Mike Joyce on Andy Rourke

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  • @kentvonseverin1257
    @kentvonseverin1257 Жыл бұрын

    It is touching that so many people have recognised Andy Rourke's passing. Thank you for posting this.

  • @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia

    @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew him personally through an acquaintance. grew up with their music....sigh

  • @nightwing9637

    @nightwing9637

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved Andy so kind and so very talented

  • @kentvonseverin1257

    @kentvonseverin1257

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia I met him in 1986 (twice) while invading the stage...

  • @XY-xn4op

    @XY-xn4op

    Ай бұрын

    Andy was such a nice person, funny, clever - a great person to know and love. His loss still hurts.

  • @robiniapseudoacacia
    @robiniapseudoacacia Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful tribute from one man to another. He clearly loved Andy very deeply. Together they made a fantastic rhythm section.

  • @poyerdude

    @poyerdude

    Жыл бұрын

    Just an absolutely amazing rhythm section. The best of the decade no doubt.

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    Жыл бұрын

    *BEST rhythm section from a BRILLIANT group*

  • @frankmachin5438

    @frankmachin5438

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen!

  • @vaseofflowers4619

    @vaseofflowers4619

    Жыл бұрын

    I struggled with opioid addiction from sixteen to thirty-seven and was saddened to hear Andy got cancer after managing to extricate himself from the vice-like grip of drugs. That story of Moz kicking him out of the band for drug use always rankled with me. Why? It's a bloody rock band, Steven, for pity's sake.

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    Жыл бұрын

    @vaseofflowers4619 As brilliant a writer as he is, he still suffers from a serious blindness to see his own dictatorial behaviour. Who admonishes a venue simply for having MEAT cooked nearby ... it staggers the mind. In point of fact, The Smiths only have ONE song that annoys me - and that's Meat Is Murder. It's death FOR A REASON and it's to fill the belly (of the beast ... according to ole Mozza, we'll assume)

  • @The.Last.Guitar.Hero.
    @The.Last.Guitar.Hero. Жыл бұрын

    Mike Joyce always comes across as a really down to earth fella

  • @morenteria2988
    @morenteria2988 Жыл бұрын

    I had the awesome privilege of having dinner with both Andy and Mike at the Beverly Hills Hard Rock Cafe. I won a raffle during the Smiths convention in Pasadena CA in the mid late 90s. These blokes were sterling, absolutely sterling. I will never forget that night. I have pictures and I occasionally view them. Thanks Andy for your music. Long live The Smiths!

  • @jrex3575

    @jrex3575

    Жыл бұрын

    hey mo! by chance did you attend HPHS, Class of 87?

  • @morenteria2988

    @morenteria2988

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jrex3575 No I didn't. Where abouts is that at?

  • @morenteria2988

    @morenteria2988

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jrex3575 I was 14 in 87

  • @davidboyce8683

    @davidboyce8683

    Жыл бұрын

    You're one lucky human being Mo .

  • @michaelreddington658
    @michaelreddington658 Жыл бұрын

    You can see the pain in Mike there. They must’ve been so close. One of the all time great rhythm sections for me. Mike is a top bloke and RIP Andy. What a legacy you left behind

  • @mufc99ok

    @mufc99ok

    3 ай бұрын

    @AemondBlackKiller ye alot of money ,I think morrisey thought they were just back up musicians but they were part of the band

  • @jupiter-8405
    @jupiter-8405 Жыл бұрын

    All positive comments anout Andy Rouke from Mike Joyce, so good to hear.

  • @MeanManu
    @MeanManu Жыл бұрын

    Rouke had always and always be my favourite bass player, RIP Andy

  • @NeonRadarMusic
    @NeonRadarMusic Жыл бұрын

    Such an underrated bassist. He's right up there with McCartney when it comes to melodic basslines.

  • @erwartungstk

    @erwartungstk

    Жыл бұрын

    mccartney, jamerson and rourke... perhaps not in that order, but yeah, melody.

  • @timcomley5948

    @timcomley5948

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    Жыл бұрын

    Andy Rourke was an amazing player who absolutely SHAMES McCartney

  • @steffanhoffmann

    @steffanhoffmann

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sexobscura I 2nd that and I'm fed up of this macca kissass shite

  • @viewingonly9795

    @viewingonly9795

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sexobscura Andy was great but don’t be ridiculous

  • @Morbidtrail
    @Morbidtrail Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful words from Mike, Andy will live forever in our hearts and ears

  • @65belton
    @65belton Жыл бұрын

    3:02 a very emotional Joyce x

  • @Wearenotreallyhere
    @Wearenotreallyhere Жыл бұрын

    Andy’s bass was such a big part of their songs and the Smiths sounded like nobody else around. They defined the 80s, amazing contribution not just to music but our lives! RIP

  • @sexobscura

    @sexobscura

    Жыл бұрын

    *Very big statement about 'defining' the 80s. They certainly defined a certain style of playing and writing, but so many other distinctive forms were created and elaborated on. I regard the wonderfully 'erratic' and intelligent Sonic Youth as harbinger/creates of an inimitable, furious and captivating sound as well. NIN cannot be overlooked, also (nor WHAM)*

  • @CliffMcAulay
    @CliffMcAulay Жыл бұрын

    The best rhythm section of the eighties..And that bar was high! Thank you for posting this treasure.

  • @joanofarc708

    @joanofarc708

    Жыл бұрын

    A great original band

  • @MarlboroughBlenheim1

    @MarlboroughBlenheim1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but dire straits and e street band there too

  • @marknewbold2583

    @marknewbold2583

    Жыл бұрын

    No

  • @marknewbold2583

    @marknewbold2583

    Жыл бұрын

    Not even the best in Greater Manchester

  • @MarlboroughBlenheim1

    @MarlboroughBlenheim1

    Жыл бұрын

    You’ve never heard of the Stone Roses, obviously. You’d like them.

  • @maljo4604
    @maljo4604 Жыл бұрын

    wow, beautiful words from Mike about Andy. To be so skilled at an instrument that you can't recognise how good of a player you are speaks volumes.

  • @peterread9657
    @peterread9657 Жыл бұрын

    My favourite band hands down. since 1983. RIP Andy.

  • @plasteredbastard
    @plasteredbastard Жыл бұрын

    mike and andy were certainly not interchangeable components to this band. they gave the sound it's immediacy.

  • @simonwj6404
    @simonwj6404 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful words, Mike. Your humble appreciation of him was so lovely.

  • @PJP73
    @PJP73 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love Mike and Andy. Just all 4 of them were fabulous.

  • @chaz021275
    @chaz021275 Жыл бұрын

    Such great tributes from Mike here, and from Johnny and Morrissey. For a band that seemed to have a lot of inner friction, they all really loved Andy. RIP 🙏

  • @maxday4991
    @maxday4991 Жыл бұрын

    Andy was the reason I bought a bass guitar, to this day his are still my favourite riffs to play. A truly original bassist.

  • @jackdempsey9644
    @jackdempsey96447 ай бұрын

    The even more amazing thing about Andy is that he did EVERY one of those Smiths basslines by the time he was 23.

  • @v-town1980
    @v-town1980 Жыл бұрын

    Mike is such a sweet guy. At 03:30....that chin rub..he was fighting those emotions. ❤

  • @MickDude
    @MickDude Жыл бұрын

    Bless you Mike. ❤️ RIP Andy. ❤️

  • @angelariley.9963
    @angelariley.9963 Жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful tribute by Mike.

  • @RJasonKlein
    @RJasonKlein Жыл бұрын

    What a lovely and sincere interview - Andy, you will be sorely missed, and Mike what a joy you brought to me in my youth in 1984. Long live The Smiths!

  • @shaycostello888
    @shaycostello888 Жыл бұрын

    Mike and Andy - Just like Morrissey and Marr in their own way. Each a Smith. So sad. What a canon ❤ Self effacing effortless irish english dudes

  • @vibes..585
    @vibes..585 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful.. Nice one Mike... God bless you Andy... Wonderful musician.. Unique player.. ❤

  • @jimscarlet
    @jimscarlet Жыл бұрын

    Andy was the bassist we all wanted to be, but knew it was impossible, he was so gifted, his basslines were almost untouchable. A beautiful tribute from Mike, he'll be very sadly missed.

  • @jimscarlet

    @jimscarlet

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SteveTalisman in my opinion, of course

  • @holdencaulfield4230

    @holdencaulfield4230

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@SteveTalisman Bullshit!! Andy composed his own bass parts, Marr also says so in his biography. He was an exceptional musician!

  • @dranderson6071
    @dranderson6071 Жыл бұрын

    I hope Mike knows how unbelievably important he is to millions of Smiths fans. You were the backbone Mike. I’m in my mid fifties heterosexual and if I met you I’d hug you til you’d had enough. You’re up there with the buggies Mike. Maybe even at the top. Cheers from Toronto, Mike

  • @descendingforth
    @descendingforth Жыл бұрын

    Rest in paradise Andy your legendary basslines will live on forever!

  • @albertounited
    @albertounited Жыл бұрын

    God bless you Andy. Forever and ever in our hearts.❤️ Btw....Mike is a great guy. For the god sake! This is so painful 💔

  • @petelove9731
    @petelove9731 Жыл бұрын

    The Reading Hexagon on the Meat is Murder tour is where I first come into contact with Andy and Mike as naive 16 year old. It wasn’t much, just shook hands with them both and they acknowledged me as a fan standing round the back door of the venue. The other two…….. Salt of the earth Mike and Andy. True friendship between them both.

  • @chrissmith256
    @chrissmith256 Жыл бұрын

    You are such a kind man, Mike. I'm sure Andy thought as much about you, too. The Smiths would never have been as great without you both.

  • @ideabarn
    @ideabarn Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic upload thanks

  • @jasonmendelli6023
    @jasonmendelli6023 Жыл бұрын

    Some iconic baselines. Barbarianism begins at home and well I wonder my faves. Thank you Mr Rourke ❤

  • @e-rokekenedi7834
    @e-rokekenedi7834 Жыл бұрын

    This warms my heart. Great to hear them having a catch-up, laughing and reminiscing. R.I.P, Andy.

  • @erik8999
    @erik8999 Жыл бұрын

    Great interview.

  • @deletebilderberg
    @deletebilderberg Жыл бұрын

    When I listen to Andy Rourke I can hear John Entwistle, Bootsy Collins. Three extraordinary talents. Magicians for sure.

  • @markcurran2865
    @markcurran2865 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely heartfelt tribute.

  • @friendlier
    @friendlier Жыл бұрын

    Andy and Mike are one of the great rhythm sections in the olden era of rock. They are so good on the Smiths records that you might not even notice it.

  • @hisalexness8478
    @hisalexness8478 Жыл бұрын

    That is so beautiful, and Mike Joyce is one hell of a drummer and human being as well. What a pity the Smiths ended after only a short time. I think that the combination of the 4 of them together was just magic!

  • @spirwes64
    @spirwes64 Жыл бұрын

    03:28 He's so touched. And that's what touched me!

  • @simonjohnson6581
    @simonjohnson6581 Жыл бұрын

    Still can't quite believe that he's dead....he was only young and it just isn't fair.....all of the sick evil people in the world and it had to be Andy rourke.......just not fucking right is it? Rest in peace mate......love eternal

  • @marknewbold2583

    @marknewbold2583

    Жыл бұрын

    He was sick for a while on smack

  • @johnregan6078
    @johnregan6078 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on mike ❤

  • @peterlorrequartet6559
    @peterlorrequartet6559 Жыл бұрын

    Bass and drum....strong connection within any band. Andy was one of a kind.....it makes me happy to hear all the accolades for this brilliant yet down to earth musician.

  • @MrStucks
    @MrStucks Жыл бұрын

    Well said Mike. X

  • @SteveGad
    @SteveGad29 күн бұрын

    It's hard to get your head around the fact that we were just young kids back then, and LOOKED like young kids too. We're all the old folks now, with our ailments and grey hair and it still feels to me, like it probably has to a hundred generations before - just strange, what time does to us. My point is just that it's hard and it's sad, to have to say goodbye to anyone we held in esteem. Andy was unique in both style and approach to playing, and very seldom took the path of least resistance, with his playing. The Smiths would not have been as good without Andy and Mike building the strong foundations, the songs sat atop. RIP Andy and Thanks Mike for being a good friend until the very end.

  • @rabit818
    @rabit818 Жыл бұрын

    Mike Joyce is the kind of friend to have. He was getting a tad teary talking about Andy.

  • @maximillionzen
    @maximillionzen Жыл бұрын

    Had the pleasure of meeting him. If the rest of the ppl in this mad world had half the sense of humor he had the world would be a much better place. Such an underrated bassist....

  • @michaeldeluca6331

    @michaeldeluca6331

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated by who?

  • @budrafael2970
    @budrafael2970 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, an incredible rhythm section, that's what I heard first discovering the band in the 80. Vocals, guitar AND a perfect rhythm section.

  • @bobdobalina838
    @bobdobalina838 Жыл бұрын

    You could tell how much he cared for this man by the way he breaks up in the last two segments. Rest in peace Andy and thank you for the good times and great music.

  • @OhanaFilms
    @OhanaFilms Жыл бұрын

    One of the all time great rhythm sections. Amazing.

  • @johnr2297
    @johnr2297 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting this. May God bless his friends and family ❤

  • @davidboyce8683
    @davidboyce8683 Жыл бұрын

    Mike and Andy , what a quality rhythm section that is .Rest in Peace Andy .

  • @vonhenry7087
    @vonhenry7087 Жыл бұрын

    I always knew I loved Andy's playing, knew he was one of my favorites. Just before Andy's passing I was playing with some friends and the guy doing sound said, you play great, but maybe a bit too much movement for this song. It was cool, but it got me to thinking, why do I want to move all over. That's when it hit me that Andy was not only one of my favs, but almost certainly the most influential on my style...though I never really realized. About 3 days later I read the news. RIP Andy - and thank you so much! 🙏💙🎸

  • @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia
    @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia Жыл бұрын

    RIP ANDY

  • @markkennedy9767
    @markkennedy9767 Жыл бұрын

    3:28 seemed to be almost tearful here. Nice tribute.

  • @johnbarry1965
    @johnbarry1965 Жыл бұрын

    Good friend lost ❤

  • @georgebrice8329
    @georgebrice8329 Жыл бұрын

    He was definelity underrated as a bassist very slept on RIP Andy Rourke 🙏

  • @msbadkittie
    @msbadkittie Жыл бұрын

    oh this made me tear up 😢 i have loved The Smiths since i first heard them in 1984. each member was so, so talented. those songs never get old for me. just as amazing to listen to today as they were almost 40 years ago. RIP Andy ❤

  • @EndoftheTownProductions
    @EndoftheTownProductions7 ай бұрын

    Andy Rourke's bass lines made the Smiths' songs truly unique.

  • @stephenroche5107
    @stephenroche5107 Жыл бұрын

    They made a print in my mind as meaningful things do.

  • @scourneene
    @scourneene Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know of his passing! Wow he's such a legend. I have been trying to learn to play "Barbarism starts at Home" and gave me such respect for Andy coming up with such a groove. Thank you Andy, sorry to hear of the passing. The music lives on!

  • @gsgacc
    @gsgacc Жыл бұрын

    If I had known how iconic the Salford Lads photo was going to be, I would have worn looser pant 😂 -Andy Rourke. Morrissey praised his humor Thanks!

  • @Pedro_Henrique-v3z
    @Pedro_Henrique-v3z Жыл бұрын

    😢 tão bonito e ao mesmo tempo triste essa homenagem 😊

  • @dard4642
    @dard4642 Жыл бұрын

    Solid words, Mike. I play bass and Andy was my main influence. I play Fender because he did and, when I learned that he played a Yamaha for his more lively parts, I bought a Yamaha. The Smiths are one of those very rare bands that finds a new following every generation and their fans are forever fans. I have never heard anyone say "I can't believe I used to be into The Smiths."

  • @TheMindOf_Reason
    @TheMindOf_Reason7 ай бұрын

    So much respect to Mike for doing this. RIP Andy. God I still miss you.

  • @gunnyhartman2
    @gunnyhartman2 Жыл бұрын

    Great words from Mike.❤

  • @Zepster77
    @Zepster77 Жыл бұрын

    Wow I never knew Mike Joyce was such an articulate, wonderful guy… 🌅❤️‍🔥🌠

  • @festersuncle6298
    @festersuncle62984 ай бұрын

    I'm still a teenager from the 80's!!! I remember the 1st time I was able to separate the back beat in The Smiths songs.....wow, rewind the tape!!!

  • @bizfix11
    @bizfix11 Жыл бұрын

    My namesake sounds like a really humble guy, especially when talking about Andy. Love this interview

  • @db4845
    @db484511 ай бұрын

    What a fantastic tribute - the legacy of the music speaks for itself but Mikes words shows the calibre of the man and the friend. RIP Andy and thank you.

  • @garrydelosreyes5646
    @garrydelosreyes5646 Жыл бұрын

    Underated bass player. Andy Rourke is the reason why I am playing the bass guitar. Rip Andy. Your bass riffs will live on forever.

  • @michaeldeluca6331

    @michaeldeluca6331

    Жыл бұрын

    Not underrated at all. Always been considered a fantastic player.

  • @SteveTalisman

    @SteveTalisman

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated by who? He's always been rated - possibly overrated if anything. This comment appears in every single Andy Rourke video and it beats the hell out of me why people keep saying that.

  • @michaeldeluca6331

    @michaeldeluca6331

    Жыл бұрын

    @Talismanpendants I've noticed "underrated" appears in many music videos on KZread, even on Beatles videos. I suppose the person saying it is trying to imply some insight or refined taste that goes against the grain.

  • @BrickwallStudios0
    @BrickwallStudios0 Жыл бұрын

    I remember first time hearing Smiths and hearing the jangly 80s guitar, and extremely weird but extremely tight bass, and that's what hooked me more and more. What an amazing bass player, I mean "Well I wonder", the bass makes the mood for the entire track.

  • @danlewis-leaver8247
    @danlewis-leaver824711 ай бұрын

    Mike, you are such a great person and wonderful drummer. There will never be another Smiths and never be another Andy. Bless you, sir x

  • @stevebell9645
    @stevebell9645 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for posting this Tysongreer 2 cant explain what this means to me didnt see this on TV. The Smiths were and will always be the Greatest Band ever, and what a tribute from Mike .

  • @markofsaltburn
    @markofsaltburn Жыл бұрын

    Mike grew into The Smiths, and his drumming improved considerably, very quickly, during 1983/84 (the recordings of The Smiths’ three Hacienda gigs from 1983 show that rapid improvement). When Andy arrived, however, he was pretty much the finished article from day one, and he gave the group a swing most other indie groups from the time just didn’t have.

  • @maryoleary5044
    @maryoleary5044 Жыл бұрын

    Thank-you for this! So we Smiths fans were not wrong for loving you and your musical ability and decent attitude after all! 😉💞

  • @fahrgast237
    @fahrgast237 Жыл бұрын

    59. Not old. Rest in Peace and thank you. Random memories of driving around San Diego in my '67 bug listening to "Barbarism begins at home" and all the other songs of the Smiths.

  • @pete1909
    @pete190911 ай бұрын

    Mike and Andy earned and deserve every penny of their 25 percent.

  • @XY-xn4op

    @XY-xn4op

    Ай бұрын

    Mike and Andy never got 25%. Morrissey refused to pay Mike or Andy what they were owed for decades even for the many years that Morrissey knew Andy had cancer and required costly life prolonging medical treatments in America, presumably without health insurance. Andy wasn’t a party to the final court judgement giving Mike 25% royalties, he had previously made an agreement for a one time sum due to financial difficulties. But even then he wasn’t paid by Morrissey the remainder of royalties he was owed.

  • @kickstartonly2527
    @kickstartonly25277 ай бұрын

    The magic that Andy and Mike created together has a massive massive part on why the Smiths are so great, one of the greatest rhythm sections of all time!

  • @britlips
    @britlips Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant bassist, always great tone, inspired me. The Smiths will never die.

  • @LloydBraun11
    @LloydBraun11 Жыл бұрын

    Andy Rourke was just as irreplaceable in The Smiths as the other members were, and it's obvious when you listen to Barbarism begins at home, The draize train and many more songs, that he was a better bassplayer than his famous rolemodels, with a delicious funkiness to it that originated from no one but himself. I was very sad to learn he has passed away, much too soon. This is so unfair.

  • @johndoe-ep7qk
    @johndoe-ep7qk Жыл бұрын

    I've always said that for decades about "the rhythm section" of The Smiths, absolutely solid and new at the same time. Rourke and Joyce don't get enough credit, and the Smiths are truly one of the best bands ever. No on sounded like them in the day and no one still to this day. It's a bummer that Rourke passed so young, but his music with The Smiths will be influential for generations, as it already has been

  • @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia
    @IhaytFukkingsocialmedia Жыл бұрын

    I swear I feel like the Smiths were the Vermeer of British pop music....raising the mundane and quotidian and very, very human to the level of the divine.

  • @marknewbold2583

    @marknewbold2583

    Жыл бұрын

    No, they were like a bad children's book illustrator. By adulthood you should have left their maudlin triteness behind

  • @synthmalicious7541
    @synthmalicious7541 Жыл бұрын

    “So proud he was my mate” beautiful

  • @andrewmoran357
    @andrewmoran357 Жыл бұрын

    what a great tribute from another great musician

  • @erwartungstk
    @erwartungstk Жыл бұрын

    thanks for posting this...

  • @chelseaacidcasual2825
    @chelseaacidcasual2825 Жыл бұрын

    Bloody great interview on a great bass player in a great band a lovely bloke. Love The Smiths.

  • @Get_Playing_Guitar_in_90_days
    @Get_Playing_Guitar_in_90_days Жыл бұрын

    When I was in the early days of learning guitar, I had to switch to bass. There was no internet then so I would put on a tape and but by bit learn Andys bass lines. I remember how they seemed so random.. it was tough getting them down.. but it definitely helped build my skills with lead on guitar. Now teaching 20+ years and this is a big part of why.. excellent bass player.. the Smiths were lucky to have him.

  • @AjarnDeeTeesut
    @AjarnDeeTeesut Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful tribute from a beautiful man.

  • @ingy2468
    @ingy2468 Жыл бұрын

    From the heart from Mike and it feels like it hasn't sunk in properly with him. These people created and played songs that saved our lives back in the 80s.

  • @SteveTalisman

    @SteveTalisman

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. 100% agree. The music on the radio back then was terrible and you're right, The Smiths were there for those of us who disliked all that manufactured synth pop. Radio One, Steve Wright in particular, despised The Smiths - hence Hang the DJ

  • @rely9
    @rely9 Жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite all time rhythm sections along with Redding and Mitchell, Selway and Greenwood, Mani and Remi, Moon and Entwhistle, Headon and Simonon, and James and Rowntree.

  • @Jac29291
    @Jac29291 Жыл бұрын

    Such a lovely tribute from Mike ❤

  • @stuartcarswell2815
    @stuartcarswell2815 Жыл бұрын

    Wow love these words by Mike Joyce here 😢..RIP Andy xx

  • @paulcampbell8141
    @paulcampbell8141 Жыл бұрын

    two mates thanks mike joyce

  • @staggerlee6794
    @staggerlee6794 Жыл бұрын

    The bass line on 'Barbarism Begins At Home' is so good Rourke should have got a writing credit for it. Joyce and Rourke were probably the greatest rhythm section of indie rock, and arguably should be spoken of with the reverence as Sly & Robbie. They were that f*cking good.

  • @marknewbold2583

    @marknewbold2583

    Жыл бұрын

    The Fall's rhythm sections were always the best

  • @XY-xn4op

    @XY-xn4op

    Ай бұрын

    Which Fall rhythm section though? There were so many.

  • @XY-xn4op

    @XY-xn4op

    Ай бұрын

    People seem to be defining “composer” as the one who wrote the music first. Clearly Andy wrote music for the songs, but he wrote it second after the guitar parts, so people wrongly conclude that doesn’t count as writing the song. With some songs like Barbarism, the guitar could not possibly have come first. Clearly Andy wrote the bass part first. The fact that he didn’t get song writing credits is due to human power / politics / control in the band. Morrissey and Marr formed the band and Andy joined a little later, and for Johnny, ever since then, the Smiths and their music were always his band despite the actual musical contributions and role.

  • @staggerlee6794

    @staggerlee6794

    Ай бұрын

    @@XY-xn4op I've been thinking about this a bit more and although I think what you say is sometimes true, I do think that any great guitarist is more than capable of writing the bass parts. For example David Gilmour playing bass on Pink Floyds 'Sheep (3 different ones)' as Waters couldn't quite get it right himself. But I totally agree with you about power / politics / control.

  • @joebell3220
    @joebell3220 Жыл бұрын

    Love You Andy Rourke+RIP BASS PLAYER CHAMPION+ ...i'm going to listen to you in Girl Afriad'''

  • @thezebrafromheaven7568
    @thezebrafromheaven7568 Жыл бұрын

    RIP to one of the best bass players ever.

  • @rhodaborrecks
    @rhodaborrecks Жыл бұрын

    What a lovely tribute this is.

  • @CruceEntertainment
    @CruceEntertainment Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful words from Mike