Migration Backlash in the U.S.

Examining the issue of migration backlash in the U.S. Many people are migrating to other parts of the U.S. and often feel unwelcome. In many parts of the U.S. there is backlash against people from other parts of the country moving there. In this video I examine specific high growth and low growth cities and states and the "welcome wagon" that they receive.

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  • @benbeck345
    @benbeck3453 жыл бұрын

    I moved to a small town in southern Idaho in the 4th grade. Graduated high school there. I was still considered a "new kid". They definitely don't like change. Disco died there in about '92.

  • @kerryjlynch1

    @kerryjlynch1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something similar happened to me in rural Washington. Most of the other kids were cousins.

  • @Eric__J

    @Eric__J

    3 жыл бұрын

    Utah is like this as well, even in Salt Lake City. You could live there most of your life and still be reminded that you don’t belong there.

  • @BroMark1611

    @BroMark1611

    3 жыл бұрын

    I moved from the northeast to the deep south and after having been there 20 years they were still calling me a damn yankee...lol

  • @snoopy1837

    @snoopy1837

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kerryjlynch1 What town in Washington?

  • @franciscodanconia45

    @franciscodanconia45

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vote 4 Pedro

  • @benhenson3910
    @benhenson39103 жыл бұрын

    I recently went fly fishing in McDowell county West Virginia which is one the poorest, most impoverished places in the US. Talk About migration, there was over 100k people living there in 1950 and today there is about 15k people there. Overall, I couldn’t believe how friendly and welcoming they were there. It’s hard to know what to expect going to a place with such intense poverty and drug use but my preconceptions were totally wrong.

  • @uprebel5150

    @uprebel5150

    3 жыл бұрын

    Went white water rafting in WV and the people there were awesome. This was in 2015 and I actually saw a street named “Trump” near the New River.

  • @RandymanB
    @RandymanB3 жыл бұрын

    I moved from California to Wisconsin many years ago and quickly found that if you eat Brats, drink beer and cheer for the Packers you're welcomed like family!

  • @keturahspencer1211

    @keturahspencer1211

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was in Wisconsin for a while. They're definitely nicer than some of the other rural areas I've been.

  • @ronnydroll

    @ronnydroll

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been living in WI for five years now from vegas. Love this place!

  • @NomadicNorthwoods

    @NomadicNorthwoods

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lifelong wisconsinite here .....yeah we're cool but Minnesota sucks so just remember that👍

  • @bendorfman5581

    @bendorfman5581

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just moved to Wisconsin nicest people ever I’m amazed every day

  • @alexwaters4694

    @alexwaters4694

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lifelong Wisconsinite here, I love hearing people saying these kind of things! As long as you're friendly to people here, we will be super friendly back!

  • @ett9812
    @ett98122 жыл бұрын

    I live in Philly, and I think you're 100% right that people here are rude but not mean. It's the only place I've ever had a driver scream an apology at me.

  • @charlieriebe909
    @charlieriebe9093 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Montana, and I even get mean looks when I'm driving through Idaho.

  • @cutthroat399

    @cutthroat399

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love Montana, I thought they were very nice.

  • @TheCriminalViolin

    @TheCriminalViolin

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess Oregonians are immune there haha. We must be the only state that does not get the sour treatment in Idaho. We seem to just click.

  • @TheCriminalViolin

    @TheCriminalViolin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Willie Cooke No way you'd know unless of course, they happily announce it, like many do, or wear their branded gear, or, naturally, decide to start constant protests outside the capital in Boise for whatever they select to be perturbed about in that moment. lol.

  • @georgeharleydavidsonrider156

    @georgeharleydavidsonrider156

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have friends in Idaho and they’re terrified of the California liberals invading their state and changing the demographics of the state of Idaho. They say liberals are mean and nasty people . There is not much crime in Idaho and the native people from Idaho want to keep it that way. That is their main concerns in the state of Idaho.

  • @jlc5271

    @jlc5271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@georgeharleydavidsonrider156 yes cos they dont know what they're talking about, and like to keep it that way

  • @seanburke3534
    @seanburke35343 жыл бұрын

    As a Boise native, even I feel unwelcome in other parts of Idaho.

  • @littlecsommercorn

    @littlecsommercorn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, we don't like A1 plates.

  • @tara9828

    @tara9828

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unless you're a Mason and suddenly you know everyone at every fishing hole

  • @0leander410

    @0leander410

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drove from Boise to Challis for the first time, went to a suuuper divey local bar, and my wife and I were immediately chatted up by an old guy dressed like Daniel Boone and Yosemite Sam had a son. Our dog plays unleashed with 2 other dogs in the bar, then we go to pay, and our bill had already been taken care of by a guy we hadn’t even talked to. Last week, I was let go from being very guilty of speeding outside of again Twin Falls, without even a warning. And my wife’s Nicaraguan during all this, so I really can’t square my experiences with everyone else’s.

  • @qwe123303

    @qwe123303

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like he said, it's very much a rural western state thing. Same is true of Oregon. Might be the most stark state. You can be in one of the most socially progressive cities in the country in Eugene, OR, but go 15 miles outside the city and it's like the backwoods of Alabama where they hate Eugenians more than out-of-staters.

  • @Jerubarbaruah

    @Jerubarbaruah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@qwe123303 Sadly, a lot of those communities literally burned off the map. Ironically it was the cities of Eugene & Springfield that took them in. Unfortunately, a lot of those folk couldn't really afford to rebuild and moved out of state. They may have been a tad curmudgeonly but they were decent folk overall and deserved better.

  • @jakeharding9165
    @jakeharding91653 жыл бұрын

    I am a Utah native. I love this video! Well said! Although I wouldn't consider Utah as rude. I would definitely consider it us as unwelcoming and it makes me sad. 80% of our growth is from kids raised in Utah wanting to stay near home, but Californians are being blamed for our growth. This is one of the many factors feeding the fire of our housing crisis. Many of my friends are forced to choose between a less than desirable living situation or moving out of state. Also, it's not just you. Rural Utahns consider Urban Utahns outsiders just as much as out of staters. They're just special.

  • @DavidSaundersPosts

    @DavidSaundersPosts

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jake: what do Utahns think about the young people that hang out at rafting, climbing, and mountain bike destinations for weeks and months? Apparently Moab has been crowded this year with young people escaping the lockdowns.

  • @josephhoward4697

    @josephhoward4697

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hate to jump in on a year old comment, but I thought I’d throw in that California is like this too. We small-town folk absolutely hate what the Bay Area folk have done to our towns. We feel like strangers in our own homes. At the end of the day, there are two kinds of people: 1) those who hate population growth 2) those who love population growth because they’ve never lived in a boomtown.

  • @johnnitis228

    @johnnitis228

    Жыл бұрын

    Live in Bay Area for my entire 60 years. Lots of people have been coming to Cal from gold rush on. They found their niche in our state and added to it in whatever way they could. I personally never saw people get berated due to where they were from. Perhaps a lot of folks don't consider that those who want to leave Cal. don't want to bring Cal. to their state. They want to leave it behind. My retirement search has been narrowed to Washington, South Dakota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Maine. I will make a choice and relocate for multiple reasons, enjoying my choice for the improvements it contributes to my lot in life. Don't worry: 40 million of my fellow residents won't all be following.

  • @BigBBigTrees

    @BigBBigTrees

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude I grew up in Salt Lake City (Rose Park baby, yeah stay away) but in reality all the kids from Cali got checked or immediately had to fight when they switched schools to Bryant or West. The only kid I know who moved in from another state, who wasn’t tortured is this Poly girl Mimi from Miami. Utah is hostile to Californians but in reality we were one of the first states to see that mass migration.

  • @BigBBigTrees

    @BigBBigTrees

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh you’re from small town Utah? Yeah you guys definitely don’t want people moving where you live.

  • @Yo_Moms_Boyfriend
    @Yo_Moms_Boyfriend3 жыл бұрын

    This is a great channel lol I thought i’d never find a channel that actually talked about geography like I do, and I finally did! Love from Buffalo, NY

  • @carsonk6221
    @carsonk62213 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been living in Idaho for about a year. They are not welcoming here, at all.

  • @rscii497

    @rscii497

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've heard that from other people as well. Did you move to the Boise area, or to some other part of the state?

  • @primavera5297

    @primavera5297

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've lived in the Boise area for about 6 months now, and I haven't experienced any real hostility in my daily life (although it is quarantine, so I don't interact with that many people). However I will say that when I go online and look at videos related to living in Idaho/Boise there are usually TONS of comments from native Idahoans that are really hostile towards people moving in... especially Californians or anyone who brings "liberal values".

  • @bainbridge-he6xp

    @bainbridge-he6xp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@primavera5297 as well they should. People destroy their own states with liberal politics and then leave and try to do it all over again

  • @coda623

    @coda623

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bainbridge-he6xp That is not true at all. If you watch the whole video you'll notice that the are four states in the country losing population, Illinois, Connecticut, West Virginia, and Mississippi. Two liberal states and two conservative states. Politics is not what ruins states and causes people to leave for other places.

  • @bainbridge-he6xp

    @bainbridge-he6xp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coda623 You have no idea what you are talking about. I live in Maryland. We have cities where they ruined their towns and cities with their shit politics then when their cities and towns turn to shit, they come north and west in our state and try to fuck everything up again there too. I have lived through it. It exists

  • @geoffreydonaldson2984
    @geoffreydonaldson29842 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had the same experience in Alberta where Canadians have migrated to in numbers since the mid-70s. In 77, I left British Columbia during a recession in the logging industry and went to Edmonton looking for work. Plenty of that-much more than there were Albertans to fill. And it wasn’t pretty. There was a severe housing shortage and migrants tended to group up into rentals intended for a quarter the people, often with others from their home province, mine being Ontario. Maritmers and Newfoundlanders tended to mix in with anybody because, as a rule, they are very friendly people who make good, loyal friends. When my travelling partner and I got off the train from Vancouver, the conductor wished us luck in a weird way, then the station master told us with a palpable tone of disapproval that 200 people were coming to Edmonton every day, half from the East, half from BC. It was easy to find work, but co-workers were invariably unfriendly. And never cheer for the Montreal Canadiens (most itinerant Canadians adopt the Habs as their hockey team) while in a bar. My foreman used to say, “boy! You just use your weekends to get your black eyes re-shined up, don’t you!” Speaking of which, this was when Quebec separatism was gathering momentum, and how Québécois got treated in Alberta was absolutely shocking; if two of them spoke french quietly at their own table in a restaurant or a bar, they’d either get beat up (women included!) or kicked out-and itinerant Québécois were actually the most federalist (anti-separatist ) of all Québécois-I know: I lived in Quebec and Montreal for a few years. But of course Albertans are as rare as hen’s teeth in La Belle Provence. Most Canadians regard Alberta as the most American province-kinda like Texas-North-very conservative and red-neck. I live on the West Coast, have since the Vietnam war sent thousands of dodgers and deserters up to B.C. I never knew anybody from BC for the first year I lived here there were so many immigrants and migrants. Back then the Gulf Islands became hippie enclaves (and remain so to some extent), so the more recent phenomenon of Albertans, mostly retired and wealthy from the petroleum boom (when Alberta still had real oil, now it has mainly bitumen and natural gas to smelt it out of sand), migrating to the Okanagan, a traditionally conservative region, and the east coast of Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands where land is astronomically higher than even 10 years ago, let alone 45 when the hippies came, one would expect a culture clash; but we West Coasters are eclectic in origin and naturally friendly (remember ‘free love’, ‘sex, drugs & rock-n-roll?’) so, while these retired Albertans did make an initial impact politically by voting for right wing parties (and helping elect both provincial and federal right-wing governments)-contrary to the socialist parties we normally elect out here, I must admit they’ve come around-I guess when they realized it’s more fun to smell skunks than hunt them-even though we don’t have skunks on the Islands...within a couple years they realize it’s more fun to join ‘em than fight ‘em (remember Peace and Love? Still happening, man!). Pretty soon the Stetsons turn into funny little ponytails. And they sure smell like CBD oil... But I’ve moved to Alberta a number of times to work, I love the place and most of its people (I was raised in cattle country back East), and, while it was pretty red-necky in the late 70s, by the early 80s, most of the cowboys sported long hair and smoked dope-but were still as redneck as ever, and would never admit the cultural contribution we migrants made to their otherwise dull province. Alberta’s really changing now. When I was a young hitchhiker in the 70s, I’d take a taxi through Calgary (geographically the biggest city in the country, the city limits so far out into the prairie you couldn’t even see the city) rather than risk hitching through it: police had a super-redneck reputation. But it’s quite cosmopolitan now-which makes rural rednecks mad and louder than ever before because there are relatively fewer of them. (they emulate tRumpublicans about climate change and Covid.) So Alberta is probably still relatively unfriendly, just not near what it was. It’s ironic, I guess, that the province Albertans hate the most, Quebec, is also fairly unfriendly-at least outside the cities.. But, then again, my French is so bad that rural folks single me out pretty quick. Like Québécois in Alberta, I just keep my mouth shut in Quebec. Saskatchewan right next door is pretty racist against indigenous citizens and not that warm to strangers. Manitoba’s great, Ontario too (with the possible exception of southwestern Ontario: very conservative farming region studded with very cosmopolitan , immigrant heavy cities). Again, Atlantic Canadians , like Canadians on the Pacific Coast, are very friendly . The Yukon Territory is renown for friendliness, bur watch out for Yellowknife in the Northwest Territory-they have a serious alcohol problem there. Like most Canadians, I know just about squat about Nunavut-but my dad was there, way back, and he said the Inuvialuktun people are very friendly-that was 55 years ago..

  • @jeffrittenour8202
    @jeffrittenour82023 жыл бұрын

    I've lived in Florida my whole life and there is a lot of resentment toward people moving down from New York and New Jersey. They get blamed for basically everything, but they're the ones bringing all the money in and contributing to the massive growth in the state. You can't have it both ways.

  • @brynnkohler4084

    @brynnkohler4084

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually we can. Plenty of non-assholes move to Florida from Midwestern and Southern states -- they just don't choose to live in the mess called Palm Beach, Dade and Broward Counties. We all know if you leave NY, NJ or CT it's because you're failures in the Big Apple, but you bring your aggressiveness, hubris and overall unpalatable attitude wherever you land.

  • @ninja_tony

    @ninja_tony

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brynnkohler4084 Uh, the majority of people in Florida that come from the north certainly didn't do so because of their failures. Generally, they own properties both in the north and in FL, that's nothing new. Kind of hard to call someone a failure when they live in two or more states at once. Also, the nicest people I've ever known have been from New England, so maybe instead of being so judgmental, you could turn the mirror back and realize maybe it's you that has an issue.

  • @stephenpowstinger733

    @stephenpowstinger733

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a native we Floridian. I don't think people are very friendly here any more, even if a few are. The word neighbor used to mean something. Now its just someone nearby doing their own thing. If you had a heart attack in the front yard, if a moving truck began loading all your stuff in your absence - would they even investigate?

  • @wildfire9280

    @wildfire9280

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brynnkohler4084 Florida Man attacked!

  • @Trump4Life2024

    @Trump4Life2024

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its those damn Quebecers

  • @foundationsmedicalinformat2420
    @foundationsmedicalinformat24203 жыл бұрын

    3 dislikes from Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah

  • @yarsivad000.5

    @yarsivad000.5

    3 жыл бұрын

    Foundations Medical Informatics Lookout! Four times the dislikes, now! Wyoming, I bet? They have some weirdo Celeb's out there.

  • @romyan5382

    @romyan5382

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ironically I keep seeing a ton of license plates from Idaho and Wyoming in socal lol, and we were the ones who were supposedly fleeing.

  • @boomerantics9586

    @boomerantics9586

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@romyan5382 California expats returned to visit relatives, etc.

  • @davidkulczyk678

    @davidkulczyk678

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hick Mormons in Idaho, Utah and Wyoming

  • @stanfordsweird4607

    @stanfordsweird4607

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidkulczyk678 Good think they're becoming a minority in Utah and Idaho

  • @tomjones1267
    @tomjones12673 жыл бұрын

    Idaho, Wyoming and Utah, the most unfriendly states. I'm from New Jersey and I have to agree. LOL! When I moved to Utah I asked someone who lived there how long it takes to get used to it here. He said I don't know, I've only been here 25 years.

  • @jimjames1920
    @jimjames19203 жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine anywhere wouldn't love to have Mr.and Mrs. Kyle as neighbors !!!!

  • @johnalden5821
    @johnalden58213 жыл бұрын

    Several decades ago, when I was a kid, my family moved to the South (South Carolina, specifically). What we found was that the people were both friendly and welcoming to a large extent -- wonderfully so in a lot of cases. But as we settled in, it became pretty clear that social networks were very set and pretty closed. The kids I started going to school with had known each other since kindergarten and could largely complete each others' sentences. Half of them were long-time family friends or even cousins. This was charming and yet. . .isolating. It took several years to feel comfortable there, and in the end I realized that, as long as I lived there, it was still going to be somebody else's home, not mine.

  • @JackDecker63

    @JackDecker63

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is how it is anywhere but boom towns. The locals have spent their whole lives together. Formed DEEP relationships with each. Know each other and everyone around them. They have a history with each other and their families. Histories that have grown over generations. Now you come along and you have none of that. But in our immediate gratification society, you think you deserve to be let in, even though you haven't paid anywhere close to the same dues. And I know how it feels feeling like an outsider for.... I am the son of a professor father and a teacher mother. My parents moved where my father could get a job as a professor. My parents didn't worry about my mom getting a job since teachers are in demand everywhere. They moved to Platteville, Wisconsin when my father was offered a professor position there. Platteville is a small sleepy college town. My father taught there for a couple years then was offered the chairmanship of the Psychology Department in another state. He took it but then the chancellor and dean of UW-Platteville both traveled to recruit him back offering him the chairmanship of UW-P's Psychology Department with a bigger budget, bigger faculty, and more control than where he was at. We moved back. Oh, and I was born during that one year away from Platteville. But growing up in Platteville (which I only have memory of as a child), there was a clear divide between us faculty children, local "town" kids, and the 4-H crowd. We were the odd ones out. We didn't feel as connected to the community. What resulted was the university people kept to themselves, "town folk" kept to themselves, and farmers kept to themselves. Not that we didn't try or succeed to reach across these barriers. My father became close friends with a local lawyer who was as close to being part of that town's "high" society as there was. But the truth was all his other friends were either faculty members (who also moved there for a professorship job) or other migrants, such as our church's minister. I myself only had one close friend who wasn't a university "brat" and he was from the farming community. And I think he was my friend because he really didn't want to be a farmer when he grew up but do something ... anything other than farming. He likely saw in me what he wanted to become. But am I angry that I wasn't completely accepted into either the town or farm crowds? No, but, then again, I knew I was never going to remain there. That my life would take me elsewhere ... and it did. Because of that, I have always had shallow roots wherever I've lived. There are pros and cons for all sides. I'm comfortable with mine.

  • @JB-zq6jx

    @JB-zq6jx

    3 жыл бұрын

    I find the Deep South to be the worst in this regard. Everything is very family-based, people do everything with all their cousins and grandparents and siblings-in-law. They're very tight-knit groups and they'll be polite to "outsiders," but it's fairly superficial. If you aren't one of them, you'll never really fit in or be a part of their group, invited to social gatherings or becoming close friends and the like, no matter how long you've been there or known them. It's definitely a bit isolating, especially if you don't have other family living in the area or don't have family there going back several generations. Same goes for things like work and professional networks. You really need to have a family member working somewhere to get a job there, you aren't going to get hired just based on your resume or skills. Sure it's a bit like that everywhere, but in my experience it's far worse in the South. Once I moved to the Midwest, this was different. It was easier to form friendships or get jobs etc without having deep family roots here. It's almost like you're seen and treated more as an individual and not a part of any particular family "clan."

  • @CoasterMan13Official

    @CoasterMan13Official

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JackDecker63 thou shall not judge.

  • @JackDecker63

    @JackDecker63

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CoasterMan13Official And you are oblivious to your hypocrisy.

  • @CoasterMan13Official

    @CoasterMan13Official

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JackDecker63 that's literally a Bible quote, boomer.

  • @sahilm2002
    @sahilm20023 жыл бұрын

    It’s basically about a fear of “the other” no matter where that other is from - the other neighborhood in your city, the other city in your state, the other state in your country or the other country in your world.

  • @tlister67
    @tlister673 жыл бұрын

    I lived in Idaho many years, Definitely not friendly. They have a pretty narrow mindset and they don’t understand people doing things differently.

  • @ottovonjizzmark9864

    @ottovonjizzmark9864

    3 жыл бұрын

    All the people from Idaho I've met have been exceedingly nice. But, maybe they're moving away for a reason.

  • @williamwilkins3084

    @williamwilkins3084

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not about doing things differently...it's more about assimilating to the culture of a place you move to. Have respect for the people who have lived there much longer than you have. One of the quickest ways you're going to become enemies with people is to move to a new place then act like you're the only person there who knows how to live in it and run it.

  • @RoCK3rAD

    @RoCK3rAD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamwilkins3084 a lot of comments from people are unsolicited, they see you then immediately dislike you because what your license plate says

  • @johnminnott7334
    @johnminnott73343 жыл бұрын

    One of the King's best videos. Well thought out and substantiated. I feel it is important to address what is actually happening.

  • @TheWinterShadow
    @TheWinterShadow Жыл бұрын

    I am going to flip it a bit. I have traveled and briefly lived in four other countries for work and school. Also lived in the Midwest, New England and South. Heck, I am even studying International Relations, so freedom of travel is in the blood. However, in some cases, I have seen a decline of a sense of community due to the influx of people into a new area. Over time people became more unfriendly, even the locals. I don't think it's a fear of the unknown but more of a fear of what newcomers are bringing. Yes, we are all Americans, but we all have different ideas of what that mean.

  • @Mike-vd2qt
    @Mike-vd2qt Жыл бұрын

    I have bicycled across the U.S. three times from west coast to east coast. Across the Midwest, Northern Tier, and the South. My observation is that people in any state can be absolutely wonderful and helpful. The same observation holds true for mean and withdrawn people, both reactions can happen in any state. I have experienced opposite reactions within the same state. What I see in recent years is an increasing polarization due to politics, which is mainly driven by social media and untruthful news outlets. Even within my own turf, with friends that I've known for 15 years, politics began to divide people into camps of hostility. People can be beautiful, people can be cruel.

  • @blueorchidimports
    @blueorchidimports3 жыл бұрын

    As a native of Utah, I reluctantly agreed with you, Kyle. But I'm trying my best to change the culture. Come back anytime.

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey13063 жыл бұрын

    I've lived in the Seattle/Tacoma area since 2006 and it was fascinating to watch the boom after 2010. Regarding zoning, much of Seattle is single home dwellings, but rezoning also means a lot of really fantastic Craftsman houses get torn down for boxy townhouses, which are not aesthetically pleasing in comparison. But the flipside is that those 2 bedroom 800 sq ft craftsman sell for 600k now. Because I've worked remotely for nearly a decade, I had the luxury of moving to Tacoma a few years ago. And then the pandemic hit and now all the people who were in small apartments and condos in Seattle no longer need to be tied to an office, and they're coming to Tacoma to buy bigger houses with yards and whatnot. So that means my house buying turned out to be the best investment of my life. (cuz I plan to flee to NM or AZ at some point). Anyhow, the tech crowd was very different from the artsier/weirdo crowd that may have been more prominent in the 90s/early 2000s and that's definitely been a cause of friction.

  • @mostbestjia627

    @mostbestjia627

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tacoma housing will grow even higher when the light rail connects to Seattle! Don’t sell too soon!

  • @aidancollins1591

    @aidancollins1591

    Жыл бұрын

    A tale as old as time, people always dislike the new buildings. Once the boxy townhouses go out of style and other things get built, people will opine about how beautiful they are. The brownstones in NYC were universally hated when they first went up, they were called cheap, industrial, and ugly. Now, they're seen as NYC's most iconic homes and sell for millions of dollars.

  • @marc3716
    @marc37163 жыл бұрын

    Kyle - I love your videos. You offer a lot of cool insight that's not common knowledge. Love the howdy you offer up to start each video. You the man! Please keep making new ones because I'm almost caught up now. Cheers from Canada

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @wwsuwannee7993
    @wwsuwannee79933 жыл бұрын

    My family moved to small town Colorado back in the 70's when I was 15 years old...from Illinois. The people were absolutley horrible, super clanny and cliquey and not very freindly at all, including the surrounding towns. I managed to have a few friends but most of them came and went. My best friend through the rest of high school was also from Illinois...go figure. I have also traveled the inter mountain west extensively, it is quite beautiful, but unless you are in a larger town or some tourist trap(they can be rude in those too but not as much) the people are the most unfriendly in the country, they make it obvious you are not welcome. This goes for alot of Utah, Colorado, Idaho, somewhat of eastern Washington and Oregon, and most definatley Wyoming. Surprisingly, Montana is not too bad. I have friends from Brooklyn, one from Queens, Philly, and 2 from Pittsburg who are waaaaaay friendlier that those previously mentioned. They can come off as rude but they really aren't...they just say exactly what they think, wether you like it or not, which is actually quite refreshing considering most people are full of shit.

  • @BorninVirginia
    @BorninVirginia3 жыл бұрын

    Got to admit I have only been up and down the East coast, but so far it a great country with many places I would like to move. I hope to visit California at some point.

  • @lynksis12

    @lynksis12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Come visit. Warm weather, scenic coastline, picturesque mountain ranges, vibrant cities, diverse cuisine, and dozens of amusement parks await you

  • @phongphong4640

    @phongphong4640

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lynksis12 I live in New York City and I LOVE California. It's so beautiful in every part of the state. I visit CA a few times a year. I definitely LOVE New York City. The best part of living in NYC is that you can J walk as many time as you want and you can also create Magic to elevate your life easily because we have many humans here. Another secret of NYC is that you can live really really cheaply if that's your preference. Actually, there are

  • @phongphong4640

    @phongphong4640

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lynksis12 I live in New York City and I LOVE California. It's so beautiful in every part of the state. I visit CA a few times a year. I definitely LOVE New York City. The best part of living in NYC is that you can J walk as many time as you want and you can also create Magic to elevate your life easily because we have many humans here. Another secret of NYC is that you can live really really cheaply if that's your preference. Actually, there are

  • @Chris_0803
    @Chris_08033 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video about the homeless situation and how that has affected the maps?

  • @kylerobinson1985
    @kylerobinson19853 жыл бұрын

    I lived all of 2018 in Vernal, Utah. I made no secret of the fact that I had moved from Austin, TX or that I was raised in California. I got a lot of hate. But the non-Mormon community there was tight and very welcoming.

  • @Milther2

    @Milther2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a non mormom from Utah. What you described is very accurate to most of the state. Non mormons are super easy to bond with because the mormon machine can be so intense and frankly discriminatory to non mormons, it's like we have a common enemy 🤝

  • @cutthroat399

    @cutthroat399

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Milther2 Amen, Non-LDS Utahans are pretty easy going.

  • @dogie1070

    @dogie1070

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Zen temple in SLC was so packed every Sunday.

  • @phreakzilla8514
    @phreakzilla85143 жыл бұрын

    Driving through Wyoming can be quite nerve racking sometimes. If your truck breaks down, or you hit one of those monster elk that rule the roads, you’re in trouble. No phone service, no radio, no nothing.

  • @TheHamburgler123

    @TheHamburgler123

    Жыл бұрын

    Thankfully people actually stop for you if you flag them down. Been there, done that. Also, if you're in open and flat terrain you'll almost certainly be able to pick up at least a faint signal. Hilly and mountainous terrain? I wouldn't bank on it.

  • @lisamarie1395
    @lisamarie13953 жыл бұрын

    I think people come across as unwelcoming or there is backlash due to migration because people do not want an influx of economic and social policies that will fundamentally change the area they live, and that does happen when there is massive population influx.

  • @heymikeyh9577
    @heymikeyh95773 жыл бұрын

    As a nearly life-long WA native (born in Seattle), I can positively say that Seattlites are pretty much just nasty-to everybody. Must be the weather…

  • @timslater566

    @timslater566

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s “The Seattle Freeze”..........it’s a real thing.

  • @ArtByKarenEHaley

    @ArtByKarenEHaley

    3 жыл бұрын

    I went up there to Tukwilla last year for a miniatures fair, and we encountered some very genuinely kind people. I guess if you visit Washington, go to a Sizzler's, where everyone is in a good mood haha

  • @heymikeyh9577

    @heymikeyh9577

    3 жыл бұрын

    ArtByKarenEHaley I should also point out that there’s a difference on the east side of the state-we’re not unfriendly, just a bit reserved around strangers-we just don’t want to intrude. If you say something to us, you’ll find we’re mostly quite friendly-after we get over the shock that you actually wanted to talk to us 😊

  • @PM-tc6sl

    @PM-tc6sl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @dakota haro Wow that's a big move culturally-wise. What made you do it?

  • @chrisv9186

    @chrisv9186

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Dakota. Cool. My sister moved to Vancouver. Burnaby actually.

  • @pipe2devnull
    @pipe2devnull3 жыл бұрын

    Got this from the movie 'True Stories' which takes place in Virgil Texas. The name Texas derives from a Caddo Indian word that means “friends” or “allies,” which was incorporated into the state motto: Friendship.

  • @kedrickd7
    @kedrickd75 жыл бұрын

    Yea Austin is getting much bigger from when I got here in 2008. I also hear what your saying about Wyoming,Utah and Idaho I never had a bad experience in Utah or Idaho. Wyoming on the other hand they do not like outsiders at all I even got called colored there before. I have also had bad experiences in West Virigina, a gentlemen has literally walked up to me and family members and told us there part of the Klan we better watch out. And beer bottles thrown at our vehicles in Charleston West Virigina. Most of Oregon is pretty non welcoming its not all Portland.

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    5 жыл бұрын

    My in laws are all in West Virginia and they can be pretty cringey racist. I can imagine some of these places being even more difficult for minorities to feel accepted.

  • @johnchedsey1306

    @johnchedsey1306

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a boring looking white dude, so I've never had issues driving anywhere in this country. I had a healthy reality check awhile back when I was talking about exploring Arizona to a trans friend, who just pointed out "I'd love to visit too, but I have to worry all the time about hostility regarding my appearance'. It was the perfect call out of the white privilege I almost unwittingly enjoy (and everyone else should enjoy!).

  • @HisboiLRoi

    @HisboiLRoi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnchedsey1306 - Tucson and Flagstaff are both quite trans-friendly.

  • @johnqwenton1485

    @johnqwenton1485

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then don't move to those areas or visit them. They don't want you there and they don't deserve your money or company.

  • @M3rover
    @M3rover3 жыл бұрын

    Opinion about Idaho and Wyoming being unwelcoming: I think that when you move to or live in a place that is so desolate and peaceful any disruption must be unnerving to the resident. They also might be suspicious of real estate developers that will put up large houses and ruin the views or peace or nature or whatever it is that they like about being there; I know I would be. If I lived on the moon for the purpose of quiet beauty and suddenly 1000 people moved to my area I'd be pissed off.

  • @thegreatders344

    @thegreatders344

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats about right. Its not that we outright hate out of staters, we just don't want you to move here lol. A lot of really cool spots that only locals knew about 5-10 years ago are now polluted by Californians and Utahns, and its incredibly frustrating when we can't enjoy our own backyard

  • @texaswunderkind

    @texaswunderkind

    Жыл бұрын

    One of my best friends is a Korean-American. During a road trip we once stopped in a small town cafe for lunch in rural Minnesota. The locals in the cafe nearly had a fit trying to figure why we were there. The waitress kept being sent over to ask us more questions. It was the craziest thing. He had lived in the U.S. his whole life and spoke English without an accent.

  • @itsme-rt7nz
    @itsme-rt7nz2 жыл бұрын

    Could you explain the legend for the map you used for the thumbnail for this video? I am from NM, and it is much more purple than the surrounding states (or most of the rest of the country for that matter).

  • @JaredJonesAZ
    @JaredJonesAZ3 жыл бұрын

    One of my fav videos of yours. You nailed Philly.. super outgoing culture, they will be real with you from the start, and they want to like you. For the time being I'm in Phoenix and people here are very laid back. A little more shallow but definitely more considerate. I prefer the Philly realness personally.

  • @devinmathews7809
    @devinmathews78093 жыл бұрын

    I live in Idaho and unfortunately, you are correct. People are so closed minded here. But jobs keep bringing people in. I've had rude experiences in Wyoming too but not so much in Utah

  • @bglrj
    @bglrj3 жыл бұрын

    I have lived in 14 States and spent time in almost all the rest and agree with everything you are saying.

  • @dwaynesbadchemicals
    @dwaynesbadchemicals2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your channel compared to other ones. Yours seems much more educational and experiential.

  • @dianelewis4774
    @dianelewis47743 жыл бұрын

    This seems to be a very good view of migration in the U.S., and I apreciate your honesty. This message is one we all need to hear and understand.

  • @coda623
    @coda6233 жыл бұрын

    I moved to Utah from Missouri for school and I think what you say about this state and Idaho and Wyoming is accurate. Even in the Salt Lake City area where I live, people can be unwelcoming and cold toward newcomers, and I rarely venture out into the backcountry of Utah for the reasons you mention. It's just such a sparsely populated area that people who live out there have very little contact with people outside their own small towns and get very skeptical of people they don't know and people who don't look/act/talk like them. Whereas back in the midwest people in small towns are usually very friendly. This aspect of Utah is one reason why I'd like to leave after I finish school.

  • @bendoe9463
    @bendoe94633 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the unwelcome feeling of Wyoming, Idaho and Utah. I drove from SLC to Evanston, then to bear lake. I passed through all three states, and we went through the more backroads. In Laketown I got some weird looks from a gas attendant, like they were annoyed to see outsiders in the off season of the resort area. In Evanston, a Walmart employee started a greeting, but then stopped abruptly, I said hi. No response. I had a feeling we weren't welcome, glad to know I wasn't alone

  • @FinancialOptimization
    @FinancialOptimization2 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your interesting and insightful takes about the US and the world. I moved from the SF Bay Area to Detroit and they've welcomed me quite nicely. I think I felt the same thing you felt being scared of the unwelcoming vibe when I was roadtripping in America; I felt it in the rural parts of KS, MO, and KY. That's scarier than anything I've witnessed in Detroit

  • @nikolatasev4948
    @nikolatasev49483 жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely right! It always amazes me how the ancestors of (most) people in the US travelled across the ocean then halfway across the continent in search for a better life. Now too many refuse to move to the neighboring town or state for a better job... I just watched your "8 Worst Places in the U.S." and can't understand why is anyone left living there! I'm not from the US, I'm from the EU, but also moved to another town for a better place to work. I also came to the US twice on a work-and-travel visa! Three months each in Point Pleasant, NJ in 05 and Riverton WY in 06. I have to say these were really nice places and I have fond memories from there! I did not feel overt hostility, but then again, it was very brief and on only two places.

  • @norml.hugh-mann

    @norml.hugh-mann

    Жыл бұрын

    It costs a lot of money to move..

  • @MrCrilliver
    @MrCrilliver Жыл бұрын

    Being from Idaho I can say you are 100% correct. Trying to tell people that the majority of the people moving to the Boise area are from other parts of Idaho is a lost cause. I kid you not, 75% of the time someone says "Damn Californians" I ask where they are from. (Hint: The answer is not Idaho) LOL Tribalism at its finest.

  • @socksal
    @socksal3 жыл бұрын

    I live in Charlotte NC, people moving here just want a good life for their family. I'm not resentful, I feel fortunate to be somewhere worth coming to. Y'all might not be Southern, but your children and grandchildren will be. And they are very much welcome!

  • @jthomashair

    @jthomashair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I moved to Charlotte from Texas two years ago! I like the blend of urban and southern lifestyle.

  • @Iamthepossum

    @Iamthepossum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow; that’s great to hear. Thank you for your comment. I had heard bad things about hostility, racism & whatnot in small towns in NC.

  • @jthomashair

    @jthomashair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Iamthepossum Charlotte is no small town

  • @Iamthepossum

    @Iamthepossum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jthomashair Thank you, Thomas. I have never been there, but was impressed with housing prices in NC as compared with the west coast. How is the job market in Charlotte? thanks for your feedback!

  • @jthomashair

    @jthomashair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Iamthepossum job market is strong. Lots of well paying jobs in business and especially finance but also currently diversifying into tech and other areas as well

  • @kedrickd7
    @kedrickd75 жыл бұрын

    Another great video thank you and keep them coming

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @PaulKacsur-gj5rt
    @PaulKacsur-gj5rt11 ай бұрын

    Hey Kyle, I watch and enjoy your videos all the time. I realize you may not have the time or desire to answer all of these comments but I'm still wondering and if you have done a video on the weird boundaries of Delaware and the eastern boundary of California please let me know where I can see these videos. If you haven't I would like to hear your take on the eastern boundary of California that changes directions in the middle of Lake Tahoe and why the northern boundary of Delaware is shaped like a dome. I did some research on the Dome of Delaware years ago but I would like to hear your take on it. Keep them coming pal

  • @greeneggsandham2475
    @greeneggsandham24753 жыл бұрын

    My dads been through the whole contiguous United States and the way you described the ppl from Idaho and Utah is how my dad describes Okies

  • @hbofbyu1
    @hbofbyu13 жыл бұрын

    Outsiders moving to small towns in Idaho (Driggs), Wyoming (Jackson), Utah (Heber), and Montana (Bozeman) is not unlike having an HOA come take control of your neighborhood. The fear is losing your rural freedoms that include your gun laws, hunting and fishing spaces, and liberal zoning restrictions. When you make your living off the land, you don't want high tech workers or retirees moving into your community to raise your taxes and your housing costs as they buy up surrounding land. These rich people don't work at the grocery stores, gas stations, malls, restaurants, nor in the service industry. The high cost of housing, prices these jobs out of the community and turns the towns into enclaves of the 1% that drive out those who would prefer to stay in the town they consider home. You can't stand in the way of change, but you can also understand their fear of losing their livelihood or having to move.

  • @aidancollins1591

    @aidancollins1591

    Жыл бұрын

    Understand your first three points but not your last one, liberal zoning restrictions? Strict zoning restrictions in this country are near ubiquitous and are extreme everyone. Hell, I'd say they're most strict in rural places since they're used as a tool to keep newcomers out. God forbid a municipal government try to plan a walkable community with middle housing, shops, restaurants, and bars mixed in, it is illegal. Between building setback requirements, road width requirements, parking requirements, bans on mixing shops and houses, and restrictions on duplexes, multiplexes, and mixed-use buildings, it's impossible unless you're a private developer. It ain't a liberal or conservative thing.

  • @Iamthepossum
    @Iamthepossum3 жыл бұрын

    This is such great content, thank you for filming this video & presenting your research

  • @andrewq5562
    @andrewq55623 жыл бұрын

    Love the objective outlook! Keep 'em coming.

  • @mntsam1930
    @mntsam19303 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine moved from California to Texas and while his car still had Cali plates one of his neighbors changed their Wifi name to “Go back to California”

  • @querulant1869

    @querulant1869

    3 жыл бұрын

    What did u expect?

  • @mntsam1930

    @mntsam1930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@querulant1869 Nothing shy of that really. Texans hate Californians after all.

  • @querulant1869

    @querulant1869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mntsam1930 yes we do

  • @mntsam1930

    @mntsam1930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@querulant1869 Yup California sucks. In fact all of the Pacific Northwest is a shit hole, internationally as well. British Columbia is also pretty bad from what I’ve heard.

  • @querulant1869

    @querulant1869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mntsam1930 the main thing that makes people unhappy is that transplants of failed states tend to bring their failed politics with them

  • @GordonLF
    @GordonLF Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I found this video (and all the comments below) because I thought that what I had felt while traveling through small towns in northern Utah, southeastern Idaho and southwestern Wyoming was just a product of my paranoia. Never have I felt so unwelcome in any other part of the USA. Mean looks, rude questions, unfriendly attitude, etc.

  • @JS-vj6rm

    @JS-vj6rm

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel the same unfriendly vibes near Wichita, Kansas where I recently moved to from Texas. For me it is the most unwelcoming place in the US I've experienced

  • @gnosis6656
    @gnosis66563 жыл бұрын

    The whole video is good. 2nd half is fantastic. It’s not a rant, just a well-informed discussion of what the U.S. ought to be. Wouldn’t you say that topography also plays a role in the difference between how Austin and Seattle have handled migration? With Puget Sound and Lake Washington and the steep slopes in between, expanding housing in Seattle’s tough. Austin can spread out in almost any direction it wants. It basically has.

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Austin definitely doesn't have the same need for vertical development and yet each time I go back (almost annually) there's a new high rise!

  • @michaelwang268

    @michaelwang268

    2 жыл бұрын

    But Austin seems to be basically expanding along i35 and texas1, making the whole city a narrow kinda shape...

  • @JB-qt4hp
    @JB-qt4hp3 жыл бұрын

    I understand you not calling out any of these towns by name but I'd be interested to know what regions in Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming you found there to be particular rudeness or unfriendlieness are, at least if they're right off the interstate or farther off the beaten path.

  • @MrGalonge
    @MrGalonge3 жыл бұрын

    I live in Los Angeles, a city that up until the mid-late 20th century was a majority migrant population. LA was built on people from Iowa, Boston, Kansas, Nebraska, Japan, Germany, China, Mexico, Korea, Ethiopia, Philippines and pretty much everywhere you can imagine. I believe that’s why, for the most part, we welcome everyone. This is a city composed of people from all over The world, and we embrace that. Oh, and when you get here, feel free to vote for who ever you want, and live however you want.

  • @DannythePeach

    @DannythePeach

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed it's totally a big city vs small city mindset, nyc/chicago are similar in that way

  • @johnny6148
    @johnny61483 жыл бұрын

    lived in Idaho for 10 years in 1970s. moved back in 2016 but moved to south central area. kinda of stone age people living the simple life. was sad to see the changes and all the fast food joints. city of rocks was always a joy to me. I still miss it and maybe before i die i will move back the only problem is i won't be able to climb all the mountains there like i did when i was 24 YO.

  • @rwg727
    @rwg7272 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your videos! I really appreciate your research and opinions. You have a great attitude

  • @pat1589
    @pat15893 жыл бұрын

    From New Zealand. Really enjoying your videos. Thank you.

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger7333 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of zoning - its so crazy. People act like "why is housing so expensive" - duh. You made it expensive with your NIMBY rules. Those people have been fxng up cities from one end of the country to the other.

  • @matthewbadley5063

    @matthewbadley5063

    3 жыл бұрын

    "We don't want people to move here, let's make it harder to do that" *congrats housing gets more expensive* "Oh no, my kids can't afford to live here. They're being chased away from their homes. This is terrible." *well that's what you wanted* "No it isn't! It's these new people moving in. We need to stop that stuff!" These people are oblivious

  • @kipthearcticfox5124
    @kipthearcticfox51243 жыл бұрын

    As a North Dakotan I'm just fine with living in a modest self built house and a whole lot of land, And yes we have neighbors; I have 26.

  • @dickmcwienersonIII

    @dickmcwienersonIII

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who asked you? Just kidding, I'm from ND as well, love it here! Lets hang out! Drink some BL's play some ladderball.

  • @kipthearcticfox5124

    @kipthearcticfox5124

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dickmcwienersonIII Sure, sounds great

  • @justind6672

    @justind6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dickmcwienersonIII Go Carson Wentz!

  • @dickmcwienersonIII

    @dickmcwienersonIII

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kipthearcticfox5124 K be right over

  • @purplenerd5293
    @purplenerd52932 жыл бұрын

    Used to live in small towns in Utah and I definitely see what you're saying. I was so relieved to finally leave and move out of there!

  • @elsajohnson6663
    @elsajohnson66633 жыл бұрын

    I agree about Utah, Wyoming Idaho being creepy. I experienced that in Wyoming at a convenience store. My friend lived in utah and called them robots, hated it so much she left 6 months later!

  • @nnis_guy1609
    @nnis_guy16093 жыл бұрын

    Grew up in SC, moved to CT while in high school and was driving around TX with CT plates. I went to Palo Duro Canyon and the ranger said “ where you from?” and to make things easy I said “ Connecticut” and he says “ welcome to America!”. I wasn’t too bothered, but the message was clear...lol that was 2008. I’ve seen occasional unwelcome ness in a few places I’ve traveled, but in some areas people have a clannish kind of way about em, and you’ll never be one of them as long as you live there. Not necessarily unfriendly, but you will always be an outsider in their eyes

  • @joshuacarnes5446
    @joshuacarnes54463 жыл бұрын

    There's actually quite a bit of resentment from "native" Vermonters toward "flatlanders," i.e. - people who moved here from other places (like literally anywhere else, even where the land is more mountainous than Vermont), which is totally something I didn't expect. I've learned to blend in with my grouchy neighbors over the years, but according to them, I'll never be a "true Vermonter."

  • @kristerforsman2448
    @kristerforsman24483 жыл бұрын

    I just found your tube channel. Saw it about the 8 scariest places in the US and saw it about the poorest areas. Very interesting but really depressing. Now I see this one about places with unfriendly people. Does this also apply to foreign tourists? As a Swede, you hear about the superficial but still friendly Americans, so I'm a little surprised.

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    I haven't heard of people being rude to foreign tourists. Unfriendliness is mainly towards other Americans that move to a different part of the country.

  • @spudrain
    @spudrain3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your honesty.

  • @closmasmas9080
    @closmasmas90803 жыл бұрын

    In Hawaii it’s usually due to the people that don’t respect the culture and norms in Hawaii.

  • @gregwarner3753

    @gregwarner3753

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which culture? Polynesia or Beach Party or US Navy?

  • @somerandomperson8135

    @somerandomperson8135

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gregwarner3753 yes

  • @kalimakuhilani

    @kalimakuhilani

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gregwarner3753 Hawaiian

  • @gregwarner3753

    @gregwarner3753

    3 жыл бұрын

    My experience with Hawaii is limited to a liberty when the ship I was on was headed for Nam and watching big surf competition on TV. When this Covid disaster eases we may take a trip to the enchanted islands.

  • @capnsteele3365

    @capnsteele3365

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kalimakuhilani it's almost gone

  • @mediocreboi
    @mediocreboi3 жыл бұрын

    I live in NC and sometimes it feels like my own state wants me to leave, I've experienced that gas station situation before.

  • @jnmsks6052
    @jnmsks60523 жыл бұрын

    When my brother got married back in 2000, he and my SIL were thinking of driving out West for their honeymoon, and my dad highly discouraged them from going out to the very places you mentioned as least welcoming. I guess that's just the way some people are, though it's a shame.

  • @BroMark1611
    @BroMark16113 жыл бұрын

    This was great. I have moved a lot amongst many states and have the same experience of un-welcomeness in some. People can be territorial like animals. Be what they need to make them money and the ones who count in your life will go out of their way to make you feel welcome though.

  • @kimghanson
    @kimghanson3 жыл бұрын

    Kyle, I've traveled some too and I find the smaller the town, the more unfriendly it is. Once you get above 5000 residents there is no problem but those villages and hamlets are very insular. My worst experience was in Washington state. No, I won't go into detail but my unflagging politeness saved the day.

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Especially in the west where small towns are spaced far apart you get a lot more "get out of here" mentality.

  • @robertheed4040
    @robertheed40403 жыл бұрын

    I noticed the same thing when I was road tripping through Utah, as a Texan with Texas plates. A lot of the people really stared me down and were aggressively short with me when I'd try to make small talk or purchase something from one of their stores. It was at its worst in Torrey. Could be random chance, but it seems like a lot of people have experienced the same thing. That being said, Utah was an incredibly beautiful state and I'll gladly go back anytime.

  • @SuperJ213

    @SuperJ213

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. During a road trip to Capital Reef I took my family to a pizza place in Torrey and the staff seemed fine. I recall occasional people coming in who appeared to be locals and I remember not getting a good vibe from them. I usually sense that in rural places, though. I was born and raised in LA and always felt out of place in rural areas. Now I'm in Utah County which has been a great place to live and raise a family.

  • @ST19859

    @ST19859

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually remember having a perfectly good vibe in Torrey, biggest issue I could see there is its such a tourist oriented place they might be indifferent to outsiders

  • @Rose-yt5hi
    @Rose-yt5hi3 жыл бұрын

    I just moved to Nashville from the SF Bay Area, and my general view is that the locals have mixed feelings-they like the growth, but it does also present problems with city infrastructure not being able to keep up and housing prices rising. They’re not really hostile, though, and are actually quite friendly. They’re just more pragmatic, trying to take the positives and negatives it in stride.

  • @gillianfisher752
    @gillianfisher7523 жыл бұрын

    Just stumbled on this video. Wonderful analyses and explanations. Subscribed. :)

  • @lpgfamily5
    @lpgfamily55 жыл бұрын

    We are in San Joaquin as well and I think it would be very welcoming here if you were to have moved from mostly anywhere else in the county. You’re right though, I’ve heard a lot of anti-California sentiment from other states we’d previously considered switching to. I went so far as to tell my husband we’d have to hide the fact that we spent the past 20 years in California, we could claim our birth states instead. The town we currently reside is quick to knock down those from the Bay Area though. They are seen as overly sensitive complainers who want to disrupt the way things have been.

  • @GeographyKing

    @GeographyKing

    5 жыл бұрын

    For folks from the Bay Area a lot of the resentment is toward people who sell their house for say $800,000, move to Modesto or Visalia or another state, buy a house for 1/3 of the cost and then bank the rest of the money with one of the spouses retiring at age 45. I think there's some jealousy associated with that. I know I'd love to be in the position of retiring early with a house completely paid for!

  • @frostbitemansion9610

    @frostbitemansion9610

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m from Santa Clara and there’s not to much resentment of new comers. We accept all kinds of foreign immigrants but I can’t think of many people I know who have moved from another US state

  • @romeo_alpha0176

    @romeo_alpha0176

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frostbitemansion9610 a lot of the out of state newcomers I met coming to the Bay Area are either military, tech, or homeless.

  • @vagabondroller

    @vagabondroller

    3 жыл бұрын

    I doubt more than 10% of adults in Santa Clara were born in CA at this point.

  • @Iamthepossum

    @Iamthepossum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frostbitemansion9610 on the whole; California is a welcoming place, that’s part of its charm & appeal, and a big reason why folks don’t leave.

  • @DragonKazooie89
    @DragonKazooie893 жыл бұрын

    As someone who moved from the San Bernadino mountains to Northern Utah (Ogden/Logan area) 6 years ago, I haven't had much backlash. It also helps that I have family in the area and the community I grew up around had a large chunk of LDS residents, even though I'm not LDS myself. Turns out a lot of my coworkers actually lived in California for a time before moving to Utah so there's some common ground right there.

  • @ellayelich1802

    @ellayelich1802

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think people don’t talk nearly enough about the cultural connection between Southern California and the salt lake metro. I find that many if not most people have loads of familial and professional connections in Southern California, particularly Orange County. There’s even a running joke among most people that live on salt lake’s east side that they all move to Newport at the same time for a few weeks each summer to stay with family/visit the beach. Some people literally call it “little utah” hahah

  • @alechagen6291

    @alechagen6291

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellayelich1802 also worth mentioning that like southern California, SLC area has a large Polynesian community.

  • @captainchaserman7148

    @captainchaserman7148

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ellayelich1802 it’s because the Mormons settled all of Southern California.

  • @ASMRDoodlez
    @ASMRDoodlez3 жыл бұрын

    After reading a bunch of grumpy comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that the unfriendliness is mostly people who like where they live and the culture it has and don’t want it to change or be replaced. It’s a mentality of, “If you like other policies and ways of living, why not move somewhere that already has those and let us be?”

  • @douglasclark64
    @douglasclark643 жыл бұрын

    As a Californian who loves to road trip throughout the West, I’ve always felt welcome by the folks in those parts.

  • @crewsinthewest352

    @crewsinthewest352

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Californian road-tripper too and I felt very vindicated to hear Kyle's take on Idaho because FUCK IDAHO.

  • @arizenation3188

    @arizenation3188

    Жыл бұрын

    Im from Oakland CA but have lived in several states since, and people usually treat it like its mildly cool, or just uninteresting. Never a negative response though.

  • @clayton7757
    @clayton77573 жыл бұрын

    The SLC area is generally friendly from what I’ve seen, but I can definitely see Wyoming being “unfriendly”.

  • @johnalden5821

    @johnalden5821

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was in Wyoming earlier this year. I was heavily masked-up due to COVID, so it was hard to tell what things would be like in a normal year. My observation was that people were not hostile or unfriendly, but they were also not what I'd call warm or welcoming. They were civil and mostly helpful. One weird reaction I did get was ironically from a uniformed ranger, who explicitly and directly told me to back off (I was trying to get some potentially crucial info on weather conditions), although we were already at a distance of about 20 feet, outside, with both of us wearing a mask. Thereafter, she retreated into the ranger station (from which we were locked out). Like I said, it is unlikely this would have happened in any other year, but yeah, it was like "Go die in the mountains in whatever manner you see fit."

  • @E4439Qv5

    @E4439Qv5

    3 жыл бұрын

    The terrain itself is the most inhospitable part of Wyoming. The people are fine.

  • @coda623

    @coda623

    3 жыл бұрын

    SLC is definitely friendlier than other parts of Utah, but I moved to the SLC area from Missouri and I've noticed that the friendliest people are the ones who are also transplants. The Utah natives can be downright cold sometimes.

  • @stevenmiller2820
    @stevenmiller28203 жыл бұрын

    Come to Ohio. It’s extremely average, but welcoming.

  • @mace1633

    @mace1633

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree

  • @saladna

    @saladna

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like your honesty. Lol

  • @jonathanbowers8964

    @jonathanbowers8964

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Ohio has its good parts and it's not so nice parts. Move to Columbus or Cincinnati and you will be fine.

  • @joehaynes7092

    @joehaynes7092

    3 жыл бұрын

    Although moan and groan in my head every time I hear someone’s from Cleveland as a Cincinnatian it’s like I can see it from a mile away without them even saying it 😂

  • @spookyscaryskeletonsmith2840

    @spookyscaryskeletonsmith2840

    2 жыл бұрын

    but are you really excited as uh, Ohio hio Ohi Ohi Ohio art spans

  • @j.s.7335
    @j.s.73353 жыл бұрын

    Austinite here. Smart man you are. Thank you for telling it like it is about housing supply and price. I find it so ridiculous that people bemoan new condo towers, which are the best way to help mitigate rising housing prices while altering the least amount of the city. That said, we do have a legitimate beef with California and Californians, as do other states. California is not building enough housing to meet their demand, so people understandably flee California to elsewhere and put growth pressure on our cities. People want locals to get the new jobs, and want new jobs that the locals are qualified for.

  • @Milleneum

    @Milleneum

    3 жыл бұрын

    So much of the good areas in California are already packed with people. Traffic is horrible in all the population centers, and we don't want to see every square inch of undeveloped land built on. The high cost of living has already been starting to weed some people out of the state. But we have some of the best weather there is, as Kyle has said in other videos, and thus people will continue to want to live here. Also, I can say one of the major problems here is that we are starting to have a serious issue with resources. Most specifically water. We have been in a "drought" pretty much since the 2000's started. Right now we should be into our rainy season and instead it is dry as a bone. This is going to have increasing effects on housing in the very near and far future. No water for the farmers, much less the homes.

  • @michaelburt9839
    @michaelburt98393 жыл бұрын

    The so-called population loss in California is greatly exaggerated. It's no longer a fast growth rate, but in terms of raw numbers, only Texas and Florida grew by more between 2010 and 2020. That's right. More than Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, or Colorado. Now, perhaps the growth has stalled in the past 3-4 years, but not enough to be very apparent in census numbers.

  • @christinafidance340
    @christinafidance3403 жыл бұрын

    I always find the political divides interesting and here is something that I have definitely noticed A LOT! I am from Delaware, but I recently just moved to Maryland. (My hubby and I bought a boat and moved onto it and we are docked right outside of Chesapeake City on the bay.) Well, a lot of people upon hearing I live in Maryland (like online really), tend to say stuff like, “Oh I bet I know who you voted for!” Or “oh what a liberal state that is!!!”. However, that’s not really true. Maryland is a blue state mainly because of Baltimore and Washington DC, and that’s also where most of the population lives, but if you want to talk about aria the vast majority of Maryland is rural. I live in Cecil County and this year, I existed in a literal SEA of Trump flags! They were EVERYWHERE!!! (Not to mention, for some reason, Trump was HUGELY popular with boaters so I couldn’t go to any marina around without at least 30% of the boats flying Trump flags and some people even went so far as to wrap THEIR ENTIRE BOAT in the word “TRUMP”!!! And I AM liberal, by the way so it got old real quick for me!!!) But my point is that even in blue dates, the vast majority of most of them, area-wise, is still pretty rural and the extremely red. So, that’s just something I have noticed. Same thing with Virginia and Delaware too. For example, Delaware has gone blue for as long as I can remember, but only 1 out of its 3 counties is urban and blue, while the other 2 are pretty rural and always red. It’s just that the vast majority of the population lives within the cities there.

  • @MostestBoringPerson
    @MostestBoringPerson3 жыл бұрын

    100% correct about rural Idaho and most of Wyoming being unwelcoming and extremely creepy. I chuckled a little when you said the #1 priority of politicians is job growth. Not in Wyoming.

  • @thomasschellberg4235

    @thomasschellberg4235

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is hard to get industry to come here. WY has only one university, and the tax revenue is primarily from mineral revenues (severance taxes) that are declining. Coal production has fallen significantly in the last five years, so I don't expect much growth, except from retirees who want low taxes.

  • @adamkovynia
    @adamkovynia3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see more videos about Connecticut, thanks, I've been enjoying your videos.

  • @minnybiker4505
    @minnybiker45053 жыл бұрын

    Born and raised in MN, I've moved to MA and CO. I enjoyed both, but Boston was too expensive, and Denver had awful traffic, and just missed home. There's a sense up here that the rest of the country has no idea about the Twin Cities other than it's cold. Part of us wants everyone to come visit, but the other side is we don't really want it to grow any more. Garrison Keillor once said something like "don't come unless you're prepared to stay. It's that good." I know several people who came here for a job and never left. We're very proud of this region. So, come visit! We'll show you around! We are mostly as friendly as the stereotypes say. :)

  • @kylebritt1225
    @kylebritt12253 жыл бұрын

    Worked and/or lived in 9 states and several countries in the past 69 years. Universally found that good manners and humility made me feel comfortable and welcome. When I did meet unpleasant folks, they were the outliers and my opinions were confirmed by the folks that knew them best. That cult place sounds like the Twilight Zone or Stepford Wives.

  • @timstewart567
    @timstewart5673 жыл бұрын

    I moved to Maine in 1987 and left in 2007. If you are not born in Maine then you are always "from away" and never accepted. I moved to Texas in 2007 and was welcomed but warned about bringing "yankee" politics with me. I love Texas!

  • @j.gretchenkennington
    @j.gretchenkennington10 ай бұрын

    You are absolutely right about the unfriendliness in these places. As an older woman, I have traveled many places by myself. I enjoy being able to go where I want, when I want. I moved to the Oregon Coast several years ago. I had only been to the "liberal" places in that state, so my guard was down. I had just retired, lived in Calif. most of my life and wanted a serene "country home." This coast is heavily logged, they leave a fringe along the road of trees for the tourist's benefit, the rest they cut down. Some of the men are "coarse," and their scared women are afraid to speak up. I GOT THE HECK OUT OF THERE.

  • @carolynstancill6790
    @carolynstancill67903 жыл бұрын

    I live in Laurel, Mississippi. Houses don’t stay on the market very long because people from all over the USA and Canada are moving here since our friends, Ben and Erin Napier starred on HGTV Hometown. We have tourists too. Laurel is and has always been unique. We have great diversity in cultures and races and live together peacefully. All religions are represented but we are mostly kind, helpful Christians. People are welcomed to come here if you work, respect everyone and go to church. Our culture has a passion for Bible-believing-church-going people.

  • @zzz6valvoline
    @zzz6valvoline3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man. I'm from the central valley, and I now live in Utah. I totally get what you're saying!

  • @chrisv9186

    @chrisv9186

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha. My boss if from the Central Valley and moved to SLC.

  • @markstlcard
    @markstlcard3 жыл бұрын

    Texas welcomes everyone except Californians. They move to Austin.

  • @jeremyfisher8512

    @jeremyfisher8512

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every day the percentage of Austin natives shrinks just a bit more as the amount of traffic goes up

  • @joseaguilera1609

    @joseaguilera1609

    3 жыл бұрын

    @New York Man To tell you the truth we see New Yorkers and New Jersians as the same people and Illinoisans as as just plain midwesterners unless they're from Chicago. We don't hate anyone though, not even Californians. Just the thing is, nobody likes for people to come around preaching about their way of life.

  • @judgejudy7283

    @judgejudy7283

    3 жыл бұрын

    Idaho welcomes everyone except Californians

  • @panzer_TZ

    @panzer_TZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeremyfisher8512 I wanted to move to Austin from San Antonio, but after seeing how bad the traffic is there, I've had second thoughts. This video is definitely correct about the Austin's growth outpacing the infrastructure. Combine that with Austin's hilly terrain, and there are a lot of bottlenecks that create LA-levels of horrible traffic. I've heard managers from the Austin complain about losing promising candidates purely because of the office's location in South Austin.

  • @panzer_TZ

    @panzer_TZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    North Dallas, Plano, Allen, etc. probably have just as many Californian transplants.

  • @SuperJ213
    @SuperJ2132 жыл бұрын

    This video is based on interactions through travel. It would be interesting to see your thoughts on the "rudeness" of people based on customer service over the phone! I know I am not alone in this, but my experience has been that if you need to talk to someone from places like NY then you better be prepared for an unenjoyable conversation. I've found customer service people in western states and the south to be quite pleasant, while oftentimes in New England states to be less so. I guess people out west or down south are OK with small talk and pleasantries, while people back east want to use the fewest words possible without any emotion to accomplish the task at hand. Any thoughts on that?

  • @john3_14-17
    @john3_14-173 жыл бұрын

    Could be totally wrong, as it’s just from internet comments, but when reading about prepping stuff the difference between say, Missourians and Arkansans and Idahoans, Montanans, and Wyomingites can be stark. The people from the interior northwest are focused more on keeping outsiders away while the people from the south are more focused on helping others, even planning out how to feed refugees from the surrounding areas in a crisis. So what you say about visiting Idaho and Wyoming seems to click. Not sure what the differences are with Montana.

  • @mingonmongo1
    @mingonmongo13 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating stuff... thx! And yep, the demise of the rural 'Heartland', and the growing dominance of tech and the 'Big Cities' really explains much of the country's increasing 'polarization'

  • @jxavier3876
    @jxavier38763 жыл бұрын

    This happens to degrees in Canada aswell, I know Vancouver is struggling a lot with affordable housing and property values have gone up pretty much all around southern B.C. many people blame foreign (mostly Chinese) real estate investors who they say jack up the market on purpose to profit from selling property that they have held on to and kept empty. So there is now a fair bit of resentment for “such investors” aswell as I guess people coming from the east to contribute to the crisis. Similiar problems happen in other western cities Like Calgary and Maybe a little less so Edmonton, their economies are dependant on oil their are a lot of empty retail buildings that are for lease for ever. Especially when oil is down, which it has been for the last few years, But there is increased demand for housing as people are interested in a budding tech industry. High rises are always being built and gentrification in the older neighborhoods is happening a lot. Many people are afraid of abandoning the oil industry for the yuppie tech industry which will attract hipsters and stuff to live in the high rises and cheap box houses that get built in the old neighborhoods.

  • @GhostOfAMachine

    @GhostOfAMachine

    3 жыл бұрын

    There needs to be laws against foreign investors buying up properties enacted, and all those properties need to be seized.

  • @overitall1310
    @overitall13102 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had three different trips to Idaho and every time I’ve seen and personally experienced discrimination of some sort. The best advice is to smile with confidence and being prepared

  • @joelcrow
    @joelcrow3 жыл бұрын

    Moving to new areas is exciting and it leads to empathy and understanding. If youve been complaining about your town for years then genuinely consider moving...its great!

  • @1310beth
    @1310beth3 жыл бұрын

    One of the best sayings I've ever heard is that Northeasterners are kind but not nice while Southerners are nice but not kind. Basically, Northeasternser won't play fake nice or do meaningless small talk but you'll always know exactly how they feel about you and they'll always jump to help someone in a tough spot. Where as Southerners will be extremely nice to your face but then trash talk you behind your back.

  • @EmpressMermaid

    @EmpressMermaid

    3 жыл бұрын

    One thing you hear a lot in the South is "Bless Your Heart", which means the opposite of what you think it does.

  • @jacksonanderson5288

    @jacksonanderson5288

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EmpressMermaid Or God Bless You.

  • @akbarshabazzjenkins2436

    @akbarshabazzjenkins2436

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope ,I'm born and raised in the South and we will tell you straight up how we feel about you , maybe you have met up with hypocrites