Might of the US: History of American Bombers
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During World War II, the U.S. bomber aviation was a force to be reckoned with, and its massive contribution to the eventual defeat of the Axis powers is absolutely indisputable. The mighty American industry built tens of thousands of bombers of all types, from single-engine carrier-based dive bombers to strategic B-17s and B-24s. Not to mention the legendary B-29 and B-32: true marvels of engineering.
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Okay since you guys mentioned bombers , for the love of GOD tell me WHY IN THE WORLD IS THE B29 AT 7.3 ????????
@AviationGamingINC.
Ай бұрын
Fr
@TeamValkyrie2023
Ай бұрын
I mean if u want historical matchmaking it belongs in same br as me262 6.7 to 7.3 so what's it gonna b gaijjn, historical or abilities based matchmaking
@TeamValkyrie2023
Ай бұрын
Technically Germany should dominate in air late ww2 in war thunder. And that's why no historical matchmaking. It would be Germany in jets, every one else in props from 6.0 to 7.3 can u imagine all the crying then?
@loneirregular1280
Ай бұрын
@TeamValkyrie2023 and also historically, the Luftwaffe still used props in the late stages of the war because they couldnt produce enough 262s. And also historically, early jets arent that much better than late war props. With that said I never played props vs jets. ☠️
@loneirregular1280
Ай бұрын
* sad Tu-4 noises *
Now if only you would make bombers worth playing.
@ThunDoom1116
Ай бұрын
All they have to do is double the rp and sl bonuses or even give it a 1.5 addition to make them more profitable than fighters
@derbyjr
Ай бұрын
@@ThunDoom1116or actually make them useful in matches
@ThunDoom1116
Ай бұрын
@derbyjr if you make them more profitable then they are useful to the player. Do you mean making AA bases that need heavier bomb loads than fighters and attackers to destroy or something? That only a bomber can destroy? Because thats the only "usefulness" fix I can think of.
@derbyjr
Ай бұрын
@@ThunDoom1116 no like instead of just in frontline matches, make bases count for all matches so the bomber players actually have a way to contribute to the match. Or make a game mode like the air assault mode but exclusively for bombers where instead of AI bombers and attackers, have the players in bombers and attackers and the AI in fighters
@pt3513
Ай бұрын
@@ThunDoom1116 well they recently made it so the bombers couldn't destroy the airbases anymore. I only saw that happen once, so its not like it happened all the time and ruined the game. It was a difficult goal to reach but at least it was a goal to achieve. Also the ai turrets are just awful. Even when maxed out they wont do anything. The last time a tail gunner actually did something for me, it finished off the yak9 that i had already set on fire with a bomb. poor accuracy from the ai is frustrating, but whats 10x worse is when the gunner dosent even shoot in the first place. Enemys will sit on your tail within spitting distance and the ai wont do jack about it. as for manually controlling turrets, it has an extremely steep learning curve, and the only way to learn is many hours of frustrating failure. a Tutorial and practice mission would go a very long way to help on that. also putting bombers like the b29 in tiers with jets is just dumb. the only real defense a bomber has is its altitude, and when facing jets thats not a viable option anymore. so, just bringing back the ability to destroy airfields and end the match would be a small help. Making it so the bombers aren't just easy prey, increasing their survivability would be better. I dont care if you somewhat reduce the rewards for ai gunner kills, just make the AI work for crap's sake. a separate bomber game mode might be nice, but to be honest I would be happy just by giving worth while targets in the normal mode, where my bombs actually contribute something to the match. That, and making it so they aren't just sitting ducks. so, 1. give the bomber players targets that actually help win the game 2. improve the ai gunners so that they'll actually do something to help 3. add a tutorial and training mission to help learn manual turret control 4. stop putting b29's against jets this isn't a perfect list, but I think it would be a good step in the right direction.
Bit disappointing that we haven’t see some of the real gems from the golden age of aviation come to the game. The B-47 Stratojet, the B-36 Peacemaker, B-32 Dominator, B-58 Hustler. So many beautiful airplanes.
@thitran1362
Ай бұрын
mostly due to the fact that bombers are generally useless in the game modes of war thunder. They need to somehow change the game modes to make bomber more useful.
@FutureFlash2034
Ай бұрын
@@thitran1362 They were useful, when airfields where an option to destroy, there was a need to support bombers and or destroy them to stop them in the background ending the game. But many fighter players who only focused fighter v fighter did not like having to attack bombers, so they removed airfields and made it so that bomber bases make a fraction of ground target point impact. This with the limit to 25minute matches from 60minutes originally means bombers cannot do what they used to.
@mikefischer8576
Ай бұрын
@@FutureFlash2034 You can still destroy airbases if you are able to destroy the three ground bases before the airbase
@thefireisonfire
Ай бұрын
@mikefischer8576 it depends on the map, but the majority of maps now have the 4 base setup where the 4 bases respawn and you cant destroy the AF
@3kmainer886
Ай бұрын
i think you mean peacemaker lmao but yes it is too bad
American heavy Bombers are awesome IRL, but flying American heavy bomber's in WarThunder is so rough. The Durability in game feels so bad and the gunners won't engage automatically unless the plane is close enough to scrape the bomber. The b29 being at it's BR should be illegal
@loneirregular1280
Ай бұрын
And then there is the Tu-4... 😅
@FutureFlash2034
Ай бұрын
The durability of bombers in warthunder is realistic I am afraid. Bombers are that fragile.
@devlintaylor9520
Ай бұрын
@@FutureFlash2034 They really are not. Shots at the tail make holes, the rear doesnt just detach from 2 shots
@devlintaylor9520
Ай бұрын
Same issue with twin engined planes too. They are made of paper
@FutureFlash2034
Ай бұрын
@@devlintaylor9520 What rounds are hitting you. If they are purely armour piercing then no it shouldn't. If they are explosive fragmentation rounds like meingeschoss then just like irl the compartment is overpressured and destroyed. There is a boat load of evidence even from some bombers that somehow were lucky enough to survive a 20-30mm meingeshoss round to the trailing edge of their wing and got home. And I really do mean a Single round.
Gaijin has been sleeping on WW2 aircraft for a while. Almost nothing new added.
@AmSharky-ky2kj
Ай бұрын
Fr
@deluxalpha4138
Ай бұрын
they have been sleeping on the game entirely. Just too worried about their precious premium vehicles that ruin the game
@santafewarbonnetproductions
26 күн бұрын
Fr
Add B32 Dominator, B36 Peacemaker,B45 Tornado, B47 StratoJet, B58 Hustler and update the Bomber Cockpits for god sake
@StealthCloudchaser
Ай бұрын
They do not care, They care about advertising the next top BR premium pack next update.
@niceburger6479
Ай бұрын
@@StealthCloudchaser facts
Kinda about time y'all add the b-52 and other strategic bombers...
@fidel-3470
Ай бұрын
Yeah, and there's at least 3 different B-52's to add with different tail weapons, one that had 4x 50 cal, one that had an M61 Vulcan 20mm, and one with electronic jammers. And IRL they had the ability to lock on to enemy aircraft an automatically engage. We have a bunch of useless meme tanks in game, but people think strategic bombers wouldn't work because there's no gameplay option. There's no excuse to not add them, it's OK if they're just a joke in the game.
@JetS_Gamer
Ай бұрын
The reason they aren't adding the b-52 was because it is an aircraft still in service, and because of all the leaked documents and such warthunder has been associated with, they do not want that to happen with the b-52
@fidel-3470
Ай бұрын
@@JetS_Gamer That's nonsense, they don't have to add anything beyond the B-52H which has been in service since 1962 - that's completely different than the B-52J which still has secret information.
@AmSharky-ky2kj
Ай бұрын
Well USA already has a lot of aircraft. Adding that aircraft to the UsA tech tree would make the game in-balanced as they also have to find a B.R for it. I am aware that the B-52 had a propeller prototype, but that’s not my point.
@AmSharky-ky2kj
Ай бұрын
@JetS_Gamer F-15 C got added today. Kinda irrelevant at this point.
4:42 And yet somehow there's still only a single model of B-24 Liberator in War Thunder (plus the PB4Y-2 Privateer). At a minimum, we should get the B-24J (the most-produced Liberator) and B-24M (the final production model Liberator) with their nose turrets. And probably the single-tailed XB-24N prototype, the ultimate Liberator.
@1718djh
14 күн бұрын
Maybe also an Australian B-24? (we don't really have any premium bombers)
They Directly mentioned the B-32 Dominator 🤔 So when is it coming to the game
@randommangofan5737
Ай бұрын
wait a few years till this deaf ahhh gaijiners listen to us and add’s Korea and Cold war bombers
@crazycarnut1313
Ай бұрын
@@randommangofan5737 it’s not a Cold War or Korean War bomber. They were only ever used against Japan.
@randommangofan5737
29 күн бұрын
@@crazycarnut1313 ik the thing is that it was supposed to replace the B-29 if the B-29 turned out to be a fraud what i mean is that if they are adding the B-32 to the game they could atleast add some other bombers
@crazycarnut1313
29 күн бұрын
@@randommangofan5737 ah ok that makes sense. Also I completely agree. We need better damage models and then more bombers. They’re just such interesting planes.
1:14 That's a Dutch skin for the Martin 139WC
@paulgramlich2265
Ай бұрын
Probably a hint
@yorssimp2993
Ай бұрын
Dutch subtree announced today You were right
Gaijin ıf it is possible can you add more bombers like B-36 or YB-49
Funny that Gaijin made a video about bombers when y'all are the ones who nerfed them into the ground to satisfy the dogfighters and more over destroyed their ability to actually have a purpose in life when you guys took away Enduring Confrontation, which if I may say is 💯 better than the current "Team Death match" BS we have today
B-32 next update :eyebrowraise:
First Dutch vehicle spotted! B-10B!
How yall gonna talk about bombers when you hate them and won’t fix them for us
I am literally watching this video at the national Air Force Museum, and I’ve seen all these planes in the last 30 minutes
Gaijin please either put the b-29 at either twice its spawn altitude or lower its freaking br
Just release the new trailer
The video could endure a bit more if you guys added the b52 :)
@Samtheman1251
Ай бұрын
We would need a change for the wya the games played before that
@francoarca2122
Ай бұрын
@@Samtheman1251 That's true
It would be nice if they had modeled cockpits
Please add a proximity bonas for bombers, we need escorts to survive in br5+
Question: What are the differences between the AD-4 and the A-1H?
@Thud105D
Ай бұрын
Heavier airframe, more payload options and flares for the A-1H, plus it’s .3 higher if we’re talking ingame
@1718djh
14 күн бұрын
@@Thud105Dand the toilet lol
The 25minute match limiter was the worst change ya’ll made to the game, Along with not adding additional bombers like the B-50’s, B-36, P2V’s P4M, PB4Y-2S that can carry those cool glide bombs!
im in their basement pls help they use me to power the servers running
@piolig4202
Ай бұрын
Prove it. Tell me the Basement guy's name
dev stream and teaser
you should add the b36, b50, and b52, and give bombers a slight buff, and you should also add the b1. those would make the game so much more fun.
How to fix bombers in War Thunder: move all 4.0-12.7 bombers down 1.0 BR or more, make the AI gunners useful again, make bombers spawn at 9km, fix bomber MG bullet spread, buff bomber MG spall damage, and adjust base health as needed.
@revan22
Ай бұрын
Health... In war thunder???? 20 and 30mm cannons are doing accurate damage. Plus CAS is already dominating at any tier in mixed battles. So for air battles maybe but keep them where they're at in mixed.
@Iden_in_the_Rain
Ай бұрын
@@revan22 I said bombers, as in dedicated bombers (anything with guided air-to-ground ordnance is excluded). I also did mean ARB, not GRB.
I would spend upwards of $100 if they added the B-36 or B-58 I know they have like no point in the current modes, but it would just be very cool to see it in game
Cool cool, but one question CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE B-29 AT 6.7
Make video like this for other nations of war thinder.
If they added the b52 it can single handedly carey the team gaijin of you want to add b52 put it at 12.0
@dr.amratasrivastava2284
Ай бұрын
Plz gaijin
@1718djh
14 күн бұрын
@@dr.amratasrivastava228410.3 would make more sense imo, at 12.0 it would SUFFER
Yet no mention of the B-23 Dragon, B-32 Dominator, B-50 Super(Duper)Fortress, and B-54 UltraFortress. All of which are incredibly important to US piston-engine bomber development and could be added to improve the bomber tree before moving on to jets without getting too crazy (like the B-36 would be).
You need to buff bombers man, atleast buff or make the wing spars stronger because them things are always snapping when they get hit by the smallest caliber bullet As soon as people fly in bombers they get tickled by a couple shots and the whole plane falls appart like lego bricks
I would like to see the XB-35 and YB-49 to the game which they could be added because there’s actual footage of them and were fully tested but never saw service, so if they were to be added to the game they would most likely be premium or anniversary/event vehicles or something like that.
The A20 is an absolute speed demon
When is the teaser dropping?
@lumphao
Ай бұрын
Friday
@theballingboi5360
Ай бұрын
@@lumphao they almost always come out on Wednesdays though
@hom7998
Ай бұрын
@@theballingboi5360 they always come on thursday?
@ThunDoom1116
Ай бұрын
All of you need to shut. I've heard Tuesday, I've heard Wednesday, I've heard Thursday, I've heard next week, I've heard 2 weeks on Tuesday, just wait please I don't need any more false hope. None of us do. We can only wait and see.
@wolfroze9703
Ай бұрын
6 hours ago lol
B-17 Flying Fortress my beloved, the whole reason I started playing the game
Is this a teaser for the WWII-era bombers to finally have actual cockpits?
Humvee with tow2?
Yes yes, everything amazing but, you completely destroyed the bomber gameplay with the respawninng base, the jet bomber are the worst Il28, Canberra, Voutur totaly useless, Tu4, B29, B17 why i can't destroy the airfield anymore?
I have an off-topic question, when will you add it f4G Phantom USA tre ?
Idea.....limit bomber players per game and... if I play as one b17 (just for example) I command a small formation of them and can switch between bombers like switching between squad members in enlisted. Either that or include an ai formation - because a single bomber in war thunder is pointless and just a free kill for the majority of players.
when will you guys model the insides of the bombers?
Speaking of their might, you should make them so they don’t fall apart like a cookie drenched in milk at the first sign of danger, Gaijin 🙄🙄🙄
Not even gonna touch on the TBF? It was arguably the most important naval bomber of the war. It filled so many tasks even after I was taken out of the bomber role.
Teaser when?
@Cyprez
Ай бұрын
There is a b-10 with Dutch insignias
i forgot what day i was in: how can you see and avoid the aim-9m?
@StealthCloudchaser
Ай бұрын
Pariodic flares and sudden change of directions, The seeker will not track but will remember the direction you had, For instance, If you go left, pop flares and change direction, The missile will keep on going left as long as you keep popping flares every couple of seconds.
@idontknow-iq4cj
Ай бұрын
Nahh I want the snail talk for now…
Now I will wait Gajin add S-75 Divina
Wish there was the B-36 Peacemaker in the game. :).
Add the B32 since you mentioned it
PVE SIM MODE PLEASE
B36 peace maker and B52 BUFF when Gijin? Also... bomber exclusive game mode when?
so when we getting the peacemaker? the bear? the Vulcan? come on give us somethin new here we haven't gotten any new bombers in years.
War thunder when it comes to post a youtube video or a devblog/teaser
Why does the B10B have the dutch air force triangle on it?
@topace1038
Ай бұрын
Could be some kind of hint.
We need a bomber game mode! Called "flight intercept" It could introduce a machanic that could allow the player key bind "match speed" allowing bombers to create smooth formations.
ok so since you've did a video on bombers can you at least fix them, buff them? do something with them so they aren't a waste of space in the game anymore? would be really nice
Could we get the American YB-49 and the propellor version
I have a question, where is the B-52, B-2 or even B-1?
That Dutch b-10 better be added into the new update
Can you model their cockpits please
Error spotted: B-29 was used in Europe, but only for 1 mission. Another error is the lack of B-36, 47 and 52. There's also the upgraded version of the B-29 known as the B-50. Gaijin, as the only B-36 fan there is, please fix.
why DB-7 isn't in french tech tree ?
And so giggle jiggles . .here we are yet again, a Decade later and for all the development and effort put into bombers in the real world, you still have not added turrets. I always have my eye on you . . .
B-45 tornado when?
Good stuff, Gaijin. 🫡 There are so many US bombers and strike aircraft I've been hoping will eventually be added to War Thunder. Like the B-58 Hustler, B-36 Peacemaker, B-47 Stratojet, P4M Mercator, B-50 Superfortress, B-45 Tornado, AJ Savage, A-3 Skywarrior, B-66 Destroyer, B-52 Stratofortress, B-1 Lancer, A-5 Vigilante, S-3 Viking, A-37 Dragonfly, or OV-10 Bronco. There are a bunch of specific variants for some planes we already have in-game I'd sure love to see added, too. Like the SBD-5/6 Dauntless, B-26F/G Marauder, F-84E Thunderjet, F-105B/D T-Stick II/G Thunderchief, F-111F Aardvark, A-6A/C/E SWIP Intruder, AV-8B/B+ Harrier II, or A-10C Thunderbolt II.
There’s only one super sonic bomber - with flares in Warthunder. Can you guess which tech tree it’s in?
@1718djh
14 күн бұрын
Su-22?
Any chance of us getting more bombers in war thunder? There are many bombers that have not been added and bombers have now been nerfed points affect wise to not matter in air rb. Is there any change planned for bombers to become more effective and important again, and when will we see more bomber aircraft? Bomber mains like myself have been flying them since we joined in 2013/14, and would play the game more regularly if more bombers for both the USA., Britain, USSR and China came along. Similarly when can we expect bomber cockpits in warthunder to be fully modeled? Only user made cockpits like that for the He-111 H-6 exist ingame so far.
But Gaijin..if they are so mighty, why do they fall apart so easily in your game?
Teaser?
Why can we not finish the Thor’s Hammer Challenge in Air AB, nor Air RB?
Please Gaijin all we want is the B-36 Peacemaker
These videos look awesome till you realise the grind to get you here is a second job by itself. So Aces High I guess it is till I retire in 30 yrs
When Convair B-36?
Where is the teaser gaijin?
My grate grandfather was a b24 Bombardier/ nose gunner he was part of the 36th bomb squadron which is misleading because it was the first radar jamming unit in us aviation history
sitting here still waiting patiently for submarines to be added (yes ill wallet warrior them just to use them for custom battles XD) and for Mah b-52 (which should be a premium with a max Altitude spawn just because it would need to be there to actually be able to do anything in top tiers or give them no markers on maps/player ID's so that you'd have to radar lock them or visibly see them to make them viable and again I'd wallet warrior those for customs :D )
ONE OF THE FIRST I THINK
Why are bombers in the game and at the levels they are at if you cannot win a battle by playing them?
It’s not William Mitchell, it’s Billy Mitchell
bombers are the neglected child of warthunder
alright cool give us b-36
5:22 casually committing war crimes
buff the bomber healtha and add the b52
I think gainjin is still trying to take people’s souls
Liberator is the only plane I don’t like flying I mean I can fly it in WT but it’s a chore.
CAN YOU MAKE THEM NOT DIE IN A SINGLE HIT?
B-25 Mitchell is the most flying Amerigun plane ever built.
Tu-4 to 7.3 pls
History of democracy and freedom
gaijin you cant make a vid about USA bombers without mentioning the bomber mafia. Cmon
When B-24 J ???????
Uuuuummm did you hear what he said there at the end about jets....that's a story for another time 0_0 B-52, Vulcan, Tu-95???? Not if....When!
The true voice of basement guy
Where is the B-52, F 117 nighthawk, B 1 Lancer?
@1718djh
14 күн бұрын
F-117 is probably MUCH to classified, same as the B-1.. I could see the B-52 get added tho
PLEASE NERF THE B-29'S BR. IT'S TOO HIGH AND WE'RE GETTING TAKEN DOWN BY SIDEWINDERS AND EARLY SPARROWS!
Dutch confirmed
B52, B36, AC130 gunship... Time to up the bomber game guys, you need to do something about it. 2 reasons why bombers are a pain to play: most of the time you fly alone, bombers' strength comes from numbers, so maybe have give AI companions and don't tell which are real players to the enemy. Second, AI gunners are so inaccurate and useless, but sometimes you have to pilot the plane and you can't shoot, then you die or you don't have the ability to shoot at twp different aircraft. For that, either implement a co-op mechanic in which 2-3 players team up in one plane, or buff the AI gunners. At least increase their engaging distance to at least 500 meters.
Day 22 of asking gaijin to fix custom battles to where the players br is separate from the ai’s
Groundonlybattlesplease?