Miele WCR870WPS W1 - Cottons 40°C with Powerwash 2.0
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This is the default Cottons 40° cycle as programmed from the factory (with no programmable functions such as maximum rinse level, allergy, gentle action etc). As the load is less than 6kg it performs the Powerwash Spin&Spray rhythm which saturates the washing but doesn’t tumble in a pool of water, and then recirculates any free water back into the load. It then heats only a small amount of water, which is recirculated back into the load once heated - the load also being heated simultaneously from the drum during this process. Then during the main wash cycle any loose free water in the sump is pumped back into the load. At the end of the wash it introduces more water into the load to flush away any loose dirt and fluff etc from the laundry. Although looks can be deceiving, this washes really well and with great energy efficiency - most loads washed using this process need less than 0.5kWH even for a 60° wash.
The newer version of PowerWash 2.0 as seen on this machine is a lot more sensitive to absorbent loads. Earlier versions would often wash bulky, absorbent loads using this process with poor results and leaving dry patches. As this machine has the latest version, it will correct itself from the initial load sensing phase and revert to the usual washing rhythm with more water if it detects that during the drenching process the load is absorbing too much to be effectively washed in this method. The Spin&Spray rhythm can easily be deactivated by selecting water plus or gentle action.
The detergent used in the TwinDos dispensing unit is Ariel Original liquid & Lenor Outdoorables Spring Awakening softener.
0:00:00 Load & programming
0:01:26 Programme start
0:02:05 Initial fill, automatic detergent dispensing
0:02:50 Spin & Spray load sensing
0:03:44 Spin & Spray load drenching phase
0:12:45 Setting correct water level for heating
0:14:27 Heat to 40°C
0:23:25 Heated water sprayed into the load
0:27:25 Main wash action with intermittent recirculation
0:43:20 Cold water top up (to flush away any loose dirt)
0:51:20 Wash drain & interim spin up to 1000rpm
0:56:12 Rinse 1
1:01:10 Interim spin up to 1000rpm
1:06:48 Automatic softener dispensing
1:08:10 Final rinse
1:12:56 Drain
1:14:17 Pre-spin up to 800rpm
1:16:50 Final spin up to 1600rpm
1:22:25 Finish/Anti-crease
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What it’s better in your opinion Siemens o Miele?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a difficult one. I think I’d say I like them both equally for different things, but the Siemens has the edge for quietness and rinsing/spinning efficiency
@manueljesuusr
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse and in quality? Thank you :)
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@manueljesuusr physical quality, probably the Miele with the stainless tub and cast iron weights. But the electronics and programming are more refined on the Siemens
@stevenouyang1564
3 жыл бұрын
Great clip! I have the same machine and thought the ticking noise in the beginning of a spin cycle was problematic. I gave customer service a call and they told me it’s normal. I also had a Siemens iQ500 and it never had noises like that.
@DavidTrejo
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse This was so relaxing thank you 😌
Hi, ich bin ein Fan von alten Miele Maschinen, besitze eine W2244 die ist 19 Jahre alt und grade mal 1850H auf dem Tacho. Wurde von mir auch sehr gepflegt. Ich mag die kurzen Programme bei hohen Temperaturen. Doch das ist wirklich die erste neue Miele, die mich von den Programmen und Design, sehr anspricht. Eine echt coole moderne Machine. Mir gefällt, an dem Bullauge, dass noch orangene Miele Markenzeichen. ✌🏻
hi, your trying out miele. yes. 🎉🎉🎉thank you. my local dealer has this brand.
This is a very good model 👌
Great video
Nice!
this is a washing machine not a toy with bells and whistles many others have nowadays, lg and samsung just to name the most famous and adored.
The basic setting is an extremely economical wash, declared for lightly soiled laundry. We could say: "wet" washing with evaporation. What I like is that this allows you to wash lightly used garments at 60 ° in a really smart way. The last part of the wash increases the amount of water by operating in the traditional way. In any case, the machine can be set in many different ways: gentle rhythm, traditional low level; + water with 4 levels, I don't know how many washing machines have this possibility. Maximum freedom of choice for the customer, in my opinion. One question: was the initial calibration done without detergent?
@user-lz6dm5lk9y
8 ай бұрын
Oh, come on! These washing machines are ridiculously over engineered. What ANYONE needs to know to do a load of laundry are (1) choose Normal or Delicate cycle; and, choose your water temp, either Hot, Warm, or Cold. No one needs anything more complicated than this to wash clothes, linens, etc. Miele is laughing all the way to the bank at the people who buy this ridiculous machine.
Where do you put soap powder, and how do you know how much to use? Can you chose just a basic normal wash with either hot, warm or cold water? These machines are too complicated!!
For Miele I believe chugging recirculating pumps are normal for efficiency reasons
@TheWashHouse
2 жыл бұрын
The pump “chugging” is nothing to do with energy efficiency, it’s just trapped air cavitating
Did it wash good, I mean there was no water left since water circulstion pump cannot spray almost any water onto clothes, that surprised me.
@TheWashHouse
2 жыл бұрын
With this method of washing the load is already soaked in the detergent solution, and the circulation pump just recirculates and loose water in the sump back into the machine. It tops up towards the end of the wash to flush any soiling out, once the detergent has worked on the load. It is more effective than it looks, although I usually have Gentle action programmed so it won’t do this, mainly because I feel this method of washing isn’t particularly gentle when used on the more delicate programmes.
Hello! I have bought the same model two weeks ago and on the detergent drawer it says that It has powerwash and twindos not like yours where it says it has powerwash 2.0. Is it a problem and should call Miele?
@TheWashHouse
8 ай бұрын
Not a problem at all - mines a 2018 model. They updated the drawer graphics since then but that’s all
hi. try the new 2024 Samsung Bespoke AI washer and dryer in one.
Nice vidéo! Do you prefer Miele or Lg? Thanks for your reply
I wish this was a finer spray like LG's turbowash vs just a tube of water squirting out. I think it'd have faster and more uniform saturation that way.
@TheWashHouse
Жыл бұрын
I do like the jet on those, only problem with LGs fine spray is that it has a tendency to cavitate when there is a lot of foam present
@latui7350
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse that is true. Mine does that frequently.
I have the same washing machine for 2 years and after the warranty expires it broke twindos the repair will cost about 500€
Can it wash a king size blanket?
I have noticed that my Miele at the beginning of the washing cycle does spin spray to moisten the clothes with water and soap and then evacuate the water and drink again. Do you know why it does this?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
It’s setting the correct water level for heating after it’s soaked the load with the detergent solution
@Ohkeh640
2 жыл бұрын
hi there, I have the model Miele WWD120 WCS 8kg however it has no buzzer after cycles. Is there any way to set the buzzer to go off after cycles? Also is there a way to keep the screen timer on the screen all the time instead of the screen dimming?
@franzs.3473
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ohkeh640 The WWD120 WCS unfortunately doesn't have a buzzer that sounds at the end of a cycle (you also can't set it). But the dimming of the screen you can deselect in the settings menu (it's described in the manual)
@Nik_The_Greek
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse it does this to me too, but it does it in any load I put in, even in large loads. it is supposed to do this only at medium and small loads. I wonder, does it clean as well as if it used normal water? I do not know 🤷🏻♂️
Which do you think is better: your LG washing machine or this Miele. I'm a a user of a 9 year-old Miele W1000 Home Care XL and was thinking about what I'm gonna get when I have to change it.
@TheWashHouse
Жыл бұрын
Definitely the Miele compared to the LG, although the Miele does retail for twice the price
@XxBEAST_godxXII
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHousewhy?
hi there, I have the model Miele WWD120 WCS 8kg however it has no buzzer after cycles. Is there any way to set the buzzer to go off after cycles? Also is there a way to keep the screen timer on the screen all the time instead of the screen dimming?
@TheWashHouse
2 жыл бұрын
It should tell you in the manual
6 min drain? Why?
This miele is ramps up faster
Is there a problem with it not using enough water as it's not supposed to chug when spraying. Hardly saw any spray jet during the wash part. Also I am surprised the machine did not do 3 rinses with this load automatically.
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
No, I don’t find it is really a problem - this is the way it’s designed to work, and indeed it works very well and efficiently. It runs the recirculating to pump any excess water in the sump back into the load - it’s not designed to wash in a pool of water. The load is saturated in a concentrated solution of detergent at the beginning of the cycle. It’s difficult to adjust to, but it certainly works well!
@blakaeg
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse Ah ok thanks for confirming! I had a Miele for a week and didn’t like the results, Currys was great and collected it and refunded me. Glad you like the machine and thank you for posting such great detailed videos.
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@blakaeg the earlier version of the PowerWash 2 didnt saturate the load very well and would often trigger even with full loads where now on this generation it will saturate the load fully, and if it realises it is a heavier load it will correct itself and wash with the normal amount of water :-). Glad you like the videos, I’m not able to upload or film as regularly as I’d like at the moment but I’m glad you appreciate them!
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@blakaeg also - I forgot to mention about the rinses. I find the default rinsing better than previous W2000/3000 mieles, but still lacklustre compared to BSH or even the Samsung that we briefly had. In normal use I tend to have Allergy activated which adds another default rinse on most cycles and still allows you to add up to two more with the extra rinse and Allergowash options. There is also max rinse level but I find the higher levels just cause more foaming. So, in day to day operation I have it set to 3 as standard with the option of adding a 4th.
@blakaeg
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse Yeah I still prefer the Siemens over this myself. I do love the LG, but I’ve never used a 360 one so I’m afraid I can’t speak for the one that you have, though those jets do look cool. The LG has some things I don’t like, like the noises on some spins, the very short interim spins with small loads of stupidly long interim spins with full loads and not to mention 4 hours as well, but when my LG fails one day, I’d probably buy another as I love mine (apart from the knocking noises on some spins). That Siemens is impressive too.
Mine Miele doesn't wash this way. What kind of options have activate it to spin so fast while is washing? My Miele doesn't start washing by spining at the beginind and all the way of washing cycle like yours
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
This is the standard 40 cycle. If you select water plus, intensive or gentle action it will override this sequence
@cozma75
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse oh really? Probably you are right because my washing machine is set on " water plus "
@cozma75
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse thank you for your answer, I have to do it without this option! Keep in touch!
@cozma75
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse I made the changes as you told me, I don't like this washing option because the washing machine was shaking too much and on top of that I also have the Miele tumble dryer. I prefer the washing option with the water plus and soft action options activated. However, what I blame on the Miele washing machines is the fact that the intermediate spinning starts too fast and the washing machine shakes very hard. Otherwise, the Miele washing machine washes very well!
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@cozma75 I find that the W1 isn’t very smooth when spinning either especially at how long it takes to balance. I don’t usually have it set to do this either. I have gentle action programmed in as I find the machine can be rough on laundry, and that deactivates the spin & spray phase.
Just like LG ThinQ had a top speed 1600 RPM
It's more efficient than it's supposed to be😕
Do you like the Lenor Outdoorable?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
Not really 🤣
@uwish35
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse Why not?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@uwish35 doesn’t do anything, the original lenor is much better
Wish you showed us how much detergent or powder you used :) what speed are you using here
@TheWashHouse
2 жыл бұрын
As per the description, Ariel liquid and Lenor were used
@enlilw-l2
2 жыл бұрын
Automatic detergent dispensing in this video through Twin Dos.
Hey the House habe dich abonniert ich l Kann kein Englisch bin hambuer wann kommen neue Videos von dein Waschmaschinen falls du ne neue hast als deutsche Sprache übersetzen
If you still have this washer and dryer, I'd like to see them on the default cottons cycle on both, just like this cycle shown. Same for the dryer simultaneously.
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
This is the Cottons cycle on default
@jeromedavis8575
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse What is the default cottons setting on the dryer that matches the washer?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeromedavis8575 normal
@jeromedavis8575
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse What about dryness level and temperature. I'd like to see them both (washer and matching dryer) on the default cottons settings at their factory settings simultaneously.
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeromedavis8575 the dryness level is normal and there is no temperature setting as it’s a heat pump. Unfortunately the washer and dryer don’t sit next to each other anymore so I’m unable to film them side by side but there is already a video of that on this channel
Wish my miele wwd120 mile 8kg had a power wash 50 Min option lol All the cotton programs are over 1 hour it's Insane We have 20 30 Min then everything else is even over 2 hrs lol
@lahonymanor2927
2 жыл бұрын
I do a 3 hours 45 mins on my LG with a big load and 1 your 18 mins with a small load. Long times don't bother me as I just leave it to get on with the job.
What the f... Is that!!?? From 2:39 to 1:10? h ???? And no water level in rinsing?...omg.... it's bader as my Miele
@stephenrueli
Жыл бұрын
Hey, Does PowerWash always cut the time down so much on other cycles? I have a WWH860 in the US and it only does PowerWash when I select Cold temp. Strange. Also our Cottons is called Normal. It’s the regulation cycle. It does a 20 min final spin. Anyway great video. I like how you tell us what the machine is doing in each section.
where is LG ?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@washingmachine1757
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse it wasn't the place lg was ?
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I move the machines around
@washingmachine1757
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse okay
Were is your siemens
@TheWashHouse
3 жыл бұрын
It’s in the outhouse at the moment
@oliveredwardisbullsht9107
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWashHouse I know you move the machines around