Like so many great men, Odenathus was terrible at avoiding assassination.

@EmporerAaron

5 жыл бұрын

Often, a great individual will not be ended by the many blades in the light, but a single one in the dark.

@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681

5 жыл бұрын

Great men are constantly surrounded by dozens if not hundreds of people. Aides, friends, family, supplicants, guests, messangers, allies, bureaucrats, servants and soldiers. Its easy for the bodyguards to keep everyone out, but when they have to let so many people in, they get overwhelmed. They dont know if they can trust anyone, but they cant stop them either, and they cant keep an eye on everyone. On a hunting trip, only the minimum amount of people will come to hunt, while the beaters are numerous. Bodyguards might not be present in either group, and its easy to get separated, even when trying to stay together. In the end, you choose who you trust and let close, because you are unprotected on the "inside". While at the same time, power, money, and insults are the greatest reasons for murder. Truth is nobody CAN be protected. You can reduce the risks, and you can increase the deterrant. Most murderers want to survive. But unless you live as a hermit, you cant be protected fully.

@boldblues

5 жыл бұрын

Like most men, great men are allergic to knives.

@skeletonrowdie1768

5 жыл бұрын

You mean he was great at attracting assassins

@skizzik121

4 жыл бұрын

should have been more like Mithradates and taken small stab wounds to build immunity

Fun fact, odaenathus اذينة in arabic means little ear, he was named as such because his ears were small.

@madhurawat155

Жыл бұрын

But for the Romans, this name equates grateness, bravery and patriotism.

@rexblade504

11 ай бұрын

But he wasn't Arabic so I doubt that would be the meaning then

@KnightMan69

11 ай бұрын

@@rexblade504 he was Arab hence the arabic name. His sons nsme was Wahb Allat, anotherarab word that means “ the gift of Allat” which is another arab goddess. If they were not arab why would they have arab names and worship arab gods?

@user-cp2fw3sq8k

11 ай бұрын

@@rexblade504he was Arab, he called himself The King Of The Arabs

@malegria9641

Ай бұрын

⁠@@rexblade504he was a pre-Islamic Arab, they spoke preclassical Arabic and Aramaic. His name was pronounced Udhenah in the Arabic of the time, or Udainat in Aramaic.

Okay, Odenathus is now my favourite Roman. If only his stupid nephew hadn't decided to kill him for such a strange reason

@Longshanks_

8 жыл бұрын

+IainDoc15 Your favorite Roman isn't even Roman! :P

@IainDoc15

8 жыл бұрын

Axzack Having read up a little on some of the "Roman" Romans, I'm going to stick with my choice :P

@IainDoc15

8 жыл бұрын

***** As soon as I heard that they'd gone out hunting I knew exactly what was going to happen :P When has a hunting trip ever come up in a story when the result isn't "let's murder somebody?" :P

@Longshanks_

8 жыл бұрын

IainDoc15 Good choice, that!

@popcornfilms1

8 жыл бұрын

Either way, his nephew was a bitch

6:20 never go full ck2, fucking hunting trips

@schatzkammerein

8 жыл бұрын

+Bram42 Should've had a better Intrigue Spymaster.

@1Dyermaker

8 жыл бұрын

I've lost so many heirs due to those fucking hunting trips, even one time I lost a heir to one, and the next heir died 3 years later like they didn't learn anything about it when their brother died, like what the hell?

@irvenman

8 жыл бұрын

+Julius Caesar That's why you don't give your heirs their own lands and make sure the second in line is not ambitious or married to one.

@Overhazard

8 жыл бұрын

+Bram42 Does that mean Dick Cheney was attempting to be like Odenathus's nephew?

@Mlpzeldafan011100

8 жыл бұрын

+Bram06 Rule number 1 of being a country's leader: NEVER go hunting.

Good, but... DAMN IT! I want to know more! How did Odenathus' force outmatch the Persians? What made them so powerful? Where was the Palmyrine Empire? So many questions. So little time.

@IainDoc15

8 жыл бұрын

+Yomiel Shields Palmyrene Empire was the eastern section of the Eastern Empire, it included parts of Modern Turkey, the Middle East and Egypt. Here's a map that shows the borders of the Roman Empire and its two seperatist states (Palmyrene and Gallic) www.allempires.com/article/images/map_thirdcentury.jpg

@extrahistory

8 жыл бұрын

Commenting to bump +IainDoc15's beautiful map to the top. Thanks, Iain! As for the rest of your questions, +Yomiel Shields, you know how we love encouraging people to go research things they see here and find interesting!

@jalapenoofjustice4682

8 жыл бұрын

It was Walpole.

@Kursura

8 жыл бұрын

+Yomiel Shields I've read quite a bit on the romans including this event. They state it was thanks to Palmyrine position in relation to the Sassanids advance. You see Sassanids had made a rapid advance right across the top of Palmyrine meaning they had a stretched supply line and was extremely vulnerable to an attack through the middle of there conquest, which Palmyrine was perfectly placed to exploit.

@oxis77gas

8 жыл бұрын

+IainDoc15 There was no East Roman Empire at this time, only section of Roman empire.

Sometime, one man does make the diference, and Odenathus trully did.

@johnjeffery4109

5 жыл бұрын

And Walpole too.

@pranz2984

2 жыл бұрын

Poetically beautifully

@madhurawat155

Жыл бұрын

@John C I agree with you for most part but he was *not* the forger of an empire. He was rather a faithful servant and defender of the Roman Empire. It was his wife who betrayed Rome.

@madhurawat155

Жыл бұрын

@John C I get it now, but there is an important question. Should he be considered as a Roman, or a non Roman who was simply loyal to Rome? The answer to this question will greatly effect the manner in which the Zenobia's actions should be viewed.

@madhurawat155

Жыл бұрын

@John C Till now, I used to see Zenobia in a negative light, as in being a Roman citizen who rebelled against the imperial authority in Rome. But after seeing this video and realising that the Palmyrenes technically *might* not have been Romans added a whole new layer of nuance to it.

For those who are wondering where the Admiral Yi Lies episode went, it will be coming out next week! Stay tuned!

@shikiyummy1490

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits waiting for that episode too but greeted with another interesting individual..i don't know if its not a good time but can you make episode about Khalid ibn al-Walid someday..

@dessislavailiev1630

6 жыл бұрын

Extra history can you make a video about the ancient bullgarians thanks

@no_one_here7770

6 жыл бұрын

make one about the tail of the 3 nations

Enemies on all sides. Confusion reigns. And the only man who can save the Roman Empire isn't even Roman. #ExtraHistory

@devilhunterred

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Any videos planned for Chinese history? You know, it's only the oldest continuous civilization in human history with more than 3000 years of recorded history that invented paper, gunpowder, wheelbarrow, fireworks, compass, the Art of War, silk, tea, movable print, irrigation, state bureaucracy, paper money, Confucianism, etc, etc. As a history major I'm truly appalled at how little the West or the world as a whole knows about China and its history. I believe independent series like yours should address this problem. I personally would need some extra education on Chinese history as well.

@333Trihll

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Small nitpick : you prononce "coup de grace" (hit or blow of mercy) 'koo duh grass' and not 'grah' which would mean fat in french lol (blow of fat isn't very useful, unless against diabetic soldiers)

@pantherace1000

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits could you guys do a video on the "Pigmy wars"?

@devilhunterred

8 жыл бұрын

TheSourcealpha No, what, and why

@Jaomet

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Loved this one! One of my favourites so far - Thanks :)

I praise Extra Credits for not only teaching us about such amazing things in history. But for helping us remember great heros such as Admiral Yi, and important figures such as Odenathus. As a civilization we must not allow great men such as Odenathus to fade from history, he must be remembered and his feats of bravery and leadership praised. For to forget this man, this legend is to let him die again, and to let one fade form history is to let a part of Humanity die as well. Keep the fires burning my brothers and sisters, stray not into darkness and always keep your eyes on the Horizion.

@AA-rd2se

6 жыл бұрын

Eu4 the Middle East

Amazing. Yet another pivotal link in the long chain that has lead us to all that we see before us today. History is absolutely fascinating to examine.

@therealjlil

8 жыл бұрын

History is the universe's greatest soap opera.

@irvenman

8 жыл бұрын

+Natasel History teachers (especially grades 12 and below) are actually bound by the government to teach whatever the government tells them to. So even if they want to teach things differently, they would have very little options to choose from.

@Sahuagin

8 жыл бұрын

+darkmage07070777 yeah it's like a prequel to our own present and future.

It's intriguing, how we keep coming back to the Roman Empire. How it shifts and changes over the years, decades, centuries - an epic tale spanning generation after generation. I do hope we'll learn more about it soon - though I certainly wouldn't want to neglect the rest of the world.

Awesome work guys. I've said it before, but the consistent quality of your work is unrivalled. Thumbs up :)

@Zero-0N3

5 жыл бұрын

277 or 267

@duckquack8562

4 жыл бұрын

Its sad that im not sure if this is still the case

@tristanmccaskill2388

2 жыл бұрын

Aged like milk

the crisis of the third century, dovah brought me back to the video. Zenioba doomed them all to shapur

The history of Palmyra is being destroyed. Watch the afterword to Odenathus: bit.ly/1kiAKTN

@gamerman782

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits do one about three kingdosm

@papazoulou9326

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits This is of the saddest things I watched.

@BVargas78

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Another great, vid EC.

@TheGhostbuster1989

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Its devastating what's happening in Palmyra, I hope the rest of the ruins survive

@rhemorigher

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits Is there any reason this topic was the one picked for the one episode special instead of a series? Didn't think it could get enough votes to make a series so just sneak in something cool between what the Patreons pick, or was it more that you didn't think it'd work as a full series?

Could it be a regular feature for each series to end with a little one-off episode about a subtopic? I'd definitely like that. Heck, maybe the next one could be about Zenobia.

@oliverwirth42

8 жыл бұрын

*xenophobia. is you are thinking of fear of alien/strange things.

@oliverwirth42

8 жыл бұрын

***** whoops. My bad. Thought it was a typo :)

@madhurawat155

Жыл бұрын

An honest historical video dedicated on Zenobia will piss off a lot of feminists (not if they are genuinely interested in history but you get the point right). Afterall, she was a Roman citizen of senatorial order who rebelled against the imperial authority in Rome.

So Odenathus is like Robert Baratheon. Moral if the story: Never, under any circumstances go for a hunting trip. Everything will go to sh*t if you do.

@davidmighty2343

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Andersson Sadly that was kind of the point of the hunting trips, to prove how manly and skilled you were. You see that picture of Putin horseback riding? Its like that.

@invaderzam

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Andersson I wonder if he was actually part of the inspiration for Robert Baratheon. Martin is a well known history buff and many of the events and characters of GoT are based of real historical events.

@holypaladin4657

8 жыл бұрын

+invaderzam I doubt this particular moment inspired it. In general hunting trips are a good way to get killed in a large number of ways. This shit happened all the time.

@1503nemanja

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Andersson Seriously. Nothing good ever happened while hunting and many, many bad things did. You never hear he went out hunting and found an immense cache of gold that saved the kingdom now do you? :P

@jeronimotorres1

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Andersson Hey, didn't Nobunaga and Tokugawa almost get killed on hunting trips?

*4 years later* I want a Zenobia episode now !!

@glitterboy2098

2 жыл бұрын

Zenobia and the Palmyrene Empire would make a great video, IMO.

"recover" in hindsight delving more into history as I have, it's more apt to say Aurelian was a military genius and was literally the worst person you could make enemies with.

Saids he dies in 267... Tomb stone says 277???

@julienbrightside8635

8 жыл бұрын

+lieutenantbears It was WALPOL!

@sparshkumar99

8 жыл бұрын

+Anders Hansen lol

@grassblightthechespin4389

8 жыл бұрын

+lieutenantbears But hey... Why let a 10 year difference get in the way of a good crusade?

@Overhazard

8 жыл бұрын

+lieutenantbears Clearly, he unlived on for ten more years as a zombie. Under Roman law, when a leader dies and becomes a zombie, they are no longer the leader, nor can they go out in public to avoid creeping people out. but they can still live in their palace and provide advice and suggestions for the new leader. That's how Odenathus's wife remained such a competent empress.

@davidhueso

8 жыл бұрын

+lieutenantbears Sorry ! my bad :S

Wa.... was that it? Is this just a one-off episode that's not part of a larger series?

@JohnZ117

8 жыл бұрын

+Jake Pillsbury As they said, history is not just filled with these little moments, these brief decisions, history pivots on them. Much is made of battles, but those occur after the really important choices are made. For the most part, battles bore me, it is the quiet, unassuming parts of history that catch my attention, and I am glad Extra Credits pay them attention as well.

@shadowrogue3197

8 жыл бұрын

+Jake Pillsbury It's an interesting idea for mini-one episode series.

@natansilva6180

6 жыл бұрын

It would be a series of the third century and his crisis . Just like Sengoku Jidai.

@mojotheaverage

6 жыл бұрын

Natan Silva I would love that. Any chance to hear these guys talk about Aurelian would make me very happy!

@HollowGolem

6 жыл бұрын

A shame. Zenobia and Vabalathus (whose name is hilarious to pronounce in classical Latin) do some interesting stuff with dire consequences for Palmyra shortly after the death of Odenathus.

I'm noticing that lot of people cant distinguish between "Muslim" and "Arab". Arabs didn't just appear in the levant after the Islamic conquests. They were there way before. The pre Islamic Arab kingdoms of Ghassan and Lakhmid existed in the levant and Iraq centuries before Islam. Arabs as a people in that region are native to the levant much much before.

@hossainalaufi9487

6 жыл бұрын

Also the nabeaten Kingdom (4th century BC-250 AD) later part of provincia arabia by the Romans

@mah5298

6 жыл бұрын

Yep and you can still see the Petra in Jordan that they built along with the colossal pillars in Syria and all over the Levant.

@morningmidnight9398

5 жыл бұрын

There were also the kingdom of hadra

@morningmidnight9398

5 жыл бұрын

@@ehsan_iq It is totally an Arab thing to blame yourself. But seriously the Arabs didn't view other semites as non Arabs especially the aramians and canaanites but rather viewed them as part of their larger Arab identity. Also, they didn't view older dynasties in Arabia as non Arabs which is a view that western archilogists are trying to impose.

@fieldy409

5 жыл бұрын

This is why people call bigotry agains Islam racism even though it technically isnt. Too many people don't seem to realise for some reason that arab doesnt mean muslim. You can't just look at a guy and know their religion based on their skin colour but some people are too dumb to understand.

the greatest sin and indignity humanity can impose upon itself is the destruction of the past and its cultural heritage

I think one of the most underrated figures of the late Roman Middle East was Queen Mavia.

Corrector Totius Orientis isn't quite "Righter of the east" That would be Corrector Orientis. He was called "Righter of ALL the East" Emphasis on all, because it's not necessary to say "yes the whole thing", but they did.

Who else's here after the dovahatty video?

@schoob4822

4 жыл бұрын

Zernus Wanksalot Odenathus uberchad

@nickathanas1898

4 жыл бұрын

@@schoob4822 Yeah but Zenobia was great as well

@sjgjfhs

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickathanas1898 no

@podoesljvc

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickathanas1898 no,

@JasonDoe1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickathanas1898 no

Also consider, the Persians had an organized monotheistic religion of their own, Zoroastrianism. If the East had fallen, Zoroastrianism might have become the dominate religion in Eastern Europe and North Africa. Islam was able to conquer the Persians several centuries later because the Persians had militarily exhausted themselves fighting the Eastern Roman Empire. If the East didn't exist and the west had fallen to Germanic tribes, the forces of the prophet Muhmmad wouldn't be fighting the shadow of the once great Empire, but a Persia larger and stronger than Rome at it's height. What kind of world would we live in today if it wasn't for this one guy staying loyal to Rome?

@rjfaber1991

8 жыл бұрын

+notbobby125 The Persians may have had Zoroastrianism as their state religion, but compared to dynasties before and after them, the Sassanids were actually very religiously tolerant, and there were very active and rather large Manichaeist and Nestorian Christian minorities in the Sassanid Empire. Unlike the Achaemenids or Parthians, the Sassanids also didn't seem particularly interested in state-sponsored evangelism by Zoroastrian clergy, so had the Sassanid Empire expanded to include most or all of Rome's eastern territories, there's no saying what might have happened. It's even entirely probably that with such vast, predominantly Christian, new territories under their control, Christianity in one form or another would have become the state religion of the Sassanid Empire...

@Oscar_Lasco

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Faber On the contrary the Sassanid dynasty was far more untolerant than its predecessors. It started at the very beginning (224): when Zoroastrism became a state religion. The first "king of kings" (Shapur I) had macheist and jewish friends therefore he was quite tolerant. But his Zoroastrian clergy and the next kings were not. Therefore, many persecutions against other religious communities took place and the everlasting wars against the Eastern Roman Empire intensified religious hatred toward Middle-Eastern Christians.

@occasional_doomer

8 жыл бұрын

+notbobby125 Nah. Zoroastrianism wasn't really an evangelical faith like Christianity. Missionary work did occur, but mostly outside the persian empire.

@rjfaber1991

8 жыл бұрын

Robb_Stark I'd be willing to concur the Parthians, as they are definitely a grey area, but the Achaemenids were pretty much single-handedly responsible for spreading Zoroastrianism from a minority religion in Media to the largest single religion in the Middle East at the time...

@ShadowWolfRising

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Faber regardless though, his point stands about the weakened armies and the now larger and more powerful Sassinids without this guy stopping them, Muhammad might have failed without these events occurring religiously tolerant empire or not.

Been listening to you guys for some time and I show anyone who’s interested your history informations, but after playing some Rome 2 I appreciate all of your work so much more. Great work, knowledge, and details I appreciate all you guys do.

This was a really good episode. Wish it had another part. I'd like to see one about Bactria in the future, as well.

That last question, asking how the world would be different had the Persians won, is something that bears looking into whether its in the context of the Romans or the Greeks. Historians like to go on about how we'd be deprived of Western art and philosophy had the Persians won, but that implies the Persians had none of their own. I want to know why I hear *so little* about the Persians outside of their wars with the West.

@akush42069

6 жыл бұрын

AlgaeNymph its literally impossible for the persians to ever have won the greco-persian war or against Alexander. Like even if we wanted it to happen, it wouldn't happen

@MrMarinus18

5 жыл бұрын

The thing is middle eastern Christianity did eventually fall to the Muslims and at the time of Odnavous Christianity was already well established in the west. I don't think the Persians would have pushed much further than the Taurus mountains.

@KasumiRINA

4 жыл бұрын

We would have Persian popes instead of Italian gypsy ones. Big deal.

this kind of content and channels are the bread and butter of KZread, keep up the amazing work guys. DFTBA

@robrod7120

8 жыл бұрын

I love the KZread community when it comes to vids and comments like this. DFTBA

@cactuarlol8288

8 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what DFTBA means.

@smortg

8 жыл бұрын

+CactuarLOL DFTBA, brah. If we lose our awesomeness we're just ness - and he's not even relevant outside of Smash Bros anymore

@ElevatorEleven

8 жыл бұрын

+CactuarLOL "Don't Forget To Be Awesome", a catchphrase of the Crash Course channel, another excellent learning youtube channel, and of John Green's, Crash Course's original host.

@Hailstormful

8 жыл бұрын

+Connor Miclette More like the caviar of youtube if you ask me...

just wanted to say thanks for the history videos. There are to things I really love, one you hit a perfect trifecta of not too long in-depth and off the beaten path of history lectures. also it is something both me and my kids enjoy watching again thank you.

Guys your work with history is just awesome, i love that you tackle people and events and history that not a lot of people have heard about but definitely should have! Maybe we can't free Palmyra but at least we can learn about how the city was, what great people inhabited it, they can erase the buildings but can't erase history!

This is like luxembourg saving france during the blitz in HOI4

@azelfdaboi5265

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@jackal25301

Жыл бұрын

not really syria . egypt and afriquia were the richest provences of the roman empire syria was 10× richer than any european province of the roman empire at that time

It's 2021 and Zenobia still wasn't gotten her own episode. Oh well at least she got some screen time in the second episode of the third century crisis.

These hinges always gives me chills

I think you deserve your own TV-show in prime time :D Seriously, this episode is just really amazin again!

His name isn't pronounced as odenathus. It's pronounced as Uthayna which literally means small ear. Also his son's name ( Vahballathus) is pronounced as Wahb-Allat which means in Arabic the gift of Allat.

Way to go Mate! What ISIS's been doing these last few months broke my heart, hear your words it's like the city somehow lives a little longer again. What a giant freaking atrocity man.

@KasumiRINA

4 жыл бұрын

and all of that to keep a dictator Assad in power... russia should be destroyed. Hopefully Turkey helps us achieving moscovia delenda est!

@dorkfish1275

3 жыл бұрын

@@KasumiRINA oh sure blame assad and russia, who are completely innocent, for the actions of ISIS, oh sure that makes sense, do you also think saudi arabia's a benevolent monarchy? just asking.

I really like the one off episode format. I think they're a nice change of pace from the more long-form stories like Yi and especially the Sengoku Jidai episodes. Not that those were boring, far from it, but things like this are pretty great for giving us little snippets of history, like a little intermission between the larger story-lines.

this serie, man, you people are really good ! Thanks :)

No lies episode for Admiral Yi?

@extrahistory

8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Wilson Next week!

@ThePooper3000

8 жыл бұрын

+Extra Credits A week? A WEEK?! I'm not even sure if I'll still be alive in a week!

@Ellial

8 жыл бұрын

+ThePooper3000 why so?

@ThePooper3000

8 жыл бұрын

Rando Walru Cheetos and Mountain Dew overdose, that's why.

@joelandersson2629

8 жыл бұрын

+S. I. V. Wait a minute... lol I see what you did there. Good one.

Can you do an episode on the rivalry/friendship between uesugi kenshin and takeda shingen? Its something which doesnt get as much attention as i think it should.

Now you've covered all my favorite part of Roman history

Wow. Such an interesting bit of history that I've never even heard of.

Can you do a video on the Reconquista?

Ah DUX ROMANORUM Septimius Odaenathus, the "Ghost in the Desert", my favorite roman character. Despite all his faults, he remembers more a legendary king of tales and sagas rather a real person. The kind of person that only appears once for a century and help shape the entire world for ever. AVE REX REGNUM!

I love that this is a weekly series :)

I thoroughly enjoy the pictures from all these videos.

Wow. Dovahatty has a much different take on this

@richardnixon2445

4 жыл бұрын

Odenauthus was still a chad tho

Well if Odanathus's blood ruled, Syria would have become a super power for sure.

@michelsindaha

5 жыл бұрын

God I wish, had he not died I believe the whole course of modern history would've been different.

Wow! I would have never known without this! thanks so much guys!

WOW this episode was amazing!!! SInce your focus is so borad, and bring to common knowledge such lost or little known historical events, I would like to recomend to make an episode on the Tang Dynasty in China, the wealthiest and most developed empire in pre-modern history, and a coment on the Battle of Talas, where they engaged in battle with the Abassid Caliphate.

odenathus اذينة small ear in arabic

@MalaKrekar

6 жыл бұрын

Krimo krimovitch they spoke in aramean and greek not arabic

@MalaKrekar

6 жыл бұрын

And small ear in arabic is pronounced as azinat

@mohamedkabha6861

5 жыл бұрын

@@MalaKrekar Armanen and Arabia were a lot alike and arabs and Armenians were a like too in this time

@mohamedkabha6861

5 жыл бұрын

@@MalaKrekar also no Azeynah is thd right prounction

@MalaKrekar

5 жыл бұрын

Arabs and Arameans are from the same family so they are related but calling Arameans Arabs is like calling Afghanis Kurds

well, sadly you can always count and capitalize on the older than the sun deep hate and rivalry between the Persian and the Arabs.

Great video! Very informative!

You guys always do amazing work. Keep it up 👍👍👍 Also, if you guys make episodes on both Shapur I and Zenobia, that would be great. Both are very interesting historical figures.

On 6:05, the narrator says 267, but the sign says 277. Which is correct?

@finalninjazero5140

8 жыл бұрын

42

@axl4218

8 жыл бұрын

+Final Ninja Zero 0 ;)

@mericarslan2497

8 жыл бұрын

+dzarko55 267

@Crossaix

8 жыл бұрын

+dzarko55 I'm pretty sure it's 267, though I'm not 100% certain.

@Conflict-ff5pi

8 жыл бұрын

+dzarko55 267 according to a quick google search.

Part 345: Palmyra falls to ISIS

@doopboop8359

5 жыл бұрын

Part 346 murica slapped some freedom into isis and palmyra's oil

good episode and conclusion, worthy of a rewatch, since I forgot whether I've seen it already

Yessss, time to feast on the delightful banquet that is Extra History

Person: No lies for Yi? Extra Credits: Next week! [One week later] Person: Still no lies for Yi? Extra Credits: Tomorrow! [One Day Later] Person: Where are the lies for Yi?! Extra Credits: Its uploaded! Person: Where is it? Extra Credits: I said it was uploaded, not published!

Much as I love this minisode, I fear the comments may turn into a flame war about religion...

@ShadowWolfRising

8 жыл бұрын

+Caz actually i see less arguing about religion, and more 'Fuck ISIS' then anything else. which let's be honest, we can all agree with that sentiment.

You guys need to do an episode or series on the beginning of the sui dynasty in golden age China I'm working on a project that involves this and you guys really help me understand history love your videos keep going

bravo, you guys are really amazing.

Valerian? Is he a Targaryen by any chance? (Please someone get the reference)

@Ex0dus111

8 жыл бұрын

+kwadwo baidoo Really? The most popular television show of our time, and you think people are not going to get THAT reference?

@davidking6242

8 жыл бұрын

Ex0dus111 good point 😂

@davidking6242

8 жыл бұрын

+John von Shepard he is dead but he will come back

+extra credits I would love for you to do more on the history of the Levant and Mesopotamia this is my heritage! however you made a small error: You called Odenathus an Arabian prince when the ethnicity of the people of the Levant was not Arab. Only through the mixing that came with the expansion of the Muslim empire in the south did the people of the Levant eventually become associated with the Arab ethnicity.

@msadaldin

8 жыл бұрын

Hmmm as per wikipedia: "The origin of the family is Aramean,[18] while the king himself appears to be of mixed Aramean and Arab descent;" I guess we're both right

@salahkh3040

3 жыл бұрын

he was a syrian

Cool, it's funny btw that the Hardcore History podcast just uploaded the King of Kings episode talking about the same region not the same people but mainly focused on the Asyrians still very cool to learn more about the region.

Interesting to see how a single moment in a far away desert had changed world history. Good job on the video extra credit :)

So Syrians saved Christianity and Europe?! quite ironic lol

@user-kd7kr1zu8x

6 жыл бұрын

the general (governor of Palmyra; Odenathus) was Syrian, not Arab. People of the Levant at the time were more Greek than anything up till the 7th century. Modern Syrians are considered Arabs, because they share the language, culture, and mostly a religion affiliated with Arabs, like other non Arabian peninsula "Arab" people.

@user-kd7kr1zu8x

6 жыл бұрын

ehsan_iq all you did was mentioning a bunch of kingdoms and short lived dynasties in Southern modern day Jordan, which is just the northern part of Arabian desert. You say that Syrians and all other “non Arabian peninsula “Arabs”” are of Arab descent, while in fact they have traces of Arabian ancestry just like they have traces of Greek, Italian, Egyptian(yes it’s own thing), Sub Saharan African, German and Persian from N.Africa to M.E. It’s all for the same reason, people come and leave their mark, then the next ones do the same over and over. And what I said was they were more Greek AT THE TIME because their culture and genetics were dominated by the Greek one and they’ve been mixing with Greeks and Romans for 400+ years just look at the dude’s name, it sure as hell don’t sound Arabic to me, and save me your crap about Nabateans and what not, Syria was in Greek hands since Alexander T.G. Then Romans came and took over till Islam in the 7th century, that’s a millennium of Greco-Roman mixing and culture. You don’t even know what you’re talking about.. Sad!

@MalaKrekar

6 жыл бұрын

ehsan_iq all u did waa mention arabian kingdoms from the arabian peninsula u haven't proven anything , the arabs are native to the arabian peninsula not Mesopotamia like the palmyrans ,assyrians ,Babylonians ,etc

@MalaKrekar

6 жыл бұрын

Dovahkiin Iq no they aren't

@mohamedkabha6861

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-kd7kr1zu8x He was an arab. the palamries were an arab tribe that came to settle those lands way before, Mesopotamia is arab land even the sumarian origins are what we now call qatar and uae, they speak of this plaxe as a holy land and their origin

And today Palmyra is destroyed by ISIS...

@TheKeyser94

8 жыл бұрын

+SoulRippster All that thanks to Christianity.

@SoulRippster

8 жыл бұрын

+TheKeyser94 Although I'm an atheist and despise any Abrahamic religion... I'll bite, why Christianity?

@TheKeyser94

8 жыл бұрын

SoulRippster Without the Christianity it wouldn't exist monotheistic Islam. Where you think that Muhammed take the idea of making the Islam monotheistic?

@SoulRippster

8 жыл бұрын

+TheKeyser94 So you mean Judaism, not Christianity. And before that Zoroastrianism.

@TheKeyser94

8 жыл бұрын

SoulRippster Ha, yes, I forgot about that, one things lead to another.

Great episode!

Nice episode, I knew about Zenobia but I never knew the context of her creating her empire.

And if the Byzantines hadn't weakened the Sassanids in the 7th century, the new Islamic empire wouldn't have taken over the Sassanids and we probably wouldn't have a powerful islam

Fantastic! I love this show so much!

I'm addicted to these videos.

Great vid!

Oooo, desert ghost armies! Sounds kinda badass. Reminds me of the nomadic cultures in games, like the Roving Clans in Endless Legend or the Luxons in Guild Wars 1: Factions. Love those kinds of factions in games too, I find them so aesthetically interesting, they just roam (or had roamed) the world on the backs of huge animals. Makes me wonder if there will be an episode about creative writing for cultures or societies in games and what some bad examples are. Would be kinda nifty to hear how and what a person must consider when making the world of like, say, Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Poetic as always.

0:50 That pointy stick though

Loving the new interface!!

History is very inspirational isn't it? Great video! :-D

Awesome little (I'm guessing) one off. What's next? Can't wait!

Extra history is what society needs. FIrst time commenter- Please, keep up the brilliant work EC crew! You're efforts and public service are appreciated and valuable. Thank you!

Odenathus was a very important figure, and yes, the Palmyrene Empire deserves more time. Zenobia and the Roman Emperor at the time, Aurelian, should be the next EH episode. Their story is phoenominal.

Short on details, but I like this lil' quick hit.

I love this show.

That empress looks cool i would love that episode

This is too awesome! I'm sad about Palmyra

That intro music though mmmmmm so sweet

I love these videos, I remember the first time I watched this was during my history class last year durning the second punic war subject. Great work guys, great work. (Insert stupid emoji here)

This gave me chill

Thanks for another interesting history lesson :3 why is school so boring but extra history so cool?

I love this channel

By far one of my favourite shows on KZread. You guys deserve more views. Your videos are way better than most of the trash airing on history chanel!

You should make a video on heraclius of the eastern roman empire. Truely a turning point in the world.

Actraiser.. took me a moment. Cool videos

Good episode and I really did learn a lot about this guy as a result of it. I do, however, have one question. Why did you decide to make this a one shot video? with all the stuff you talked about in this one video, you easily could have made it a 3-4 video series.

This is Awesome

I really hope there are more of these small episodes about important parts of history that don't merit big serials

0:43 "Come to deliver the *coup de gras*" LOL