Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S vs Michelin Pilot Super Sport

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We tried to make a 5 minute video to explain the differences between the new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, and it's older brother the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Sadly we failed, and this video is 9 minutes. If you're not a tyre geek, but are curious about the differences between the two tyres, feel free to skip to the conclusion at 6:10 as that covers most of it.
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  • @supercarsoflondon
    @supercarsoflondon7 жыл бұрын

    Sick video dude! Very informative with lots of stats that I'll try and get my head round haha

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Paul, appreciated. Look forward to working together in the future!

  • @goatee01

    @goatee01

    7 жыл бұрын

    Good suggestion/plug. Came here thanks to exhaust experts ep4

  • @DroneNovice

    @DroneNovice

    6 жыл бұрын

    You should try them out on your Merc @SOL - Supercars of London

  • @manof2wheels947

    @manof2wheels947

    6 жыл бұрын

    SOL - Supercars of London I

  • @floflorian6085
    @floflorian60857 жыл бұрын

    Yes please ! More tyre tests would be great. A lot of people don't understand the importance of good tyres (or tires for the Americans), so it's worth educating people more on this topic.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! We're working on a number of videos this year covering all aspects of tyres :) Subscribe to keep up to date :)

  • @davidl2050
    @davidl20506 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, I love actual reviews that do comparisons. Not a "I tested the tire and it's great", which doesn't mean anything. Having actual similar cars, and back to back testing is amazing, and not seen much these days. Kudos to Tyre Reviews, you got me subscribed!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words :) Back to back testing is a lot of fun!

  • @matthewzuber9823
    @matthewzuber98233 жыл бұрын

    This helped me out a lot! My Focus RS came with Pilot Super Sports and when in doubt, go with the same tire. But now that you produced a direct side by side comparison I am more informed and now know, with confidence, that the PS4S is the upgraded tire. Thank you very much! and thank you to the companies and manufactures that invite "Tyre Reviews" to review and quantify tires.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me know how you find the swap!

  • @taforth
    @taforth6 жыл бұрын

    Love the detailed analysis of your review. You really nail down the pros/cons instead of the more common ‘hand waving’ of other reviewers 😉. Keep it up!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, appreciated :)

  • @cmbdds
    @cmbdds7 жыл бұрын

    Great video! This helped me a lot with my decision making. After watching, I've decided to go with the PS4Ss for my M4.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Let me know how you get on :)

  • @Gibbo205
    @Gibbo2057 жыл бұрын

    Jon fantastic video and thank you for all your help with getting specific information from Michelin. I've being a long fan on the MPSS since fitting to my 911 where it offered more or less cup levels of grip in the dry but was also superb in the wet and on my 911 they lasted 2-3x longer than any other tyre I had tried previously on track and road. Just fitted the 4S today to the rear and though it is way to early to give performance data the first and immediate thing I noticed over the worn MPSS was NVH and road noise significantly reduced. A thumbs up and subscription from me! :)

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    No problem Gibbo, glad you got there in the end. Keep us updated with your thoughts as the tyres bed in and you get more miles on them :)

  • @mqandil
    @mqandil7 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video. Well done. What really impressed me, is the honesty & objectivity. Look forward to more videos from you. And yes we would love to see video(s) comparing mpss/mp4s/mp Cup2/conti sport contact 6. It will be an instant hit, especially with people like myself who owns many Porsches with mpss & cup2 & P zero & MPA4 tires. It will be also great to see videos of tire reviews of same or comparable (ultra high performance) tires but at lower temperatures (e.g 33F to 49F) in both dry & wet conditions. Many owners of exotic or sport cars still drive their cars with these ultra high performance tires at these lower temperatures if they live in areas where it does not normally snow, but only very few of these tires perform reasonably OK under such conditions. Again geat job and please keep them coming. Mark

  • @jf8974
    @jf89747 жыл бұрын

    Very well put together, I am currently running the pss on my a4 Quattro it's streets ahead of the conti sc3 my car came with from Audi, given how good the pss is I will have my eye on the new ps4s for sure. So far the tread wear on the pss is outstanding they are so much better than Continentals.

  • @arnoldceasar1598
    @arnoldceasar15986 жыл бұрын

    Just stumbled upon your channel. Very well done, covering many aspects of tyres that enthusiasts care about. Don't worry about being long in run time. Personally I prefer more detailed info over less. I'm also happy to hear you compare directly with other brands in a review. Keep up the good work!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's fortunate as I've just finished a 16 minute edit that should be going live tomorrow :)

  • @alex2016g
    @alex2016g7 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys and a great addition to your website!

  • @scottishracer
    @scottishracer3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your excellent review. Exactly what I need to make a decision, 4S shoes will be on my F80 M3 very soon.

  • @JimBean365
    @JimBean3655 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great explanation. I have the super sports on my S3 now and love them but now I am looking for new tires and really just need a good everyday tire. The 4S looks like it might be my next tire I am just not ready to spend a 1000 dollars again.

  • @BobO-zo2bi
    @BobO-zo2bi5 жыл бұрын

    I love these PS4s tires. And I’ll admit, I bought them mostly for the looks 😂

  • @pavlospilakoutas

    @pavlospilakoutas

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where did u buy them from? Cant seem to find any available. I read they come at 285/35/18 but cant find any

  • @AG-xt6ei

    @AG-xt6ei

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pavlos Pilakoutas same issue Apparently they are no longer in production I waited a month at bjs before they figured that out. I went to a local tire shop yesterday who said they had them and i could get them next day. When i came to the shop it was the pilot sport a/s 3+. After making a fuss i just said eff it and got them, i cant be bothered with this anymore. Also they are $200 cheaper and all season vs summer.

  • @pavlospilakoutas

    @pavlospilakoutas

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AG-xt6ei i have ps3 now, and most likely will go for the super sport model. Used to have the pirelli p zero before, cant remember the models in front and back, rosso something, but michelin are top notch. For me that is.

  • @rodpaine7552

    @rodpaine7552

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AG-xt6ei I hope your A/S3+ have served you well. We put them on our 2019 RS 3 in 245/40;/18 size using new 18x8.5 alloy wheels, now at 12,978 fast back roads use, 5,047 local driving and they have performed very well. Clearly superior to the factory Pirelli 235/35/19 original configuration. Will replace shortly with Michelin A/S 4S soon as the A/S3+ have been discontinued.

  • @Gave-rf1hr

    @Gave-rf1hr

    3 ай бұрын

    How long did they lasted

  • @jorgequirante-diaz350
    @jorgequirante-diaz3507 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Tire Technician and I'm around tires everyday. I've learned a lot in the 3 years that I've been in the field. I currently have the PSS on my vehicle and there a night and day difference compared to other UHP tires out there. I'm really excited to put the PS4S on my ride as soon as they become available at my shop. Thank you for the video!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jorge Quirante look forward to hearing how you find them!

  • @bbartlow0307
    @bbartlow03075 жыл бұрын

    Impressively detailed... the kind of approach us tiregeeks appreciate. Many many thanks.

  • @stefstef4895
    @stefstef48957 жыл бұрын

    once again a truly informative video, thank you. would be great if there were charts depicting the results. looking forward to the next video

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Stef Stef thank you :) the plan for the PSS VS PS4S VS PSCup2 currently involves a lot of objective data collection on track, which means there should be plenty of graphs in the video :)

  • @DOCRUZ85
    @DOCRUZ857 жыл бұрын

    EXTREMELY HELPFUL REVIEW! Thank you, just went with the 4s for my BBS FI-R

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great news, let me know how you get on :)

  • @speeddemon002

    @speeddemon002

    3 жыл бұрын

    No these ps4s are something else... not all tires are the same!

  • @AK-jv3hv
    @AK-jv3hv7 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and really useful to get your comparison Many Thanks

  • @andrewharris883
    @andrewharris8834 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. It was exactly the information I needed. Just a little more wet grip is just the ticket. I ran Continental's last year. Super grip, as long as they had at least a little contact with tarmac. LOL, then things got a little unpredictable.

  • @jpadicecoffee9812
    @jpadicecoffee98127 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video. Yes, I would too like to see a test between the PSS, P4s and P Cup. I am glad to go smoke the P4s this weekend ...

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    +JpadIceCoffee subscribe and you'll see :)

  • @thelogbookcc
    @thelogbookcc7 жыл бұрын

    VERY helpful and informative video, thank you. I even signed into my phone to find it again so I could 'thumbs up' it! I will be investing in a set of these for my C63, a car which would benefit hugely from some better RW grip! Thanks again. Subscribed.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    R08Z1 thanks, really appreciated! Be sure to let us know how you get on with them, they'll be a great match for an awesome car like the c63!

  • @randysiggers5332
    @randysiggers53323 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I just replaced my PSS with PS4s on my RCF. I was up in the air worrying that the 4S would be more of an all-season tire (I.E. boring and less dry grip) than the PSS. Clearly, that's not the case. Cheers!

  • @BrinkofSpeed
    @BrinkofSpeed6 жыл бұрын

    Great review, I have MPS 4’s on my 650hp Z06 and love them!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying them :)

  • @seba911er
    @seba911er4 жыл бұрын

    First of all thanks for this channel! Its amazing! I would still have a question. I drive a bmw m140i and would like to change the tyres to 235 front and rear with 4s or 245 front and rear with pss. Would the wider tyres still perform better even if the 4s is the better tyres or would you recommend the smaller tyres but 4s? Thanks a lot and best wishes from Germany

  • @Kasteel85
    @Kasteel857 жыл бұрын

    would like a track test between MPSS/MP4S/CUP2, to see how close the tyres are on track (have the MPSS on daily wheels, the CUP2 on trackset).

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    We're doing our best to make it happen!

  • @Kasteel85

    @Kasteel85

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tyre Reviews cool! :)

  • @Ghosn

    @Ghosn

    7 жыл бұрын

    And road too please. A lost of us don't track but still want an ultra sticky tire for dry road use.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    We'll try our best! :)

  • @kdkd693

    @kdkd693

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had same combo on my A45. PSS daily and Cup2 for track. The Cup2 as a daily did not last (about 50% of the longevity, not surprising as they start off with less tread depth), The Cup2 were worth just over a second on track, but did aquaplane earlier on a wet track (but were still ok in wet with the awd assistance compared to the pussies in their Porsche’s)

  • @tpmbe
    @tpmbe3 жыл бұрын

    excellent thank you, be good to see the Cup vs PSS vs 4S on track in your other video now...Cheers

  • @christalbott9849
    @christalbott98496 жыл бұрын

    Very good review. Great website too. Just fitted MPSS to my 335d F31 m sport (would've gone with the PS4S but am on 18" Wheels), replaced the awful S001 run flats, drives like a different car. Never will I have run flats again. Absolutely love the car now, has made a huge difference!! Hopefully Michelin will release a star marked PS4S for 18" wheels befroe my MPSS need replacing. It really is very important to get tyre selection right if you're even slightly enthusiastic about driving.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying them :) They wear so well by the time you need to replace them, the PS5S might be on the market!

  • @Londongal76
    @Londongal767 жыл бұрын

    Thanks - great video,really informative and I'm now off to buy some PS4S for the M3! Looking forward to better wet grip.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Let us know how you get on!

  • @totom5095
    @totom5095 Жыл бұрын

    Can not get a better tyre review 👍

  • @brandonchism6960
    @brandonchism69607 жыл бұрын

    Great vid, just completed my order.

  • @joshuadoliveiro
    @joshuadoliveiro7 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, I'm sure you guys have limited time and resources for reviews but if you ever have the opportunity, please start reviewing a wider range of performance tyres, in terms of price range and brands (e.g. Bridgestone, Yokohama, other lesser known brands). You guys put out great reviews that I'm sure an increasing number of people want to watch and covering a wide range of performance tyres will make it relevant to lots of people with many types of cars. Thank, great job, guys.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Joshua D'Oliveiro thank you for the kind words! We're working towards a number of interesting videos this year so be sure to subscribe to keep up to date with the latest content. They won't all be as long and as boring as this one!

  • @TTGT2000
    @TTGT20004 жыл бұрын

    great review, moved from supersport and got my 4S set and they rock...

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! If you get some time feel free to leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com :)

  • @techevo
    @techevo7 жыл бұрын

    Great review, thanks for taking the time and effort to film for us.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Clive Walpole thank you for your kind comment, be sure to subscribe for more in the future :)

  • @techevo

    @techevo

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tyre Reviews - Yes, I have subscribed. It was refreshing to listen to a tyre review from someone who actually understands tyre and car dynamics, a rare thing indeed! I run Supersports and Cup 2's on different cars, and I'm looking forward to using a new set of PS4S.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Clive Walpole be sure to let us know how you get on :)

  • @mas921
    @mas9217 жыл бұрын

    Great video exactly what I was looking for

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    +mas921 glad you enjoyed it!

  • @larryhernandez5062
    @larryhernandez50624 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review . . . . Informative

  • @ruffinoluther2578
    @ruffinoluther25785 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video Sir. I have made decision to put PS 4S in my new wheels after watching this. Thank you so much.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get, let me know how you get on :)

  • @Dave-pv1qr
    @Dave-pv1qr7 жыл бұрын

    Great review, thanks. I've only recently (Oct 2016) bought a set of PSS ( to replace Bridgestone 050's) for my rather lowly Mondeo Titanium X Sport, but they are such an improvement. I've only used them for just over a month before switching to my winter wheels/tyres, so I think by the time I replace the PSS, the PS4 will have been superseded possibly?...but certainly looks promising for the future anyway.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Frembrit Nez the PSS was on the market for 4 years before the launch of the PS4S, so it depends on how many miles you do. Either way, we're excited at the thought of the PS5S (or whatever Michelin decide to name it!)

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac1084 жыл бұрын

    I replaced the Bridgestone Potenza S007s that were the OEM tire on my Nissan 370Z sport coupe 6M with a set of these PS4Ss and I noticed that the steering feels vaguer and less precise than the with the Potenzas. It seems to me as if the sidewalls of the Michelins are less stiff and are geared towards higher levels of comfort and less noise. Do you get a similar impression with these tires in comparison to other Max Performance tires?

  • @Dr.BasimAyoub
    @Dr.BasimAyoub7 жыл бұрын

    Great review , Thanks

  • @Gilamang
    @Gilamang6 жыл бұрын

    Really excellent work here.

  • @LS-gv7pn
    @LS-gv7pn6 жыл бұрын

    Great driving skills, I've always believed the top tyre manufacturers improve their products yearly and is some of the most up-to-date "tech" available to the auto consumer

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    The premium manufacturers definitely have the most tech in their tyres. Michelin spend over one million euros per day in R&D alone!

  • @davec7051
    @davec70513 жыл бұрын

    Great review thanks! My E92 CP M3 had 4S' fitted and when I upgraded to my F82 CP M4 which had SS I couldn't believe the reduced wet weather performance! Add that to the massive increase in low down torque with the (lovely) M4, I can't wait to replace the SS with a nice set of 4S.....

  • @GG-hd8rr

    @GG-hd8rr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reduced with 4s or ss ?

  • @kylesmith9048

    @kylesmith9048

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GG-hd8rr I believe he’s saying the SS performed worse in wet weather, which is a common point made when comparing the two tires. I’ve never owned SS but I’ve had multiple sets of PS4S and they do perform exceptionally well in the wet.

  • @rjs15570
    @rjs155707 жыл бұрын

    nice work on this episode.very good info.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @iamsadam
    @iamsadam7 жыл бұрын

    Great review. looking forward to testing the pss4. most tests have been done on the smaller high performance car m3. would really like to see a tyre a review on the bigger cars. m5 v10 /v8, rs6 v10 /v8 and e63

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    iamsadam no problem... If you happen to have an rs6 you can lend us we'll do a review straight away :)

  • @BP-fx3qc
    @BP-fx3qc5 жыл бұрын

    Will be running pilot sport 4s on my sti this summer. Got em in my garage cant wait to put em on. Great looking tire too!

  • @Madvillian

    @Madvillian

    5 жыл бұрын

    getting ready to get a new set of rims and these tires for mine

  • @BP-fx3qc

    @BP-fx3qc

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Madvillian nice! 18x8.5 +55 offset seems to be a good size to clear the calipers and all that. I have an appointment at the dealer may 11th to swap my tires out. Its still a bit cold up here in nj

  • @tbone1493
    @tbone14937 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, just ordered a set for my M2 to replace the Conti's that came with it.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    T Bone let us know how you find them :)

  • @davec7051
    @davec70517 жыл бұрын

    Thanks great video very informative 👍

  • @thebossisheretostay
    @thebossisheretostay6 жыл бұрын

    forgive me if you have done this video. I think it could be interesting looking at retro tires, and perhaps cars that had dedicated tires for that are no longer in production, or newer versions have come out. Im thinking e-type/911 regarding the first video and clio v6 regarding the second. Have learnt a lot from your videos. Always honest and informative.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add it to the list :)

  • @davis7323
    @davis73233 жыл бұрын

    I did not skip the video to 6:10, great video!! I'm debating on Pilot 4S vs Continental Extremecontact sport

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me know what you decide!

  • @larryhernandez5062
    @larryhernandez50625 жыл бұрын

    Love Your Videos . . . Always Informative . Thanks

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @sAmiZZle82
    @sAmiZZle822 жыл бұрын

    I have an M140i and the PS4S is not available in Australia in the stock 18 inch rim sizes. What is the best alternative currently to replace the MPSS as I really don't like the cold & wet handling of this tyre?

  • @urgetodrive
    @urgetodrive5 жыл бұрын

    They do look great - glad I'm not the only one who thought so! I just had a set of 4s put on my S65 AMG. Funny thing was the tire shop "accidentally" put Super Sports on the front...I'll bet they weren't expecting me to notice.

  • @velocity2654
    @velocity26547 жыл бұрын

    I was reading the 4S specifications provided by Michelin and compared them to the PSS specifications. It appears that the tread width is significantly wider on the PSS over the 4S. It appears that a 275 section width 4S is about the same width as a 255 section width PSS. Certainly narrower than a 265 PSS. Did any of your measurements/observations detect this change?

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    There's a variance allowed in each size bracket, Michelin assured us the PS4S is within the allowance. The PS4S 255/35 R19 front on the M3 rubs slightly, where the PSS / CPC6 didn't. This could be down to the sidewall profile, or shoulder width / profile!

  • @Fastfishracing
    @Fastfishracing7 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! Another vote for a comparison between MPSS, 4S and Cup2's on road and track please! :)

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Fastfishracing already working on it :)

  • @mrbbs
    @mrbbs7 жыл бұрын

    Great video on this subject, and one of the first ones which is very informative with lots of detail! I'm having the PSS on my GT86 and it's incredible. Shame for me is that manufacturers put more resources in larger sizes nowadays. 18" is already something of the past. Now 19-20" are the benchmark tires. One question to the car manufacturers: is this really necessary? For the next gen cars you have 18" for the Fiesta ST, 19" for the Mégane RS and now 20" on a Civic Type-R. For me 17" is correct size for a Fiesta and 18" is for a Focus RS, Mégane RS or Civic Type-R. For the car enthusiast 19-20" is not payable. Certainly if you do 5-10000 kilometers with a set of tires. Maybe an idea for a next video to discuss that matter. Keep on doing these video's. It's an asset on KZread!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words, really appreciated. We are in the process of planning a 17 vs 18 vs 19 inch test, so keep an eye on the channel :) We agree the PS4S should be in 18", and while it isn't yet, that's not to say it won't be in the future. The tyre manufacturers will react to the demand of the market, and there's so much interest in an 18" PS4S in Europe, lets see what happens in 2018 :) Fingers crossed!

  • @alpinab14
    @alpinab147 жыл бұрын

    absolutely need a Pilot Sport 4 S vs pilot sport 4 vid please , my biggest problem with tyres these days is soft side walls , totally hate them some are frankly shocking and completely ruin all driving dynamics , i just dont get how some manufactures can make the sidewalls so dam soft on some tyres , look forward to the next vid thanks

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's an issue with the label demands and OE requirements. Nearly all OE manufacturers are calling for quieter more comfortable tyres, and the label rolling resistance grade requires a low rolling resistance. This means manufacturers are taking material and strength out of the sidewalls. As noted in the video, the PS4S is ever so slightly softer than the PSS. The next step in Michelin would be the PSCup2. Manufacturers who don't score as well on comfort can sometimes give you improved steering feel, such as the Yokohama V105

  • @benpalmer7803
    @benpalmer78036 жыл бұрын

    Sweet video man really useful info 👌

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @howierader8917
    @howierader89177 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered a set of the Michelin pilot super sports not the 4S today, 5/1/2017. Hoping a decent tire for my Mustang GT! Great vid and new subscriber!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and enjoy the tyres :)

  • @cazzaparrphysique

    @cazzaparrphysique

    6 жыл бұрын

    how did you find them? I can't afford the 4S so I'm tempted by the SS

  • @eas5666
    @eas56667 жыл бұрын

    Just curios about the wear rates between the PS4s and the Cup two on track. Will the PS4S give more track days than the Cup 2??

  • @jimmyrecard4390
    @jimmyrecard43905 жыл бұрын

    Had these on my golf r. Just got them for my 1 series. Best tyre ever. MPSS. Great review.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, I'm a big fan!

  • @golfdino
    @golfdino4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your great review, my 2010 911 came with Sport Cups but they were discontinued for the base 18 inch size in the Sport Cup 2 so I needed to find a tire that would be a suitable replacement. I ended up with the 4S and like how the tires are quieter but have yet to test the grip. Living in LA our roads are crappy - with a lot of bumps and potholes in the roads, so going 19 inch was not a wise option if I wanted more comfort. I believe this is the best compromise since I never track the car. I have Super Sports on my M4 CS and love them but will use this review once I need a new set as well.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you made a great choice :)

  • @hilton8830
    @hilton88302 жыл бұрын

    You have provided the best review so far. I just would like to ask; how will the 4s handle in colder weather 40 to 30? I would just like to drive my Porsche a bit longer into the coder months.

  • @th3b0untyhunter
    @th3b0untyhunter5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. However the MP4S isnt available in all sizes the MPSS was, so a test of MPSS vs MP4 (non S) would be great.

  • @Adam-M1

    @Adam-M1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson4 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the info bro !!!

  • @fransarj
    @fransarj7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!! Pilot Sport 4 vs 4S review please! Couldn’t find ANYTHING anywhere!!!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    fransarj I really want to do it, but as there's very few cross over sizes at the moment in the UK, it's not high on the list. PS4S VS Cup 2 is though :)

  • @coenwag
    @coenwag7 жыл бұрын

    Super nice video @Tyre Reviews. When is the test coming between the MPS4 and the MPS4S and MPSC2?? Im very curious between the differences of the MPS4 and the MPS4S!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bokkem01 thanks :) it's still being planned, I'm really hopeful it will be this year!

  • @07wrxtr1
    @07wrxtr17 жыл бұрын

    Good news on the NVH + Wet Traction on the 4's... they'll go on once the PSS's are finished! Thanks for the commentary.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy, let me know how you get on :)

  • @mrex666
    @mrex6667 жыл бұрын

    Very good review!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andreas Sjöström thanks you, really appreciated :)

  • @omarawan6571
    @omarawan65717 жыл бұрын

    I got new forged wheels on my i8 and didn't know whether to go with the PS4S' or PZero's. I wound up going with the PS4S' once I read it was Michellin's "improved" version of the super sports. This video gave me validation knowing I chose the right tire. Thanks!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy the tyres, it's a difficult choice between the top brands as the margins are so small, but all the tests so far indicate you made the right choice :)

  • @LsBirdman
    @LsBirdman7 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding comparison!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Appreciated, thank you :)

  • @derrickallen2054
    @derrickallen20546 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for uploading, great video! I can't wait till Michelin makes the 4S's in the size I need on my 08 350Z, which is 275/40/18. I've been running the PSS's for about a yr now and they are phenomenal, especially in the wet. I was also impressed by their wear quality. I gets lots of use out of'em in my area, I live close to the Tail of the Dragon (aka Deals Gap) here in the states...it's my therapy. ; ) Cheers

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying the tyres :)

  • @derrickallen2054

    @derrickallen2054

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you are ever in the states, do yourself a favor and check out the Tail of the Dragon in east TN, you will thank me. It's a stretch of a U.S. hwy (129) with 318 curves in 11 miles, plus it has no interconnecting roads or private drives in that 11 mile stretch. Here's a small dose, about the last 2-3 miles of it actually, I'm chasing two sportbikes. This was pre-PSS's...think I had some crappy 595S's when I filmed this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3qHpJV7nLOxabQ.html

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Looks amazing, sure will :)

  • @nickf9392
    @nickf9392 Жыл бұрын

    Can you run the PILOT SPORT on the front and the Super sport on the back...any issue with that?

  • @boigoe
    @boigoe2 ай бұрын

    Hi...I have a 70plate E220d, it has pilot sport 3 run flats... a very good tyre...if I replace them what can u recommend? Or should I buy the same ones...or pilot sport 4s..its for light city driving..thanks

  • @nigma195
    @nigma1956 жыл бұрын

    Great review man!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @pompeymonkey3271
    @pompeymonkey32717 жыл бұрын

    Nice review. Just fitted a set of 255/35/19s to all four corners of my Quattro, replacing rather sorry set of Super Sports that came with the s/h car. Can't vouch for grip or mileage, but they are certainly a LOT more comfortable without feeling soft.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to your full review when you've got some more miles on them :) I'm still being impressed by the grip every time I go out!

  • @dariussmith2954
    @dariussmith29544 жыл бұрын

    Great reviews mate im sold on these tyres for my sc v8

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let me know how you find them :)

  • @22illingworth
    @22illingworth7 жыл бұрын

    Great Review thanks for all the info. I have the BMW M2 with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports fitted and was wondering what would be the best option for my next tyres. Having come from a Quattro car back to RWD and living in Ireland, (our part of the world) where the range of both temperatures and rain is so vast tyre choice is always a tough one! Question if you don't mind me asking....... What do you fit to your M3 in the winter months, do you stick with the same or do you change to a set of winter / all weather tyres?

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Difficult question, I Guess it depends if you appreciate steering feel at the limit over wet grip. The PS4S is definitely the better tyre objectively, but it does loose a little of the feel from the PSS. Given your quattro background and where you live, PS4S would be my choice

  • @L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds
    @L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir. for the review. I have never ridden on Mu$helins tyre or bought em, but Im sold. After researching Im getting a set for my BMW. I got some Nitto nt555 g2 on my jdm Tacoma and love those for the value and what I get. What Sold me on the ps4s is not only all the good tech and reviews but the tyres are a few pounds lighter also In the same sizes. Im getting new 18" lightweight wheels on the Bavarian Machine with the lighter Mu$helins. Woohoo!!! 😘🇩🇪☝...

  • @mortierautomotive
    @mortierautomotive4 жыл бұрын

    Put on PSS last year on my Vectra OPC/VXR Caravan before the release of the PS4S. Was driving at 250km/h in Germany and the handling was great. I can't wait to wear them out to put on the PS4S and see the difference! And for a prettier look also of course :) Thanks for the review, I watch a lot of your video you're great! Big Up!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    4 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to your thoughts on the swap :)

  • @MrWindmad
    @MrWindmad7 жыл бұрын

    Great review. Very few sources of this kind of information. Highly valuable. Too bad they don't make them in 18's anymore, hopefully the standard 4 won't be too far off

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    The PS4 already betters the PSS in a number of areas, so while there's quite a big jump in NVH and wet grip from the PSS to the PS4S, the difference between the PS4 and the PS4S will be much smaller. We're constantly talking with Micheli about an 18" PS4S. We're lobbying for one!

  • @mrmilesdrew

    @mrmilesdrew

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tyre Reviews please keep trying 18” is a huge market place

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler21124 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much...pretty much my determining factor when buying UHP rubber is what the feedback is at loss of traction time...that is what matters to me...which is why I still prefer Cup2 tires as I can feel what they are up to at traction loss time...but as my '18 Z06 has PSS's and I was considering Cup2's or PS4's I will now scratch the PS4 thought.

  • @gordonho5986
    @gordonho59865 жыл бұрын

    how about Michelin Pilot Super Sport vs PS4 ? does the former offer superior grip at the expense of slightly more wear and comfort ?

  • @barrychandler1455
    @barrychandler14557 жыл бұрын

    Nice review but any indications on how FWD will perform with the PS4S? Currently have the 235/35 19 PS3's that came from the factory on a Focus ST.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    The PS4S will be a significant upgrade on the PS3, in both in terms of grip and handling dynamics. There's no reason it won't work just as well on a FWD platform!

  • @richardbielicky3603
    @richardbielicky3603 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, very interesting video, thank you for sharing! I am thinking of buying the 4S set for my BMW M4 (F82). I cant get the version with "*", please can you tell me if the version without "*" is much worse then the one especially adjusted for BMW? Thank you, Richard

  • @justgrace123
    @justgrace1236 жыл бұрын

    Great vdo, thanks. Would you make a vdo of Pilot Sport4 vs Pilot Sport 4S ? That would be fantastic.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Make sure you subscribe, it's coming soon! :)

  • @Italiano9091
    @Italiano90914 жыл бұрын

    I struggle to find the best possible 19-20 inch Summer tyres for my BMW 535i xDrive 2012. What I am absolutely sure is though, I do not want any RFT! There are 3 tyres in which I am interested (All w/o RFT) : PSS (*), PS4s (w/o *), Conti SC6 (w/o *) The only "Star-Tyre" without RFT is the Michelin Pilot Super sport. Do you recommend buying older-generation tyres WITH * or newer Generation WITHOUT * ??? Thank you

  • @dutchcarguy6793
    @dutchcarguy67937 жыл бұрын

    i do need new tires for my gti clubsport, thinking between MPS4S or the cup 2 what should i buy?

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    DutchCarGuy it's a test I'm waiting to do, but my gut feel says if you use your car in winter and in the rain, the Cup 2 might be a bit too extreme, but keep an eye on the channel for the test soon!

  • @kieranbutroid4631
    @kieranbutroid46312 жыл бұрын

    I run the 225/40 R18 88Y Michelin SS and have been really impressed with the all season grip and wear is superb for such a soft compound. I may be mistaken but the newer Michelin Sports PS3/4 and 4s don’t offer the lower load rating of 88Y which is standard equipment on some older cars (most cars are now 92Y XL) and therefore will stick with the SS. It’s all you need for everyday driving.

  • @n54andrew

    @n54andrew

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have 180hp the ss are good lol

  • @wilf18
    @wilf186 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Tyres on my E63 are 285/30/19 and 255/35/19. Can only get SS for rear bigger ones and both SS and PS4s available for front. Would you get SS on back and PS4S on front or is this bad idea (homologation issues?) ? Or should I go for SS all round so they match? A 3rd option has occurred to me..Michelin make the 4S in 295/30/19 so if I went up to 295/30/19 from 285/30/19, I could have 4S all round then.. but will 295/30/19 fit ok on a 9.5 x 19 wheel? I’m thinking a 285 width is near the limit for a 9.5 inch width wheel. (I’m disappointed Michelin don’t make the 285 in a 4S size). Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Difficult question. Personally I'd prefer super sports all round rather than mixing, but the rear tyres wear faster and you might end up being able to buy the PS4S in the rear size before the fronts have worn out. Really you'd want a 10" wheel minimum for 295/30 R19. 275/30 R19 fits perfectly on a 9.5, and a 285/35 will also fit. You might find ESP / clearance issues with a new tyre size, so make sure you check the owners clubs to see what others have done.

  • @wilf18

    @wilf18

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tyre Reviews thanks for reply. That rear size isn’t available in continental sport contact 6 either. Rang Michelin and they couldn’t confirm whether or not they’d be making the 4S in that size. Bit of a pity after watching your review.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, it's not on the Michelin roadmap for the first half of 2018. I'd use this as an excuse to fit new wider alloys and get some larger tyres :)

  • @visionmediaproductionsnz
    @visionmediaproductionsnz7 жыл бұрын

    Please make the video of the PSC2!! thanks for the hard work!!

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    South Coast Photography thank you, we're trying to get one organised at the moment!

  • @CROMEXorg
    @CROMEXorg2 жыл бұрын

    As a driver of an E92 M3, I am now wondering if the Super Sport with * is not the better choice over the 4S?

  • @aharrymarry
    @aharrymarry3 жыл бұрын

    thnks for this mate!

  • @grasuh
    @grasuh6 жыл бұрын

    I just got 4S for all 4 wheels on my coupe and OMG...this is the BEST tire I have ever owned. Smoother ride but gives fantastic grip...sooo sticky! It is also much harder to spin the wheel from a hard launch. Completely satisfied.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're enjoying them :)

  • @CarsOnAutobahn
    @CarsOnAutobahn7 жыл бұрын

    Just perfect! After your vid. i just ordered new tyres and subsribe to your channel !

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, let us know how you get on!

  • @randysiggers5332

    @randysiggers5332

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol, I did the same. :)

  • @mariusmd89
    @mariusmd893 жыл бұрын

    You suggested a video ps4 vs ps4s vs pss... I suggest , for us fellas with 18" wheels, to do a video ps4 vs pss. Thank you. Your videos are great!

  • @c2h2c2h210
    @c2h2c2h2107 жыл бұрын

    what will the cup2 perform in wet conditions? Looking to change tyres for 911.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    We've not tested the Cup2's on the road, just track. Their wet weather performance is good for a track tyre, but like any track tyre, they will struggle when cold or in standing water.

  • @egocd
    @egocd7 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Subbed.

  • @samcas707
    @samcas7077 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys what would you say is the most comfortable sports tyre. I have an m3 comp with oe star spec mpss in a 30 series and looking for something a bit better in nvh. I had oe pzero on my rs3 in a 30 series and switching to mpss made a big improvement in nvh

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    7 жыл бұрын

    Until the PS4S we'd have said the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 was probably the most comfortable sports tyres on the market, closely followed by the Continental Sport Contact 6, which had much better NVH qualities than the PSS when we tested them back to back. It will be interesting to see who wins in the 2017 tests, if we were to guess we'd say the Asymmetric 3 might still have the edge in the comfort and noise categories.

  • @jillybeann
    @jillybeann6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the review! Think I'll be replacing my Super Sports on my F10 M5 with the Sport 4 S this summer.

  • @tyrereviews

    @tyrereviews

    6 жыл бұрын

    Let me know how you get on with them!

  • @intelligentcarreviews8592

    @intelligentcarreviews8592

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got em on my f10 m5 and it's crazy how you cannot understeer

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