Miami Dice, Episode 133 - Marvel: Dice Masters
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Tom Vasel, Sam Healey, and Zee Garcia take a look at Marvel Avengers vs. X-men Dice Masters from Wizkids
00:00 - Introduction
01:51 - Game overview
13:14 - Final thoughts
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"Venom. Everyone's favourite character except in spiderman 3." :')
Great review! thanks for highlighting the requirements for buying additional things and I appreciate that note in your review.
Woah all 3 of you are here for Miami Dice awesome!
"We have Venom, everybody's favourite character except in Spiderman 3" Oh, man, how did I laugh...
Hey Tom . Just so you know for future . It is said, myol-near.
"Venom! Everyone's favorite character except in Spider-man 3!" Lololololol
As a total Colossus fanboi, I must say that his arms are an organic osmium/steel alloy. I earned my nerd badge for today.
Stoked to get this, I just wish it was actually available to purchase :p
Excelent video, gentlemen! Keep up with the good job!
What kind of storage is that? Where can I buy a plastic holder like that one?
I gotta watch this later after I've had a drink, all I can see right now is a collectible dice game that looks like Quarriors!(even if that isn't what it is). :)
@Woodclaw
10 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed it. All I can see right now is a Quarriors reskinning.
I am definitely getting into this game. Looks awesome. I wanted to get into Quarriors but I didn't really want to spend so much money for it. At least with this, I won't feel like I'm spending too much on it. The gameplay looks great and the heroes' abilities look pretty cool. I cannot wait for this to release!
Ha! This was great. This looks like a lot of fun. I think this is the most excited I have ever seen Tom :)
I think its level of "collectibility" is really fine for me, mainly due to the reasonable price of each 2-dice/card packs. Absolutely going to get it soon :)
Thanks for the review. I'm very much looking forward to this game. What kind of storage box is that you are using in the video? If it's a Plano, can you give the model number? looks like a perfect storage solution.
Laughed at your collectability aside, you cut to it right as I was thinking how much I hate them. Excellent work.
I'm hyped so hard.
I never knew this was in the works this morning but 5diffrent youtube channels did reviews TODAY Id be into this game regardless but the booster price is a big selling point
If WIZKIDS branches out, I would love to see a G.I. Joe version of Dice Masters. There are so many characters in the Joe verse that would be fun to play and they are also a Marvel Comic, Originally.
@nicwilley1116
10 жыл бұрын
I would prefer a deck building game first for GI Joe.
@Brickerbrack
8 жыл бұрын
Actually, they were a Hasbro toyline originally, and Marvel were licenced to do the comics. Now they're not - IDW holds that licence now. That said, aren't WizKids a Hasbro subsidiary anyway? I agree, I'd like to see GI Joe as an expansion, as well as my personal pet franchise, Transformers.
Ok, so you say this is 'thematic', yet villains and heroes can be on the same 'team' right? So, does this debunk the verdict on DC Comic Deckbuilder? :) I do not doubt this dice game is super- fun. I really enjoy the Quarrior line, and this super-hero cousin looks to be a blast. But I would not call it 'true-thematic'. Thematic maybe because an ability would 'match' it's respective character, (sort of like the cards in DCCDB), but not 'true-thematic'. The dice were a concern of mine, not for paint rubbing off, but for clarity. If the dice consistently have the quality of detail that yours do, then that would be great! The dice are very appealing as is the artwork on the cards. You guys are terrific. I love your reviews and Tom's enthusiasm. I always look forward to the next visit from all three of you. :)
@wroot_lt
10 жыл бұрын
Tom probably would never use super heroes and villains on the same team. If he does, then he should apologize DC Deck building game :) Well, you can stay thematic in this game at least with your team.
I really hope he's wright about being on of the biggest hits of 2014!! I'm stoked about the potential of this game.
What cards come in the base set? I don't really fallow comics so I don't know who was part of the Avengers/ X-Men fight.
You have to tell us what kind of storage case you are using.
I just started playing and I notice there doesn't seem to be a way to reduce your pool. Unless someone knows different.
Hey Tom, Fantastic video.....as always. What is the name of the storage container you're using to store Marvel: Dice Masters? Thanks!
Hoooly! Zee got his own....umm slidey picture picture thingy....YEAH!
Any word if they will have player mats?
Is it a good idea to buy two starter packs?
Hey, simple question but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. In a game what's the maximum number of dice you could have in your dice bag?
@whataboutki
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I wanted to know how big to make my dice bag!
Hey, more reused Marvel art. Exciting.
@HermannTheGreat
10 жыл бұрын
Pretty pathetic isn't it
Each character still engaged with Phoenix.... Scot Summers? :D I wonder if there are dice that will interact with other dice, like teh fastball special for instance: wolverine doing extra damage when you have a collosus die out on the table.
Where do i get the box that you have there? I tried like amazon or something but i didnt know what the name of the box was lol
@DanteMustLearn
9 жыл бұрын
ebay but for some reason the avx boxes are selling for stupidly high prices
@josevelajr
2 жыл бұрын
Plano makes these and you can get them at Wal Mart for very cheap.
The impression I get is that it’s Heroclix but in card form? It looks interesting but if I had a option I would go for Heroclix.
Is this going to be available internationally? Or is that release date US only?
Tom, I've always wondered where you get your titles, animations and music. If it's a trade secret, cool, but I was wondering if you made them yourself, commissioned them or use public domain. I love the Miami Dice intro song.
Sooo, it's a quarriors marvel ccg? God, I hope we get it here in canada.
You have 4 dice on your Wolverine, but he's Max dice 3? :p
Just purchased this game yesterday at FFG event center(sold out again at FFG). I was looking for a fast game to play with my wife and kids. I think the comparison to magic is correct but it is so different. I love this game !!!!!! I think the dice are great the card art is great (cards are thin) plays fast and theme is awesome.
Will you be able to play this game with more than 2 players?
Where did you/do you buy those cloth drawstring bags?
@legobloggen
10 жыл бұрын
You should be able to find these "dice bags" in any well assorted gaming store.
@wetwillyccma
10 жыл бұрын
I made my own bags by going to the fabric store and buying canvas and sewing them. Don't laugh but my mother was a seamstress. I grew up learning how to sew. :)
Did this game hit the big box stores?
Thank you for showing us this guys! Is there a release date set yet?
@ThatJeromeGonyeau
10 жыл бұрын
April 23, 2014 for both starter and booster packs. More info here: dicemasters.com
@thenedain
10 жыл бұрын
***** What I really want to know is when the OP kit for it is due out! I'm really looking forward to it!
IS there going to be DC Dice Masters? I don't remember any announcements for it.
@Dm_editzz.
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, March 2015
My pocketbook is already hurting and this game isn't even out yet.
For some reason, the audio is worse in the new house.Move again! Seriously now, maybe you need to insulate the room with that acoustic foam thing. It sounds so empty in there
@thedicetower
10 жыл бұрын
It was a microphone issue. It will be fixed by next week.
@Wakkachuta
10 жыл бұрын
So glad it wasn't an issue with your game room itself. I noticed that weird far-away, hollow sound as well with the three of you talking.
@EricLucero
10 жыл бұрын
The Dice Tower I would recommend some acoustic paneling anyway. The presentation of the show is getting better and better. The new camera and the improved game room help the visual presentation a lot. There is no reason to skip out on the audio. You don't need to cover the entire room, but putting up some good size pieces around the room where you have open space can go a long way in cutting down that reverberation effect that is prevalent when using condenser mics.
@EliasDKehr
10 жыл бұрын
Eric Lucero Maybe a stretch goal for next year's kickstarter? A lot of money is being put towards improvements this spring as is.
I'm already super excited for this one, and this review just seals the deal. I'm planning on running an organized play league for this at my FLGS, and I agree that this one's looking like it'll be a big hit. April 23rd is so far away!
Wizkids should make a HUGE D20 Galactus die.
question: same characters can block themselves? Can Wolverine from one player be blocked by Wolverine from another player?! This wouldn`t make sense, don`t you think?
Does this mean out of the HeroClix & into the Marvel Dice Masters for me?!... (I hope I don't get bit by the bug too badly with this one.. like before) I like the theme music btw; do you happen to be a fan of the Supertones (or Five Iron Frenzy)?!
Got mine today...
can you tell me why this is better than 2 player quarriors, besides the theme?
@Brend0ver
10 жыл бұрын
You get to pick your own individual team, and the combat is head to head more like magic with blockers and defenders. Also, global abilities. I haven't played Quarriors, but I would assume most of these hold true.
@Enroth186
10 жыл бұрын
in quarriors you also have blocker and defender! and if you want you can choose/draft some cards in the beginning, so it would be the same gameplay wise?!
@EyalItsik
10 жыл бұрын
Enroth186 It does seem like a reskin of Quarriors :(
@thedicetower
10 жыл бұрын
Eyal Itsik I IS NOT A RESKIN. At all. Give it a play - it's much closer to Magic than to Quarriors.
@EyalItsik
10 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed Quarriors quite a bit, so by saying it looks like a reskin I don't mean I won't be able to enjoy it. How are the games different, though, beside the fact that each player has his own selection of cards and dice? The core mechanisms seem very similar to Quarriors'.
so hero clix with dice?
Id like to draft this
This is cool
I have watched several videos on how to play Dice Masters. I came to you guys because Tom has this great ability to teach how to play games. But, I still don't understand this game at all.
maybe one day the colossus movie will come to fruition .....one day
That Nick Fury Is going to be my teams base :)
I must buy this when it comes out. What sucks is you can't pre order it from coolstuffinc.com except the Marvel Dice Masters: Avengers vs X-Men Dice Building Game Gravity Feed Display. Not sure if that is just the small packs and a display? Does anyone know? Anyway I want this soooooo bad and the DC version when it comes out. Glad you guys like it. Tom, i am on the same level as you, very excited. I hope Cool Stuff puts it on pre order soon.
Has there ever been a marvel miniature game or something that used miniatures?
@chenghermanhc
10 жыл бұрын
Hero clix
Got to say.... my inner geek is grinning here.....
Hi again, The sound does sound a little bit like you are talking in a cave. Not sure what can be done about it, but it is noticible.
There already is a Yugioh dice game, Dungeon Dice Monsters. The concept was alright but it wasn't very popular and they didn't support it much after release.
Santa Zombie :D
Ah Venom... everybody's favorite character except in Spiderman 3.
Love quarriors and love this one theme BUT... only 2-players? Can't figure that game being a hit if it plays only for 2 with soooo many excellent CCG/BCG/DCG in the market:(
So many different dice 0.O
I have been considering getting into Quarriors but the theme was really not doing it for me, I found the "comedy" off putting. But this, this seems like something I can get behind, now I just have to get over the collectible aspect, i have a very bad track record with those types of game. i always get overeager and get a ton of card, and is then left as the only one among my friends who is willing to get into it. But it seems like this can be done perfectly well with just one guy having the stuff.
"Ultimate sacrifice"? Nuh-uh, wasn't a sacrifice. Game looks fun tho.
Tom already needs one additional die :P
Zee seems to really like this game. Weird that he never talks about it now. Not on his top 100 either IIRC.
@hardbathsalts3143
6 жыл бұрын
Toronto1967 this video was probably sponsored.
I'll give it a ten
"Yu-gi-oh dice masters?!!?!? pfft" Well, that kinda exists already... for 13 years now...
Oh... Oh no... There goes my spending budget.
NO, NO, NO!!! Uh, uh, Tom, you don't get away with this. You can't give this game so much praise after screaming at the DC Deck Building Game for its theme problems. The DC DBG has, for example, Green Lantern's ability to use Batman's utility belt, or Wonder Woman recruiting criminals to help her fight. You said that kind of crossing over makes no thematic sense - yet you're okay with, for instance, Deadpool using Captain America's shield??? That sounds like a double standard to me, because you're in love with the theme here. GOTCHA!
@omelettecrap
9 жыл бұрын
Can't anyone use Captain America's shield? It's not like it's Thor's hammer.
You gave a 9.5 rating to a game with a major marketing flaw. Like you Tom, I can see myself playing the base game and enjoy what looks to be like a fun game without the necessity to collect boosters. But I know I'll want more heroes and 1$ or not there is NO WAY I will buy a pack without knowing what can be inside. That's basics of the selling/buying theory. MTG at least garantees a set of rarities and that's enough for me because it means I can trade my rares with other rares. With this game I would have gladly spent 50$ more to get hold of all the cards if this was a LCG instead. The format matters a lot and people can have different opinions about that. Personally I feel like MTG and the other Pokemon-like card games are not really a good thing to the hobby as it emphasizes the rich man kid syndrom. I cannot play MTG anymore because I am FORCED to buy new cards to cope with my opposition (since that's what they do, also no need to point out that's 100% of their board game budget). If you look at the BGG posts about this discussion for the Marvel Dice game, you will see judging by the tone of the designers that the game is made for mass market and that's not something I would promote much regardless of the quality of production of that game. When I read these things I feel like there is something underneath the game that I don't quite like. You are welcome to disagree with me, your rating reflects the game's quality and that's fine, but there are politics involved in terms of major decisions made about the game, and I simply don't think recommending this game is a striaght forward thing to do due to the consequence this type of marketing design may have on the market. I would aboslute HATE that more future card games took this distribution model as a winning concept and make the whole hobby the church of the rich men.
Are there enough villains for heroes vs villains? I hate superhero games against other superheroes.
@philheaton1619
10 жыл бұрын
I understand that, but there are supervillians in the set as well. I was just wondering if there were at least 8 villains to use for one side.
@philheaton1619
10 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the next set will include more, or at least DC heroes to put up against the Marvel ones...
@forisrex
10 жыл бұрын
***** from what i saw i counted 7 - magneto, mystique, green goblin, dr. doom, doc ock, venom, loki. if you look at the cards some have symbols on them. the red tentacled thingy on a black field is the symbol for villain. also there is a 4 for fantastic four, x for xmen, a for avengers (for the person wondering about who is on which team) im nor sure about the rest though or if it will matter
Yeah whatever, collectability is a no go!
To be fair, Tom has since corrected me. The DC DBG forces the theme problem upon you, while in Dice Masters you have a greater freedom of choice as to which heroes and equipment you decide to bring to the table. So the potential for theme violation is still there in Dice Masters, but it's not nearly as bad as in the DC DBG. Sorry, Tom.
Almost everything plays exactly the same as Quarriors! I find your lack of innovation disturbing
@thedicetower
10 жыл бұрын
Wow. It's REALLY different than Quarriors. I apologize if I didn't make that clear.
@EyalItsik
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, Tom :) I asked you about this further in another thread.
@RollDiceTakeNames
10 жыл бұрын
The Dice Tower A friend of mine blew this off saying it was just Quarriors and I gave him about 8-10 rules that made it different but he's not buying it. This is not Quarriors with heroes
It looks nice but I still can't stand collectors games. It's why I just recently left magic because I was tired of rares, mythic rares and such. That's why I moved onto Netrunner with it's limited card game format which for me is a much better format.
sounds echoey in there
This game is more like Quarriors meets the VS System. Unfortunately no one knows the VS System. I'm okay with the cheap bags and reused artwork. Why? Costs. The costs of collecting this game is quite low. I actually wasn't excited for this game until I saw the costs. Sacrificing a couple dollars to upgrade the bag ourselves is worth it if it brings more people to the game.
as I understood correctly: One only gets 8 characters...so the ones you are introducing (10:45) are from your personal full package that you`ve got for the review.......other people have to invest "much more" in order to get that full experience.....honestly I´m not a big fan of that. The better choice would have been to include all characters but to sell the base game for a higher price.
@Braz__
10 жыл бұрын
ah...sorry...just heard it in the review: You get 24 different characters in the base game, isn`t it?! This is far better,....
@Braz__
10 жыл бұрын
Mario S damn........ok...I was right initially: 8 different characters with 3 different variants each makes 24 "characters" out of it....no...I´m not a big fan of that....
Wow another re themed quarriors type game.......
iSun Tzu :D
Sorry, they lost me at blind booster packs and artificial card rarity. It's why I quit Magic so many years ago.
@StefanLopuszanski
10 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be that bad since only the cards are rare / very rare. In theory you can probably just print out the card image and use a proxy -- you only really need the dice. Granted your copy won't be "legit" and you'll still need to spend money to get the dice, but I think that's a fair compromise between the two. Just glad they didn't make some DICE rare.
@Ranerdar
10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've had sometime to come around to the idea. Really it's the $1 price tag. I can overlook it for a dollar. Had it been $3-4 dollar a Magic booster, then forget it.
@KeithCherryVictoria
10 жыл бұрын
Ranerdar But you are only getting 2 cards + 2 dice for $1. Would you buy Magic boosters for $1 if each one has 2 creature and 2 land cards?
@StefanLopuszanski
10 жыл бұрын
Keith Li That comparison is horrible. You're using 8ish cards and approximately 20 dice per game. That's $10 for a full deck. In a MtG the standard is 60 cards with boosters holding at most 16 cards for $4 (or $1 for 4 cards). That means you'd have to spend a minimum of $15 to make a viable deck in MtG... and that doesn't even account for different colors and other things.
Gameplay looks great. But I'll wait for a living dice game from FFG. There's no reason to waste a lot of cash on useless boosters.
Lol? Is this a review of the base game or a review of the game when you have collected everything?
I can see the mechanics in the game suiting Yu-Gi-Oh! perfectly. . . . . . . . .why are you laughing? There nothing wrong with a grown man liking Yu-Gi?
Sam just lost all his credibility in comic books area when I saw his reaction towards DC...
I am not a big fan of the collectible part, you end up with the have's and the have nots. A terrible money sink with no end in sight. It's a theme I like both DC and Marvel, but I have not intrest in getting started in this, I wish them well, but it's just not something I am going to pick up.
Quarriors kind of sucked, so I am a bit worried about this one.
Ok need to call bs on the collectible part of this game. People are paying $50 for a gobby or tsarina. You are paying to play now.
@TheMormegil92
10 жыл бұрын
I need to call bs on the pricing too. "Just one dollar" doesn't really mean anything. Assuming all cards have the same rarity (which they DON'T and that adds to the price for most cards): On average, playing with a certain card costs between 6$ and 15$ (3 dollars per die up to max die size, or 4 dollars if you just want the card). For a specific rare, it's about 24$, and for ultra rares it's just too stupidly high unless you buy them on ebay or something (with the aforementioned 50$ prices, which aren't bad). Getting the whole game costs at least 225$, without considering the different rarities. Plus the starter set. 250$ is playing it safe. TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS FOR THIS GAME ONLY.
How once a great and nice game fell becouse of the producers stupid decisions and approach to community.. Really sad.
I hate captain America
gah the way he treats his games makes my butt cringed
how can you like marvel more than dc
Total Quarriors ripoff. Boooooo
Auto-Dislike for shitting on Punisher. Read Ennis's "In the Begginning" and "Kitchen Irish" and then tell me the character is "Over-rated". While not worth a dislike on its own, boo on you, sir, for rolling your eyes at Marvel over DC. Only in terms of films can Marvel pretend to compete. There are no equivalents to The Long Halloween or All-Star Superman or the Longbow Hunters or Identity Cris in the Marvel catalogue (welll... Fraction's Hawkeye run, but otherwise...).
I really dislike Sam Healey's shirt. Vasel does a commendable job keeping religion to a minimum in his reviews (unless it's absolutely necessary and affects his opinion of the game) and I greatly appreciate that. This "Christian Warrior" shirt though, is very tacky and tasteless.