My brother bought his in January and has never stopped praising it since he took delivery. He says it is without doubt, the best car he's ever owned and knocks other EVs costing £15-20k more for six.

Bought long range long range MG4 23 plate, ex garage demo and 6 months old. It still has 6 yrs warranty. Love it. I have a ‘dumb’ home charger from a previous EV, and the in-car scheduled (cheap rate) charging was difficult (kept reverting to a different schedule), but trial and error seems to have worked… used CCS at Instavolt recently, which worked at 75kw in sleet. Changed to MG 4 for range, CCS charging facility and price. The drive is very comfortable. The car isn’t brutish looking and I use ECO even on motorways. A really good feature is that if I really accelerate hard (eg, to avoid an issue) it changes to NORMAL to get me out of a bind. The really irritating defult feature is LANE ASSIST - I live near narrow country lanes, and don’t like the ‘wheel grab’ effect, so I have to sit and programme.

Nice clear presentation style with no frills and very informative content - subscribed!

Thanks for the video. Really useful as we are looking at going EV in the next couple of years and the MG4 is on the list - as is the MG5 estate.😃

Thanks, Stuart. And hello! Found your channel today, and subscribed. 🙂👍

Very informative from a real owner

Fun to follow MG in the future, my Tesla’s are now 9 years old with 300.000-350.000km on each no big issues only door handles so far.

Thanks the reviews - I ordered a SE Long Range today and candid reviews like this certainly helped shape my decision 👍🏽

Hi Stewart, nice to meet you earlier and chat about the mg , as I said , we’ve had two now and they have been great, no problems and great build quality .

@stuart_thomas

10 ай бұрын

Great to meet you too 👍

Really enjoyed this video, I love your styling of the review, very detailed visuals and professional analysis of your experiences. I'm looking to secure one of these cars in the next month or two as it remains outstanding value and really does tick the boxes when weighing up my leasing options. You've given me some excellent pointers to make the most of the experience as and when I receive the car. Thanks so much Stuart - subbed!

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, I appreciate the great feedback. I hope you enjoy your MG4 as much as I do👍

Damn that's one good looking motor. Had one parked next to my ID3 and i was impressed

Enjoying your reports Stuart. Very informative and succinct.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks Ron, much appreciated 👍

Nice show, really informative.

I've been looking for an honest review for this car from someone who owns it, you're damn great in explaining pros and cons including the summary everything is straight to the point every single second is relatively informative, I still dont know much about EV but if im planning to get this car soon, thanks to you I found the answers that I've been looking for

@einoware436

8 ай бұрын

Honestly it is a 50/50. Quality Control is bad and some of the cars have very odd software issues and just general build quality issuess. Make sure you have a dealer with a good service that can fix these in case you get a bad example.

@stuart_thomas

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was of help to you ☺️

I've had the MG4 Comfort (the version that until the 'Long Range' had the longest range of 450 kilometres) as a company car for six weeks now (driven > 4200 kilometres already), and I'm loving it. The car's a newer version (this one has a rear window wiper) than the one you have, and I always stick to the 'Eco' setting. I really like the battery efficiency, which as long as you drive tops 100 km/h (about 60 m/h) is pretty accurate. Go past that and you'll burn energy rapidly, but here (Netherlands) that isn't a problem as during the day there's a speed limit of 100 km/h anyway. And sticking to 100 km/h during the night actually feels more comfortable as well. Go lower speeds and you'll find out that the regenerative power is amazing. One time I had to drive about 11 kilometres through countryside, through a village with maximum limits of 50 km/h and 30 km/h. Sticking to decently conserving energy, the range of the car only dropped by 5.5 kilometres. One time in my city when it was busy and I had to slow down or brake, I actually gained 1% energy and more range! That actually begs the question whether it's possible to gain energy by driving :) For its size the car is very spacey indeed and is really useful for the work that I do, which regularly requires driving all sorts of equipment with me. I haven't had too much issues yet with the fast-charging capabilities: due to the range, I rarely need it. And when I do, all I need to do is get some coffee at the gas station to take a break, and by the time the coffee's finished there's plenty of range left to get back home. But I'll have to see how this will work during winter. Disadvantages: I've driven test runs with the Luxury (the first version with spoilers), so I know which features I'm missing. It's also odd that some of the things that they've saved money on is for example being unable to fold the rear mirrors. That could one day be a difficult problem. The car also looks very dirty quite quickly: it's easy to see your fingerprints on the screen and on the outside on especially the back you can fairly quickly see it getting dirty. Not being able to save your customised settings is just dumb, really dumb. Why offer so many features if you do not want your customer to keep them? I really had to teach myself to when the car starts to do the set up that I want to have. I've already given up on some adjustments, as it is just a hassle to keep doing it. I also really do not like it that you cannot turn off the automatic breaking systems when driving on cruise control. The system is absolutely not subtle, and I'm constantly worried that something that is supposed to make you safer ends up causing accidents to those driving behind me - because sometimes that breaking can be really ruthless and absolutely uncomfortable to the one behind me. Because most of the population hasn't driven an EV yet and so isn't aware that this can be a thing in EV's. It made my mitigate this problem, by switching on and off the cruise control or using the e-paddle when necessary to overtake the cruise control and prevent the quick breaking. Charging on regular charges is also frequently quite a bit lower than the maximum capacity: quite often it doesn't get past the 50% capability, at best it might reach something like 65%. This causes the charging to take more time than necessary. And I've now got my first bug: when closing the car, after 1-2 seconds the trunk opens. I can't find a way of solving this and therefore will have to go to the dealer to get it fixed. My opinion so far: I really like the car, I'm happy with it. It does have some nuisances (besides the automatic breaking, that really is a hassle), but they're not a major problem. I'll see how the car will function over time, especially during winter. But so far I think it won't give any major problems.

@BigEightiesNewWave

5 ай бұрын

Wish we could get it in USA. Cheers to Norway, very pretty, and some fantastic musical artists. I am a fan of NHL player Daniel Sprong, born there.

@tonynaranjo2182

4 ай бұрын

I really appreciated your comments, super useful and detailed with real user information. I’m really close to buy a MG4 Luxury (updated version) as my first very own car. It just arrived to Colombia at the end of December 2023 for around 40000 USD (the previous version didn’t land here). For reference, the standard BYD Dolphin is about 38750 USD, it comes without sunroof, 13s 0-100km/h. A Nissan Leaf would be 41250 USD (idk the trim). Renault Megan’s E-tech 50000 USD (idk the trim). BYD Atto 3 48750 (top trim version). Do you have any updates so far? I would highly appreciate your comments.

I live this review, it is nicely paced for disabled people and it's interesting and professional. Thank you very much!

Had my Trophy for about 3 months now, love driving this baby, what a beautiful drive. I'd say the software can be improved but otherwise, very pleased with my purchase.

@thrilled2bits

Жыл бұрын

Also, I'd love to have the 360 camera to come on automatically when I get close to the car or an object in front....

thanks for the review, helpful one!

Excellent in-depth review, thanks for this I'm really looking at buying one of these MG4s

@stuart_thomas

4 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

Hi Stuart, Thank you for your honest and in-depth review. This is one of 3 cars we are looking at for our first family EV car, the other two are the MG ZS and the Kia Niro (first edition) so this review was very helpful to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain the pros and cons of this MG4.

@GimmeADecentUsername

Жыл бұрын

Are you ualso looking at the mg5? Just testdrived the 5 and ZS, both are very similair in price, the zs trunk looks deeper and larger but is actually a little smaller. Heard the zs can feel a little swirly in corners, though I haven't experienced that in my testdrive.

@joost1183

11 ай бұрын

The MG4 also fits 3 children car seats in the rear. Easier than our ford Kuga non-ev.

MG is definitely on my shopping list🔥👍

Great overview of pros and cons of the MG4. Thanks for sharing.

What a superb video!!! You should be reviewing other marques. I had a 2019 Model 3 SR+ and the range was never an issue. One Warm day last year on a trip to my brothers I got an astonishing 130wh per mile. That's an SR+ doing a theoretical 384 miles. I found the Tesla range was consistently conservative and when doing distances, with everything warming up over the miles, range was always better than shown. I would even get somewhere with say 48% and when I got back to the car and hour later it had ticked up to 52% because the ambient temp had warmed. And my SR+ was sold on with just 18k miles and mint (it was a white one early delivery with front fogs an all round heated seats) for "only" £24,600. Now that's a 320hp rear wheel drive sports saloon that is a bargain.

Very interesting video; thanks!

I’m looking to upgrade my Ioniq 28kw which can do 100motorway miles in the winter and 120 in the summer. I do get 6miles perkWh in the summer with mixed driving and the MG looks like a good replacement although I can charge 10-80% in 17mins in my Ioniq as the charge curve is so flat. I’m also torn between a mid £20k Tesla M3 and MG4, Great review and keep them coming.

@oliverskinner8962

10 ай бұрын

The 38kwh Ioniq will do 200 miles mixed driving in summer 180 miles motorway @ 70 if you can live with 45kw charging 10-80% 40 minutes summer 55 minutes in winter and a range of 135 miles in snow -1°c on motorway @ 63mph in winter with heating at 18°c

Thank you for this beautifull insight. I agree great car on this pricepoint. I love the LFP, and 7kW charging on solar. No meed for something else. As temperatures rise saw low consumption resulting on an estimated range on GOM 411km. Better than expected. Charging speed is once reported by my son above 100kW after software update of charger and heavy top speed driving.

@michaelhoolahan5717

Ай бұрын

my essence64 has seen 148 kw charging speed

Thanks 👍 nice genuine review 👍

I like that you have your climate control buttons as a “widget” on the home screen the trophy version doesnt. Ill have a look if I can change that

Thank you for your informative videos. Have just put my deposit down and picking up the same vehicle next week. Its called Excite 51 in Australia. Shouldn't have the low temp issues as I live in tropical Queensland.

@stuart_thomas

9 ай бұрын

That is awesome!

I really wish they offered the Trophy trim level with every battery option. Also, I wonder how many of the Trophy upgrades could be retrofitted and if anyone is actually doing this? I know lots of people are importing accessories from China, but I'm talking actual things like the 360 degree cameras or the wireless charger. For me, I am not interested in long range, extended range or dual motors. Like you, the standard range would suffice (heck I'd probably make do with an even smaller battery option as long as it retains fast charging) but that doesn't mean people want to miss out on the extra toys.

Fantastic video 😊

Great video - well presented and explained - Thankyou.

@stuart_thomas

10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

These MG cars are looking great an great value for money,mg4 looks nice but not ready for electric car yet, i do like the new facelifted 2023/2024 mg hs trophy ,looks lovely in grey or black with the red leather interior, definitely one i might get in a few years, at present im enjoying my diesel jeep renegade ive had for 4 months, great video greetings from Scotland 😁👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Stuart, Thankyou for your posts . An intelligent appraisal of a groundbreaking vehicle. Like you we have owned ours now for six months. Agree totally with other contributors that the self drive software which cannot be set and saved (Please MG sort this out) is a major Bind. But hey once you have got used to resetting every time it becomes second nature. I wish we could have afforded the LR version But we skinted ourselves ( pensioners) to buy the car😅. Yes got the bent under tray also . After another nag to the dealers … yep on back order and MG Are sorting it . I think if I understood correctly they have now modified this component (just needed another bolt under the centre where unsupported, basically a bit skimped ? ) It is so nice to drive and getting back in our ICE car is showing how primitive it all is. I certainly have not missed stuffing £100 diesel into the tank every Few weeks. Trying to stop the missus worrying about range has been tricky . but the ad hoc development of charge points where the greedy blighters are ripping off for 80p per kWh is taking the p- I am sure you will agree. Not helpful . She was apprehensive initially but I am picking up better vibes from her now, She obviously likes the driving experience.🤞 Just one question .Are there cheaper alternatives to the little widget you demonstrated To use the infotainment system to play recorded music? Thanks again keep up the good work .

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Hi John thanks for taking time to write this fantastic comment. I have to say the cost of public charging is a bit of an issue on some of the networks but there are some which are more realistic, even Tesla on some are only charging a little over 50p p/kW. There are alternatives for wireless multimedia. The company I reviewed the device for are sending me an alternative more affordable version so keep an eye out for that one. I have seen a few people in the comments for that video mention some more affordable units worth considering. Many thanks again 👍

Fair play, I could not do with all the hassle of charging and planning journeys.

Thanks for this information.

Real world reports so valuable

Australia is getting the AWD version soon . Looking forward to it. Might even sell my i30n for it

@tren133

Жыл бұрын

That MG4 AWD will arguably be the first proper "hot hatch" EV! Although it might even be a bit too fast to be just called a hatchback, given how fast EV can accelerate these days.

OMG. Fantastic to hear all the buttons and switches are still working fine. After 6 months. And outside has also no scratches. Amazing! In this day and age. To have literally no scratches after 6 months. Gobsmacked. And the wing mirrors are also still looking as good as new. After 6 months. It beggars belief!

@stuart_thomas

7 ай бұрын

And they still are at 12 months but a video in full with be out shortly 👍

Thank you, Stuart, for the good video, and the people who have commented below on their love of this car, I am looking in future to get an EV and the MG will certainly be on my list. My only issue with EV cars is not the Cars (well the prices do come have a bearing) but the charging infrastructure, from what I have viewed, you need a multitude of apps to pay, and they all see flakey?

@stuart_thomas

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, it’s greatly appreciated. Try not to be put off by charging infrastructure, it’s getting better all the time and I actually only use one app/card for everything now (Electroverse). There’s some great EVs out there especially in the used market. I’ve driven 10 used EVs for my ‘used’ series which I’m desperately trying to finish editing which are fantastic. Thanks again 👍

Nice honest review. You are not looking for anything special in the car. So you have a realistic view for the price point.

I drive a M3 Performance from 2020. But I have to admit this MG4 is much more comfortable. Even I admitted that it drove better then my Tesla. Good car.

@stuart_thomas

6 ай бұрын

It’s a great point. Admittedly, later post 2021 M3s are much more comfortable. Our 2020 is M3 LR is being replaced later this month with a MY LR and I’m not going to miss it, UK roads are just unforgiving for stiff suspension in heavy cars.

Excellent review. The charge rates are definitely misleading. Even if the car can hit those rates, it's not for long. Most of the charging is at a slower speed.

When you shot this excellent video, the MG 4 was sold in China for nearly a year. There is no excuse for deceiving charging powers (at MG and other brands) and dashboard quality issues, except the price tag

The MG4 fits 3 children car seats no problem in the back. Quite spacious especially because it is a rather small vehicle from the outside.

Thanks Stuart, really enjoy following your MG4 experience. How many miles have you covered in the car so far? You did say at the start you would talk about the dealership experience....are they responding to the fixes you are waiting for?...do they keep you in the picture? A new MG dealership just opened 60 km north of me in Poitiers so my Hyundai Ioniq owning friend and I will be making a visit soon to see how they are doing and maybe have a go in one. I haven't seen one on the road here in France yet but the French stats say they have shifted a couple of thousand in the past 2 months. We just got back from a 1,750 km road trip to see family in Switzerland...and I can report that rapid charging en route here is a lot better than it was 4 years ago when we got the e-Niro, were you ever to head this way on vacation you shouldn't have any problems charging the MG.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update on charging I’m heading to Geneva soon but flying on this occasion with a petrol hire car. In total 4700 miles and still going strong. Dealership experience is very much what I expect and is very much in line with most in the UK I’ve dealt with, very limited contact and in most cases you need to chase for updates. The only saving grace is all my warranty issues are now carried out by my local MG instead of the one I purchased it from. You should definitely give one a drive.👍

Love these videos, keep them coming 👍 I can see why MG don’t want you to permanently disable the safety systems, but they should definitely let us save our preferred settings Frustrating that the LFP battery cannot get near to that max charge rate, I have the NMC battery and it actually beats the advertised 135kW max - I saw 139.2kW Glad you are still enjoying your car, I love mine too

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Thanks billy. The LR models are little charging beasts. The saving grace is a good charging curve on the SR, having said that, if you’re stopping long enough to charge for than 50% plus, you’re probably going to grab a coffee anyway.

@fffwe3876

11 ай бұрын

made in china

@bill_heywood

11 ай бұрын

@@fffwe3876 like BMWs, Teslas, Minis, Volvos, Polestars… Not really sure what your point is

@michaelhoolahan5717

Ай бұрын

yeah save preferences would be 100% more ideal. i believe its part of the safety standards thing tho. eg. it gives higher rating for defaulting safety systems to on. nvm if they're no good...

I would wait for facelifted and upgraded version of this car

It's odd because before EVs the knock on LiFePO4 was certainly not power - it was just weight. In fact they normally outperformed most NMC cells with brands like A123 consistently achieving 10C charge and discharge curves with little affect on longevity or capacity. They had a much lower internal resistance than most NMC cells - some high power cell excepted.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

10C wow! Weight is definitely an issue. I know the MG4 SE SE and the LR weight more or less the same. I think software and how it handles the LFP has come on a long way.

Nice video! Thx! I want to buy one with same lfp. I think this is a best offer nowadays in Europe.👌

@stuart_thomas

11 ай бұрын

Many thanks for tuning in. It’s a great offer and it charges as fast as other EVs like the Kona and Niro. LFP and good optimisation is the way forward unless you want supercar performance.

@torpemonguz

11 ай бұрын

@@stuart_thomas Yeah. like a cellphones.. the question is what is the real value.. 1000 hp..or reasonable cost of the trafic. I have a pv system, so I can generate some electricity into fuel, but oil well i didn't have..😃

Great update. Would you still recommend this car, 9 months later?

I have the mg4 trophy LR and it charged easily up to 140kw no problem in vinter I just needed the preheater, in batteri menu.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Charges like a beast! Even at higher state of charge.

Hello I'm loving the videos . Could you make a video , showing the prices to charge at home and on the road ? Compares to a diesel car , I got a diesel car and would love to change to an MG4 , but I think the range for price compare to diesel to charging on the road may be the same price and not be convenient to pay more just to be eletric. Thank you .

@stuart_thomas

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment and support. It’s very difficult to compare prices as there’s so many different tariffs and prices for both home and public charging. Capped charging at home is 30p per/kWh so 30p x kWh. My home tariff is 7.5p per/kWh. Public charging is difficult. I’ve seen it as little as 30p with a subscription up to £1 p/kWh with a card reader. Best thing I can suggest is to use apps like Zapmap to check charger rates in advance before you use them. Home charging will always be much better for the £. It also depending on your use case. How many miles do you drive a week etc

Great review thanks! Definitely helped me make a decision. Just ordered an MG4 SE LR as I need the longer range. Shame the larger battery isn't LFP. How does one set battery and cabin preconditioning, say you're doing a long drive in the winter, such that cabin and battery and warm, but it will be at 100% so as not to eat into range?

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

That’s great news! Congratulations on your order. In terms of battery/cabin conditioning, this can be done via the app, it currently will only work when the car isn’t plugged in.

@LouRaX

Жыл бұрын

between the standart LFP and the Long Range batterie there is only 15KG difference. it takes the same size ! LFP is not so energy dense! so they would need more space for a bigger LFP battery

I ordered a long range Trophy last week.

I bought a MG4 STD in Ukraine a month ago and in the car specification max charging power is 85kW, so I think this is the right number, which corresponds to your tests.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I agree that’s it’s definitely the ceiling. It’s incredibly misleading from a consumer standpoint. The saving grace is the great charging curve👍

@ari197

Жыл бұрын

I think it was a late decision to flatten the charging curve, meaning lower peak but also higher valley.. I just came back from a road trip in which I use ABRP to plan my trip.. Interestingly, ABRP managed to predict how long I need to stop for charging quite accurately (within a minute or two).. So I think ABRP crew somehow got the latest charging curve info..

@ghostnetworkNL

11 ай бұрын

What price did you pay for it in Ukraine?

@2010edward1978

11 ай бұрын

@@ghostnetworkNL 25K Euros, but some items are excluded in comparison to UK/EU versions: 16 steel wheels, no leather on driving wheel, no charger included, no 4G connectivity.

@foxtrot762

10 ай бұрын

Wtf isn't Ukraine at war

Had a trophy for a couple months. For the money well competitors are in trouble with just a bit more work this would be truly great platform. Even now it’s blowing them away on what you get for your money. Seats could improve. Put back wiper back. Just a few tweaks for a like £3k extra you would have something special here. The aerodynamics are stunning for a car like this. Can tell the U.K. designed it it’s not very Chinese at all! It’s how we should be doing cars ourselves. My God we are capable…look.

I’d be interested to know your experience of rear view reversing and parking. I’ve probably become too reliant on a rear view camera, but struggled on my test drive with the MG4 SE, then as you said, going for the Trophy spec becomes less good value, and other options could be considered. Almost forgot to thank you for the very useful video 😊

@einoware436

8 ай бұрын

On all the MG cars I have tested at our dealer the rearview camera (as everything else in general) lags a lot (several times when going from drive to reverse back and forth when parking they can freeze for a minute) and overall the image quality and refresh rate are worse than anything I have seen in the past 10 years on any car. But it is there and seems to work and I have not seen one break just yet.

Love the car. The girl at the McDonalds drive thru today poked her head out and said "wow, I've never seen a car like it! It's beautiful!" I have two cons other than what you mentioned (which were spot on): 1. The volume from your phone when you're listening to a podcast or music means you have to pump the volume close to max. Then when you start again the radio deafens you. 2. My biggest bugbear: the regen is nerfed. If you let go of the pedal you'll get -17 max. Press the brake and it'll go to -25. That means that the "brake" is partially unused regen. As someone that drives pretty much without brakes and hasn't even tried any other setting that max regen, this is incredibly frustrating. One foot driving is one of the absolute joys of an EV, why nerf this awesomeness?? Grr.

@nordic5490

11 ай бұрын

No one pedal driving in a Porsch ev.

Had my Trophy for about 5 months now and done a bit over 4,000 miles. Very happy with it and I've done several long trips (260 miles+) with it. Only one minor fail was the passenger door unlock button has failed - not a big deal, but getting a replacement has proved a bit of a faff. Car is booked in for replacement soon. Overall, car has been rock solid and decent to drive. Minor irritation is the driver assistance stuff, as you say, but I'm very pleased with my car. I've seen 140kw charging speed briefly on mine........

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

That’s great Chris, pleased to hear you’re enjoying the car despite the locking issue. It seems any replacement parts are like unicorns for the time being. I’ve also seen a few 140kW speeds, that’s awesome!

@rogerwilson6367

Жыл бұрын

Driver assistance makes me want to sell mine. Bloody dangerous.

@nordic5490

11 ай бұрын

@@rogerwilson6367 you have made this comment on all the MG4 videos. That function has now been unpgraded.

@rogerwilson6367

11 ай бұрын

@@nordic5490 I made that comment on every video I could find....intentionally, before someone gets killed. When you say it's been upgraded, does that mean it stays off when I switch it off?

These MGs seem like great value EVs with nice handling, a good performance compromise, safety and attractive looks-probably the best available EV choice currently for average commuters. BTW, I noticed 3 bubbles at 9:40 . Does MG state the root cause? Most importantly it looks like you’re getting excellent after-sales customer support from MG which is a really welcome critical purchasing factor.

@stuart_thomas

9 ай бұрын

Replacement installed now - local MG took great care of the situation

MG has updated the specs in Germany, the LFP battery is quoted now at 88kW. The NMC battery is now quoted at 140kw. 140kW has been reported on the NMC battery before the refresh on the website so I assume that the LFP won't achieve more than 88kW, which is in line with your findings.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I’m pleased to hear MG are revising their marketing in Germany in line with my testing. 140kW is fantastic speeds for the NMC models, I think a minimum of 125kW should be the target for all EVs now

@MythricCorlem

Жыл бұрын

I'm picking up my standard range in germany this week. Somehow it's a little disappointing that the figures have been changed from what was advertised. Still looking forward to our first ev though.

@ndc5544p

Жыл бұрын

@@MythricCorlem Don't be, the peak numbers are absolutely meaningless. It doesn't really matter if the car charges with 117kW or 88kW if the 10-80% time is the same. Either you'll receive atrocious speeds from around 55% to 80% (117kW scenario) or have a flatter charging curve with good speeds throughout (88kW scenario) or even beyond the 80% mark. My MG4 is coming in a few months as well, but I'm coming from a Zoe so after two and a half years, 63.000km of 46kW until 50% even the 88kW look juicy to me by comparison lol. Have fun with your MG! I'm also very excited for mine!

@ndc5544p

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas As I've said to the other commenter, peak speeds aren't really meaningful. I believe a charging time of less than 25 minutes 10-80% should be the norm in this day and age. Even if the car would charge with 250kW it would do so for a few moments after which the speed will plummet like the 2008 stock market. I'd rather have something like 100kW with a flatter curve, because I'll get good speeds even outside of Ionity or other HPC's. Efficiency is also very important, a factor which ultimately led me to the MG4 was that it is almost identical to my Zoe efficiency-wise.

@Stuart Thomas thank you, you're a beta tester and I'm very happy tha these cars seems very strong ! In ten years, I'll be sure about their reliability !

@stuart_thomas

10 ай бұрын

I think they’ll fair well if mine is anything to go by. There’s many in the wild now with much higher mileage

@oliverskinner8962

10 ай бұрын

I too really want to see what an average mileage one will look like in 10 years time, especially the fabric seats ! Fingers crossed no rust 🤞

Thanks, Stuart. Great video, just subscribed. Quick question... The one thing I rarely see reviewed is a vehicle's sound system. Any thoughts on your MG4? As someone who toggles regularly between playlists and talk radio it's a consideration. Thanks ...

@stuart_thomas

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub and the question. It’s an ok sound system, I’ve heard worse and better. I have the SE which only has speakers in the front I’m very happy. I like to play it loud and I also toggle through stations on the native stereo and also Spotify through CarPlay and don’t find it challenging. The right joystick on the steering wheel can allow you to navigate the DAB presets you have saved. I hope this helps

@notoriousvig

8 ай бұрын

@@stuart_thomas Yes it does. Thanks for the candid reply. A little surprised it only has speakers in the front but glad to know you're happy with it and that related features and interface are good. I'm gonna give it a try (a listen!)

Been enjoying your videos for the MG4 and I can echo your thoughts on the car. Having had my LR trophy for about 4 days now, I sort of knew what to expect but the inability to store the driving settings is quite annoying since I did many short trips and had to reset each time. Also annoyingly, it's not on the latest infotainment (R33), it's only on v30. What that means in details I don't know but part of surfing the internet is the polarization of what's mandatory and what's not and now I'm going to have to get it updated so I can sleep properly. The only real issue for me is the way ACC behaves some times as it fails to distinguish between parked cars and traffic participants and slams the brakes on occasion quite suddenly. Once I get the SW updated, I'll be keen to see if that goes away, curious if you've been seen this as well.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great comment. Software is going to be a bit of stickler until they can run an across the board one which steps it up a level rather than bug fixes. We’ll have to sit tight. Believe it or not, the ACC is an issue in any electric car, they’re very sensitive systems, my Tesla M3 has scared the living daylights out of me on many occasions, most recently going under a bridge at 70 on the motorway and I believe the shadow on the ground made the car slam on the breaks down to 55. I rarely use this anymore as it’s alright as the drive, you can brace but for passengers it’s awful.

@mondotv4216

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas I wouldn't say it's an EV only problem. Any car with driver assist can do this. I've only ever had phantom braking on my Model 3 when using autopilot. That said it's pretty rare - happened once when car turned right from the opposite direction in front of me but it was way to conservative. It occasionally beeps at me eg when a car is parked the wrong way on a road or sometimes at pedestrian crossings where they have the safety barriers at the side and in the middle of the road but it hasn't phantom braked. The BYD is about the same but a bit more frequent with its unnecessary warnings. Not excessive though. No problem storing driver settings on either vehicle.

@Colt16v

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas I have a Kia Niro EV from december ´22 and the ACC is close to perfect. Have done around 13000km´s now and not once have it unexpectedly slammed the brakes. Had a Tesla Model 3 2021 SR+ before, and it was much much worse as you also describes. Was looking at the MG4 Luxury with the big battery, but the ACC was, to me, terrible.

Good review, well-spoken and about the right length and I agree with everything you said. We all know the Trophy Volcano Orange is the best one to buy right... hint, hint, that's the one I've got ;o) I didn't test drive mine, I just bought it outright having sold my EV6 (due to performance issue). I never want a Tesla, their Apple like approach to software just isn't for me. Pro, the car is great to drive, handles well and is great looking, a proper head turner. It charges well and the GOM is very precise (for me anyways) Con, the charging speeds are a bit too cautious, there's no rear passenger lights and the software's a bit shitty (for now hopefully). The driving aids won't stay off and it doesn't remember my preferences for power and regeneration. The damned traffic sign recognition won't stop flashing. No, I'm not speeding it's just picking up the wrong speed. It's really distracting. I'm thinking about sticking a sticker over the screen. Also, the headlights come on with just a hint of cloud in the sky. I've replaced the cover over the light sensor with a 3D printed opaque one for now. And 1 last thing, the Head unit doesn't auto light or dark theme, so this has the same effect on Android Auto. Neither does the brightness change with the modes so I'm blinded at night, or I can't see it during the day.

Good video as usual, Stuart. You've had yours for 6 months. We've had ours on ORDER for 6 months and still no nearer to actually getting it, our dealer says he knows nothing and cannot see any order status in his IT system, and MG (España) do not answer any of my emails. So today visited another MG dealer near Valencia and he said the same that he and none of the dealers can look up the order status. Yet he has more than 20 MG4's for sale, (none of a colour that we would be interested in) not one has been ordered so they can produce the cars for sale but cannot be bothered to produce the cars that have been ordered and paid for. Must be honest I am now starting to to relook at other cars and when i find one, will be cancelling our order and advising all to avoid MG in spain at all costs, especially as they do not reply to my emails . 🤬

@squareeyz

Жыл бұрын

Something off with your Dealer or supply chain. Here in the UK my SE LR was on order for barely a month before I took delivery!

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that Ian. It’s rubbish when it’s out of your ha ds

@Ian_Woods

Жыл бұрын

@@squareeyz Yep I know. People have ordered in Germany, France, UK and ireland and their dealers can tell them via their IT system the status of the order i.e if has a build slot, has been built, waiting for transport, is on a boat, etc. Yet here in Spain the dealers are telling us they cannot. I find that very, very, very difficult to believe that they do not have access to the same IT system. Plus the fact that MG España do not reply to any email whatsoever. Well I know that the Spanish motortrade has one of the worse reputation for dishonesty in all Europe but Ive never bought from one here so have no personal experience until NOW!

@Ian_Woods

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas Even if they would reply and tell me the status would be an advance, but to ignore you when you have paid is not acceptable and to me does not bode well for the future if you have one and have a problem. I have a friend, in the UK, who has just told me (he ordered the exact same colour trophy version as us 4 days before us, end of October 22) and he has been told it was built some 2 weeks ago and is now on a boat. So one would imagine that the bodywork etc as its the same colour would have been built at the same time, yet here they for some reason refuse to tell me anything or just ignore you.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Not a great way to handle your customers and they should at least try and manage your expectations (if they can I guess?).

I've got one of these on loan while my VW I.D3 is having its batteries replaced!! (2 years old) and while using android auto it would only detect my voice while stationary it was driving me mad but finally they seem to have fixed it with an update, seemed so stupid to have a hands free system that didnt work while driving

I’ve got a 2020 MG ZS Ev ,,, it’s been a great car so far ,, but now I’m thinking should I upgrade to the MG4 ?

Hey Stew, I’m guessing you’ve heard by now about the bug which caused the preheating to fail if the car is connected to the home charger & not charging…

@stuart_thomas

11 ай бұрын

Hi Graham, Indeed. Unfortunately MG tell me there’s no update for SE standard range at this time. Let’s hope that changes soon (there maybe an update but it’s not being offered) as it’s very frustrating

What's the rear visibility like? The small rear window puts me off slightly, but if the rear camera is good enough, and the parking sensors do their job I suspose it's not a huge issue?

Thanks for a great video! Very informative! I am looking to buy an EV soon. I drive 130km every day and half is highway driving at 110km/h. Can anyone tell me how highway driving affects the range of their EV?

@stuart_thomas

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great feedback. I’d say 10-15% for every 10mph less or 10-15% less for every 10mph faster

Thanks for review, i have i4, looking for an ev for wife, this looks cool

@stuart_thomas

4 ай бұрын

Good choice!

How is the heating in cold weather? Wondering how potent the heating element is and is there a heat pump? Here in Finland this is important in winter when you have to melt frost from windows in the morning.

@stuart_thomas

10 ай бұрын

No heat pump in our versions. However, never had issues in uk winter -7 coldest but I’m sure much colder where I are

Hi Stuart great video. I actually drive a Tesla Model 3 SR+….and looking at MG range when my current lease ends next year…but I am puzzled as in your video you charged your MG at a Tesla supercharger? How? I thought only Teslas could use them in UK. How does it work for payment? It’s just a non Tesla EV car (Mercedes), pulled up alongside me at Fleet Services superchargers on the M3 last week and watched the driver fail to get any charge; it just didn’t work. I know in the USA Tesla are now allowing non Teslas to use their network. Anyway if you can use use them now in uk that would be good as I was getting worried about changing from a Tesla to another EV brand and losing the supercharger network. Thanks, David

@stuart_thomas

10 ай бұрын

Thanks David. Some Tesla SC are open to all EVs, hopefully all soon once V4 are installed in more locations. Charging done through Tesla app as a ‘non Tesla owner’👍

@destinationdisney2001

10 ай бұрын

@@stuart_thomas much appreciated Stuart thank you.👍

Do you have the new software? What about intrusive LKA? Thanks

Surprised there's no mention of the reduction gearbox breather oil leak Stuart.

@sdjmchattie

Жыл бұрын

Yup me too. Mine had a new breather fitted and now, 2 months later, is leaking again.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

My car has (fingers crossed) not suffered with this issue.

Did you try a aftermarket review camera as well? if you have any luck please let the viewers know.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t but it’s on the cards

The lack of movement on the app must be frustrating. We now have an app for my BYD Atto 3 in Australia and while it's pretty basic it at least seems functional. It would be great if the battery pre heating would work - not something I really have to worry about in Sydney - maybe once or twice a year 😅

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. I’m sure MG will sort it out. I’m hopeful to test an Atto3 soon

@mondotv4216

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas I think the are too expensive in the UK. In Australia they were and are considerably cheaper.

Is there an app that you can use to turn on A/C remotely for example? What's the max load for the V2L ? I'm wondering if I can plug this in my solar system as an additional battery...

I imagine that the peak charging speeds are only for the larger battery.

How do you feel about Teslas bringing out a basic model for £25k ? Would it make you sell the MG? Curious

I had mine for 8 months now no problem at all I love it

How is the navigation or the Interface of Android Auto or Apple car play ? ... I owned a MG before, and had heavy lags in navi, and missed my exits quiet often ...

We have only ONE problem with the MG4. I cannot get hold of a Towbar for the car. It was a condition of our purchase that one would be available 'soon', that soon is now 6 months with no supply date in sight.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Someone on the MG4 fb groups has fitted one

@solentbum

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas I wonder where it came from. MG UK are currently denying that one can even be fitted!

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I think it was a 3rd party installation

“All cars come with defects”. I’ve had several new cars, a Ford Focus, two Honda Civics and currently a Volvo XC 40……ZERO DEFECTS on delivery and no defects or warranty claims. The Volvo is still under warranty.

It's a great video, the only thing is.....how much wear and tear were you expecting in 6months? You make it sound like it's doing well holding up to 6 months use

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Hi Rick, it’s more of an observation if you like and if of interest a comparison between the front and rear tyres. You’d be amazed how many people ask me about tyre wear with a view that EVs shread tyres like no tomorrow

Hi Stuart I have had my MG4 2 month now and I have load noice from the AC pump ,, wonderd if you have hade the sam issue or if you have heard about this problem ?,,,, thanks for you great videos,, have a nice day

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Hi Johnny, is it like a ticking sound?

@johnnyswe3293

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas Hi Stuart thanks for your replay,, the sound is a ticking sound from the AC pump. Have you heard or had the same experiens ?

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I hear it all the time. At least I know it's working 😂😉

@johnnyswe3293

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas 😂😂

I find my new MG 4 Trophy very irritating. After moving from a well sorted KIA I now have to put up with hopeless cruise control (I have a Ford Transit van with much better sorted and smoother adaptive cruise control and that's a 2017 model which I bought new). The software or touch screen won't react to first touch so I constantly have to poke at the screen which is annoying as it means taking your eyes off the road for too long. The lane keep assist is frightening, tugging the steering wheel from your hands so violently you think your going to steer into the on coming traffic!! I have an app on the phone telling me to plug the car in when I want it to charge but the car is already chrging. It also tells me the charging is ongoing when it has actually achieved the 80% I set of it. Charging has twice switched off during the night leaving me with a much reduced range in the morning. On the up side I like th colour, volcano orange. There are up sides to owning this heap of ****. Drive is smooth (if you don't use cruise control) and quiet. Acceleration to pass something slow is amazing. I recommend you buy the SE long range as, with the trophy, you're paying extra for things that don't work that well so you eventually just give up useing them. Oh, and someone's comment on reversing visibility. The all around camera on the Trophy is another good addition 😁

@Steve-gc5nt

10 ай бұрын

That is a shock, what with Made in China being a mark of top quality and all.

@chrispack3131

10 ай бұрын

Agree with you on the Lane Assist but cruse control works great on my model. I’ve had no issues with the charging both at home & using a supercharging station. No glitches with the screen either? My MG4 is the Icon X model as I reside in Thailand.

My iPhone is Chinese. I would definitely have an MG 4 😊

I have found that some driving settings do not persist from one drive to another, like lane keep assist or eco drive mode. I have to set these each time I drive the car, even in custom mode, regen I have mapped to steering controls so I can adjust that while I drive. Shame otherwise excellent car.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you can’t map regen to the steering controls in the SE. However, even remembering how you last drove the car would be a good half-way house.

@squareeyz

Жыл бұрын

I came from a Renault Zoe, and although the MG4 is way superior, it had a dedicated ECO button. So handy to flick between driving profiles depending on driving conditions, and the amount of energy I had left. It would be great if the software could support changing performance profile thru one of the star buttons.

@briannettlefold5484

11 ай бұрын

I seem to recall reading somewhere that car manufacturers are not allowed to have Eco mode as a default setting in EVs, since energy consumption / driving range (WLTP) is not measured in Eco mode. The default driving mode has to be the mode in which the energy consumption / driving range was measured.

What’s the effect on sudden high voltage issue or if car is stored for long time

I own a Tesla mod 3 and it’s amazing, I know three people with the MG 4 and two used to be VW owners , they ❤️ their MG 4 😊

Everything about the car is good, but this would bring it to the next level: 1: HUD 2: Mobile app redone. Basically it actually works 3: MG Pilot needs to be as good as HDA 2 (Kia/Hyundai) or Travel Assist (VE) semi autonomous systems. Even for an extra 5k I would pay it if it had this

@stuart_thomas

6 ай бұрын

It’s a good shout for upgrades. Unfortunately, I don’t see them coming soon as MG just isn’t in that place right now, they’ve very much in that infancy and trying to maintain a ‘value’ brand and get things right. Once they have established a solid software experience then I’m sure they will look to do more. Great suggestions

How is the road noise ?? I have an MG HS-PHEV and I find the road noise on electric only is noticeable. I drove a BYD Atto and it was noticeably quieter. However I really like my MG HS-PHEV apart from the road noise

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

I’ve driven a lot of EVs and MG4 is one of the quietest

In Bjørn Nylands mg4 videos he is charging with 130-140 kwh and thats in Norway. I guess they fixed it

@stuart_thomas

8 ай бұрын

He was using the Long Range battery which will charge at 130-140kw

One thing I'd really love to know, and it is something that can really irritate me in new cars. Some new cars have AV systems which dont "remember" what the last used audio input was, and just default to the radio each time you start the car. Ie, you get in your car, plug your iphone in to use carplay, and the car plays the FM radio until you select "carplay". Does this car do that?

@stuart_thomas

8 ай бұрын

Hi there, my vehicle automatically loads car play once it’s detected

One thing I haven't really heard much about in most reviews is software support. How many software updates - if any - did you receive since owning this car? ... And if you did receive any, what issues did they address? Thanks.

@stuart_thomas

Жыл бұрын

Hi thanks for tuning in. As mentioned in the video I’ve only ever had one update which was for a safety advisory.

@WildReefer

Жыл бұрын

@@stuart_thomas thanks, must have missed that comment.

Very Toyota like looks.!

12:40 MG4 I am looking at with LFP has 88kW charge limit and one with bigger battery has 140kW, so it seems about right. Are ones sold in UK advertised to have 140 for LFP?

@stuart_thomas

7 ай бұрын

Standard range (LFP only) is 88kW. SE LR/Trophy/X-Power (all long range) and Extended Range are 140kW