Cooking NBA talent at 15 is insane

@holypoop88

21 күн бұрын

Artest is full of BS. Over the past decade I’ve read articles on his scrimmage game at 16. They all have a similar outcome, he wasn’t that good as was getting cooked by the players he was trying to guard. I specifically remember one article saying he was getting cooked by Jamal Crawford. These articles that I have read in the past are further supported by Lebrons long time friend Maverick Carter who was at the game with Lebron. He stated specifically that Lebron didn’t dominate - opposite as Artest says. He stated Lebron did get a few buckets during the game, and could pass the ball; however, was not there on defense and struggled defensively.

From 15-40 Bron been elite that’s insane.

@RogerBartolay

Ай бұрын

15-45

@FireAngelChris

Ай бұрын

@@RogerBartolay lol true 🤣

@stevelumumbashabazzz5087

Ай бұрын

He’s the greatest basketball player I’ve ever seen.

@FireAngelChris

Ай бұрын

@@stevelumumbashabazzz5087 Same for me

@PresleyBody-tp9lf

Ай бұрын

Do what saying that LeBron better than Jordan

People keep insisting LeBron couldn't play in the 90s...I mean if Ron badass Artest says it..

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

Dude Ron mental lol name is Metta peace

@PotatoGunCamper

Ай бұрын

@@cheetahturner4576And? He was one of the best defenders in his era.

@fredooogoated8335

Ай бұрын

@@cheetahturner4576you hurt 😂😂😂

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

@@fredooogoated8335 yea lsu really need wrs lil we so hurt he 170lbs to small good luck

@michaelperez3720

Ай бұрын

Mofo cries for 5 minutes rolling around on the floor when he gets "injured" He ain't surviving the 90's

Metta said Lebron could have went pro at 15, that’s really saying something damn!!!!

@PETERODZZ

Ай бұрын

It's Metta. This guy is mental 😅

@fredooogoated8335

Ай бұрын

@@PETERODZZyou mad😂😂😂😂

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

@@PETERODZZ 👎 Plenty of people said the same thing .. Metta is NOT the ONLY one who's ever said that .. duh!!

@BigTris

Ай бұрын

@PETERODZZ MJ said it too, is he mental as well? Goofy ass yakub troll

@_DreStacks

Ай бұрын

Ron was a 2 way player in his prime

I wait for rashad mccants to say that lebron paid Ron artest to say this lol… there was a lot of rumour back in days that said lebron could have went to the league from his junior year in high school. He’s the greatest basketball player to ever touch the ball. You’re not going to change my mind. Go argue with your momma.

@deshantejackson7539

Ай бұрын

The same age as bron he definitely could have played at 15

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

That dude is making money off that stuff. He just another Skip

@future62

Ай бұрын

​@@marlonsmith924 I don't even know if he's making money. Dude is just a hater. I blame Gil for giving him a platform

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

​@@future62They all make money for appearing on podcasts

@hooligan5381

Ай бұрын

i'm with you dawg. i've watched both in real time and was with MJ being the GOAT but LBJ the best to ever play basketball it's not close. imagine playing so long that people actually forgot your prime. LBJ insane 😂

Im glad I have never taken Lebron for granted regardless of him having to face unreal pressure and scrutiny since being in high school and the spotlight on him day and night wherever he goes a true once in a lifetime athlete that will forever be remembered for Doing things and breaking records that He did seemingly effortlessly #Witness#Greatness

@luigirox8

Ай бұрын

I will keep this perspective in mind watching my generations superstars grow up. Especially wemby. Thanks

@JodyMan-io9yn

Ай бұрын

Jordan arse Boys and Rashad Mcjealous. Big fuckin mad rn

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

​@@luigirox8Ima miss the hell outta Bron! But the league is in good hands.

@MrAlvarez23

Ай бұрын

​@@marlonsmith924without a doubt

@MrAlvarez23

Ай бұрын

You are absolutely right. I have been watching Bron since His high school days, and it is crazy that man has done everything that right way. We will never see another player like him😢

Cavs legend Terrell Brandon said Lebron was a beast and had his games on TV as an 8th grader

@wyldeman7

Ай бұрын

I watched his high school games on ESPN when I was in college. That was wild

Metta is legendary for walking in on Kobe showering when Kobe had just lost the 08 Finals to the Celtics and saying that he will find a way to come to LA and help him win. The crazy thing is that he did.

@fredthomas5436

Ай бұрын

That's was God tier....then kobe pass him tha rock.....rest was history

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

Yeah Kobe needed more help 😂 prime Kobe couldn’t beat a bunch of “old” guys.

@CG1224_

Ай бұрын

Wasn’t Kobe around the same age as Boston’s big 3? lol

@YZ4hunnid

Ай бұрын

@@CG1224_ yeah all 4 of those guys were peers lol. KG 95' .. kobe and ray 96' and PP was 98' I think.

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@YZ4hunnid it’s just what everyone says about LeBron not being able to beat them is because they were “old”

Metta looking like he in a good space mentally, happy for him

@williambaldwin6241

Ай бұрын

Fa sho he def has mental issues but it looks like he can't along way. Never give up

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

​@williambaldwin6241 took guts to say I wanna thank my psychiatrist after his chip!

15yrs old! Think about who you were at 15,lebron was playing pros as a baby and holding his own

@earlyreed357

Ай бұрын

NO TF HE WASN'T. Shut all that down you talkin.....

@McLovin25165

Ай бұрын

@@earlyreed357so a LOT of NBA pros lying?

@shaulyehudah29

Ай бұрын

@@earlyreed357 wtf would they lie about this for?

@lloydstanford6070

Ай бұрын

I was fat and playing halo 3

@stevelumumbashabazzz5087

Ай бұрын

@@earlyreed357 you were pissing on your bed at 15

Lebron a pro at 15 is crazy. Wow

@atlanta1290

Ай бұрын

The numbers don’t add up, LBJ turned 17 in 2001. He would’ve been 16 during the summer 2001.

@Cain353

Ай бұрын

​@@atlanta1290Yeah, he was 16 in the summer of 2001.

People forget Bron was a man child. At 15, he was a big and strong kid built like a man. Same for Amari Stoudemire, he came into the league straight from HS and bullied grown men 😂😂

@Anthonydu01630

Ай бұрын

Bron was big for his age, but he was like 6’7 220 at the time, so basically like a young Kawhi, Tatum or PG. So he was big but not Zion big, Zion was already 270pounds in college, so i don’t know how much he weighed when he was 16, but probably around 250 so he was as heavy as a 23-24 yo Lebron already, thats a real man child lol, even in his rookie year Lebron was « only » 240

@telmolicious

Ай бұрын

Who forgot? 😂

@jeffsullivan4150

Ай бұрын

​@@Anthonydu01630Don't think "man child" was used to say he was the biggest kid ever. I think they meant his combination of size, ability, understanding of the game etc made him well beyond his years from a basketball standpoint.

@JeffSayYes

Ай бұрын

Oden came in at 50 years old

@BoyDanny93

Ай бұрын

@@Anthonydu01630 Then what about Shaq before 18

At 15 MJ was cut from his team. At 38 he was a shell of himself. Took yrs off in his prime. Bron sustained greatness the entire time. Never quit the grind.

@thezabarte1

Ай бұрын

All that and still have more accolades than Lebron 😂

@synceno821

25 күн бұрын

lebron have sports science around him. he literally have oxygen chamber on his apartment on his ig

@kungfukenny8098

17 күн бұрын

Really helps that lebum is juiced to the gills

Bron was playing nba players at 15 while Jordan was getting cut from his high school team

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

What that have do with nba goat lol

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@cheetahturner4576means MJ wasn’t good enough and needed more high school experience and needed 3 years of college to become the player Bron was at 15. Try to think about where you were at 18 and be asked to be the face of the league. I don’t think many people could handle that pressure

@idgaf5794

Ай бұрын

@@DE4D_Poolhe wasn’t the face of the league at a 18 why do ya make things up

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@idgaf5794 bro he was literally on every cover of all the sports magazines “the chosen one” and his high school games were on ESPN. The nba was preparing him for it before he even entered the league. He definitely was being groomed for it as MJ was making his exit. Then magically his home town team gets the number 1 pick? Riiight keep lying to yourself but we all know he was the face of the league from day one ☝️

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

@@DE4D_Pool 👍

Idk why people stay away from that pick up game and not elaborate....i think bron was really cooking and embarrassing nba players at that oick up game

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

Or maybe lebron was getting cooked

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@cheetahturner4576if Bron was getting cooked the world would have known about it

@TheReal-trublu357

Ай бұрын

@cheetahturner4576 they would of definitely said he was getting cooked...

@BLloydcreator

Ай бұрын

I never heard of that one cornball ​@@cheetahturner4576

@archiepasagui3168

Ай бұрын

​@@cheetahturner4576 scoring 25points against pro with mj? he was really totally cooking mike.

Lebron at 15 was So great that he was able to give nba players a run for they money while Jordan at age 15 couldn’t make his high school basketball team for some reason people / new era haters love to hate Lebron for being a once in a lifetime player / athlete it’s easy to hate when you have seen someone be great they whole entire life in 21 seasons Lebron Is a 20 time all star and 20 Time all NBA player let that sink in #Witness

@jerryren3213

Ай бұрын

longevity merchant

@ginuwinereynolds7291

Ай бұрын

You just proved that MJ is better caused he improved at a faster rate than Lebron. He hasn't improved on alot of his weaknesses while Jordan did.

@raymondsims7042

Ай бұрын

@@ginuwinereynolds7291don’t be dumb mate jordan is better but not because of whatever garbage you just said

@Ace-fe8gc

Ай бұрын

@@ginuwinereynolds7291actually we’ve seen LeBron evolve his game more than we’ve seen Jordan. We’ve never seen a Jordan shoot 40% from 3 with a high volume of 3 point shots. We’ve never seen Jordan play point guard and center in the same season. LeBron has legit played every position and came in at the shooting guard position coming off screens and shooting middy’s

@ginuwinereynolds7291

Ай бұрын

@@Ace-fe8gc Lebron's game has barely evolved. LMAO!! He still can't shoot 80% from FT line, still has bad footwork, still can't shoot going to his right, still has no post game, still has no consistent mid range game, and most important can't play off the ball

I like that Ron had to remind us that if Mike got the ball he’d score

15 and could've been in the league? SHEESH

Bron the most hyped up player of all time.

@deandreawilkins431

Ай бұрын

Bron was 15 on pro level Bron different goat 🐐 💯

@BoyDanny93

Ай бұрын

And live it all up to expectations, actually beyond expectations

@maxdesimus2072

18 күн бұрын

What rreally crazy is , he lived up to all the "hype"

Legendary story

LeBron in year 17 is better than prime Charles Barkley. Bron won the chip that year

@earlyreed357

Ай бұрын

You sound all the way crazy. Like fck the helmet imma ride this bus no matter how many times my head hit.

@williambaldwin6241

Ай бұрын

​@@earlyreed357 well then babie girl. Tell Dad how you feel. I can teach you about the game lil guy.

King James will be miss when he's gone. Who will step up and be the face of the league.

@telmolicious

Ай бұрын

Plenty of players can. Ant is the most likely because he’s American and talks a lot.

@tyriquetaylor7827

Ай бұрын

Plenty of players can’t .. yall don’t even know what being the face means.. only person who can be the face is Ant or Wemby.. have to have the following and the talent. And personality

@telmolicious

Ай бұрын

@@tyriquetaylor7827 You don’t know what grammar is nor what the word “y’all” means. I’m one person writing “plenty of players can”. Face of the league is simply who most ppl think of when it comes to the nba. If Bron retires in a couple of years it could still be Curry. Second may be Durant. Then again, maybe Ant or Wemby have overtaken them but it’s tough to overtake such notoriety.

@PETERODZZ

Ай бұрын

Not me. Can't wait for that MF floper to exit the league

@lamarlashley8738

Ай бұрын

Lonzo ball

Metta has so many stories

What kind of slides is Paul George wearing? 2:54

@Alwaysbelieve619

Ай бұрын

salehe crocs

Lebron the greatest player I’ve ever seen. Goat 🐐!!

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

Ok blind man

@michaelperez3720

Ай бұрын

Its ok lil boy, that just means you're ignorant and don't know that much.

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

👑LEBRON🐐

@mohamedelmi5462

Ай бұрын

Based on what minus just paying for longer then everyone else

Did you notice how Metta said he couldnt remember that because Jordan and Lebron never were on the same court together, lebron confirmed this in his early interviews look it up.

Met Ron a few times. Trained with his son when I was in school.

Kobe was that mamba mentality and Lebron was that goat mentality

@drphot6050

Ай бұрын

It means the same thing lol

@michaelperez3720

Ай бұрын

Lmfao lebron is the run away from a hard challenge ge screaming "I NEED HELP" and gets help from already established allstar/ hof players to only have a losing record when it matters most and the most finals losses in mba history

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

​@@michaelperez3720And 2nd.most FMVPS! There's that! Lol

@kungfukenny8098

17 күн бұрын

⁠@@marlonsmith924and most finals losses by a pantheon player. There’s that!

@marlonsmith924

16 күн бұрын

Tied with Jerry West, who DOEST HAVE 4FMVPS

Why I just found this out now 😭

Weeeee NEED THE FOOTAGE lol

Backcourt of bron and mj is just unreal to think about

Lol he says LeBron was on Mike's team. He didn't want that SMOKE

Yo like I would have been star struck just to watch all those pros in one gym.

Lebron at 15 crazy!!!! Cooking NBA guys but yall always say he’s not a dawg or don’t got it in him I say it all the time you can’t get this far without having dawg in you 🤣🤣🤣 smh

PAUL MCPHERSON 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 CHICAGO LEGEND !!!

I laugh when people say Lebron isn’t the best ever. Especially younger Lebron… unbelievably gifted and athletic on both ends of the floor. I never understood the physicality of eras argument either? If he did play back then, he’d be able to use his size waaaaay more on defense. It’d be absolutely suffocating

bron and mj on the same team is wild

Lebron is like Shohei Ohtani of baseball ⚾

I remember because Mav told me they went. LBJ was a goon early and still lol We are the kids from Akron … I think Bron was 16

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

THEY were there, and THEY said 15 *(lebron was a sophomore in highschool)* duh!!

@Cain353

Ай бұрын

​@@eyewatch2see77This was the summer of 2001. LeBron was 16.

@delldorado9892

21 күн бұрын

@@eyewatch2see77 you dumb for that comment. Lol I know them personally. LeBron was 16

Metta World Peace is a LAKER LEGEND for bombing threes and blowing kisses against BOS in Game Seven. Bryant's rebounding and his timely shots secured Title #16

Bron is just a freak of nature

You played nasty from the start

MJ wasn't even close to Lebron at 12 years old . At 16 Lebron was being considered to be a pro while MJ was being cut in his highschool team .

@MrAnthero7

Ай бұрын

What's your point? Players blossom at different times. No one cares who was better at 12 yr old lmao

@michaelperez3720

Ай бұрын

And as professional basketball players lebron is by far inferior to Michael Jordan AND Kobe Bryant.

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

*@benjaminpadilla* 👍 EXACLTY!! Lebron's been GREAT "his entire basketball existence" THAT's the "true" meaning of his longevity ..

@earlyreed357

Ай бұрын

​@@michaelperez3720Take that man draws out you mouth. You sound like a got DAMMMMMMMM fool.

@johnnythekid4601

Ай бұрын

lebron was also the best at those runs when he was 15 at taking the stinkiest shit too i bet... lets put that in there too... how about the longest fart?

And of course the haters gonna not believe metta. 😂

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

The numbers don’t add up, LBJ turned 17 in 2001. He would’ve been 16 during the summer 2001.

Lebron may not the greatest basketball player, but he has the greatest NBA career by a mile. The amount of pressure young Lebron was already facing before even entering the league was insane. He went beyond all expectations. Dude is still getting criticize in his late 30's for how good he is. Others would've had a mental breakdown.

Everyone know MJ retired in 03 bc Bron was coming

Leflop! Peds is one hell of a drug.

@dantewilliams7458

Ай бұрын

Grow up

Bron said he was on Jordan team

@synceno821

25 күн бұрын

that was 2004.

🔥🔥

Wizards Jordan ain’t dropping no 30 a game 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@cheetahturner4576

Ай бұрын

Casual look up most points in nba history by age damn fool

@user-ih7cd6xv5z

Ай бұрын

MJ ain’t losing no finals or going 7 games neither 😂

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@user-ih7cd6xv5zwho did MJ face in the finals? A bunch of nobodies. Did MJ ever face 7 footers that could shoot lights out like Dirk and KD.. no. Did MJ face the greatest shooter in nba history… no. Did MJ face a player like Tim Duncan and a spurs team that had 3 HOF players in their prime? Nope. Well he did face the Celtics and we all know what happened… he was taking L’s. He just got lucky he didn’t face the pistons, lakers and Celtics in the finals

@Bottles93145

Ай бұрын

@@DE4D_Pool you just named a bunch of dudes that beat Lebron in the finals. Yall clowns always say he faced nobodies but he stopped a bunch of hall of famers from getting rings. You said a bunch of nonsense and don’t even know what you’re talking about. Jordan never beat the Celtics in the playoffs but he swept Detroit and beat the Lakers 4-1 for his 1st ring. He ended the pistons’ potential dynasty and killed the lakers’ dynasty in 91’. Do your homework kid…

@DE4D_Pool

Ай бұрын

@@Bottles93145 the lakers were already a dynasty son and Magic was old with aids. MJ didn’t beat anyone. The same Spurs MJ ran from as soon as Tim Duncan got into the league otherwise MJ loses to Duncan and David Robinson in 99. LeBron has faced wayyyyy tougher competition in his career and it’s not even close. KD and Steph on the same team? Who in MJ’s career compares to that? Duncan, Manu, Tony Parker and Kawhi? What team did Jordan face that compared to that? Hardin, KD and Russ? Sit down little girl this debate is over

Bron bron is a monster!

this doesnt diminish lebron's legacy as the undisputed 9th greatest of all time!

Now 21 YEAR OLD in the LEAGUE still ELITE BASKETBALL

0:01 Paul George by Draymond Green is a 😬😬😬😬🤫 get in the gym and off the couch talking sport it's disingenuous ~GOATS HAVE MULTIPLE RINGS IN ANY SPORT~ 👁👁 BLINK BLINK

Lebron had games on tv in 8th grade

Title is misleading! Heard this story b4 by Metta on another pod!🤷🏾‍♂️😒

@runninwitdatmop152

Ай бұрын

Must be a Jordan fan girl

@drizzy-jz6wb

Ай бұрын

@@runninwitdatmop152 facts I bet he watched the whole clip again

@Wisestomatoe

Ай бұрын

Naw the tittle is facts lil Jordan meat rider

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

@druzo how is the title misleading (it's not) Metta is repeating a story he's already told somebody DIFFERENT is asking him about it ... duh!!

LeBalco🤔🤔

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

B asketballSkills A uthentic L ongevity C areer O rganic

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

Playing in the OLYMPICS again this year! Strange how yall say he's on em but they never catch him! Lol

Pdale in the house(Ave.p and 30th west)!! Metta need to chill with the lebum crap...yall gotta stop talkin bout that dude like he a great, bro had all stars and stacked teams in the weak east and stole some easy rings...he cane to the west and got exposed.... Kobe did it in the west his whole career going up against the most stacked teams in NBA history with just Pau and went back to back...yall cant sit there and tell me with a str8 face that kobe ain't better than LeBron...period

Jawdon😂

why is everyone doing a podcast now lol

Hey Paul George, you should probably be spending your time in the gym, rather than sitting around talking shite, after that brutal performance again in the playoffs!

King was an allstar level st 15 and still is now at 40

CAP!! Jordan never played against....LeBron in any game!!

@TwanVRr39O

Ай бұрын

Awww you sound butt hurt goofy, shut up and watch the damn video

Duture clown😂😂😂

When Jordan was 38 I’m pretty sure Lebron was 16-17 lol just saying 💀

@raymondsims7042

Ай бұрын

What’s your point?

@AlexSmith-gw5kw

Ай бұрын

He had just turned 16 basically

@runninwitdatmop152

Ай бұрын

if it was the other way around you wouldn’t had said this 😂😂

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

*@goldmo* WRONG!!! Lebron was a "sophomore" in highschool

@raymondsims7042

Ай бұрын

@@runninwitdatmop152 I’m lost on his point. What’s he trying to say?

Broooo

But bron couldn’t play in the 90s.. lol yea right

Why u guys always have to bring up bron a** literally in every episode? U been milking this guy since he was 15, smh!

@raymondsims7042

Ай бұрын

Every single basketball podcast, show, discussion, comment section etc… anything basketball related he’s being mentioned somehow. I get it he’s a legend but it’s absolutely ridiculous at this point.

@Obstakill

Ай бұрын

This what happens when you’re the baby goat and he still playing at a high level

@runninwitdatmop152

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 if it was mj or Kobe it’ll be cool

@chuckk2fuego76

Ай бұрын

@@runninwitdatmop152right most these people ain’t even fw Kobe until he died…let Bron get his shine

@drizzy-jz6wb

Ай бұрын

@@chuckk2fuego76 no bs folks stop glazing Kobe around that series when he had Dwight and Nash on his team and then when he passed away he was called the greatest 😂 he had maybe 5 seasons where he was the best player in the league

Second

First🎉

There just tryna hype up this Brony agenda

Man peace know lebron cooked em 1v1 😂 he just wanna stay cool with Mike

@Cain353

Ай бұрын

LeBron played on MJ's team... There's other video's talking about this.

@synceno821

25 күн бұрын

​@@Cain353 that's 2004 scrimmage. 2001 is where 15yo LeBron cooked nba all star players

@Cain353

24 күн бұрын

@@synceno821 Nope. This is about the 2001 Summer pickup games with Jordan before Jordan played with the Wizards. LeBron was 16 in the summer of 2001.

@synceno821

24 күн бұрын

@@Cain353 yeah 2001 is where lebron cooked nba all stars including jordan and 2004 is where he's teammate with mj

@Cain353

24 күн бұрын

@@synceno821 Nope. Try again.

P

He definitely cooked Jordan Artest cant tell the truth and u can see it in his face 😂

@Cain353

Ай бұрын

Jordan and LeBron were on the same team... Don't you think if the self proclaimed King played against Jordan AND cooked Jordan he himself would be bringing it up every chance he gets?

For some reason I think they played against each other but it will be put out in footage when bron retire….i think every player that was there that day have been tight lipped about bron and Jordan runs there.

The LeGlazers are about to have a filed dah on this....😂!!!!! Still don't matter he a walkin garbage can.....20 yrs amd 3 chips!?!? I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!!

Tired of the rib story after this lls

I’m surprised he didn’t say “MJ proceeded to drop 50 on me the next game.”

bruh go win a chip

@UntilChill

Ай бұрын

Bro is trying to lol. A lot of great players never do.

There are no goats in that family, its a joke to even think it. How much is labron paying these guys seriously

@eyewatch2see77

Ай бұрын

👑LEBRON 🐐

LeBron can't get pass Kobe to be number #2 and Micheal #1

@raymondsims7042

Ай бұрын

Kobe’s is my personal idol/favorite player ever but he’s not number 2 all time. Number 2 is either ksreem or lebron it’s pretty much a toss up. I think I’d give it to lebron slightly

@stevelumumbashabazzz5087

Ай бұрын

He’s definitely a better player than Kobe

@Anthonydu01630

Ай бұрын

Lol

@Anthonydu01630

Ай бұрын

Kobe isnt even Top 5, not even better than Tim Duncan who went 5-1 in the Finals, 1 Ray Allen shot away from being 6-0 like MJ, and he won 3 FMVP and 2 MVP, Kobe only 2 FMVP and 1 MVP, and Duncan didn’t play with prime Shaq (Best player in the world between 98 and 2004), his first 8 seasons… You see Jokic todays ? Well Shaq was just as dominant if not more ! Kobe was just Jamal Murray in the 4 Finals they made together, Shaq won all 3 FMVP, even Shaq is better all time than Kobe, at least if you value peak over longevity like most MJ stans 😉

@stevelumumbashabazzz5087

Ай бұрын

@@Anthonydu01630 Kobe is not even the greatest laker of all time. To me the greatest laker of all time is magic Johnson.

Lebron has no business being in the GOAT conversation. Can we stop this nonsense Dumbest debate in all of sports. LeBron against 50 win teams is 20-14- MJ is 20-7 -LeBron against 60 win teams is 3-4 MJ is 7-2 -LeBron played with players who had a combined 100 all star appearances -MJ had 10 combined all stars -Nearly 200 players will be involved in trades on Lebron's teams -LeBron is 4-6 in the finals including getting swept 2x and gentleman sweep 2x -MJ is 6-0 -Lebron is the ONLY player in the top 10 with a losing record in the finals -LeBron has 1 scoring title MJ had 10 -LeBron has 5 1st team defense and hasn’t won any in OVER 10 YEARS MJ has 9 -LeBron has 0 DPOY MJ has 1 -LeBron has 0 3 peats MJ has 2 -LeBron has 0 steals titles MJ has 3 -LeBron has 4 MVP's and hasn’t won any in 11 Years MJ has 5 -LeBron has 4 finals MVP's MJ has 6 -Lebron missed the playoffs 4x MJ 2x -LeBron streak of not losing 3 in a row-128 MJ-626 -LeBron plays in the weakest defensive era in NBA history -MJ played in the toughest (hand checking, much more physical and greatest big men era in history) -LeBron is 11-31 in game tying or winning shots in the playoffs MJ is 9-18 -LeBron is 21-118 on GW shots total MJ is 28-54 -Lebron all time leader in turnovers and soon to be missed shots -LeBron shoots 38% for his CAREER beyond 3 feet from the basket, 72% from the FT line -MJ is the all time leader in ppg in both regular season and post season at 30.1 and 33.5 and considered to be one of the greatest jump shooters in history -% of 1st place votes for MVP in career Lebrob-26% MJ-36% -Seasons with scoring title and 1st team def LeBron-0 MJ-9 -Seasons with top 5 MVP Lebron-5 MJ-9, 5 wins and 4 2nd place -MJ never lost a championship game on any level -Reg season in top 10 in def win shares, plus/minus and def rating Lebron-WS-7 Plus/minus-7 Def rating-3 MJ- WS-8 Plus/minus-8 Def rating-4 -Seasons winning chip, FMVP, MVP, scoring title and 1st team defense Lebron-0 MJ-4 -Championships without multiple AS Lebron-1 MJ-6 -MJ has more 30ppg and 50% shooting seasons than Steph Curry, KD, LeBron, James Harden and Kobe combined -Lebron has cheated game by flopping and teaming up with 2 other top 10 players in their prime. -MJ made players better by his intensity in practice and demanding excellence from them and himself -Teams with 20 or less wins -Lebron 18 from 2010-2019 East-12 West-6. 14 of 18 were in LeBron's conference -MJ-19 in the 90’s East-5. 2 in 94 West-14 -5 out of 19 were in MJ’s and 2 were years he didn’t play MJ at 33 yrs old played all 82 games, 1st team defense, All Star, All star MVP, All NBA, scoring champ, MVP, Finals MVP and champion Lebron at 33 Played all 82 games, all star, All NBA MJ at 34 played all 82 games, 1st team defense, All NBA, all star, scoring champ, Finals MVP and champion Lebron at 34 Played 55 games, ALL NBA, All star and missed playoffs MJ at 35 played all 82 games, 1st team defense, All Star, All star MVP, All NBA, scoring champ, MVP, Finals MVP and champion Lebron at 35 played 67 games, All Star, All NBA, finals MVP and bubble champ

@UnL1m1t3D38

Ай бұрын

Elaborating that well doesn't make you an expert bruv. Your just a hater. I'm a LeBron fan for long but I consider Jordan as the number 1 GOAT. But your rant there doesn't make sense since some of that are opinionated. While Jordan is currently unsurpassable, Lebron have something to say in the conversation too. Those who deny that are just purely haters. He could be number 3,4, or 5 but not including him in the Greatest of all is clearly stupid. As the best prospect, he clearly exceeded the expectations. because he was compared too much and battled too much with MJ, that's the reason people disrespecting him cuz "he didn't surpassed" Jordan. Lol he doesn't even need to surpass someone to be in the conversation cuz right before he got 4 chips, his stats and individual accomplishments are already qualified in the GOAT convo. Stop making Jordan like "he's the only one in the conversation" like bruh, Jordan's the GOAT on top but he's not the only great player out of many.

@tumbacuero

Ай бұрын

Ya Jordan fans make that nigga like he can’t be touch wtf if he was so great why he didn’t win one Without Pippen ✌🏾

@painethepoet4481

Ай бұрын

Why did you stop Lebrons at 35 ? Stop cuttin his career short

@louralls1

Ай бұрын

You said LeBron played with guys that totaled 100 all-star appearances and MJ only 10. Why bring LIES into the debate? It makes all the "research" you provided non credible. MJ played with George Gervin, Artis Gilmore and Robert Parrish...that's 25 playoff appearances right there. He played with Pippen, Rodman, Richard Hamilton, BJ Armstrong, Horace Grant and Stackhouse ALL of them were all stars...that another 19 appearances. If you lie to debate...that means you are fabricating evidence...which means you feel like you don't have strong case.

@TheReal-trublu357

Ай бұрын

​@louralls1 I think it's funny how they bring up ALL of lebrons teammates , like he had 40 man roster with all of them on the same team...like bruh NONE of lebrons teams were as stacked as the bulls with Rodman pippen kucoc kerr ect. Ect.

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