black swan hits different after the festa dinner 😪 anyways, this song is in my top 10 favorite bts songs 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with this, I didn’t hear it before hand but after hearing it and know where they are now, it’s a very powerful and telling song

@sundycy

2 жыл бұрын

YES!! You are so right!

@Manueelaa

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it does... 😪 I thought Black Swan was more or less hypothetical and about the fear that they may lose their passion for music someday. I didn't think they were so close to actually feeling that way

@sundycy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Manueelaa From all the years we follow these boys we should know better. We should know that they literally write their hearts in their songs. Lately i really have this in the back of my mind that, they are not well, especially Namjoon. He always wear his heart on his sleeves and now it looks to me that they are pushing them too hard after Festa. I might be wrong of course, but this is my thoughts.

Blackswan is part of the MOTS7, thery're supposed to do the anthology album after MOTS7 with the samw reason they told use during festa. Nobody understood that the meaning of this songs is what they truly feel. When suga said during festa that it now hurts, that they are now just forcing themselves to come up witj music because they dont have something to say anymore, that really hit hard. That this song Black Swan is really what they meant. We've been blinded by all these visuals and aiming the goal of making thwm on top but we never anticipate that they are really tired and musically exhausted. I jusy admire the fact that they hung foranother 2yrs because of covid. Releasee chart topping songs and BE album were just amazing. Things happen for a reason. And the postponement of their 'break' means making them move to top more, their level is insane. You think 2019 was their peak, no. It's 2021-2022, and who knows? Maybe these coming months and years we would see them break their own records AGAIN & call that their peak once more. ❤️🫰🏻

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Right?! I totally agree with this and like they said.. I think their best is yet to come! Can’t wait to see what a refreshed and refocused BTS look like!

@indri2137

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree 💜

@MsJanoli

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree…everything happens for a reason..I might sound greedy but i would not know them if the pandemic did not happen..

@stargems

2 жыл бұрын

so true. so many layers and twists and turns. grateful they stayed the course in 2020 but also appreciate their need to take time to get reinspired now

@alifc1082

2 жыл бұрын

Agree mostly, but tgeur pick was 2019, artistcly, after that the just poored their pandemic thoughts and emotions into BE, that has great songs on it, but people paid little attention as they got to absorbed into "uhh they sing in English" and charts. That's just popularity

Jimin is the black swan, all the members said he just embodies the song. Watching him dance is mesmerising, There is a Bangtan Episode about Jimin doing the dancing for the mv and he was also the shadows for everyone on stage. Black Swan is a beautiful song and the mv is exquisite in detail.

@kelleybell865

11 ай бұрын

Jimin was/is a contemporary dancer which shows and is absolutely beautiful

After hearing BTS talked about their struggles during the 2022 Festa Dinner, and knowing that they are originally planning the "Chapter 2" after releasing "ON" and following up with the "Map of the Soul 7 World Tour"... i realized that even before the pandemic, BTS has been struggling all these years about losing their passion, their essence, their inspiration ...and lyrics of "Black Swan" just made more sense to me now. I'm more thankful for "PROOF" Anthology album every day. If BTS had ended chapter 1 with MOTS:7 they'd have left with songs like Black Swan, We are Bulletproof the Eternal, Louder than bombs and Shadow, which are so full of pain. With PROOF They gave us Yet to Come, For Youth and Run BTS instead, and they're full of resolve and hope.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Right?! I totally agree with this! I didn’t get to see or hear this song before the festa dinner but I know how it feels to me now knowing what that dinner meant

@h.vgavriel5838

Жыл бұрын

Never think about that, but I totally agree ! Yes Proof is not only an anthologie of their grown as artists, but also a promise for the future

@mpgisbtsarmybaefighting2838

Жыл бұрын

Beautiful comment👍💜

This shows Jin’s progress over the years so well. His fluidity is so incredibly better. He has always been my bias from day one and he just continued to be better and better. Love me some Jin. ❤

Like you said, “Black Swan” is inspired by a quote: “A dancer dies twice. The first time is when he stops dancing and this first death is much more painful”. “Black swan” is about their fear that some day they’ll lose their passion for music and this would be their first death. They chose to use autotune in this song was to show the group's shadow (they're deepest collective fears/secrets) vocally, the fear being that they would fall out of love with their craft. It was RMs idea to use the autotune to blend their voices, (which makes sense since he adores Kanye and Kanye uses autotune on his vocals). Black swan is based on Jung's work of the map of the soul where the shadow, ego and persona (and more) are all equally important parts to a person's construct. The dance moves in particular you can see in the beginning they pluck what seems to be invisible string instruments, while at the end of the choreography they seem to be hanging by those very strings like puppets. Their shadow (fear/secret) has consumed them. Ok, so... the song draws inspiration from both the ballet (Swan Lake) in it's choreo and imagery, but also draws a lot of inspiration from the movie "Black Swan", which in turn is heavily based on the Japanese anime film "Perfect Blue". Both movies break identity and deal (in a non-obvious way) with Carl Jung's theory of the self: Persona, Ego, Shadow. In these movies, a female performer spirals into insanity as increased pressures in her career cause her to lose grip of herself and reality. “Black Swan” tells the story of Nina, a passionate ballerina (Natalie Portman) who struggles to maintain her sanity while competing for the main role (the White Swan, Odette) in “Swan Lake.” Meanwhile, “Perfect Blue” follows Mima, a former (Japanese) pop idol whose sense of reality begins to waiver as she attempts to transition into a career as a serious actress. Both stories feature a female protagonist is put in highly stressful situations and that makes them question their identity and ultimately conjure up a doppelganger that messes with their psyche (persona, shadow and ego, basically clash). Just as Nina suffers from the pressures of being a ballerina, Mima is also forced to deal with the strict expectations of being a Japanese idol. Their personal conflicts also bleed into their professional lives causing them to spiral out of control. In Nina’s case, it comes in the form of her oppressive mother and in Mima’s situation, it’s an obsessive stalker fan. At the core of the film, both protagonists have a psychological battle with themselves that results in hallucinations that blurs the lines between fiction and reality. In the end, like I said, these films break the self and deal with themes like loss of passion and the heartbreak that come with working for your dreams. Black Swan (BTS), at its core, reflects these themes. I think that Perfect Blue can be chillingly on point for BTS, since they too are idols and experience some of the things that Mima experienced as an idol and continues to go through. BTS reflect the core concepts of these movies, identity, and conceptualise them to reflect their fear of losing their passion for music and, by extension, losing themselves. They portray people who are afraid that music is all there is to them and are afraid of losing themselves if they lose their passion. And ohhhh boy, Jimin's dance haha he did train in ballet, albeit very minimally and as part of his main focus, which was contemporary and that's what he mostly trained for during high school. He is "professionally" trained in contemporary, hip-hop and idol dance. Even the members have said that Black Swan is Jimin's song, that he embodies the black swan. This is further highlighted in the 2020 MAMA version of Black Swan, where he does a duet with Jungkook! (here's the link for a breakdown of the moment twitter.com/mintynkks/status/1335236325373448192?s=20&t=2C90i3inGV9MBv5dgoiYQA Spoiler alert, since I dunno if you plan to react to the 2020MAMA performance. Which I HIGHLY recommend, it has an amazing performance of Dynamite as well). Anygays, Jimin's dance style is unique and probably near impossible to replicate since its highly influenced by his 8+ years experience in martial arts + hiphop training. +idol training + his contemporary (and minimal ballet and Korean traditional) training. He does a lot of tricking and aerials you could see with his medialuna (which is a very dangerous movement to do, because you can easily overrotate and injure your ankles) and with his movements here twitter.com/pjmgem/status/1466261374355402757?s=20&t=u_YLlw3YOrAu5eb2FaijzA and here twitter.com/jikookheart/status/1465173437589110788?s=20&t=u_YLlw3YOrAu5eb2FaijzA, during the live performance, where he basically does a one-handed cartwheel to cover more space. Black Swan is one of my favourite songs from BTS!

Suga had said once, that he was afraid of losing the passion for creating. 😢

I absolutely love Suga and Jhope in this gives me goosebumps and they way Jimin dancing in the mv is memorizing 💜 one of my all time favorites. Have a kick ass day !!!

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so good! Honestly their lines in this song were intense and I loved them!

@xthesnowyx2897

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive 100% correct and you can feel the emotions they are wanting to show us. Nothing more powerful than words and actions

I am so stoked that you're reacting to this finally! I knew you're going to understand this song from the first line, because most reactors I watched who are also musicians/dancers/artists understood immediately.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🙌 for real thank you so much! I’m pretty happy it didn’t go over my head lol but it just resonates with me a ton with my love for creating music.

I trained in dance for 10 years a lifetime ago. (Yes, I died my first death.) But I found BTS looking for dance videos as I still find them relaxing. A year and a half ago the algorithm gave me Permission to Dance. It was cute and the dancing was really good. But I wondered if they did anything more difficult. That is when I discovered Black Swan. I was hooked seeing Jimin and the guys in the first few seconds. My dancer radar sounded an alarm! I am always so impressed by their dancing. I remember thinking how very different this is from anything I had ever seen by a band. Then I dissected the lyrics. That is when I decided I was going into the rabbit hole. Great vocals, rap, dance and deep lyrics.

Ah this experience masterpiece visually stunning in every performance 🎭 & musically

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with this!! Learning how to play it on guitar right now too lol

Holy sh_t, I'm impressed! 🤯👍 Not many people know that quote by Martha Graham! (And that "guitar effect" is a traditional Korean string instrument called a gayageum. 😉)

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

I’m slightly obsessed with Quotes and one liners 😂 I have a notebook of them that I write down when I hear a good one and that stuck out to me as a really scary truth (I related it to my love for music and writing) I’ve never played on of those before but I bet I can learn those notes on a guitar! Totally going to do a YT short soon for it!

@imajinallthepurple

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive I bet you can! 🤘😎🤘 Wanna hear something funny? Jin plays the ukulele too! And he has a thing for sunglasses as well! 😂

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

@@imajinallthepurple lol he’s a better looking version of me!! I freakin love how similar we are!!

@AlexaOleksa

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive Actually Martha Graham quote is in Black Swan MS Dance performance group Music video!!! So i literally squealed when you mentioned it!!

Really enjoy your reactions! Brilliant interpretations and insight. In rehearsals you will see V wear extra large clothes. He has a skin condition called Cholinergic Urticaria - when his body temperature rises he has that itchy feeling. I thought it funny when you mentioned during the dance rehearsal video that his clothes flowed like a swan.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I had heard that I think before somewhere but honestly it’s a whole vibe he had with his style and I hope he doesn’t feel self conscious about it

This is gonna be a long comment: With respect to how you have mentioned numerous times how bts is helping you in self discovery and reigniting a lot of your passions, what comes to my mind is what I always think about, when people newly hear about bts. If you were stuck in the prejudices and stereptypes of the majority, and forcefully listened to them or gave up on them fully to satisfy the majority, you would have lost such a crucial experience bts provides. They are great because they have masterpieces in possibly any genre that fits a certain lots taste. But they transcend to greater brilliance and are legendary by the fact that once you accept their talent and get rid of your prejudices, it no more matters what genre, what choice of art, what industry, what language it is, but only and only their ability to make you as an audience feel every emotion and discover your own self through them! Even if you are pleased by their few works and are an ARMY, one will never fully understand the impact they have until they experience that journey that bts's works puts you through. I come from India and have trained in classical dance and music. If you read through theories of the creation of a perfect artist it actually gets very spiritual. And how you as an artist can ignite a spark in the audience is so detailed, it will blow one's mind. That kind of artistic growth I have seen in BTS and as a growing artist myself I have such deep respect for them.

Love,love,love, the full experience reactions that you do! Going through the explanation, the mv and the live performances just solidifies why I am so in awe of these young men. Their dedication, drive and hard work,what they give us of themselves, their words, their thoughts, their feelings. They are just amazing.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

^^ I completely agree with this Debbie! And thank you so much for.l saying so I love doing these “full experience” reactions

Now another complete recipe 😎 😍❤️lets go! 🔥 Thank you

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

💜💜💜 lessss goooo!!

Black Swan was written by RM( one of the very rare instances where Suga n J-Hope haven't written their lines). Considering the fact that in the Festa dinner RM was the one who looked the most musically exhausted/spent/ in need for rejuvenation, it makes a lot of sense that he was the one to write this gem. The fact that MOTS:7(2020) was supposed to be their last album before their grand world tour n subsequent break , it really shows they have been pushing themselves in these last 2 yrs without the inner motivation, just for ARMY. While I will forever be grateful that they did so n blessed us with more music during these trying times, but my heart breaks to think that they have been sacrificing their mental health, suppressing their artistic struggles for such a long time. I really hope they do whatever makes them heal and make great music exploring n expressing themselves individually and eventually when they deem fit, comeback together to bless us with more breathtaking BTS music. Also, i am so glad to hear that BTS music has in some ways helped you to be inspired again musically. All the best to you personally as well💜

@jaycee2888

2 жыл бұрын

@Shazzy, i feel like crying after reading your comment. i would have never been able to say (write) what i want to say. but i love that you said they explore and express themselves individually and come back together when they feel it's time. after jhope's "More", i feel sad that i read a lot saying finally jhope is showing his true self.. like are we questioning him of how true he is these past years? haven't we heard and understood "Idol"?

@ProProcrastinator108

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycee2888 Thanks for your kind words of appreciation. Yes, i have read many many comments like that. But those people fail to realise that BTS have never been insincere about their music. They always express what they are or have been through. Their sincerity is one huge factor that sets them apart imo. The moment they realised they would have to compromise with their Art, they decided to take appropriate measures. This stepping away as a group for the time being is much required, from a practical pov. However close you are ( even in family or say with your life partner etc) one needs to have personal growth as well. These seven men are wildly different from eachother in every aspect imaginable. The fact that they operate so smoothly is no less than a miracle n a testament to how much they have kept their individuality aside for the group. Now if they want to spread their wings individually it's only human. And we shall cheer them on, after everything they have done for us. So, i am glad they have enough self awareness n maturity to take these steps towards a better future, as individuals n as BTS too. 💜

@jaycee2888

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProProcrastinator108 omg! i love you and love what you said! bawling right now! 😭 i feel better though, thank you so much!

@h.vgavriel5838

Жыл бұрын

Same feelings, you express it so well. Gratitude and culpabilty, that was my feelings during the Festa dinner. And admiration, always, for their sincerity, workethic and vulnerabilty. I'm glad they take the time to explore and express themselves individually and not as a piece of the group, and hope it wil gave them strenght and new inspiration for comeback as a group.

Not sure anyone mentioned this already but with that cramped stage, Tae actually kicked Hobi in the head (at about 33:53)🫣..of course Hobi shook it off like a pro!💜

@TheKayjay15

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually Suga kicking Hobi. And yes Hobi was such a pro.

@BlackSwan.1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKayjay15 it was Tae, he already said it, and in the video is pretty obvious that it was Tae.

@TheKayjay15

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackSwan.1984 I admit I was wrong, having now gone back and watched the original video at a much slower speed a number of times. But to say it's obvious to the casual viewer, I'm not so sure. The camera angle makes it look like Suga is much closer than Tae, so at regular speed it was easy to assume it was Suga.

@BlackSwan.1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKayjay15 sorry if it sounded rude, english isn't my first language and sometimes is hard to express... As a dancer I assumed it was pretty clear that it was Tae and not Yoongi from the angle.

@mandeefarley1399

Жыл бұрын

I’ve watched this I don’t know how many times and I never noticed that!! Hobi man…such a pro.

Black swan is just a beautiful masterpiece! The depth behind it just blows my mind every time. And you were spot on about the quote. Not a lot of people get that so props to you! For them to just drop the gorgeous mv randomly without any warning left army in a panic. Everyone was freaking out when it came out and understandably so. Side note: in the music video, the scene right before the second chorus with Jin, he’s in a room with many mirrors. When he turns to look at the camera, did you notice how his reflections didn’t turn to follow his movement? Not a lot of people saw that at first but I thought it was really cool! Also Jimin’s dancing is just *chef’s kiss* Edit: black swan is not in the BU just to let you know so don’t let that whole storyline bother you when it comes to this song

I love that they are dance barefoot, If you want to see them on James Cordon show, they do a carpool karaoke

I definitely recommend to watch Black Swan's intro from the PTD live concerts. The dancers with the feathers are SO PRETTY! The "whoosh" sound from the feathers is another level

The death of creativity is the worst death, regardless of the nature of that creativity.

I love watching them reacting to the music video. They didn’t know Jimin would get wings in post and they are so surprised. Jimin was super tickled about it.

It is a bit connected to the BU but bear in mind the BU is a fictional storyline and not so relevant here. Here the reason why she connected it to other songs from the same era/ series of the albums 'Map of the Soul' is because the albums from this era are based on the concepts developed by the psychiatrist Carl Jung. They used this framework to depict their true feelings and what they were really going through (Concept of the ego, the persona, the shadow etc...). So even outside of the BU, their songs are also connected as they serve a general narrative about their lives and thoughts, which are developed in each album within an era especially for 3 of them: * the most beautiful moment in life/ Youth series of 3 albums : pt. 1, pt.2, Young Forever *the Love Yourself series: Her, Tear, Answer (+Face Yourself) *Map of the Soul: Persona, 7 So point is if you go into a song and know from which album it is from, it's already a huge clue and a key of understanding of their message and provides context... hope it's not too confusing and you get my point

*******This was shot in the lush LOS ANGELES THEATER. Built in Downtown LA iin 1931, it it a beautiful example of one of the last of the movie palaces.

Whoa, what a music video! I remember watching this movie and being so confused 🫤 I love how their video and the reaction explained the movie black swan better than the movie itself did! Great reaction too!

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol right? I’m an odd dude in that I love quotes! There’s a ton in that movie that stuck out to me and if I don’t understand something I tend to fixate on it until I do.

According to the press release for the song (95% sure that's where I saw it, but I could be wrong), that flat sound mix was done on purpose; as Bookish (and BTS) said, 7=1. The first few times I heard the song, it was hard to tell who was who most of the time - and that was after 5 years as ARMY! If you look at the cover for the single, there are seven 7s - in seven different fonts and several different colors - superimposed on top of each other. 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

That’s so wild to me that I was having a hard time finding one of them that Stood out more than the others and there was a reason for it! I love that!! Glad to know it wasn’t just me 😂

@vartite

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive 😊 BTW, your Martha Graham quote was spot on - if you watch the other Black Swan MV featuring the MN Dance Company (and a beautiful orchestral arrangement of the song), that quote opens the video, which was released a few weeks before the "emo trap" version.

That Black Swan performance on James Corden was the last performance BTS had in front of a live audience before the pandemic happened. Did you notice V kicked J-Hope in the head during the performance?

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Whaaaa?!?!? Rewatching this now!! How did I miss that 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🫣🫣🫣

@hobiscrap1947

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive don't worry a lot of personne miss that even V. If Jhope didn't tell him after he was so focus on his performance that he don't realise that he kicked Hobi.

One of my favorite songs! 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing!

If you like James Corden you should definitely watch them in Carpool Karaoke: Jin was hilarious, Corden earned his fandom nickname and Jungkook nailed the high notes in ON while sitting squashed in a backseat! They've also done Crosswalk Concert and played Flinch with him and they played Hide-and-seek with Corden and Ashton Kutcher. 😂👍 (Careful of copyright though)

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I must see this!! What is CrossWalk Concert??

@imajinallthepurple

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive They rush out with props and all and do a show when the light turns red and rush back when it turns green. It's pure chaos. 😄

@karnisz7292

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2x_s8qwncfAedo.html here you have a link to crosswalk kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmismdV9ldm8hLw.html And here to carpool caraoke.

@mandeefarley1399

Жыл бұрын

I came here to say this!!! Carpool Karaoke is a MUST SEE! Jimin earned his adorable Baby Mochi moniker as well! And Crosswalk Concerts will give you a good laugh lol. Just picture BTS running onto a crosswalk and performing a mini-concert until the light changes, and then grabbing props and running to the sidewalk. 😂 It’s pretty epic.

You're correct, this song about a dancer...Army takes care of those who honor the guys...💜💜💜

24:43 made me think of the countless times I've heard ARMYs say "I'm not really into [insert genre of music] but I really like the way BTS does it" .

Namjoon cried while writing this song😓

John in the very beginning you were accurate about the meaning of this song. How Beautiful and Sad this song is. Thank you for reacting to it! On my top 5 list of favorite Bts songs. You mentioned you never heard "Lights"...excellent song you need to give it a listen. Another favorite of mine is "Lie" solo of Jimins from their Wings Era. This is my favorite solo (#1). You have a Great Day! ✌💜

This was their very first performance of Black Swan & the MV was dropped as a surprise. There are more performances each unique. I believe it was the ON:E concert where it extended into a solo dance by Jimin -beautiful. And of course the breathtaking performances at PTD concerts. There is also a MV with a dance ensemble interpretation. Black Swan is such a stand out sing/performance & hits so much more knowing that these feelings & thoughts were true to them at that time.

You absolutely need to watch the art film because it’s done in the orchestral version and it’s absolutely beautiful. The orchestral version is what they use for the MMAs.

I love the format you follow! 💜 Thank you really for giving your time in breaking down the masterpieces they create. BTS music is layers upon layers of interwoven pieces of art, there's so much to pay attention to, tho it doesn't take away the fact that even the music alone is already a masterpiece by itself. I love how they mesh their personal stories in the conceptual art brilliantly (it actually make sense coz Namjoon, Yoongi, & Hobi's metaphor game is insane. Do you know that Yoongi also keeps a note full of his thoughts? My recent fave discovery is Yoongi's note from 2017 w/c he shared in fancafe that goes "a compass' needle always wavers before pointing in the right direction, life too is the same". The quote resurfaced in twitter coz he was holding a compass in Proof concept photo.). That's why knowing BTS as persons gives more depth to their music, like shedding layers of onion as you connect the events in their lives. We often say, we should separate the artist from the art (esp. when we know something bad abt the artist but we love what they create). But sometimes, it's actually really hard, because the art is the extension of the creator's self, their art contains their soul. I think the reason why many people love BTS discog aside from it being diverse & we could surely find a genre we are inclined to is because we can still find value in it even if it's not our thing, one big reason is meaningful LYRICS, the other is amazing PERFORMANCE. Before BTS, i don't really listen to rap, but look at me now going crazy w/ their cyphers, and now I'm open checking out rap artists. They opened my ears and my heart to a lot of things, making me see the goodness in other whole lot of things, not to mention how a lot of their music & lyrics are so motivating, healing, and transformative (if I speak more on this, this comment will not end).

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

I love this whole comment!! For real thank you for this! And I agree about them opening me up to other music stlyes

@aarceeandtannies2217

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive BTS magic does wonders to us. 😁

36:23 V actually kicked j-hope in the head in this performance. As you can see the stage was a bit too small so it was very pushed together. They talked about the accident in a vlive V had later that night and he said sorry (not his fault though) and Hobi said he almost passed out. You can see it at 33:52 V is in the back on the left side and Hobi in the middle at the left side. It's not something you notice if you don't look for it though, they really are good at continuing performances when accidents happen.

@jenwinsim

2 жыл бұрын

Hobi just kept going without a hitch too. Professional kings!

@anitralarae_mahjacat

Жыл бұрын

They re-create the moment when you have Tae & Hobi interact in BTS Island In The SEOM 🫣

I love Black Swan. It is just so elegant. Stunning. Perfect every time. 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Dolly!

Black Swan is a masterpiece: the music, the depth of the lyrics, interpretive dance, live performance and mv. How can one group contain so much talent? Thank you for your appreciation of that and the depth of your reaction.💜

I haven’t watched the whole reaction yet, but I’m here to mention that before the official MV release, we got another video before it. It’s “BLACK SWAN Art Film” which was choreographed and performed by MN Dance Company. It also features the Martha Graham “a dancer dies twice…” quote at the beginning of the video.

The version at the concerts this last year was so beautiful! They outdid themselves. If you get a chance and someone can recommend the best version, check that out too!

Black swan makes so much better sense now that we know that this was the time where they needed a break. LIKE…?!

There actually is a part where one kicks another but you don’t notice because they’re professional. On stage they’ll be goofy, but televised performances like these? They’re perfectionists. Jimmy Fallon did a BTS week where they taped performances and they’re very good. Black Swan, Idol, Butter, etc. all in amazing locations like a shrine, a bridge, a rooftop of Seoul. They’re really worth the watch

I became ARMY bc of how important MOTS and specifically Black Swan resonated with me. it hits different

I remember hearing that “Black Swan,” was written with a darker meaning actually talking about a dancer who was afraid of his death. How he no longer felt the same passion from the music that they had once did. Also Taehyung said that the dance moves for this song were hard for him, because of his flat feet.

I think you are the first reactor I've heard who already knew the quote from Martha Graham! And I can tell you had already taken time to think about that concept of losing one's inspiration and what that means to performers and to yourself. Bookish Theories has great insight, which she balances with great humor. "After we see Hobi's shadow going back into the depths of himself, Jungkook AND HIS CORSET move on..." And she adds the visual of Kermit the Frog gesturing like a lovely assistant on a gameshow, lol! She's just brilliant. BTS songs and performances are made to be studied and understood and enjoyed on a deep level, so I love your "Full Experience" format! Well done!

Black Swan is one of my faves, I was go excited to see you react to this one! Also I don't think it's possible to watch a performance of this song and not fall in love with Jimin 😍. He has been my bias from day 1 and every time I see him do this I fall in love with him all over again. He is so beautiful and graceful he's ethereal.

Like you said this song becomes even more important - they had planned to go on tour in 2020 and afterwards wanted to go on a break. Then the pandemic happened and they just plodded on and Dynamite happened. The pandemic was both blessing and bane for them but I am glad they are taking the break now to get new experiences and can continue as a group later. I am glad that BTS inspires you, these guys inspire so many so it is only good and well that we grant them the same now. BS is not a part of the BU - however there are many videos that in retrospect have become a sub-BU a universe within the universe where the art merges with real life .. the Persona merging with the Shadow. We are on a heck of a journey and it started back in 2013. When Bang PD decided that these seven young men should write their own songs, show their own voices and thoughts, he helped create magic and a rawness and genuineness a lot of ppl consciously and unconsciously react to.

3rd comment😂 On J-Hope.. the rappers usually always rap their own lines but here I think RM wrote most of the song However! J-Hope released his 1st mixtape 'Hope World' back in 2018 in which he explores the concept of the Pandora Box, containing the 7 evils/7 deadly sins and how once unleashed the only thing remaining was Hope. So overall a very hopeful project but the final track of the mixtape 'Blue side' is a bit sadder and the artwork for it this track contains a 'Jack in the Box'... the name of his upcoming album and foreshadowing his new darker project. In the tracklist we saw one of the track is called Pandora Box and we saw in the MORE mv he's put everything in the box... so it was all mostly planned since at least 2018! He confirmed it on one of his recent live stream and said "I'm not called J-Hope for nothing"😂 He had a vision!!

You hit the nail on the head John! I've been waiting for this reaction since your first video I watched. This is THE song that made me Army 💜 It is so sad and breaks my heart but also so beautiful. This will forever be my favorite BTS song. Okay I stopped to come say all this right after your take on the lyric video so now I'm heading back to see you watch this epic performance which is an actual work of art. 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol thank you so much Rhonda! You are amazing and I can see why this song would get you army!

@rhondaulm180

2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to add you should really watch their Carpool Karaoke with James Corden too!

my favorite BTS song!!! thank you. i love your reaction format. Congratulations 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

💜💜 for real thank you!! I love doing these!

@dreamgloww6650

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive Tae accidentally kicked Hobie during this performance. 😥

Thank you 😊💜. Your interpretation is spot on. Apparently Namjoon wrote Black Swan after watching the movie (or so I've heard), and it reflects that very fear. And as you say, Yoongi and Namjoon pretty much spell it out right at the beginning.💜 It always surprises me, how people can watch the MV - with Captions on - and still not get it. I hate to admit it, but there are times I just want to hell at them "It's right there in black and white. They've literally spelled it out for you!" Some of the interpretations I've seen people come up with have left me wondering if we've been watching the same MV. It's a beautiful, painful song; given extra poignancy due to recent events💜💜 By the way, Black Swan is my favourite BTS song. The MV is gorgeous. And Jimin's dancing is breathtaking 💜💜💜 There are also two behind the scenes videos for this song, one solely concentrating on Jimin's dance solo.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I totally get that Leah ! And for sure I’ve been WAAAY wrong about my take on songs before 😂 I’ve just learned to go with my gut on what I feel the lyrics are trying to tell me but not be too attached to my idea on it that if I am incorrect I can’t just let it go 😂 I am a massive fan of lyrics and how they can mean so many different things! Song is an easy 10/10 🙌

@eveyy_xo

2 жыл бұрын

Omg the people I’ve seen not get is crazy , they’re like “first death,what does that mean???” And I’m like, seriously what were you reading before you saw that line?

@susantham7665

2 жыл бұрын

Also my favourite song 🎵 👍💜💜💜

@leahwarburton

2 жыл бұрын

@@eveyy_xo I know, right.💜

🔥this song is nothing but🔥

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Preach!!

I failed to mention that I am disappointed that there was no reference to Martha Graham's very famous quote by Bookish. However, parts of it are used in the very complex explanation. I guess her quote was too simple by itself. 🤷‍♀️

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol when I didn’t hear it in the explanation I was like… well… maybe I was wrong about that? Lol fulled expected to get corrected in the comments though

@pennybleta2300

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive She uses this explanation in the Art film video explanation that came first and directly references the quote. That is why you need to do both the art film and the explanation for it by Bookish Theories she says it in this video as well that the more detailed explanation is in the Art film one

You hit the nail on the head! Suga speaks of the first death early in this video. This is inspired by Martha Graham's famous quote as you say. Excellent job!

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Lol heck yes!! I don’t get it right often but when I do, that makes my day!! 💜

@alicesworld1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive I am so glad!

John, thank you. I am so impressed by your mature approach to BTS' work - you take them seriously and look deeply into their work. This song is both deep, and deeply sad, especially in the context of what we now know. It's also very rich not only in the symbology and lyrics but the use of guitar to mimic traditional Korean instrument the kayageum - I love this. I had to smile at your assessment of "normal" trap lyrics being superficial, because, as you may have now realised, EVERYTHING BTS do goes deep. I thoroughly doubt they are capable of trivial. There are some songs which I strongly disliked on first hearing (including exploring the translations), but when I looked into more authoritative translations I realised they actually meant something deeper and much more important - even perhaps controversial in Korea - they are Anpanman and Gogo - very light, very funny/funny, quite childlike on first sight - BUT! I love your appreciation of Bookish Theories - I love her explorations too! And her sense of humour.

Excited for your podcast John, you always have fun conversations

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Ah thank you so much man! It was a really fun one

the beat of the song sound like heartbeat withs also match very well with the lyric and overall feeling of the song they even say heartbeat in the lyric. the overall connection with every element of this songs is amazing to me

There are behind the scenes bangtan videos for the making of the mv and behind the scenes for jimin’s black swan dance too

The thing about the live version you watched - Tae accidentally kicked Hobi at the 33:54 mark. The stage was smaller than they were used to so they obviously had to squeeze in more than usual so a complete accident. You can see he put his hand to his face but being the professional he is kept on going like nothing. Black Swan is a beautiful song. Their performance of it at the concert is just breathtaking.

I really appreciate how you always dwell on the interpretations of their lyrics. Just shows how deep your thoughts are and how good of a lyricist you are. That's just so admirable and it's touching that you give them a chance, understanding what their hearts wanted to say. Thank you for this full experience John! 💜

I've never actually understand this deep qnd it hit different now that i understand the meaning behind black swan 😭

A concert. Watch a concert on black swan in your spare time !!!!! That will make you apreciate my Black Swans 100 times over. And remember, they sing live . Borahe 💜.

I feel as tho this song was so telling as to where they were at that time knowing what we know now. Chapter 2 of BTS is yet the best to come.

This James cordan show is my favourite BTS Black Swan Performance 💜 The setting is magical

Have you not reacted to BTS’s carpool karaoke yet? You have to blur it or write something across the screen or it will be blocked, but their carpool karaoke was so endearing that I think it won them some fans. They sing black swan, on, and mic drop too. They also did a crosswalk concert with James Cordon where they sing butter and permission to dance, but you should definitely do carpool karaoke first.

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh I have to see these!! Lol I love that guys show and the carpool karaoke is such a good way to hear their real voices! Or like whoever is on the shows voice

@brionyfakatou1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive yeah, Jungkook can hit the high notes of his solo in On even while sitting down and wearing a seatbelt. If that is not impressive then whoever is not being impressed must not know anything about singing.

You commented on V's flowing clothes in the dance practice. Taehyung suffers from cholinergic urticaria which means he gets itchy rashes from overheating. He prefers looser clothing and no shoes if not in a stage outfit. He also usually doesn't drink coffee or alcohol or eat spicy food because it can trigger his skin condition.

You have to watch Black Swan from PTD concert.... It's gonna blow your mind

To be the full experience of Black Swan you also needed to include the art film

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhh I’ll have to check this out!

@pennybleta2300

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnReavesLive Yes please do. It has a more classical version of the song and the explanation video for it by Bookish Theories explains more the lyrics in detail.

this song made a lot more sense after BTS party. The boys had planned to take a break from the group's activities after the mots7 tour, but with covid it didn't happen and then came dynamite, butter, album BE.. Black Swan talks about the loss of passion for music, something they are afraid of, at the party they made it very clear, that they need some time to put everything in place.

Actually in one of singularity performances V wore a black feather coat and the kmedia started calling him "the black swan" . In all this song performances he looked like a black swan tbh , but Jimin is our black swan this song was meant to show us his contemporary background

I love how you got the meaning, dead on, so quickly, John! 👏🏽 This is my absolute favorite BTS song! It captures how it feels to live without your passion. Finding my artistic self is the greatest gift I ever gave back to myself after decades of hiding it away. This song will always remind me that a life without passion is one I don't want to live. The live of this at the PTD concerts was truly magical. A memory I will cherish for the rest of my life.

In my opinion this is not just one of their best songs, but one of the best songs ever written!!!💜💜💜

Thank you for your in depth videos. I love your reactions because you give the full view of the mv and song. Please keep up the great work. 💜

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Heather! I for sure love doing these like this and will be doing them as long as I can :)

EEEEEEEEYYYYYY!!!! 🥰

@JohnReavesLive

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🙌🙌

I think this is my next favorite BTS song after Fake Love. And I live how they are somehow connected (especially when they performed it on the PTD on stage concerts). And to think that Namjoon wrote both of these songs is just insane.

Black Swan is, undoubtedly, an introspective and heartfelt masterpiece - both musically, and in their performance and mv (so, visually, I guess). We were all a little shook when we first heard it, and deeply moved - and I think now we have the final piece of the puzzle, after Festa 2022. They were sharing their deepest selves, their fear and heartbreak, and their growth and maturity. Thank you 🙏💜💜

what makes this song even sadder is the fact that they were supposed to take a break after the album Map of the Soul 7 (where the song is) and understanding the lyrics and learning about their feelings at that time made it more sad 💜 but they are in a better place now and I for one is happy that they ended their Chapter 1 with Yet to Come instead of Black Swan 💜💜💜 loooove ur reactions btw. keep doing them 💜 also, for a more accurate lyric translations plus cultural references u might have missed try DoolsetBangtan 💜💜💜💜

I took my time watching your reaction to Black Swan because you always have something insightful to say and I didn’t want to miss any of it. I read books in a specific genre which has conventions so I meet the authors and follow them on Facebook. Many of them are prolific writers but occasionally they hit a wall and their muse goes. It’s devastating for them. When you think that BTS has well over 300 songs in their repertoire most of which they’ve written it’s inevitable that they would hit a wall. When they nearly split in 2018 Outro:Tear was the song which described the turmoil they were going through. I wonder if Black Swan was such a song for this new phase they are entering. Had Covid not happened would they have started to branch out into solo careers sooner following the tour they were about to embark on? Little clues seem to have been there over the last year and a half. Son Sungdeuk said it is becoming increasingly difficult to choreograph their songs so that each member gets a chance to be in the fore because songs are expected to be shorter these days. RM Jin and V expressing the struggles they were having. They need something to kickstart their creative juices and bring them back to life and working solo some of the time is how they’re tackling it. Black Swan is so incredibly clever I can’t believe that it wasn’t nominated for a Grammy. Surely it would’ve won despite the so called language barrier? Yoongi had to let you down on this one and wear a Britney mic because of the beautiful hand movements he needed to do. Jimin’s wonderful dancing and the flicks the do at the end of this really make this for me.

Son fantásticos BTS!! Jimin un artista completo y sensacional.

This was one of first introductions to a BTS video and Jimin's dancing. It stole my soul.

What you said after the liric video.. That exactly right. I've seen quite a few reactors listening to this song Black Swan, saying that the read the lirics, the captions, and not getting what it is about 🤔

This song hits so much harder now. This has always been one of my favorite songs, now it’s hard to hear knowing what they were going through when they wrote that song 💜

The dance rehearsal hall is at Herb Apert School of Music a UCLA at CAL Arts. Inside the two-story HYBE gallery that will flaunt the K-pop band's record-breaking accolades BTS' new home HYBE will feature two designated floors as BTS Museum (BTS Twitter/ Big Hit Labels KZread) BTS ARMY has one more reason to celebrate!

I love them all bit have always thought Suga and Jin are unspoken heros in BTS. Yes thier sync. In dance is perfect. Hours of practice to thier craft is what separates BTS from so many

The live version from the PTD shows is amazing too with the backup dancers in the beginning if you get a chance to watch it

This song hits different now after the Festa dinner 🥺 I almost cant listen to it cause Ill cry and I feel so bad for them. I just want them to be happy 🥺

The backstory to V's oversized clothes is cause he has a skin condition that worsens when he gets overheated in the end makes him break out in inflamed itchy rashes over his body. It's the same medical condition I have as well. When I'm sleeping I will unconsciously begin to scratch so much I wake up bleeding. That's why I sleep with the AC running all year round cuz I like the to sleep with blankets on. I sometimes have to sleep with ice packs or cold patches in the summer time too. So I feel for him when the stylist makes him wear skin tight clothes, or really heavy jackets and sweaters etc on stage or outside performing. I remember for his solo stage he had worn a beaded jacket. He said it was so heavy and hot it made it hard to perform in it. He asked them to remove sum of the beading but they refuse as it would make the jacket look different. He must get so uncomfortable. If u look closely u can see him itching on stage sometimes. It's like when a member of NUÉST who is allergic to salt and was forced to dance and sing covered in the stuff it's so dangerous tho.

I recommend you see Black Swan in concert, the last 8 they gave, in LA or Las Vegas

Thank you so much. I was waiting for this one. It is my favourite BTS song!

the live you should see of one of those big performance they have before the song actually starts. its absolutely crazy. the one of ptd on stage in la concert movie

I love how you rave about their precision, and that you were watching for a mistake and there just weren't any. And then you specifically point out the spinning thing they do near the end, and say that you'd head but one of the other guys... Well... V kicked JHope in the head on that move. You can just see it at 33:53. JHope's hair flies out, and he touches the side of his face and just keeps dancing. Blink and you'll miss it. There's a behind the scenes where they talk about it, and Hobi said he nearly passed out from it. They make mistakes, but their level of talent and professionalism is such that those mistakes are rarely seen, and I admire them so much for it.

Jk and yoongis first part is very awsome jungkooks body role❤❤❤❤❤

Another great reaction!! I really like how you are diving into the songs and the explanation videos are very well done. This is such an amazing concept and song and it really does resonate with the break they are taking now. The way Jimin shines in Black Swan is so beautiful! He's such an amazing performer and brilliant dancer. The theatre they filmed it in seems to reflect the song - are they celebrating past glories, do they have anything to look forward to, is all their talent in the past. Can't wait for you to see the MMA!

I don't know if anyone has addressed it but...when James is doin the intro, the really tall guy on the left is BrisXLife, aka Terry, one of the biggest kpop reactors and massive Army. He's got a video about the whole experience of being there, and JK recognizing him.

Jungkook and his corset lols. Bookish Theories and Doolset are the top when it comes to the interpretation of BTS's songs, lyrics and the whole connection to the BU plus the literary, philosophical, psychological meanings of it all.

Tar has a skin condition called Cholinergic Urticaria that causes him to break out in itchy rashes when he gets overheated. That's why he wears oversized clothes so often, to allow air flow to help keep him cooler than tighter clothes would. Plus, I think he just likes baggier clothes.

You got the meaning right at the start. Great! This was my intro to BTS and I've been hooked ever since. The MMA performance is different but beautiful. I think you should also check out a Live from their Permission to Dance concerts (which would be a fancam). The costumes and group choreo is Soooo good! Love how you do lyrics, then MV, then dance practice, then Live. Oh, and in the James Corden live, I heard (but didn't see) that V actually accidentally kicked J-Hope in the face, but they are so professional they kept going like nothing happened.

Black Swan is art. It may be one of the greatest songs I ever heard. It's just so deep and beautiful and painful. 💜