Don’t ask a plumber! They still haven’t figured out how to cover cracks

@yess.....

3 ай бұрын

Ohhhhhh i get it!!😅 lmfao🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

@csguy3223

5 күн бұрын

Bro leave my father in-law alone!

@themonkeydrunken

5 күн бұрын

You cheeky bastard

I always thought mesh tape was for strength needed in repairs and paper was for smoothness for joining full sheets.

@cheshiremcat8629

3 ай бұрын

that is what the purpose is correct

@jasonf4736

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I was told mesh for repair, tape for new sheets 🤷‍♂️

@norzoloco1

Ай бұрын

This is correct. Mesh is stronger than paper. I've had to use the giant mesh roll on whole ceilings that were falling apart.

Mesh can only handle tension along its length or width (the direction of its grid). Paper can handle that as well as some shear, and so many cracks in new construction are the result of shear between two surfaces.

@Anthonycapone8146

3 ай бұрын

At least 20 years ago, I taped a crack in my mother's hallway. The plaster has come slightly loose, if you push on it gently it will move in and out, but the crack never reappeared. If I would have used mesh, you would absolutely see the crack at this point

@reneeschwenig7164

3 ай бұрын

Really? I find that Fibafuse is way better because I don't get bubbles which you can always see the tape if there is a bubble. Are u talking about joints? Because I don't remember my walls ever cracking.

@mjonesftwtx

Ай бұрын

@@reneeschwenig7164your tape is bubbling because there’s not enough mud underneath in that area. Scrape texture around patch smooth as you can so when you apply your tape your knife will lay flat on the paper, easing the mud out more efficiently. If you’re patching smooth walls it’s so much easier than roughly textured surfaces.

I like fiber fuse

@THYOWNCHANNELBEMINE

3 ай бұрын

I saw one video where Vancouver Carpenter mentioned fibafuse is good to use in the same statement as recommending paper tape. I used fibafuse on my butt joints and paper on flat and corners.

Welp. Learned something new. So much for that mesh tape I bought. I feel like I should've figured that out. Thanks for the simple explanation man, love your channel.

@MyDixieNormis

3 ай бұрын

Nah man, mesh tape is the way to go. It’s faster and easier and paper tape is more likely to bubble and blister

Only recently, I'll use mesh for a patch, repairs, but I set it with durabond and then use 45 min. Otherwise I only use paper.

@Benjamin-zp5ds

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Always use mesh if i have to cut it open, but if im putting new drywall up then i use paper.

I'm a mob tape guy myself, it hides all the preassure cracks.

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

😂

fibre tape for my money.

Here's me DIY-ing for 20 years without using any tape and no issues lol

Fiba fuse

Thank you I'm new to this stuff I've been using mesh every time, I really appreciate your videos on this stuff. I recently started skateboarding again which is how I found you, so you've really been all around helpful to me lately and I am subscribed

I used mesh when dry walling my garage and now I have cracks down the center of each joint. I wish I would have used paper or Fibafuse tape(?)

Here in south Texas where homes are built on clay soil ...we have alot of cracks in drywall but paper tape is the best choice...fiberglass..hot mud...for patches

I thought you said you liked Fibafuse. I was about to use that to do a room or do you think old-fashioned paper is still the way to go? I already did one seam today with Fibafuse and was pleased with the results but how will it stand up against potential cracking? 🤔

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

People have been using it for a long time now. I’m sure it will be fine. Go for it.

How does Fiba fuse stack up in this comparison? I absolutely love the stuff.

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

I personally don’t think it’s as strong as paper but it’s much more forgiving on the install and easier to hide after.

@user-iq9uu9mh7k

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't. It's like mesh when it comes to hiding the crack that forms behind it as in it doesn't hide the crack.

I use the new improved mesh tape with diagonal fibres and durabond, reasoning is it’s lower, paper has to have mud under it and above it to hide seams…

I have more than 15 years of experience. The causes of cracks are shrinkage of the house or loose bolts in the drywall. and lately I have found that many sheets of drywall are simply dry after being exposed to water.

I love these videos.

mesh wit a durabond first coat hit it 20mins later and as long as theres 2screws holding that aint cracking... u be the judge

your the man! your knowledge has helped me so much ❤

I believe many cracks due to use of poor quality framing materials or framing techniques. Mesh best for minor remodeling IMO.

@MyDixieNormis

3 ай бұрын

Mesh best in general

@Benjamin-zp5ds

3 ай бұрын

Mesh is always goated.

I just did a basement myself…first time drywalling, use taping mud for tape and nothing else, use paper tape and nothing else, stick to one type of mud for the process after taping….they sand off a different rates and is a pita lol. Never will I buy the dustless stuff again. Prefilling with the quickset mud was a lifesaver as well. Oh and if you have never done a big drywall job before….hire a pro or you will wish you did after 😅

I have ditched both, I use Fibafuse in all my flat joints , Strait Flex Composite Flexible Drywall Corner Bead on inside corners and Big stick Composite Drywall Corner Bead on outside corners.

I use mesh everyday i used to use paper and it wasn't so good for me then i switched the mesh and it changed everything, i think in tge end of the day is dependent on the installer i like mesh much better

saw u skate first now ur back with some more great tips 💯

I feel like mash is a lot simpler for beginners

Randomly stumbled upon this video like dang this guy looks and sounds a lot like Ben Degros… only to realize it was you all along haha! Love the work man

Wouldn’t the drywall mix actually cover the crack?

Very helpful

Paper for corner fibafuse for everything else is the only answer

now you've lost it. following that logic you would never use mesh tape for new drywall because every piece butted up to another piece is considered a crack. Mesh allows for more mud to hold the tape whereas paper tape can get bubbles underneath and create problems. Doesn't matter which tape you use it's how you mud it that matters.

I just use both. I put down some mesh and then I put paper over it just in case

@HansyPants184

3 ай бұрын

But... Why?

@joephillips6634

3 ай бұрын

@@HansyPants184 Just a joke my dude

@HansyPants184

3 ай бұрын

@@joephillips6634 haha ya got me.

I saw your vid about hot mud and paper tape. You nailed the secret, don't pull the tape so tight that you squeeze out all the mud. You also spoke of using glue in your mix. Made me wonder, have you ever tried cement mortar "link"? I put it in mortar mix when I point up chimneys it works great. Wonder if it would work with hot mud?

Mesh only!!

What I use is fibatape ultra thin mesh topped with Fibafuse, best of both worlds seems to work.

MESH!

Wich is better? Independent trucks or thunder? Ooops... wrong channel 😂😂 😉 ❤

I've been using the Fiber tape for a bit now. How does that hold up over time? Haven't had many issues aside from sanding fiberglass tape....

I have 3 types of tape in my work truck. Paper, mesh and fiber. The fiber one looks like, a thinner version of house wrap. I don't know their specific applications because, I leave it to the drywaller.

Paper tape is the best application if it's done right, mesh tape it's just for a quick patch with quick set or can be used to tape corners bead, paper tape with quick set does not work well the tape suels when wet, when drys leave tape mark.

What are your thoughts on Fibafuse?

Prefill with durabond 90 and doesn’t matter what tape you use.

The fiberglass tape is mainly used for hot mud because The paper tape doesn't work as well with it

If I'm fixing a crack in old plaster, is paper still better? Everything I've seen has said mesh, but this makes more sense.

Mesh all the way but you have to use the right kind of mesh

Well all I'll say is everywhere I've had a crack I've applied mesh tape and the crack didn't come back. The mesh acts like rebar in concrete. Proper application technique matters but my own personal results speak for themselves

@Anthonycapone8146

3 ай бұрын

Well rbar doesn't prevent concrete from cracking either. It' still cracks, but stays together because of the rebar. Just like mesh tape, it'll crack but stay together because of the mesh tape.

@Benjamin-zp5ds

3 ай бұрын

Mesh tape is goated

What a fail logic to follow... Mesh is stronger, paper is prettier.

Good one

I think that's a bad argument. Rip paper tape with your hands. Rip mesh tape with your hands. How about concrete? Crossed rebar or some paper like bond?

I would argue that "showing" is no the same as "stopping" so you didn't really answer the question. My guess is that the mesh is always superior for stopping cracks and paper for cosmetic.

The only time I use mesh is with hot mud otherwise it always fails. But maybe I'm doing it wrong. I prefer paper on everything

Fibafuse for the win

I had a pro finisher tell me years ago that they tried the mesh when it first came out and had to go back and retape everything… mesh is good for repairs he said

Hey man we have a drywall company in the Vancouver area. How big of jobs do you do? Do you have a crew? Love your work would love to get you on a job sometime? Let me know.

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

Hi. Hit me up on my Instagram @vancouver_carpenter

Hahahahaha! Beauty Ben!

Mesh for quick job, tape for good job. I once bought a mesh not knowing it is worse, and now I rarely use it. I only use it for parches in the middle of a board, or when the board is screwed on a flat surface and not on studs. I will never buy again once I run out of it. Mesh is equal to tape in some cases, and worse in other cases. But it is never better.

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

I use it all the time for patches. It’s good for what it’s good for.

@juzoli

3 ай бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenterYou do a lot more patches than me:) Also you are doing it professionally for money, where time is much more important. As a DIY-er, I don't care if it takes a few minutes more. And I prefer perfecting one method which works in all cases. The end result is more important for me than quick application, and I just don't see any scenario where mesh would be stronger.

Pretty cool

I think more screws will stop cracks. You're just covering up cracks any other way

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

Covering up cracks is literally the job description 😂

Can you show me how to kick flip that paper?

I do see 👀 a crack in the drywall!

Dang. Mesh is so much easier to use.

Paper 👍

You are so smart

Bro Ben! What’s up lmao

paper vs fiberfuse?

Fact mesh tape will hump and crack on that repair.Use use mesh on plaster repairs.Now 30 years paper and back coat is the best.On all repairs.U prefilled the crack mmm just paper tape and and back coat

Looks like more and more of the drywall compound powder is getting stuck in his hair over time

just use fibatape instead. Just not for the corners. Better tape.

@TheSnuggler49

3 ай бұрын

No

i was told mesh is good for hotmuc, otherwise paper

when applied properly. Use the product that shows your skill, not the one that hides your fuck up longer.

How about.... meow?

It seems that neither prevents cracks better than the other. But one HIDES cracks better.

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

Yup.

Fibafuse beats both

Take this to the streets of the homeless. And STOP THE CRACK!! :)

Paper is to unpredictable. Mesh is the best

Fibafuse is better than both

Say ‘cracks’ again! 🤭

Just say no to crack

But isnt that paper where is the crack.is now?

@wanderinguser7665

8 күн бұрын

💯

I wish I could stop crack...jk jk great video!!

Both

After reading all comments & opinions, I'm now more confused and less knowledgeable than before i watched this video. Is mesh stronger than paper? What about bubbling or blistering? What about shearing? Why do you even need either (yes, i know ... just playing Devil's Advocate for a novice DIYer which I once was).

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

I would not rely on this comments section. It seems to be full of people that don’t really know why paper is better and are just passing through to hurl comments.

Stop cracks or cover em

I have seen paper tear, never mesh.

Mesh tape sucks, once you sand too far the little fibers are hard to cover back up, ok buried in tapered joints I guess.

FIBAFUSE!!

Good, now go wash your hands, because that mesh tape is going to make you Itch like a mofo!

💯👏👏👏👏👏

Don't do CRACK 😅😂

Too hard; how to back 3 next?

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

😂 can’t back 3 :(

Paper tape goes into corners, fiber doesn't. Fiber tape is better for shallower repair,Paper needs more mud than fiber. Some fiber tape is better than others,according to gauge.😊

@John-ol4eo

3 ай бұрын

In Europe we don't use tape period. Says alot about tape no?

@petekobraoutdoors7324

3 ай бұрын

@@John-ol4eo absolutely 💯, how's it going Europe? My parents came to Canada in 56,so I've lost touch, lol

@wanderinguser7665

8 күн бұрын

Fiber will absolutely go into a corner, it's easily flexible & thanks to the adhesive it's pretty easy to work with.

@petekobraoutdoors7324

8 күн бұрын

@wanderinguser7665 ya, right! 😆

@wanderinguser7665

8 күн бұрын

@@petekobraoutdoors7324 Indeed.

I've made this mistake 😅

I always say, mesh tape is 90% air

@vancouvercarpenter

3 ай бұрын

😂 I love it

@wanderinguser7665

8 күн бұрын

Less material, greater strength. I don't see the problem here.

Paper

Crack kills

I hate Canada btw. My ex is from the Greater Toronto Area

Paper is more likely to bubble or blister though, mesh tape is the way to go most of the time and it’s faster and easier

Bullshit

Mesh sucks don’t even bother

If your drywall has cracks, fix the substrate. Paper is paper. No strength. Mesh is not drywall tape, its fibre reinforcement to place inside plaster not filler... Pls learn before u teach.