Mercedes G-Wagen G350d vs Twisted T40 Land Rover Defender 110 off-road | PH Battle | PistonHeads
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Taking a Mercedes G350d and a Twisted T40 Land Rover Defender 110 to the Yorkshire Dales is always going to be an interesting comparison. After beating Dan at off-roading in matching Gs, it was his turn to show Nik what Yorkshire had to offer.
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MY LORD....someone wake me up when stuff starts to happen
@mattadrev471
6 жыл бұрын
want to see them REALLY head to head? kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3ub27modZOsgpc.html
That was an utter letdown. 2 chatty girls driving on a dirt road.
@202One
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂🙄😂😂
@jennyngantung2657
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah,true..
@emikaolatunje6572
2 жыл бұрын
@ TheMedraut 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So when are you actually taking them off road?
@nathaneastham4451
6 жыл бұрын
haha good one
@nguont
6 жыл бұрын
A corrola could do those tracks
@gnawershreth
6 жыл бұрын
Only in the US does off-roading refer to anything but driving off the road. The US always seems to take terms and just change their definitions completely. Look at the term "Off-road", and tell me what you think it originates from? Could it be "Driving off the road" possibly? The same has been done to "overlanding". Everywhere but the US it seems to be about traveling *over land* for longer periods of time, and not driving around on a pre-made track and/or driving out to the nearby lake a camping there for the night. A European overlander may go from Germany to China or South Africa or something while living out of the car. That's also why you don't see ridiculous lifts and massive tires on overland vehicles outside of the US. It would only make them worse at what they've been made for, which is travel. Backpacking as well, everywhere but the US it's a way of traveling. "I went backpacking around SE Asia for 18 months." etc. In the US, it's putting on a backpack and going camping. It's no wonder there's always confusion when it comes to those sorts of topics.
@nguont
6 жыл бұрын
Gnawer Shreth You taking it too technical, you are correct about it being “off-road “ however there are levels to it also . And this type of “off-roading” where a basic Camry can easily do is pretty soft. Not really showing the vehicle of its real potential.
@nguont
6 жыл бұрын
Gnawer Shreth also what u talked about just doesn’t apply to USA though, it’s pretty much applies to everywhere.
That was not a real test of these vehicles.
The rattles in the Defender is hilarious....
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
shut up
@AW4WAL
7 жыл бұрын
Will that make the rattles in the Defender vanish?
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
u would be suprised
@AW4WAL
7 жыл бұрын
I don't like surprises, so I'm gonna keep on laughing at the junk that is the Defender...an added bonus is watching as you get more triggered.
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
there are no rattles
My Toyota Yaris could of made that hill. What a boring test of two capable vehicles.
Great video!
Wake me when they do something.
think i went down that road in my saab last week🤣
@Revvenge7
4 жыл бұрын
lol
Is it possible to put an LS3 GM motor in that Landrover, recalibrate the suspension, put a lot of sound deadening materials in the car? That would be my choice.
@colinbalme3064
7 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang Ezeh twisted does that
Awesome beautiful made with all that incredible landscape
Everybody is talking about the rattle of the landy compared to the quietness of the G wagon like it's the most important part. Landies aren't luxury, they're utility so they're bound to have some noise :) It's what makes them what they are.
@mahir6239
Жыл бұрын
Land rover defender weren't ever changed much from 1943 Just the headlights moved from centre to sides due to regulations otherwise it's the same car
Last 5 seconds, right in the feels :(
And that you call it off road? Really? I've seen defender 110, 130 going up hills that were near vertical. A good prept defender has insane axle articulation.
that was really good :)
Id be totally happy with both!
I think a Discovery vs a G wagen(G class) would be a good test, and actually bring it off road.
Keep in mind, a 1993 defender 90 in good condition sells for 70,000$ in the United states
objectively the G-Wagon is better but id rather have the Defender.
I like both of them. The Defender is still a great machine even if now somewhat outclassed now by the G wagon!
Real nice.
The G is what it is.. it's a luxury 4x4, built to be exactly that. That's why it costs 100k.. The Defender is a utilitarian vehicle intended as a work horse (model in vid is actually known as a utility) that has been modified and priced by a third party at 90 grand.. There is zero common ground (as standard) other than the fact they have 4 wheel drive. This is coming from someone that would kill for a G wagon but (happily) owns a Defender.
@heiligerjesus1960
6 жыл бұрын
ash pearse what are you talking about? The g wagon was introduced as a work horse for the army. I have a 290GD and no defender can match it offriad
@Hurricane2k8
6 жыл бұрын
uuhhmm, just because recently Mercedes has focused almost exclusively on newly-rich russians and Beverly Hills moms with their AMG G-Wagons doesn't mean that it's not a real workhorse at heart. Look where the G comes from. It had been as utilitarian for about 20 years. The luxury bullshit came later.
@chawenhalo0089
5 жыл бұрын
@@heiligerjesus1960 Thats utter BS. If the Defender doesnt breakdown, its pretty much just as capable but with better clearance and articulation. On a long pure of road expedition I would rather have have the G Wag though for sure. Given a choice, neither are any good though, just too unreliable and not big enough. Land cruiser 70 series is probabaly the last capable touring vehicle still made, oh and that new Jimny of course!
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
@@chawenhalo0089 the Defender doesnt have locks and is way heavier. So the axle articulation and clearance isnt an argument at all. If youre talking about Reliability for overlanding I wouldnt say a defender or a g 463 are good choices. The land cruiser is superior than both in terms of that. But its different with a g461, its a bare boned off-roader with no electronics, just an indestructible diesel engine
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
@@chawenhalo0089 that Jimney really is an interesting little machine, yet id take an 410 samurai over it because it looks better and has less electronics that can break down
defender with ford fiesta air vents ?
The two coolest off-roaders ever made. Well, in normal 4x4 sizes anyway. Things like Unimog, MAN 8x8 etc. are obviously pretty cool as well. :P I wish it was possible to make the two vehicles mate and have a perfect baby honestly. The Defender looks amazing and and it's so great for bolting things onto, for customizing etc. and the size (well sizes, there's 3 of them after all) makes it perfect for different kinds of purposes. The G-Class is just in a different league when it comes to build quality and reliability though, so their car-baby would most likely be the perfect off-roader. Like, imagine a fucking Mercedes Defender G110 for example. Great size, great reliability, great off-road, great build quality. It'd be amazing. My only real issues with G-Class is the price and its size. It's still a big fucking brick to drive around like a Defender is, but it doesn't have the internal size advantage of being such a big brick. The Defender does. (Assuming you don't pick the 90). You can sleep in the back of a 110, you can make it a semi-camper if you want.. G-Class, not so much.. Unless you're really fucking short. I just have a problem understanding why they've kept it that short when it's still a big fucking, thirsty beast anyway, may as well get some more room and flexibility on the inside then so there's at least a bigger upside to having such a big brick of a vehicle.
@mahir6239
Жыл бұрын
They have mated and that give us the range rover
Lol, good vid!
Haha thats what I was thinking at the end. Can’t wait for the new Defender I’m imagining a Large Suzuki Jimny.
My 2014 Santa Fe could've done that track. But G Wagon all the way. Will be my future car to keep.
Where was the off road challenge? You both drove down a half decent track. In the Australian outback, that would almost pass for a road.
All of the G-wagons were tested on the Schöckl mountain and the terrain on this video is just a warm up on Schöckl mountain.
Gutted about the Landrover losing it here as i would still have the wagon landrover any day over a G Wagon,even though it's been built to a user friendly offroader
how is this off road?
that "they don't making it anymore..." really hurts
Close a door on any G-Wagen and you'll hear a bank vault closing. It's 6000 lbs. of muscle. I have a 2003 and it's as tight as the day it came of the Austrian factory it's hand built at. Too had a close on a Defender and you might blow the glass out.
I drove down there in a ford escort.. and back up again..
True about the US market but its the Ruler of Dubai and the purchases in UAE and Middle East that were buying in large numbers
To call the G a city runabout with its chassis on frame and 3 stock diff locks, which the defend doesnt have(stock), isnt really doing its justice. There is no major technical difference between those two, the G has 3 diff locks which makes it more hardcore offroad than the Defender which has an open front diff as far as i know
@johnno4778
7 жыл бұрын
GT Haus it has traction control which is better then any diff lock
@gthausde
7 жыл бұрын
Rosyth Johnston well, traction control works with an open diff and brakes, it can never be as good as a mechanical lsd, u never have 4x4 traction, think about it
@BenzinioB
7 жыл бұрын
Rosyth Johnston Come on man what you say then is that ML is better then G and rivel of the Defender :) There is nothing better then proper mechanical diff-lock! Diff-lock offers constant traction for all wheel all the time. The traction control needs to sleep a wheel then apply brakes and cut power which is kind of passive system - it reacts after the appearance of less traction. There is a reason why most hardcore off-roaders install after market air-lockers :)
@nathaneastham4451
6 жыл бұрын
u forgot that you can buy a 2011 defender low mileage for 25k and the same G range would cost you 90K
@johnnywoodchip8227
6 жыл бұрын
The only reason the G wagon needed three diffs was because of the axle articulation. That's possibly one of the best parts of the defender
You could have done the same in a regular old Defender. Not a Twisted. And then the 90 grand pricetag for the G-Wagon seems a bit crazy. It is nice though.
And you aren't really offroading to be fair,it's just a well formed farm track. If you did go properly off road the mercedes would b constantly hung up on it's sills
funny how they say at the beginning that the G Class has been taken out of its comfort zone yet it has more off road features like 3 differentials compared to the 1 on the defender
@highdownmartin
4 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll find a defender has 3 diffs. Front axle rear axle and one int middle
How do they drive with that seat position... move the seat backwards abit man..
@harry-qy2fz
5 жыл бұрын
Especially the G wagon driver.. uggghh
That's not equal comparison I think. V6 Benz vs 4 cylinder Landy ??
That shouldn't be a comparison. The defender is the original and that old model still was the exact same car from 1943 just some minor exterior and interior changs for regulations That defender was the car that build many countries
That could have been filmed in a class room using a white board and archived the same satisfaction as watching that off road video 👎🏻
All you needed to show was 5 seconds of the rattles in the Defender, compared to background silence in the g-wagon. No contest.
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
ur so dumb the defender is so much better off road the g-wagon is just pointless
@Ryelasse
7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah we just saw that.. Don't be butthurt, the Geländewagen is simply one of the best, if not the best, offroaders ever made.
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
the land rover is 10 times better than the g-wagon the germans dont even make any good offroader apart from the mercedes 6x6 the g-wagon looks like an offroad car but its really not the land rover is much much better u clearly dont know what ur talking about
@Ryelasse
7 жыл бұрын
film cast No I am not German my delusional friend, I am Danish and if you want to explain my view with my nationality, I should like the Land Rover more, you know, since you helped save us from the Germans in WWII. I am just not a nationalistic bumlicker who can't accept the fact, that England doesn't make "the greatest offroader in the world"..
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
ur quite right
My 2014 Santa Fe CRDI could've done that track. Nonetheless, G Wagon all day for me. My one future car to keep.
land rover is better
Defender ist devinitiv der bessere wagen. Richtige männer stört es nicht wen der wagen im innenraum bischen läuter ist. Ist eben für echte männer
Land Rover offers way more for less than half the money......you can always add as many toys you want to it....all three are good off roaders no doubt.Iandrover is basic but it just does what it should....all that extra bling is not needed by an average British farmer.
@cyclemoto8744
5 жыл бұрын
Other than the defenders, the Land Rovers depreciation far exceeds any other reputable 4x4.
My 61 lwb series two on xpc basically road tyres wouldn’t have batted an eyelid at that amble across the moors. Ha
Not quite a test but it was enough to hear all those rattles and squeaks from the LR Defender... not cool at all.
I could go down that track in my fiesta
It is well known that the "G" is the best from (jeep, nissan, toyota, etc.) 4X4 since 1979 ... Ps. Then we got the WIHT portal axels and the 6X6 !!! BUT, the most beautiful is the DEFENDER. It always was, and it always will be
Why no shots of the Citroen 2 CV camera car? Come on, girls, you didn't even have dirty hands.
Absolutely about nothing :) this is no off road...Skoda Fabia can ride this track
Shouldn't the G Wagen be compared more to the discovery than defender
@Rick2010100
5 жыл бұрын
Not by offroad capabilities
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
Discovery? Compare that to the ML Class. A G is a proper offroader, thats what it was originally built for
@thorstentrapp274
4 жыл бұрын
Nigel Clatworthy, it depends on the terrain. It's better than the Defender off-road anyway...we all know that (it's that some struggle to admit), but chances are good it would beat the Discovery on tarmac as well :)
Defender all the way
Hmm, for the (over)priced Twisted Defender you could buy a top of the range Land Rover with Vogue trim. Why didn't you do the test with that one? The idea that you get value for money with the G Wagon is obscene. But nice film. I liked it.
@readie-33tommy64
6 жыл бұрын
That was pathetic, they just drove down hill on a firm bumpy road !!
Seriously a test off road? I could drive my LR4 down that road in access height mode on stock tires.
Not long ago, the British Army replaced the Defender with the G-class. So I knew how this test would pan out.
I have driven worse roads in my Opel Vectra
sooooo wheres the off roading?
If that's your definition of roading then both those vehicles are a waste of money. You could travel those roads in a raised AWD vehicle without much trouble for 1/3 of the cost. Not sure what this channel generally focuses on but based on this content I can only assume that it's focused on on road vehicles.
This, this isnt off road, or is it all the G wagon can take?
hahahahha that moment when he suddenly realized that G wagon is better :D
Im just in love with the g wagon. Next timr you on instagram make sure to check this hashtag #GTANK Yes thats my car.
Goodluck with the G, when ur sensor breaks, end of story. Defender is solid AF
12.45 “the Saha of Iran?
Hear that rattle in the Rover? Merc is completely silent.
You compare the G class to something much more capable than a range/land rover, the G should be compared to a Land Cruiser or a NIssan Patrol.
You guys call this off-road????
Defender with Corvette L3 engine 👍 These 2 are Sad off-roaders!! 😂🙄😂
The Mercedes Benz looks like the Land Rover defender
Urm, I thought you said off road in the title?, and there's me I was expecting knee high mud, chest height wading and rock climbing, did i miss all this while i dosed off waiting for it?, I must have, instead I got to watch 2 vehicles on a dry dirt track, totally disappointed.
Only Lada Niva 💪
The new defender will trash a G wagon and also that was just a dirty gravel track you went on why didn't you just go somewhere that was a challenge my series 2 would have done that in 5 seconds
@ILCapo-mo5jj
6 жыл бұрын
Eoin O'Shaughnessy is that so? Then do it again and again and you will find that my beloved Landrover is made by cretons. That's why I drive G-Wagens. I would buy a Landie in a heartbeat, if only they would prove reliable. I hate Landrover engineers from 1970 till today.
@atf343
6 жыл бұрын
J.A.C. Chefen perhaps this is why the defender production stopped? Any efforts to mod the defender to "modern norms" usually are so extensive and expensive that a top down redesign makes better sense imho, the past 2000s formula isn't cutting it anymore
@nathaneastham4451
6 жыл бұрын
even an S1
@njw1840
5 жыл бұрын
Eoin O'Shaughnessy please even on Mercedes worst day that Land Rover still is not messing with Mercedes-Benz especially not with three locking differentials and I happen to to on both
Neither are 'city' cars and thoese that buy them for use there are silly. 90k for either of them is silly silly money.
That's not off roading mate. That's what you do in a X5 or even X6. :))
Dafuq did I just watch? Testing them out offroad by driving down farm roads?
Meanwhile the Toyotas are crossing Africa and fighting wars in the desert.
SKEIDAA!!
The only rattle I wanna hear after spending 90k is if I paid it in coins.
Ami the only one who wants to see a Range Rover vouge put he g to shame
What a complete let down!
Mercedes 👍👍👍
Hipster 4x4 is the Defender, it looks capable but it's not so much. It's axles shafts are 5mm smaller diameter, Ring gears are broken often as well as diffs pins. It's ok just on roads like that, ruff but not really challenging. Oh and no lockers offroad is a joke
@johnnywoodchip8227
6 жыл бұрын
G55STEYR yeah but the only reason the g350 needs diffs is because it has no articulation. Defender's don't need extra diffs. They're beast without them
@G55STEYR
6 жыл бұрын
Brother... you have no idea!
Both are iconic cars, both were built for military purpose but the Defender is 30 years older and thats not the only reason why the G is the better car. It is like everything that comes from Germany much more reliable and that is what counts offroad.sorry...
@johnnywoodchip8227
6 жыл бұрын
Klaus Walter the Defender wasn't built for the army. Get you R facts straight. It was built for farm work.
No one in California Drives G350 Diesel. this is a proper SUV. All celebs buy the G63 AMG. that is a very different thing.
@wingnutofcoolness
7 жыл бұрын
kushil05 Especially when they have a v12 with over 600 horsepower. I don't see the need in this vehicle.
Defender anytime not a dumbfu_k luxurious suv doing offroad real men real car mate you don't complain when a rock hit your 4x4 axles or body infact if the g wagon hit its axles i think it would broke up pretty easily than the defender
Crout barsterds.
You used the wrong truck. The Range Rover is the right truck or at least a New Land Rover.
Defender
anti roll bar, wheel articulation bull shit ... there is no replacement for 3 diff locks when coming to gaining traction on a slippery surface. plus how much more effective articulation you get after banging your head on the defender. cars don't go out of production for no reason.
@noscopesallowed8128
7 жыл бұрын
None of those reasons you just stated where why the Defender went out of production lol
@sharoof
7 жыл бұрын
Sgt C4 FYI I never said the lack of anti roll bar or diff locks being the reason for LR Defender going out of production. I was generally referring to the video comparison and the fact that LR Defender is out of production.👍
getting stuck going down hill ???
G wagon any day .
@filmcast2492
7 жыл бұрын
ur so dumb
@homeguard8481
6 жыл бұрын
Sami Hadj How thick can you be!?
@johndurkan4998
6 жыл бұрын
G wagon is the true 4x4
@njw1840
5 жыл бұрын
film cast no he's not I am both and you're dumb because you don't know anything about these cars and you don't know the facts know the thoughts all the history of where they come from
@chawenhalo0089
5 жыл бұрын
@@johndurkan4998 Or rather was...
G wagon is best
The Mercede's driver is painful; he drives TOO near the steering wheel.
Lol! Off-road? These guys have no idea.
any one the wears a wrist watch as big as a phone should never review a 4x4
Sorry did he say 90 grand! And that steering wheel is like a bottle top.
A volvo 245 could probably make it on that ´´offroad`` road. Are you seriously calling something an off-road test when you are clearly driving on: you guessed it! A ROAD?!?!?!?! I agree that there are large boulders and pot-holes, but the English language sure is weird. Off-road seems to mean on-road...