Thanks for this beautiful video. ❤

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

You welcome!

Hi 👋 Thankyou for this Demo on the Fuel Cell Mercedes Bends 60'Bus .Having 4wheel drive setup is a good safety Feature in Snowy roads more controlled operating..The gate at the drivers area is a sad sign of our times 😢 keeping the Drivers safe from been assaulted Enjoyed the Video 📹 as always 👍

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Thanks for great feedback!

Nice video, nice bus. I actually like those 1.5 seats. I can sit there alone and I have a wide seat. I think I only had one person that wanted to sit beside me on one of those, and that was a drunk girl if my memory serves me right. I do agree that those are probably a waste of space. they should atleast be reserved for people with disabilities or something.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

They are, at least in Norway, dedicated to people with disabilities. But, regular people have no respect, so they are sitting there anyway. Newer buses in Norway are never ordered with these seats anymore.

I think there should be dual/hybrid (standard and camera) mirrors on buses so if you want to use one or the other, you can.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Double up. America does that.

Very interesting and informative. This idea shows promise but it too will have to prove itself to earn people’s confidence.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Glad to hear!

I’m just curious about how long it takes you to do such awesome editing.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Spending about 1 week for each video. We have more than 250 videos now... Hahahaha!

Nice review overall. At 9:25 you can clearly hear that also the ZF AVE 130 suffers badly from high pitch noise coming from the E-motors. So it is not only the Cetrax in the VDL Citea NG. Hopelfully they will find a insulation solution for that.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Noice is a big challenge in high speed.

10:15 Good thing this type of seats is optional, I never liked it either. As far as I know it's mainly a Germany thing to have more walking/standing space, or as some people say - for a parent and a small child.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Horrible seats :P hahahaha

Fuel cell propulsion is the future until ultra dense battery breakthrough.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Let's see how the future will look

Think there's the tech that needs to go somewhere in the box at the rear.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

This also they can remove it, or minimize it

hei du har rett, den boksen bak på den Mercedes Benz Citaro E må fjernes, flere seter og de forferdelige setene kan også endres til vanlige seter og nevnte speil, gjerne klassiske speil

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Mange gode innspill :)

I think this technology is more promising than electric vehicles

@tonygudath1510

Ай бұрын

This is an electric vehicle

@quill170

Ай бұрын

@@tonygudath1510 powered by hydrogen though

@tonygudath1510

Ай бұрын

@@quill170 still an electric vehicle

@leckqma

Ай бұрын

@@tonygudath1510 no, a hydrogen-electric hybrid bus

@tonygudath1510

Ай бұрын

@@leckqma still an electric vehicle…the only difference is where the energy comes from…both electric vehicles

Hydrogen is defenitely the future for the heavy trafic. Batteries are not smart in weight vice not loading vice. It has to be fuel Cells.

@CreRay

Ай бұрын

This bus is an electric bus plus a fuel cell. Batteries are the same! 395kWh installed capacity.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

The manufacturers are working full speed to find good solutions for the future :)

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Correct. This bus runs on batteries even when H2 goes empty

@CreRay

4 күн бұрын

@@bussmagasinet1 The batteries are not there as backup but to even out the load on the fuel cell. Fuel cells don't last long in transient operation which is why a big battery is essential in commercial vehicles.

4x6, not 4x4😊

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

So true! hahaha

Honestly I highly doubt the prospect for hydrogen vehicles, especially for buses. The mere economics of it are extremely bad. With an electric bus, you get little to no energy lost from the energy source to the wheels of the bus. It is extremely efficient. But with hydrogen vehicles you first need to use electrolysis to generate the hydrogen, then store it under extremely high pressure, and then pass it through a fuel cell, all of which causes energy losses. With a hydrogen vehicle, of the energy you put in, you usually only get 30% of that energy out of it. That means the fuel costs for hydrogen vehicles are at least 3 times higher than for a battery electric vehicle, and thats just not good. Especially not for public transit agencies, many of which are tight on money, that means it would cost again, at least 3 times as much to run a route with hydrogen buses as it would with battery ones. Plus higher maintenance costs due to the added complexities of the hydrogen tanks and the fuel cells themselves. No range benefits or fast refuelling can fix such poor operating economics. Not to mention the dedicated charging infrastructure which is also much more expensive than that for electric buses. Like Hydrogen buses might have had a shot at being viable if they were say 130% the price to operate of a battery bus, but not 300+%. And these inefficiencies come from the very factors of how hydrogen as a matter behaves and the generation of said fuels. I am extremely doubtful that technological advances or new vehicles could fix these problems, so I think its frankly the best to stick with purely electric buses for now and work on improving the batteries in them. Something which at least seems more viable.

@bussmagasinet1

5 күн бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts. Let's see what the future brings.