It's unbelievable that these guys got life while Casey Anthony is a free woman...

@VioletJoy

3 жыл бұрын

That's absolutely maddening. That goes to show all the different factors that go into a case- evidence, representation, jury, judge, etc.

@mrsmiggins9465

3 жыл бұрын

No justice for Kaylee thats for sure 😔

@annedolan3050

3 жыл бұрын

A true travesty.

@coronatyrus2391

3 жыл бұрын

Amata... The only thing that's unbelievable... Is the fact that they didn't get the gas-chambers!! It would've safe the taxpayers some money!!

@messywebdev

3 жыл бұрын

so sad :(

These boys have been treated like they're lesser humans their whole lives. Society told them it didn't care what they suffered as children. That's messed up.

I was a kid when this happened and my perspective of this case was extremely skewed to the negative against them. Why did people think it was okay to make fun of these two? Their childhoods were HORRIFIC.

@cynthiakluck-johnson5895

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad bc I misjudged these guys back in the day. Now that I am a mental health counselor and I see so much trauma, I'm so ashamed of myself for drinking the Kool aid

@annabell3385

11 ай бұрын

The case was presented as they killed their parents for the inheritance.

My filthy pedophile dad did this as well. Apart from the daily abuse and constant humiliation, they try to drown you under the pretense of teaching you how to swim. He took away my sandals and I was forced to walk on burning hot pavement which left me with scars on my feet. If I told you everything he did you would not believe me. I still have nightmares about him to this day and I'm in my 60's now.

@dmcgowan6350

7 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that happened to you ❤😢

@mufasasdaughter4831

7 ай бұрын

Day dreaming

@sunni1ib691

7 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry your father did this to you. I am so sorry that you didn’t have someone to take you out of the situation. Regardless of what happened, you sound like a fighter. I hope you have people supporting you and embracing you with love and peace.

I'm 56, and never considered myself a groupie until I started listening to these gentlemen.

@crowmedicine3890

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@pennysue8849

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂

@DawnNY

3 жыл бұрын

57 here and feel the same. "Absolutely" love them and the panelists. What a great group of people and it's all due to these Rock Stars! 🎙️🎧🎸🎵🎺🎼🎷

@ohdear2275

3 жыл бұрын

Me, too. And I'm 59. I'm a huge fan of these guys, and I really look forward to their videos.

@angier4560

3 жыл бұрын

💯 agreed!

Not only is this the most interesting subject matter ever, it's heartwarming to see four experts being so friendly, respectful and kind to each other without egos getting in the way. Thank you for being such great role models gentlemen.

@elizabethgracee

3 жыл бұрын

This 🙌🏼 they are so respectful. It’s like a fresh breath of air listening to them converse.

@bronfoth

3 жыл бұрын

And you can see over time that they are all learning from each other... It's really cool! 🙂 It must be exciting for them at their level in their field

@Leah_Olson

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for this one.

@waltontl

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. They are each comfortable and confident in their own knowledge and skills that they don't feel like they have to compete. They just get to the heart of the issue.

@nicky132

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, no mansplaining here 😀

I worked under Mendez for 1 year. In a meeting, he told us, we were family. I told myself, 1st were not family and secondly, if this is how you treat family, I’m out of here. I quit shortly after that meeting. About 6 months later, he was murdered by his sons. I had no idea how bad he was at home but he was an angry man with underlying issues.

@Leanah37

Ай бұрын

His colleagues despised him and said they were happy to hear he was killed. I mean that says a lot about the type of person he was smh

As a survivor myself of child abuse, torture by the very persons who were supposed to care for me (in my case a mentally ill adoptive mother), I can tell you that the rage and shame and fear are very intense for a little child. Many many children who are severely abused fantasize about killing their abusers. Most of us, I guess, just don’t have the nerve. Also yes you don’t show emotion. You learn that abusers get off on that; they love the screaming and crying and begging. So you learn to be stoic.

@rbrown6476

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you find peace - I’m sorry you had to endure that. Keep going and say kind things to yourself every single day. I’ve found that hugging myself deliberately as a soother, works well. It tells my body that it’s cared for as an adult even if it missed that part as a child. Bless you x

@LeNoir2411

2 жыл бұрын

agree.. when i was 12 ,i almost go through with it, i was holding a knife on her forehead while she was asleep ,the second time i was going to bash his head but I can't possibly be strong enough to actually kill them because i was obviously smaller than them ... That realization made me dropped the plan altogether.. i was also afraid that people might paint me as monster if my abusers die ,i mean i have no evidence so I'll be the evil one.. It's true i fantasize killing em almost everyday, even now in adulthood,i still wish i could harm them the same way they did me.. but some of em are already dead and the others have their own family, i couldn't bring myself to take that away .. it's so frustrating.. it's like the world moves on but you're still stuck in a loop..

@MissPresley69

2 жыл бұрын

So true. 😪🙏🤍

@quantumnature514

Жыл бұрын

Very, very true about the stoicism!

@kristinaanderson4160

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad my comment enabled some great conversation about it. To those who are younger than me (I will be 60 next year) please know that the road to recovery is long and painful but worth it. It is a lifelong journey. It is totally NORMAL to feel intense anger and confusion and probably around age 35+ is when you can even approach being ready to move past that phase. What really helps is stuff like yoga, movement, exercise, animals, finding the beauty in the world in tiny places. Build a safe place for yourself mentally.

The panel would like to see you do OJ Simpson...and if Mark says he’s never heard of the case, I want Scott, Greg and Chase to read his body language

@user-oj2sl9fo1j

3 жыл бұрын

hilarious!!!

@crowmedicine3890

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@ReSearcherSusie

3 жыл бұрын

You just won the Internet!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🥇🏆

@jackiekerr1561

3 жыл бұрын

Haha that's great..🤣🤣

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Mark would be excellent analyzing Johnnie razzle dazzle Cochran 🎬😁🧤

Every time My four white uncles post, I’m here for it!!

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@blessingsfromheaven8445

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 👍

@vbstarrv

3 жыл бұрын

😭🤣😂

@Ali-kb8gr

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😆

@leslieneufeld8410

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

Those boys absolutely should have not got life sentences .I know what it's like to have a father who was extremely abusive ,both emotionally and violently. And I tell you now .if I hadn't been so young and scared of him and a female ,I'm not sure what I would have been cable of because the one thing I do remember is wishing him dead every day from my earliest awareness of how much I hated him,that's what abuse can do over many years .

@yeahB

Жыл бұрын

yes, I also hated my stepfather so intense that he fell from the potty dead with his naked butt in the air at 54 years. Nobody grieved, not even his own young son. What had made my hate even more severe was that my mom told me nor to take myself so seriously. What she meant was that it didn't matter what he was doing to me because I was not important

@Joshualuv13

Жыл бұрын

I understand and I can tell you now ,that you mum obviously didn't know any better unfortunately and that you are and always where important and whatever happened was not your doing or fault.Treat the little child that u where once back then,we all the love and care ,that you always deserved ❤️

To me Chase’s comment that murder/killing may not be so deviant a thought/behavior based on the context of the family these boys lived in is a brilliant point (paraphrasing). This case devastates me. If these were girls telling the story, there would have been a very different outcome. I’m down the Menendez rabbit hole currently.

@whiteheart6827

Жыл бұрын

Yeah two of the lawyers and maybe the judge would of shoot their shot too. Your delusional. It is about the money.

@cat-mum-Jules

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I'm just beginning to go down the rabbit hole. Any suggestions of good videos?

@cat-mum-Jules

Жыл бұрын

@@whiteheart6827 I'm sorry I don't understand what you said.

@Mehki227

Жыл бұрын

​@@cat-mum-Jules Watch the Menudo + Menendez documentary

@nejlababali7901

Жыл бұрын

​@@whiteheart6827how are you so sure. Abuse of any kind especially SA is very traumatic, those boys were abused in a very traumatic way,this is my opinion.

I would not want to be on the receiving end of an interrogation by Greg. He's intimidating enough just sitting in silence ...

@WiteDahlia

3 жыл бұрын

I would mess with exactly none of these guys.

@suzintex2002

3 жыл бұрын

No but I would love to see anyone who ever crossed me get interrogated by him. He would make a great body guard. 😉

@jankasza5538

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone scared of Greg...😂

@kelseymariel2127

3 жыл бұрын

He’ll waterboard ya.

@MauiBodyworker

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed with all. I want him to negotiate my next car deal for me

I just love Marks personality .Positive and bit theatrical(probably spelled that wrong).He is so funny and charming at times !

@LúciaKitten

3 жыл бұрын

They all have their special, endearing quirks! I love how they interact with each other!

@sashasash9940

3 жыл бұрын

@@LúciaKitten I agree.Its a perfect "match".But Marks my fave i have to admit .

@maxryden1902

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I'll always remember his damsel in distress impression "help! Help!" 😂

@soulovelee_2433

3 жыл бұрын

He uses his own body language the most. He’s the opposite of Chase 😄

@LúciaKitten

3 жыл бұрын

@@sashasash9940 haha his accent doesn't "hurt" him one bit! 😉

It was the 90's and we never heard about sexual abuse in any trial. The media portrayed it as they were lying about the abuse to get out of jail . I watch this now and realize they were abused. It's so sad

@MademoiselleIcelfly

2 жыл бұрын

They still won’t discuss it. Why didn’t ME TOO include only women but not CHILDREN when pedophiles run Hollywood, the Catholic Church & goes all the way to the highest echelons of government & the Elite… All scams, all Bs. If we can’t protect our children then wtf are we good for?!

@lolliedotcom

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that being their defense when it happened.

@marshapilipow4671

Жыл бұрын

That's right different time area big difference thank God it's changing now. They should have just got 20 years and another court date .

Watch Menendez vs Menudo, its heartbreaking, this brothers need a new trail, they need to be freed

@MsTygame

Жыл бұрын

A trial. You hike on trail.

My condolences on the passing of your dog Scott.

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Rest in powerful peace Albert⚘

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

@artcreationsbydar

3 жыл бұрын

Losing a beloved pet is gut wrenching. I am so sorry for your loss.

@janicepierce1649

3 жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss, Scott. Prayers for your comfort and your family. Love your and your cohorts' fantastic program!!

@vbstarrv

3 жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss Scott, sending you and your family lots of warm prayers.

15 mins in and Scott has said something very profound (to me) about how children who are abused become incredible observers, this I know to be true as I am always observing other people and watching to see how “the land lies” before saying or doing anything.

@aoifeandginny5569

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's true, speaking personally, but after something happened to me, I was able to work out who was good or bad for my family and friends but never had the ability for myself unless it was really obvious. Nowadays if someone in my house is acting slightly different, like a pin dial different from normal I'm asking them what's up, which can get really annoying for them lol!

@fallyneprinciotta9058

3 жыл бұрын

I'm the same way. When I was younger and around others I would be very quiet watch everything and everyone before I interact. I never knew that was why. Amazing always learning something new.

@Smaugette

3 жыл бұрын

I just thought I was guarded and wanted to gain information about others before I share my own. Can't be trusting just any one!

@Acessoasis

3 жыл бұрын

This absolutely true. In my experience and the way I've explained it before is you're constantly on guard waiting for others to turn on you. You're super alert and begin to decode their behaviours and moods. Everything I'm learning from the guys are things I've picked up from being super observant. Just that now, I have proper terminology and definitions. Really a mind blowing realization as an adult!

@ouiouibien_1979

3 жыл бұрын

Same here..

They have finally been allowed to be in the same prison. They're not on the same unit but do get to see each other now.

@DMR1010

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn’t know that. Last I heard they’re were really involved in teaching inmates and adding value to other prisoners lives. Both married aren’t they? Sad, they will never see freedom

I only found this case a year or so ago and it was one of the hardest things I've ever watched and I watch/listen to this stuff all day long at work. These men should not be in prison.

@donniecook9757

Жыл бұрын

ok bottom line.. 1. it was planned. 2. Go into a rage and blow them to pieces, then go back and re-load. Then party away for months on end..

@clairesmith8120

Жыл бұрын

I haven't watched the whole story so I don't know what has happened.

@JacGBoots1

Жыл бұрын

In prison for sure, but Not forever ...

@annabelshepherd4692

Жыл бұрын

@@JacGBoots1 they got life without parole

@annabelshepherd4692

Жыл бұрын

@@JacGBoots1 oh I see what you mean. Yes agree

Your video’s are better than any TV show currently on the air.. 👍🏼

@DawnNY

3 жыл бұрын

⭐ ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ ⭐"ABSOLUTELY!" ⭐ ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

😃

@crescentmhaury

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and yes!!

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Or any other KZread body language analyzers.... I sampled a few and they have much to be desired.... i am spoiled by The Behavior Panel !!!! 🌟 🌟 🔎 🔬 🔍 🌟 🌟

@Itwasme5071

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Now you've got Body Language experts saying the brothers are being truthful about the abuse and people will still refuse to believe it lol.

@tengallonhat2741

3 жыл бұрын

It's not an excuse for cold-blooded, calculated m*u*r*d*e*r. They were young adults who could have ask a counselor for help, reported their parents to the authorities, or left home and started their new lives. They made this decision. They are psychos who should never be released from custody.

@mayakrause9384

3 жыл бұрын

@@tengallonhat2741 So by your logic someone who was brutally abused their entire life and felt they had no other choice but to kill the person who abused them means that person is a psycho? Like the panel mentioned in the video, abuse stunts a person immensely. Experts evaluated the Menendez brothers to be at a mental age of 8-10, and they didn't see the options that you've laid out as viable options because of that. Also I think one look at the crime scene will tell you this was not cold-blooded but in fact there was a high degree of emotion and overkill based on the randomness and number of shots.

@soberanobrasil9370

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayakrause9384 Even when you are 8 or 10 you know you can't kill people. It was not self defense. Were they afraid for their lives? They could leave their house. No away.

@YourEverydaySheep

3 жыл бұрын

@@tengallonhat2741It’s not an excuse but an explanation. I don’t think life without parole is appropriate for two people who were terrorised their entire life and finally snapped. Abuse from such a young age changes the way your brain develops. They clearly made decisions that weren’t rational and saw no other way out. Also I don’t think they’re “psychos”. All of the experts who evaluated them said they didn’t have enough of the traits to be diagnosed with anti social personality disorder. One of these people was Park Dietz who evaluated people like Jeffery Dahmer.

@tengallonhat2741

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayakrause9384 "...and felt they had no other choice but to kill the person who abused them." ----- These were intelligent, adult young men and this heinous, cold-blooded act was un-necessary and pre-meditated. I believe the jury made the right decision.

I was an abused child sexually by my older brother and physically by my dad and sister. So I really believe them and I feel sad for them, I really do. And if you look into the history of physical and sexual abuse by rich people and celebrities then you understand that they are telling the truth. Look at Corey Haim. It's awful what they have been through.

@CityBohoGirl

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry you were forced to endure that sadistic torture. I believe you.

@GA-fz2wt

Жыл бұрын

So sorry and I hope you are doing OK.

If I was their mother, I’d be the one in prison for killing their father 😡

@lahaza6515

Жыл бұрын

Their mother dismissed and covered for the father for years.

@samie7025

Жыл бұрын

A lot of mothers are complicit in their children’s ab u se and hide behind the father. But Kitty was an ab u ser too😞

@Veedub09

11 ай бұрын

If I was their mother I would have killed my husband. Then help my kids hide his body. Kidding, I’d have reported the dirty sod. No one would touch my kids and get away with it.

@kayakazi7765

5 ай бұрын

Ja mother's just hide it.....they prioritise their husbands more than their kids it's aick

Chase is talking about a triggered trauma response. Because the nervous system doesn’t tell time, when we recall something traumatizing, the entire body and brain are engaged as if we are surviving that trauma again.

@annekagonzalez694

3 жыл бұрын

100%, that really makes sense to me having survived childhood trauma too

@wlknonsonshine

3 жыл бұрын

PTSD

@feenarvaez65

3 жыл бұрын

And that's why cps is being sued

@raineydaygirl5970

3 жыл бұрын

In the simplistic form; As a mature adult, when a parent demeans you in that familiar, condescending tone; “Oh, Kathy...”- You spring right back into the emotional mind of your “10-year-old self”, even though you’re 60! I’m sure we’ve all experienced it. These scars run deep. Suddenly, you’re that kid who disappointed or fell short...again.

@ginabattz9716

3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY. 💯

i got out of an abusive (verbal /emotional/physical) long term situation with my mother at 19 (after being abused since I was 5 or 6) by literally just running away and now I am 30 . The police actually asked me if I wanted to put her in jail and in the end I just told them I want an ongoing permanent restraining order. Honestly, I think society imagines family, especially mothers as people that can "do no wrong" and that by doing this (restraining order) I am being cruel to my parents, but they dont really understand the longterm scars that abuse can lead that is almost like killing a child.

@astrid5522

3 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@AM-kq6tv

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adara007 Hi there. Yes it's getting better. I have been trying to get back in relationship with my cousins now. I tried to get back to see if I could do a relationship with my mom, but that is not the case. I also have been working a lot on myself, a lot of therapy, and I eventually want to go back to school for a master's in psychology as well because I feel that I could be helpful for others in that way. I am encouraged by your words and I'm glad you were able to make a negative to a positive. The biggest thing I am dealing with right now is the aftereffects it gives you. Sometimes I just randomnly blank on things. Sometimes someone may say something to me but I dont hear them. A lot of self judgement in my head.

@AM-kq6tv

3 жыл бұрын

@Kybele Kordax I'd like to connect if that's ok

This was interesting, thank you. I watched this trial as it was happening, it was one of the most heart wrenching trials I have ever seen. I believed Lyle and Eric were abused, that abuse fractured them and the parents received a just sentence.

@johndeagle4389

Жыл бұрын

The brothers were lying. By killing his mother, Lyle said on tape to his therapist, the brothers “were doing her and us a favor . . . putting her out of her misery, really.” But it would be ridiculous to kill only their mother, Lyle Menendez said, and leave their father alive. Erik Menendez said. “He was putting my mother through torture,” Lyle Menendez said, “we thought that we would just kill Dad, and eliminate the problem.”

Interesting that Jose Menendez has since been accused of drugging and raping a member of Menudo--a boy band. He was a music exec and that industry has a reputation for such abuses that has come out in recent days.

@DreuThomas-tf2ts

Ай бұрын

Oh really?

As a survivor of childhood abuse by my parents, I can totally confirm that being in the moment of a memory can cause a survivor to revert back to a child. I will disassociate or go into child mode whenever there is confrontation or I'm worried that I've upset someone or if I've done something wrong... even just spilling a drink... I apologise all the time to the point where my husband has told me countless times that I say sorry too much but the residual guilt makes me feel like I've still not said sorry enough. I constantly feel like I'm not good enough. I cannot imagine how traumatic it must be to have experienced such horrific abuse only to end up in jail without any chance for freedom. Trauma upon trauma upon trauma.

@lonewolfheart1697

3 жыл бұрын

@America's Rabbit Hole Thank you for sharing too. I totally relate to fearing that your partner will leave. I still don't understand why my husband stays with me. I have so many issues but I've spent years in and out of therapy but I still have a poor view of myself. It's a comfort to know we're not alone. BIG HUGS xx

@carolnichols2869

3 жыл бұрын

Funny, my reaction was to harden. Apologies were never said cause they were never accepted. The abuse only stopped when the anger was spent. It has been difficult, but life goes on. We are damaged for life. I had to break the cycle so I didn't hurt my own children, though I wanted to. When that is all you learned, it is difficult to learn another way. I am 61 now and a great grandma. Hugs to you both.

@jeanettecook1088

3 жыл бұрын

All of what you said, true, and so familiar to me. I have CPTSD and become dysregulated in the face of loud noises or shouting (prelude to beatings), sudden events like collisions, loss of balance, sudden vulnerability. I revert instantly and become very rattled and scared. It's almost impossible to stop the reaction, even though I'm an adult and might know rationally what happened. There is no greater plague in our society than the general prevalence of child abuse.

@mothermayi7832

3 жыл бұрын

I agree totally.

@rbrown6476

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanettecook1088 me too - about the loud noises . It causes a confusion that almost paralyses me and I’m nearly 70! I then behave like a frightened kid who has done something wrong. It’s so damaging but I managed to bring up my kids to be super kind and they are saved from the cycle that so often goes on. I think kids in school should be taught how to be a good parent! They would then recognise if their own parents are abusive, plus be better prepared to be a parent themself. I found that counselling still helps every now and then, plus a 10 minute mediation for the anxiety. X

My heart broke for these two brothers. I really liked how the panel pointed out common traits and adapters that abused kids develop. I could just imagine the two of them being broken as young boys and it just made me sick! I have a young boy of my own and it makes my stomach hurt to think of how these two suffered! I'm sorry, but not sorry, I can't muster much sympathy for the parents. The mother and father sentenced both of thier sons to a life sentence long before the murders.

These lads should not be in prison. They are not a danger to anyone and have suffered so much.

51 witnesses including family & friends who visited the home testified for the defense about the abuse the boys suffered from both parents. Very disturbing behavior

@sandrabast7080

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad they didn’t speak up in time to save two innocent boys from becoming killers. How could anyone stand by? 51 people seemed to able to do it? Really? Shame. They let those parents ruin them. For God’s sake!

@pinkpugginz

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandrabast7080 because Jose was a powerful millionaire mogul

@sandrabast7080

3 жыл бұрын

@@pinkpugginz Thanks for the introspective. I bet you’re right.

@harrietcraig7817

2 жыл бұрын

It also was proved that Lyle suborned perjury-why the 50 eyewitnesses weren’t invited to the second trial.

@YourEverydaySheep

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrietcraig7817 That's not why a bunch of those witnesses didn't testify and in one of those cases the friend (Brian Esliminia) that Lyle asked to lie for him said that Lyle had asked him early on in his jail time (before Lyle had agreed to testify and before he had even revealed his own molestation by his father to therapists). Lyle called the friend up and told him he wouldn't be needed anymore because Lyle had agreed to testify himself and speak truthfully about his abuse. This was also corroborated by his jail priest Father Ken. One of the other instances it was stipulated to at trial that Lyle had asked his former girlfriend to lie on the advice of his previous counsel, the same year as his arrest. The only other instance of this was a letter Lyle sent to another ex girlfriend asking her to testify about a previous dinner they had together with the parents. There is debate as to whether this incident is actually true or not since there's no real indication in the letter that Lyle was asking her to lie. Outside of this all of the events seemed pretty minor in regards to their entire defense so I don't really find them to be significant, especially seeing as their own lawyers (Jill Lansing and Leslie Abramson) were actively trying to prevent Lyle from doing this. (Brian Esliminia spoke about how Leslie Abramson scolded and berated him for even agreeing to help Lyle in the first place)

Greg seems like the sweetest, kindest and gentlest man in the world. At the same time one you would never mess with. I think most true alphas are like that. A teddy bear, but a grizzly bear at the same time.

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Greg ❣ Hartley

@MsTammi125

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I agree I think he's so cool for his knowledge

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Nailed it.

@stephaniek1076

3 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine if he had a daughter, and when she got old enough to date? Wouldn't want to be a guy in that scenario! Or maybe the daughter either. Ha!

@brassholio

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly it. True alphas are people who don't need to tell you that they're alphas.

I think the grief muscle isn't there because he's not in the grieving stage yet; he's still just a confused, lonely little boy who's relieved to be heard for the first time in his life.

I can't see justice by these men bring imprisoned for being molested and abused their entire lives. worst crime trial I've ever seen. So sad for them

People who have been abused become great observers, it takes years and years for others to learn. Yep, true. I lived it and can pick up on things many others can't.

@imjusthereforthecomments4159

3 жыл бұрын

That blew my mind when they said that. I always wondered why I have such a good eye for detail and can pick up on things so easily. Kind of sad though

@barbiesergio7663

3 жыл бұрын

@@imjusthereforthecomments4159 yes. It's very true and sad. From what I've researched abused people can feel so much of what others are feeling, but then have a hard time connecting with themselves. This is part of the work that has to happen as you get older so you can learn your true self.

@aie_aie_

3 жыл бұрын

I knew three adults who had been severely abused as children and had become very skilled manipulators... but they were also victims of other manipulators because they were trapped in certain patterns (e.g., while pathologically playing daddy to other adults, they were each looking for a father figure, were convinced by any sign of authority, were severely under the sway of a friend or shrink, etc.) I say this just to remind you that abuse can activate and train certain skills, but at the same time create major blind spots on one's own functioning. The key is to go to the end of self-knowledge and deconditioning.

Greg, I am sure many of your viewers have said this, but I am deeply sorry for your loss and for that of your wife. I have one child, a son who is an adult. I can only imagine the nightmarish and never ending heartbreak this has caused you both. There can be no greater loss. 💔

@VioletJoy

3 жыл бұрын

I was also going to offer my condolences. I always say there is no greater loss than to lose a child. Our son was recently in a horrible car accident and has severe brain damage. We can barely function. I can only imagine what devastation the finality of losing a child would be like. 💔

@christopherferriman5876

3 жыл бұрын

@@VioletJoy So sorry to hear about your sons accident my thoughts and love to your family

@VioletJoy

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherferriman5876 I really appreciate that. He recently spent his 21st birthday in the hospital - not exactly what we had in mind.

@KatrinaDancer

3 жыл бұрын

@@VioletJoy I'm sorry to hear that. I had a serious pedestrian accident when I was 21 and got hit in a crosswalk by a car going 40mph. Recovering mentally and emotionally was a million times more difficult than recovering physically, which wasn't easy either. Hopefully you can all get professional support.

@KatrinaDancer

3 жыл бұрын

Oh geez I didn't know this. I'm so sorry. 💜

Greg, the conflict Lyle had with his brother before calling 911 was that Erik was in so much distress that Lyle had to drag him from the room their parents were twice because Erik was going there constantly. You can hear Erik screaming on the 911 call and Lyle telling him, screaming at him to get out of there (he went back several times during Lyle's phone call) And also you said about Erik how he leans forward to hear better, he was disgnosted with multiple speech, hearing and understanding disorders and severe PTSD. Also i want to point out that their therapists said that at the time of the crime their emotional maturity was between the ages of 10-12, if we can explain Lyle's crying on the phone (Chase said something about this) Mark, i think the soften of, what we all call abuse, and called it "thing", happened because, compared with the other things their father was doing to him, is insignificant. Also they had therapy for the past 3 years in prison , a reason, maybe of dissociation. Scott, the fact that his head was down when he said that his mom didnt interviene, is not only because he is ashamed, is more because he thinks she shouldve interviene when his father was molesting him; his mom knowing about it from the begining. And thank you for bringing up the fact that they were trained not to show emotion. That particular thing was their father philosophy, never to show emotions, dont let people read you. He also "trained" them how to not show pain. Mark, in the closing you said you cant really say if there was an other motive for killing, and the other guys said that they dont think they were in fear for their lives. For that, you have to know or listen to them testify about what happned the week prior to the killings. And i'm going to point it out in a few sentences: 1. Erik found out that he was still going to have to sleep at home 4 nights a week even if he was going to be on a college compus (so the sexual molestation wouldnt stop) 2. Erik tells his brother about the abuse he endured for 12 years (Lyle's abuse was from 6-8 years old, Erik's was from 6-18 years old) because he was afraid he would kill himself otherwise, he wanted Lyle to do something about it. 3. They found out their mother knew about the sexual abuse all their lives and never intervened. 4. Lyle confronts his father, telling him that if he wont stop touching Erik, he will tell the police and the family, Jose refuses to stop the molestation and at some point (on the night of the killings) as Lyle is talking about a place he wants to go for a tennis training, Jose says something like "why you want to go? it doesnt matter anymore now" as if he already decided to kill his sons due to the fact that they now want to go to the police. As Lyle said, a lot of things happened in that last week to really make them believe that their parents were going to kill them. If someone happened to read all this and is willing to know more about the case but doesnt want to spend months (like me) watching the trial on Court Tv, please watch the mini series Erik Menendez speaks on, called "Erik tells all" relating everything that happened . Thank you for this video, it was really interesting and powerful!

@dianjane

3 жыл бұрын

THIS is excellent. I nominate you for your own show.

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

Also another thing i would like to add for people saying Lyle lied about his mothers sexually abusing him: Dr Conte evaluated Lyle throughout the 90s and he mostly focused on Lyles abuse. He said that talking about his father was emotional for him, however some aspects of abuse by his mom was “positive” for Lyle and that he really yearned for affection from his mother and her doing that was somewhat positive for him, he noticed those details while talking to him. He also recounted that Lyle was very reluctant and refused to fully open up to him about his abuse. Lyle experienced several other very traumatic stuff but he downplayed it on the stand to protect his parents, he was not lying about anything.

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

There are also other testimonies from different people that really proves that it’s most likely that Lyle got molested by his mother too. But people sadly too often love to say it’s a lie.

@heikelehrerin

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! What a great comment!

Amazing that you guys said this two years ago and now with the Menudo documentary, it has come out that the Menendezes's father also raped one or some of the band members... so now the Menendez brothers are going to try to appeal again. I hope they get a shot at being free.

@cynthiakluck-johnson5895

Жыл бұрын

I do too. I feel bad bc I misjudged these guys back in the day. Now that I am a mental health counselor and I see so much trauma, I'm so ashamed of myself.

I grew up in an extremely controlled, abusive household. We were good kids who suffered for doing things like talking to each other in the house or stealing food from the refrigerator . I lived in fear and tried to live by all the rules so I didn’t suffer as much as my older siblings. to get right to my point, when I heard the Menendez brothers had shot their parents I thought that some horrible stuff must have happened, projecting my experience onto their situation. Throughout my childhood I thought the only way out of this hell is if my parents would die. Anytime I saw an ambulance drive past me on my walk home from school, I’d hope so strongly that it was her having a heart attack or something that would be fatal. If I were a boy with the pent up rage , I can easily see obliterating them for never protecting or caring for me. What you don’t know on the child side is that the hell is with you even if manage to get out. I can realistically see them shooting their parents to end the pain, but getting rid of them won’t take away the damage. For all of us, living free or not, your whole life is damaged.

@moniquemonicat

2 жыл бұрын

The only difference is they were RICH and the minute they killed they went out and shopped for extremely expensive items and cars and luxury items. Greed.

@naeco1602

2 жыл бұрын

@@moniquemonicat I understand that it's easy to believe that they did it out of greediness. The logic is they are already rich and the family members testified that there is no change in their spending meaning they can really buy whatever they want even tho they haven't killed their parents. I know that accusing something negative is way easier than protecting them right?

@naeco1602

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. I burst into tears when I saw a clip from the trial seeing Erik cried reminded me of happened to me before. Im so into this case that I will do what I can to help them in any way.

@annthhallaaa5819

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you should call them greedy. I think you should call them victims of abuse.

@toniwendt6604

Жыл бұрын

Sunset, I felt I was reading my own story. I’m so sorry that you had to go through such a horrific childhood, but you are not alone…blessings sister!❤️

You four realize by now that we -the panelists-are watching as much to fangirl you guys as we are “the content” 😊❣️😘❤️

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

🙃

@Skinny4406

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel so THAT'S what that emoji is for

@demyitra1704

3 жыл бұрын

Dibs on Mark 🤭🥰

@danielleceleste4791

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianjane I said fangirl not onlyfan. For goodness sake it’s online fanspeak for their synergy and communication as a cohort. What in the world 😳!

@chasehughesofficial

3 жыл бұрын

🤩

Forgot all about these guys! Great video, as always. So.... I'm a flight medic. We work 24 hour shifts. As soon as admin is gone for the day (they're a bunch of buzzkills), our tones are replaced with Mark saying "HELP, HELP" when we get a call out 😏 Unless I cant use his voice without permission. If that's the case, this is strictly a hypothetical scenario.

@crowmedicine3890

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao! That's truly awesome!

@dianedeck

3 жыл бұрын

Lol thats so cool. Might as well make the best out of a potentially bad situation and start off on a light note. Marks Help,Help cry is the best.

@jennifermulherin2947

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

DM me at ScottRouse.com and I’ll send you the mp3 and wav files. 🙂👍

@lovelightshine2329

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, well he doesn't own the phrase...however if you are using recording of Mark actually saying it...nah, your still good.

The other video of what they went through is unimaginable that parents could do this & make them act like they are proper. Family's used to keep all the downfalls secret because no one wanted the neighbors to know God forbid. I pray they get another trial 🙏🏻 ✝️

Yes!!!!!!! Oh my goodness I shouted ‘yes’ out loud when this popped up on my phone!!!! Going to get snacks and watch it right away!!!!!

@WiteDahlia

3 жыл бұрын

I know, right ? 🙌

@jamesburton9708

3 жыл бұрын

🤨

@BirdBird_NatureNerd

3 жыл бұрын

👆This! What a terrible case but really interested to get your individual and collective analysis. Thank you!

@bcarolinaw

3 жыл бұрын

You're not alone! 🤓🍿

@rinac2733

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

I literally gasped and screamed "NO!!?" when I saw that thumbnail. No later than yesterday I was thinking to myself I wish the panel would do the Menendez brothers.

@joanlonganeckerbaechler4591

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! 🤪🤪🤪

@MauiBodyworker

3 жыл бұрын

Same...audible gasp to no one 🤣

@caramelfrappuccino234

3 жыл бұрын

I gasped as well. Saved it to my watch later list earlier today. Laying in bed watching now...

@kerriecarr6287

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

As a thriver who experienced early childhood abuse they are absolutely 💯 telling the truth. Intuitively I know it

@monikahardwick9402

Жыл бұрын

Ditto that!

People just didn't want to hear about boys being raped by their own father, and they blamed these guys for talking about it. Watch the whole trial and listen to the way the judge e.g. talks to them - total contempt verging on anger and hatred. You were boys! Why didn't you just punch him off? That actually seems to be the attitude. Meanwhile they were 6 when the dad started assaulting them. Personally I don't blame them for killing their rapists - and I do include the sadistically complicit mom in that - just to make it end. Hell, just as revenge. But I can also believe they legitimately feared for their lives.

@bonniehitchcock3191

Жыл бұрын

Agree!

Whew. This one was hard... I knew about them but never saw any footage, and the level of abuse seems horrible. What a horrible waste of four lives. Scott, you’re so cute when you get mad and say “Dadgummit!” ☺️

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

🙃

@cherylbradley9156

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha! Yes. That was cute. 💛✨

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

Actually 5 lives, their cousin Andy later overdosed over years of guilt in 2003 for not helping Erik when he told him about the abuse when he was 13 and Andy was 10.

@DreamingCatStudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@gx9954 Oh my goodness. More tragedy.

@hydrangeadays

3 жыл бұрын

@@gx9954 Oh, wow. I hadn't heard about this. So sad.

I get excited everytime I see their thumbnail pop up on my recommendation

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Yay!

I'm totally with Chase. When you're in an abusive household, you are groomed and softening language is the way the horror is swept under the rug and "normalized". So, so sad. These boys grew up with horror. They "snapped". The spending a lot is not so weird to me, either- they lived in 90210, maybe that was a type of psychological revenge. A shout of "freedom".

When Lyle was 16-17 years old, he started losing his hair out of stress, and by the time he went to college, he was totally bald on the top of his head. poor guy has had to wear a hairpiece since before he graduated High School. How humiliating! Pops was a douche

How come they don't have people like these guys as jurors. Instead of regular people that can't read people from telling truth or lying. 🤔

@VivPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't change the fact that they killed their parents in cold blood. It was pre-meditated. If they were so afraid, as legal adults, they could have left their home and gone no-contact. It's not that people don't empathize with the abuse they've been through, but it was an unnecessary murder of two people.

@YourEverydaySheep

3 жыл бұрын

@@VivPhotography Well the legal defence the brothers had argued was imperfect self defence and all that is really required is that the person has a genuine but unreasonable belief that their life is in danger. It's definitley possible that the brothers were in fear at the time and there is evidence which points towards the killing being unplanned. This is why they had two hung juries in their first trial.

@samie7025

3 жыл бұрын

@@VivPhotography Nah... If the death penalty was made for anyone, it’s pedos. Also, their second trial was full of misconduct & parricide cases do not usually serve LWOP. They should’ve never been handed that sentence. Ever. Also, Abuse causes death... It’s not funny that ppl think you can break another person and it won’t come back around to bite you in the arse. Abuse in and of itself is a type of murder. Breaking someone else’s spirit the way their parents did is a death. Ppl don’t take it seriously enough.

@ZNOM9

3 жыл бұрын

@@VivPhotography The abuse like they suffered doesn’t make you rational like an adult who has had loving, caring parents .

@RuthMcL1979

3 жыл бұрын

@@VivPhotography are you for real?!?! The brothers had the mental maturity of 10-12yrs old because of all they suffered, plus victims of long term abuse, sexual, physical, whatever, do not think rationally, they can’t do what others would see as “normal”! It’s why so many domestic violence victims are with the perpetrator for many years sometimes, they cannot ‘just leave’!! It’s why, sometimes, the victim kills in self-defence, because they see no other way for it to stop. In some cases, it takes the perpetrator hurting another person, a child, a family member, etc, for the victim to be able to ask for help or to retaliate

Really glad you did this one, as I must admit, I thought they were spoilt rich kids looking for an excuse, but I can see the genuineness in their testimony. A shame that they went to trial at a time when this defence wasn’t really accepted or well understood

It’s a an absolute crime that the 2 of them are in prison.

@rhondawhite3742

6 ай бұрын

I agree! They were abused with no help! They snapped. 😢

why are these two still in prison?!?! let them out already, they've been through enough! even if they killed their parents because of past abuse, that abuse may have had a psychological effect so that they felt trapped and that killing their parents was the only way to escape them.

@commonsense2680

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

I believe that when asked about mum's reactions to dad's abuse, he looks down mouth half-open also for another reason. I think that he sees himself back then, remembers his mum doing nothing to help him, thinking that at the time, he didn't understand why mum wasn't helping. He felt confused, in pain and probably thinking that since mum had not reacted, it wasn't a big deal (what dad was doing to him), so he should not see it as abuse. Internal conflict caused by external, painful factors, the dearest people we trust as children, our parents. SHAME ON PARENTS LIKE THESE.

If those had been young women in that trial, instead of young men, there never would have been a 2nd trial. Boys being abused is still not treated the same way, but it is getting better.

@dianedeck

3 жыл бұрын

These aren't boys.

@lile8602

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianedeck you are right. They were young men, chronologically. Emotionally, I'd argue they were boys. Abuse victims often have arrested development and they were boys when the abuse started. Eric was still being raped and brutalized by his father. Since he was an adult, I don't think words like molested or abused apply. Rape and physical assault are more appropriate. Symantics aside, if 2 young women with the kind of history of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse starting in childhood and continuing into adulthood that these boys experienced, were on trial, the 1st hung jury would have been the end of it. Feminists would have championed them, books and movie deals would have followed. Women would not have been doubted. Boys/men who are sexually abused are treated differently. Especially back then, even still now.

@carolinebarber7573

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. It is heartbreaking to know how much they suffered during their formative years. You cannot come out of that unscathed. It is just pure horror. If it was young women, there is a strong likelihood they would have gotten off. Double standard. These men suffered extreme abuse. Turns my stomach.

@JaymePaladino

3 жыл бұрын

Boys (and men for that matter) are also more reluctant to come forward about their abuse. It makes it even more horrible to think how many cases are not even reported because of that. I think it's getting better though.

@hydrangeadays

3 жыл бұрын

@@lile8602 Well stated!

I love how Mark always builds up tension, starting to get you curious, waiting for the payoff. And in the end he goes..."so, what does it all mean...I don t know" Never fails to crack me up.

@ChaosandLogic

3 жыл бұрын

Mark is my favorite for sure

I grew up with a father who had money and power and he spanked me with a belt for every little thing I did wrong. He didn't SA me but i can relate to why they act the way they did and do. Unless u grow up like they did or even close to it then it's extremely difficult for ppl to understand. Also, back then, it was almost unheard of for boys to be SA and it was NEVER spoken about if it did. I can't imagine the amount of men who are now in their 40's and 50's that were SA but never said anything due to embarrassment or fear or both.

@cormorant12

3 жыл бұрын

As far as how they act now, they seem to be in a good place as far as you can be in their situation. They've had a lot of therapy towards recovery and have done a lot of good work in prison. They are in a kind of "prison-lite" currently. It's completely true that the jurors at the time (specifically male ones) just could not wrap their head around the idea of a father doing this to his sons. From that point of view the brothers never had a proper chance because without continued sexual abuse of Erik (not really the right term for it but the correct ones are rather graphic) their story falls apart, so if you can't believe it you must assume they were lying about the events that led up to them killing their parents. The women did not have trouble accepting that such abuse might happen even if they were not 100% convinced it did, but the men had real trouble getting past it, particularly in Erik's case. (Also, frankly, there was quite a lot of homophobia among the men and the prosecution fed into it by insinuating Erik was gay and that's why he could describe the sexual acts, which is the most ridiculous argument ever, because why believe any straight female CSA victim then?) The brothers received a lot of mail during the trials (and later) from CSA victims repeating over and over "nobody believed me"/"I don't think anyone will believe me".

@positiv3vybz236

3 жыл бұрын

@@cormorant12 ?? I don't assume they lied about the events.

@cormorant12

3 жыл бұрын

@@positiv3vybz236 I wasn't referring to you personally, sorry about that, just a general impersonal "you". It could be phrased as "so if one can't believe it one must assume they were lying about the events that led up to them killing their parents."

@positiv3vybz236

3 жыл бұрын

@@cormorant12 ohhhh ok I understand now lol sorry

@sharonmclachlan3690

3 жыл бұрын

@@cormorant12 It would be so, so, so difficult for anyone especially men to accept that a father would perform such disgusting acts on their sons. So in that sense it would be reasonable for them to struggle with such foul behavior. So for the second jury to not have full details of the abuse they would struggle with accepting Eric's testimony. No matter how you look at it the boys would have to be emotionally dead to not be in fear. Especially after the fight. Their senses would be so heightened their thinking, would have been all over the place. I don't think unless you have been through those types of stressful situations, in your own family especially, understanding that level of fear would seem totally unrealistic

I remember watching as a little girl and feeling like they were being honest about the abuse. Tragic case. Thanks for your analysis!!

@sashasash9940

3 жыл бұрын

They where abused ?? For real ?Not just claiming it to get away with it moore. Cause then i can maybe a bit understand why things went south.I dont know this case at all to be honest.

@crowmedicine3890

3 жыл бұрын

@@sashasash9940 yes, they were actually abused. From the time they were quite young, and horribly.

@kelseymariel2127

3 жыл бұрын

@@crowmedicine3890 At the time of that trial, none of that was believed. Lots of people believed back them they were fabricating that story to gain sympathy. Fast forward to today and it’s all being challenged.

@crowmedicine3890

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelseymariel2127 yes, you're right. I remember when this case happened. Everyone thought they were two evil guys just wanting to spend mom and dad's money.

@chg1264

3 жыл бұрын

@@crowmedicine3890 I think it’s a complex case. Lots of abuse and entitlement. They were already into petty crime and robbery.

At the beginning of the 911 call, the dispatcher asks Lyle "are the shooters still in the house?" Lyle says "yes" and quickly changes to "no."

@der5565

3 жыл бұрын

@@4Mr.Crowley2 no he was in state of shock lol its pretty obvious when you listen to it back, he was hysterical

I hope they get a chance to get out. New evidence came out this year. As a mother I will never allow that to happen to my kids, you do that, into the chooky you go! Sad situation

@ComradeFromRhody401

Жыл бұрын

Even as a kid watching this trial and all the media on them all painting them as monsters, I knew they were innocent. You could see it in their eyes. I knew in my heart they were defending themselves. As a victim of assault, and abuse myself, I knew they were telling the truth. They deserve a new trial and I believe they deserve to be free. It was self-defense.

@vickyyvirginia8080

Жыл бұрын

Y ahora a salido toda la verdad a la luz pobres hermanos Menendez su papá si abusaba de ellos y su mamá era complice de todo eso un ex - menudo acaba de confirmar que el Sr Menendez abusaba de niños lo abuso a el ex menudo 😢😢😢 busca el nuevo documental de un ex - menudo que acaba de declarar que ese señor era un violador de niños y su esposa se quedaba callada 😢😢

@looking4things669

Жыл бұрын

She didn't deserve to die. And it's likely they are exaggerating about her to get a lighter sentence.

@meganwilliams7434

11 ай бұрын

@@looking4things669 she did deserve to die she was just as bad as Jose her gender doesn’t make her innocent and if you think what you are saying is true then their relatives and other witnesses are also exaggerating about her explain to me as well why she had photos of their naked child genitals saved in an envelope with her handwriting on and addressed to her husband? bet you can’t so hush up if you know nothing about this case

"People who were abused as children are powerful observers." That's right! That's the only way we could survive. Love this channel, thanks guys.

@HK_Musician

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you develop hypervigilance

I'm sorry about the loss of your dog Scott.

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I miss Albert all day, every day. 🙁

@christinesbetterknitting4533

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel 😞 Sad on your behalf. My "Fardo" died 37 years ago and he is still a big part of my mental furniture (which he is not allowed to be on, btw).

@sofias8730

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel im sorry for your loss. 🌹

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Rest in powerful peace Albert 🙏

@Marsfruit

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel 😔😔🤍🤍🤍

I'd be interested in going through some Ted Bundy footage... especially where he was questioned about victims beyond what he was convicted for.

@renee7407

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, please do Ted Bundy.

@sashasash9940

3 жыл бұрын

I can only agree.Ive asked 3 times !

When you have suffered catastrophic abuse as a child, there is no question that if that person has the same access to you as an Adult, it WILL continue.

Since discovering this channel my consumption of music has gone down rapidly. On a binge run!

Ive developed a serious crush on all four of you handsome men! Thanks for doing this channel! It’s excellent!!

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Scott is my favorite. Probably because he’s handsomer than Chase and could probably beat up Greg too. And his nose is normal sized.

@anyasviews8415

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel Still my favourite as well, Scott, but there’s 3 Very Close runners up! 😁

@cherylbradley9156

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel 🤣. You’re all lovable in your own ways. Appreciate all of you!!

@mmatamoni

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel You have to stop saying that, your nose is 100% normal. I'm half italian and half lebanese, so you can trust me on this! And Chase looks orange. I really like the guy, learn a lot from him, but he is orange. I'm really sorry about your dog btw 🙏

@SummerLuvr7

3 жыл бұрын

Orange is my favorite color❣️

Chase sits so still and serious at times it almost looks like his screen freezes, lol.

@joanlonganeckerbaechler4591

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder if this is some military training lol? If those guys don’t move, you don’t see them!

@chasehughesofficial

3 жыл бұрын

I was in a SUPER noisy chair.

@labrigful

3 жыл бұрын

@@chasehughesofficial not like you should mute your mic. Lol

35 years with no hope for parole. Such a tragic waste. I think the sentence should be comuted because the abuse was censored for the second trial.

I watched the trial. I couldn't believe they threw out the evidence in the second trial that got a hung jury from the first. What a win for prosecution. There was so much testimony from friends and family that the boys were emotionally, mentally, verbally and physically abused. I am a grown adult produced from childhood emotional, metal, verbal and physical abuse. I absolutely believe the guys were abused. I think that they, as immature adolescent young men who's pre frontal cortexes weren't mature, DEFINITELY were in fear of more abuse. I know their anger about their mom was from her lack of caring about the abuse. She allowed it. She witnessed it. She was abused too. You can totally be angry at another person in the circle of abuse especially when they can't take up for you as their children. Maybe they profited from it, but I truly believe they had a love/hate (only abused ppl understand) with their parents. Did the parents deserve to die? I don't think so. In fact, I think justice doesn't include death. I cried with them on the stand. It's quite terrible either way you look at it. I 100% believe they were abused on many fronts. Keeping in mind I don't condone their actions. I can totally understand how they got to that point. I think they've spent enough time in prison especially when people who murder and rape children have gotten out in HALF the time. I watch a LOT of crime docs. Edit: the- hello police? I think he's actually saying Please. So we all know the call is deceptive since they are the killers. So the phone call to 911 seems to be the basis for the guys reacting to measure their known lying testimony. I still think he said 'Please' not police.

@andalistark5416

2 жыл бұрын

The abuse itself seems pretty much regarded as fact. Given that, i’m also baffled that these guys are still rotting in perpetuity. So many worse examples of humanity are walking free. Then again, to live this life with any expectation of “fairness” will only leave u empty handed & broken hearted.

@moniquemonicat

2 жыл бұрын

Just so you understand abuse physically or verbally or mentally does not get you excused from murder. Try to understand the law.

Personally I find Scott the most intuitive and empathetic when reviewing these cases. I think he’s spot on with his analysis of the feelings displayed towards the parents. He talks the least though which is a shame.....,again, just my view - everyone has a favourite no doubt. You’re all great though 😊

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

🙂

I think Diane Downs, would be an interesting one to analyze.

Horrific how their sexual abuse was dragged out of them in court.😊

I'm not justifying the sons' actions, but I believe them about the abuse, and the abusive parents literally raised them to not have appropriate coping and problem solving skills. Very sad story.

@vickyyvirginia8080

Жыл бұрын

Y ahora a salido toda la verdad a la luz pobres hermanos Menendez su papá si abusaba de ellos y su mamá era complice de todo eso un ex - menudo acaba de confirmar que el Sr Menendez abusaba de niños lo abuso a el ex menudo 😢😢😢 busca el nuevo documental de un ex - menudo que acaba de declarar que ese señor era un violador de niños y su esposa se quedaba callada 😢😢

@sillyk6688

Жыл бұрын

Their case veers really close to justifiable homicide. Not quite, but close. They were legally adults at the time, but basically still boys raised in a grossly abusive environment.

Oh you guys really pay attention to the comments! You spoil us! 🤩🥺

I have to apologise !!! I think I"m becoming a stalker...............every week I find myself lurking in the shadows watching and waiting for your notification bell to ring.................Thank you for another excellent analysis.

@donnaflynn8064

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer groupie, a little less creepy.

@maureeningleston1501

3 жыл бұрын

@@donnaflynn8064 Ur right, I would like to amend that to an over enthusiastic panellist.

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

😮

The abuse was real, I think they just had enough. Put yourself in their shoes, you have been abused by your father for most of your life, they could not do much about it when they were children, but as they got older, they decided to end it. I think they killed their mother out of anger, for not maybe standing up for them. But saying this, their mother was most probably abused by her husband, as you generally find in abusive relationships. They could have handled this way better than they did, but I suppose in their minds, they wanted payback for all the pain their father had caused them over the years.

@samie7025

Жыл бұрын

They said the abuse was real. It’s the motive that most experts seem to be lost on. They agree that it was not about money though which helps narrow down, once again, that it comes back to the abuse which is interesting…

Listening & watching Erik talk about swimming was so sad. During the trial, he sobbed. This is when I knew these "boys" were not lying about the sexual abuse. It seemed to me, although powerless, Lyle wanted to protect his brother.

@hsmviewer9344

2 жыл бұрын

Helen I absolutely agree with your comments, I felt the crying was rehearsed and I also feel this act came at such ease I believe they have used this all their lives to get anything they want from their parents. There is something that is deeply hurtful to survivors of child sexual abuse which these two neglected to address in any interview I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. Yes I do believe their father was strict and in effect abusive, but not for one second do I believe there was sexual abuse. I feel they are focussed on convincing those in front of them that they are sweet and innocent not unlike a toddler when they have done something wrong and still want rewards rather than be punished.

@thecawdsquad875

2 жыл бұрын

Oh they were totally lying and killed them for the money,.

@suzum5689

2 жыл бұрын

@@hsmviewer9344 Kinda confused here. Helen said "This is when I knew these 'boys' were NOT lying about the sexual abuse". Yet, you say you absolutely agree with her comments, while adding that you do NOT believe 'for a second' that there was sexual abuse. Am I reading these wrong, or what???

@hsmviewer9344

2 жыл бұрын

​@@suzum5689 I was so angry watching the video, my original typed response was far too long and too angry so I deleted most of my response which left an unclear remark. I agree with Helen when she comments about the dad's behaviour when giving swimming lessons. I don't for one second believe either had been sexually abused. I have experienced physical abusive swimming lessons which was by far worse than what they expressed occurred to them. If you are wondering, yes I am a survivor, a survivor of abuse that is of another level or two compared to what Erik & Lyle claim to have experienced. When I watched their eyes and facial expressions as they spoke of being abused I felt they seemed more interested in others reactions and it seemed to me to be a performance and as actors do they look around to gage how successful their performance has been. Finally there is one very specific feeling that all abused people feel and that feeling has never been expressed by either Erik or Lyle .

@suzum5689

2 жыл бұрын

@@hsmviewer9344 Thank you so much for your response. I'm sorry you've been abused. That has never been my experience, so I can't even imagine. (And I totally understand about having to delete and rewrite. Oh my goodness- I couldn't even COUNT the number of times I've had to do it!) May your life be blessed from here on out.

These poor guys never had a chance in life and I presume the majority of viewers will never understand what a mix of fear and shame creates. They were failed by their parents, coaches, teachers and eventually the judicial system.

Thank you thank you for covering this terrible story. I find the boys testimonies utterly heartbreaking 😢😢😢

@sophieh9387

3 жыл бұрын

Me too.. since the case, I always felt they should have had therapy and set free..

@MarkBowden1

3 жыл бұрын

It's pretty hard stuff to watch.

@gl3390

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarkBowden1 would you guys do a part 2 reading into their testimonials, please? I really love to see your take on whether they are truthful or not.

They should not be in jail. What they went through at the hands of those monsters was horrific. If they could have done this when they were kids, it would have been considered self-defense.

I have always believed that they were telling the truth. They should not have been convicted. I feel so sorry for both of them.

@meeeeeeeeeeeep

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Absolutely heartbreaking for them and it's so sad how many refuse to believe they were abused bc of the fact that they're men. 💔

At the time of the trial I thought they were evil, spoilt kids. Now I see them as victims who couldn’t take the life long abuse anymore. Tortured by the father and a mother who let it happen.

@purplebasquiat

3 жыл бұрын

Yes- the media really painted them as privileged and evil kids. This video is an eye-opener.

@ameliadishion6059

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, my opinion on them has shifted.

@cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338

3 жыл бұрын

They are evil. It’s not unusual for victims to turn into perpetrators. Hopefully they never get out.

@cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338

3 жыл бұрын

@Norma Jean Vandever Sociopathic murderers deserve to be unleashed on society as long as they were victims.

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

@Norma Jean Vandever stop bringing up the will, that theory got debunked in court

Scott, it seems true that they were trained not to show emotions. The brothers mention several times that their parents didn't like them to show emotions.

@kelseymariel2127

3 жыл бұрын

I think many of us who grew up during a particular time had parents who fit into this category. Lot different today.

@hydrangeadays

3 жыл бұрын

Kids who had parents who were emotionally abusive hate it when a child displays anything but positive emotions

I'm so sorry your adorable dog died, Scott. I understand the grief from losing a beloved pet.

Scott has a comforting voice, reminds me of Bob Ross. Thanks for the videos!

@Chekery_animatinons

3 жыл бұрын

I love listening to Scott but he reminds me more of Milhouse than Bob Ross

I had a friend in school she was abused by her father from 6-10 years old. I had spend every day with her and you would never know that something is wrong. Then when she was 10 i saw the bruises on her all over, talked to my teacher and she called police. Her father admited all of it and you know what he got ??? Maybe 2 years in jail because i saw him near that same school.

Imagine going to your girlfriend's place for dinner and her dad turns out to be one of these panel guys....

@toodlescae

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Talk about cutting to the chase (no pun intended)

@chrisb.4323

3 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣😂

Yay! This is one I've been hoping you'd cover. Could you please do Nichol Kessinger (Chris Watts' girlfriend) and her possible guilty knowledge or involvement?

@Smaugette

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, not sure I could listen to her voice ever again.

When people are raised and conditioned outside of cultural norms it is difficult to see the world through their eyes.

Descriptions of abuse in the home are dead on accurate. Granted, plenty survive without murder... too easy to judge what will break children and create such an outcome.

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@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

John Bennett Ramsey, please

@PeteretePeter

2 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Bamber.

I know what I'm doing with the next 1 hour 36 minutes and 20 seconds of my evening.

Timestamp Guide 1:25 Quick run down 3:01 Clip One 3:47 Eyebrows 6:00 Jugular vain 6:39 Lip biting adapter 9:01 Signaling with brows 9:19 Biting lip to contain 9:54 What an adapter is 11:29 Tactic to try & get subjects shoulders even to avoid unconscious fighting stance 13:13 Clip Two 21:18 Clip Three (911 call) 23:30 Red flags 24:35 S.T.R.I.P. 27:18 What's missing 28:23 Story vs. Crime 29:30 Significant Changes 33:08 Clip Four 35:20 Auditory/Digital memory 39:32 Illustrators 43:47 Clip Five 47:43 Anti gravity movements 48:40 Clip Six 51:44 Clip Seven 1:01:18 Clip Eight 1:02:45 Softening of language 1:05:10 Honest vs. Nervous Behavior 1:06:42 Distancing language 1:10:00 Clip Nine 1:11:07 Step one for trial consultants 1:12:20 Signs of real crying 1:13:47 What's hardest to reproduce 1:17:30 Greg shows us his grief muscle & chin boss skills 1:18:27 Clip Ten 1:20:30 Traumagenic arrested development 1:24:21 Clip Eleven 1:25:32 Barriers 1:26:54 Blink rate increase & recall 1:28:46 Team focused pronouns 1:29:30 Compartmentalization & dissassociation 1:32:18 BP giving their verdict

Жыл бұрын

thankssss

Gentleman, I'm a recent subscriber and have been binge watching. This video convinced me your genius may have a blind spot. It's clear to me, as a survivor of childhood (sexual-mental-verbal) abuse & emotional deprivation. Sitting-on hands = abuser probably warned him not to make any defensive moves. My personal Lived Experience; as an example: my mother screaming, "Stand and take it! How many times can I hit you? Eventually, I'll stop!" Equally, with aggressive dogs, her teaching was that I should never flee from an attack. Fair enough, I understood the logic. The result? I got bitten three times by rabid dogs. 14 shots in the abdomen, times THREE! Aside: we lived in a 3rd world country, not in a feverish dream of Cujo. Victims present differently to most people because IT'S ALL ABOUT THE POWER DYNAMIC! Both brothers show the deference victims often display towards people with greater power. Here, it's the prosecutor. Picture them in front of the father. Of COURSE, they called it Training. It's distancing, it may be the term the father/abuser used to explain the context of WHY-for what he's putting them through. Example: this training will make you a big strong man!

@chanted1558

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you and I feel that type of abuse affects the psyche on a dangerously deep level. I admit to being biased but I feel that's a trigger for justifiable homicide And I know that may be because I haven't reached that level of healing in my journey. However, I can't deny the fact that ALL forward motion for a victim psychologically, emotionally, etc. has to be based in self empowerment and accountability. Whenever a victim of abuse acts without accountability they are complicit. These men chose to take the lives of Thier abusers , which I can not judge, but they did so with the intent of refusing to take accountability for Thier actions. The situation has evolved from David vs. Goliath and is now the Apprentice succeeding his master. They have to own Thier actions and accept the punishment is justified, it's the only thing that will set them free.

@jellys2162

3 жыл бұрын

i'm sorry you went through bad things!!! hope you're well now 🕊✨

I feel so bad for those two brothers, they never stood a chance. Their parents destroyed them with abuse.

@zephyr246

3 жыл бұрын

It seems like so many prisoners need therapy and rehab. Not prison.

@sharhallett8559

3 жыл бұрын

It makes me so sad that they ended up in prison 🥲 . They have had no life !

At the dinner table....age 11....when Eric said “He would just look at her” , the memory of that, his eye movement looking up and tone of voice indicate, to me, that in his father’s look at his wife was an attitude/tone of “don’t you dare say a word” ! Facial/eye movement , intake of breath, indicates that he feels anger and strong disgust of his father. How these children suffered in horror. It is inconceivable. I know of someone who has seen “that look”. That look from his father, evokes extreme fear and she shuts down ....it is a strong , evil, psychological punch to the gut! * Extreme pain and shame when Lyle talks about his father’s abuse. Were these guys sentenced as they were , because no one knows/knew what else to do with them?

@marina-oe8ls

3 жыл бұрын

they purposely set up the second trial for their first degree murder conviction. they did not allow testimonies of the sexual abuse and the defense was extremely limited. the judge also basically got rid of the “imperfect defense” the defense argued in the first trial so the jury only had murder options. extremely sad and miscarriage of justice.

@toodlescae

3 жыл бұрын

50 years later I still sometimes duck or flinch if someone raises their hand real fast when they're close enough to hit me.

@Doxymeister

3 жыл бұрын

Expressions are so interesting, regarding that "look at his wife" at the dinner table. My own Dad could freeze us kids with "The Look"--but neither of my parents were abusive. It was simply a no-nonsense look that said "No, and that's my final answer." or "Don't talk back, period." Many years later after he retired, my Dad worked part time as a bus driver for our state-run residential school for deaf and hard of hearing children. He was too old by then to effectively learn American Sign Language. When the kids started getting rowdy on his bus, he only needed to look into the rear-view mirror and give them "The Look" and they settled down. He never punished them and rarely even turned in to the school for bad behavior. "The Look" was enough; he was strict, but also very fair. It is amazing how much can be communicated with only a look. I do feel sad for the Menendez brothers, I can see their father giving that signal not to interfere.

@pennysue8849

3 жыл бұрын

Most of us at some point seen "the look"

I like what you're saying about all of the trauma affecting their answers now, and to speak to that Mark, it was not socially acceptable to discuss ANY of this back then, it's only recently that it has become more of an open discussion.

I love the fact that I sense compassion in Greg, without him even expressing it.