Something to know is that the Greeks called all dark skinned Africans Ethiopian and the practice did persist until the late middle ages in a sort of archaic labeling.

We need a proper Game Of Thrones or House Of The Dragon level type adaptation of the Trojen War.

@PD-we8vf

7 ай бұрын

It’s happening right now on the souther border.

I love the idea during the the post Iliad, the Trojan War is more of a wide conflict with the addition of Amazons and Ethiopians fighting with the Trojans as allies against the Greeks. Both of their leaders fought and killed in combat by Achilles and he should be remembered as the greatest warriors in Greek Mythology 😊

@xo-1320

7 ай бұрын

Ethiopia unfortunately didn't exist within the time of the legend. This video is based on later revisions from the Late Roman period.

@thomaslozano4135

7 ай бұрын

@@xo-1320 well it was called Aethiopians back then.

@xo-1320

7 ай бұрын

@@thomaslozano4135 no it was Abyssinia, the first instance of Ethiopia is post Greek Dark Ages and after the Trojan War was first written down. This is a late Roman revision due to translators not knowing historical context as a lot of ancient historians tended to only write about historical events decades or centuries afterwards and took the propaganda at face value.

@thomaslozano4135

7 ай бұрын

@@xo-1320 well whatever it may be it's Ethiopia or not, it doesn't matter just as long it's a good story, you don't have to be historically accuracy.

@xo-1320

7 ай бұрын

@@thomaslozano4135 ... people still treat Jotun as Giants despite them being from what little bits of pre-christianity we can find painting them as gods of chaos. Its actually important we don't use later revisions of a myth, especially given thats becoming a trend in the modern day.

my respects to Memnon

As a side note, the Aethiopians/Ethiopians mentioned in the Illyads and other Greek literature and Mythology are the Nubians/Kushites and not our modern day Ethiopians who were called Abyssinians at that time

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Not exactly. The Mythical kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology and the epic poems has nothing to do with Africa. Homer locates The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia to the East ➡️. NOT South ⬇️ of Egypt and Libya.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

@@VikingElfwhy are the colossi of Memnon called the colossi of Memnon lol they were referring to Africa Mr Viking. Why does this bother you so much???

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​@@korey15because the Romans reimagined romanticized and rationalized the myth of Memnon to bring it closer to reality and how they viewed the world at that time. To name a territory. The Colossi of Memnon were not built for Memnon. They were built for king Amenhotep the third and his father. The Egyptians don't even know who Memnon is. Do better. Educate yourself.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

@@user-bg1bm2cw6j you’re missing the point. Of course, the ancient Egyptians didn’t know who Memnon was, but the ancient Greeks did. And when they were in the Nile valley of AFRICA they saw statues and associated them with Memnon, because THEY BELIEVED he was a black African. Educate YOURSELF lol

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

@@korey15 no they did not. Memnon is NOT described believed or depicted as a black African character in Hellenic mythology and culture. What you are saying doesn't exist. If you personally want to believe he is a black African good for you it's your imagination your fantasy your right.

Hollywood is right now figuring out how to race swap a black character with a black character.

@deserenitatem

7 ай бұрын

What is a race?

@TheBee87bee

7 ай бұрын

Intriguing story!!!!

@TurboFrieza

7 ай бұрын

😂😂

@_genova6230

7 ай бұрын

don't forget the lgbtq dbz gt traniner who teaches him

@maestoso47

7 ай бұрын

This comment comes across as race baiting.

Mother was rosey cheeked and blonde haired Greek goddess, father was a fair skinned Trojan prince, and yet he's an Aethiopian with dark skin. Gotta love the weird genetics of Greek mythology.

@eelchiong6709

7 ай бұрын

Hint: They don't have DNA tests yet

@accountretired9479

7 ай бұрын

That was Achilles mother with the blonde hair

@Mr_Robotts

7 ай бұрын

@@accountretired9479 Eos was rosey cheeked and fair haired

@locusta-bw2vd

7 ай бұрын

@@Mr_Robotts Rosy fingered not rosy cheeked. The sky is painted rosy at dawn and Eos represents that.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

​@@locusta-bw2vdthat does NOT change the fact that both his parents are Hellenic. Eos is NOT described nor depicted as a Nubian Sub Saharan African woman in Hellenic culture.

Memnon's body was turned into an army of birds called the Memnonides. (Tell me that doesn't sound like a cool name for a Warriors guild!)

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Your Wrong. His army were turned into birds. Not Memnon.

@truthspreader1996

7 ай бұрын

@@VikingElf That's not what the information says.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 Well depending on your source of information. You can find different things. For example Memnon is NOT described being a African king in Hellenic mythology and culture. The Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa in Hellenic mythology. Memnon in the myth becomes an immortal and goes to Olympus. His army are transformed into birds. The Aethiopians that stayed close to Memnon and mourned the most, Eos turned them into birds and released them into the air. That's the original story from Hellenic Mythology and Culture.

Why didn't they put him in the movie Troy it was not accurate they should have made it accurate to the historical once again Hollywood failed

SAME GOES FOR YASUKE

@AlecFortescue

21 күн бұрын

Yasuke was a court attendant kept as a curiosity.

Love the photo at 2:12 Memnon Embodys his Devine mother Eos with the Sun on his shield

@user-mz1no2un8u

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the depiction of Memnon is NOT from Greek mythology or culture. But overall it's a good Approach to the character.

Netflix Troy should've read books more rather than send "Virtue Signalling" for cause of representation.

While he was in his fury wonder why Great Diomedes mot fought him. He was fought Great Ajax and forced him to take cover under his great shield. Had Achilles not coming at the right moment or had Memnon knows the Great Ajax weaknesses in which in his armpit, Ajax Telamonius might be slain by Memnon. Thus will change the course of war if the body of Achilles none able to recover it from the wrath of Trojans led by Aeneas. The hero Antilochus, Memnon and Achilles slain at the same day. 3:51

Forget Hector,Memnom is the worthy opponent of Achilles

❤🤍💙 all your videos mate👍

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Agree in general All of them except for this one Unfortunately this one is wrong and misleading pushing a certain agenda.

Most schollars have agreed he was asian .

@maestoso47

7 ай бұрын

Ancient Greeks kn.ew of South Asia so he could have been associated with that region.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

No. This is false. He was associated with Africa.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​​@@korey15Nope. IN the original source from Hellenic culture. The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia is to the East. From where the sun rises connecting it to Eos the diety and personification of the dawn. Homer locates it across Cyprus next to the Arameans around Sidon. Africa is South. Herodotus would later use the Hellenic word Aethiopia to indicate a specific race and unknown Landscape South of Egypt and Libya. Not as a kingdom. Later Romans would reimagine romanticize and rationalize the story to bring it closer to reality according from there view point by mixing together Homer's Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia in mythology with Herodotus Real Geographical Term from history. Now you know glad I could help.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

@@user-bg1bm2cw6j Memnon was indeed Black African. Here’s my argument. Eos, the Goddess of Dawn (Memnon’s mother), and the Connection to the Sun: •In Greek mythology, Eos (Memnon’s mother) is revered as the goddess of dawn, representing the rising sun and the light it brings to the world. •Eos's association with the sun also suggests a connection to regions where sunlight is particularly intense, symbolizing power, vitality, and divine illumination. Africa, in the mind of the Greeks obviously represents a place where the sun is most powerful, etymology of the word “Ethiopian” proves this.. Memnon AND his brother are associated with the Ethiopia in AFRICA, not the one in the East, or India. But I’ll come back to this later. •This association, however, implies that Eos's offspring, including Memnon, should be depicted with darker skin due to their proximity to the radiant light of their divine mother AND the location they’re associated with. The Nile Valley Interpretation of "Ethiopian" in Ancient Greek Terminology: •In ancient Greek terminology, the term "Ethiopian" was commonly used to refer to people with EXTREMELY dark skin, particularly those in Africa. But it was also a culture and country in the mind of the Greeks most commonly associated with the land south of Egypt. Eastern Ethiopia (southern India) did exist in the minds of the ancient Greeks, but as the secondary designation. When hearing Ethiopian or Ethiopia, they thought of Africa first, primarily due to proximity. •The etymology of "Ethiopian" suggests a reference to extremely dark skin, with "ethio" meaning "burnt" and "opian" meaning "face" or "appearance." Their burnt faces can be interpreted as being a result of being next to the goddess Eos. Ethiopians were considered to be favored by the gods, the FIRST to worship the gods, and to be the most blameless of all ancient men. The Greeks held Ethiopians in high regard this way and were VERY familiar with them, this is probably why they are included in the story of The Iliad AND why Memnon is so favored in the story. •Therefore, Memnon's identification as an "Ethiopian" by ancient Greek and Roman writers indicate his connection to regions where people had darker skin, such as ancient Egypt, Nubia or Kush. But further reading narrows it down to Nubia / Kush specifically.. I’ll explain. Association with Ancient Ethiopia (Nubia/Kush): •Ancient Ethiopia, often equated with regions like Nubia or Kush, was known for its proximity to Egypt and its rich cultural heritage. •Memnon's association with Ethiopia suggests a link to this ancient African kingdom, known for its advanced civilization, monumental architecture, and historical significance. Stories revolving around Memnon and his brother Emathion’s Ethiopia are centered around the Nile River, this is how we KNOW this Ethiopia wasn’t India. But Africa. For instance “Herakles had to fight Emathion, who came across the *VALLEY OF THE NILE* on his way to steal the golden apples of the Hesperis, and killed him and gave his kingdom to Memnon.” So we know Memnon inherited his land from his brother who lost it after being killed by Herakles, the Nile Valley in AFRICA is integral to this story. Not Asia or India. •Moreover, the intermingling of Nubian and Egyptian cultures, including royal intermarriages, further supports Memnon's potential African roots and his connection to the land of ancient Ethiopia. Association with the Egypt’s Colossi of Memnon: •The Colossi of Memnon, monumental statues located in modern-day Egypt, have been associated with the mythological figure of Memnon since antiquity, linking him to the region of ancient Egypt. Why would they name / associate statues in the African Nile Valley after an Indian king?… doesn’t make sense really. •This connection suggests that Memnon's Ethiopia was likely located in Africa, close to upper Egypt and aligning with the ancient Nubian or Kushite regions known for their historical ties to Egypt and their prominent African civilizations. Archaeological and Historical Evidence of African Lineage: •Archaeological findings and historical records indicate significant cultural exchanges and interactions between ancient Egypt and neighboring African kingdoms like Nubia and Kush. This is why the colossi of Memnon are linked to the king, even though he is said to be Ethiopian. And in some versions of the story, Memnon is the king of Egypt AND Ethiopia. •Evidence of trade, diplomacy, and cultural diffusion between these regions supports the notion that Memnon, as a mythical figure associated with both Egypt and Ethiopia, likely had African lineage or cultural connections. •Furthermore, depictions of Memnon in ancient GREEK AND ROMAN art and literature may offer visual and textual clues hinting at his African heritage, such as distinctive physical features or cultural attributes associated with African peoples of antiquity. We have vases, statues, and paintings depicting Memnon as Black. Homer, and the ancient Greeks for that matter were not racist, xenophobic maybe. But they didn’t view race the way we do. They respected other cultures and didn’t mind including them into the story. Referring to Memnon as Ethiopian, or the king of Ethiopians, along with the fact that his divine mother was a goddess of the sun, would automatically make Memnon a Black man in the minds of ancient Greek readers. The same way describing Achilles as having golden hair would make him Caucasian in the minds of readers today. Stop trying to steal history to fit your agenda. lol Mr “We waz Ethiopians”! the Ethiopia mentioned in the Iliad was 100% in Africa, and Memnon was a Black African. Period. Thank you for coming. To my Ted talk.

The story of memnon doesn't go as told on here!? His mother never beg Zeus for nothing and Zeus never gave Memnon anything out of pity

The Trojan war was a world war

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Not exactly. It's more as a civil war.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Every kingdom is a Hellenic civilization They all shared the same culture. Now you know. Glad I could help.

@OrphicPolytheist

4 ай бұрын

World War Zero

I would just deal with him by firing arrows off horseback like every nomadic tribe did😅

Live these stourws

Hee hee Memnon vs Achiles

Thanks for the video

Well, what this does not say is, Zeus interfered in the battle so, Troy would fall. If he never did. Achillies would have never defeated Memnon as we know😅.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

3 ай бұрын

No he did not. Stop making things up. Memnon is a great warrior but Achilles proved to be better. Plus Memnon is NOT described as a black Nubian African character in Hellenic mythology. The Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa. Memnon is NOT reffered as a black African king.

🙄

@AbrahamLincoln4

7 ай бұрын

what

Memnon and Eos are NOT described as a black African characters in Hellenic mythology. The Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

Fake news. He was Black African. The colossi of Memnon are in AFRICA. SOURCES: Roman era sources are clear: Memnon was black-skinned. Virgil uses the single adjective ‘black’ to denote Memnon (‘nigri Memnonis arma’, Aeneid, I.489), as do Seneca, Ovid and other authors. - source (F. M. Snowden, Blacks in Antiquity: Ethiopians in the Greco-Roman World, Cambridge MA, 1970, pp. 153, 309.)Footnote Philostratus (third-century AD) was explicit: in describing an imagined painting of Memnon’s corpse being laid out for mourning, he discusses the exact black tone of Memnon’s skin. - source ( Philostratus, Imagines, transl. A. Fairbank, London, 1931, pp. 29-31. For Philostratus’s description, see Rosenmeyer, Language of Ruins(n. 4 above), pp. 12-14 (not mentioning skin colour).Footnote And when Ovid (Metamorphoses, XIII), narrating the transformation of Memnon’s ashes into birds, describes the black smoke and the black ashes turning into the dark-plumed birds called Memnonides (ruffs), the implication is clear.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​​@@korey15 The Colossi of Memnon have nothing to do with Memnon. FACTS. Educate yourself. Read a book. Travel the world. Do better. Romans reimagined romanticized and rationalized Hellenic myths to bring them up to fit there perspective of the world. In Hellenic mythology and culture from where Memnon originates from, he is NOT described or depicted as a black Nubian African character. It's clear You are really desperate to be recognised. Crying out for some attention. It's Sad, Weak and Pathetic. Embarrassing.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​@@korey15The Colossi of Memnon have nothing to do with Memnon. FACTS. Educate yourself. Read a book. Travel the world. Do better.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​@@korey15Romans reimagined romanticized and rationalized Hellenic myths to bring them up to fit there perspective of the world. In Hellenic mythology and culture from where Memnon originates from, he is NOT described or depicted as a black Nubian African character.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

​@@korey15 It's clear You are really desperate to be recognised. Crying out for some attention.

yes a black soilder that wear Greek like armour

@user-hq3yv3hy7j

7 ай бұрын

What, ?? Your not making sense.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Memnon is NOT described or depicted being a Nubian Sub Saharan African character in Hellenic mythology.

@korey15

2 ай бұрын

@@VikingElfyes he was. Do your research. You are obsessed with race lol

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

I'm not the one Blackwashing Hellenic culture. I suggest you reflect upon yourself on that. Memnon is NOT described or depicted as a black Nubian African character in Hellenic mythology and culture from where he originated from. Do some research.​@@korey15

@lorenzoreynolds2512

Ай бұрын

​@@korey15facts

Benjamin Franklin 1751 Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. Either old Benny F is absolutely insane or there has been massive genocide committed across europe in the last 300 years to shape it in what it looks like today.

@user-ho9ov8ug2t

21 күн бұрын

Swarthy does not mean African. What you said has nothing to do with Memnon. And there was no massive genocide 300 years ago the way you are trying to push. That's a horrible terrible and ridiculous thing to say.

Hello

Anyone else think the demigods from these stories were the Nephilim or their descendants.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Nope only you.

@Dahaka-rd6tw

7 ай бұрын

We are NOT doingt this! It would only bring cringe. Trust me, I have seen biblical comment going out from out from control too many times

Kangs on kangs on kangs

@Supreme0757

7 ай бұрын

?

@AbrahamLincoln4

7 ай бұрын

Memnon was actually described as black tho.

@jarlborg1531

7 ай бұрын

@@AbrahamLincoln4 He's not in the Iliad and Homer only mentions him once in the Odyssey. Later writers just took the name and made up whatever they wanted.

@AbrahamLincoln4

7 ай бұрын

@@jarlborg1531 Didn't he say he was from Ethiopia? ancient vases also depicted him as black.

@dariusalexandru9536

7 ай бұрын

@@AbrahamLincoln4 Ethiopia didn t exists at that time

how much did blackrock pay you?

Memnon was the son of the Trojan Tithonus and the Greek goddess Eos: he was not black.

@maestoso47

7 ай бұрын

He could very well be.

@ecurewitz

7 ай бұрын

He’s Ethiopian. He’s Black

@xo-1320

7 ай бұрын

​@@ecurewitzno that seems to be a mistake of translation bought on by his physical description which matched both Indian and Ethiopian but given his father... yeah he was Indian.

@eelchiong6709

7 ай бұрын

No DNA tests yet. You have to take the mother's word as to who is the father

@user-hq3yv3hy7j

7 ай бұрын

​​@@maestoso47in your fantasy world and imagination yes. Not in Hellenic mythology and culture from where he originates from.

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Memnon, was indeed Black African. Eos, the Goddess of Dawn (Memnon’s mother), and the Connection to the Sun: •In Greek mythology, Eos (Memnon’s mother) is revered as the goddess of dawn, representing the rising sun and the light it brings to the world. •Eos's association with the sun also suggests a connection to regions where sunlight is particularly intense, symbolizing power, vitality, and divine illumination. Africa, in the mind of the Greeks obviously represents a place where the sun is most powerful, etymology of the word “Ethiopian” proves this.. Memnon AND his brother are associated with the Ethiopia in AFRICA, not the one in the East, or India. But I’ll come back to this later. •This association, however, implies that Eos's offspring, including Memnon, should be depicted with darker skin due to their proximity to the radiant light of their divine mother AND the location they’re associated with. The Nile Valley Interpretation of "Ethiopian" in Ancient Greek Terminology: •In ancient Greek terminology, the term "Ethiopian" was commonly used to refer to people with EXTREMELY dark skin, particularly those in Africa. But it was also a culture and country in the mind of the Greeks most commonly associated with the land south of Egypt. Eastern Ethiopia (southern India) did exist in the minds of the ancient Greeks, but as the secondary designation. When hearing Ethiopian or Ethiopia, they thought of Africa first, primarily due to proximity. •The etymology of "Ethiopian" suggests a reference to extremely dark skin, with "ethio" meaning "burnt" and "opian" meaning "face" or "appearance." Their burnt faces can be interpreted as being a result of being next to the goddess Eos. Ethiopians were considered to be favored by the gods, the FIRST to worship the gods, and to be the most blameless of all ancient men. The Greeks held Ethiopians in high regard this way and were VERY familiar with them, this is probably why they are included in the story of The Iliad AND why Memnon is so favored in the story. •Therefore, Memnon's identification as an "Ethiopian" by ancient Greek and Roman writers indicate his connection to regions where people had darker skin, such as ancient Egypt, Nubia or Kush. But further reading narrows it down to Nubia / Kush specifically.. I’ll explain. Association with Ancient Ethiopia (Nubia/Kush): •Ancient Ethiopia, often equated with regions like Nubia or Kush, was known for its proximity to Egypt and its rich cultural heritage. •Memnon's association with Ethiopia suggests a link to this ancient African kingdom, known for its advanced civilization, monumental architecture, and historical significance. Stories revolving around Memnon and his brother Emathion’s Ethiopia are centered around the Nile River, this is how we KNOW this Ethiopia wasn’t India. But Africa. For instance “Herakles had to fight Emathion, who came across the *VALLEY OF THE NILE* on his way to steal the golden apples of the Hesperis, and killed him and gave his kingdom to Memnon.” So we know Memnon inherited his land from his brother who lost it after being killed by Herakles, the Nile Valley in AFRICA is integral to this story. Not Asia or India. •Moreover, the intermingling of Nubian and Egyptian cultures, including royal intermarriages, further supports Memnon's potential African roots and his connection to the land of ancient Ethiopia. Association with the Egypt’s Colossi of Memnon: •The Colossi of Memnon, monumental statues located in modern-day Egypt, have been associated with the mythological figure of Memnon since antiquity, linking him to the region of ancient Egypt. Why would they name / associate statues in the African Nile Valley after an Indian king?… doesn’t make sense really. •This connection suggests that Memnon's Ethiopia was likely located in Africa, close to upper Egypt and aligning with the ancient Nubian or Kushite regions known for their historical ties to Egypt and their prominent African civilizations. Archaeological and Historical Evidence of African Lineage: •Archaeological findings and historical records indicate significant cultural exchanges and interactions between ancient Egypt and neighboring African kingdoms like Nubia and Kush. This is why the colossi of Memnon are linked to the king, even though he is said to be Ethiopian. And in some versions of the story, Memnon is the king of Egypt AND Ethiopia. •Evidence of trade, diplomacy, and cultural diffusion between these regions supports the notion that Memnon, as a mythical figure associated with both Egypt and Ethiopia, likely had African lineage or cultural connections. •Furthermore, depictions of Memnon in ancient GREEK AND ROMAN art and literature may offer visual and textual clues hinting at his African heritage, such as distinctive physical features or cultural attributes associated with African peoples of antiquity. We have vases, statues, and paintings depicting Memnon as Black. Homer, and the ancient Greeks for that matter were not racist, xenophobic maybe. But they didn’t view race the way we do. They respected other cultures and didn’t mind including them into the story. Referring to Memnon as Ethiopian, or the king of Ethiopians, along with the fact that his divine mother was a goddess of the sun, would automatically make Memnon a Black man in the minds of ancient Greek readers. The same way describing Achilles as having golden hair would make him Caucasian in the minds of readers today. Stop trying to steal history to fit your agenda. lol Mr “We waz Ethiopians”! the Ethiopia mentioned in the Iliad was 100% in Africa, and Memnon was a Black African. Period. Thank you for coming. To my Ted talk.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

Again to prove you wrong. There are no statues of Memnon in existence. Look up Memnon and Eos. He surly doesn't look African.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

Again because it's clear you have no knowledge of Hellenic culture nor have you read the Epic Poems. The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia is related to Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon. A diety and personification of the dawn. The sun rises from the East not from the south. Educate yourself.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

I'm amazed how ignorent and confused you are. To get something straight it's clear you have not read the Iliad. You do realize that all ancient Hellenic artwork of Memnon depictes him as a Hellen.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

2 ай бұрын

To get something straight it's clear you have not read the Iliad. You do realize that all ancient Hellenic artwork of Memnon depictes him as a Hellen. Right.??! Not as an African.

@user-bg1bm2cw6j

Ай бұрын

Thanks for agreeing with me. Like you said. By today's standards people think that the kingdom of Aethiopia is what we know today as Ethiopia. And by that idea, people tend to believe Memnon or Andromeda are black Africans and that the mythical kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology is referring to a kingdom South of Egypt and Libya. But that is not the case. It's a common mistake.

He would have been born near Tel Aviv. Aethiopia is not the same as Ethiopia

Here's a funny video idea how about you make mythology what if basically the stores in mythology if but what if they took a different turn Like for example the story of Hephaestus trying to sleep with Athena but in that what if he would have gotten her pregnant

we wuz troganz

@kurobeard9467

6 ай бұрын

It must be hard to see that black people were such major players in history that they even get roles in as gods and demi-gods in white mythologies.

how about just warrior.

Why???? Why would you emphasis on something that doesn't exist in Greek mythology??? Memnon is not described being African in the original Greek source. It's like you are trying to push a certain agenda. It really shows from the title and from how many times you say the word "black" or how you pronunciat the word Ethiopian every time you say it. Which again not even the word Africa Exists In the Epic Poems of Hellenic Mythology.

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IN the ancient Hellenic Epic Poems Memnon is NOT described being a Nubian Sub Saharan African warrior. Secondly Memnon is NOT mentioned at All in the Iliad. Where did you get that from?? Homer 9th century BC connects the Mythical Kingdom of Aethiopia to Eos who is a diety and personification of the Dawn. Eos domain is to the East ➡️ where the sun rises and is closer to the land. Eos moves from East to West indicating the movement of the sun. Tithonus is a prince of Troy, brother of Priam King of Troy making Memnon also a prince of Troy. He aided his uncle Priam to defend the lands of his father and protect his bloodline. Two Hellenic parents don't make a African Nubian Sub Saharan baby. Why "black" Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian Sub Saharan African or "black" warrior in Hellenic mythology in the first place. His parents are Tithonus a prince of Troy brother to Priam king of Troy and Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon who LEFT Troy and TRAVELED to the domain of Eos to the East ➡️ with their first born son Emathion. The Mythical kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa. Africa is to the South ⬇️. Priam is Memnon's UNCLE, NOT friend. Again where did you get that from,?? In the Odyssey, Homer talks about Menelaus travels and account's in the Mediterranean Sea locating the mythical kingdom of Aethiopia somewhere across Cyprus next to the Arameans around Sidon connecting the mythical kingdom of Aethiopia to the Mediterranean Sea, also aka. as Oceanus. The lands South of Egypt do NOT come in contact with the Mediterranean Sea. The word Aethiopis is purely a Hellenic word used ONLY by Hellens and it means different things depending were when and how you use it in a sentence. It's not exclusively used for Africans. For example it could mean someone with "dark skin" is a "Aethiopis". Dark skin does NOT mean African features or characteristics. One of Zeus titles is "Aethiops" meaning "the glowing one " Someone who is "taned by the sun" is called "Aethiopian". And lastly by Herodotus as a "Geographical Term" "Aethiopia" to determine a specific race of people and the unknown Landscape in which they lived. The people living there did NOT referred to themselves as Aethiopians. The first time we see the word Aethiopia used as a Geographical Term is in the Classical Age by Herodotus 5th century BC who he determined the Lands South ⬇️ of Egypt and Libya as Aethiopia because of his travels and account's with Nubian Egyptians and Kushites. Not as a kingdom. There was never a kingdom of Aethiopia in Africa. The lands South of Egypt and Libya were NOT called Aethiopia at Homer's time needles to say that the lands South of Egypt and Libya are not even mentioned in the Epic Poems. The Mythical kingdom of Aethiopia does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. The Romans around 50 BC would take the Hellenic stories of legend and would rationalize and romanticize them to give them a more realistic approach according to their perspective of the world and time period. The country we know today as Ethiopia was established in 1270 AD by Yekuno Amlak as the Ethiopian empire. Memnon is NOT mentioned as "black". What does "black" even mean. There is no, or one "black" culture. You are trying to push a certain political agenda by using the term "black". It's kinda of Ridiculous and Unethical. Now you know. Glad I could help.

@ScoobySnacksYum

7 ай бұрын

Ethiopians aren't Nubians. Genetic analysis shows that they have substantial mixed ancestry. That said, many sub Saharan Black Africans also have ancestry from Eurasians who returned to Africa 3,000 years ago. In general, it's silly to make generic comments about the genetics of Black Africans because they are the most genetically diverse humans on planet Earth because they are the oldest humans. Moreover, gods are not human. Why should we expect the genetics of gods, beings that shapeshift, born fully grown from another god's head, can throw lightning, etc. to operate like that of humans? Mythology is fantasy. The authors' interpretation is that the character is a dark-skinned man from Ethiopia. That's their right.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

​​@@ScoobySnacksYum Irrelevant. Memnon is NOT African in general. It's not about genetics it's Hellenic mythology and culture. Ethiopia did NOT exist back then like the country we know today as Ethiopia. Yes it is their right as is mine to correct them. You can believe that Memnon is a blue alien for all I care. I'm asking why and where is it written down that he is. And just helping by giving the real Facts from Hellenic Culture. Plus may I ask you. IF I took Sango or Ananci or Isis or Ra any Egyptian, Yoruba or any African hero/God etc. and interpreted them as blonde Irish people, is it ok??

@sagray75

7 ай бұрын

​@@ScoobySnacksYumYour comment doesn't even make sense as a reply to what he said. He never said Ethiopians were Nubians at all. He said the word aethiopian doesn't refer to modern day Ethiopia or the people of that country. And that based on the Illiad and the Odyssey he couldn't be black because of who his parents were and the areas his parents were from.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

@@ScoobySnacksYum Now you know glad I could help.

@tbphillips9649

Ай бұрын

@@VikingElfyou act like mythologies and cultures can’t talk about other people around this world

A cool story designed to explain certain migrating birds, interesting

Also the myth got wrapped a bit. He is supposed to be Indian not Ethiopian.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

He is neither. His parents are Hellenic the mythology kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology is located South around Sidon.

@locusta-bw2vd

7 ай бұрын

@@VikingElf Sidon. The Levant was part of the Nubian Empire sometime in the Bronze Age. After the Nubians conquered the Egyptian Empire. Oh, and the fact he was written by Greeks doesn't make him hellenic. There are other non Greek characters in greek mythology (Phoenicians, Egyptians, Scythians etc).

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

@@locusta-bw2vd Stop mixing history with mythology. The video is about Memnon and the kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology. Not Egyptian history. The Mythical kingdom of Aethiopia from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with Africa. The Levant has nothing to do with Africa. What you said is irrelevant.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

@@locusta-bw2vd and no you are confused. It's clear you have no idea what Mythology is and it's meaning. In Hellenic Mythology they are all Hellens different Hellenic kingdoms. In Hellenic mythology there are no mention of a different race.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

​​@@locusta-bw2vdplus it doesn't change the fact that his parents are Tithonus a prince of Troy brother to Priam king of Troy and Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon. Two Hellenic parents don't make a African Nubian baby. Memnon is NOT described or depicted being a African Nubian Sub Saharan character in Hellenic mythology and culture.

Dey Wuz Greeks N Sheiiittt

@tbphillips9649

Ай бұрын

Dumb comm

We wuz Demigodz😂

BOW BEFORE THE CANADIAN

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

More like the Jamaican.

If you believe the trash theyve put on Netflix that was half of the Greek fighters including Achilles though?

Memnon wasn't black in Homer works. Aethiopia was in Iliad MYTHICAL land on EAST. So maybe Memnon was Chinese, but he definitely was not black. It was later that Greeks (incorrectly) identified lands in South from Egypt as "Ethiopia".

@tbphillips9649

Ай бұрын

Yes later it was said it’s is in the south of Egypt what means he most likely was black there are no Chinese ppl in Ethiopia and especially during that time

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

Ай бұрын

@@tbphillips9649 I was using hyperbole. My point was - in mythology Ethiopia was mythical land. Ethiopia wasn't linked to any particular area and its inhabitants weren't Africans. It is only later, when Greeks came to knew land south of Egypt, they started indentify it with Ethiopia.

🏀 Washing history w/ ridiculous lies unsubbed

@tbphillips9649

Ай бұрын

Not washing history if literally ancient Greek pp made this story caveman

This is fake

Fake… but ok.

@VikingElf

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately. They did this before. Right now you can clearly see they are pushing a certain agenda. Many are right now really disappointing.

@tbphillips9649

Ай бұрын

Not fake memnon literally was on a Greek vase that predates 550-525bc that ain’t a agenda thats Greek making their stories

We waz spartans n shiet