Why not get a transgender person on your panel for their response?

@RaymondHng

6 жыл бұрын

Such as sensible solution and yet they did not do it.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

Because, no one cares. CIS people are 99.7 %, nobody really cares if your super sensible feelings are hurt (AGAIN). The success does not depend on your opinion.

@RaymondHng

6 жыл бұрын

That percentage is a fabricated figure. 0.000001% of a population of 325,719,178 comes out to just 3 people. The William Institute Study estimates there are 1,397,150 people or 0.58% who identity as transgender. With over 78,000 transgender people in the state of New York and GLAAD headquartered in New York City, they could not even find one to be on the panel?

@furpleyoung1543

6 жыл бұрын

If no one cared there would be no need for this segment of the show to exist in the first place. And if you really don't care you wouldn't be watching it, or spending time out of your day to express your opinions in the comment section.

@furpleyoung1543

6 жыл бұрын

And your point is? You may disagree with that, but how about letting someone actually speak for their own community instead of having cisgender people speak for them.

I am all for opening up roles for all marginalized groups. BUT, I feel while the audition process should be open to all, the part should be given to whomever plays it the best. That's for all roles period. Which means transgender people can also play cis roles if they are the best for the part. Limiting the role a person can play is how Hollywood initially kept marginalized groups out of the their projects, and ultimately the art suffers. We as society need to continue progressing and opening doors for all, but in this process we must be careful that in progressing in one area that it doesn't cause regression in another

@rachelc6164

6 жыл бұрын

I think the “best” person for the role is pretty subjective. There are so many great trans actors. It’s a biopic about a trans man, who even in his obituary was referred to as a “woman who insisted on being called a man” or something to that effect. He was marginalized his whole life. So subjectively, I think the best person for that role has to be someone actually a part of the marginalized group. I personally don’t see how a cis actor could ever be the “best” person for that role. There’s no way for anyone to determine who is ultimately the absolute best person for this role since it’s all opinion. There are probably a lot of people who could give a great performance. So you might as well actually represent the community and cast a trans actor instead of just profiting off a trans man’s story. That’s how I see it at least

@christinajudge3251

6 жыл бұрын

Rachel C I agree that there are a lot of great tran actors who are being underutilized, but my point is not specific to just this movie. If we say that only a trans can play roles like this because of the topic and life experience it is the same as people saying trans can't play cis roles for that same reason. And that is part of the problem and what is keeping trans actors underutilized, by not even considering them for anything other than the obvious. To break the cycle pattern we have to look at the whole not just specific.

@rachelc6164

6 жыл бұрын

Christina Judge My point was that there’s no such thing as an objective “best” person for a certain role, so the argument that we should cast the “best” person regardless of gender identity doesn’t make sense to me. The movie centers around the trans experience, the experience of an oppressed minority. All I’m saying is that if you are writing a movie about an oppressed minority, you should cast someone who is that minority. You would never cast a white man as Martin Luther King without expecting public backlash. In the same vein you shouldn’t cast a cis woman in a story about a historical trans male figure. I have to agree to disagree that saying a cis person can’t play this role is the same as saying a trans person couldn’t play a cis role. As an LGBT person I really don’t think that’s part of why we’re underrepresented. Very few movies specify that a character is cis. They just specify man or woman, and since trans women *are* women, a character that is simply identified as a woman could be played by a cis woman or a trans woman. But if a character is specified as a trans man, it should be played by a trans man. Again, just how I see it as a member of the LGBT community

@christinajudge3251

6 жыл бұрын

Rachel C I respect ur viewpoint, I agree with aspect of it. I just dont want a precident to be set that will be used against further progression in the future. Being a minority myself, I have seen certain stances come back later and be used against us, and I just think people should look at the situation from a broader view sometimes so there is no backsliding later.

Cringed every time he said "a transgender"

@grapefives7762

6 жыл бұрын

The "a" made it said very well

@fredtello

6 жыл бұрын

People who support her removal are misguided. U can't ask for rights while taking away those same rights from other ppl.. I support personal freedoms, to be or do whatever one desires, but I now feel trans ideologies are destructive to those very freedoms...

I am so sick of seeing the same twenty A-list actors in every single movie. There are lots of good actors out there. Give more people a chance.

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

They sell $$$$$$$$$

Jared Leto played a transgender character. No one said sh!t about that. He was supported. Come on people.

@pjlav6304

6 жыл бұрын

sbowesuk ... No. The whole point is, straight cis actor's are being cast as transexual's. Not once has the argument been about the size of the Role? Why would it be? That's ridiculous

@ericaduvall6346

6 жыл бұрын

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/jared-leto-s-best-supporting-actor-oscars-win-sparks-backlash-from-transgender-community-9168770.html

@ericaduvall6346

6 жыл бұрын

There was backlash!

@ncorp2668

6 жыл бұрын

And the series Transparent? Still current, no backlash. Trans women are at the forefront of the backlash against Scarlett, yet trans men have very little coverage or their stories told...They want to attack women, per usual. The Jarrod Leto and various other male actors have gotten little backlash, Scarlet was bullied until dropping the movie all-together. Funny how that double standard works. Not a win for the trans community. She was the big name that gave the movie investments to reach a much wider audience.

@lilianalee8955

6 жыл бұрын

Pj lav no he wasn’t by a lot of people in that community. There are plenty of talented trans people looking for work.

they wanted a big name actress to play the role to bring in big audiences. I don't think it had anything to do with sexism. Also, any men have played transwomen and no one says anything about that. double standards. I think directors and producers should just open up the audition process to the trans community. it was their fault. I think a lot of trans people would have loved to play that role.

Isn't it an actor's job to portray different roles?

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

Yes 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is ridiculous. So now actors should not act 🤣🤣🤣

If the paper had been given to Leonardo DiCaprio everyone would be saying that he is the best and that he will make a great character, I did not see such a scandal with Jared Leto in his interpretation of a transgender that gave him an Oscar, besides they forget that it is the director's decision to choose who is the right person for the role, it is not an imposition of the people, the sexual orientation of the actor is what matters least when acting talent is talent that simple ...

The first guy commenting on transgender roles stuff is totally missing the point. There are not enough roles for transgender people.

Ok ...enough with the guys from America Ninja...what happened to Meghan Kelly the serious journalist...this show blows!

A bunch of cis-gendered people discussing Transgender roles and ignoring the implications of not portraying authentic trans representation.

Great discussion. Megyn is funny.

I enjoy this panel they are smart and funny.

It's all about making money at the box office. Big names bring in money. Not that I agree or disagree.

So when is space jam 2 coming out?

Wonder what these black guys had to say about Ted Danson in black face

Megyn Kelly's show is so interesting Luvv it, Amazing secular topics

That happened to a friend of mine, he gotted into a beating from a gang, and they put a knife trug his neck and he went into a low conciussness state and when the ambuklance members got to get him they calld it like a deceased incident. He was in the morgue and one medicine student check his vitals and discovered he had a pulse and they bring him back.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned about Jared Leto he played as a transgender

This movie was made over a year ago and on cable. Why is this such breaking news!?

Wonderful a group a heterosexuals discussing and offering insight on transgender roles.

There are so many trans actors that would of loved to play tho role. Times have changed and it’s important to change with the times. Just like Autistic actors deserve to play autistic parts...Just like Asian actors deserve to play Asian actors...and so on. I am an actor and as much as I love playing parts “far away from me”, I would NEVER take a part away from actors who are designed to play those parts.

@specialK33616

6 жыл бұрын

Have you watch God's of Egypt, etc are you talking about

@funvampire8243

6 жыл бұрын

BrittKatSlat her character in Ghost in the Shell was not an Asian woman, it was a manufactured cyborg.

@specialK33616

6 жыл бұрын

Fun Vampire you do realize that the character in ghost in the shell was a white female cyborg, the character was never asian to begin with so all the outrage was from uninformed people

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

"There are so many trans actors that would of loved to play tho role." Maybe. The problem is, no one wants to see them. That alone disqualifies them. There is a reason why we watch Scarlett Johansson's movies...

@travisprescott9708

6 жыл бұрын

We are told to not get triggered when a movie changes the race of an established character but this is upsetting people

[EYE ROLL] I'm sure there are cops out there that also actors ... that doesn't mean I don't want an already recognized action hero to play the lead role in the next action cop movie that comes out. #RelaxGuys #Breath

People who support her removal are misguided. U can't ask for rights while taking away those same rights from other ppl.. I support personal freedoms, to be or do whatever one desires, but I now feel trans ideologies are destructive to those very freedoms...

Acting is what it is, acting... Now it's going to get more complicated

It's a shame they had to bring Tom Hanks into the discussion. It really did help a great deal for America to see his wholesome image in a film about the aids epidemic. Had they not cast someone like Tom Hanks, 'Philadelphia' wouldnt have had the impact it did... *25* *years* *ago* . Change with the passage of time appears to be a foreign concept with these people.

She's an actress for God's sake why backlash

This is ridiculous. So now actors should not act in different roles to their realities 🤣🤣🤣

Let’s see if that black guy changes his tune when a white person plays a historical black figure.

Can't wait for a Rosa Parks biopic starring Scarlett Johansson as Rosa Parks. Hope black folks don't mind, in the same way these cis-people tell trans people it's ok for them to play trans roles, because "it's acting".

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

She could do that, but that is something physical and would not look very authentic. It would be looking like in " The Nutty Professor". But healthy people can very well simulate mental disorders, like shown in Rain Man, and Forrest Gump.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry, it "not a mental disorder", it is just for fun mentioned in the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders " (DSM V), because obviously everything is fine.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

LoL. They just renamed it from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria" to reduce stigmatization, but it is still handled in the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of MENTAL DISORDERS". And who make's the diagnosis? Oh yes, a psychatrist! It does not matter how hard they try to give it a different name, you know how it is handled in reality, as a mental disorder.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

They don't fix the mental disorder, but the symptoms. Like they do with AIDS...

@silvervega

6 жыл бұрын

White woman as black? xD It is like a man trying to be a woman, Oh! wait....

what annoys me is... and i don't want to offend anyone. what are people wanting then are they saying that just because a person is trans they are better actors and should just be given the role? only asking because Scarlett has proven she can tackle many different kinds of roles and if she was the strongest individual for the role isn't it only right she gets it? playing a different role and taking on someone else's narrative is what films. tv and plays is all about. does this mean from now all LGBT roles can only be offered to LGBT people what about a 30 year old playing a 20 year old... an irish man playing american an american being a british person. i just worry that soon enough no matter what we say or do....someone will be offended! I've been reading so much hate towards scarlet when all she has been is a supporter go the LGBT community and by someone with her platform could raise so much awareness for the community.

@iNepzPlays

6 жыл бұрын

JuiceMyRandomness noone replied cuz you're right bro nice

@kaszandraperez8637

6 жыл бұрын

I personally would suggest the trans and whoever else community watch Her in this movie and instead of shunning her, look at the kind of talent Hollywood is looking for and why they may have cast her. But also of course, it may have nothing to do with talent (i personally didnt enjoy her last film acting). It simply may be that through connections, her looks, etc., she was cast but what it all comes down to is that it's her time to shine and she deserves it so embrace that with her ffs.

@ethangonzales6804

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I am transgender ftm and i do understand that she is a good actress but the whole film is based around a ftm transgender person and do you really believe the best person to step into those shoes is a cis person? No , it's not. For trans actors, trans roles aren't different from who they really are and they can much better perform it. It also is an opportunity to talk about trans rights and issues in interviews which i doubt Scarlett will do and even if she does it's not her story and she can't connect or relate to it at all. We need someone who doesn't just act the role but will understand it and explain why it's so important. It's based on transgender people so why is there not a transgender person playing it?

@JessikaTPQ

6 жыл бұрын

Preach!

@fredtello

6 жыл бұрын

People who support her removal are misguided. U can't ask for rights while taking away those same rights from other ppl.. I support personal freedoms, to be or do whatever one desires, but I now feel trans ideologies are destructive to those very freedoms...

jesus! no wonder this show is in the tank.

I don't understand why people can't get the fact that it isn't REAL its just a role. Acting is ACTING! Leave her alone and let her do her job. These movies are here to entertain not change the world. Christ, the movie is also a parody come on ya'll.

okay with the movie white chicks its different I mean they weren't the girls the whole time its not like they were play like the were biological white females it was private mission they did because the girls had scars

I might be okay with it if it was played respectfully but the director also cast her an asian woman soooo

The transgender community stays attacking women. What about the show Transparent? What about the various transgender roles men have played? For ONCE, the media is actually acknowledging female to male transgender folks, and the blacklash being heard is by male to female transgender folks, rather than the group that is being referenced in the movie. This is just an excuse for male to female transgender people to hate on women AGAIN.

@sarahkoob1156

6 жыл бұрын

N Corp not all of us hate on cis women most of us feel that we should be seen as women like cis women are maybe a little resentful but I don't hate cis women I dislike society for not allowing us to have the same opportunities in the work place and dating and life as you gals

@fredtello

6 жыл бұрын

People who support her removal are misguided. U can't ask for rights while taking away those same rights from other ppl (scarlet).. I support personal freedoms, to be or do whatever one desires, but I now feel trans ideologies are destructive to those very freedoms...

@ncorp2668

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Koob, if you've lived anywhere in this world, you'll know that women DON'T have equal opportunities in the work place, dating and life in general that male-born people do. It's only been talked about it for the last thousand years or so, with little advancement. Women are resentful that a group of people, no matter how you identify, is actively trying to redefine their own identity (by calling them cis-women, for starters) to appease the other group (trans women. That's oppressive. Trans women activists aren't out there advocating against work place discrimination, equal pay, objectification, police brutality, etc like other liberation movements, instead they focus all of their attention to women - intimidating women's health organizations that offer cervical cancer screenings to change their language from "women" to "people with a cervix", bullying organizations that give access to tampons and pads to low-income women to change their language from "women" to "menstrators", going after various Planned Parenthood chapters to not make their organizations about "women with vaginas", bullying and physically blocking and threatening women's meetings from happening, as well as the women in attendance, because they were critical gender....the list goes on and on. This is sexism, and it is definitely aimed at women by trans women.

Who knows how the casting process went? Perhaps there were some trans actors that auditioned and they weren't talented enough. Isn't acting about talent?

Back in the old days women weren't allowed to act, so men took all the feminine roles.

It is acting, bold and the beautiful put a beautiful black woman acting as a transgender

So trans men people want to be treated like real men and trans women like real women but a real woman can't play a trans ? Hypocrisy

A trans to interpret a trans lol, what a joke !!!! If people only knew .....

Do people realize that she was not a trans male? She was a butch lesbian who dressed up as a man and always had an androgynous cloting style. (Read this article: newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/thedigs/2014/02/17/the-complex-and-tough-dante-tex-gill/ ). This is just rewriting the complex story of a butch lesbian woman and just disgracefully erasing them from history. All and all, I also agree that transgender actors/actresses should get more chances in Hollywood and should be given the same chances as cisgender actors. Of course, if they are right for the part, still need to have the skills. But in this case, it is just wrong do plainfully attack this project for that reason. Because, like I said, its a story about a butch androgynous lesbian woman who dressed up like a man.

Megyn pick a different topic FFS

There are not enough Trans leads because nobody seeks any out. Give a Trans person a Chance to show they can do it.

All she has to do is say she identifies as a man. Boom shes transgender. If it works for bruce it should work for scarlett as well.

@h.debeau7995

6 жыл бұрын

I identify as Farrah Fawcett, thanks

@titanblooded6222

6 жыл бұрын

Mac-Attack what does it mean to you? But the nature of having a desire to be a different gender than you have been previously. Unless you're a telepath you can't know what Scarlett has going on in her head. She very well could be transgender, there is absolutely no way to prove she isn't.

I'm still miffed the the non jewish Charlton Heston played the jew moses. Outrageous.

Wow listen to these guys. This is why the mainstream media sucks.

@andrear7181

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. But you know what, I love to see every now and then how progressives like Scarlett Johansson have to deal with the consequences of the insane identity politics idelology they promote.

exactly, the attention the movie will get. that is a good thing for that comunity isn't? give her a breake, she's an excelent actor

wall megan is very unappealing to the eyes. i wont be watching

Scarlet is a good actor, people need to stop being so sensitive just because she might play the role of a transgender, I think it's stupid just acting, actors have pretend being different colors

GitS was a critical and financial flop. The argument or belief that casting scar Jo in a film automatically means it will perform well amidst controversy, has already been debunked.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

That was because the movie sucked. Would it have been more successful, if they would have made the exact same movie with an asian actress? I doubt that.

@stanleycoleman

6 жыл бұрын

La Fleur- the point isn't whether or not the movie would or could have been successful with a different actress. The point is that the studio executives themselves admitted that the controversy was a major factor in why it flopped, which meant that scar jo was a liability and not an asset; and therefore unjustified in the many chances and huge paychecks that they throw at her without more careful consideration.

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

Mac-Attack They know it. That is the reason why they never casted an asian actress for the role. How many japanese movies, played by japanese actors are super successful in western theatres? You can complain, that they should have casted an asian girl, but the reality is, we don't watch it, that is why they won't cast an asian girl. The movie sucked, because there was never a need for a real life movie.

Please! Trans Role 🤔 Trans actors

@lafleur3936

6 жыл бұрын

So, no movies about transgenders!