Could you compare the 2008 reissue/remaster with the 2004 remix or with the original or with both? I've been able to hear the 2008 reissue, and it is definately better than the 2004 remix. It basically has the energy/dynamacy of the original taken up a notch, which is how a remaster should be. The depth too of the production is also taken to a new level, with more power in the drums, and guitar/bass tones, mixed with the original vocals. Instead of sounded processed or flat/sterile, it sounds likes it has depth. Would highly recommend it.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

you're talking about the vinyl release right? sorry, I don't include those when I'm comparing.

@winterunterseher8937

4 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Yeah I was. That's ok though. Just wanted to know.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@winterunterseher8937 here's the reason: the audio to digital equipment needed to convert the signal has influence on the tone. I don't have a record player and even if I did, the A to D equipment needed for it would influence the tone, compared to someone else who may just be listening directly to the vinyl. I don't want to misrepresent the sound of the album and that's why I avoid this. Good question thought, thanks for this, I pinned it for others who may read this.

@winterunterseher8937

4 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Thank you! Yeah I understand, you want to have the fairest comparison you can right? You definately want to have the most accurate sound you can. I myself as well, don't have a record player either, but I would like to one day. I mostly listen to vinyl versions (though I also mostly listen to digital/streamed versions) through vinyl rip files online, when I'm curious as to hoe something sounds in vinyl and if it's different from the version I'm so used to hearing. Sometimes the quality on the vinyl rips can be hit or miss, but I found some good ones. But nonetheless, thanks for the response!

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@winterunterseher8937 thank you for understanding. Other people have told me that vinyls (not just Megadeth) sound much better than any of the digital releases, so I too am curious. But to be honest, I am afraid I may like the vinyls better. Then I would have to go out and buy all of these CDs on vinyl and it would be quite expensive!

The backing vocals in the remastered are hilarious lmao

All I have to say is, what happened to the Take No Prisoners bass break in the remaster is criminal.

@DavidPiniella

Жыл бұрын

The rubber band solo? The only explanation is Mustaine was really pissed at Jr

@shadowgs_5077

Жыл бұрын

Which part?

@agrofindastation

Жыл бұрын

@shadowgs_5077 after rhe first verse there is a bass break. Listen to the original, then find the remaster. Terrible

Guitars sound thinner on the 1990 version, but they sit better in the mix and suit the Megadeth sound / song writing style. Really not a fan of these Megadeth remixes / remasters.

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

I totally get what you are saying. Exodus sounding guitars would never work for this album!

I've actually never heard the original album. The remix would have been pretty new when I started getting getting into this stuff so it was by far the most easily available version. Hearing comparisons, I do think the original has a better mix, everything isn't so crammed together. The remix didn't stop me from falling in love with this album, though.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

well said

@estetty

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I am on the same boat.

@1008md

3 жыл бұрын

I am old enough to have enjoyed the original mixes however didn’t get into them until the remastered came out

It's funny how their best album has the worst remix of them all and also quite sad that the most available version is the remix.

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

interesting point. any future comparison albums you'd like to see?

@flippy7035

5 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm i dunno, have you done Countdown?

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

@@flippy7035 not yet, but I will, thanks!

@flippy7035

5 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm no probs. An unpopular opinion i have is that i think every version of this album are flawed. The original sounds less bland but the mix favors highs and lows a little too much compared to the mids. The guitars and snare are kinda buried. The remix improves on that, but sounds kinda bland, buries the kick-drums, and the snare sounds kinda St. Anger-y. The 20th anniversary remaster is basically an earraped version of the original.

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

@@flippy7035 I like the fact that you give credit to at least some aspects of the remix/remasters even though you generally don't like them. Objective, I like it!

The best thing the remaster does is make it sound cleaner which isn't a bad thing at all but they added too much reverb especially on the drums which makes it sound too different

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

not sure if I am hearing reverb on the remixed version, but you are right, it does sound quite different from the original

@BigElectricBull1981

Жыл бұрын

The remaster makes the overall mix sound better and more full. But the parts that were changed fucking ruin it for me completely!!!!! Hangar 18 still sounds good though..............

I'd say I prefer the guitars in the 1990 remix, they sound crispier and brighter, a bit muffled in the 2004 version. The drums and bass on the other hand pop much more in the 2004 remix, they are so punchy and lively.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

don't you want something that's in between of these two? (^_^)

I think I prefer the snare over all from the 2004.. it's way brighter and cuts right through, it even further shows off how good Nick was

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

so does that snare alone make you prefer the 2004 version (^_^)?

@HitTheSnake

4 жыл бұрын

Helm of the Anti-lemon not sure... the mixes seem to sit together better in the original... but that snare is just really awesome! Especially on like Hanger 18, Tornado and Holy Wars.... there is like a tiny bit of reverb on it as well in places that gives it great ambience

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@HitTheSnake don't you wish you can take that snare and put it in to the original mix? (^_^)

The remixes COMPLETELY removed the characters of the original releases. I wished they never did this...On SPOTIFY or Google Play Music, the original mixes aren't there anymore. It's just sad.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

that is sad. they should at least have both.

@xeinem2345

4 жыл бұрын

There are original mixes on Spotify. They are just titled without the 'Remastered 2004'

@nick8052

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think Americans get the original mixes on streaming. I have both where I am.

@T4REK

3 жыл бұрын

@@xeinem2345 indeed, the originals are on Spotify but you won't find it the artists page, you must search for them manually

@IdontKnow-jt2oz

3 жыл бұрын

Only the original Youthanasia is still on Spotify out of the 80s-90s stuff

The original is so much better it's not even funny.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

what do you like better about it?

@andreacolombo7896

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm The original has a more natural, lifelike sound with punchy drums, and very good snare and cymbals sound. The remix feels bloated/congested, for want of a better word, with no punch in the drums and, quite frankly, the snare sounds like a shoe box. Cymbal reverb is also gone :-\

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreacolombo7896 that's really well-thought answer! I love it

Original all the way, dude! You can't beat that original sound, plus the original vocals on Take No Prisoners totally annihilates the re-recorded vocals. And, the original vocal takes for Five Magics and Lucretia are much better than the alternative takes used on the remixed & remastered version. Btw, you have a typo in the description, you've typed 1994 instead of 1990.

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

thanks brother, that's what i get for doing this on 4 hours of sleep!

@nathanpopinski5929

5 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm No problem, dude.

@braya7

2 жыл бұрын

Que otros discos de Megadeth fueron re grabadas las voces y tomas?

@commrecords1

2 жыл бұрын

@@braya7 ➤ Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? ➤ So Far, So Good... So What! ➤ Countdown to Extinction

Fantastic comparison, thanks.

The original mix sounds like it's been done by an expert sound engineer who really knows his shit. The remix/remaster sounds like a fan remix.

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

(^_^)

I am so glad I got my original 1990 copy of this album way back before it became so hard to find. Only the 2004 version seems to be the most readily available now. Its almost as if Dave is trying to literally erase and re-write history with these remasters. I never understood why though because there is no beating that original mix.

@SK-qu4wo

4 жыл бұрын

@Bryan Mack In some parts of this "remaster" I could swear it sounds like Dave sat in the studio and RE-RECORDED some of the original vocals 😂

@MosoKaiser

3 жыл бұрын

@@SK-qu4wo That's because *he did.* A portion of the original tapes had deteriorated or had gone missing so Mustaine had to use alternate takes or straight-up re-record bits.

@SabboidJEM

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad too that I still have all the original albums. Gonna have to do some WAV backup files, just in case . . .

An interesting detail of the 2004 remix/remaster is that it has several re-recorded guitar tracks and vocals. In the notes of the 2004 Mustaine says the original vocal tracks for Take No Prisoners, Five Magics and other 2 songs were missing.

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

Didn't he re-record his vocals also?

@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu

Жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm he re-recorded the vocals only in some tracks, also used alternate vocal takes from the original sessions,as far as I know

@eggznbakeyy

Жыл бұрын

it just boggles my head, though, that dave knew fair and well he was missing these vocal tracks. and instead of saying “well i can’t preserve it the way it was, i probably shouldn’t tamper with it”, he thought it was a great idea to RE RECORD and use ALTERNATE TAKES. who knows what he was thinking when he remixed this, but i still find it hard to believe that he was all for this and thought this was for the betterment of the album. he literally changed something that already sounded one way, any normal person would agree that changing the already known sound would backfire

@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu

Жыл бұрын

@@eggznbakeyy I have the same opinion about it. You shouldn't mess with perfection, or at least you shouldn't mess with something that is loved by millions of people. There could be several reasons for Dave to do this, from his massive ego to something related to the record company (megadeth changed from Capitol records to Sanctuary) or even the royalties from the songs. What I dislike the most is that Dave was allowing to do revisionism with the music, taking the original mixes out of the market and selling only this 2004 remixes/remasters.

@eggznbakeyy

Жыл бұрын

@@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu exactly what i was thinking. the original versions have systematically been replaced by the remixed versions and it’s disgusting. it makes being a megadeth collector that much more tedious and difficult. i guess we’ll never know but thankfully, the original versions have been added back to streaming services so i think dave got the point from the fan backlash. original mixes remain superior 🤘

Original easily. I really don't like the snare sound or re-recorded vocals on the remix at all. Sucks that Spotify had the original up for awhile then took it down.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching and the comment.

@SnaKeEXx

4 жыл бұрын

What ? It’s still up for me open.spotify.com/album/4e6ML9RBhDyyKTaTwbiRZv?si=gvjIgNq-T_69bW47ZMidFA

@wintercoffeemedia5214

4 жыл бұрын

@@SnaKeEXx You should listen them with TIDAL, they have the master versions of some of the albums (which sounds sincerely amazing) and the original and remasters of every one, except for Risk, they only have the remastered ver. only.

@rustinpeace770

3 жыл бұрын

The original is still up for me.

@damageinc81292

3 жыл бұрын

Nope greyed out for me. Went to listen to it once and wasn't in my library anymore

So glad I have the original

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

so i take it that's the one you like better? (^_^)

@ploooop84

4 жыл бұрын

Helm of the Anti-lemon no the 2042 one is better

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@ploooop84 can' t wait for it!

I love this series, I prefer the 1990 release.

I just got the original pressing of this on CD (CDP 79 19352) partly due to watching this video. It is so much easier on the ears than the remaster that's on Spotify atm. There is so much more "space" in the sound without all the compression and I can listen to it loudly without getting a headache!!!

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

that's what I love to hear Michael!

@f3ynman44

3 жыл бұрын

How did you get the original version on CD? I can only find the remaster!

@333deadhead

3 жыл бұрын

@@f3ynman44 Discogs is a great website if you want to find and buy specific versions of CDs, tapes or vinyl. You can go on the website and type in "CDP 79 19352" or also look up the CD name and then narrow your search for the earlier release dates. Good luck!

Originals are perfect. Remastered= re-recorded stuff, lowered bass guitar at some points, alternative takes on any instrument shuffled songs, the drums sometimes brake my ears. The original idea of a remastered álbum is to get some EQ to reach a preetiest sound quality but Dave’s idea was to kill every álbum.

@johnmkmu

3 жыл бұрын

This is a great point. These Megadeth records go WAY beyond “remastering”. Adding/ changing vocals and guitars?? Symphony of D sounds like they added a snare sample !! Complete changes in mixing, not just mastering.

Rust in Peace is a weird one for me as I actually got to know the 2004 remix first and whilst the original mix is overall better It does sound a bit thin in comparison and i miss some of the altered vocals - still I pretty much just listen to the original mix nowadays

You can re-mix certain genre..like Pop, Country or Hip Hop...but not Metal, it just destroys the vibe, what Dave did (if he was the culprit behind this travesty) is unforgivable

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree there. There are a few older albums I am pretty sure that I can remix and make sound better and keep the original vibe(^_^)

I have both and I enjoy both. Each are totally different from one another. I grew up listening to the original. If I had to pick, I would choose 1990...But the remaster comes in thunder loud on my speakers and I love it!

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

You win because you get the best of both worlds

Thanks for making these videos! I watched a bunch today - in your opinion are there ANY remasters that are superior sound quality?

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

superior is a highly subjective word...personally I think that Forbidden's Twist Into Form remaster is better than the original, and Razor's remaster is better for Violent Restitution, but I usually feel like there needs to be a balance between the original and remaster. I talk more about this in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZaEs8uEhpyTn84.html

I was today years old when I realized I may have been listening to the remixed version for years with it incorrectly labelled as original, totally happy with it guess it's not so bad

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

nothing wrong with that!

@mat.b.

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm I feel dirty!

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@mat.b. embrace the filth, it's more metal that way

I heard the remaster first but after getting a vinyl with the original mix I couldn’t go back to the 2004 version. it’s just so inferior to the original. Thanks for making the video.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the comment. what did you like about the original vinyl mix vs. the remaster specifically?

@busterthebear6756

4 жыл бұрын

Helm of the Anti-lemon the redone vocals on the remaster are terrible and the re-recorded guitar parts just sound off to me. Also the backing vocals on holy wars and take no prisoners are weak on the remaster. The original mix just has more clarity and the instruments actually go together instead of just colliding like they do in the remaster.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

well said!

Just picked up the first six Megadeth cd’s for $2 a piece at a bookstore over the weekend. All original versions, no scratches, no broken cases, and they all still had clean artwork! I’ve been looking for them for a few years. Very glad I waited to get lucky eventually instead of buying on ebay, $12 for six cd’s is a lot better than $15 for one!

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

holy...what versions were they??

@peesalad6032

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm I’m not 100% on what years but they are Capitol/Combat labeled on the discs and cases

Still prefer the original, however I do like how they made the drums sound a bit louder and powerful. I also like how they made Junior’s bass less muddy and sharper in the remaster.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

nice observations!

@user-el6lt8fr3x

4 жыл бұрын

Helm of the Anti-lemon thanks man

@ETA555

4 жыл бұрын

What sound eqipment do you have? A lot of people have shitty speakers amps and the sound source always a stupid laptop. No wounder it sounds lacking of range. And the bass sounds muddy in the remaster version. Not the other way around. In "dawn patrol"

@user-el6lt8fr3x

4 жыл бұрын

Jonas Pettersson uh not much. Literally just my phone and headphones. I’m no audio freak so I don’t really have those fancy high tech equipment

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-el6lt8fr3x I find that even listening to really poor recordings on great equipment makes it sound decent.

The original mix is now on Spotify and Apple Music!

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

that's great news!

@e_knees8816

2 жыл бұрын

The original mix on not on Spotify and Apple Music!

@TheGreenDoggoOfWisdom

2 жыл бұрын

@@e_knees8816 Unfortunately they removed it

@RustInPeace1990

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGreenDoggoOfWisdomstill on Apple Music

@klopsi4348

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGreenDoggoOfWisdom its back!

I traded my Copy of the Remix for the Original, I was incredibly happy that day

I like both.. it's no the remix or remaster..16 or 24 bits... it's the brilliant album RUST IN PEACE people!!!!!!

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

you might be the first person to say you like both! congratulations!

Original. By a very large margin.

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

any reason why? I like your analysis so I'm sure other would enjoy hearing about it as well.

@ciaran_g

4 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Like I said in the Countdown to Extinction video. Guitars have too much mid. Snare drum seems to be a completely different snare. I think the bass guitar is a little bit too much on this album, particularly in Hangar 18. I'm not saying the 2004 is bad. I like it on certain songs (the start of Five Magics for example). I think they went overkill in trying to get the drums to match modern metal album standards, as a result of which, everything else needed to be boosted and it just became too much. I like listening to the 2004 version in the car, but if I'm listening on headphones it has to be the original..... And the less said about Take No Prisoners, the better. How they thought that vocal take was good enough is beyond me. Forget about the performance. But the vocals actually clip. Horrendously so. Who was recording that and thought, "good take"?

@metal_helm

4 жыл бұрын

@@ciaran_g you bring up some really valid points. thanks for posting

Fortunately I got original cd Rust in Peace ( new!) on Amazon this year. Original '90 Megadeth albums don't need any remaster.

@dang75790

Жыл бұрын

Hi I know this is a year old! Lol I finally got all 4 original cds again. Nothing better. I'm from 80s when these originally came out.

The remaster bass is like an earthquake this is the reason i listen to the 2004 remaster. That snare! That bass!

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

well said!

Oh wow, I just released the elongated “Shit” in Take No Prisoners towards the end was added in and not on the original, that’s crazy! Considering when I grew up that version was the only one readily available it really shocked me lol. Yeah, don’t even have to write a paragraph about this one, the 1990 mix is better. No Mustaine re recorded vocals, no horrific drum sound. The best version.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

you're not alone in saying that!

@mot0rdeth

2 жыл бұрын

In the demo version it also has that long "shit", but it sounds rougher and better

Wish I saw this video before buying that dumpster remaster. God awful vocals on the second. This album literally brought me to your channel to do quality control.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

I wish you had too! hopefully it will help you somewhere else

I bought the 2004 remixed version of Rust in Peace. I now store my original 1990 print in a safe.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

is it that rare??

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

I just checked there is a 20 dollar version on discogs. very reasonable

Only have the remixed versions of their classic albuns. Buyed them many years ago almost for free. I consider the original versions better, but the remixed aren't that bad as people usually say. Maybe one day I'll find the origina ones almost for free, until then, I´ll be happy with the remix versions.

Original Pros: Heavier and more menacing sound Cons: Volume is quieter (I ripped the original CD in flac format and I can tell) Remaster Pros: Louder guitars, louder bass, and detailed vocals. The 3 demos and My Creation. I like the alternate versions of Lucretia and Take No Prisoners despite the vocals not being the same as the original. Cons: A lot. Bass is louder but it sounds softer, for example, the bass solo in Take No Prisoners. The drums are unbearable in most songs (Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Poison Was The Cure, Dawn Patrol) and take away the aggressiveness of the original. The Five Magics version is not too bad but is just meh. The robotic vocals in Polaris were removed which kinda kills the essence of the original but the song it's still enjoyable.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

actually they are both at the exact same volume. one might appear to be louder than the other based on mid frequencies being boosted, but they definitely the same volume.

The remasters were already really bad but, the fact that Dave felt he had to say “take no shhhhiiiiiieeeeeeetttt” at the end of Take No Prisoners is fucking hilarious.

@metal_helm

4 ай бұрын

So you prefer the originals I take it?

@MegaNorm64

4 ай бұрын

@@metal_helm 100%

@metal_helm

4 ай бұрын

@@MegaNorm64 you're in the majority for sure!

The original relase from 1990 on reckord/vinyl. It can not be better.

I like the soundstage from the 2004 remaster, it doesn't sound so narrow on my headphones. But I prefer the original for pretty much everything else. Rerecording vocals is just wrong, dude.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

well said, so overall you prefer the original?

@debrebeuf8959

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Yea, time to surf eBay.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@debrebeuf8959 good luck, too bad it's not too expensive

The best way I can think of describe the remix of Rust In Peace, is like da Vinci purposefully defacing the Mona Lisa. I really don't know what Megadave was thinking with that one!

@metal_helm

2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure what happened is he didnt' A/B it back and forth. THAT is the problem. I have been working on my own mixes and think, "that sounds good!" then, I go back to the previous one I did a week before, and realize that it does NOT sound good. If you don't have a basis for comparison, it is very easy to fool your brain with repeated plays.

I've only been really getting into Megadeth for the past few months or so and I was seeing everyone raving about how the 2004 remaster sucks. I'm glad I stumbled across this video because now I can finally give my verdict and...I honestly love them both. You can slaughter me all you want in the comments but...yeah. I get that the vocal takes are different on some songs but that was only because the originals got lost. And besides, I honestly like the elongated "shit" at the end of the remaster of Take No Prisoners!

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found value in this video. No judgment here, as in a lot of these comparisons I find pros and cons to both versions, and often wish I had something in between them. Very cool that you just discovered megadeth. Objectively, I think this is their best album. But my favorite is so far so good so what

@RVPMatt123

Жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Oh absolutely, there's pros and cons to everything! I feel like if you combined elements from both masterings, you'd have something perfect. Oh and don't worry, I'd heard some of their songs many times, but I hadn't delved too deep into them. But with The Sick, The Dying...and The Dead coming out, I thought no better time than now to join in!

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

@@RVPMatt123 if you have time, check out this playlist, there's a few MD ones in there! kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmx5pLKQo5jTh5c.html

I can agree with a few others here. The drums and bass on the remaster definitely sound a lot clearer. But the guitar sounds much thicker and edgier in the original. But I don’t like the altered backup vocals in the remastered. I prefer the original on the whole.

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

good analysis. I can see what you mean!

Five Magics is comical to say the least with the 04’ Remaster.. Power Rangers Villain vocals in full effect.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@jaywiggin1575

3 жыл бұрын

Kermit the Frog is what I was thinking when I first heard the Remaster.

@thrash8315

3 жыл бұрын

When I bough it in 2004. My friend and I were listening to it. We were in full-laughter mode at that part. Oh gosh, that entire remix was horrible.

Also I bough his later albums (world needs a hero, system has failed, and endgame. Apparently those have been re mastered. I just think why?

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

i think i'm going to be doing the system has failed pretty soon. i am curious about that one

@1008md

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm such a good album. When this album came out I was only a fan for about 2 years. So many memories attached to that album. I also went to gingantour around this time

Algunas veces siento que me gusta más la original y otras veces siento que me gusta más el remix, se me hace difícil decidir 🤯

@metal_helm

10 ай бұрын

¡Yo soy igual! ¡Cualquier versión que esté escuchando actualmente suele ser mi favorita!

Original vocals and the guitar and bass kicks ass. But in drums I gotta go for 2004. I'm sorry.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

why apologize? There's no right or wrong answer here (^_^)

@Metalviking18

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Some people get offended.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Metalviking18 don't worry about it. this channel is a free zone, say whatever you want!

I can barely tell a difference. I suppose I do have a slight preference for the original master, but I can't fairly say because I just came from reading an article whining about how much better the original sounds. So that already posioned the well against the 2004 version. It would be more fair to compare both versions without telling me which is which until after I've made up my mind as to which sounds better.

@metal_helm

2 ай бұрын

You really can't tell the difference? That's the first time I've ever heard that! You make a good point though maybe I will do that in a future video!

I think the remix only benefitted So Far, So Good, So What, and it was a minor update from the original mix at that (In My Darkest Hour's extended intro was good though)

@metal_helm

Ай бұрын

yeah I have to agree with the SFSGSW, working on a video on that now, and the remix sounds better than the original for sure

I agree that bass and drums may sound better on remix but I grew up listening to the original mix and the overdubbed vox and bass parts that replaced the original tracks are unlistenable to my ears. I bought an early press of this CD and recommend people do the same.

Listening on Apple Music, the remaster is WAY crispier than it sounds in this video. KZread compression/quality to blame perhaps? Or maybe the version on Apple Music is a different remaster?

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

it very well could be the compression, but then it would affect the original the same way. i can assure you that I took the lossless versions of both versions uploaded those. or yeah, maybe it is a different remaster??

あー、やっぱりオリジナルの方が好きですねー👍 ありがとう🖐

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

\m/ \m/

Man, I've been listening to remix for a long time, and honestly, that might be the reason why I never enjoy Rust in Peace as much as every other Megadeth fan. The way too high-pitched vocals, too sterile sound. I've now discovered the original record, and now I see why people love this. Although it's still below 'Peace Sells' for me. The only thing I like in this remix/partial re-recording is this subtle guitar in 'Dawn Patrol', it adds a bit of dark atmosphere to the song.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

well said. I'm guessing you are a bit younger and that's why you started out with the remaster (that's probably all that was available)

@Ziomaletto

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Well, I'm hitting 23 in November. ;) Remix is definitely the most available version out there.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ziomaletto cool! you're right. a lot of people my age complain "why have these crap remasters" and then the younger audience always comes out and says "because the orginals are way too expensive, hard to find and the remasters are all that's available"

Porque pienso que todo lo remasterizado es mejor, pero ahora que leo los comentarios y escucho las versiones originales me doy cuenta que me agradan mas y tiene la esencia del momento sin retoques y suena mejor!

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

Me alegra saber que al leer los comentarios has cambiado de opinión. A veces tengo la misma experiencia. ¡Leo comentarios y también cambio mi opinión!

@caricaturafea453

Жыл бұрын

Es que ni son remasters, son remixes o regrabaciones. Que hacen que arruinen el producto original

I prefer original because of the drums.

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

that's a valid reason, I totally get it!

@e_knees8816

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

I’ve got the 2004 cd and the iTunes version of the same mix and the iTunes one sounds way better which if they’re the same why is one better than the other?

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

it's possible it's not the same? or maybe a different remaster of it ?? who knows what itunes is doing over there.

@blakedavis2447

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm it said it came out in 2004 and it has all the bonus tracks and demos too so that adds to the confusion.

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

@@blakedavis2447 yeah there's no one holding them accountable either. you could write to them and see what they say??

Remaster has more brittle high-end, with less mid range and quieter low-end.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

well said! so does that mean you prefer the original?

You definitely should have compared the bass lick that ellefson does on take no prisoners. The remastered one sounds like he’s playing it on a shoe lace 😂

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

The remix is 1:47

I want original album, but I can't find a page where I can download in 360kbps 😞😞😞

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

do you have a CD player? I think you can still buy the original CD and burn it to a file

@Nomada-Auditivo

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Yes i have a collection of Sony Stereo System. Do you recommend any page to buy the CD?

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nomada-Auditivo maybe discogs? www.discogs.com/Megadeth-Rust-In-Peace/release/1298710 or ebay? but ebay may not always be accurate on their information. I think Discogs is better when it comes to that

@Nomada-Auditivo

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Yeah dude, thanks so much 🔥

Originals are a thousand times better. No idea why Dave did this.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

why do you like them better?

I have this on tape and it sounds great. Have it converted to AAC and listen to this in my car or my phone with headphones.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

you mean you have the original right?

@1008md

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm yes, i have killing through risk on cassette

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@1008md wow. i wonder if they're worth anything?

@1008md

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm I bought most of them this week. Just got an impulse to get the complete discography. The average price was about $6-20. Most are well used. But I am happy with them absolutely.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@1008md you know the sound quality will suffer over time with each repeated playback right?

ホタルさん！ remixの方がなんか、マイルドな感じがする、綺麗に聞こえてくる^_^なんでかなぁ？？

@metal_helm

5 жыл бұрын

コメントありがとうございます。remixの方が低音強調されているから、メロディーに影響あります。この理由でninaru kooさんにそれぞれの音符よく聴こえると思います。

@ninarukoo4268

5 жыл бұрын

そうなんですかぁ！^_^ 音楽って、面白いですねー👍イェーイ！

While I do prefer the original, and don’t necessarily anything past SFSGSW should have been touched with the exception of the bonus songs and the brief history in the remastered. I don’t hate the remastered at all. I got into Megadeth late, I just assumed they were a Metallica Knock off. My old boss / friend was a huge Megadeth fan and he showed me the light. This was 2003 so when I bought the cds they were all remastered.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

yeah definitely not a Metallica knock off, for better or worse. It's pretty cool that the younger generation can enjoy this stuff. gives me hope !

is the 2016 remaster the same as the 2004?

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

no idea, didn't have access to it at the time

@22YUx

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm it's available on qobuz and hdtracks just heared them here, it looks like it's a new remaster/remix or just the original since the 3 songs that dave rerecorded have his original voice

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

@@22YUx thanks for the heads up when I do an update for this video in the future I’ll have to include it

1990 bar none. I hate the remastered's sound.

Why was there even a remaster?

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

so I'm guessing you prefer the original? (^_^)

ORIGINAL 1990. all the way!!!!

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

cool! but why!?

should've shown the background vocals in five magics

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

you're probably right! I'm always open to highlighting certain parts of songs if anyone has suggestions.

This is not a Remix...this is a Re-record. Original is ALWAYS better.

The original sounds way better than the "Remaster" or as I call it a demaster

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching. what do you like about the original over the remix?

@deathmetalelitist666

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm the original sounds better and doesn't have the odd backup vocals

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@deathmetalelitist666 that's a reason as good as any!

Why do people keep trashing the remasters? Except for the vocals everything else is better and more clear sounding

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

it's hard to say..many people like what they grew up with. Maybe it's that? It's always good to see somebody stand up for the remasters/remixes.

@darkurgesbr

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm yeah... i think it all comes down to nostalgia.... and thats perfectly fine... but i am glad the remasters exist.. i couldnt bring myself to like peace sells until i heard the 2004 version which i think has a much better sound... and now its one of my all time faves

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

​@@darkurgesbr if you check on my peace sells video, ,there are some people who prefer the original but admit that wake up dead sounds better in the 2004.

I like the remastered version of Hangar 18 more

@metal_helm

5 ай бұрын

cool! why? what do you like better about it?

@viniciuscandido7133

5 ай бұрын

@@metal_helm I think the guitars on the original mix sound a little harsh to to the ears

@metal_helm

5 ай бұрын

well said! if you think you might like this kind of content, please consider subscribing!

Rip take no prisoners 1990-2004

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

meaning?

@bobbuilder5243

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Dave lost the vocals for the original song and had to redo them, and his vocals had definitely changed, it was pretty obvious dave did separate recordings for his vocals and the chants in the first vocals sound like only 2 people were singing “infiltrate them!” Instead of a crowd like the original. The overall base tone for the remastered was really good but that bass fill was not my cup of tea in TNP

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbuilder5243 got it! so which version do you prefer? 90 or 04? probably 90 right?

@bobbuilder5243

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm 90 it’s just personal preference I like the more raw sound

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbuilder5243 well said

I have the remaster and the original. I like both in it's own way. The drums and bass in remaster sounds kind of cool. Original is better but it sounds fresh on remaster. It's something different. The vocals are sometimes not as the original cause I hear some files got lost. Mustaine rerecorded some vocals. But that makes the album cool. I have my originals. You can go download all the old originals from brazilian websites with artwork. Just type bands name discografia. You get passwords and download rar. Files. The quality is good. 230kbps or something. It is very loud and good quality mp3. Can not hear a difference. I play them and keep my originals safe these days.

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

It's rare that someone likes both the original and remaster. I think that's pretty cool. If you have time please look at my other comparison videos as well

Of all the songs, Take No Prisioners was butchered the most.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

is that because of the re-recorded parts?

@thunderbirdforlife

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. The bass fill sealed it for me that this remaster is shit.

@Maggiethegsd

3 жыл бұрын

re recorded vocals were a total disaster

@jamesfarris3487

2 жыл бұрын

"Five Magics" was the worst in my opinion. But yeah, the whole 2004 version is crap.

@ej1025

2 жыл бұрын

Five Magics was really butchered, especially the vocals. I do prefer the guitars on the remaster though.

I have the remaster on Cd I still listen to it all time even if the original is better

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

why is that if you prefer the original? and what do you like about the original better?

@schecter5035

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm tbh i like them both pretty equally I like the clarity on the remaster the remaster cd was also just easier to get your hands on But the original seems to have more character

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@schecter5035 well said

Per carita' la prima stampa tutta la vita !!!

@metal_helm

9 ай бұрын

perchè la pensi così?

This is probably the only Megadeth album that I feel like the 2004 remaster may have actually benefitted it. It seems like there's more "space" with the 2004 remaster. I still feel like the drumkit is a bit weak, yet feels stronger than the original. Dave's vocals strangely sound weaker in the 2004 version, however. It almost sounds like he was trying to re-record them and wasn't quite hitting the notes. I am surprised to declare that I actually prefer the 2004 remaster of Rust In Peace.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

you're not the only one. they are despised, but some people prefer some of the songs depending on the album. Many people like wake up dead better, but that's about it when it comes to the 2004.

Idk, I just don’t really care for the production of older metal albums. I like how aggressive the 2004 version is

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

I totally get it! Glad to hear more people liking the remasters. If you like this kind of content please consider subscribing!

The 2004 remix of this record is a joke. It's mixed in the style of the 2004 metal era which is thick, compressed, and bloated. The original was not to be touched. The fact that Dave re-sang Take No Prisoners is such a miss. The only album that needed remastering was their debut. But he should've left them all alone. Have confidence in your art, Dave. Don't be someone forever tinkering with things that are done.

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

cmon Jack , dont hold back, tell us how you really feel (^_^)

Will never understand why dave remastered this

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, I know, compared to others, this one still sounds pretty good. I mean, I can see improving some parts, but yeah, it never needed a drastic rehab

Only reason I like reinstate is the sound being more clear but original all the way

the remaster drums dines the original in Holy Wars

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

dines??

Siempre una cancion remasterizada va a ser mejor. Es obvio

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

gracias por ver. ¿Por qué dices eso?

Top to bottom I was APPALLED by the 04 the first time I heard it. Take No Prisoners and Five Magics made me a convert, 4 years before the remix. I hadn't heard much, but I have now, and it's still Great. It would have failed for that alone, but it also has everything else wrong with it. NO SIR I DON'T LIKE IT. The original Rust disc is one of the best P4P sounding cds I have. Then again it's the same glorious stereo I first heard it on!

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

love your comments, really enjoying them

@neosmith8933

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm 🙏

i really think both are as good if the newer one not a bit brighter and bassey with the mix. Hoewer the take no prisoners hook change was so much worse in the never one.

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

Will said!

original of course!

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

but why?

I don’t like how they add or take away riffs. Example swearing bullets they add an unnecessary intro, while on Insomnia (from Risk) they completely take it out. I just get the feeling Mustaine is rarely satisfied with his work

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

welcome to the life of the self-torturing musician hahha

You can hear it best in the drums. Original all the way.

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

what do you hear in the drums vs. the remix?

@BowtieBoy05

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm whenever I listen to the remix it feels as though the guitars and the drums are on the same track which makes them feel really compressed and over produced. The original has more “volume” and clarity between the two parts, at least to my ears.

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

@@BowtieBoy05 will said!

I can hear a little difference on the timbre.

@metal_helm

3 ай бұрын

Which do you like better and why?

@dasRhythm

3 ай бұрын

@@metal_helm No clue. I'm not that picky😄

come on ,i just bought it,and it is day and night with the old version! what stereo do people have? i have hi-end stereo speakers and amps and come on,the sound is awesome in my opinion,won't listen to the old one anymore!

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

what do you like better about it? people's opinions really run the gamit on this kind of thing...

@filoudiver

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm everything ,first of all soundstage! and the mediums are awesome

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

@@filoudiver well said

@0:49 And to think I thought this song was all about Dave's dislike for electronica music...tell me they are not saying "techno-prisoners, techno-shit".

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

yup i hear it!

@calypsoshoard9132

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Funny thing is, with a song this bad-ass, it would still have been cool as hell with those lyrics...

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@calypsoshoard9132 I don't know...you may have ruined this song for me. only time will tell. Incidentally, my wife ruined a My Dying Bride song and a Dream Theater song for me as well LOL

@calypsoshoard9132

3 жыл бұрын

@@metal_helm Fail...sorry. I assume it is better going the other way (starting with the wrong lyrics and having the Ah-Ha moment to learn the true ones). Maybe a good video idea for your channel? "The Mysheard Lyrics of Metal". Just be sure to add a "brought to you by Calypso's Hoard" tag ;)

@metal_helm

3 жыл бұрын

@@calypsoshoard9132 no problem! i'm just joking. yeah that would be a good idea, but i've seen it done before. There' s a japanese tv show that does it and it IS hilarious!

The snare on remastered is 1000x better

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

so you prefer the remaster?

@nickplentzas5750

Жыл бұрын

I do yes

@metal_helm

Жыл бұрын

@@nickplentzas5750 that's cool, not too many people like the remastered better, so I can appreciate that

This was the video that I found out that the Megadeth 2004 remasters aren’t so good.. Out of all of the 04’ remasters, I’d have to say this is a contender for the worst. It follows a lot of the common tropes, like the re-recorded drums and bass. But I think they used different vocal tracks for certain songs? (Take no prisoners, five magics, there may be more)

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

I dont' think they drums and bass were re-recorded, just remixed. The vocals there are different though i believe

@idunnoman9402

2 жыл бұрын

That was on me, my bad lol

Original mix

@metal_helm

2 жыл бұрын

what do you like about that one better?

1990 . 😃

@metal_helm

9 ай бұрын

Why you like that one better?