As a Mexican it bothers me when developed countries critique developing countries when they try and grow, as if like they didn’t do the exact same or worse.

@hernanmigliori1913

Жыл бұрын

Exacto. La hipocresia de Occidente en su maxima expresion. Durante dos siglos quemaron carbon, petroleo, gas a placer para desarrollar sus industrias, talaron millones de arboles para construir sus lineas de ferrocarril, masacraron decenas de miles de nativos en EEUU y ahora se preocupan dando lecciones del ''costo ambiental'' cuando otros paises quieren mejorar su calidad de vida. Por suerte este ''Occidente'' hipocrita, agresivo, depredador esta cada dia mas cuestionado y declinante. Saludos desde Argentina.

@hectorgarciamtz

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you’re very sensitive.

@marcas9863

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you . That is the way it is..

@natesnautical

Жыл бұрын

So agree! It’s because they want to keep you poor and poverty stricken, why doesn’t California stop the Highspeed train, it’s damaging the ecology of California. BS.

@brayanhernandez6772

Жыл бұрын

​@@hectorgarciamtz why? He displayed true facts man.

The people who live in the proposed train route were consulted before the project and overwhelmingly voted in favor of the train. Environmental impact and mitigation studies were also done a year before the start of construction. Then came along US funded NGO’s to derail the project using the environment as their cover. These same “environmentalists” didn’t protest when European and US hotels were propped up around the Riviera Maya and surrounding jungles without any regulations. I despise when developed countries act high and mighty as if their highways and other necessary infrastructure for connectivity didn’t affect their environment. They just want to keep us underdeveloped. 💯

@MRouge-pc4hk

7 ай бұрын

jaja no hay tales MIAS de esa cosa, las que se presentaron tenían errores incluso en el mapeado con coordenadas UTM, todo se hizo a lo idiota como la refinería que no refina.

@chells210

6 ай бұрын

I think that’s an overwhelming trust on a government. Think we need to be open to both arguments. In Mexico, most if not all times, growth and profit is only for those in positions of power. Only time will tell. In hope that it does benefit the people and the country as a whole.

You should make another video about the Canadian mining companies and their impact in Mexico territory too, both economic and environmental, just to make a more fair approach to reality.

@ramengod5768

11 ай бұрын

>=[ no you can't criticize first world countries gotta beat the developing countries to summit

@galleralosbravenses564

11 ай бұрын

They want to make a campaign to stop México's developement.

@tjq15

11 ай бұрын

Isn’t this railroad for Gringo tourists tho?

@darkshadow-sv5xd

10 ай бұрын

@@tjq15 most likely

@enrimurg4103

10 ай бұрын

I have been there

Why don't you guys talk about Vulcan Materials Company? An american company that actually mined that land, to sell the lime stone, gravel and more in the USA, btw there is a picture taken from above in a plane that the president was flying on were you can actually see the damage that company caused and just barely notice the Mayan Train on the side, a hotel dug in the sinkholes too and were planning on making hotel rooms hanging inside the sinkholes but i mean, nobody is talking about it, how odd 🤔

@josericardolopez1297

Жыл бұрын

Back then they got paid to keep silence..

@1mexikaner

Жыл бұрын

Because they paid Business Insider not to talk about Vulcan Materials.

@rigobertorangel5041

Жыл бұрын

Es ridículo que vean una obra en la que si se hubiese construido en la época del ferrocarril en México ni lo verían, lo que es actual y como comentas sobre la extracción de materiales en lugares como este no se ven por qué no le interesa a la gente y mucho menos a quien tiene negocios en México.

@demenciapugilistica3479

Жыл бұрын

Todos los chairos al rescate 😂

@pedrozamartinez-gt2lq

Жыл бұрын

Bububu and bub this place is so beautiful I can't hardly wait to visit such a grate placeamlo doing grate thing but chayoteros are against president lopez obrador

When other country want to grow .US media always compare cost enviromental damage

@katytoy

Жыл бұрын

"Growing" like this in 2023 is not actually growing.. This "erect a bunch of 'MODERN' structures" mentality isn't modernity any more. Look at China -destroying their ecosystem to build some ugly concrete roach motels for people to live in, and now they're finding they've got a massive pollution problem - and rapidly declining birth rate, because surprise surprise once people "modernize" by moving to the big city - they want less children. This idea of "modernization" through destructive industrialization doesn't work. It will increase global warming which sucks for Mexico, because it's already unbearably hot in many places.

@ns7987

Жыл бұрын

It is true...they always paint it on a different(ugly) picture...to make people feel sorry for it.

@bomega2818

11 ай бұрын

If you think destroying natural resources is growth, then your knowledge speaks for itself

@fauzireef1865

11 ай бұрын

@@bomega2818 because life is paradox

@carlosw1687

11 ай бұрын

​@@bomega2818 obviously you have not understanding of growth

The problem is that tourists want to leave their concrete jungle and visit natural areas without the struggle of nature.

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

The railway is for mostly cargo.

@evilkenedy

Жыл бұрын

​@@garretth8224 no is called tren maya is for tourism you are thinking about the other railway sistem that will conect the golf of mexico with the pacific

@mrex8458

Жыл бұрын

They don’t want nature they want ✨nature✨

@fourthdeconstruction

Жыл бұрын

Nope, this is just about ego and not about tourism. There was no need to build such a thing. Many studies were done decades before for passenger trains. They only found that the only section profitable was the Cancun to Tulum section but warned that the environment cost was going to be huge. When the Lopez run for the presidency, he promised to do a rail loop called "tren Maya" in the Yucatan Peninsula. Conveniently, this train is connected to Lopez's state (Tabasco) and very close to his personal property. There is a law that says that for any government project has to show that it's going to be profitable in order to go ahead but several studies showed that this project as a whole is not profitable. Not to mention that the huge environmental damage. There were many law sues and most ended up in the supreme court because the supreme court was going to against the project, Lopez then declared the project a National Security project. So the sues can't get to the court until someone challenges the National security denomination before the courts. The opposition is doing that but the Supreme Court is busy with many unconstitutional laws that Lopez has instructed through his zoombies in the congress and senate to pass. This is about the stubbornness of the Lopez presidency.

@fourthdeconstruction

Жыл бұрын

@@garretth8224There is minimum cargo exchange within the peninsula. In fact most of the cargo or trade are conducted in the Gulf of mexico and the Caribbean. Quintana Roo is mostly a tourist state. Yucatan is more industrial than Quintana Roo and uses its ports to trade with the rest of Mexico, the US and the European union. Campeche is an oil state, they don't refine they just ship oil to other states.

As someone who's driven across the Yucatan Peninsula (several times) I can tell you right now that there is nothing there. If anything with this new Maya Train project they've FOUND NEW UNKNOWN prehistoric artifacts that would've never been found otherwise.

@user-nu2it6kf2m

Жыл бұрын

AMLO is a piece of trash though, mediocre president lobbying for his friends’ projects just like the trash before him. Only this affects wildlife.

@Maloxkov

Жыл бұрын

Como alguien que tiene conocidos arqueólogos , y vive en Yucatan debo decir que no los han descubierto antes debido a que el presupuesto asignado era nulo y no importaba , por la presión para documentar (no salvar) todo lo que se consiga se aumentó exponencialmente el presupuesto

Funny how the environmentalist never said anything regarding all the hotels in Cancun, Tulum etc. A train is a lot more ecological than roads as it minimizes forest destruction and eliminates CO2 emissions so stop making it seem like its the worst idea. This is the best possible outcome as the damage can be controlled and trees can be replanted while still bringing progress to the native people and prevent them from emigrating. I can’t wait for it to be done and go contribute to their local economy. Don’t act like you’ve never been on vacation to a nice beach? Think before you write… all construction started with nothing there and it has an effect in ecosystems!

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

Plenty of wildlife will get run over by the trains if there is no safe way through.

@ilangarcia6755

Жыл бұрын

@@garretth8224 yes that is true but in this project they are considering that and they are building multiple safe passages for wildlife. Again, it appears like the government understands the importance of being ecological friendly and they are trying to be extremely careful to not have a negative impact while still moving forward with development for the local people. The guy who supposedly quit his job is not native to that area, he is already used to the benefits of development and has the luxury to supposedly “quit” his job to go “defend” the ecosystems but the locals hardly have any jobs, running water or other modern services. So easy to complain about development when you are an outsider and you don’t have to live in precarious situations. Let the local people decide, like they already have and let them live in their homeland and still enjoy a decent life! All the corporate media complains about immigration but they also want to keep people enslaved to poverty unless is the rich taking advantage and exploiting their resources!

@Dude408f

Жыл бұрын

Environmental destruction because of the tourism has been denounced before. Some people never paid attention nor is doing now

@strongtowerman9661

Жыл бұрын

Did you forget all the cenotes that are being affected. Mexico president amlo lied and is protecting criminals. He should used all that money for a better health care he promised and medicine. Many lives lost already.

@horichuy6254

Жыл бұрын

Just because you like a president that doesn’t make everything he does ok . Remember the airport. He’s not the smartest

Developing countries need to develop

@exhaustedcoffee2603

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@exhaustedcoffee2603

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone gets it. This is for the people of southern Mexico that have been long forgotten. There’s a saying I rather have a full and feed human than fat jaguares!

@id10t98

Жыл бұрын

I made concrete and asphalt for my working career and sometimes there is a thing as going too far with 'development'.

@el_equidistante

Жыл бұрын

@@exhaustedcoffee2603 yeah keep thinking that way and you'll soon won't have either the jaguar nor food to feed the human idiot!

@fourthdeconstruction

Жыл бұрын

No, Mexico is about to be denominated a developed country in a few years. This development is not profitable as many studies have shown and it's damaging the environment hugely. Lopez has broken many laws and he knows this that it's why he denominated this project a National Security project so he could bypass the laws. But his denomination is being challenged and it's working through the many courts until it gets to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it gets reverses and the project gets stopped

In Mexicos defense, developed countries were able to conduct this type of environmental destruction decades before environmental protection was a thing. Not saying it’s right, but is it fair to hold developing countries upto the same standards as developed ones? Like cut them some slack, let them catch up then impose restrictions.

@jstephens1193

Жыл бұрын

You hit it on the head pal !

@meuuder

Жыл бұрын

The only right thing would be to provide them with financial incentive to not have to do these projects. If you had made a mistake in the past (that mistake being neglection of environmental protection) wouldn't you then try to have people learn from your mistakes?

@lukeh3020

Жыл бұрын

@@meuuder I don’t think that’s the right approach either. We had our Industrial Revolution and it was diabolically destructive. We can’t tell developing countries they can’t have theirs, we can just hope they do it in a clean and conscientious way.

@meuuder

Жыл бұрын

@@lukeh3020 you're just repeating what the guy above said. I think we should provide incentive and knowledge to lessen the strain on the environment instead of sidelining the escalation. How can you be against that?

@lukeh3020

Жыл бұрын

@@meuuder who’s providing it? Because if it’s just a form of charity it’s not going to work

Luckily trees can grow back and many more can be planted.. I understand why people are upset, but it is better than building a bunch of highway systems… Hopefully it’s just one maglev train because that would be spectacular and hopefully this can help the people of Mexico not just the ones who are profiting from it.

I doubt their ancestors would want them to starve to protect their old monuments.

@briansanchez6699

Жыл бұрын

The big irony is that they’re also upset about them having to go through old ruins which means that their ancestors had already cut down that forest to build the ruins

@Matuterocks

Жыл бұрын

@@briansanchez6699 Yeah, Mayans really did a whole lot of deforestation. Also, people in the south east don't struggle as much with starving, they can pretty much just raise their hand and find food. They are still very poor tho.

Mexico wants and needs to modernize one way or the other

That biologist acts as if he lives in a tree and the school he went to to become a biologist is hovering in the air.

If they committed some of the profits the train would generate into preserving the rest of the forest, I think that would be the best and more realistic outcome

@johnnychang4233

Жыл бұрын

They should had planned for and elevated railway if they really wanted to preserve the ecosystem. This current Mexican government is a totally negligent for profit criminal organization.

@Playami

Жыл бұрын

they failed to mention that the government has the most ambitious reforestation project with 'sembrando vida'... and that its also building the largest eco park in the world... it will be called 'parque ecologico lago de texcoco' if you want to look into it.

@GabrielGarcia-gr5gr

Жыл бұрын

They are planting more than 1 million acres of trees in that area, did they tell you that and that pseudoenvironmentalist works for kimberly clark who in turn gets money from usaid not to mention that kimberly clark ís one of the biggest polluters in mexico

@chipsonmilk823

Жыл бұрын

Knowing mexico they would cut corners and keep the rest of the money

@presterjohn1697

Жыл бұрын

Market based economies have no interest in maintaining the environment unless their a dollar amount associated.

It's the cost of progress save as much as possible but its something that must be done for Mexico to elevate itself

Well, the president was technically correct when he claimed he would not cut down a "single" tree.

@alidaroxana12

Жыл бұрын

Right

@presterjohn1697

Жыл бұрын

lots and lots and lots more

@Dr_Khanz

Жыл бұрын

😂

@WormBurger

Жыл бұрын

From what I saw there was no cutting at all. Straight up bulldozed.

@DevJB

Жыл бұрын

But they're planting like 500+ million and helping many other reserves apparently. I think that's a cool program at least.

People could have easily made the same argument against roads being built. Trains actually are a more efficient infrastructure for distribution and transportation. I took a trip in 2021 that encompassed the entire run of the Tren Maya but it was by car. Cancun - Tulum- Bacalar- Xpujil - Calakmul - Escarcega - Palenque - Campeche - Merida- Valladolid - Cancun What was my carbon footprint from that trip? How much risk did I take by using a car which can be stolen, crashed, break-downs, insurance, etc.? Let the tourists pay for the infrastructure that benefits the citizens of the area it's built in. And a lot of new national treasures are being unearthed and preserved thanks to the Tren Maya.

@caarloosppp

Жыл бұрын

Roads were built with a purpose in mind to solve and improve mobility. What exactly is this project actually solving? It’s nothing more than a propaganda campaign project, foolishness of the current government. - Nobody in this country asked for another goddamn train in exchange of our jungles and cultural heritage -

@joelewishenry7886

6 ай бұрын

👏🏽 well said sir

It’s never good to destroy the Forrest jungle ect. However, if ur trying to move forward to stabilize urself as a first world country and get out at least at as a developing country then yes this is absolutely a “must do at any cost” because it will change the lives forever. More jobs better econonomy better wages everything changes for the better so yes, it has to be done. It’s not taking a lot anyways but Latin America needs to change for the better and this is a huge step and mexico seems to be the only country that’s able to afford these changes.

@joelewishenry7886

6 ай бұрын

Well said.

@A1Kira

2 ай бұрын

Mexico has the 12th highest gdp in the world… and it grows every year. In some parts you absolutely can live a first world lifestyle, but there is a lot of wealth inequality that needs to be fixed. Just like in the U.S. though, there is wealth inequality everywhere.

There is no path in life that does no harm. There's always a cost for improving the quality of life. We all live in places that once were forests.

@ahkine4096

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, walk the path of least destruction. But destruction is an inevitability.

@15stars

Жыл бұрын

Some of us don't lol

@MichaelMenard89

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how was every city built, I mean we gotta live somewhere.

@15stars

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMenard89 that's weak thinking look at those tribes in Africa living better lives than most of us who have technology

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

​​@@15stars We can still reduce our environmental impact with how we build cities and infrastructure. We live on this planet so we should probably take care of it. We don't have anywhere to escape to.

Check this out. There is a tolll road from Cancun to Merida they made as same deforestation than the train but nobody say anything about this and this private road have no benefits for tha population

@inaweoftheworld

Жыл бұрын

Right. These videos are just political propaganda against Morena.

@Imyourfather225

Жыл бұрын

a road that is used by millions, the train won't move the same volume of goods and people, that is a fact.

@DiegoGarcia-lf3mh

Жыл бұрын

@@Imyourfather225 so it’s ok if we destroy the environment and we get revenue in exchange? How much is the correct amount?

@roger9685

4 ай бұрын

​@Imyourfather225 it's not just a passenger train, it's also a commercial train route. Meaning less usage and pollution form carbon dioxide from deasel engines. It can haul infinite amounts of product.

@roger9685

4 ай бұрын

​@@DiegoGarcia-lf3mhenough to rebuild and stabilize the ecosystem. Also this was more of a choice for the local people that would be affected and the majority was for it. I think that has more Merit that other mexicans and foreigners agreeing or not to build it.

See, I am all here for conservation. But we cannot mandate that countries historically exploited by colonialism not develop infrastructure in the name of environmentalism. Document the ecological cost and mitigate accordingly.

@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I'm thinking. Videos like this always makes me think that the insider sees the developing and least developed countries as a zoo and not an actual place with actual people living in it.

@ElusiveTy

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with your biases, but I do agree that ALL countries should be able to develop. It really is a matter of staying in the past or moving forward towards the future. Some things are worth the sacrifice (as sacrifice is ultimately losing something for some benefit or the greater good). At the same time, it's obviously important to maintain ecology and history - the former of which, if lost, would have immense flow on effects, everywhere.

@Asmodeus_1

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I'm all for environment protection, but this will benefit very much the people there

@exhaustedcoffee2603

Жыл бұрын

@@Asmodeus_1finally someone understands. All the activists are not even in Mexico my people are starving!!

@exhaustedcoffee2603

Жыл бұрын

@@Asmodeus_1This is for the better

The impact of a train is minimal compared to a road. Sometimes people need to take a step back. I'm sure their other forests would have been just fine if they had trains instead of a billion rotten diesel trucks and unmaintained cars just ruining the air.

@Slowdowndummy

Жыл бұрын

And the parakeets live all over the continent. These activists shoulda been around 50 years ago.

@TheDANnl

Жыл бұрын

@Slowdownkids, The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!

@Playami

Жыл бұрын

true... i've been on a train that runs tru a jungle in India... trust me... the jungle is still there thriving

@TheDANnl

Жыл бұрын

@@Playami Yucatan is a very different and unique kind of jungle, it's not India, it's only water is subterranean and all of that is to be polluted with no chance to restore its pristine condition.

@Playami

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDANnl yeah, thats why in that specific place is going to be a bridge.. or like what they call it.. puente atirantado just google it 'puente atirantado tren maya' there are more than 200km of the 1500 km that are in bridges.... in a couple of years well look back at this post and one of us is going to be right

When Europeans did the same a century ago, it was all fine & justified. Now others are on a path of progress and everybody finds a problem with that... Go and demolish half of New Jersey and put some trees there. Let's see how Freedom Folks would react to that... ( Not a word on how trains are efficient mode of transportation and would save on fossil fuel based pollution, when compared to the same amount of people being transported by roads ) These lobbyists don't find any problems in expanding highways and urban sprawl. But it's pathetic to see them against public transportation projects that are meant to serve common people.

@meuuder

Жыл бұрын

You don't think perceptions change within a century? Humans used to think earth's resources were near endless. Nowadays we know we are the reason for the next mass extinction.. Progress is great but not at all cost. This project is not all sunshine. They wanted to do it along the coast, but hoteliers lobbied against it. Call that progress?

@TheDANnl

Жыл бұрын

@Ashish Saxena The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!

@mikelarrieta1

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheDANnl You're stupidly mistaken, it's a hybrid train and uses electricity.

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

1. We didn't know better, climate change wasn't even a concept a century ago. 2. We didn't really care until more recently. Demolishing a city and planting a forest is not the same thing as this. You can't accuse Americans in general of trying to dictate what you do. The US gov has no issues with this construction.

@ashishsaxena6418

Жыл бұрын

@@garretth8224 I know US has no problems with it. It's just an example...

Wonderful jobs are needed and important to Mexico development

a majority of problems could be avoided if the railway line was placed adjacent to the highways and completely elevated. this would reduce the environmental effect a whole lot.

@brianneftalicontrerassanti3091

Жыл бұрын

And raise the cost and the time it'll take to complete, plus, you'll be digging, remember the sinkholes? So doing it this way is not the best

@ViralNewslatam

Жыл бұрын

And tell us why the Europeans didn't do it then and instead cut down all their forests?

@el_equidistante

Жыл бұрын

@@ViralNewslatam what does that have to do with anything? so because they did the wrong thing that justifies us doing the wrong thing? what does the wildlife have to pay for it? destroying all the forests will only destroy the world so what good is it development for then? Also las SELVAS are not like the european forests, they are way more important to the global environment, you people are a disgrace odian a la maquina imperialista y al mismo tiempo quieren hacer todo como ella!

@nexu6517

Жыл бұрын

​@@ViralNewslatam "You did it last time so why cant we now" is insufficient and honestly a joke of an argument. Europeans did it during the Industrial revolution, a time where people thought mercury is the solution to coughs. Im not saying developing countries must not progress at all, but that with the knowledge of the modern day comes the responsibility of protecting the environment and what little of rainforests we have left. There are always better ways to do things, and this is definitely one of them

@wetguavass

Жыл бұрын

this is bullshit misinformation ..the jungle is growing .. Mexico is planting 1 billion trees, cleaning up illegal dumpsites, reducing gas vehicles, etc. No cenotes are at risk, no archeological sites are bein destroyed, etc.

First world countries damaged the environment so much that we can not afford to allow that trend to continue.I propose that the wealthy countries share part of the wealth they acquired by that process also will be nice of them if then return all the historical items they stole .

The jungle took over the Mayan population cities and almost hid them from view. With help from local and federal governments, hopefully the jungle can be encouraged to regrow over time.

You cannot really enjoy nature without the struggle of nature...

Mexico is a vast country. Tourism has already destroyed the ecology of locations such as Cancun, Puerto Valharta etc. Perhaps now with this knowledge there can still be progress but in sympathy with the ecology not destroy it

@cibervilla2594

8 ай бұрын

they believe they are going to get more tourists if they build more hotels, highways , airports, but the true is that people will stop going mexico because it is loosing its beauty in the name of what the call progress...

In Sri Lanka, number of elephants are being killed by crossing train route every year. In that sense, I can foresee the ominous impact that the animals in that part will have to face in the future.

@mikelarrieta1

Жыл бұрын

Mexico is not Sri Lanka, man.

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikelarrieta1 It still has plenty of other life to get run over. Apparently only big animals count to you.

@asankajayaweera7212

Жыл бұрын

@@mikelarrieta1 Yes that's true. Sri Lanka is not a hub of drugs, gang crimes and mass shooting. 😁

@Jayjoe1006

Жыл бұрын

@@asankajayaweera7212 Considering how in Sir Lanka the economy collapsed there’s shortages of everything the country itself can’t afford imports can’t pay back it’s debt poverty has risen up to 25%. Mexico has issues with violence yes but the economy is strong the peso is strong inflation is better the food is amazing the culture is amazing the people are beautiful our music is great and our country is improving day by day. I admit violence is a problem but we’re in a better position

@Jayjoe1006

Жыл бұрын

@@asankajayaweera7212 Don’t be a racist

Los árboles fueron reubicados no salgan con sus mmds

I am worried that what happened to the Roman Forum will happen to those Mayan ruins. The Roman Forum got a giant avenue built right on top of a part of it, destroying part of a priceless historical site. Same happened in Buenos Aires, where they chopped parts of the historical Cabildo building off to make 2 avenues. Economic development should never destroy historical sites.

@moctezumaaleg2008

Жыл бұрын

well its going around the historical sites not that close for that to happen and about over half the rail road already existed just needed renovating and needed to get connected.

@Uberzooka

Жыл бұрын

What's more important: historical sites, natural environments, humans living in poverty?

@justsomeguywithmustachio5369

Жыл бұрын

There are things that should be sacrificed for progress

@ericktellez7632

Жыл бұрын

You need to worry about your own business my man not ours.

@rudyperez9298

Жыл бұрын

I am worried people are starving. People take for granted the have paved streets, homes with no leaks, jobs, electricity, food, water! So because some people that aren’t even Mexican believe or think that it is beneficial to the world that Mexicans live in poverty, that’s fine we should just except it? I think not! You take for granted that you have had these things your whole life you don’t know what these people feel or want. I’d much rather have this train that will provide jobs and opportunities. These historical sights will be here when we’re gone. On the plus side, they didn’t build anything too close to these sites. Actually they’ve found thousands of new Mayan artifacts in the new part of the rail system, not all is new just upgraded the railway was already there.

Funny how the narrator calls mexico Central American 😅

@amparocruz951

Жыл бұрын

Well, Yucatán is geographically in Central America

@cibervilla2594

8 ай бұрын

of course is central america, bunch of apes

Thanks for presenting both sides of the story - it seems like both sides were fairly represented here. That’s rare these days.

@SpartanChief2277

Жыл бұрын

NOT

@joeyoest1105

Жыл бұрын

@@SpartanChief2277 why not? What was misrepresented?

This is far better than building 6 lane highways. Less pollution and more economically viable in long term.

Most people against this project were actually on favor of it because the proposed route was completely different; it was to follow an existing road, limiting ecological damage to a minimum. But after creating the path for it and placing foundations the Government realized it was going to be way out of budget, so they went for the easiest solution; cut a straight line across jungle and over fragile limestone caves, nothing will go wrong for sure. That's what made a lot of people oppose the project, the lies. And when people complained about it the President said "Oh, now it turns out everybody is an ecologist" in a mocking tone. And also he declared the project "Of National Interest" meaning the Courts can't halt construction and citizen can't request detailed expenses sheets. So it is a pretty grey project, corrupt if you want to keep it hidden from prying eyes.

@mikelarrieta1

Жыл бұрын

You're misinformed. 😂

@daviddavis4885

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the parts of it that follow the pre-existing road aren’t a terrible problem (other than the traffic caused by the road closures lol) They completely changed the scope of the project without consulting the locals. My family is from Yucatán, and I know firsthand that many of them don’t want the train. I hate all the dumb Americans and Europeans watching this video and just saying “trees shouldn’t stop progress! Infrastructure for the win 🎉” because they don’t know anything about what’s going on 🤦‍♂️

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikelarrieta1 Prove you are informed before accusing other's of being misinformed.

@rogerlemagnifique7415

8 ай бұрын

@@garretth8224 yeah! ervilla is misinformed & you too, garrita I'm the proof you ask for.

There needs to be wild life corridors. A way for wild life to go over the train. Bridges in mapped out areas were we know there is high traffic areas of wild life.

@captainkrajick

Жыл бұрын

There are quite a number of animal crossings. They aren't dumb

@SpartanChief2277

Жыл бұрын

They literally say this in the video

@coolboss999

Жыл бұрын

It literally said there will be a lot of those in the video...

@EricM-gm5wz

Жыл бұрын

@@coolboss999 ok, let’s see them build it

@EricM-gm5wz

Жыл бұрын

@@SpartanChief2277 k, let’s see them actually build them…

Seems like a very straight and wide swath of jungle for an environmentally low impact rail line

This is good, but Mexico should also focus on improving its infrastructure. Specifically, its roads and rail lines to connect manufacturing centers to ports and the US-MX border. Mexico is very behind and needs to catch up ASAP...

@EnriqueGonzalez-hd3ez

6 ай бұрын

Mexico did it today.... (The trains... with 7 new rail lines)

Vulcan Materials and predatory practices, let’s talk about them next Business Insider.

Just imagine if we have the same thoughts during the industrial revolution, development is needed in those places too

This is the British take, but I bet they are very silent about the destruction of rio tinto, etc. if you go to states like Oregon and Washington the destruction of trees is unbelievable

The same price when in Europe several countries open up the Black Forest to build ways for railroad and automoviles... They forget everything they have done for progress...

What crime did humankind do to deserve Politicians 🤦🏿‍♂️

@Mexicano1768

Жыл бұрын

We sinned

Train is great media of transportation cleaner and faster is going to bring business and job to the Mexican from the peninsula Yucatan. All corps don’t like this kind of projects. the jungle was split it already with the highway…… Merida to Cancun 2 hours plus the price for Mexican is going to be cheaper a lot of people from that area never enjoy the beaches of Cancun.

why do they judge mexico for the good it does for its people

its infrastructure for people, so it's worth it

@rdizzleoriginal

Жыл бұрын

Blech

I think Over bridge should be built in regular distances to connect the two part of forest and the railway line should be walled. So that animals don't come under train.

YES IT IS WORTH IT. The maya still exist and live in terrible conditions, if this do something to integrate them into the larger country its worth it, whatever it costs.

i support the jungles of mexico and i am from pakistan

@aliendrum4310

Жыл бұрын

Thank you from a Mexican.

Yes, Developing Countries Need to Develop.

100 yard wide cut isn't even bad, just make crossover paths for animals and it's alright.

@victorruiz9504

Жыл бұрын

They are building tunnels and bridges for the animals. I haven’t finished watching the video so I’m not sure if they mentioned that.

@fotisvls8277

Жыл бұрын

its not to easy, tunnels and bridges for animals will not counteract the catastrophe generated by all this work.

Good for Mexico!!! Most Mexicans are happy about this project!!

@cibervilla2594

8 ай бұрын

probably yes, but that is because they are ignorants, they dont understand that people will stop going mexico because of projects like this...

@cristianvelazquez9705

8 ай бұрын

@@cibervilla2594 hahaha no

@cibervilla2594

8 ай бұрын

@@cristianvelazquez9705 we will see..

People are animals too, and the ones on the peninsula are struggling, this train will help them.

Swear Half the people on these comments won't ever go to mexico to visit nature. Let the people build their own infrastructure without us interfering damn

@el_equidistante

Жыл бұрын

who's interfering?

How about you mind your business… Mexico is a free country and we do far more than other countries to protect the environment.

Can't wait to use it. 🤗 Love train Maya ❤

People are tired of migrating to the United States looking for work. Now people have work in their region and can use that to support their families. It’s not easy when the cost of living is so high and people have no money because there is no work.

Just let this project be built and prosper. And then try to build many bridges or underpass for the animals and plant more trees on both ends of the jungle and make it a sanctuary....

I live in cancun and the govt is doing alot to reforest and protect the flora and fauna beyond whats done before

@autentico3284

Жыл бұрын

no es verdad---lie

@michaelchase1911

Жыл бұрын

@@autentico3284 , this video was 13 minutes of lies lol!

@katytoy

Жыл бұрын

How can they "reforest"? We're talking about bulldozing ancient trees, and disrupting species ecosystems. You think you can just REPLACE these with some new trees, most probably GMO made, and everything will be just as good as before??

@cibervilla2594

8 ай бұрын

that is just not true

American corporations are pissed because is the Mexican government that is doing it and not them 😂

the biggest joke here, they think this will boost tourism, but dealing with the cartels would ACTUALLY do that and be good for the Mexican people as a whole

That interview of the President was about a construction of a bridge and road when he was Gobernor of México City 🤣. Funny how this videos misinform a lot.

Let’s put those artifacts in museums and build that track!!!!

Develop countries development project doesn't harm environment but developing countries development projects degrade environment....What a world we're living in...😂

I was going to watch this video, but a minute into the Chayote I got enough to stop watching it and move on to something less politicized. Viva Mexico!

Why people from the 1st world is so entitled to tell us what to do and how to do it, they have tons of passenger trains we have none, also their companies come here to extract resouses for them, Mexico should stop caring what they think

@garretth8224

Жыл бұрын

Lmao the us is barely first world.

@josephrodriguez5510

Жыл бұрын

@@garretth8224 I was referring to Europe, everybody knows the US is a third world country but very rich

Well its either that or a highway. Get over it. The highway would do far more damage. They are far wider and we all know how people in cars love to litter. This is by far the best outcome.

Why this guys cannot make an elevated or an Alrernative route??

Vulcan has destroyed pretty much everything in mexico , IS should make a vid about it.

I mean This current government has done the most in term of reforestation about half of the rail road tracks already exist and are just getting connected and not all stretches had trees some didn't have any already.

It is disgusting this report who is built on a false narrative rather than asking the true Mayan communities, but rather you create a report from pseudo environmentalist who in the past were no were to be found in the construction of these tourist mega projects to Cancun destroying communities and cenotes. What don’t you do your interviews with Mayan communities and how do they feel about the El Tren Maya?

Rails is better for environment than driving in EVERY METRIC. HSR opposition are not “environmentalists”. They are NIMBYs. They are literally delaying transitioning to renewable energy and all-electric transit by opposing EVERYTHING.

People can say whatever but Im glad Mexico is starting a project and actually finishing it to grow and generate money. Bc living in poverty Sucks.

There’s already an extended network of wide and empty roads, the train could have just followed those existing paths.

@SpartanChief2277

Жыл бұрын

It's following abandoned raíl lines already

@alrent2992

Жыл бұрын

The hotel associates put up a fierce fight against that. They were originally was going to go along exiting highways.

The whole world use to be forest and jungle before cities this is something that has to be done

that so called environmentalist is not even from the region 😂

Let Mexico be! The people voted for the Mayan train 🚆

The only criticism I have about the Maya train is that it is not a bullet train. Should have been a bullet train so people can get from Cancun to Mexico City in a matter of minutes while gazing at the beautiful mountains scenery, specially during the wet season. Mexico hasn’t taken advantage of that, there’s a whole natural world unknown to Mexicans & tourists, Mexico has grand canyons, lush green valleys that are just hidden. It’s a real shame tbh.

The USA obliterated anything that was a Native American landmark. Very little has survived and much of history was re written. Mexico at least has a connection to it’s culture.

Repeat after me: the train was not built on virgin forest, but on tracks abandoned for forty years. The roads existed for more than 70 years and what was done was to take advantage of what already existed. To say anything else is to lie. It was built with the agreement of the native peoples and other inhabitants precisely to avoid the destruction of the jungle. Leaving these people in misery and telling them to take care of the jungle is what paper ecologists have been doing. In the last five years in Mexico, more than 1,000 million endemic timber and fruit trees have been planted on the lands of poor farmers who are paid a daily wage to take care of the trees.

Don't missinform

Wow I can't believe what they done to the jungle and the holes of many species we will be paying the price for this deforestation in many years to come . RIP

@heylaolheylol7445

Жыл бұрын

The train is designed to make the most minimal amount of damage to nature

@SpartanChief2277

Жыл бұрын

What did the mayans do to build their cities?

@ag97z72

Жыл бұрын

Either way the project has to be done we can’t all just say no because of a jungle, where you live I can guarantee you before all that was created it was all forest or jungle etc and nobody complained about the environment. I mean it’s 2023.

@Classics310

Жыл бұрын

@@ag97z72 absolutely but trust me that will create unbalanced environment and it will have a major impact it has been home to millions of species that are only found in that area of the world.

Please talk also about Calica mining project that was before this government and no pseudoambientalists talked about

He is an environmentalist and is concerned about a narrow path that required some tree removal, yet he drives a gas vehicle and pollutes the air. What a hypocrisy

The Best proyect

Maya train is great and has more pros than cons. There is no perfection. Nobody says a word of the ecosystems caused by countless of international huge luxury hotel resorts in Cancun Playa del Carmen and Tulum and Mayan Riviera

wow 1 stright line for the train across the forest wont hurt

This is a high price to pay just to move tourists. Meanwhile Mexico’s existing railroads and ports need to be modernized. Growth for the sake of growth leads to collapse.

Most of the people that live in the area want this, so please shush and let us develop our country.

I his defense, he did say he wasn't going to ✂️ cut down a single tree. But he never said anything about cutting down an entire jungle

@OnLyFuN1306

Жыл бұрын

For every tree cut down another 100 are being planted so from a point of view no trees were cut. Unlike in other countries

They should make a documentary about that USA company who was destroying playa del Carmen

@Mexicano1768

Жыл бұрын

cual?

It's all about the 💸💵💲 I am starting to think that humans don't deserve to survice the climate emergency

This project is wonderful

As long as they build a bridge or tunnel that the animals can go to cross over

Let us also remember that one of the largest ecocides in Quintana Roo was carried out by the American company Vulcan-Calica

@Jimmyxsx

7 ай бұрын

Funny how those environmentalists don’t say anything about that, that company you mentioned has destroyed like 2 thousand square miles of land and underground rivers but they are silent.

It is good for tourism, it is not like they are cutting all trees

“No queremos un Japón al sur de la frontera” Zbgniew Brzezinki Secretario de Seguridad del gobierno de Jimmy Carter

I’m sorry. Poor countries need development.