He's right about them being tree farms instead of forests. I've been to two man-made forests which were planted with at least 2-3 different of species of trees. The first noticeable thing when you're in the man-made forests is it's very quiet. You hardly hear any animal sounds in them. It's because it lacks diversity that is necessary to support a functioning animal ecosystem which itself is also very diverse.

@cjwrench07

7 ай бұрын

My area is a major pulp and lumber supplier in N.America. It’s so easy to tell natural vs artificial areas, because prey animals and even scavengers stay clear of the artificial areas. There is nearly zero ground cover & food supplies for bugs, and that makes it nearly unliveable for the larger animals.

@DakotaActually

7 ай бұрын

It's a forest, not an animal preserve.

@thekraken1173

7 ай бұрын

@@DakotaActually 1 iq comment

@OutsiderLabs

7 ай бұрын

@@DakotaActually It isn't a forest, that's the point. It's a farm. Calling it a forest is like calling a cornfield a prairie

@adeptusmagi

7 ай бұрын

and cardboard is not essential either bamboo plaques have been used instead of cardboard it last longer the plants regrow faster

Michael Scott's paper company can recycle more than 7 times

@geoffrey6000

7 ай бұрын

😂

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

And it’s still wasteful and terrible. Hemp can also be recycled and it’s cheaper, faster, easier, greener, and doesn’t destroys miles of trees, old growth forests, and ecosystems. Edit: imagine actually getting perturbed over my comment. But: “Paper Made from Hemp Can Be Recycled More Times: Plus, hemp paper can be recycled up to 8 times, while wood pulp paper only up to 3 times.” -Whatishemp

@geoffrey6000

7 ай бұрын

@@OddWoz bruh, this is so unrelated. You are in no place, education or industry wise, to claim that. You can have an opinion, but you don't need to share it.

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

@@geoffrey6000 so yours also meets that criteria. You can hold on to your “unnecessary” comments just as easily. I’d argue mine’s much more related to “How the Worlds Largest Paper Company Makes Cardboard”

@user-zp7jp1vk2i

7 ай бұрын

@@robertlee6338 Hemp also requires very specific types of machinery, tech., and processes unique to hemp. It doesn't present itself as a placebo unless you're a contrarian and believe ANY solution other than this main one is @The Answer to ALL the Questions!

This is the first time in literally years of my life that I've seen reporting on a subject that is this unbiased. Really pleasant to watch.

@Casey093

7 ай бұрын

This is how documentaries should be! Not everything has to be dramatized. :)

@pobvic

7 ай бұрын

Yes this is much more in the style of UK Documentary making, it's refreshing to see something concise and informative on North American Industry

@hustlersdomain

7 ай бұрын

blah blah blah

@gwynm8506

6 ай бұрын

Yeah when they said it’s highly productive or exploited depending on who you ask really shows how they won’t just say one side

@kevingray8616

5 ай бұрын

Yes and no. Multiple members of my family worked at a paper mill. This video still makes the error of focusing on carbon emissions and not the pollution caused by the paper mill. Carbon emissions being a real problem is a lie. The carbon dioxide level is 0.04% of the air. If the carbon dioxide level rises, trees and such will absorb more carbon dioxide and grow bigger, thus removing the excess carbon dioxide from the environment. They actually pump carbon dioxide into marijuana grow houses to encourage the growth and yield of the marijuana plants. Global warming is a grift. They have improved the smell of paper mills substantially, but the problem with paper mills is the waste water which has nasty chemicals in it. (they talked about the chemical use in the video) They dump waste water into streams and rivers which causes all kinds of damage. Global warming is a way to hinder YOU from doing what you want to do while distracting you from these polluting companies. (look here, not there, you're the problem, you need to stop driving your car) There is a documentary called "Company Town" (2016) which was made about the mill my family worked at.

I work for a company that makes exclusively recycled linerboard. In the industry, that's the smooth outside sheet of your corrugated box, as opposed to the corrugating medium. Great to see this detailed documentary.

@NobbsAndVagene

6 ай бұрын

"What is my purpose?"

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

LONDON, HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP. Hemp is MORE economical, does not damage Earth or Natural Habitats One HEMP Acre of 6 Weeks is equal to 1 acre of 20 year old Forests. HEMP produces every 6 Weeks. Preserves Mountain Tops. Equal to 20 years, leaving Mountain tops Bare.

75% of their energy use being produced on site seems pretty incredible.

@jonahsemyonov9985

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. I visited a mill that produces 60% of it's own. The other 40% came from a local hydroelectric utility

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

The 🌎 is incredible.

@GregHighPressure

7 ай бұрын

not really if it's burning the bark for that power to run electrical machines. better ways than that, pretty unenvironmental practices disguised as doing the right thing... :/

@Kukkaloota

7 ай бұрын

75% is quite nothing in newer mills where external energy is used to start the mill. After starting, the energy goes surplus and is sold to the national grid.

@Kukkaloota

7 ай бұрын

​@@GregHighPressure Unfortunately, that is untrue. After debarking, the bark is pressed, dried and burnt in a fluidized bed boiler. This ensures quite low emissions with high efficiency. The flue gas can be recirculated as heat, but after that, it is filtered, washed and then released. The result is mostly water vapour, but of course, some harmful emissions, but not in the range of what they have been in the past.

As a Amazon employee I think I know where most of theses boxes go

@kawaiipurplesaphire6163

7 ай бұрын

One comment and 45 likes let me change that-

@delilah8476

7 ай бұрын

​@@thor.halsliNo

@semperfi2507

7 ай бұрын

Where ? Walmart ?

@NPC_YouTube

7 ай бұрын

rip all the trees lol

@lawrencejneuser8801

7 ай бұрын

They fill up the landfill and that's no bullshit

As someone who works in forestry for a state government, you'll never find the right answers talking to one forester or another, there are so many ideas and concepts out there people won't agree. In general clear cutting is not the worst thing and can provide a lot of benefits, selective thinning is also not a bad option. It's very nuanced and it depends on previous forest management, ecological history, and what you want to do with the land in the future.

@t9056

5 ай бұрын

exactly my family has done selective thinning for 50 years...our land is so diverse and what i call virgin ground....but everywhere else around has already been either clear curt and replanted or back in the day forest fire so selective thinning isnt has helpful as it is for us...but not many ppl can do what we do...we own the mill and use our land for rarer hardwoods for furniture

@bathman16

Ай бұрын

its nice when YT comments have reason and intellect, thank you!. It all depends on the case and there is no one right answer!

@A.P.03

Ай бұрын

Sure, but foresters rarely replant enough native trees species that is required for maimtaining wildlife biodiversityl. This, of course, lowers the biodiversity of the crop and also the ecosystem. Foresters usually regrow an even-aged stand with one species. It's a monoculture and damaging to soils as well as the biodiversity of the larger forest biome. We do this because it is easier to harvest a single crop faster and at a cheaper price.

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

IO HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP.

@oldtimerf7602

Ай бұрын

I am a professional timber harvester, and you nailed it. Each wood lot is different, and needs a tailored approach to long term viability. I do it as much as I can, but most of my work is development.

my recycling company specifically says you CANNOT recycle pizza boxes due to the grease. Make sure you check with your local waste company to see what they recycle. You will learn just how shit our recycling systems are.

Great article which only scratches the surface of how much recycling and upcycling occurs in a modern paper mill. For example, the black liquor is not only burned; black liquor soap is recovered and refined into tall oil rosin which is used to make many products. As for the sustainable forestry practices, while 30% is a “low” number, the number was near 0% when I started my career in the mid-90’s. Considering the life cycle of a forest, getting to 30% in 30-yrs represents significant commitment and progress. It also means that 60% of the liner board and corrugated medium now comes from recycled or sustainably managed fiber sources! Can more de done? Absolutely but let’s not disregard the progress that has been made.

@adampalmer5399

7 ай бұрын

💯✅💪

@austinmysterio

7 ай бұрын

This guy gets it. I work in the powerhouse department of an IP mill which also encompasses the tall oil portion of the plant. It's well known the tall oil alone pays everyone in the departments salary.

@slippinjimmy897

6 ай бұрын

I think this may be called a "video" rather than an article.

@nalgene247

6 ай бұрын

@@slippinjimmy897 It is an article of video journalism.

@slippinjimmy897

6 ай бұрын

@@nalgene247 I am aware of what journalism is. I never said it wasn't journalism. It isn't an article. An article is very specifically a written form of journalism. Just look up the definition.

I work for international paper and we do take waste and recycling seriously it's a great company to work for and just the one machine I work on alone makes about 1,000,000+boxes a week on average

@gePanzerTe

7 ай бұрын

Well, environmentalists look like they are never satisfied. And thus playing the game of the Corporations in getting The People used to live under-graded lives with very little improvement in comfort due to so-called shortages. 🤔 Said shortages mainly due to poor management, lack of investment, funding and maintenance. Etc.

@donald8607

7 ай бұрын

Worked at IP Gilroy Container 20yrs. I would disagree! EVERY hourly employee is miserable! From 40yr vets to 2yr new hires. Place was run like a sweatshop 12hrs a day 6-7 day weeks crazy strict attendance policy and pay that’s just barely livable. In fact the only way you really make money is OT and lack of the time to spend and enjoy it.

@Judge3366

7 ай бұрын

@@donald8607 it was like that I heard but the container plant I work at is not like that I heard it used to be in fact I had my days of working 12hour six day weeks in stretches but it was only to cover somebody what we do now were I'm at is a 24/7 rotation schedule with gaurunteed off days and every other weekend off and ot is voluntarily don't get me wrong they not perfect but before I started working for them I use to detail cars making 11 an hour now I'm making about 25 an hour and my IP job is easier but they do have they days

@batorbrave7645

7 ай бұрын

Hi can you, guys do R&D on coffee waste to be used in your factories to make cardboards or some other type of paper.

@charlescdt6509

7 ай бұрын

Why not use bamboo? It would grow a hell of a lot faster and get the same results.

Thank you Katie for letting me know that I can put food stained or taped boxes in recycling, or the dreaded plastic window envelopes! You rock!

@rcnhsuailsnyfiue2

2 ай бұрын

I was always taught pizza boxes were a no-no, that was a surprise to find out too

@darnellkestrel9501

Ай бұрын

Yeah there's an issue here... she starts by saying the products in the plant come from local retailers and grocery stores. Which, as I'm sure you can imagine, are different from consumer refuse. She says the process is designed to to remove harmful impurities, which I have no question is true. But then there's a heavily edited statement saying "you can recycle a pizza box," where clearly there was additional words omitted. First, what was said around that statement, and second, is that guidance for consumers, or retailers and grocery stores? There's extensive evidence suggesting that cardboard beyond a certain level of purity just gets shipped somewhere to sit forever because it won't be put in a landfill and it also won't be recycled, instead sitting in sacrificial countries around the world who don't have as much money as the US.

@K177urLeaders

27 күн бұрын

1. You can take tape off as well as those plastic "windows"... if that prevented you prior, then you're just lazy. 2. Food stains would not effect recycling. Never has for cardboard/paper. Plastic is another story.....

@kenmore01

27 күн бұрын

@@K177urLeaders "You can take tape off as well as those plastic "windows"... if that prevented you prior, then you're just lazy." and your point is?

@darnellkestrel9501

15 күн бұрын

@@K177urLeaders To add to the previous comment, "Food stains" are not ultimately about visual things. What you're saying is wrong -- if for example, pizza boxes have a bunch of grease in them, that makes them worthless for recycling. Look it up.

I worked at various IP mills in my career and I would always ask what was the oddest things they would see come out of the recycle bales. Top 3: 1. A straight 4 engine block 2. Manhole covers 3. Bowling pins/Bowling balls

"It's highly productive or highly exploited depending on who you ask." I love that sentence. Also, only 30% of the Wood used by International Paper is certified. That's not much and I would have liked to know more why that is. Keep it up.

@kirkharris8729

7 ай бұрын

Supply & demand is the answer. Until the demand is high, there is no incentive for smaller independent tree farmers like us to go to the trouble to become certified. We see no mills in our area requiring or paying more for trees that are "certified".

@danlorett2184

7 ай бұрын

Literally not required so nobody does it

@tonypurnell7372

7 ай бұрын

@kirkharris8729 is right. There really is no financial incentive for smaller, family landowners to participate in the certification programs - especially when they might harvest timber once/twice in their lifetime. Even larger timber companies have historically opted out of certifying their forests because of all the added paperwork, auditing, and management restrictions. With demand for certified wood increasing overseas, however, these mills will have to start incentivizing suppliers to keep up with demand.

@willieclark2256

7 ай бұрын

It’s definitely highly productive, and not nearly exploited enough. There are millions of acres of unmanaged natural regeneration which is just as terrible for wildlife as a plantation.

@Uneldo7

7 ай бұрын

its because the other 70 percent is 'not certified'

1:36 Alex Singleton is my dad ☺️ I love visiting the paper mill and always loved riding with my dad to visit tree sites and replant trees

@WilliamDye-willdye

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't mind a follow-up video with your dad and the guy who was complaining that tree farms are not forests. Obviously it's complicated (ecosystems always are), but if we accept that some areas should be reserved for natural growth, and other areas will be tree farms, what can we do on the tree farm side to make them more like forests? Would it help much to simply have a certain percentage of trees in a tree farm that are designed to be permanent? Would it be economically viable to plant farmed & permanent trees in suburbia or cropland?

@frigglebiscuit7484

7 ай бұрын

@@WilliamDye-willdye alot of tree farms are actually forests. i have many around me in the south east, and theres wildlife everywhere.

@johnnyceagles

3 ай бұрын

Hes my uncle. I like the fact that hes so experienced but still a total rookie with his hi viz falling off of him. Keep up the good work uncle A !

@jefflinnell8492

3 ай бұрын

Farming trees is the same as vegetable farming , good for the earth and cleaning our air

@tomwallen7271

3 ай бұрын

@@WilliamDye-willdye I would guess that creating smaller slices in a larger farm that are cultivated (annually? Biannually?) so that the area being displlaced in any cut is much smaller area, and then the animals living there would have much more area nearby they can rehome in, rather than massive clear cut farms that displace large numbers of animals simultaneously. Hoping there are some good researchers finding ways to create more biodiverse farms.

I made bales of cardboard at work as well as clothes, what I noticed was if you put enough cardboard on the ends it acts like plywood and holds everything a lot tighter. It's amazing how small and heavy they can get.

@NP-rh3dt

4 ай бұрын

When you think about it plywood and paper are basically the same material it's that paper is thinner and uses smaller fibers

I remember actually looking at cardboard and realising that it's a layer of brown zig zag paper sandwiched between to layers of brown paper. It was in that moment I became impressed.

The view of the wood arranged in a circle is wonderful

Not mentioned in the video is that every box also has an ECT (Edge Crush Test) rating. I was the person who did that testing at the Aurora (Montgomery) Knell Rd. plant IP factory that was Willamette Industries when I started there back in the day.

@notabot3518

3 ай бұрын

very cool!

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

90434 satanic ILLUMINATI . The HEARSTS HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP. Hemp is MORE economical, does not damage Earth or Natural Habitats One HEMP Acre of 6 Weeks is equal to 1 acre of 20 year old Forests. HEMP produces every 6 Weeks. Preserves Mountain Tops. Equal to 20 years, leaving Mountain tops Bare.

I recently bought a couple of products and the packaging was plain cardboard with minimal mono black ink labelling clearly aimed at recycling it's good to see some companies considering the renewablilty of there packaging. I hope more of the big corporates start adopting the same policy. What would be even more ideal is to make it possible to leave packaging at your door so when the delivery drivers come they can take it back to the supplier Amazon should introduce a program. Make it easy to open without damage.

@rayray8687

7 ай бұрын

For obvious reasons you cannot reuse any type of packaging without complete sanitation which of course would be restrictively costly and impractical. The current recycling program available everywhere is by far the best option for paper products.

@ardeladimwit

5 ай бұрын

better question--why are you buying from Amazon which is notorious for human labor exploitation and waste when you should try to buy locally. You're the guilty user.

@rayray8687

5 ай бұрын

@@ardeladimwit: I think I can answer that question - 1/ local unavailability, 2/ infirmity and/or age, 3/ no access to transportation - I’m sure there’s more but that should cover many tens of millions of people. Also, every time a company creates a successful business model - McDonalds, Walmart, Subway, whatever - we hear that same old song and dance about labor exploitation from people who didn’t realize they would be expected to actually do some work when they were hired. Did you know there are States where employers can still legally pay some workers $2.75/hr in one of the world’s wealthiest countries? I earned more than that 50 years ago, so who’s the exploitation enabler here?

@ardeladimwit

5 ай бұрын

@@rayray8687 ooooh, that doesn't actually directly answer why somebody buys off Amazon which is internationally notorious for labor exploitation and is well-documented for it. You can make up as many answers as you please, but somebody who is somewhat conscientious would try to source or buy things locally. It's why US sucks so bad now.

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

5992 satanic ILLUMINATI . The HEARSTS HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP. Hemp is MORE economical, does not damage Earth or Natural Habitats One HEMP Acre of 6 Weeks is equal to 1 acre of 20 year old Forests. HEMP produces every 6 Weeks. Preserves Mountain Tops. Equal to 20 years, leaving Mountain tops Bare.

Great video! I retired from the design/engineering industry where I worked on many “paper mill projects yet I still learned from this video. I’ve always lived in the paper belt…we’re surrounded by pine forests, and I plant about 500 trees a year on my own property. This industry takes a toll on our highways and local roads…I probably have 50-60 loads of pine pass my house daily!

@adampalmer5399

7 ай бұрын

I know, I’ve lived in Alabama my whole life & you can’t go one day without passing a Logging truck & they tear up the roads!

@rrs1550

7 ай бұрын

THATS WHAT THE ROADS ARE FOR...TO BE USED...MADE FROM STONE, AND CARBON...ASS FAULT!

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

Then you know the TRUTH satanic ILLUMINATI . The HEARSTS HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP. Hemp is MORE economical, does not damage Earth or Natural Habitats One HEMP Acre of 6 Weeks is equal to 1 acre of 20 year old Forests. HEMP produces every 6 Weeks. Preserves Mountain Tops. Equal to 20 years, leaving Mountain tops Bare.

@william6534

Ай бұрын

​@@rrs1550 lay off the mich ultra grandpa

Dunder Mifflin is the best paper company in the world

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

Minion paper.

@deletdis6173

7 ай бұрын

Xbox 350 pfp nostalgia

@augieciambriello5746

3 ай бұрын

While they have the resources of a large company, they will give you the care and attention of a small company.

I think this was a great review of recycling and an explanation of where we get our paper products from

@fogg0

7 ай бұрын

Truely. If anything will lead to more recycling of boxes.

Consulting Forester in NC. Pines are thinned (around 45% cut out of a property) around age 15. 100% of this wood goes to the pulp and paper industry. If suitable, the pines can be thinned again around age 24. About 50% of that volume goes to pulp and paper. A final harvest is typically conducted around age 30. About ⅓ of the volume from a final harvest goes to pulp and paper.

My dad was the General Sales Manager for the south east division of IP when I was growing up. He's since past away in 2019 but I have all of his International Paper stuff, coffee mugs, hats, lots of things like that.

Appreciate that you provide a critical note instead of just a commercial for the paper industry.

@beckstheimpatient4135

7 ай бұрын

Not critical enough, though. I feel like there isn't enough of an accent on how dead their tree farms are, how much CO2 they emit (they only present it as one process being BETTER than another, but they don't provide numbers and proper context to understand how damaging the industry if), and they just glance over the chemicals used to remove lignin - what that mix is, how it's secured, etc. And again - they burn chemicals too.

@user-cl9jm7iq2b

7 ай бұрын

@@beckstheimpatient4135 woah slow down there sherlock. If you are soooooo interested you can google it. This is just an educational youtube video on cardboard that provides two different viewpoints. Stop being so critical of something you obviously dont understand and take for granted.

@michaeleldridge5640

7 ай бұрын

@@beckstheimpatient4135 but the trees have stored that carbon their selves over the 30 years of growth. then they are burned and a new set of trees over 30 years will absorb that carbon. so no new carbon is entered into the atmosphere. and all the carbon in the boxes is stored until it goes back into the landfill. It really isn't as bad as you think.

@gePanzerTe

7 ай бұрын

​@@beckstheimpatient4135 Well, environmentalists look like they are never satisfied. And thus playing the game of the Corporations in getting The People used to live under-graded lives with very little improvement in comfort due to so-called shortages. 🤔 Said shortages mainly due to poor management, lack of investment, funding and maintenance. Etc.

@rm4googol930

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@beckstheimpatient4135I bet you have an Amazon prime account. You order and use this stuff just like everyone else. Leftist hypocrisy

The guy is right about the areas being tree farms. We should have designated areas for tree farming separate from forests. The whole process showed and explained in the video is amazing.

@user-zp7jp1vk2i

7 ай бұрын

In the USA tremendous amounts of forest are actually PRIVATELY owned (Lousiana Pacific and Georgia Pacific) OWN massive amounts of forestry in Wash. State, for instance. In Canada, our forest land (Crown) is owned by His Most Royal |Majesty, the King.

@FDCNC

7 ай бұрын

@@user-zp7jp1vk2i Tell your king to come and recover his second son.

@vidard9863

7 ай бұрын

We do. The tree plantations are on private land, planted and managed for the growth of trees for economic use. If you start telling people what they can an cannot do on their land if their land happens to have trees, not only will your paper products get much more expensive but smart land owners will find ways to eliminate those trees to make the land more personally useful.

@emotionalfriendone43

7 ай бұрын

@@user-zp7jp1vk2iyes. We fought a whole war over this.

@margotmccormack7105

7 ай бұрын

@@vidard9863hemp can be used for paper and is much faster and easier to grow

i thought it went trough dunder mifflin... you learn something new every day...

@MrShanester117

Ай бұрын

Yawn

I did a safety internship with IP at their New Bern, NC mill. I loved going everywhere in the mill and seeing the whole process.

Seeing a ramp/lift type machine just effortlessly tip over a 40 foot container + truck filled with cargo at a near 90 degrees. Just blew my mind. Holly crap😮

@zen4men

7 ай бұрын

Me too!

@charlieodom9107

7 ай бұрын

Just don't leave a drink in the cup holder!!!

@AutoBliss

7 ай бұрын

Some truck insurance policies policies won’t cover this too, unless you pay for it.

@zen4men

7 ай бұрын

@@AutoBliss I am not surprised!

@Reno420alex

7 ай бұрын

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one trippin on that 😂. All im wondering is what is holding it from sliding back? Air breaks will keep the wheels from ever spinning but the grip of the tires shouldn't be great enough to do this right? As a truck driver I'm genuinely curious there has to be something holding it. Iv seen trucks slide back breaks fully locked up on much less steep grades

I finally get why Jeff Bezos called his business "Amazon"

@roberthowkins3097

2 ай бұрын

Because everyone of his overwrapped packages makes it smaller ???

@zuo3063

Ай бұрын

Lmao!😂😂😂

My mother works for the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC, the bubbly tree logo on the left at the end) and one of the biggest things they're struggling with in the US is brand recognition. Please take a look for these logos on your paper products, it can seriously make a difference.

@user-jd5sh4rl8d

Ай бұрын

9288 satanic ILLUMINATI . The HEARSTS HEARST owns most Forests in USA, had HEMP made ILLEGAL , The Constitution is written on HEMP. Hemp is MORE economical, does not damage Earth or Natural Habitats One HEMP Acre of 6 Weeks is equal to 1 acre of 20 year old Forests. HEMP produces every 6 Weeks. Preserves Mountain Tops. Equal to 20 years, leaving Mountain tops Bare.

It’s great to hear the South East being talked about when it comes to sustaining the trees because living in Alabama my whole life you can’t go one day without passing a Logging truck & every farm around ours has been logged somewhere in the last 75 years & it can be great for families as long as it’s done right, no clear cutting!💯✅🌲

Man they really cleaned that plant for this video. I worked there for a few weeks years ago during a shutdown and it looked like an environmental nightmare.

@stoundingresults

7 ай бұрын

It's like restaurants getting a notice on Friday that Monday they have a health inspection

@Gubble-oq6dn

7 ай бұрын

Damn you washed out that fast?

@InternetOpinion

Ай бұрын

Real😂

Yes, cardboard and corrugated packaging are different, although they are related and sometimes used interchangeably in everyday language. Here's the distinction between the two: Cardboard Packaging: Material: Cardboard is a generic term that refers to a heavy, thick paperboard or paper-like material. It is often made from paper pulp, which can be single-layered or multi-layered. Appearance: Cardboard is typically smooth and flat on both sides. It can come in various thicknesses and is often used for items like cereal boxes, shoeboxes, or thin packaging. Strength: Cardboard is less durable and less resistant to moisture and damage compared to corrugated materials. It's suitable for lightweight products and short-term use. ------------ Corrugated Packaging: Material: Corrugated packaging is made from corrugated paperboard, which consists of three layers: an inside liner, an outside liner, and a corrugated (fluted) medium sandwiched between them. The corrugated medium is what gives it its distinctive wavy appearance. Appearance: Corrugated packaging has a wavy or ribbed appearance due to the corrugated medium. It is known for its strength and durability. Strength: Corrugated packaging is significantly stronger and more resilient than regular cardboard. It provides better protection for items during shipping and handling. It is often used for shipping boxes, packaging materials, and heavy-duty containers. In summary, while both cardboard and corrugated materials are made from paper and used for packaging, corrugated packaging is a specific type of cardboard that offers increased strength and durability due to its layered, corrugated structure. The choice between the two depends on the specific packaging requirements, with corrugated packaging being the preferred option for heavier or more delicate items that need added protection.

@infinitystudgamer9514

7 ай бұрын

It’s still the same

@Dexerion

7 ай бұрын

Oh that's fair. Thx for the distinction.

@Masterhitman935

7 ай бұрын

Now which one is better sneak into a military based? And on a more serious note, thanks for making the clarification and discrimination of the two. And they used to said nuance is dead.

@TheJttv

7 ай бұрын

You are close but not quite there. Cardboard is what you would use in a board game. Its really really thick paperboard.

@AnasAnas-lv9sk

7 ай бұрын

Chatgpt

I worked for a large life insurance company around 20 years ago. I remember being told that the company was one of the largest owners of timberland in the US because of its long term rate of return as an investment for its life insurance policies.

i work for Voith, a german company producing the papermachines from scratch for every customer. i work worldwide as a service technician and saw alot of paper mills. but i have to say this one here seems quite big. its a very interesting industrie and paper making a very complex procedure

Hemp grows much faster and produces more cellulose per acre. For far cheaper.

@bjorn1583

7 ай бұрын

and that is on e of the reasons why it was made illegal

@capricorndragon6268

7 ай бұрын

I was going to say this. Six weeks and we would have better paper products that last longer. But that makes too much sense. They don't like losing profit. Common sense is not common.

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

Fake news.

@theoregontruckerT880

6 ай бұрын

If that was true then they would be using it instead of trees

@bjorn1583

6 ай бұрын

@@theoregontruckerT880 a shite tonne of rules and regs are why hemp isnt used plus it was made illegal for decades right after they invented a way to mass process the hemp. do some research next time

Its HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE.. I live in a area that is used for paper and the trees I have seen multiple harvesting from many areas. I have seen from day one of the planting to the harvest time. Its a lot shorter than most think as it dont take 30 years it takes like 10 to 15 for it to be usable for paper. Big timber takes a lot longer but the way they do it is harvest out ever other tree for paper then let the others grow much larger till they ready for poles.. THEN there is another round of pine planted between the big timber and hard woods. The whole process repeats and a lot of animals live there and lots of wood comes from it. Our rivers and streams are all healthy and plenty of work for the people around

@justinblin

7 ай бұрын

While that may be true in your area, other places end up clear cut, which kills the ecosystem even if new trees are planted since the animals that are used to the habitat and resources from old mature trees can’t survive on just saplings.

@C0lon0

7 ай бұрын

Is cool to see how paper industry works in other regions, here in Brazil we use eucaliptus for cellulose production as this tree will be ready to harvest after 7 years.

@C0lon0

7 ай бұрын

​@@justinblinin some places wood production is bad for nature, but in places like here, in the Pampa, the largest "forests" you can find are in the eucaliptus farms, as because here we don't have any natural forest, just small clusters of small trees.

@charlesjohnsjr.5809

7 ай бұрын

Depends on the tree. Longleaf was mentioned. It would almost be a sin to use slower growing Longleaf for paper. Use slash and loblolly for pulp. Very little Longleaf left. Makes great lumber.

@capicuaaa

7 ай бұрын

You say that because you're unaware of the tremendous damages large-scale eucalyptus plantations for the paper pulp industry have had on the biodiversity of a whole country.

As a Trucker, I have delivered or picked up all of the stages mentioned and was curious about the large paper rolls, so thank you for explaining it.

I work in the paper industry at the printing company JS McCarthy in Maine. This is a very cool video. I belive International Paper got bought out by sylvamo if I’m not mistaken. My grandfather worked for IP at the mill in Jay Maine. Really cool to see this video for others to see how our paper is made

I used to work at a cardboard factory, used a lot of the same machines as international paper, favorite part was the recycling, every bit of scrap or reject got shredded and remade into paper.

@thissuckslikeanoob637

7 ай бұрын

I love using the hogger

@redbeard7376

7 ай бұрын

It is actually just cardboard. @@OmarRodriguez-vl2tq

@BikeNewLondon

7 ай бұрын

It's OCC, buddy. Get it right. ;)

Not a mention of hemp being cheaper, faster to grow, and making better paper isn't surprising :)

@frigglebiscuit7484

7 ай бұрын

because it takes a shit to more grown to match trees

@delos2279

2 ай бұрын

Yea from what I can see, hemp is better for paper in every way. Better for the environment, 400-1000% more yield per unit land, stronger fiber (more recycling cycles), etc... But illegal because the "war on drugs."

If you work for a big business that ships physical products, you can save your company tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars by having in-house cardboard recycling. our company spent less than 10k on the machinery, but it saves us up to 20 USD per unit sold.

Thank you for bringing this knowledge to us, it makes people like me appreciate the natural materials a lot more ♥

Hemp can replace all cardboard production at a fraction of the land use with a fraction of the water in a fraction of the time

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

That’s exactly the solution for 95% of our paper products. Virgin wood pulp will still likely be preferred for some things though. The only reason it’s not already done on mass(since it’s the most logical and profitable thing) is because of anti-competitive practices from then wood and petrochemical industries. Even if the hemp paper ISN’T recycled(and it can be up to 8 times), it’s still endlessly better for the environment/everyone than recycled wood pulp products.

@KingMertel

7 ай бұрын

@@sjb3460big difference between thc weed and hemp. They could easily do it, they just don’t want to.

@OutsiderLabs

7 ай бұрын

People keep saying this, yet actual research shows it isn't nearly as viable as potheads keep saying it is.

@jkcazy1692

7 ай бұрын

@@OutsiderLabs Wrong. I lost the game.

@donaldroehrig7817

3 ай бұрын

Not yet it can't. It is more expensive to cultivate and manufacture and does not provide the same finished characteristics once finished. I know, because I work in the industry and have done testing with the a well known college that actually teaches paper engineering (yes, that's a thing). It provided a very poor print surface, was hard on the equipment, and provided a much lower quality product. It may become viable in time, but that time is not now.

I do the twice yearly shutdowns at Oji Fibre Solutions Kinleith pulp & paper mill in New Zealand, it was once the largest pulp & paper mill in the Southern Hemisphere, though replacing a lot of the equipment with newer modern technology has since I'm sure relegated that title to another mill. I've always had a fascination with the site and what it does as my family specifically on my fathers side has been doing some sort of work out at that specific site for decades, so to see this video makes me so happy that I will finally be able to share with my friends the scale of industry that pulp and paper products is.

@deepsouth6564

7 ай бұрын

Kinleith was the first mill I worked at. Since then I have worked papermills in NZ, China, Canada, Finland and over 20 states in the USA.

8:08 that's gotta be the most satisfying piece of equipment in the whole facility.

I live in the midst of these tree farms and the wildlife here is abundant. NW Central FL

It's interesting to hear that pizza boxes can be recycled because my down won't take them because of the oil. We're told to put them in the trash.

@mrgw98

7 ай бұрын

It depends on the facilities and their capabilities. I'm sure cost of or challenges of running the required machinery play a part in it. Local municipalities might not be able to afford it all unlike these corporations that specialize in it.

@keithfrazier2558

7 ай бұрын

I worked for a competitor who was 100% recycled for their paper and they could not because of the grease/oil absorbed into the fibers. They wouldn't stick to each other when rolling out the water and would tear out. Their cleaning process with steam/hot water may also have something to do with it. Ours was made into pulp in ambient temperature water(cold/room temperature) which uses less energy and natural resources.

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s the grease. 🤷‍♂️ Best to compost those if you can. Many pizzas I order now actually come with a nice piece of parchment underneath that keeps the grease off the box-and now I’m able to recycle most all of them I get these days.

@jaclynrachellec

7 ай бұрын

I cut off any small parts that have oil and recycle the unsoiled part, then I compost the oily/food contaminated bits.

@peterlarkin762

7 ай бұрын

I cut the greasy bits out and add them to casseroles and soups. You get a lovely hint of pizza and lignum on the pallette. Even ketchup sachets and plastic pots for dips can be collected, and when you have enough add to a pot of simmering mountain dew... Reduce and you get a really delicious glaze for meats and sandwiches.

I had a feeling this was going to be about IP. I prefer their paper products in my design business and in my first job, we supplied accounting software to one of their major locations. Totally professional to work with when they had computer issues, too.

Great video....the public needs to see this video!!!

I worked for I.P. back in the 80's and early 90's. We got criticized constantly by the environmentalists for stripping the forests, but what nobody ever wanted to talk about was how much replanting the company did. You go back to areas that we planted over 30 years ago and you'll see 80-100' trees(pecker poles) that could be ready for reharvest, if not already done so. I.P., Weyerhaeuser, and Bohemia got hammered, and still do by people who don't understand what the companies themselves were, and are doing for reforestation. Schools were even involved in tree planting once a year, and sponsored by the lumber companies, who would hold classes before tree planting so that we knew the correct way to do it(ie spacing, depth, etc). It was something that was looked forward to every year when I was in school. The after the unit, or units were replanted, they would erect a sign just off the road showing when the area was replanted and what year, and by who. When they shut down the plants in the area I lived in, it took the towns around it a few years to bounce back. One thing they made sure to do was clean up and restore the land where the plants and mill stood, after they were taken down. To look at it now you'd never know it was there. I loved my jobs there, and really enjoyed working with the people I worked with. I forgot to say where, we were in the tree hugging Pacific Northwest. Ore, Wash, even Idaho. A lot of us agreed with them on old growth. The trees that we planted in the late 70's on, most of them are still there because the companies moved. I know guys that go around and maintain the signs put up as a matter of pride that we had a hand in the NOW forest that is now still standing.

@lazerblade2

7 ай бұрын

Okay, but did you hear the part about how the monocultured replanted forests are not near as healthy and sequester 40 times less carbon? We need to inform replanting efforts with knowledgeable forestry. We need to leave a few older trees standing and replant with more diversity.

@lutomson3496

7 ай бұрын

and here in the sierra nevada, dead trees arent harvested killed by the bark beetles providing fuel for forest fires, because the environmental idiots and the government would allow it, and look at how well that worked out, they are finally starting to allow, and even the dead trees killed by the fire a lot still stand there ready for another fire,

@sethstoots15

7 ай бұрын

We rent just over 2800 acres in Virginia from Weyerhaeuser. All of our land was Westvaco, then Plumcreek shortly, before being sold finally to Weyerhaeuser. We went from being hardwood forests with plentiful deer/rabbit populations. Westvaco cut all our hardwoods and planted loblolly pine. The only things that grow in the pines are amanita mushroom species and honeysuckles. Our deer population dramatically decreased over the last 20 years. The coyotes have flourished and we have very few rabbits now. The dove also do not fly in the pines like they used to in the more open woods

@ianberlin3214

7 ай бұрын

I appreciate your comment here. I wonder how many people will criticize the paper industry, but then order 3 packages from Amazon that all come on the same day in large oversized boxes and I don't hear much of an outcry about that. Some food for thought.

@alpacaofthemountain8760

7 ай бұрын

What about the animal diversity, the different amounts of plants?

"You can recycle a pizza box" damn bro that hits hard

Pine bark is not just burned for energy; it is also used as a component in potting mixes for gardening or nursery operations.

I worked for one of their competitors. They approach forest management by actually owning the land they harvest from. That way it is guaranteed that they do not use more than what they plant. Their practice is to replant 25% more than they use and the 25% is mixed soft and hardwood trees. If you are wondering who buys those cut over lands from private owners, it is their competitor. They owned enough land in 2012 to manufacture paper board and corregated without depleting even one tree. They manage it by what they will use in a year and the growth rate of the trees. They simple explanation was, they harvest the trees off of 40 acres this year, 25 years from now, they will still be harvesting that same 40 acres of trees because they have been replaced by then. The waste and debark is sold as mulch instead of burned. They also use recycled board in their pulp. They started this program in the 1940's.

@shinobuoshino5066

3 ай бұрын

If you replant 25% more than what you use you end up with overforestation and forest fires that destroy all trees and then you have nothing.

If they stop using land for paper production, it’ll be sold to developers who permanently remove trees and build strip malls or office parks or subdivisions.

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

That’s what generally happens, but it’s not the only option. For greedy people, they’re going to extract whatever they can anyway they can. But that’s generally what happens when capitalists get ahold of any natural resource.

@capicuaaa

7 ай бұрын

@@OddWoz Neo-liberal capitalists, more specifically. :)

@darkbearmoon

7 ай бұрын

A lot of the trees would come from the middle of nowhere respective to where amenities are. It's more likely they would just be left alone or used for agriculture

@OutsiderLabs

7 ай бұрын

@@darkbearmoon "Used for agriculture" meaning all the trees will be removed.

@maalikserebryakov

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@OddWoz your two prophets Stalin and Mao did the same, but with humans. L tankie

IP is a massive corporation, with its fingers in so many aspects of paper its mind boggling. I started my career with them, learned more with them than any other company, and it opened tons of doors later on. Some lifelong relationships were developed there as well, stemming from amazing long term employees and people willing to go above and beyond.

@william6534

Ай бұрын

Yeah hopefully these wonderful corporations are as benevolent as you make them sound

The use of so much virgin fiber for the production of containerboard liner is truly a construct of the Americas (and also Russia). Paper making in Europe is vastly different, heavily reliant on the addition of recycled (recovered) fibres into the production process. This is a result of having ''less'' trees available, in addition to market trends seen at corrugators as well as final consumers. Corrugators are looking for the most cost effective product and final consumers are increasing there requirements for a more sustainable product. Corrugators in the EU source more sustainable products, like KraftTop liner made of 30% virgin pulp and 70% recovered (OCC); Top side Kraft back ''recycled'', the beautiful thing is that Burst (kPa) and SCT values can be even more optimal than 100% virgin liner made in the US and can even be used for duo and tri-wall CCM. The only time Virgin CCM is really used is when packaging carriers for agricultural products like fruits and vegetables that will be in contact with high-moisture environments (like cold storage), Kraftliner (made of 100% virgin cellulose) and Semi-Chem (fluting) are therefor only used when truly necessary and are even replaced with more innovative products making use of barrier treatments against moisture. Great too see the mentioning of papers mills that are fully integrated being nearly self sufficient only having to buy small quantities of external energy on the free market (as well as some other chemicals ie. starch, peroxides or chlorine based bleach for White Top). Biomass and Recovery boilers are great but burning coal to make up for missing energy seems like something from the stone ages... why not use natural gas? IP dominating the US market will inherently dictate the the strategy for the future, unless consumer behaviour changes; thus pushing production into a different direction. They control the majority of boxplants in the US so I don't foresee this changing anytime soon maybe will see some improvements with the merger of Smurfit Kappa and Westrock? In addition, forestry management is far less efficient in the US, in my personal opinion this just comes down to the fast amount of lumber available; resulting in a lack of, or demand for ''more'' sustainable and efficient forestry. Warmer climates (like South America, Africa, Southern Europe and East Asia as well as Oceania) are also far more effective for the production of paper as you can focus on cultivating Eucalyptus, far faster growth cycles than pine and other sorts (10yrs instead of 25-30yrs). Mr Alex Singleton (in the video) is absolutely right with regard to separating forests with commercial purposes from natural ones; and its already being done buy others. Lets also not forget that tree's that are growing consume far more CO2 than tree's that have reached maturity. And to conclude with regard to forestry certifications in the EU, nearly ALL paper sold by mills has to be certified (upwards of 80%), front runners are FSC and PEFC, meaning nearly all wood being consumed is certified as well. At the end of the day consumers and finally law makers dictate the way mills have to operate. @insiderbusiness - Looking forward to seeing more informative episodes about one of the oldest, most required and most sustainable industries in the world to date. Would be great to also get a look into other companies in the paper business - great video! 👍

Fun Fact: Amazon ships an average of 608 million packages each year, which equates to (an estimated) 1,600,000 packages a day. That's a lot of cardboard, even when we consider some of the packaging used may be padded envelopes.

I used to work on a factory just like this in south Brazil, company called Klabin, exactly the same process, except the cleaning, the plant i used to work was absolute clean from the very first part to the end aaaaan we made more energy then we used, so we sell what was left over to the city Strange to see that we in Brazil have a better process, i always though the US had better factorys Also, 100% of the wood used was certified

@echospage

7 ай бұрын

Klabin amazing Euka kraftliner, one of the best products in the world!

@t9056

5 ай бұрын

how did u make energy to sell?what does certified mean?cleanliness doesnt mean better?idk how u could bring in trees and turn into cardboard and be clean from start to finish lol is ur factory just a recycling one or what ...but im glad u guys are taking carfe of the planet for all of us..brazil doing that is vital for all of us

Hemp is not only the solution for sustainable paper production, but also for clothes, insulation and many other products!

@echospage

7 ай бұрын

Hemp will never completely replace cellulose from trees; its just unfortunately not possible.

@theoregontruckerT880

6 ай бұрын

People been saying that for like 60 years. If it was true it would be happening

@perrinromney4555

6 ай бұрын

Although hemp would be a non native species fully replacing native forests with farmlands and require much higher annual labor rates to maintain, while limiting the production only to full scale farming operations, thereby corporatizing land ownership even more.

6:07 Here in UK our councils say we cannot put pizza boxes in recycling, even pizza boxes from store freezers where the pizza is shrink wrapped and doesn't touch the cardboard, if spotted in our bins we get a sticker on the bin and it won't be emptied that week.

The land we own in Idaho was clear-cut by the Harris Brothers years ago. It's absolutely gorgeous today. Ravens, black bears, and elk are our closest neighbors.

My cat asked me to thank you all for your hard work

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

I 👍 fried cats. They taste very good.

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

My cat doesn't talk yet. Why?

My Engineering buddies in 1995 oversaw the zero pollution upgrades to the three pulp mills in BC Canada: Fletcher-Challenge (New Zealand), Crown Zellerbach (USA), and MacMillan-Bloedel (Canada). All material goes into the mix, all is used. So the pallets, shrink wrap, evreything must be in the soup!! And the price of boxes tripled for the consumer. We sold all the old mill stuff to that billionaire Chinese lady and shipped it to China. Mills in Dryden, Fort Frances, and Thunder Bay Ontario closed forever.

@raiden72

7 ай бұрын

China will own everything thanks to their economic slaves working for $1 an hour

As someone who grew up in the southeastern pines, one of the reasons it's 20% of our paper and pulp products is because it's private land. The west is home to the largest percentage of federal land in the US and many of its forest grow longer because of it.

@colts.5837

3 ай бұрын

Literally just got to the spot in the video that mentions this lol

@penelopelgoss2520

Ай бұрын

The northwest used to be our biggest producer of trees, but this video was about the southeastern states. Interesting.

Excellent! I've learned so much from watching this. Well presented.

Gotta love how the idea of decreasing consumption or finding alternatives to such an energy and resource intensive process isn't even considered in the realm of possibility in these videos.

@kezia8027

7 ай бұрын

what do you mean infinite growth isn't sustainable?? Get off that beta mindset and pillage the earth for every scrap you can take like the true alphas of the world

@orangeyewglad

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, whatever happened to hemp?? But the truth is that most deforestation is a result of consuming animals, as the land it takes to raise domestic animals constitutes the vast majority of agriculture, and the largest contributor to deforestation, by far, is agriculture. So there is something that people need to decrease their consumption of, but that would make people really lose their minds screaming about "mah freedom".

@noticer3721

7 ай бұрын

@@orangeyewglad Literally zero forests have been "deforested" due to agriculture around me. Most domestic farms like ranches are on flat plains due to large grazing areas lol. You should ask yourself why there are no state funded orchards or why the state goes around and cuts them out of forests.

@danlorett2184

7 ай бұрын

@@orangeyewglad The whole "everyone should go vegan" thing is just class warfare. Rich people want you to eat gruel while they shop at Whole Foods. Also cardboard is incredibly efficient, very recycled, and it uses... trees, which are an infinitely renewable resource. So your complaints aren't about "efficiency", your complaints are "man they're doing a lot of stuff and I've decided that's bad for the environment." Take that attitude and go live in the forest by yourself.

@Vermhatwormhat819

7 ай бұрын

@@orangeyewgladperhaps you should decrease your consumption

Reforestation is great however as an incoming environmental scientist the processes of harvesting a forest nukes the local soil in a way were it won’t be able to return to its old consistency/quality for thousands of years

@NoNORADon911

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a job for fauci/gates/trump totally safe operation warp speed vaxs

@jacobwhitfield5885

7 ай бұрын

Which is why dedicated tree farms, loblolly or slash plantations, are valuable. Instead of "nuking" the soil here, there, and everywhere, the soil is only disturbed once every 15-30 years, over and over and over again in the same spot. It's not as bad as normal industrial agriculture fields; heavy equipment only enters a given timber stand acreage maybe 4-5 times over 30 years. Herbicides may only be used once or twice over that same time frame. I would wager over 95% of current timberlands were once heavily abused agricuture fields, and the local nutrients were burned through in 50-100 years, and left abandoned/fallow. And then pine trees started to grow in, because pines are very tolerant to poor soil conditions (draughty sandy soils, or poorly rained mucks, and nutrient depleted due to intensive agriculure practices during the 1800s and 1900s).

@blahblah9741

7 ай бұрын

"As an incoming environmental scientist, I know nothing about forestry or soils but will act like an expert" Man you are perfect for your field.

@KailuaChick

7 ай бұрын

People always forget about the soil. It’s very neglected, especially in the US.

@C0lon0

7 ай бұрын

Most eucaliptus farms in my region use fertilizers to not reduce the productivity and herbicides are not allowed to be used.

Fantastic article that merely scratches the surface of the extensive recycling and upcycling efforts within a modern paper mill. For instance, black liquor isn't just burned; it's also used to produce black liquor soap, which is refined into tall oil rosin for various products. While the 30% figure for sustainable forestry practices may seem low, it's a vast improvement from the near 0% when I began my career in the mid-90s. Achieving 30% in 30 years signifies a significant commitment and progress in the forest's lifecycle. Moreover, it's noteworthy that 60% of the liner board and corrugated medium now originate from recycled or sustainably managed fiber sources. Can more be done? Absolutely, but let's acknowledge the substantial progress that has already been made. :D

It's amazing, all the tiny details that go into all of our societies world wide that most people will never realize...

0:02 My very first thought seeing that was, that'll make a heck of a bonfire!

Check with your local recycler whether you can recycle cardboard with grease or food, like pizza boxes. Most places cannot process that

@erichoffmann2453

7 ай бұрын

Pizza boxes can be composted (curbside composting in our town)

@glennsilva2631

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking just that. My town says NO PIZZA boxes with any sort of grease stains. Yet the lady in the video said pizza boxes were fine even with food in them. If everything gets pulped wouldn't any impurities be filtered out? Confusing to say the least. I won't be paying a fine at my local level for trying to recycle something that can though. Mixed messages...

@frigglebiscuit7484

7 ай бұрын

@@glennsilva2631 dont bother. its a pita to do oily cardboard.

To the people whining about sustainability: I've been working plots like these my entire life here in Maine. For every tree cut, 4 more are planted on the previous piece of land that was harvested. Once the trees begin to mature they are thinned out, keeping the straightest, healthiest trees to continue growing. By the time that land is ready to be harvested again, we will have planted literally millions of trees to replace that acreage.

this was an incredible episode very enjoyable

cardboard is awesome ... it houses two out of three persons in Seattle ,Portland ,Los Angeles and New York !!!

lot of places to make improvements in the industry, but hopefully theyre making steady progress

Trees are an abundant renewable resource and there are more trees today than there were 150 years ago

I work operate a Bobst die cutter, holy the fact that he just summed up the insane complexity of cutting the boxes as "they get cut" is baffling to me lmao. It gets insanely difficult run thin flutes and make sure ur trim doesnt get all caught up. So much intense work, good job on the video tho super informative.

I’ve hauled tractors full of used cardboard in to these facilities many times and finally know why it smelled like sulfur

I ran a cutter for almost ten years and I done more clear cuts than anything and there's nobody being actually paid to keep the woods going in the right direction,its a very large and old industry and the ones truly making the money have been lobbying since the beginning of this country so its a big problem

@NO-background-music-in-videos.

7 ай бұрын

a cutter is like the guy that rides the garbage truck.. They dont know much but they do know where the stink is coming from. Not sure where you worked but around here they must bond the land use with replanting. The money to replant and inspect to only get what they are allowed is done upfront. So there is no blind spots going in. The cutters do the work and the haulers get it out.

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536

7 ай бұрын

Fake news.

@frigglebiscuit7484

7 ай бұрын

bullllshit.

Southwest Missouri is also in that edge! They just didn't included that's where I live by

I work as a packaging Engineer. I have had troubles with recycled corrugate because it is more expensive and not as good quality. I do packaging for heavy equipment though so I need to use higher grade stuff to prevent damages. Scrapping damaged product with inadequate packaging can sometimes be worse for sustainability and the environment then using unrecycled packaging.

@OddWoz

7 ай бұрын

Hemp paper and hemp cardboard. It’s the solution. It’s better jobs too. Doesn’t ever stop producing, doesn’t decimate the area, and uses less land. Hemp paper is really the gold standard and always was. There’s no reason we should be felling old growth trees just for toilet paper when there are far better options. The only reason we don’t already and quit using it to begin with is because of anti-competitive practices and prohibition.

@frigglebiscuit7484

7 ай бұрын

nope, not true.@@OddWoz

I'm glad they try to reduce and reuse as much as they can! I wonder if companies who rip down trees to build a development or something sell the trees to this or similar companies, as opposed to just taking them to the landfill? And what happens to all of the branches they take off of the trees when logging? I hope they get reused efficiently and effectively. And I'm glad forests in Maryland are doing better! One step forward, right?

@michaeleldridge5640

7 ай бұрын

branches are left on the site to decompose. in pine forests the branches don't have much mass

@peterrose5373

7 ай бұрын

It depends on how big the trees are. they can get sold for lumber, paper, firewood or mulch. (pretty much in order of size.) Taking them to a landfill would cost money, so that would be unusual. Burning the slash in place is more likely. but even that would be throwing money away, unless they're in a big hurry.

@BangBangBang.

7 ай бұрын

Emily, if you need an example look up Wildlight Florida. Rayonier, a land company, sold a few thousand acres near the FL/GA border to build a whole new area. Rayonier also operates a paper mill. Leftover bark from pine trees being debarked are often taken to a landfill to use as a landfill cap because it decomposes. Also you can take that bark, the branches and smaller trees to run through a drum grinder which makes an almost mulch consistency. I used to work for a foreign wood chip company that took wood chips from paper mills thats not good to make paper products and exported them overseas via a ship. 40,000 metric tons loaded 6-8 sometimes 10 times a year so thats about half the size of the 100,000 ton pile on this video

@tonypurnell7372

7 ай бұрын

For trees that are harvested during land development, 99% of the time they are sent to sawmills and other facilities to produce lumber, OSB, cardboard, poles and other wood/paper products. Any branches, leaves, unmerchantable trees, and other "slash" from harvesting are left behind so that those nutrients return to the soil when decomposed, and reduce soil erosion from rainwater. I've never heard of trees going to a landfill after being cut.

@joshmann3399

7 ай бұрын

Every bit of the tree is used- Pine: the tree is de-limbed, then, based upon size used for lumber or to make pulp. The limbs and any remaining portion are then run through a chipper, which produces a small woodchip which the mills use for fuel inside the mill itself, or some power plants will utilize it to make electricity for the grid. Hardwoods: Used for either lumber or chips.

they have removed most of the recycling centers out of Colorado!!!! So I use this as compost , turn these into worm castings for my garden

The way they lifted that semi vertically is insane @0:53

I'm not so sure what she said about the "myth" that pizza boxes with grease on them is right. The recycling center I take my recycling to does not accept them. They also don't accept cardboard with any glossy finish or coating which I've seen on some pizza boxes. I used to work an hour north of where I live and the recycling service there had the same rules.

@brandongaines1731

7 ай бұрын

I'd sooner trust someone with experience doing the actual recycling than a collection company whose sole purpose is to repackage the recyclable material and sell it to industries....

@kirkharris8729

7 ай бұрын

The rep speaking at the mill might not have been speaking for the entire industry. It might be that her specific mill, with a limited radius of gathering, has the "proprietary" process to enable this.

@GORT70

7 ай бұрын

That’s probably an outdated center. The Japanese figured out a ways back how to deal with that.

@danlorett2184

7 ай бұрын

It depends on the equipment of your local recycling center. I live in a pretty rural place so we don't even have recycle for residential customers. Only businesses recycle up here.

@tippy651

7 ай бұрын

@@brandongaines1731 It maybe true for the one she's at but the center I take mine to has signs up stating they won't take them.

So besides an actual sustainable way of forestry we need to be as efficient as possible on the consumption paper. So either reusing it as is or trying to use less paper for packaging. For one I don‘t understand why e.g. amazon is using only a handful of box sizes so they end up shipping a lot of air and on top fill that empty space with some cushioning which might also made of paper or some kind of polymere. So I think that sustainable packaging should also mean efficient consumption of these resources.

@blah-po9et

7 ай бұрын

Amazon has over 30 box designs, the problem comes with standardization, if you have 300 diffrent box types you need space to store enough of each so you cant run out of a single type, thats a fairly big warehouse, plus most paletizers can only handle a fairly specific size range of box so youd need alot more of those, and I dont know what system amazon uses to place items in boxes but I doubt it can handle size variation without retooling it every time you change box sizes.

@MidwestBoom

7 ай бұрын

I beg to differ if anything paper is The one thing we can use I would be more concerned about All the one time plastic use b*******Then I worried about using a little bit of paper here and there paper biodegrades and is one of the most recyclable materials on the planet.

I remember riding on cardboard down dray hilly fields. It was like being on a snow sled in the summer. Great fun!

"...either means it's highly productive, or highly exploited, depending on who you ask." The third option is: highly efficient. In my opinion it's probably a mix of the three, (the US's pulp and paper industry,) though highly exploited seems undeniable.

They should link up with Dunder Mifflin

Kinda felt like an add for them at times

@SadBoys.1996

7 ай бұрын

Almost like it was meant to

@YllaSjofn

7 ай бұрын

What should they do different so that you don't feel that way?

i worked with picop ( paper industries corp of the philippines ) in the 70's....international paper ( ipco) was then a partner of picop...i am familiar with everything this video is talking about...the mill then was in a 50+ has located in bislig bay surigao del sur in mindanao...we had 2 machines then...a newsprint & a container board machines producing about 200 tons each a day...they operated woth no let up 24/7....they stop operatin* only during maintenance...

Gives good insite..Thanks a lot.

I don't think they need to keep watering those trees... they look pretty dead to me 💁‍♂

@danielphung369

7 ай бұрын

Water so that it won’t be a fire hazard during hot days

Gee i wish there was a plant that could replace wood for paper... oh wait its illegal... (hemp)

@rodolforomero7039

7 ай бұрын

Hemp was legalized in the 2018 Farmer’s Bill…

@jonahsemyonov9985

7 ай бұрын

Hemp paper is a good idea, but it would take a lot of changing equipment to convert mills to using hemp pulp

I am 1 minute into this and I gotta say I always astonished of the machines behind the machines. Unique machines built for very specific purposes in a very defined process. Just don't see this often.

I worked for international paper once , bunch of boxes with big machines , sometimes they would make boxes so small that they wouldn’t fit on certain machines so we had to add glue to keep them together by hand … and yes it’s cardboard, literally

This was so interesting and great to see and understand the process of making paper and associated products. It’s also good to see that this company thinks about the product it is making and the environmental impact of that. I still don’t like seeing any deforestation take place anywhere but understand that many peoples’ livelihoods depend on these paper products and that all has to come from somewhere. 😊

@thissuckslikeanoob637

7 ай бұрын

You’re welcome 😁

Really informative piece. I wish it was longer and I wanted to hear more about can we reduce our use of cardboard as well. So many times Amazon, Staples, or Walmart as examples of retailers, send me items in oversized boxes. This adds up in terms of the volume of boxes that ultimately need to get recycled. I was also hoping we could come up alternative packaging materials to paper boxes, since as this piece says, population growth, increasing shipment demands, and the fact that the boxes an only be recycled about 7 times, means we're still heavily reliant on cutting down substantial numbers of trees to meet demand. The replanting of trees helps but it doesn't sustain the ecosystems or the natural habitats, water filtering, etc of natural, untouched forests, so there is plenty of work to be done. I hope @insider Business does a follow up piece on this in the future.

@Potatismjolner

7 ай бұрын

The one thing people have to do if they wish to reduce cardboard/paper consumption is to consume less goods.

@kamlong7358

7 ай бұрын

Getting a proper size box takes longer, it's easier to just grab an oversized box when your employment is based on how many orders you fill