For anyone else struggling to identify them : Jess, 28 - host -> pink and dark blue striped shirt Jamie, 30 - protector -> glasses and yellow sweater Jake, 27 - protector, Jamie's brother -> hair up, black sweater with white stars Ed, 32 - Jamie's husband -> hair bow with skulls Ollie, 17 - Jamie and Ed's son -> dark t-shirt, no makeup I discovered your chanel a few month ago but I still have a hard time identifying everyone, especially because it skips pretty fast between you all... Love your videos btw !

@mathilded367

4 жыл бұрын

@@papongpapong1047 Hey ! Thanks for that ! I just wrote what they introduced themselves as (as well as the family relationships because I noticed Ollie saying "Uncle Jake" and "my dad") The question "who is the most protective ?" was indeed answered as "everyone in their own way" by one or two !

@ember2441

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😆

@onnalynn7004

4 жыл бұрын

After a while youll be able to identify them all. Ive been watching them for over a year now and i LOVE them. One of my fave channels on YT cause they are just so real, normal humans not putting on a show. It took me a few months but now i can tell them apart 98% of the time even if they dont say who it is instantly or have their special clothes on lol.

@onnalynn7004

4 жыл бұрын

After a while youll be able to identify them all. Ive been watching them for over a year now and i LOVE them. One of my fave channels on YT cause they are just so real, normal humans not putting on a show. It took me a few months but now i can tell them apart 98% of the time even if they dont say who it is instantly or have their special clothes on lol.

@kaitlin5193

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

q:who’s the most feminine? everyone *collective giggling knowing the answer*

@abracadabra2395

4 жыл бұрын

For Ed: gender expression is a social construct and the reason everyone picked you is because you're so fabulous that you exceed the social constructs assigned you by society. 😊

@miki4251

4 жыл бұрын

jaxosaurus sex is biological and refers to genitals. gender and the expression of it, is a social construct because it's how a society views how should be and behave someone based on their sex, and therefore, their biological assigned gender. (thought their gender identity may change, and it's completely valid and ok)

@abracadabra2395

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaxosaurus5383 I am aware; just typed too quickly. Will edit comment.

@abracadabra2395

4 жыл бұрын

@@miki4251 Gender identity and gender expression are both specific pieces of the larger concept of gender. I wasn't specific enough in my post and jaxosaurus was correct. I was referring to expression as the OP stated "feminine" (expression) rather than "woman" (identity), but it is important to be clear here, because TERFs use the general "gender" to invalidate trans folks by stating that the whole thing is a social construct. While it appears none of us seem to have intended that, I'm glad I had the option of editing my post.

@lorapridham3310

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan 1234 I would have picked Jess, because she’s softer... less make-up, softer voice, and to me that’s more feminine. Ed definitely has his feminine side though. 🙂

Can we please get a video comparing the alters handwriting? I find it so fascinating how different they all are, and think it would be super interesting to maybe get a handwriting expert to analyze how the personalities affect the handwriting

@carmenq7339

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i was comparing their handwriting throughout the whole video even just a comparison, maybe handwriting expert's a bit much, idk

@karinvanlinde4847

4 жыл бұрын

missmississippi16990 I agree. I would love to see each of them submit a text to an analyst, and see if that person can figure out they’re a system (see comparisons). Btw, Ed is left handed, the rest is right handed

@Mel-me9sw

4 жыл бұрын

In this video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHpttKuIprPRmpM.html&pbjreload=10) starting at 8:15 Jamie talks about how he had to take notes in Jess' lecture one day and compares their handwriting and discusses it a bit. That's pretty much all I could find that wasn't a passing remark.

@thehoobidiboosystem1721

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5qEzY-hoq2_pbw.html About 34:05 Jess shows the boys' handwriting.

@aguamiel2349

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I was so sick when I noticed they had the same handwriting! I thought they would have the same one cuz the body already had like muscle memory and that kind of thing, but apparently I was wrong. It is so interesting to think about that

I've noticed that Ed always gets the problems with these videos. Can't record screen and face at the same time, pen's run out, have to do multiple takes, etc. Poor Ed!

And Ed has yeeted the board on question 2 🤣😂

@vallybae7827

4 жыл бұрын

No Fs were given that day.

@fairytailgirl123

4 жыл бұрын

He probably was last to record

@MultiplicityAndMe

4 жыл бұрын

It was his fourth attempt too 😂 for some reason every time Ed recorded the audio didn’t record alongside him! He’s not the most tech savvy 🙈 in the end, he recorded his audio on the phone

@annabananabones08

4 жыл бұрын

@@MultiplicityAndMe why am I giggling? 😂 That's so cute to imagine. Poor Ed🤣

@20Unbelievable06

4 жыл бұрын

MultiplicityAndMe fourth? oh my gosh, bless him for trying so hard for us! 💜

I can't remember if i've commented on another video the same thing, but i *love* how whoever is out, whatever they're doing, without fail, the cat walks past they say "hello Iris"

@cyanbenjamin8338

3 жыл бұрын

I love that too

For a second I thought "wow they have a lot of whiteboards", then I remembered that they all share the same body omfg.. :D

@fionagrantham-davis7879

4 жыл бұрын

For over half of the video, I thought they filmed in different rooms... I saw Jake in a bedroom, Jess in a living room, Ed in a kitchen, Ollie in a bedroom and Jamie in an office. They're all clearly sat in the same place, but the light changes, different outfits and obviously alters, made my brain put them in rooms I apparently found most fitting? I guess?

@yathome5596

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@littlewarp

2 жыл бұрын

@@fionagrantham-davis7879 oh wow

@MultiplicityAndMe

Жыл бұрын

I’m 30 😩

@MultiplicityAndMe

Жыл бұрын

@@nothingemo my self gratification definitely doesn’t lie on KZread - I have a very rewarding job and a beautiful little family - I’m not sure why you’d assume that I’m suddenly bored of my real life but sure

Starting an official petition for Ed to start a podcast! We need that 30min - hour long of him discussing every topic possible 🙌🏼, inviting people, hilariously cursing at everything and just being freaking awesome

@all_is_well_Mara

4 жыл бұрын

Kota Mundaca yes please 😂

@MinimumGnome

4 жыл бұрын

Yesssss! Love me some Ed rants and opinions.

@Kimothyroll

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ehdizzzle

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@TamaraKobue

4 жыл бұрын

Yasssssssss

just realized while watching this that jamie's voice is a lot deeper than everyone else's

@annalu313

4 жыл бұрын

Ed's voice is also very deep... but maybe more in a feminine way...!? 😋 Love them all!

Ed talking about how Jake is a massive nerd and then “and my son learned it from him so THANKS” 😂

I love Ollie’s personality ☺️ And I think it’s sweet how he says “dad” and “uncle jake” -Scarlett 💕

@ember2441

4 жыл бұрын

@Honey Mochi Yeah I guess, but I just thought he would call them by their names 🤦🏻‍♀️😅

@lj0727

2 жыл бұрын

@@ember2441 those are their names to him. What young boy calls their dad and uncle by their first names? None lol they call them dad and uncle. 🤷🏻‍♀️

two minutes in and ed is done with it already

@all_is_well_Mara

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan 1234 Ed and his pen 😂 Cracks me up every time I watch this 😂

@eeiity8600

4 жыл бұрын

how was this commented a week ago- was this live-streamed?

@vanillaa_spice460

4 жыл бұрын

@@all_is_well_Mara ikr

@Ryan-ci6ni

4 жыл бұрын

ᔕEᖇEᑎᗪIᑭITY i’m a patreon so i got early access

@gjean2875

3 жыл бұрын

I love Ed 🤣🤣🖤

Jamie is such a dad talking about how sweets will rot Ollie’s teeth lol

“You made this Ollie’s dream come true!” Ugh my heartttt 💕😩

@gjean2875

3 жыл бұрын

Omgggg!! I just adore his little cute self 😍😍

It's so crazy what the human brain can do, i mean look at their handwrittings, THEY'RE DIFFERENT!!! And yet there are a few people whom are gonna be saying that this is fake... DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO ''FAKE'' A FRIGGIN HANDWRITTING??? Goshh, i can't even write decent capital letters... Like omg, anyways i feel like this video is my fav out of all

@keetyalexx

4 жыл бұрын

Aldo Paulino I can write in both print and cursive but beyond that changing my handwriting is next to impossible. I can write like a child with my left hand but that’s about it.

@applelemonhead3345

4 жыл бұрын

Also, pretty sure Ed is left-handed

@aldopaulino5223

4 жыл бұрын

@@keetyalexx Same here mate!

@Eli_Opal

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ed is the only left handed one in the system and he obviously just is left handed. You can tell by the hand writing it’s not someone pretending. Ollie’s handwriting is amazing. Jamie’s got doctors handwriting. Like they’re so individual

@TheIndigoSystem

4 жыл бұрын

I have 13 alters, all different handwriting lol

This was absolutely a joy. And the editing was bomb. This had to have taken FOR EVER but the final product is flawless. -Wyn

@karenmcnally5431

2 жыл бұрын

Who does the editing?

Jamie has a bad case of doctors handwriting XD

@dylancole1910

4 жыл бұрын

D'Asia Funches oh yeah I agree😆

Less than 2 minutes and Ed is soooo done already 🤣 love you guys so much, you give me hope for the future

4:41 the difference in the laughs blow my mind

"Imagine me arresting you, seriously babes?" 🤣

*dreamy sigh* I have such a crush on Jake. He's so vibrant. And Jess is just such a lovely odd duck; exactly the sort of person I'd love to be friends with!

@masquerademage

4 жыл бұрын

I swear I could fall in love with Jake. He's such a sweet, lovable dork and has such a cheerful personality. ❤️

@sharpequeen

3 жыл бұрын

Biggest. Jake crush. Right here.

Jamie, Ollie, and Jake are sleeping on the inner world couch tonight lol

My alters representation is pretty close to yours and its allways helpful to watch this as it reminds us we are not alone.

@darkriver1988

4 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Lewin thank you so much!

@darkriver1988

4 жыл бұрын

@@nlslanker thank you so much for this. I try to be as authentic as possible with talking about my experiences. Funny enough I was considering shutting down my channel as I didn't think I was "real" enough. I need to remember not to compare.

Hands down Ed is my favorite don't get me wrong all of them are totally amazing but Ed is just freaking awesome

@OLALALA1019

4 жыл бұрын

Bethany Miller lmfao question 3 how he held it up middle finger and all hilarious LOVE ed

Jess, you're the one who runs this yt channel and i know people are so intrigued with the other alters in the comment section. So Just letting you know that you're a special little cutie pie and you deserve the world

I really want to play the audio for each of you talking to my friends and ask them to guess everyone’s accents and if they are feminine or masculine sounding 😂 because you all sound so different it’s amazing that all of those tones are coming out of the same body, as a wannabe voice actor I’m really impressed

@MultiplicityAndMe

4 жыл бұрын

Thinking Out Loud ooo if you do let us know the result 😄

@ThatOneLadyOverHere

4 жыл бұрын

It's so crazy how their voices sound so natural. Especially when comparing to a lot of trans people who struggle with that or only have a natural sounding voice because of hormones. Yet these alters just naturally sound like the correct gender.

Ollie is 17?! No way! Sorry if that sounds weird, I have been a follower of your for a while so he is still the dinosaur loving little boy that everyone wants to adopt in my mind! 💜

When Iris said hello to Ollie, I wondered if the animals of the household ( can’t remember names of the top of my head) react differently to different alters... Like if they have a favorite alter, or an alter they avoid ;) Cats especially have very specific people they like, and dogs know who they can get to do anything for them - so just wondered if that was anything you had payed attention to?!? ;)

@NicholeRose_is_a_cat

4 жыл бұрын

Mine do, my newest kitten can like sense when I'm not me and hes only really bonded with me and one alter so the other two he runs from. Hes warming up to my protector but the 4th one doesnt come out much anymore so when she does he freaks out a bit, shes pretty different from all of us. I have a "little one"and the cats adore her. My 2yr old car has kinda been around a lot of different types of people overall so he loves everyone, sweet sweet boy.

@sabinahertzum9728

4 жыл бұрын

Nichole.Rose - thats one aspect I think a lot of people never think of when talking about systems - but it makes sense to me - I mean - mannerisms, voice, reactions and stuff like that changes with each alter, and animals are really observant to that....

@sinhalite

4 жыл бұрын

my dog is an angry chihuahua and she only really lets a few of those in our system actually pet her, so I do think pets are pretty perceptive when it comes to that

@wolfhowlmeow1891

4 жыл бұрын

Great question!

@Zelda00Gamer

4 жыл бұрын

Sabina Hertzum I think they mention in one of their live streams that the dogs react differently. I think they liked Ollie quite a lot

I love how 3 out of the 5 of you referred to the protective question as being a trick question.

Jake's voice sounds so familiar. Like, almost painfully familiar. How the heck. Also Ollie's laugh is amazing. I would kill to protect that laugh

@des8162

4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT!!

@PunkieTheGreat

4 жыл бұрын

He sounds like the voice of simba from the lion king

@EmeraldAshesAudio

4 жыл бұрын

@@PunkieTheGreat I was thinking Ash from Pokemon.

@feeltherain1319

3 жыл бұрын

Jake sounds like he could perfectly synchronize movies. His voice reminds me a bit of Elspeth Eastman. She's also a voice actor and a gamer. I love Jakes voice

Cute how Ollie says “oh my days” like Ed lol

I really want to sit down and socialise with every alter. I want to have a wine tasting, gossipy chin wag with Ed. I want to disscuss philosophy and ehtics with Jamie. I want to write songs and "jam" with Jake. I want to play video games with Ollie. And I want to have a play date with Jess, Gaz and our babbas lol Your whole family are my perfect perfect friendship group!! Love you all. You are doing amazing work and inspiring so many. much love x

everyone's reaction to the who's the most feminine question was hilarious

I loved seeing everyone's different handwriting. Highly anticipated video. Loved it 😊

Almost everyone: *excited to play the game* Ed: "My pen's run out after so many attempts at doing this shitty video." 😂

When y'all describe ed in this it sounds a lot like my girlfriend, a similar kind of scaring people off with walls etc but a heart of gold and so much cuteness and love underneath

its kinda crazy that most of the time everyone says the same thing, but then i remember that all of them are parts of one personality/ person so it makes sense they all think or have similar thoughts. and i find that very interesting

@ellutag

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's also because they know each other quite well and has done for a lot of years

@jerrypie1230

4 жыл бұрын

they're not really "parts of one personality", they're all their own personality. they just share one brain and body. but they all have their own memories and consciousness. it's more that they know each other really really well since yk, they are forced to spend a lot of time with each other because they share one body.

@boywiththebread101

4 жыл бұрын

Jerrypie sorry, I might not of used the right words, I’m probably wrong, but my thinking was because did are when because of trauma the individual compartmentalises by having the ‘personality’ split that all of the boys are little bits of Jess, so that might be why the think they same. (Also im not trying to explain did you, I was just trying to show my thinking :)

Ollie being so excited for the 100K plaque warmed my heart, and the rest of video kept that going!

Ollie is just the sweetest young man! I love how proud he is of his dads and how proud they are of him. You can really tell that the system is a loving family all around.♥️

@masquerademage

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly Ollie is _such_ a sweetheart. 💙

I've been following the channel for a long time and I still can't get over the fact one can immediately tell who it is just by their facial expressions, Insane, it truly shows how different people are. Once again thank you for letting us get to know you all, wonderful video!

its crazy to me how dissosiaDID has 700k and this channel only has 100+k ( thats still a LOT of people dont get me wrong, ) this channel is so underrated. great videos.

This feels so nostalgic to me because I remember following you guys back when Ollie was just a little boy before the channel restarted. It's so cool to see how everyone has grown!

I’m so happy and proud to see how far this channel has come!! The impact you guys have had on so many people is incredible! Thank you for all the hard work you put in ❤️ Also, all of your handwritings are so nice?? Ollie’s cursive is so pretty!

I found your 360 videos before I saw any other ones and honestly it helped me see exactly who each alter was each time you switched. You captured them so well in that video now that I’m seeing this! I’m sure that took a lot of energy but compared to the crazy stuff happening on KZread now this is such an amazingly interesting Chanel to me

It's fascinating how different all your alters are. Like they all talk differently, have different personalities, different handwriting. I love uou guys.

It's 4am where I am in the USA and I can't sleep, so I'm so glad you posted this awesome video. Your channel is one of my favs! Love you all ❤

Heyo! Im so proud of you and all your alters. Your at a place that i cant even imagine myself getting to and im so proud. Im the same age as jess and struggle with PTSD and DID. I could never begin to explain how proud i am of your progress. (Im not here to start a "pity party", but) I have a hard time accepting my alters and struggle with hating them. Seeing someone embrace and cherish them is so rewarding to me. (I also absolutely love jake) You give me a sense of hope that had faded in me. Thank you.

Thank you so much all of you for taking the time to make, edit and upload this. It's so good to see all of you - I really enjoy the high level of understanding you all have of who you are and your place in the system, and the love you have for each other. Xo

Q: who's the most feminine everyone else: *giggles Ed: *glares because he knows what everyone's gonna say jess: it me :)

It’s so amazing to me that one of you guys have an American accent! I’ve watched a bunch of other informative DID channels and yours is the first I have ever seen with that big of and accent range. Absolutely awesome! You guys sure know eachother very well and are all so funny haha I’m glad I found your guises channel!

Thank you for putting this out early guys! I wanted it to be a gift for the first of the month but I dont even think I could wait another day- we really needed this today. So great to see and get to know you all even better! BIG CONGRATS to 2 MILLION VIEWS in the first Meet The Alters vid!! Love to you all! 💕💕💕

I'm so happy Ollie was in this one! I could watch videos of you talking about one another all day. The pride and admiration for each other just radiates in everyone's faces and voices. You can't fake that. Thank you for making me smile 😊

I just have a question; how do you all agree on your hair? (colour, length etc) love your channel!!

@theductductgoose

4 жыл бұрын

I can tell you right now that hair decisions are controlled by Ed. He's obsessed with making the body look nice. Once time Jess colored her hair without asking Ed, he was furious, mostly because he thought it was hideous.

@Kordiana

4 жыл бұрын

I think they posted a video on how they make decisions, and if I remember correctly they sorta have a council on certain decisions.

Ollie's loopy handwriting is so precious. It's crazy to see how much he's changed over the years!! a true teen!

it was so great seeing everyone again! thanks guys! love y'all

This was so fun, I love all of you, and congratulations on 100,000 subs and you're already on your way to 150,000 and I know you will reach more. Seriously, all of you are just so lovely and, I believe, have a way of reaching people :)

Jake’s laugh is the best sound 💕💕

„Okay. That’s done. Great.“ 😂

Oh guys that was so much fun to watch!!! Thank you so much for making another!!! Sending so much love your way!! 💕

congrats to y'all for hitting two milestones!! it was super fun to get to know you guys better (both thru yourself and other people in the system) thank you for sharing!!

I've been so excited for this! Love all of you guys and hope you have a good Holiday!

Ollie’s calligraphy is the most beautiful I’ve ever seen

I used to watch a lot of DID videos in the past, and this was always a channel I would come back to. It’s so cool that I’ve found the channel again! Kind of like a blast from the past.

Hi there! It's actually been years since I last watched your channel. I recently rediscovered it and checked out this second installment of meet the alters - and oh my goodness, Ollie's grown up! I remember watching Ollie's video (Ollie's Day? something like that) and he was just a smol bean. Nice to re-meet everyone and continue doing what you do! 💙

This might be answered already but is Ollie ageing fast? I remember when I started watching when Ollie made his dino video he seems to be growing fast.

@nikkiroberts9681

4 жыл бұрын

I know it seems like it but he's been growing up with us. It's so crazy!

@stacicrawford1437

4 жыл бұрын

If I remember right, I think I heard someone mention once that Ollie went through a period of not aging, and then he aged really fast. But i don't know when either of those time periods would be.

@robynpawlik5293

4 жыл бұрын

His voice has changed since the first few videos. Just like my now teen son. They all grow up fast..

@floralie3074

4 жыл бұрын

The way I've understood it, they all age one year in one outside year. Our 14 years old boy (part) had a crush on Ollie when he was 14 too.. after that they have both changed ages, Ollie has grown up and our boy spent some time being 11.. It's weird for us too, because I remember them being both 14 and same kind in a way, but things change.

Really loved seeing everyone's handwriting for some reason ❤

Much love to you all! I’m so happy to get to know you all even better. Thanks for this cool video that absolutely doesn’t bore anyone to death 🤩

I love that Ollie has the best handwriting, I think as he gets older maybe it'll all even out bc he'll get lazy like we all tend to do, but it's very nice to see him doing such great script.

I kinda always thought Jamie would be the nerdiest in the system haha. Such an interesting video, fun to get to know you more and more every time!

wow i remember the first part very clearly when you only had a few k subscribers!!! amazing

I recently learned about your channel. My cousin has DID (he was adopted out of a very terrible situation), and he is a rare individual who has an alter who commonly threatens to kill the host, and a delinquent alter who has landed them in jail more than once. Learning that that is not a normal thing is helping me understand, remove my own stigmas and also gives me hope that my cousin could have a bright future. Thank you so much!

I always love watching the boys and Jess answer questions like this. It's so much fun to see what everybody says/thinks.

I was just thinking about you guys. I love your channel and videos! And lowkey it's kinda cute how Ollie has picked up his dad's "oh my days" saying xD

omg the DIFFERENCE IN ALL THE HANDWRITING

I want to thank you all for putting these two parts up. They really do help us outsiders understand and get to know you better. I just find it so funny how I can identify so much with Ed. It's almost scary.

I found your channel a couple of days ago and already watched so many videos. Thank you for being so open and informative. I’ve enjoyed getting to know the different alters in your system and understand more about disassociation.

I feel particularly connected to Ed. Finding out we're both slightly obsessed with crime shows just makes my heart so full

Jess, you are the best, most adorable oddball out there. We freaking love you!

I love how each of you have your own personalities, it's so interesting getting to know each of you!

The fact that I can close my eyes and easily pick out who’s who from their voice alone yet can just as easily do the same by muting the video and looking at their facial expressions and gestures blows my mind

Ed getting so pissed at that pen lmao that was good.

I think what’s really nuts is that the older Ollie gets the more you can hear that he’s got a perfect blend of his parents’ accents, which would obviously happen anyway, but it’s really interesting to see in a system

This was amazing! I'm so happy to see how far you guys have come, and I'm super happy Ollie's dream came true! Congrats and keep doing what you do!

Congrats on 100,000 subscribers. You all really deserve this.

Is it weird that I lowkey have a crush on jakes personality/voice 🤭

@kiararose8896

4 жыл бұрын

tk bee me and i love his smile and blushy face

Holy crap Ollie, your handwriting is so beautiful

I love you all so much

Congrats on over 100,000 Subscribers!!! Loved waking up to this💗 *Edit:* Ollie's handwriting is just perfect XD

JAKE I've missed seeing him. Ed, Jamie, Ollie, and Jess, and Jake love this video you all are so cute. Congrats on 144k subs. Love you guys.

JAKE!

I've been binging a lot of your videos since I found the the 360 one you made where we got to be in your headspace. It's amazing and super informative!

Now I want to see more families doing this. It's so cool to hear different perspectives, at different ages, with different relationships, but ultimately they are all very close and similar.

I feel kinda bad because since DID has become a trend on tiktok, everyone just assumes someone who claims to have DID is faking it. DID exists. It's not something that's been made up for attention

@sarahpayne288

2 жыл бұрын

DID is not real

The trusting relationship between jess and jake is just SO adorable

I literally just found this channel and I'm already a little in love with Jake XD That voice

y'all make me happy. I love coming here and seeing what is going on with the whole gang....you're a bit of sunshine! Thank you for posting the video and sharing your stories.

This is a really fun video! The puzzle piece pics of you are really cool, maybe you can have little pics in some corner the whole time to make it easier for people who don't know you guys that well...

i love how ed knows all the little cute things about ollie😂❤️ he reminds me of a mom who knows all the little facts about their son lol

I absolutely loved getting to know a little about everyone. Totally smiled the whole video! Y’all are awesome and totally bring some happiness into my day

I love Ed to pieces! He comes across as this hard ass person on the outside but you can tell he's such a sweetheart! To me, he seems like the type of person who will tell you something bluntly but in a caring way with the best intentions.