Barry doesn't potentially realize his hate and anger for Eobard, may be what actually helps him become Reverse Flash.

@zodiark2456

2 жыл бұрын

this isnt his origin story this is the same thawn from legends of tomorrow watch the full episode

@DancingRasputin

2 жыл бұрын

@@zodiark2456 that might be true but it doesn’t mean time can’t repeat itself; using a narrative trope of false flagging us into thinking it IS a Reverse Flash origin story to symbolically tell the tale of how how Reverse Flash originally became what he was, by retelling it in new circumstances with a variant of his character.

@CaptainThugRdx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daemon1995_ bruh did you watch legends and this episode properly? In Legends.. they explained that after Flashpoint Thawne got erased by the Black Flash..he was saved by the time wraiths..who turned him into a time protector. Then he died again by the robots but the wraiths saved him again and brought him to Meena.

@charlesneely

2 жыл бұрын

Well here's another lesson at Barry doesn't seem to learn he always f***** with the timeline everyday damn time now his mother is now his daughter ain't that a b**** see that's what happened when you don't learn s*** keep popping up at his feet for us biting you in the ass every f****** time Barry you don't listen that is your problem you don't

@hyperwave9895

2 жыл бұрын

@Dead channel so basically episode 7x10 Eobard explained to white canary that the wraiths brang him back. You are correct on that. But what basically is happening that since he was erased by the black flash, it seemed like he was from a future time point considering now that there are two thawns on this time point. How it isnt creating a time paradox,? Idk

Ah yes, the flash warns you it's the same thing of a mass murderer and psychopath, warns you the person in front of you *is* that same person, and she throws a tantrum and does it anyway. Brilliant writing and a good character there.

@malikedmond8398

2 жыл бұрын

cringy as s*** its the same plot over and over

@thecrazycapmaster

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair hes firing off accusations at someone she greatly trusts and has a powerful emotional bond with. If a fairly new friend of yours charged in and started throwing unfounded accusations in such a bitter, hateful tone, would you instantly believe them? Or would you think they’re losing it and do what you can to protect the one you care about?

@bet0v966

2 жыл бұрын

Decent writing left way back after season one

@kylecousins2438

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecrazycapmaster when she's seen the effect of the speed and the Flash is an established long term hero with a history with Thawne, I'd consider what he says. Whether she knows Barry is Flash or not, both identities were alert of Thawne from the first second. She isn't an idiot even though she loves to act like it, she can clock that something is wrong with the speed and some honesty in Flash's warning. Regardless of if you want to defend the person you care about, throwing yourself into a once only unknown risks clearly bad speed experiment in a fit of rage for no reason other than "muh boyfriend" you're thinking like a child.

@kylecousins2438

2 жыл бұрын

@@bet0v966 I never thought I would at the time, but I miss the Eddie era.

Meena in previous episode "you won't regret this barry" ...I call cap your honor!

@spectral282mcoc

2 жыл бұрын

This was negative speed force taking over her body

@Amir-qz4bn

2 жыл бұрын

Meena turning evil was exactly like how the S5 Nora briefly turned evil because she tapped into the negative force

The fact that Barry can run around the world multiple times in seconds but he couldn’t get to the lab fast enough🤦 How is he so fast at one point and not as much another

@jeremyzabel2923

2 жыл бұрын

bad writing and a poor understanding of speed powers

@itszay1658

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the problem when you’re dealing with an op hero but still want to create conflict. It never makes sense to me how he isn’t basically invincible to any non speedster, part of the reason i stopped watching

@williamlopez1196

Жыл бұрын

Plot! It's always been plot armor

@jorienwachukwu466

Жыл бұрын

Plot

@azziyhightmen5866

Жыл бұрын

Plot plus their right flashes hatred for thawne is what powers the negative speed force and creates the reverse flash it’s a perpetual cycle and it keeps Barry from his full potential Just like it got Nora it has an effect on him to

I knew Barry helping Meena was a bad idea. Why help someone who's creating artificial speed? And what is happening with Iris? And why was Diggle suddenly there? And who was that watching Cecile in the alley? And what is Deon up to? Too many characters and individual stories going on in this show 🤯

@earnestinedavis5557

2 жыл бұрын

That y its going to be the bomb 💣 💣💣💣

@Amir-qz4bn

2 жыл бұрын

On god. They trying so hard to connect it all like Stranger Things but it just doesn't work 🤣

@JonF-iy1wp

2 жыл бұрын

cw fans have really low standards lol

Ahh...the Negative Flash...rises again!

my problem is, why would you allow artificial speed? you’re an organic speedster that shouldn’t be allowed bcz then what’s next?

@redlightning9272

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not artificial speed tho. It’s negative

@Golden_Jester

2 жыл бұрын

They should put in the math equation that gives people speed when they say it

@smortlogician9258

2 жыл бұрын

@@redlightning9272 huh? Negative speed force was artificially created by thawne iirc.

@redlightning9272

2 жыл бұрын

@@smortlogician9258 it’s different from artificial speed

@smortlogician9258

2 жыл бұрын

@@redlightning9272 i am pretty sure flash writers messed this up then lol coz negative speed force has been said to be created by thawne previously

Seeing that black lightning appear around Meena is giving me flashbacks of Zoom.

@hahai6973

Жыл бұрын

Flash in its prime

Eric Wallace probably used this episode as a second prelude to what is happening her Post-Armageddon with the Negative Speed Force. This is effectively what has happened to Dion and potentially the other forces. Problem is I don’t know if Speed Force Nora is only weakened by the negative speed force or corrupted. If she isn’t corrupted, then she is already in danger and hiding. I think Thawne trying to slow down time enough to run across multiple points in the timeline with his Negative Speed accidentally awakened the Negative Still Force. When Barry used the time stone, he brought the Negative Still Force to the new timeline; also shooting the Negative Speed Force into the atmosphere created a paradox timeline. Since Dion cannot use his powers to go back before his injury happened (this is the only limit of his power), the Negative Still Force using Dion cannot go backwards beyond that period either. So this corrupted Dion decides to go back in time and start draining all the positive force from their time of awakening (including Iris). Since Iris has the weakest amount of force energy but is linked to all the forces, this future Dion went for her). The Godspeed War in Season 7 is actually a fixed point now that started this paradox timeline and created Armageddon. The timeline that XS and Impulse come from was a pre-GodSpeed/Armageddon timeline where Thawne was never re-animated, so what we see in 8x06 with their future timeline shifting back and forth with that newspaper was a sign that they were in a shifting timeline, so their second trip to the past to correct the timeline actually created the other half of this paradox timeline and actually bought the West-Allen family time in present 2022. The present timeline has yet to catch up to the future because positive Dion was trying to protect Iris from the Negative Speed Force during the Godspeed War and didn’t know it yet because they were now co-existing with the future consequences of Armageddon. Basically put, Godspeed/XS/Impulse’s trip to 2021 started a paradox loop that creates Armageddon (a fixed point that cannot be undone) and what the audience was watching from 7x15 onward with Iris’ time sickness was the Negative Still Force going after Iris after being created in Armageddon. Dion is living with himself and now a future corrupted version of him influenced by the Negative Speed Force entity and wants revenge on Barry. It’s not necessarily that there are two Dion’s, but more of what we see in this scene with Meena becoming corrupted by the Negatice Speed Force. She became two entities with the Negative Speed Force speaking through her. The same has happened with Dion where he has a split personality and his pain from being unable to move on from the loss of his football career fuels his hatred and allowed the Negative Speed Force to further corrupt him over time (until 8x15 when he finds the last bit of Iris’ force energy and disconnected the good personality to 2042 where the last of his positive energy is protecting the timeline); Unfortunately once negative Dion absorbs the particle, he gains more power and starts the search for Thawne so he can use him to drain all the positive force and break the source wall to the forever force for himself. Thing is either Thawne will be smart enough to take it for himself or the Negative Speed Force wants to merge with its original avatar again while absorbing the other forces in the process. Iris is in a coma in 8x19 because her force energy is part of her life force. Waking her up may require Barry taping into his force energy or what’s left of the other force to revitalize her like how Fuerza was revived with Barry and Iris’ love. At that point, Barry will have to break time with the past, present, and future using the position force to create an his own new flashpoint to break Dion and weaken him enough for Team Flash to defeat him. Or Barry taps into the Forever Force. Beyond that I’m curious if the next crossover is Blackest Night or Final Crisis.

@eljefe6847

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. What a breakdown! Thank you for the clarification but I still feel this show needs to end. I miss Cisco being on the show. It’s too many situations all happening at once and it can be difficult to keep up.

@user-ld8lv5py7k

Жыл бұрын

More like green goblin

Wow. That CGI in the beginning when Barry’s running is just awful. How did things get worse?

@thehardyfan9908

2 жыл бұрын

Saving up for last 2 eps probably

@ichatss

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's not Encore VFX anymore who does the FX since mid season 7.

@Bread_bread_bread_jam

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's becoming awful

@RealityClubX

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone mentioned it... Forget Barry running. What about the scene where Meena jumps in the forest and lands? What in the hell was that disgustingly awful CGI? You can find a team of 3-4 KZreadrs to do better editing than that smh.

@Bread_bread_bread_jam

2 жыл бұрын

@@RealityClubX Yea, and where she absorbs the Lighting was so bad and awful what are they using ? Plus season 8 from ep 1 to 5 it was so good and interesting. And the fight scene against the villian (forgot his name lol) and the plot twists. Now how to solve problems is using love and I really really hate the writing. THIS SHOW IS DEVOLVING, LIKE EVEN POWER RANGERS CGI IS BETTER.

2:19, I love that face full of anger and bad acting

NAH! That smile she did explains that she was never good and that she knew it was the negative speed force.

@robertrogers074

Жыл бұрын

Evil laugh muhahahaha.

Ok but like the theme slaps

DONT FORGET EOBARD INVENTED THE REVERSE SPEED FORCE

@sparshgongale1943

2 жыл бұрын

It's the negetive speed force.

@fathimafazeehamakar3620

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparshgongale1943 reverse speedforce

@sparshgongale1943

2 жыл бұрын

@@fathimafazeehamakar3620 Go watch season 6

Negitave flash is scary

This episode was so fun.

The return of the Negative Flash AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@TheRealThunder

2 жыл бұрын

Again...? We've had the Reverse-Flash (countless times). This is the first Negative Flash.

@pawes7418

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealThunder He means flash with bloodwork but this was no negative flash

0:06 - 8 seasons and they still have not repaired this building?

@silentgaming6287

2 жыл бұрын

it actually was fixed long agooo 2019/2022 yet they went back to the stupid destroyed model of star labs

@silentgaming6287

Жыл бұрын

@Thawne bc they cant decide which model to use like they even say in the show the building is fixed but still use the destroyed model when the overhead shots are showing where the characters are at.

Man, Thawne makes this show worth watching

@Xstarzones2

Жыл бұрын

Not really.

@robertrogers074

Жыл бұрын

@@Xstarzones2 why ?

@BlipBlopFlipFlop

Жыл бұрын

No, not at all. They're farming off side characters still with their "filler episodes", I don't care about Cecile and Allegra doing a porno together, I'm interested in the main story events on the Flash, like the comics. I hope Eric Wallace never gets hired again.

Dude those notes at 2:49 are cool lol

Aw crud. I hope Barry can get Meena back to normal.

Madvocate is gonna have fun with this season.

Thawne was the original Reverse Flash, then the original Nora became Reverse XS, now Meena's Reverse Fasttrack

@sparshgongale1943

2 жыл бұрын

Reverse fasttrack is a nice name tho.

@danirastawijaya3411

2 жыл бұрын

But in comics fast track became evil and have a nickname Negative Flash tho

This is how the Reverse Flash gets created wow, he created Flash, and Flash created him, cool, it all makes sense now.. kinda I guess 😭

Best scene so far. I hope her character sticks around.

@ShaunJames596

2 жыл бұрын

She will, she's in the set photos of the season 8 finale

@biki_edits

2 жыл бұрын

Same just don't make her as fast or nearly as fast as barry

@rkfootball3409

2 жыл бұрын

I hope not, she’s really bad, reminds me of cringe.

@skia5635

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkfootball3409 ++ Let's make _all_ characters in the show black

@hyped-up-charlie

2 жыл бұрын

Hell no I hope not for the sake of the show

Flash 8x18 was a total chaos

Totally didnt expect meena to become "evil" as soon as we first saw her :o

The flash could of handled that differently to stop this. He let his anger blind him and made meena “turn to the dark side”😂

@thelegend_jlz

2 жыл бұрын

well it’s like the reverse flash said his flash isn’t this stupid

@robertrogers074

Жыл бұрын

Dark Meena is hotter.

Wait when she said speed need more speed reminds me of Virgil from dmc when he said power need more power

"speed... I need more speed!" is it just me or thats a devil may cry 4 reference where nero finally reassembles the yamato and his eyes also turn red saying "Power... I need more power!"

I like the red eyes and black lightning

Ok, Meena is a MILLION times more creepy than Thawne was as the Reverse Flash 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰

Omg best episode I’ve ever watch 10/10 Easily in my top 2 episodes and I’m hyped for the next 2

@VAN-mt5bq

2 жыл бұрын

Stop going on every clip and saying the same ting it's annoying 😒 🙄

@pathanos2662

2 жыл бұрын

@@VAN-mt5bq sorry bro that episode was too peak I wanna know what people think I’m still in shock after watching chat my bad 😂

@funndrip

2 жыл бұрын

@@pathanos2662 don’t apologize for being hyped homie don’t let haters ruin your hype

@KakashiTaichou

2 жыл бұрын

In that case. Your standards must be low as hell jf you think this ranks in top 2 of ALL flash episodes

@pathanos2662

2 жыл бұрын

@@KakashiTaichou yeah my standards are very low, how could I like an episode where John diggles story gets complete, og reverse flash who has not been on screen since season 3 episode 1, so about 5 years. And Ray Palmer returns while Eobard redeems himself and finally changes, what a terrible episode man 🤨

& just like that the cw/wb crushed ours hopes of ever seeing John diggle as green lantern I'm beyond pissed about that part

@thespectaculargamernerd8114

2 жыл бұрын

Could be WB beinh dumb and strict about green lantern usuage.

@jordanpostle8641

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, after years of being green balled with this John Diggle(Stewart) tease bullshit we get slapped in the face. At what point did the writers go "yeah this sounds like a great story, A+ plot guys"

@doublevendetta

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanpostle8641 Wasn't a decision made by writers. Executives are at fault for this one.

I know its possible so it always stumps me when they make people go evil when they look super ugly when they go full on anger, its kinda like when you get told your grand parent died peacefully in their sleep then they remove the sheet for identifying and it looks like were scared to death and all you think is well that's the wake and open casket out of the question.

"Her brain is altering its too much power" Says calmly

I had nightmare that night that i has watching it

Imagine if zoom would know this somehow, man ???

@shadowunknown728theungiveu6

2 жыл бұрын

Reverse would kill him

@gamingvibe744

2 жыл бұрын

He did know about this type stuff he trying create his own speedforce but it did not work cause of speedforce reject it

@Dred0n

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamingvibe744 plus he would've wanted to be even faster he would've still taken the velocities and then the whole cycle of him and barry would've continue.

Meena looks so goofy

It’s to many damn flashes I den lost count now what number we on now 😭‼️

You think they could modify the chamber to harness Positive Speed Force energy so Avery Ho could become a speedster?

@luisclaudio3576

2 жыл бұрын

Avery ho return?

This video acitvated my siri

Meena’s soundtrack reminded me of zooms.

Holy shit, that black and white lightning looks so cheap.

anyone knows the theme song when meena turns into negative?

the reverse flash lives again

So that’s where all the budget went

Well, uhh......I have a, uh....special conduit for the speed force! It's just in my pants....specifically......

Rinse and repeat

Man the CGI :)..

Mans the lighting effects from before were way better

Yo sabía que no se podía confiar en esa mujer porque miren lo que ha echo

hilarious

Eyes like RF, Lightning around the speedster like Zoom. Wow🥶

@rkfootball3409

2 жыл бұрын

Zoom, I miss zoom, imagine he return

@skia5635

2 жыл бұрын

Lightning like a cheap CGI

@nescomadethis6058

2 жыл бұрын

@@skia5635 they saving the budget for Season finale

@skia5635

2 жыл бұрын

@@nescomadethis6058 Just a quick recap: Last season's finale was a fight with light sabers.

@nescomadethis6058

2 жыл бұрын

@@skia5635 true😭😭

you could say she has a... Need for Speed.

tell me when opposite flash arrives

More speed😱😮😮

bro why did flash not get her before she was not inside yet bruh

This is moment that shows Barry is in wrong. I mean stating hes murder and socialpath in bad way is bad I mean he ain't the reverse flash. Its his future self that was erased from timeline. In turn other would be probably be born or he's from flashpoint somehow. So in all honest can't call him a murder otherwise it might push him to become it. I mean ain't flash a murder aswell he made flashpoint and undid it which flipped who lives who dies. Like cisco brother he was meant to be alive yet now he's dead. Can say flash ended them and he must accept it. If he doesn't he's a hypocrite aswell. Like him but I hope he doesn't be a hypocrite and accept he's murder and do better.

@daharos

2 жыл бұрын

can't murder someone who doesn't exist bruh. doesn't work that way.

@black-wizard-zeref

2 жыл бұрын

@@daharos in way can n can't. It's how u see it. I mean it's like stating if Eobard went back on time killed or saved someone who was ether meant to live or meant to die in which erase/kill few people who were meant to live would u say its murder on all other people or not? And if he saved would u still class it as murder if people died when they meant not to.

@black-wizard-zeref

2 жыл бұрын

@Power106Fan really? We won't know then all we can do is know Barry did kill him. If he didn't think so highly oh himself go in time n change one thing and play god then he might of lived so it's two way we won't know but Barry did change timeline and okay god. Also hate how speed force still gives him chance after chance after chance. I mean he needs a punishment or lesson. Also their were others who were erased aswell and new people replaced like Diggles child well baby. Instead of son he got a daughter so his son went bye bye.

@black-wizard-zeref

2 жыл бұрын

@Power106Fan are we sure he learnt his mistake pretty sure he accidentally went forward when throwing the Philosopher's Stone in speed force n seen Iris die basically see future and changing it to fit his desire. Bet if he failed he go back in time and change it so he succeed. So sorry if I can't like him 100 percent.

@black-wizard-zeref

2 жыл бұрын

@Power106Fan yes that's right but by doing so he SEEN something he wasn't supposed to see thanks to Flash point alot lives were ruined and to that savitar was able to return out of his prison. In turn u could say losing Iris would be flash lesson. But he seen and thought I change it I make sure she won't die. In turn someone else has to die. Simple u can't make excuses for flash and event he in turn makes.

I think this is how Thawne become Reverse Flash he will lose someone.

I Honestly Thought That Meena’s Speed Was Artificial, I Was Shocked Finding Out Her Speed Is Actually Organic And Negative Speed

Whatever happen to spoiler warnings????

The flash é a melhor série está cada vez melhor

@connorking9135

2 жыл бұрын

Isso é uma piada né

Jeez this show has really gone down hill lol

Is it me or does meena lightning give darksaber vibes

@timpuck3216

2 жыл бұрын

As the Negative Flash, her lightning is supposed to be like that, no just white, so yeah

This show seems to have gotten crazier overtime with cast changes and all. not sure this happen in the comics or just ideas not in the books.

No la máquina de velocidad se viene el origen de Reverse flash

Help wanted: CW studios in need of computer graphics experts!!

2:11 Mina don't

So this version of eobard thawne is a good person?

@kevothegoat9891

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is the eobard that was a fan of the flash so before he got his powers

why is it that pretty much every evil speedster is just a crack addict for speed. I suppose we could call them phetheads.

I think I'm in Love i wonder if Meena is single :)

@hp2546

2 жыл бұрын

That whole episode is already proven Meena is single because she is available to romance Eobard. If Meena were married right now, Eobard would already be furious. If Meena have another fiance, her relationship with Eobard would be toxic. Think about this. Even when Meena started out as Eobard's hiring manager, it didn't change the fact that Meena is romancing her own employee. That episode is all about Eobard having a sexual relationship with his own boss Meena. So Meena first hired Eobard and then she dated Eobard. So far, it is revealed that the only man Meena is dating is Eobard.

@TwistedSecrets777

2 жыл бұрын

@@hp2546 lol i meant in RL :p but o well all the good women are gone so probably not

Hold up flash THIS FLASH Barry Allan ran around the world with supergirl in under what 10 seconds but can't make it to star labs and that amount of time 💀💀💀💀

Meena has black… lightning?

How bad did this show went, as if Barry needs to talk and can't stop that with his speed....

Question...Negative Speedforce users can deplete the flash's powers... why can't reverse flash take flash's power when they fight?

@inevitablecj415

Жыл бұрын

Example Red Death , and meena were connected to the negative speed force and they took flash speed momentarily How come thawne never did the Same?

How did the effects downgrade so bad bruh

Keep it dark. This is brilliant! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

Stupid Barry, if only he was like Tony Stark who actually learns from his mistakes, he would have dismantled the entire machine before having this conversation

Débora

Ok now why is Barry so slow

Let's all not mind the bad cgi

haven't watched since season 4 I think man the budget for this show has slipped

@luk3zzx154

Жыл бұрын

yeah the budget went down, but this episode they were holding back because they had to do to the cgi for the season finale

God the cgi is good… if it was a fan film..

The visuals are absolutely atrocious … u would think in 2021-22 the cgi would be better

This show used to look so slick. The costume used to look so good and now this looks cheesier than the show from the '90s. It's like Power Rangers level.

No

I see CW is still handing out speed powers to every female character in the series...

Hope this episode didn’t open with them saying Barry is the fastest man alive….cause he obviously isn’t.

@zodiark2456

2 жыл бұрын

did you watch the full episode his still way faster than her

@as-xi8ft

2 жыл бұрын

He is

rip cgi

His running cgi has some how gotten worse 😭

TIMELINE FINALLY PUNISHING BARRY LETS FKIN GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO IRIS IS MEAN'T TO DIE AS SAVITAR HAS TO EXIST

@alexandertelson3713

2 жыл бұрын

What

@JACQUEZJOHNSON23

2 жыл бұрын

savitar is Dead

@e.tseintje8005

2 жыл бұрын

oh shut up what he did to katelynn was the right thing to that was tuff love your just petty Barry hater so realy shut up and he doesn't forces he's ideals on people

THE CGI BRUH, WTF IS THIS?

@luk3zzx154

2 жыл бұрын

they were holding back this episode for the finale

@luk3zzx154

Жыл бұрын

@Thawne small budget

So, wait. Is THIS thawne a good guy? I'm confused

@luk3zzx154

Жыл бұрын

yes

Bom descanso nb bom trabalho meu amigo obrigado pela atenção toda família que Deus te passar o senhor na minha vida sempre com saudades de todos nós todos estamos bem e vc vai ficar tranquila que eu saiba que sou obrigado a Deus por tudo bem beijos boa semana bom dia tudo certo nada pra fazer a senhora também casa de Deus abençoe essa união sempre com muita saudade de você também foi Áudio que eu estou indo trabalhar agora graças adeus bom descanso nb boa noite linda que Deus te passar um ótimo domingo

Wtw

0:13 I stopped watching the flash after season 5. What is this goofy ahh CGI

This is all Barry’s fault

@micahelstalans1278

2 жыл бұрын

He just let his hatred of Thawne shift his emotions straight into overdrive.

@kadeloblack4774

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahelstalans1278 helping make the negative speed force…. And his origin lol how many people is he gonna have kill him mom? I bet the girl ends up having to do it but not really wanting to but it ends up being the only way to say this “New/Old good guy” thawn

What...the hell happened to the cgi

Ugh!