There are no standards for what makes a nib a fine, medium, broad, etc. Some companies try to follow the same 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 0.9 that mechanical pencils use, but no company always gets this correct. A very wet nib will usually leave a wider line than a dry nib, even though both are sized identically. Ink also matters, often a LOT. You really can't accurately compare nibs unless all the pens you're comparing all have the same ink.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That is true, there are lots of factors that go into how thick or thin a pen will write. A nib's wetness, the feed, the ink, the paper you write on, and I'm sure there are more. And I should have prefaced some of those things that this wasn't meant to be completely accurate as I definitely didn't prepare all my pens with one ink and it isn't really a general rule, but rather a general trend between the Japanese and European nibs. Thanks for making those points, James! This is helpful information to add on to learn more about nib comparisons better!

Useful video, Kenchan - exactly what I look for when figuring out which nib size to go for! One quibble / edit, in the event you do future videos testing line width: I think we all have a reflexive tendency, when using a ruler, to go over a line twice. (or - back and forth.) But for a width-test, this could result in a broader line than accurate.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input and feedback!! I definitely had that thought through my head when I looked at it again in editing the video and realized I went over twice on some of the later lines. I will do my best to just do a single line and not go over letters for future videos for line comparisons (since I know I constantly am wanting to compare or know comparisons for future pen purchases, I will most likely do comparisons between other top brands for future videos). Thank you for watching and I'm glad this was a good start for you to look at for choosing nib size! :)

@knutvonheim3838

Жыл бұрын

Agree with this observation. I would also add that one could consider using the same ink in all pens. I still like the comparison :) Good video and helpful discussion!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@knutvonheim3838 Thank you, Knut! I'm glad you enjoyed the comparison. I agree too, I'll prepare better with pens I compare in the future. Hopefully I'll just be comparing two or 3 pens so it's not so much to clean out. Thanks so much for watching!

@almighty858

6 ай бұрын

​@@KenchanKraftsThat would be nice if you use just one ink but i think it is too bothersome honestly. I think if you just let us know what ink you are using and add some comment that the ink is wet or dry side would be enough. Then, we are able to learn inks (or already know how the inks behave) and check the ink color in that pen as well. If i may ask one more favor, if you could write some chinese, japanese, or korean, please do. It helps a lot for viewers who write those letters. It would look fancy as well. I always enjoy your videos. Very helpful and calming!

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

@@almighty858 Thank you for your thoughts about that! I appreciate that you point out the tediousness of doing the same ink in roughly 8 different pen brands and having to clean them all again. I like your idea and I'll be sure to write down the qualities of the ink along with their name to the right after drawing the line for each pen/ink in the future! As for character writing, I studied Japanese for two years in college, that was well over many years ago!! But I can definitely write what I remember and I still know the strokes to kanji and hiragana characters, so I can do some samples for you and others in shorts and/or future videos! Thank you so much for your support in watching my videos :) Follow me on instagram - can definitely chat more there!

My main issue with Pilot Mediums is that despite being deliciously smooth, they’re very wet and broad writers. My handwriting is pretty small, and so the medium doesn’t work as well for me. So I just got the Custom Heritage 92 with the Japanese market-only Fine-Medium, and it’s absolutely perfect. Writes finely like a drier steel Pilot medium or a medium point Capless, but is less scrapey than a Fine. It’s the perfect balance to me.

@KenchanKrafts

28 күн бұрын

A shame America doesn’t carry Pilot’s Fine-medium. Or the soft nibs. Well the soft ones might pose a bit of warranty issues because they’re easier to ruin by user error, but they’re so nice! I’d love to try a fine medium pilot sometime soon! Hopefully when Pilot comes to SF pen show. I after that Pilot’s medium is way too broad. It’s basically a western broad with the right ink and paper.

I just swapped the nib of my 743 into my 823 so that I now have my trifecta of amber 823s with my three favorite shades of blue ink: Baystate Blue, Oxford Blue, and Bungbox 4B. This is my favorite pen and I love seeing all the demo and comparison videos.

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

Ooo you love blue inks! I'd love to try Bunguubox 4B. They're such luxurious inks! That's amazing that you have 3 of them! What are the three nib sizes on them, if I may ask? :)

@Afromite

6 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts all three of the amber 823s are broad nib. But I used to have one of each. I cracked the thread section of my first 823 which had a medium nib, the replacement I bought came with a broad nib. So I put the bungbox 4b into the new pen, moved the nib of the broken pen into the body of a smoke 823 that I picked up on ebay and swapped the nib on my 823 that had a fine nib with the 743 I have that also has a broad nib and done.

Great video. Very informative. I love your passion and palpable enthusiasm. I look forward to your continuation with unpretentious and honest review. Thank you.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your wonderful words, Michael. This made my day and I am happy this video was able to be of help! :) Thank you for watching and continuing to watch in the future!

I have the amber with a medium nib. I use a Pinieder ink well and that gives me a 100% fill. I've dedicated it to one ink so I don't have to worry about cleaning completely between fills. It's travelled the world with me (along with the inkwell) and has been rock solid. It's a great pen.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, dedication to one ink would do very well for this pen! That's great we have the exact same pen color and nib :) What ink do you use for your Amber 823? Also, the amber finish is my favorite, it's just so exquisite looking!

@johngrubb007

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts I use Noodler's Whaleman's Sepia in it. Currently, I believe, it's exclusive to Goulet Pens.

Usefull. I have the 823 in a broad nib, and love it. I do have a #15 in a custom 743, which I also like. Ku-jaku is one of my favorite inks. THe trick to get a 100% fill is to fill it some then turn the pen nib up, and pull rod back. Carefully push rod into pen, until ink is up to the section. Turn upside down, put in ink, and push in. Warning: Careful - you could get ink all over the place if you are not careful pushing in rod with nib up. Pilot recomends that end users do NOT disassemble pen.. This has been known to cause cracks, and can void warrantee.

@KenchanKrafts

9 ай бұрын

Kujaku is super beautiful in wet nibs. It dries to such a beautiful peacock teal. And yeah, I definitely should have added a disclaimer in that part of the discussion about only doing it if needed after the warranty is over. And that trick for a full fill sounds like we'll need some good practice! Thanks for the tip!

Thank you. Exactly the format and amount of detail I like.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, Herman! :)

Excellent video. Thanks for doing this!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Terry! Hope this is helpful for new and old pen enthusiasts alike ^_^

I am considering this pen, so glad you posted this helpful video

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Marie! I'm glad this helped you make a decision when the time comes! :) I need to make more videos that answers questions people have about pens, that hopefully I have xD

@impish22

7 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts I did get the Pilot Custom 823 in a medium and it does write a bit broader than expected. I do notice a difference with different inks and paper, however. It is very juicy for sure and very smooth, with just a touch (very little ) of feedback depending on paper. This is my first gold nib, so may have something to do with my experience. This pen is quality for sure and I do love it. But I know what you are talking about with the medium nib. I don't want to buy the fine in this pen, because I generally do not like fine nibs. So I will experiment with different inks and paper and try to find the perfect combo with this medium nib. I also notice a little nib creep with some inks that are wetter. Thank you for your very thorough review. You are right on with the nib size comparison and what you were able to discover about them. This pen is definitely the smoothest and juiciest in my collection so far. It was a good investment.

@KenchanKrafts

7 ай бұрын

@@impish22 That's so wonderful to hear, Marie! I know there is the Fine-Medium, but that is only from Japan. It does write more like a Western Medium, but a tad bit finer. I agree with you on all points, it's such a beautiful pen. I'm so glad you chose this as your first gold nib pen and that my video was helpful for you in making that decision! Definitely do not regret having this pen in my collection at all and I'm happy you feel the same! Nib creep doesn't bother me, I do wipe it off, though, but not excessively if it doesn't stay cleaned. I know that's an issue for some folks. Good luck finding the perfect ink for your Custom 823!

Thank you so much for this video. I purchased a Custom 823 a few days ago and it's enroute to me right now. I bought the one in Fine but I was starting to have niggling thoughts that I made the wrong choice after rereading some reviews that the writing experience only becomes buttery smooth at the medium nib level. This video assuaged my worries because the fine definitely suits me more. Back to waiting eagerly then 🤣

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching! ^_^ I'm glad this helped relieve your worries. And indeed the pen is ultra smooth even at the fine level ^_^ As it should be since it's a grail level pen. You will love it! It looks mighty expensive when you hold it in your hands, which makes me feel better for how much you have to spend on it 😀

Our tastes in collecting are remarkably similar. I mirror your lineup almost exactly. I have three Custom 823’s…one each of the fine, medium and broad. Each is wonderful in its own way. My most recent purchased only a month ago for just under $200 USD they represent a spectacular value.❤

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty awesome!! I'm so happy to hear our collections are pretty similar! I absolutely love my lineup of pens! I can write so well with them all in these tiny planners and journal with them as well. That's awesome that you got a third custom for under 200! Mine was around there, too!

@davidmathews2124

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts I just wish I could find a crystal clear model for a sane price. Mine are the medium and broad. The latter is truly amazing. The 823 is famous in a unique way. The XF and F are very very close in line width then the M is quite a bit wider and obviously the B as well. I honestly.- don’t crouch quietly in a dark subterranean cavern whispering “My precious, my precious” but the Custom 823 in either the amber or dark smoke is perfect in so many ways…it sits on top of all my other pens. Great vid by the way.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmathews2124 Are they like in the 300s or 400 price range? XD The clear model would be the TWSBI but 10x better haha. I hope you find your Clear Custom 823 at a reasonable price someday soon (if you don't have it already)! I'm sure that will feel so good :)

A very useful video - thanks for making it.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Scott! Thanks so much for stopping by and watching ^_^

Thank you sooo much for taking the time to do this, it's really helpful! (I agree with the comment that the same ink in both nib sizes for the 823 would have been ideal; but still, your comparison of many different brands is really useful, as I think most FP enthusiasts can relate to at least a couple, and get a pretty clear idea what to expect). Thanks for helping me confirm the notion that an F would probably be my best choice here. Why doesn't Pilot offer a size that fits between those two though? So frustrating!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

True, I should have used the same brown ink for those line tests, since ink plays a big role in line width and how wet a pen will write. But I'm happy you found this helpful!! :) Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to see that I might be able to show. Thank you for watching jeanne!

@impish22

7 ай бұрын

Yes, that would be perfect. Pilot should make a MF for that happy place

Great info! Thanks for sharing!❤

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

:) Thanks, Cory! Thank you for watching ❤️

Thanks for the excellent video, Sir. I also have the Pilot Custom 823 with a Medium nib, and I can honestly say that it writes way more broad from all LAMY steel Broads nibs that I have (e.g., z50, z52, z53). I compared with LAMY because of the spread of those nibs worldwide. The above Pilot pen, is an excellent pen, very smooth, but on the downsides, it eats up ink like crazy, and also I do not like the fact that you need to have unscrewed the back finial so that it performs as expected. The latter makes the pen feel loose and kind of “incomplete” to me.

@KenchanKrafts

2 ай бұрын

:D We shared the same experience and observations on the Medium nib then. A lot of other folks kept saying the C823 M writes like a western fine...it doesn't make sense to me. I think depending on the ink and paper, sometimes it might write like a western Fine, but in general, this Medium is just much broader than what we expect. I think a lot of other vacuum filler pens also have the knob at the top that needs to be screwed open for ink to shift from the large reservoir to the front, so that might be a normal thing, but annoying nonetheless. Thank you for sharing your opinions and thoughts on the C823!

@7_v610

2 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts agree. Also to add that comparing the above pens and associated nibs, I was referring to using the same pen for the comparison (Clairefontaine). Moreover, I have inked the compared pens with Pilot Iroshizuku kon-peki (for the 823), and Pilot Iroshizuku tsuki-yo, which they both have the same flow.

Subbed and liked! Great video. Really interesting. I love (what I have seen of) your collection. You have some fine looking pens there (no pun intended) May sound slightly strange but also you have a really nice atmosphere in your video. I was really enjoying the background piano music while you were talking, it was super relaxing. Now, please excuse me while I browse your channel for more content! :)

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That's not strange at all! I'm happy to hear that the music helped with the calming spirit of my video! I appreciate hearing your thoughts about that. The music didn't seem to fit into my review until I started writing, so I think that music really accentuates the soothing feelings one can get when writing their thoughts onto paper :) Definitely look forward to more videos xD I will keep doing my best to create a warm and relaxing environment! ^_^

Hey I am not sure if I missed it in the video but how would you describe the difference between the F and M in terms of smoothness and feedback? Is the F too “feedbacky”? I would prefer the F as I draw and write with a fine line but I want to know if it is still pleasantly smooth. In terms of feel which do you think is the overall better choice ? If you don’t mind my asking of course

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

Hi Arya, thanks for asking and watching! The fine isn’t too feedbacky at all. In fact, the medium has feedback anyways for how smooth it is. Both are very smooth but I’ve only tested the fine with pilot inks. I would say that as long as you are using a good solid ink, the fine’s feedback is very comfortable. You can hear the feedback better in my feedback asmr Shorts. I prefer the Fine, since I like to write smaller and thinner.

Thanks for that line comparison! If you're ever thinking of letting go of that "mistake" in Medium, I'm definitely interested.

@seemownay

Жыл бұрын

Also: please don't let those negative comments get to you. Some people are skilled in giving nice constructive criticism and some people clearly are not. We are also able to differentiate the line width by looking at your writing samples. I think this video is very valuable - thanks for taking the time!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Simone! I love the medium nib actually, like, my perfect preference would be something TRULY between the fine and medium (Sailor's MF is basically an F, so that's why I say this lol), but I enjoy having this broader Medium nib in my collection and I love the amber color. IF I ever do feel like selling it, I'll for sure come to you first if you haven't got one by then :)

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@seemownay I was definitely sad at first when reading my very first negative comment. Being new to uploading KZread videos, I knew there will be negative comments with no constructive feedback, but I tell myself, "kill negativity with kindness" and then take what is valuable from the negative comment and stay humble ♥Thank you for your encouraging words! I am happy that you pointed this out and saw this! I'm sure you've had your own experiences of this doing YT as well and we definitely just have to keep at it :)

Oh cool! Finally a video that compared TWSBI Medium to Pilot 823 Medium. I've been trying to find a comparison and TWSBI is my only FP and I'm trying to choose a gold nibbed pen and I'm pretty much between 823 and 743 😁

@KenchanKrafts

2 ай бұрын

xD Hey Remy! Thanks for commenting on my video. Fair warning, I did have a dry shimmer ink in my TWSBI Medium, so the line looks much thinner than it might write, but I still think that with the same ink, the Pilot Custom 823 M would still be a bit broader than a TWSBI Medium :) So I hope that helps you make a decision. I have a 743 Falcon, too, but both models are basically the same nib if you chose M or F. Will you change your ink often? If so, go 743!

@remyvegamedia

2 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts I find my Eco to be a modest medium also. I had a Cross medium and that nib was noticably wider and my Jinhao 9016 is also a tad wider line. That's a good question! And that's my last thing to determine. I'm definitely going with a medium. Thank you for your response!

Also, would it be possible to do another video with longer writing samples of just the 823 side-by-side? Thanks again -- great video. And you have a lot of quality pens!

@KenchanKrafts

7 ай бұрын

Of course, I can try to put the videos side by side when editing them together and i can transcribe the same thing so the words are uniform. That'll include the Lamy Fine, too, for reference. Thinking of choosing between them or just choosing which nib size to go for on both pens? :)

@NicholasPaulFranks

7 ай бұрын

Thanks very much indeed - that would be very helpful.@@KenchanKrafts I have a Lamy 2K in medium but always felt that it was a little thicker than i was expecting. I'm now hoping to get an 823 and, after seeing your video earlier, I think the F is looking more like what I'm after. The medium 823 doesn't look any thinner than a western medium. :)

Wow! Best 823 vid to date!

@KenchanKrafts

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, JC ^_^ Much appreciation!!

Pilots look the best in terms of quality line. I'd choose either the 823 with Fine, or even with a Medium nib, if I could afford it!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, their lines are top notch quality! So smooth, I can journal with it or use it for work and it fits both needs very well. The Fine is so nice and I think a lot more practical for every day use and especially in work settings. They are so expensive, though, so I feel you, especially with currency conversions, it makes this pen (and others in the high range) very expensive for most.

I like your collection your taste in pens and nibs are similar to mine. I found your comment about the Pilot E95 interesting, I have one in EF and it writes like a medium. I purchased it from a different vendor than I usually buy from and thought it was somehow flawed. I was tempted to sell it and repurchase from my usual pen supplier. But if you’re having the same experience, I guess it’s just the way the E95 nibs are made, they are definitely not as fine as the rest of the Pilot pens.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Would love to see your collection of pens. I love finer tips for most things and broader nibs for more special occasions or fun Journaling. The E95S seem to be grounded differently and I wonder if it's because it's an inaid nib. When i look closer at the tip, it's not rounded like other pens but almost stub-like. Glad you found this helpful for that pondering you had 😀

Thank for for this video. The Pilot 823 is definitely my next purchase. I love my Pilot E95S in a medium nib, so I was thinking I would get the 823 in a M, as well, but I may need to rethink this. I admit I really enjoy the Pilot nibs; their smoothness really spoils me, although I’d love to try a Pelikan, as well!

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Hi Lisa, you're very welcome! I'm sure most, if not all, Pilot medium nibs write a similarly large size like shown in my video. You can control it with paper or a drier ink. Other folks have stated that their Pilot Custom 823 medium nibs write the same as western Fines, but I think that probably applies to the wettest of Western fines (Pelikan, Aurora, Montegrappa). My Pelikan Fine does write quite similar to my Custom 823 Medium. You will not go wrong with a Pelikan!!! Pelikan and Pilots are two of the smoothest nibs in the industry!! And they come with pleasant feedback, too! You should try a Pelikan M800 Fine if you think you'd like the weight of the 823 and choose Pelikan instead :)

Thanks for the video and really helpful. I just picked up the 823 jn M and only owned these medium nib pens- MB Edgar Allan Poe, ST Dupont line D and Lamy Al-star in medium. I was expecting broader lines and being really wet but it’s not, which is ok so it’s different from my other pens. Do you feel like the 823 pen body is slippery and would jump out of your hands? Happened to me and glad it landed on desk!

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Hi Eliza! Thanks for watching and commenting! I’m happy it helped you choose the medium. If you use a wetter ink and twist open the knob at the end of the 823, that should increase the flow and wetness of the ink. From my experience it’s a fairly average flowing pen that regulates flow very well among all inks I’ve tried. It’s not slippery for me, but I have dry hands. The Twsbi diamond is slippery for me…which is so odd since they’re both sturdy resin plastic. But thank goodness your pen is safe!! 😩🥰 The 823 should be broader than your al star medium if it’s the same ink, but otherwise pretty similar.

Have a demonstrator 823 M from Japan. Definitely a smooth writer’s pen maybe my favorite.

@KenchanKrafts

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience! The demonstrator is so unique and cool. The pilot nib is definitely one of my favorite nibs! :)

I have pilot 823 amber B nib.. Also pilot 743 with Falcon nib. Very happy with my choices..

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

I just got a 743 Falcon in the Verdigris model! Can't wait to try it out ^_^ Very happy that you're content with your choices! :D Pilot make very reliable nibs and pens!

may i ask what ink you used at the bottom right on the medium nib at 26:55 ? looks like a brownish? yama guri (wild chestnut) possibly? thanks!

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Hey there! That is Ferris wheel press steeped umber! It’s one of my favorite basic brown and it’s very well behaving!

I want to ask if the Fine nib is scratchy or writes smooth... I like the look of the Fine Nib writing but I am concerned about the writing experience. Could you please help me out with that as that would help me decide which one to go for... Thank You in advance

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

Hi Wassie! Thanks for watching and your inquiry! The fine nib writes buttery smooth with a good amount of feedback. The feedback is soft and gentle depending on your paper and ink of course. You can hear the feedback in my shorts on feedback and also see how smooth it writes. If you like the fine nib, definitely go for the fine! I prefer it over the medium too! Both nib sizes write very smooth.

@wassierehman8821

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the prompt response. I think I should go with Fine since my handwriting is Small and I like how the fine looks here @@KenchanKrafts

I got my 823 in broad! And love it!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! :D How does it compare to your other broads?

@thedirtygot9570

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts its my only broad, other than my wife😂

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@thedirtygot9570 LOL!!!!! Love that!! You've got great sense of humor. I'm sure she's the best broad you have!

From experience, if you like writing with Fine nibs on your European fountain pens, get your Pilot Custom 823 with Fine nib. I got my 823 w/medium nib, wish I would have gotten it with a fine.

@KenchanKrafts

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience with your Pilots, John! I agree, some of my western Fines are pretty thin and very close to the Pilot Custom's fine, which is interesting and nice. (Kaweco F, Twsbi F, and Lamy F - all tend to be very similar to Pilot's Fine. My Leonardo and other Italian Fines seem to be broader, however.)

I hope you have a positive outcome with your Momento Magico. I have a few J Brooks collabs with Leonardo; I love them equally. Tailored Pen Company is making a custom honeycomb for me this week; I’m really excited about it, after ten weeks in queue it will be a belated Lunar New Year surprise! It seems that I am most attracted to Jonathon Brooks (latest) Blanks and Tailored Pen Company’s as well for Bespoke models. Do you have any favorite blank makers or Bespoke pen turners? I live in North Carolina, and we have so many amazing pen wizards here; it’s incredible. Btw, thanks for sharing your Pilot 823s. I think I’ll ink mine up (smoke, M nib) when my Sailor 1911L Kagauro Green (M) runs out of ink/is cleaned. :)

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Frau! I also hope things turn out well for my momento magico pen! I really liked brooks' primary manipulation blank for the Leonardo, but I got interested in Leonardo... or fountain pens after that beautiful pen came out last year. How much are the tailored blanks and how do you order those? From endless site, their premade styles come around 300 dollars, so I'll assume that's the cost for a tailored pen by them? The chatoyance on those tailored pen company blanks are just stunning. I would like to try to have them make a very unique one just for me. Would love to see your custom honeycomb once you get it ! :) I don't know too much about these pretty blanks except for brooks and tailored pen co. but I like their designs for the moment. And looks like you like your custom 823, too! They're great!

I’m having trouble deciding between the medium and fine nib. I usually go for western fines and Japanese mediums. I don’t write small or big, I would say it’s average hand writing. What are your thoughts?

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Hey Aaron, xD welcome back - you've found my older video with the Pilot Customs. Pilot Custom Fine writes finer than Jowo/Western fines. And my Pilot Custom Medium writes broader than every jowo/western fine I have, except for Pelikan Fine. Pelikan Fines write like mediums, so I would say the Pilot Custom Medium writes like a Western Medium. On my very coated paper like Clairfontaine, the nibs write thinner than on my Tomoe River paper - so paper will affect how they write as well. I would say that if you're used to a Platinum Medium (which are thinner than Pilot and Sailor mediums), maybe go with the Custom 823 Fine and open the knob at the back to increase wetness and flow. The 823 Medium writes very wet and juicy on Tomoe River paper.

@07SAtown

4 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts yes I did! 😂 I’ve been watching a lot of videos and you come up often. I just subscribed to make it easy. I’ve never written with that pen before actually. I’ll take your advice and try the fine.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

@@07SAtown I'll pray really hard it writes as you like >_< Thanks for taking your time to watch my videos ^_^ That's also encouraging to hear my videos are popping up from time to time on people's feeds!

@luigig6256

4 ай бұрын

I had the same dilemma. I got medium in the end. It writes like my Lamy 2000 xf but otherwise like many western fines. Most of my pens are fine. Writes a bit broader than a Kwaeco brass sport fine. The fine in the 823 when I tried it in the store was perfect as well so you cannot go wrong. A bit convoluted I know but what an extraordinary pen!

Great video, thanks for taking the time to put this together. This has definitely made me think that the fine 823 would be for me and most definitely not the medium. Its really too bad that there is not a medium fine 823, I have a medium fine 912 and its a sweet spot for me. This might push me to ditch the 823 and jump to the 743 for the additional nib options.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Hey Ethan! Thanks for your input and thoughts! I would agree with you, the selling point of the 823 is the vacuum and holding a lot of ink. If you don’t need that, the 743 will give you more options with the same size nib as the 823. I think if 823 came out with a fine medium, it would sell so well. They should start thinking about doing that!

@vigilante1202

4 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts It would definitely sell...If I was really motivated, I could reach out to a seller and get them to nib swap a fine medium 743 nib and feed and put it in an 823. I am pretty sure they are compatible...👀

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

@@vigilante1202 Wouldn't hurt to ask...🤭Though, I know changing nibs does void warranty, so...if it's an authorized retailer, they may just inform you of that, IF they even accept that request. Sellers from Japan may also do it IF they're confident in doing it for you. Since buying from Japan means you don't get a warranty to begin with, so it's fine. And all assuming...that you were inspirationally motivated to do this! XD I will add a soft F-M Pilot to my collection someday soon, too!

Hello Kenchan, what's the lovely blue ink used in the Pilot 823 fine sample?

@KenchanKrafts

11 ай бұрын

Hi Mateus -- It is the Pilot Iroshizuku Ku-Jaku ink! :D A lovely deep tealish turquoise ^_^ And it writes super wet and nicely!

@MateuszNagorski

11 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts Thank you! Iroshizuku is a quality line indeed. I used to use kon pedi with my Pilot 823 F

FYI twsbi has always used German nibs (Schmidt, then Bock and now Jowo).

@KenchanKrafts

Ай бұрын

Ah, thank you so much for that info! I really do love their jowo nibs! They write very smoothly.

Thank you for this. Do you happen to have a Lamy 2K to compare with the 823 in medium and fine nibs?

@KenchanKrafts

7 ай бұрын

Hi Nicholas! Thanks for watching and inquiring! I do have a Lamy Fine and I can definitely do a video comparing those two for you and others ^_^

@NicholasPaulFranks

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!@@KenchanKrafts

omg cool review!!!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Excelente vídeo! Também estava em dúvida entre a C823 fina a C823 média.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

I hope this video helped you make a decision or that you chose the one that suits you best if you already have yours! 👍😁

@fernandogabriel4048

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts Obrigado! através do seu vídeo eu escolhi a ponta F, no entanto ainda vou comprar a caneta.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

​@@fernandogabriel4048 Wonderful!! You will love it :)

@fernandogabriel4048

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts assim espero! Pilot é uma das melhores marcas de instrumentos de escrita. Acho a C823 na cor âmbar, muito linda. Obrigado!!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

​@@fernandogabriel4048 I agree, the amber is classic, modern vintage looking, and just a beauty. I like that color more, too, glad we share that same interest! Thanks for watching my videos, Fernando!

Starts writing lines at 14:30.

@KenchanKrafts

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the exact timestamp for the lines/writing samples of each pen! I will put that into the description box!

Definitely as issue between the fine and medium with the Pilots; that's why I went with the 743 so I could get a Fine/Medium. Writes great.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

I've seen certain online Japanese shops that offer the 823 with FM and EF, but they come at a premium price, even in Japan. I do feel that the step up from F to M is much too drastic for the few nib options they give to us in the USA, but for those who don't necessarily want that sweet middle ground, these two are great polar opposites for the finest of fine writers or juicy medium/broad writers. How do you like your 743?

@webbdelasteve

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts I love it. Smoothest pen I have. Normally, I really do enjoy some feedback in my nibs, so I like the feel of the Sailor nibs a lot, but something about the 743 is above and beyond. I wanted the 823, but because I change inks so frequently, the price jump is about $200 where I am at, and the aforementioned FM desire, the 743 was a no-brainer. Should say, I had to play around to fix a dry upstroke on both the 743 and 74 though.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@webbdelasteve Oooo, I also really hate those dry upstrokes from Sailor nibs xD While they are tuned really well on almost every pen out of the box, since they're so fine, they always write so dry. With time and maybe a little fixing like you did, I might be able to make sure all my Sailors write an evenly smooth and non-dry upstroke. Glad you are enjoying your 743! Smooth pens always have their place in our hearts and our collection.

@tsherbs1309

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I wanted something between the Pilot F and M, so I ordered a Custom 74 from Japan with the SFM nib. Great nib! Should be offered in the USA, also!

@webbdelasteve

Жыл бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts Oh! I haven't had an issue with Sailor yet, but the Pilots were dry on the upstroke. I'm sure it's something that can be found in both. For me, tuning and getting them subjectively perfect is all part of the allure.

Fine every time for me on this one (although I also own a medium which I bought when I started expanding my collection and was on the quest for the perfect nib/line width). I eventually... found it in the Custom Heritage 912 MF and Sailor Pro-Gear/1911 Large MF but that nib has different properties and isn't as smooth as the Pilot.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, Pilot's nibs are so smooth compared to Platinum or Sailor's MF. If you don't like the "scratchy" feedback sound of the Sailor, you'll most likely want that tuned but that's definitely a property of the Sailors. Some like it, some don't. But everyone should more than likely love the smoothness of the Pilot nibs! :D They, along with Pelikan, I think are the two smoothest nibs out there. I think my perfect line width is my Aurora Fine, which is in between a Western Medium and Fine. :D But I've come to enjoy all different widths ranging from a super thin Platinum Fine to a Pilot VP Medium. They're great!! Thanks for sharing your experience with Pilot, Scott!

@scottbaker2451

4 ай бұрын

No problem. Always wondered about the Pilot Custom Uruhsi which they do sell with MF but I wonder whether the jumbo nib will lead to a lot of bounce and thicker line like the Pelikan 1000? Shame Sailor don't sell their King of Pens with a MF. It's why I've never bought one.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

@@scottbaker2451 It is a shame - their Medium and Broads are extremely broad and juicy - equivalent to western nib sizes even. Also I wished the King of Pen and Custom Urushi came in Piston fillers, that would be a lovely upgrade for their price and flagship status, but, I suppose the Japanese market and audience do prefer cartridge converters. Not many Japanese pens come as internal piston fillers.

Would you agree that kaweco sport medium and custom 823 medium hv same line width?

@KenchanKrafts

3 ай бұрын

From my experience, the custom 823 medium is always a bit broader. XD unless you get a really wetly tuned Kaweco. I will put the same ink in my Kaweco medium and let you know how they look on paper!

@SijalAhmad

3 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts thanks

Thank you for this. Your writing angles gave me palpitations. 😂😂😂

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

HAHAHAH!! OMG, no, I get palpitations too looking back at how I held and wrote with my pens! I wrote with a quad grip for my whole life and it was the way I had best control over my handwriting. But I have since trained myself to write with a tripod grip and I promise you, my later videos should look better! I still have a heavy hand, but I am also training on writing softer and with more gentle touch. I also wonder back, how the heck did the pen even write with my terrible angle, but I noticed that a lot of folks also write with their fountain pens at this angle. If you rotate the camera/paper clockwise 90 degrees, the nib is facing north but it is still at a higher angle than suggested, but instead of writing left to right, the strokes are being written right to left and each letter is written from top to bottom. I was consistent with the angle of my nib, so there was no issues with skipping or bad ink flow to the page. However, this angle did cause issues for some flourishing, which I have learned was my fault and not the nib!! :) Apologies for my angle of writing -- I totally get it!!

I prefer the custom heritage 912 with the large con 70 converter, the million different nib options, the crazy affordable price straight from japan and the nib which I prefer. I love the flat ends, sword clip, rhodium hardware and amazing dimensions of the design. Wonderful in person. I do love the pilot urushi as well. I found what you said interesting about writing with less pressure. To me every fountain pen I own should write under its own weight by simply dragging it between your index and thumb across the page. Is that not what you find? Thank you

@KenchanKrafts

Ай бұрын

I definitely want to try the custom heritage since I prefer flat top pens and I would love to try a soft nib from pilot. As for writing with less pressure, I have found that I just generally write with more pressure since that is how I’ve been writing my whole life. Fountain pens do write under their own weight as the ink is very different from ball points! I’ve had to train myself to write with less pressure since fountain pens are made to be written that way, but then there are those flex pens where you need to manually apply pressure to create line variations, too. And sometimes I write harder when the ink pen combo’s overall flow is drier (I.e. very bad flowing shimmer inks). I’m not perfect yet at writing gently with my fountain pens, so that’s why stiffer nibs are usually my go-to nibs! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Will update my thoughts on the pilot custom heritage or urushi once I feel them either at the Chicago pen show in two weeks or the SF pen show, since Japanese brands are probably not going to be at the Chicago show.

@XtianApi

Ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts makes sense. I found at the start, moving pressure off the nib and onto your hand contacting the paper helped me. I would get sore hands, but needed some pressure somewhere since they shake so much I can't write with no pressure. Alternating between harder grip, hand on paper pressure and elbow on table pressure can help ease off the nib. I love the stiffness of the pelikan m800. Franklin Christoph steel nibs are crazy stiff. At least mine is.

nice comparision!

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason! Hope you were able to get something out of this comparison!

"Fine" or if available, "Extra Fine" for my uses/needs. 😇👍 I write fairly small.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Same, I write small for most occasions, but sometimes, journaling is very nice with a broader nib. If I had to choose only one, I'd probably go with Fine as well! :)

Which would be most like the Pilot Kakuno medium, would you say?

@KenchanKrafts

11 ай бұрын

I do not have a Kakuno to compare with my Custom 823, but I would say that the Pilot C823's Medium nib is slightly broader than the rest of their steel Medium nibs since the gold nib is softer and would write broader in general as it is a gold nib. I might get a Kakuno M just to test and compare for future videos, but based on what I've seen in other videos, a Kakuno Medium appears to write in between the Custom 823 Fine and Medium.

@nlamproplos

11 ай бұрын

@KenchanKrafts Thanks for your response. I have a few higher end pens, but out of the box not one wrote as well as my Kakuno! The only gold nibbed Pilot I have is an e95s in medium, which is so wet it writes like a broad.

Great video. Thank you. Helped me make a decision on which nib to go for. Is there much feedback with either pen?

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Hey there! Thanks so much for watching and I'm super happy that it helped you out! You can check out my feedback short video comparing 3 Japanese brand nibs. It shows the Fine tip for the custom and its feedback. The medium has almost no feedback as it is very smooth, but the fine has just a touch of feedback. Hope that helps!

@penthevision4706

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Really good videos

Can you tell me about the ink name use in Leonardo… It’s excellent…

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's Pelikan Edelstein Apatite! It's one of my favorite Turquoise inks! You can see it better in my First Pen of 2023 video where I showcase that pen and ink :)

@abhishekpanja4363

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for you reply. I have custom 74 (M) but I am not happy with it because it’s nib draw comparatively thick line then my sailor 1911 (HM) . When I wrote with 1911 I can feel it & give me good feedback & grip on paper , which is absolutely missing in custom 74. So I am unhappy with 74. Now I am thinking to by 823 but the problem is M or F ? I can’t decide. (As you use sailor, custom 823 M & F , so I hope it will be easy for you) Can you help regarding this problem??

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@abhishekpanja4363 You're welcome! If you like feedback, there's nothing better than the Sailor nibs. Most pilot nibs are relatively smooth and have little feedback. I will say both 823 F and M write very smoothly with little feedback, but it's like a whisper soft feedback. It is there. But it is very smooth, so you might not like them since they'll most likely be as smooth as your 74 :) I don't have a 74 so I cannot compare their feedback for you. But I can do a little short to showcase the sound you can hear from writing with the 823 Fine :) since you like fine lines, do not get the 823 Medium.

@abhishekpanja4363

Жыл бұрын

I am shocked by your prompt , sincere answer.❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏 So it’s better to check in offline store then online. Because I can test it there - but definitely I test 823 in fine.

@abhishekpanja4363

Жыл бұрын

I am waiting to listen the sound… ❤❤❤❤

coming from a lamy safari (f) and im torn between the 823 (f) and the pro gear (mf). most say that the sailor 21k nib is too hard for a gold nib so they opt for the 823 which was according to them is a better writting experience. i like the pro gear flat cap design more than the traditional cigar shape, but i priotize functionality first than aesthetics. seeing that you both own a 823 and a pro gear, which do you like most? can anyone help me decide since i don't have the luxury of trying this pens out because there's no such place here to do so. tia.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Hi! Yes that is always so frustrating to be indecisive with so many reviews and people's experiences may not become the same as yours might be. But for me, I started with lamy as well. I thought those were smooth. And then I got my first MF sailor and it was so different because of the high feedback. After writing with Sailors more, I believe they are smoother than Lamys but they feel nowhere as smooth as the Custom 823 f and m. I assure you, you will come to love the classic cigar shape of the custom 823 when you write with it. I think the amber in fine would be a great choice. If you truly want flat top, I believe you can probably go for the pilot custom heritage in a fine nib! I don't think they are as smooth as the 823 though, but it's pilot. It's bound to still be smooth!

@bloodbane21

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your inputs, im already leaning towards the 823 seeing most users like them so much, i was looking for someone like you who own both pens since most people only have the pilots and only tried the sailor for a little bit. guess i only need a little nudge from someone who use both of these pens with more/longer experience with them. truly it's hard to pick when you can't test them for yourself and these pens aren't that cheap to try ang wing it, coming from a safari to these pens is a huge leap for me. thanks again for your inputs you've earned my sub, will get the 823 (f) probably in transparent black and the iroshizuku syo-ro.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodbane21 That's wonderful! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts with me! Syo-ro is such a beautiful teal color, I have yet to try it in one of my pens these days to test how I like the color, but I know it will flow well in any pen, especially in Pilots. I hope you will come to love your new 823 smoke black when you get it!! Let me know when you write with it and let me know if you have any other pen questions I can answer through more future videos!

@bloodbane21

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again for the infos and inputs, this video really helped me alot, specially on the comparison of line thickness, though I end up getting the custom 845 due to fact that my wife gave me additional funds and said I should get the one I like both in appearance and function.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodbane21 That's wonderful!! Yes, the 845 is a great upgrade to the 823. I love the flat tops more than cigar shapes, so if I could drop that much money on the 845, I will probably get it too in the future!!! Very jealous but tell me how you love it when it arrives. I'm sure it will be nice and smooth. Did you get the red or black one?

what ink was in the #3 vanishing point F?

@KenchanKrafts

3 ай бұрын

That’s Pilot 100th anniversary ink - Jurojin! Thanks for asking :)

I wonder if the ink makes the M 823 broader...

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no xD I have used a very dry ink in my Amber 823 Medium before and the current ink is FWP Steeped Umber, which is an average flowing ink. Both wrote in the same line widths and both flowed out very nicely because the C823 has a very well flowing feed and nib. The line width is just that much bigger in general. You can see that the Fine writes very thinly even with a wet ink like Pilot Iroshizuku, and probably slightly thinner with a less wet ink. The 823 Medium does allow you to see more of an ink's properties, though, so I appreciate that about the thicker line that it makes.

@Shak-MD

Жыл бұрын

@KenchanKrafts I like it. I have 823 in broad and M, and 845 in M. F is somehow hard to come by. The feeds are nice. Can even keep up okay with the FA nib I swapped from a 743.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@Shak-MD That's so interesting, I don't know if I'll ever venture off into other Pilot custom pens, since I am very happy with the Custom 823 :) But, I do want a falcon nib someday. You have your FA nib in the 823 or 845?

@Shak-MD

Жыл бұрын

@KenchanKrafts I have tried them on both as they are super eas to swap. I now have two FA nibs on two 823s...I love them. I do find the 18k nib on 845 the smoothest of them all though.

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

@@Shak-MD The 5 on the 845 probably means it's in the 500 dollar range xD (or at least, 50,000 yen). Is that urushi or just their higher end Custom pen?

Mind you but it's actually the western nibs that are broader and Japanese nibs are thinner

@KenchanKrafts

10 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right! I realize the way I was describing it in that part of the video was a confusing way to articulate what I meant, but that is how I understand it, too. Western Mediums are typically a Japanese Broad, therefore, Japanese nibs need to be 1 size up to match with the western nibs. I think that was what I was trying express, but apologies if how I said it was confusing! (the text in the video to clarify myself probably didn't help either!)

Reminder, you will VOID your warranty if you disassemble the 823

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

That's true! I forgot to mention that in the part about disassembling it to relubricate, but that also most likely won't happen until after the limited warranty is up. I purchased mine from Japan, so it does not have international warranty with it anyways. But for folks who do buy it from a retailer with a warranty card, disassembly will void the warranty. But again, the relubrication probably won't need to happen for a long time.

@learnmathwithme3864

10 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts you can lubricate the rod. no need to disassemble.

@KenchanKrafts

10 ай бұрын

@@learnmathwithme3864 Hmm, you're right! That is very true, thank you for that tip! I will add that in the description box section.

Why do you have so many pens, they are all the same aren't they? What do you write with them all?

@KenchanKrafts

3 ай бұрын

Hey there! Are you new here to fountain pens and the hobby? Fountain pens can become a hobby of collecting different pens that are made of different materials and look different. They do sometimes write differently, too. Not every single one puts down the same line width. Some prefer a broader width and others much thinner (like mechanical pencil leads of .5, .7, or 1.0 lead sizes). And yes, at the end of the day, they all do the same thing - write, but like any other hobby - such as collecting keyboards or watches, etc. - they all do the same thing, you just end up liking to have multiple that suit your liking. And over time, these pens can be sold to others when you don't like certain ones anymore and retain a good portion of their value. I use them to plan, jot down notes, journal, reflect, and just doodling. Different pens can hold different colored inks so that I don't have to change inks in one pen constantly. But you don't have to do any of those, you can simply just have 1 fountain pen and be content with that, too!

A little too short, but I understand you're trying out a different format. I think 15m is the sweet spot, but that's just my opinion. You have the Google data scientists telling you what I want. :-)

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Haha you've got jokes. I'll try my very best to get 15m worth of lines for you! Thanks for stopping by and watching 😀

Why go back and forward when trying to draw a single line? Why? 🤷‍♀️

@KenchanKrafts

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that was an honest mistake and I will improve on this for future videos if I compare pens again :) Thanks for your input!

I feel like you cap your pens too tight.

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

Looking back at the pens section I think I do cap my platinum century too tightly and the custom 823 when I untwisted them both. Otherwise I am generally pretty light with closing the rest of my screw cap pens. The platinum has a slip and seal so I will need to test to see if it seals itself tightly or if I’m screwing it too tightly myself. Thanks for noticing that piece of detail, Mikey!

I really tried to enjoy your video, but your movement of your hands was just so distracting! 823s are great writing fountain pens, and I am considering getting another in a F nib, vs a M nib. Look, I don’t have a KZread channel, and haven’t a clue to how difficult it may be to produce a video. If I would suggest anything, it’s to always do a practice run through before you shoot the video. If the object is to educate & inform, then know your material as best you can, practice losing movements that are distracting from that goal. It’s our eyes that pull in the most information, not what we hear. Your audio seemed good though 👍. I’ve only watched this one of your videos, and will view a few more. Thanks for the effort.

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

Hello, thank you for your suggestions. I will definitely take them into account as I continue to learn and grow in my video making. I will admit that I talk with my hands a lot and it shows on camera and that it can be distracting for some, but I believe a lot of people talk with their hands in this hobby, as well. This is the first time I've heard that my hand movements are too much for someone to enjoy my video. For clarity sake, I can most definitely work on creating less hand movements on my more educational/helpful videos, but I think most people could still appreciate the spirit of my intentions in sharing my experiences so that they can make a better and more informed decision.

@strshooter7399

6 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts Thank you for your reply. Of course, many times gestures are very appropriate depending on your subject matter. Your voice was very pleasant to listen to, and the spirit of your presentation was not lost on me. I spent … 8 years or so as a classroom instructor in the US Navy, teaching (or attempting to instruct 🥴) courses related to aspects of aircraft maintenance (mostly). Our training group ~ 6-8 instructors also taught a (2) week training course to “teach” others how to instruct. That was 25 years ago, but watching so many videos put out on KZread, it’s difficult not to critique. Please don’t take my small suggestion in the wrong way. Sometimes just a tweak here and there makes a so so presentation into something really good, even great. My time as an instructor was difficult at the beginning (stayed that way pretty much, but I got used to being in front of a group after some time, and did improve) I was not always or did not shine every time I was on the podium… 🤷‍♂️… Thank you again for your response, and please forgive me if by what I said had upset you. sincerely 😔

@KenchanKrafts

6 ай бұрын

@@strshooter7399 I do appreciate the suggestions. After the initial shock of knowing my presentation put you off that much based on your first remark, I focused more on what mattered most in your comments - what I can do to improve and how to make a better viewing experience for my subscribers. I welcome suggestions and comments that are constructive and I did find your feedback constructive regardless of how it came off. I can see your predisposition for giving your input to help others now so thank you for sharing that. Trust me I do my best to try different things and improve to make my videos enjoyable for you guys. I appreciate you taking the time to watch it and hope you can continue to watch more in the future! 😎🥰

@strshooter7399

6 ай бұрын

I will watch more, and your attitude on your channel will take you far I am sure. Your voice is really smooth, and easy to listen to. To me, that's a plus. 🙂 @@KenchanKrafts

👌👌👌😍🤎

@KenchanKrafts

4 ай бұрын

🙈😻 thanks for watching! And yes, The Amber one is definitely gorgeous!

@anil4nature

4 ай бұрын

@@KenchanKrafts Hmmm YES😍🥰🤎🧡🌈

Sir, Can you provide me pilot japan email address…please

@KenchanKrafts

10 ай бұрын

pilotpen.us/CustomerService - this is the USA Pilot Pens site for customer service. I'm not sure if Pilot Japan will respond to you if it's regarding pen services/repairs/warranty and if you do not live in Japan. I also cannot find their customer service site or email, so, sorry about that. But whoever you bought your Pilot Custom or Pilot pen from, you can email them for more help!

@abhishekpanja4363

10 ай бұрын

The shop owner indirectly want to say to by a new one. So ugly mentality. By this way he loose a genuine consumer. One 50ml iroshizuku bottle become empty within 3-4 months. You can imagine how often I purchase ink from him. Still he showing this type of mentality. I am frustrated now. I think after using 823 no fountain pen give me such a feeling which I desire. My heart & hand miss him badly 😒😒😒😒

@KenchanKrafts

10 ай бұрын

@@abhishekpanja4363 Aww!! I'm so happy you love the Pilot Custom 823 so much!! It truly is a joy to write with and it's sooooo good at writing. Ultra smooth with perfect feedback. What happened to your pen, if I may ask? If you also bought your custom 823 from Japan, that is the grey market, and that does not come with a warranty. If your pen is broken in any way at any time, you'll have to buy a new one. No retailer that is authorized to sell Pilot pens should ever respond to you in the way you mentioned there if your pen is within warranty. But it does sound like you purchased yours from Japan like me.

@abhishekpanja4363

10 ай бұрын

No sir I purchased it from a pen shop in Kolkata .

@KenchanKrafts

10 ай бұрын

@@abhishekpanja4363 Ah, so it is outside of the US, so US Pilot won't be able to help either. I'm sorry to hear that. If you repurchase it again, make sure you ask if it comes with warranty and who you can call/email when tragedies happen again :) I hope you get to write with him again someday soon! ♥