Medieval Two Handed Swords (zweihander, montante, spadone) - Context Part 1: Weight & Size

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I feel that two-handed swords (otherwise known as greatswords, zweihander, montante, spadone etc) are a little misunderstood. They are not simply extra-long longswords, or at least lots of them are not. They have distinctive characteristics and methods of use.
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  • @thomasfisk2467
    @thomasfisk24673 жыл бұрын

    Cannot overstate how disappointed I was to hear that 'bearing swords' are used neither against or by bears.

  • @crowhaveninc.2103

    @crowhaveninc.2103

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can change that! Go buy one, or start a fundraiser for you to get one, grow a beard and take that big boy into the wilderness!

  • @petev.6598

    @petev.6598

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bearing swords are used by bears only.

  • @markbyrd7710

    @markbyrd7710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@casbot71 we're not talking about grizzlies anymore are we...

  • @casbot71

    @casbot71

    3 жыл бұрын

    A variation on _"the right to bare arms"?_ 🐻💪💪

  • @MrAranton

    @MrAranton

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can still use them against bearings. Though I'm not sure how bearings would use any sword at all...

  • @blakewinter1657
    @blakewinter16573 жыл бұрын

    'It's not a polearm, because it doesn't have a pole!' Well, you can't argue with that!

  • @KingdomOfDimensions
    @KingdomOfDimensions3 жыл бұрын

    "Relatively briefly" Never change, Matt

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, relatively...

  • @adriaanvanwyk662

    @adriaanvanwyk662

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, compared to certain Warhammer 40K vids I've watched this is relatively brief.

  • @kazikek2674

    @kazikek2674

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favorite video length tends to be 10-35 minutes, so Matt usually gets to have all of my attention to what he produces.

  • @HoJu1989

    @HoJu1989

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was brief within context

  • @The_Gallowglass

    @The_Gallowglass

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brevity is for Spartans. Where are they now? :P

  • @keremdenizbasruh8894
    @keremdenizbasruh88943 жыл бұрын

    I sense a disturbance in the force, as if a thousand metatrons cried in frustration to the word 'ceremonial' and then silenced

  • @thelibrarian6976

    @thelibrarian6976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swords are cerimonial, and armours are useless😂😂😜

  • @Vlad_Tepes_III

    @Vlad_Tepes_III

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thelibrarian6976 Words are ceremonial, actions are useless.

  • @Vlad_Tepes_III

    @Vlad_Tepes_III

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thelibrarian6976 Lords are ceremonial, Doom is eternal.

  • @Vlad_Tepes_III

    @Vlad_Tepes_III

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thelibrarian6976 Ok, I'll stop now.

  • @tlsgrz6194
    @tlsgrz61943 жыл бұрын

    For me, the „Longsword“ ends when the weapon can’t reasonably be carried on the hip.

  • @fattiger6957

    @fattiger6957

    3 жыл бұрын

    So to Shaq or Andre the Giant, a Zweihander is a longsword and a longsword is a arming sword.

  • @AngloSaxonElf

    @AngloSaxonElf

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. I think it is better to name swords based on how they are used. A two-handed sword worn as a sidearm could be called a longsword, whereas a two-handed sword that is carried (and intended more as a primary weapon) could be called a greatsword. This avoids the problem of drawing a line where longswords end and greatswords begin.

  • @tl8211

    @tl8211

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fattiger6957 Yes? I mean, it makes sense. Small people probably would carry slightly miniaturized swords.

  • @cwmyr

    @cwmyr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup I would then also argue that a longsword can still be considered a side weapon, whereas a Schlachtschwert can not. There is a 16th century German woodcut showing a man in full armour with a big two hander in the hand and a small two hander (longsword) on the hip.

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    Big iron on his hip.

  • @angusguitarhero
    @angusguitarhero3 жыл бұрын

    I believe historically in germany those swords were offen called "Schlachtschwert", wich translate to "battle sword"

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I always forget that term when I'm filming.

  • @brittakriep2938

    @brittakriep2938

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a german, i have to note that ,Schlachtschwert' could also be translated as ,butchering sword'. But of course butchers do not use swords.

  • @Malilus

    @Malilus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scholagladiatoria if I'm right they were also called "Gassenhauer"(german) wich means someting like: sword to cut alleys into enemy lines or "alley basher"

  • @killerkraut9179

    @killerkraut9179

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brittakriep2938 Schlacht can mean Battle as well . then more Battle sword .

  • @ariantes221

    @ariantes221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scholagladiatoria There is also the "Richtschwert" or "Henkersschwert" in german, which were judically used 2 handed swords, ie. for beheading people. They tended to have shorter blades (80-100 cm) than a Bidenhander tho.

  • @KirkWilliams300
    @KirkWilliams3003 жыл бұрын

    I find it so funny how video games and movies misrepresent these types of weapons as slow cumbersome sticks of metal even though in real life they were pretty elegant and required a high amount of dexterity (Dark Souls joke not lost on me here)

  • @KirkWilliams300

    @KirkWilliams300

    3 жыл бұрын

    Marko Botic I would say rapiers and Spears especially with shielded attacks and katanas have relatively serviceable move sets in comparison to great swords but yeah most weapons aren’t done the justice they deserve (edit: speaking mostly on Dark Souls but outside of this I can agree all weapons in other forms of media you are right)

  • @NikozBG

    @NikozBG

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bows being dexterity type weapons is also such an annoying gaming bs

  • @kazikek2674

    @kazikek2674

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some of it is balancing reasons, of course, however certain gaming conventions are just misrepresenting things a whole lot.

  • @fattiger6957

    @fattiger6957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the video game evolved from D&D table top games which pretty much seemed to get everything wrong about arms and armour.

  • @xidarian

    @xidarian

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw a mod for a game, can't remember which one, that allowed you to wield all one handed swords with two hands. It would do more damage but be slower. How the hell was it supposed to be slower?!?! It should be faster, more powerful, and more accurate but prevent you from using a shield.

  • @gloriousdio8681
    @gloriousdio86813 жыл бұрын

    You don't need to worry about your pronounciation of Zweihänder, it was spot one, Mr Easton

  • @l.o.b.2433

    @l.o.b.2433

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why's the one German here a JoJo's fan?

  • @gloriousdio8681

    @gloriousdio8681

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@l.o.b.2433 I could bring up the german science meme, but I will answer your question with another one : why not?

  • @falkheerdeburg3152

    @falkheerdeburg3152

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@l.o.b.2433 I wonder what symbol/letter is on your keybord instead of "Ä"," Ö", "Ü"....

  • @l.o.b.2433

    @l.o.b.2433

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@falkheerdeburg3152 Well it's Ä, Ö and Ü. Since I'm German too.

  • @Uellp

    @Uellp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@falkheerdeburg3152 The English layout has keys for all the symbols you get only with Alt Gr on a German keybord: @|~\{[]}. They are shuffled around, it's not an exact replacement.

  • @murphybarrett4943
    @murphybarrett49433 жыл бұрын

    At 6:25 you say there's no answer to when a longsword becomes a greatsword. I would like to suggest to you that that point is when the sword has become too big to wear. That is, when it is so long that you can no longer draw it from your side. Of course there is still some ambiguity there, as that means that the same sword may for one person be a large longsword and another a small greatsword, but relative to the proportions of the body I and a few of my HEMA buddies I've debated with think this is a reasonable definition, both based on how swords were named historically and how they were used. Your thoughts?

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well that is what I have said in previous videos. It's one way of classifying them, but it's not really scientific. It might work as a general rule though.

  • @casbot71

    @casbot71

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fattiger6957 True, the Mountain would probably consider this a broad sword…or even a arming sword

  • @koryheitkam1443

    @koryheitkam1443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Go watch Shadiverity's video on distinguishing sword types

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm about a foot shorter than you, a sword too big for me to wear would be easily in your range, and someone as big to you as you are to me would find your greatsword easily slung from their hip.

  • @HaNsWiDjAjA

    @HaNsWiDjAjA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scholagladiatoria Is that Arms & Armor English Two Hander too long for you to wear from your belt?

  • @iopklmification
    @iopklmification3 жыл бұрын

    A suggestion for a future video: talk about cav on cav fights in battles, because I have trouble imagining how it happened...did they try to have their horses continusly moving and therefore didn't respect any formation? If so how did the 1st rank expect to survive? I mean if they went through the enemy formation they would have to block the spears of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd rank and so on... If the cav formations stopped against each other, how did they fight? Spears, swords? Assuming their horses weren't fully armored, how did they manage to protect them? Sometimes we read in battles accounts that the cavalry charges, regroups and charges again several times...why did the enemy cav allow this?

  • @pp-wo1sd

    @pp-wo1sd

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have heard of this idea , I think it was napoleonic themed video (possibly lindybeige) , but I don't see why it couldn't be applied in other eras : Bassically a big game of chicken two cavalry units start moving towards each other looking as threatening as they can trying to make the other unit turn tail and run . If neither chickens out rinse and repeat . Another idea is that they would move parallel to each other taking potshots at each other (kinda like a big joust) As for stopping against each other , there are some ancient sources (cannae comes to mind) talking about this sort of combat taking place (implying it wasn't very common) in which they would close ranks and fight as infantry (don't know if they dismounted or stayed mounted). The usual reason why is lack of space for manouvering . Horses were very much at risk and there are stories about nobles who had several horses killed under them during a battle .

  • @fattiger6957

    @fattiger6957

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pp-wo1sd Wasn't there such a thing as mounted infantry? Like they use the horses just to get where they need to go quickly, then dismount to fight.

  • @pp-wo1sd

    @pp-wo1sd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fattiger6957 In later periods yes , but they were mostly skirmishers , they were not meant to fight in melee (prominent examples are mounted longbowmen , crossbowmen etc. and during the pike and shot era the dragoons ) . What you are describing did happen but in the (mostly) bronze age with chariots . Nobility would use chariots to get into battle fight for a bit , if things weren't looking good they'd hop back on the chariot and run away . The ancient britons favoured this way of fighting .

  • @fattiger6957

    @fattiger6957

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pp-wo1sd Ah, okay. So that's what Caesar meant about the Britons using chariots.

  • @mattfriend000

    @mattfriend000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fattiger6957 chariots were used in battle for drive by spear throwing and archery. Engaging in a charge with chariots would be extremely hazardous.

  • @mallardtheduck406
    @mallardtheduck4063 жыл бұрын

    That is a nice looking Windlass two-handed longsword, I like the blue leather grip.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot713 жыл бұрын

    This is the wrong house for zombies to try and overrun…

  • @chadfalardeau3259

    @chadfalardeau3259

    3 жыл бұрын

    So is Jeorg Sprave' s

  • @Riceball01

    @Riceball01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chadfalardeau3259 Along with the Metatron and Skallagrim. It also wouldn't be good idea to break into the house owned by Matt of Demo Ranch.

  • @chadfalardeau3259

    @chadfalardeau3259

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or any one who has weapons

  • @gurthangorcus
    @gurthangorcus3 жыл бұрын

    If you get a chance to go to Dresden, go to the Rüstkammer (Armory) in the Residenzschloss. The parade armory section has an entire wall of Bidenhänder (as they call them) that range from "regularly" large to an actually ceremonial one that weighed 8.6 kilos!

  • @brotherandythesage
    @brotherandythesage3 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Matt! I like Shad's definition of when a long sword becomes a great sword (my terms anyway) and that's when you can no longer use the long sword as a long sword.

  • @andrewrobinson4019
    @andrewrobinson40192 жыл бұрын

    “I’m going to talk, relatively briefly, about…” Part 1. Classic Matt.

  • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
    @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique3 жыл бұрын

    The problem with wide guards, is it'll hit your forearms on certain attacks. I prefer the Scandanavian greatsword type XVIIIe, guard not as wide and points towards opponent's incoming blade.

  • @RGDoTB

    @RGDoTB

    Жыл бұрын

    It happens when u don't know how to use them correctly 😅

  • @TheBurningLion
    @TheBurningLion3 жыл бұрын

    How on earth does anyone dislike this video? Love your work Matt, always excited to watch a new video from you

  • @BZRKIR
    @BZRKIR3 жыл бұрын

    The zweihander is sometimes colloquially referred to as the "bass cannon," although the origin is unclear to historians who never leveled strength. On a serious note, what resources would you then say are better suited for "great sword" techniques?

  • @PalleRasmussen

    @PalleRasmussen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Search for the channel "Montante Nino". That guy has really good form and footwork and shows techniques from manuals that he names.

  • @DukeJuki
    @DukeJuki3 жыл бұрын

    I take after Francesco Alfieri's definition, in that the sword is a "spadone" when it is "at least four palms in the handle" or four of your own palm widths long. However big the blade is, if it needs a grip that long, it's a greatsword .

  • @smokerxluffy
    @smokerxluffy3 жыл бұрын

    I have the Windlass English Two Hand sword. Its quite alright, but I do not think it works for most of the montante or spadone manuals due to how short the hilt is and behaves more like a beefy longsword than anything else, but I am a pretty big guy. That said, I have found that for Fiore you really want a short longsword, something that you can use comfortably with one hand, due to Fiores preference with Stretto. Also the hilt shrank and began to rattle so I had to crack it open and remake it, which was a slight annoyance. The tang looked pretty sturdy, though, so getting to know that was an arguable positive.

  • @Zilegil
    @Zilegil3 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to hear about your past projects more. It sounds like you’ve worked on a lotta things, archeology, film, etc

  • @steff-the-ghoul
    @steff-the-ghoul3 жыл бұрын

    In Germany we also call them "Gassenhauer" which means alleyhitter roughly translated. They are called this because they where often used to hit spears away and make an alley for the troops coming behind.

  • @jcastle614
    @jcastle6143 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation as always sir! Very interesting, especially when you can put things in context for me . ie.. time period such as specific wars and battle's that a perticular weapon was used in . War of the rose's, hundred years war etc.. 😁🤺🇺🇸🇬🇧

  • @HoJu1989
    @HoJu19893 жыл бұрын

    I remember a particular montante technique (from a manual by a Portuguese author named Godinho) based entirely around thrusts. Esentially it was a way of fighting multiple opponents closing in from both sides of a very, very narrow alley (as in less than a meter wide) that wouldn't allow you to do cuts at all

  • @paultowl1963
    @paultowl19633 жыл бұрын

    That’s a nice looking example. Looking forward to the full review. Good info, too

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh3 жыл бұрын

    How about some promo t-shirts and stickers: "Easton Arms: Swords so great you'll have to use both hands".

  • @valandil7454
    @valandil74543 жыл бұрын

    That sword's beautiful I couldn't take my eyes off it

  • @cwmyr
    @cwmyr3 жыл бұрын

    Most common German period term is actually „Schlachtschwert“ (battle sword).

  • @freestatefellow
    @freestatefellow3 жыл бұрын

    Ooooo. I’m excited to hear your thoughts on that Miadao manual. If I remember rightly, that manual uses them as part of a weapons system along with a knife and crossbow.

  • @katanamaru1
    @katanamaru13 жыл бұрын

    The windlass two-hander is back!? It was discontinued a few years ago and I missed it! Gonna get it after I see your review.

  • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346
    @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis43463 жыл бұрын

    It is a bliss to watch you waving around with a sword. Please more of that just show us some moves with different weapons.

  • @brittakriep2938
    @brittakriep29383 жыл бұрын

    The very big swords used for ceremonies are ,Tragschwerter'. Servants carried them to impress people, simply to show: an important nobleman is coming.

  • @diredog
    @diredog3 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered if montante/spadone/twohanders can be used in plate armor? for what i understand, there is need to have quite big mobility in upper body and arms, and most techniques involved going over your head with your arms? does plate and big helmets impede the movement of using such a big sword?

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    It depends on the specific armour. With 'Gothic' German harness you probably wouldn't have too much trouble. After all, you can use a pollaxe in most kinds of armour. However you are certainly slower and get hot/tired quicker in full armour.

  • @diredog

    @diredog

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scholagladiatoria I saw Emile Anderson montante drills from Swordfish 2014, and that was what get me guessing. The movement of hands and hilt was so close to the head, i struggle to imagine how it would be possible in helmet or with pauldrons. i need to look into how much gothic plate was articulate in that area then.

  • @brotherandythesage

    @brotherandythesage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Landsknecht's who used zweihanders tended to be more lightly armored if the artwork can be believed. More heavily armored men used poleaxes.

  • @ethankendall9499
    @ethankendall94993 жыл бұрын

    I have heard the term "war sword" used as a name for these types of swords that seem to be bigger than a longsword and smaller than a zweihander. Didnt know if that was correct or just someone's opinion.

  • @dougsinthailand7176

    @dougsinthailand7176

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that refers to the wider-bladed type XIII longswords.

  • @heretyk_1337

    @heretyk_1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too- and i am very interested in that, because big longswords are my favourite :) i don`t like two handers(fussy, i know)- they are wider, look more clunky, while tapering longsword is just poetry to me. Not to mention that those swords often have side rings or "S" shaped crossguards, which are aesthetically pleasing to me... I think that the rule of thumb, regarding warswords(which is new classification) was something along the line of still being able to do all techniques of longsword, so it depends from person to person(height) but generally if sword`s point was put on the ground- maximum height, that pommel could reach, was armpit of the owner. Anything above that is no longer capable of doing all the techniques of longsword, without hitting the ground. But i could be wrong here...

  • @IIIAnchani
    @IIIAnchani2 жыл бұрын

    your pronunciation is really good! Only one thing about the word "Bidenhänder" - it's pronounced "beedenhänder", becuas in Germany we pronounce an i like you pronounce "ee" like in bee. Also there's the name "Gassenhauer" which means "alleyslasher" for Zweihänder in Germany. So it's Zweihänder, Bidenhänder, Gassenhauer as the main names for these types of swords. It's interesting that we actually got 3 names for the same thing, but it's reasonable, as it was used a LOT by german Landsknechte.

  • @EmilReiko
    @EmilReiko3 жыл бұрын

    Slagsværd is the old term in Denmark, translate roughly to battlesword. I ran across the term while running through som muster listings in old history books years ago. There is a simmilar term Schlachtschwerter in german afaik.

  • @ilejovcevski79
    @ilejovcevski793 жыл бұрын

    That is a beautiful sword! Can't wait for the review..... P.S. I was always curious about this large longsword-like weapons, as they seam to be often misrepresented in both fiction and literature in general

  • @carveorpawley4406
    @carveorpawley44063 жыл бұрын

    Picked up one of those two-handers a couple of years ago. for the money I've found it to be a good sword solidly built. Just need to have plenty of space when cutting with it.

  • @Dennis-vh8tz
    @Dennis-vh8tz3 жыл бұрын

    I'd draw the line between longsword and two handed sword based on whether or not it can be worn as a sidearm. If the you can wear the sword in a scabbard on your belt and draw it reasonably quickly and easily, it's a longsword. If it's too long to do so, it's a two handed sword.

  • @chriswaters2327
    @chriswaters23273 жыл бұрын

    Very nice sword looks very functional.

  • @timothyissler3815
    @timothyissler38153 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved big swords like this, and now I can get treated to a multi-part in-depth explanation by Captain Context himself?! Permit me to jump for joy.

  • @lowenblade4088
    @lowenblade40883 жыл бұрын

    Were there any curved extra-long longswords in the Medieval period?

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there are types of very large messer. They have examples in Vienna.

  • @IPostSwords

    @IPostSwords

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scholagladiatoria I came across that Vienna example without knowing it was in that museum and had a double take when I saw it. It's massive.

  • @somerando1073

    @somerando1073

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is also the Swiss Saber, though that's probably more longsword length than larger.

  • @kazikek2674
    @kazikek26743 жыл бұрын

    While not quite a "professional" distinction, I sort of enjoyed and agreed with Shad's suggestion that "greatswords" are not quite "used like swords" anymore and that they'd be classified as sword that are 'too big to draw when sheathed at your waist'.

  • @mysticonthehill
    @mysticonthehill3 жыл бұрын

    In India as well what two handed swords exist there were considered weapons of last resort when isolated and surrounded. So it seems everyone was pretty much in agreement when a two handed best served you.

  • @jwilliams5256
    @jwilliams52563 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your videos, I enjoy a lot of them. If you get a chance to play the VR game Tales of Glory, I think some one like you would have a blast in there.

  • @wendigo1619
    @wendigo16193 жыл бұрын

    Theres also a Romphia, a very long Falx that goes up to the warriors shoulder

  • @BilboniousBagODonuts
    @BilboniousBagODonuts3 жыл бұрын

    Newer sub, loving the sheer amount of content you have. For a history nerd that gets to listen to a lot of audio day to day, it's fantastic.

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome aboard!

  • @orphidian11
    @orphidian113 жыл бұрын

    where's the part 2 to this?

  • @AcidbrainwashEffect
    @AcidbrainwashEffect3 жыл бұрын

    12 guys with bill hooks and/or glaives would chop up 12 with 2 handers. Good video...nicely detailed.

  • @tommystratpaul
    @tommystratpaul3 жыл бұрын

    Hey you fantastic man! 🔥I just inherited a 1822 Sabre from my uncle, but I struggle with identifying the exact information on it. Would you be able to help in any way shape of form? Taking a chance here that you’ll see this, as I really enjoyed your video on the 1822 sabres, and would love your expertise on this!

  • @nicorepetto5781
    @nicorepetto57813 жыл бұрын

    Already a long time subscriber but I got recommended this because it said ‘Ramsey Dewey viewers also watch this’. Hello Ramsey Dewey fans.

  • @NateGLJ
    @NateGLJ3 жыл бұрын

    That windlass reproduction looks like a longer alexandria collection principe but not as beefy in width. Coincidentally the alexandria collection principe was also used in the later half of the hundred years war.

  • @shaidrim
    @shaidrim3 жыл бұрын

    I have a question: by Oakeshott typology, model xiiia can be considered a great or even two handed sword with its first appearance, even if not common, around 12th century. Aren’t they classifiable as spadone?

  • @CDKohmy

    @CDKohmy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the same question.

  • @JustGrowingUp84

    @JustGrowingUp84

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't see it. It's the same length as the other longswords, it has a short handle and short guard. For me it's obviously just a longsword or bastard with a wide, cut oriented blade. Lower in this post you will find some pictures of original swords: myarmoury.com/feature_spotxiii.html

  • @mathis6744
    @mathis67443 жыл бұрын

    The french name for those swords is « espadon » and i believe it is derived from the italian « spadone ». the word « espadon » refers also to the swordfish. In fact most french people only know about the swordfish meaning of the word. I am absolutly not certain that the word espadon was used back then so Feel free to correct me if i’m wrong and excuse me for my english it is not my native Language.

  • @Beiolos
    @Beiolos3 жыл бұрын

    I love these, MOAR

  • @anghelovidiu3362
    @anghelovidiu33623 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait for the review

  • @rolandscherer1574
    @rolandscherer15743 жыл бұрын

    The really big Zwei-Haender or Bi-Haender are also called Gassenhauer by the Landsknechte (=mercenaries ). Gasse=a narrow street between houses in a town (alley?), Hauer is the noun derivated from the verb hauen=to beat So Gassenhauer makes an alley into the enemy lines.

  • @blauu6
    @blauu63 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, I'm a long time watcher but recent patron and I wanted to ask you a question about things like these in the 'context' of a person like myself. I am 6'7" (Just over 2 meters), and rather heavily built (IE not slim, built for strength) at 270lbs (120kg?). I was wondering how suited a weapon like this would be for someone like me as a fencing weapon. Would I be better off with the reach and heft of this weapon? Or something closer to a longsword, just more easily due to its relatively smaller size to me than an average individual? Basically, TLDR, If someone is far above average sized are they better off using an oversized weapon or a normal sized one?

  • @dougsinthailand7176

    @dougsinthailand7176

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd say it depends on if your opponent's proportions match your own.

  • @MrAranton

    @MrAranton

    3 жыл бұрын

    In German some swords are called "Anderthalbhänder" or "Bastardschwert" (which translates to "One-and-a-half-handed sword" or "bastard-sword"). Users of those shifted between one- and two-handed use. For someone of your size, swords that were historically referred to as "Zweihänder" or "Two-handed sword" might be wieldable in the one-and-a-half handed fashion. That would greatly expand the techniques you can use and switching between one- and two-handed grips might catch your opponant off guard and confuse them.

  • @book5ter
    @book5ter3 жыл бұрын

    Your pronounciation of Zweihänder is spot on, although the Bidenhänder is prounouced like Bee-Den-Hen-Dur/Der.

  • @shovelchop81bikeralex52
    @shovelchop81bikeralex523 жыл бұрын

    Love the T-shirt! Where did you get it and can they do other options like motorcycles instead of LEGO? Mind you I build a lot of Gundam and 1/6 scratch built custom figures too. Cheers! Oh and my Zweihander appreciates this video and so does my giant hedge!

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger69573 жыл бұрын

    Is there an ideal ratio for longsword length to user's height? I assume a longsword that is perfect for a 5'11" person would be quite unwieldy for someone 6 inches shorter.

  • @trappychan

    @trappychan

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who's short, in my experience, it's way more about the weight (and balance) rather than the length of the sword. My longsword is proportionally equal to Matt's new two-hander, fitting right under my armpit, but i can still move it way quicker and nimbler (like anybody would use a longsword) than he can move the two-hander.

  • @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
    @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour41683 жыл бұрын

    What are you thoughts on the context of the Codex Goliath? I've been longsword fencing with a 43 in blade in order to try to be accurate to the mid 16th century.

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden94053 жыл бұрын

    Your pronunciation of Zweihänder is actually quite impressive. The only little thing to change would be the way you pronounce the ä in the "händer" part of the word. When you have the umlaut over the a, you pronounce it like a short e in English. Thus, "hender" and "Zweihender" is how it should come out.

  • @Cysubtor_8vb
    @Cysubtor_8vb3 жыл бұрын

    As for battlefield weapons you don't generally see in fencing manuals, what's considered the historical approach to fighting with glaive type polearms? Would it simply be a lot of thrusts and 1 or 5 cuts along with some circular parries or does it have more finesse?

  • @Hubert_Cumberdale_
    @Hubert_Cumberdale_3 жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous sword

  • @hubert_c
    @hubert_c3 жыл бұрын

    This fits Vadi’s longsword proportions (pommel reaching the armpit).

  • @scholagladiatoria

    @scholagladiatoria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vadi's proportions are a bit odd, the grip supposedly only being a hand span IIRC.

  • @bencoomer2000
    @bencoomer20003 жыл бұрын

    Been thinking of that sword actually...

  • @jeremiahshine
    @jeremiahshine3 жыл бұрын

    There was a German guy that stressed the "clinch" with the two-handed. He would hold the sword a foot from the tip. Arm bars, wraps, etc... and bashing with both ends

  • @adriangunn
    @adriangunn3 жыл бұрын

    So in the “gray” area what would you consider the the swords in Vadi, Meyer, the Goliath to be? Longswords, 2-H swords, or Yes?

  • @HBOrrgg
    @HBOrrgg3 жыл бұрын

    In English sources I have seen "slaughter sword" or "slaugh sword" or "slaith sword"

  • @MartinGreywolf
    @MartinGreywolf3 жыл бұрын

    The growth in weight is, as matter of fact, an exponential one. You're adding length linearly, that means area of profile expands as some fraction of length squared and volume (and therefore weight, because materials don't change) as a function of length cubed. Granted, 2 and 3 are not terribly high exponents, but it's still exponential. On a more swordy note, there are also executioner's swords - too heavy/clunky to use properly, excellent for chopping off heads on a block. They very often have rounded or square tips.

  • @bongerman42069
    @bongerman420693 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt would you consider the XIIa or XIIIa greatswords of war longswords or greatswords? The weight of the XIIa is close to later period longswords and were seperated from the XIIIa they were originally grouped with due to handling characteristics, and taper and many examples today based on historic examples (the Baron or the late 13th Century Great Sword from Albion both handle well enough to be used with one hand to some extent.) the main problem with using them in the way they are in the treatises is the fact the blade is not as ridged as later period longswords, and the wide blade does not lend well to half-swording.

  • @Relikson
    @Relikson3 жыл бұрын

    A few questions/comments: I imagine when being used like a spear this would work like a spear with a faster/more nimble tip because of the weight being at the rear rather than at the tip like a polearm/spear? Would this give a two handed sword an advantage when facing spears/polearms as they would be able to parry/beat aside the tip heavy polearm and quickly realign the sword tip for a fast thrust? In terms of use compared to longsword, I assume longswords were still a sidesword and backup weapon for a knight with a poleaxe or polearm as their main weapon but this two handed sword would be the main weapon not a backup weapon? These would be designed for fighting multiple opponents/holding choke points or defeating polearms?

  • @louisvictor3473

    @louisvictor3473

    3 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it would handle more nimbly at the tip than a spear. Ignoring the lower mass of a spear and any details of its built (mass and length of the head, is there a counterweight anywhere, etc.) that makes different spears balance differently (but not by far, their weight distribution is kinda uniform since the metal head is also thinner, cancels out the higher density of metal a bunch). The main difference here is how you hold and handle the object. Both are levers, but the long shaft of the spear and the ways you're going to hold it gives so much more leverage it is ridonculous. It also make sit much easier to change the range of the weapon depending where you put your hands on the handle, something that you can't do as readily and easy with sword shapped objects like these, even if half swording.

  • @Dinofaustivoro
    @Dinofaustivoro3 жыл бұрын

    The pointy blade seems made to pierce in armor gaps but the sword is meant to slash. Is it any good against plate or could be to fight multiple light armoured foes? Would it be better with a "type 10" like point?

  • @HarryVoyager
    @HarryVoyager3 жыл бұрын

    I've been curious, is a strong knowledge of long sword technique required of one is interested in the two-hander, or are they sufficiently different that one could start with the latter instead?

  • @MichaelJohnson-qd7cq
    @MichaelJohnson-qd7cq3 жыл бұрын

    Weight should increase as the cube of the linear scaling factor. So if your two handed sword is 10% longer than a long sword then the weight of the two handed sword should be roughly 33% heavier than the long sword, all other things being equal.

  • @CDKohmy
    @CDKohmy3 жыл бұрын

    What sword do you think the Harley text is referring to assuming the 1380/90 date for the poem? What are our thoughts on the idea it is meant for harness? I want a sword that works with French c. 1370s/Scottish (assuming the cotun is a jupon as there are subtle hints of plate leg harness on the effigies) armour.

  • @davidmayo7119
    @davidmayo71193 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the review of the Windless, I've shyed away from windless for awhile due to poor quality and the fact that most of their swords were way over wieght.

  • @raphaelhanna8345
    @raphaelhanna83452 ай бұрын

    Hey Scholagladitoria I want to ask what is the blade thickness of the Wallace Collection A474 I have been dying to find that out?

  • @maselbac
    @maselbac Жыл бұрын

    I would imagine during the time these swords were used it would be like getting fitted for a set of golf clubs... You wouldn't hand this sword to a 5'9 guy and expect him to win a battle.

  • @WereWes
    @WereWes3 жыл бұрын

    Mister Easton, what is your favorite type of two-handed sword you've ever seen or gotten to use? ~Weston ;)

  • @PalleRasmussen

    @PalleRasmussen

    2 жыл бұрын

    His Kvetun Montante no doubt

  • @animistchannel2983
    @animistchannel29833 жыл бұрын

    Both a possible explanation and a question here. Years ago before the /WWW, a historian (who was welsh if it matters) told me that some of the biggest 2-handers weren't just for parade or show. He said they were used inverted/point-down as fending-off weapons to protect cannon emplacements or choke points/doorways in fortresses. The idea was you could swing it if you had to, but it was mostly to be really long and basically jab and intimidate people back from the position until someone else could come scrape them off you from the side, and the full blade made it harder to get past the tip and run up the length of it as one might do to a spear or polearm, because it could cut anywhere along the length as well. Have you heard of this, or does it make sense to you for those situations? It seemed plausible to me at the time; but I don't know what his sources were, or whether such sources would even be found on the WWW today.

  • @narusawa74
    @narusawa743 жыл бұрын

    Looks the Maximillian from Albion. Windlass eh?..... 🤔 Question Matt: what would the older 2 hander used during the Honor duels called " judgement de dieu", look like compared to that more modern sword? I heard about it only in French so I don't know if it was a custom practiced by the English knights too or not.

  • @gaelmichaud8766
    @gaelmichaud87663 жыл бұрын

    Nice shirt, the Lego is a fearsome weapon, often used as a trap or a throwing weapon. When stepping on it, especially in the morning, its destructive ability is multiplied by the number of hours you lack of sleep, inflicting great pain and damage to your feet, thus incapacitating you to fight. Despite the lack of treatises concerning this weapon, it is one the of the most curious weapon in history, used both for hunting and battlefield context, and one of the only hand held weapon to injure an opponent's foot. Curious but effective (yes I have kids and it is one of the things you have to prepare for, never give a child such a deadly weapon, a preventive message from the government)

  • @brotherandythesage

    @brotherandythesage

    3 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid I liked to set them out as traps against intruders. Caught my dad a time or two :)

  • @kuesdav

    @kuesdav

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are(personal experience)especially effective on stairs.

  • @kuesdav

    @kuesdav

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brotherandythesage :) Reluctant thumbs up. I was another dad who got caught a time or three by the dreaded lego. And, although denied, I am absolutely positive one of those times the legos were a trap. Kids, gotta love em. ;)

  • @mickleblade

    @mickleblade

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is outdone by the 3 pin mains plug, designed like a caltrop to always face upwards to incapacitate one's opponent. Brutally effective against the unwary going to the toilet in the middle of the night.

  • @michaelneff2507
    @michaelneff25073 жыл бұрын

    How would that sword hold up in combat against another, or a shield? Or is it ornamental? What steel is it? Tang thickness?

  • @Robert399
    @Robert3993 жыл бұрын

    So how do these compare in use to the Renaissance greatswords? Also is there a good term for them? I've heard "war sword" but I don't know if that's an accepted term and it's also pretty arbitrary.

  • @ericchung2871
    @ericchung28713 жыл бұрын

    I have the old version of that Windlass sword... the Ravenna Sword. It's kinda so-so. Not too heavy but no distal taper and a little flexible. Handle is a little fat too. Guard and pommel are brass painted black. Would like to buy the new one to compare them.

  • @ericchung2871

    @ericchung2871

    3 жыл бұрын

    supposedly weighs 5 lbs so this new one should be much more nimble.

  • @ericchung2871

    @ericchung2871

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will you do a review of this sword?

  • @seanpoore2428
    @seanpoore24283 жыл бұрын

    How do 2 handed swords relate to daneaxes and pillars in battlefield use?

  • @Shirogarasu9
    @Shirogarasu93 жыл бұрын

    Is it not an issue that in Hema, people tend to use Feders that are more the size large 2 hand swords rather than longswords?

  • @danielglidden9290
    @danielglidden92903 жыл бұрын

    Which famous battles were giant swords like this one used?

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor34733 жыл бұрын

    I partially disagree with it not being a pole arm for not having a pole. That handle there, it is kinda short sure, but it is definitely a little pole in my book. And if it has a ricasso, from the far end of the ricasso to the pommel, that is just an unconventionally looking composite pole right there. Sure still shorter than on more stereotypical pole weapons, but plenty long still. Then again, I do like to call these weapons (specially those without a ricaso) reverse polearms, in the sense that the proportions of the pole and the head are inverted.

  • @andysalter7779
    @andysalter77793 жыл бұрын

    Can half-sword techniques be effectively used with these types of swords?

  • @thetalantonx
    @thetalantonx3 жыл бұрын

    5:33 - "The point I want to make..."

  • @Quotheraving
    @Quotheraving3 жыл бұрын

    Just out of curiosity is that shirt suggesting that pieces of Lego are a dangerous weapon?.. I mean I've stood on a few and god they hurt but I'd not choose to use one for warfare.

  • @jordansblabbering6303

    @jordansblabbering6303

    3 жыл бұрын

    Modern anti infantry caltrops?

  • @samarkand1585

    @samarkand1585

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is called a joke

  • @Rohnon
    @Rohnon3 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry your pronounciation of Zweihänder was very well!

  • @somerando1073
    @somerando10733 жыл бұрын

    So what would you consider a "war sword" to be? I always saw them as basically the sword you are holding in the video, a sword that falls between longswords and greatswords.

  • @mishmashmedley
    @mishmashmedley3 жыл бұрын

    dang, that thing is downright affordable

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts13 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Matt, what would medieval people think of modern carabiners and would they be good for hanging a scabbard on?

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr94663 жыл бұрын

    4 lb. 8 oz.= 72 oz. and 2,000 g (2 sig figs, 2,041 g at 4 sig figs, so, um . . .). That was cool. I don't usually get to convert from pounds :)

  • @klappspatenkamikaze
    @klappspatenkamikaze3 жыл бұрын

    Your pronouncination of Zweihänder is pretty good, maybe get a bit harder on the Z. Just pretend you are a WorldWarOne German saying "the" - Z. The "Bi" in Bidenhänder is more pronounced like the "e" in the english "me".

  • @markfergerson2145

    @markfergerson2145

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've heard the initial consonant as somewhere between "TS" and "TZ".

  • @SubcomandanteHedian

    @SubcomandanteHedian

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markfergerson2145 German z is invariably ts.

  • @Likexner

    @Likexner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Refer to Tobias Paul about the pronunciation of the Z.

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