Medical Student Vs. Premed Advisors | Debunking BAD Medical School Advice

We're going to debunk really BAD medical school advice from premed advisors. As a first generation medical student here in Canada and the first person in my family to go to medical school, I was absolutely lost during my premed years. I didn't know a whole lot about medicine so I decided to seek out "professionals" who were able to "help"... and unfortunately I got a lot of bad advice from time to time. So today I'm going to tackle some of the worst advice that I've ever heard given to students who were looking to get into medical school. We're talking about the Caribbean medical schools, GPA, the MCAT and more.
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  • @davidbear1746
    @davidbear17463 жыл бұрын

    As a former Dean of Admissions for a major medical school, the advice in this video is excellent! I hope prospective students will take it seriously.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your take on it David. I appreciate your input :)

  • @yasseressa1696
    @yasseressa16963 жыл бұрын

    "Don't memorize" almost cost me my first year, it's a horrible advice.

  • @SaSpursFan
    @SaSpursFan3 жыл бұрын

    I graduated with a 2.7 gpa in undergraduate and still got my MD officially today :). I’m living proof of #3 and #4

  • @SaSpursFan

    @SaSpursFan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Gurshan Gill I changed majors and had some struggles before deciding to do medicine. I busted my ass with upper division bio corses just to bring up my gpa to 2.7 or 2.8 and did well on my mcat and ended up going to a Caribbean medical school. It was hell dealing with my school but hey I made it...Unrelated but I remember my stupid clinical dean told our class "unless you get above the national average on Step 1 you will get 0 interviews for residency." I didn't and already have 15 interviews so far....moral of the story is never listen to doubters.

  • @SaSpursFan

    @SaSpursFan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Gurshan Gill every one is different and I went to MUA where it was cheaper and got help from my dad in the first two years and ended with like 190 k in debt. Caribbean med school isn't bad but I felt my school held me back rather act as an advocate for me. I wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for them though so it all evens outs. For those that can't get into DO or US MD school its a must to go Caribbean. I would recommend going to AUC, St. George, ROSS, or UMHS

  • @blueq4324

    @blueq4324

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just thought I'd chime in as well. I got into the big 4 you mentioned with a 3.19 and 497. Decided against it and raised my GPA to 3.44 (54 credits all As) and 506, and I currently have 4 DO acceptances with 1 Texan MD interview (match results in March!)

  • @SaSpursFan

    @SaSpursFan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blueq4324 congrats

  • @SaSpursFan

    @SaSpursFan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Gurshan Gill google medical university of the Americas

  • @PHATMoe5
    @PHATMoe53 жыл бұрын

    Correlation does not mean causation...the vast majority of applicants are BSc (Bio/life science) majors which is why most successful applicants did those degrees.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true that correlation does not equal causation so I'd agree that we need more data to decide what the "superior" undergrad degree really is 🤔 However, the myth that I'm trying to debunk is that "traditional or cookie-cutter undergrads" are actually discriminated against when it comes to the selection process. Which I'm inclined not to agree with given the available data and published selection criteria of the schools :)

  • @andymcmeekin2532

    @andymcmeekin2532

    3 жыл бұрын

    NXTgenMD yea it shouldn’t be about standing out necessarily, it should be about who is the best medical school candidate.

  • @jasleenbrar336
    @jasleenbrar3363 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I watch your videos I get so inspired you are amazing!! I’m so excited to watch your channel grow I just know big things are coming your way.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the support Jasleen, I really appreciate hearing that :D I'm glad that the videos have been helpful and I think 2021 is going to be a great year 🔥

  • @Aisha-vz8dt
    @Aisha-vz8dt3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Definitely can relate about trying so hard to find valid and reliable information from people - especially if there’s no one in your immediate circle in medicine. I definitely feel more calm after watching your video!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Aisha :D I'm glad to hear that the video helped. Best of luck with everything 💪

  • @MassimoMD
    @MassimoMD3 жыл бұрын

    I was straight up told twice (two different advisors) that obtaining research wasn’t important

  • @dericksingh5603
    @dericksingh56033 жыл бұрын

    Hey man thanks a lot for making these vids, they’re super helpful I’ve learned so much!!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey buddy glad to hear that they've been helpful :D All the best!

  • @brendatruong1880
    @brendatruong18803 жыл бұрын

    This was such a helpful video!! Thank you

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    No problem Brenda :D Glad to hear that 4th year is going well 🙌 a good MCAT does wonders for helping a lower than average GPA and don't forget that there are schools that will not look at your first few years. Btw I saw your instagram message, I'll get around to my DMs on the weekend, Best :D

  • @miguelolano4890
    @miguelolano48903 жыл бұрын

    Love the new intro man! Great video! Keep up the great work

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you bro 💪 will do!

  • @xxesinammxx
    @xxesinammxx3 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful and encouraging! Thank you :)

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    No problem Esi :D Good luck!

  • @greshashah7746
    @greshashah77463 жыл бұрын

    Your videos give me so much hope TY!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    No problem Gresha! Keep working hard and good luck :D

  • @gayathrisajeev6268
    @gayathrisajeev62683 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this I am also someone who's aspiring to do medicine first in my family as well I'm yet to complete my schooling but yeah have tons of queries !!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    No worries buddy! Don't hesitate to reach out if you've ever got a specific question 🔥 Best of luck💪

  • @blueq4324
    @blueq43243 жыл бұрын

    What's worst is that medical schools are strongly preferring, or in many cases REQUIRING, committee letters from these exact premed advisors.

  • @t.h.1492

    @t.h.1492

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe in the US not so much in Canada. Mostly because we don’t really have reference letters (more like reference forms). Premed advisors hold very little weight in the reference game in Canada

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's very unfortunate 😪 here in Ontario we're required to have 1 academic reference (like a professor) one non academic (charity organizer, manager, etc.) and then one of your choosing. I hope they don't change that any time soon

  • @mikekazumi1867
    @mikekazumi18673 жыл бұрын

    amazing as always, would you please make a video about MD/PhD programs as well?

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea dude :D I'll add it to the list

  • @mithramazad
    @mithramazad3 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for making these videos, they're honestly so helpful and you're really good at explaining in a way that's easy to understand! 💖 I was wondering if you could maybe help me understand how my medical school application would be affected by the fact that I'm a co-op student? (i.e. taking fall courses, winter co-op, and then spring courses, bc i know that some school only consider fall + winter to count towards an academic year) 😢

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear that Mithra :D Co-op definitely makes things difficult in terms of the schools that do not consider summer courses. Here's a section from U of T's website:applymd.utoronto.ca/news/everything-you-need-know-about-wgpa To the best of my knowledge, the medical schools make exception to the "no summer school courses" rule if you're in co-op. You'd have to check with each school individually though. Hope that helps :)

  • @mithramazad

    @mithramazad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nxtgenmd thanks so much for your reply! I got worried when I saw that a lot of schools don't count years where u only had 1 term of classes for GPA/ grade calculations and that often happens w co-op terms! 🥲

  • @cardiacmyxoma4073
    @cardiacmyxoma40733 жыл бұрын

    While I agree that you don’t NEED a family member in medicine to get in, it definitely helps. I have a friend from undergrad who had both parents as physicians and they advised her on everything from which bachelor’s program to complete to which extracurriculars to pursue.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Help definitely makes things easier if you've had it (at least imo) but on the other hand, I know students who come from a medical background and haven't been accepted yet because they couldn't get by the MCAT. We all just do the best that we can with what we have I guess 🙌 Part of the reason why I advocate for more med students to start KZread channels is to get the information out there... even the playing field a bit 💪

  • @netrikalra2153
    @netrikalra21533 жыл бұрын

    I'm waiting to hear back this month to see if I got any interviews and this definitely helped ease some of my anxiety - thanks for that! :D

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that Netri :D best of luck with it! I'll keep my fingers crossed 🔥

  • @MassimoMD

    @MassimoMD

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same I’m so nervous

  • @netrikalra2153

    @netrikalra2153

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MassimoMD Good luck to you!

  • @rabiyasuleiman1148
    @rabiyasuleiman11483 жыл бұрын

    Agree with everything except number 1. It is important to consider that people who do go into Business or Writing programs are usually not trying to apply to med school. So the number of non-science majors who are applying to med schools are already really low. If 500 bio majors apply and 100 get accepted then only 20% of bio majors get accepted to med school. However, if only 20 Business, English or Psychology students apply and 5 get accepted then that's a 25% acceptance rate for non-traditional students. However, the most important thing is your GPA, scores and ec so do what you like and put yourself out there.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey :) You're welcome to disagree and I see your point but number 1 in the video is the bad advice that "you should not take traditional premed degrees." There is no evidence that I could find that suggested that traditional premed degrees are being discriminated against in the selection process. The information that I've provided (although limited) shows that traditional premed degrees still make up the majority of medical school classes. I know your numbers are strictly for the purpose of a hypothetical example, but unfortunately we don't have the data to say that 25% of non-trade students are getting in - and in addition, many barriers to non-trade students still unfortunately remain in the selection process for some schools though things like heavily-tested science concepts on the MCAT and medical schools that still have mandatory science course requirements (which are included in traditional programs, but not in non-tradational programs). Given my analysis of class makeup, conversations with students and staff, and selection criteria I still think that its safe to say that traditional premed programs are not being discriminated against in the selection process and choosing a program based off of shock value is not in most students' best interests. However, the application landscape is becoming more and more accessible to non-traditional applicants in order to improve diversity of educational backgrounds.🤙

  • @uyiomere1114
    @uyiomere11143 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the advice! one thing i worry about in the research aspect is schools like western and uoft for example have certain competencies/clusters they want u to embody based on ur ecs and both schools have one of these as some sort of scholarly activity (e.g. awards, publications conferences, etc.) for those of us w/o research and such what can we use to show for something like this?

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Academic awards are a good substitute for the CANMEDs "scholar role". I won the MRSA award with the UHN and it would have filled the same role as research. Academic competitions like science competitions are also good examples!

  • @andrewbarrett2333
    @andrewbarrett23333 жыл бұрын

    go to Ryerson for nursing, Macmed is on my list ! good to see RU grads out here

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    and its good to see more RU premeds out here 💪🔥 best of luck Andrew, hope to see you around sometime

  • @MohamedAhmed-wc3pw
    @MohamedAhmed-wc3pw3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta like the video before even watching ❤️

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @FacelessDina
    @FacelessDina3 жыл бұрын

    2:27 lol the best part of the video and have gotten this advice so many times!!! I am abt to apply in June 2021 and if I had listened to that advice I would have never made it!!!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I think about where I'd be right now if I'd have listened to the person who told me that for the first time 😒 Best of luck with the application cycle! Congrats on making it this far :D

  • @esfandiarnajafizadeh1430
    @esfandiarnajafizadeh14303 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video 👏 i wanted to take the mcat in the summer of my 2nd year going to 3rd but I feel like I’m not ready for it. On the other hand I ask myself what if I’m just being lazy😅 lol, really confusing myself.

  • @AsadiSwag

    @AsadiSwag

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fellow Persian premed in the house ✌️

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL you're not being lazy bro. Taking it in the summer after 2nd year is possible and nice because you have leeway if you mess up. On the other hand though, my personal philosophy is that you're better to take the extra year to prepare and develop as a student and then crush it in your first go, rather than planning to fail 💪🔥 you're gonna crush it eventually 🤙

  • @user-po3ii1tl9z
    @user-po3ii1tl9z3 жыл бұрын

    6:05 Another point: most of them aren't able to match into competitive specialties, so if surgery (for example) is your goal, it's possible but not advised go to the Caribbean route.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree that it makes the entire match process more difficult - but at the same time, I do know some doctors who have made it through and have matched into some more competitive programs (a friend of mine works as an emergency medicine doctor and they went to school in Ireland). Avoid if possible but if not, then be ready to work your butt off 💪

  • @user-po3ii1tl9z

    @user-po3ii1tl9z

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nxtgenmd True! I know of (not personally :p) a couple that were able to match into super hard specialties in Canada (which is even extra hard) and in the United States (a bit easier for IMGs but still difficult). That being said though, I honestly feel like they're more the exception than the rule. But like you said in your video, they grind like crazy! The amount of hustle you have to have to succeed in an IMG and match into a competitive specialty is insane so props to them.

  • @adamlapier4520
    @adamlapier45203 жыл бұрын

    How does residency in Canada compare to USA? Are surgical residents pulling 80-100 work weeks in Canada or are there more restrictions on hours worked per week?

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a lot of similarities and differences as well, particularly with the lengths of programs :) Family medicine is a 2 year residency in Canada for example, but lasts 3 years in the US. Surgery and Internal medicine are the really rough residencies by stereotype for us. We're supposedly "capped" at a certain number of hours but many of my friends in residency still end up working 80+ hours some weeks (or at least that's what I've been told). There are many factors that contribute to that, like which hospital you're at primarily.

  • @zanettd1037
    @zanettd10373 жыл бұрын

    So my major is in data science with a concentration in genomics and bioinformatics, do you think this is to “cookie cutter” ? I genuinely liked the description of this major and is why I chose it but now I’m kind of thinking about it :(

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    No :) the point I was trying to make is to not shy away from programs because they are "too cookie cutter." Get a great GPA, kill the MCAT, load up on ECs and references and you'll be totally fine with your major 🔥

  • @RedFaceeee
    @RedFaceeee3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy :D

  • @MTGDivineSorcerer
    @MTGDivineSorcerer3 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍🏻

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you man 🔥

  • @MelisaRodriguezS
    @MelisaRodriguezS3 жыл бұрын

    OMG this was a great video! I definitely have heard this awful advice before jeje

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Melisa :D Unfortunately I think we all have 🥲

  • @mollygraves5558
    @mollygraves55583 жыл бұрын

    I will be lucky to graduate college with a 3.5 so please keep me in your prayers because I'm going to need it. I need help

  • @michaellopez5684

    @michaellopez5684

    3 жыл бұрын

    Live your life and stop judging your self worth on a number

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck Molly! Try not to beat yourself up too much, there are always ways to improve your application if you need to afterwards :) Best!

  • @XanderShiller
    @XanderShiller3 жыл бұрын

    Med school process is soulcrushing..i have a passion for psychiatry..years of volunteering, psych classes with A's, even memorized the DSM, ICD, PDR and other clinical manuals bc I ENJOYED, understood, and was passionate about helping clients unlike the many physicians who dgaf..the thing is..i'm terrible at the basic sciences..pre-med, years of organic chem etc when usually all you need is (obviously some traditional sciences) 2 chairs and a desk.. (A decade of hard sciences for a specialty thats mostly abstract is a crime to those who actually have practical and genuine care/ potential). I dont believe in the MCAT Anyone feel this way or know a way around this? Many MDs I've met admit to not knowing what theyre talking about, dont care and want you out ASAP and throw their monthly research magazines in the trash like change is anti-science.

  • @sim_aware
    @sim_aware3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. SO many have never stepped into the med school... #SimTribe

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks my friend :D Unfortunately that's exactly the problem sometimes...

  • @justbored7691
    @justbored76913 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to do bsc because that’s something i likes. So studying bsc i cant get into med school?

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not at all* :D The myth is that studying BSc is not good because it's too cookie cutter. I disagree heavily with this. Study what you like and what you will do well in but also sets you up for the MCAT!

  • @victoriakierstyn9942
    @victoriakierstyn99423 жыл бұрын

    the 7 dislikes are angry pre-med advisors hahah

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @elisamicucci7658
    @elisamicucci76583 жыл бұрын

    You’re great❤️

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Elisa :D

  • @farnazasadiii
    @farnazasadiii3 жыл бұрын

    Please turn down that music

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't change it once it goes up on KZread 🥲 I'll keep it in mind for the next one!

  • @tz6706
    @tz67063 жыл бұрын

    I’m sad smh :/

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙁

  • @lucasa5309
    @lucasa53093 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea Canadian med schools were so much more selective!

  • @brendatruong1880

    @brendatruong1880

    3 жыл бұрын

    They have such high GPA cut offs! I think recently, University of Ottawa lowered their cut off. It used to be a 3.8/4.0 but now is a 3.5/4.0 I believe.

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hear that a lot actually! I've had students tell me that the word on the street is that Canadian md schools are easier to get into... I don't know where that all started from either 😅

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ottawa's cutoff is 3.5/4 but they haven't accepted anyone in the English stream with less than a 3.87 for years according to what I've heard from friends! (not too sure about special applicant pools though). No MCAT required = crazy GPAs! 🥲

  • @jeanetteraichel8299

    @jeanetteraichel8299

    3 жыл бұрын

    Diversity will change that. Students who are minorities who wouldn't make the cut are going to be now accepted because their ethnicity. That doesn't seen right if the competition is so fierce, take the best students and don't look at skin color or ethnicity

  • @rainsheng1855
    @rainsheng18553 жыл бұрын

    This must mean I get a lot of bad advice from Reddit... Guess Reddit isn't a very good source. But you definitely are!

  • @nxtgenmd

    @nxtgenmd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Premed Reddit is only good for memes... you can quote me on that 😂 Thanks buddy!

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    @izzilyas80853 жыл бұрын

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    @vaughncassius55753 жыл бұрын

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  • @adejadesolaadaralegbe4307

    @adejadesolaadaralegbe4307

    3 жыл бұрын

    nobody asked you