What a disgusting world we live in. My heart goes out to the parents of Brianna. No one should have to endure this sort of pain by losing a child through horrific circumstances or any circumstances.

Natasha has been an outspoken ally to trans people from the start. People won’t forget x

@jimmyfaulkner5746

5 ай бұрын

It's never one's with pretty privilege 😂😂

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

I was not aware, but I am delighted to hear, thank you for the information.

@markholohan4446

5 ай бұрын

​@@Adulthumanfemale84Hows that exactly?

Following on from Jess's question pertaining to how the press are painting these two individuals, perhaps they are doing so to absolve readers suspicion of the press' s involvement in what has occurred for no I don't think these individuals were born evil, what I think is that they were conditioned to become evil and conditioned by the media they consumed.

@Ida-Adriana

5 ай бұрын

Be careful, people get extremely defensive if you say that. I’m under a torrent of abuse for trying to raise awareness of attachment disorders and developmental trauma, as if I am trying to defend the behaviour. The nuance is lost, it seems, no matter how many times I repeat it - people just raise complete straw men.

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

@@Ida-Adriana Then I am pleased I have said it, to await the abuse I may get for saying it, where of course I don't have to respond to the abuse of which I understand is what irritates the abusers most. And yes I too have the experience you have for I too seek to promote better understanding of weak inoffensive minorities to have long since learned there just exists some who just don't want to understand for they are clearly quite happy being the abusers they are. Hasten to say just as the online troll finds valour in anonymity to abuse, I find the same valour in the same anonymity to defend the weak and powerless and I will continue to do so. But thank you for the warning.

@mariana36770

5 ай бұрын

@@Coelacanth1 Never mind the abuse. I'd rather discuss how cute Ida-Adriana's freckles are.

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

@@mariana36770 Then you feel free to discuss what interests you.

@Ida-Adriana

5 ай бұрын

@@mariana36770 Oh you! Don’t make me blush ☺️🤭🌷🐛 *your* face is cuter!

The Daily Mail and Lee Anderson have blood on their hands

@apemoon1731

5 ай бұрын

Why?

@ftumschk

5 ай бұрын

@@apemoon1731 For fanning the flames of prejudice and hatred.

@mortenson-boxymusic

5 ай бұрын

and the rest of the tory mp transphobes

@Dimona_UK

5 ай бұрын

@apemoon1731 look up "stochastic terrorism".

@dareemmanuel6079

5 ай бұрын

@@ftumschk😂

Brianna didn't venture outdoors much. Then she thought she'd found a friend..... So very, very sad. You can tell what a lovely girl she was by the heart warming words from her heart broken mother. Why, oh why?

@denise5936

5 ай бұрын

Heartbreaking

@gagreflex1933

5 ай бұрын

He thought he'd found a friend. Stop being part of the problem

@SamuelBlack84

5 ай бұрын

Exactly why I don't trust anyone anywhere

@steveblundell7766

5 ай бұрын

@@gagreflex1933 Nothing wrong with referring to Brianna as 'she'. Look at her photo, if you passed her in the street wouldn't you assume she was a girl?

@jamieakahenry

5 ай бұрын

@@gagreflex1933 People think they're edgy, saying stuff like' HE ' but wouldn't say it real life as they're cowards.

I normally don’t care about trigger warnings. But then I heard the sentence starting “I want to see if” and I was truly shaken. It’s vital to know, but horrific.

@DAVJULART

5 ай бұрын

It was truly sickening to listen to.

@Dimona_UK

5 ай бұрын

Now be trans… and the language not phase you because you’ve heard it so often… *meaningful look* I was almost killed through anti trans violence a decade ago… and anti trans violence has gone up by 85% in the last year.

@debsn7772

5 ай бұрын

Same here. This case has made me depressed. If I feel the way I do, it doesn’t bear thinking about the unimaginable pain Bri’s family are in.

@CheckChannelDescriptionForTag

5 ай бұрын

​@@Dimona_UK first world people first world problems

@CheckChannelDescriptionForTag

5 ай бұрын

Imagine being so soft

Several newspapers changed their articles as soon as they found out Brianna was trans. They published her deadname and they referred to her as he/him and male. Like she was brutally murdered the day before and they could not help themselves but to degrade her like that. So callous.

@BILLYRFC99

5 ай бұрын

they were not talking nonsense he was a dude

@ericarogers3053

5 ай бұрын

​@@BILLYRFC99 Join the 77%, bro

@smvwees

5 ай бұрын

​@@BILLYRFC99 One doesn't have to walk on eggshells to write an article halfway decent without disrespecting the dead. For one, surname change had nothing to do with trans but was the surname of the other parent. And second, writing a dry wikipedia article where birth name , other names, changes are written about in sequence about someone's biography, is vastly different then willfully use this case as a statement to vent all the issues and opinions about trans and thereby willfully execrating a child who has recently been murdered.

@BILLYRFC99

5 ай бұрын

one can go and preach to someone who gives a fk which i don't toddle along @@smvwees

@brandythedog4764

5 ай бұрын

Newspapers have to report facts, and the facts are he was a male

The anti transgender propaganda in the media may well have had an impact and it is time they were held accountable.

I have followed this story closely and I didn't even know the judge had said that transphobia took a major role

@dougnico2492

5 ай бұрын

How ?

I stopped reading papers a very very long time ago. Also the Met are as useful as a chocolate teapot

Also, the guest was fantastic.

I appreciate this video so much. I saw a forensic breakdown of the day Brianna was attacked and it was heartbreaking. Her texting her mother about riding the bus alone, and her mother being so proud of her, it was so agonizing for me to hear. We need to protect the most vulnerable people, more so today now than ever when they are made the media's scapegoat on a daily basis. Too many in this country are exceedingly fast to dehumanize people.

💯Agree. From what I read too, Brianna could have been neurodivergent, she was very vulnerable. British media are whipping up so much hate towards trans people.

Excellent presentation and interview. What a tragic story this has been.

Natasha deserves massive credit for this insightful journalism. It was delivered with real empathy and passion. It will make people think. Unless of course they are the anti-woke brigade 😢

100% agree with everything you said.

We need to remember Brianna’s name and forget those of the killers. Her life must not be forgotten.

@eyesodd

5 ай бұрын

Come off it, be real, everyone will have forgotten Brian in six months time.

Natasha Devon is the only person to have achieved the impossible by making James O'Brien look far right.

I wonder if Piers Morgan is ready to acknowledge his complicity in this tragedy due to his hateful and derogatory comments over the years towards the trans community.

@brianferguson7840

5 ай бұрын

Probably not eh,

@steveo4991

5 ай бұрын

Ask your wife’s boyfriend.

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

BS you can’t turn other people’s disgust into your supposed emotion of hate.

@brianferguson7840

5 ай бұрын

​@@ReformedWhiteKnight Your comment is grammatically and systemically incomprehensible. Would you care to try again to promulgate your point of view ?

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

@@brianferguson7840there is no ‘phobia’ or ‘hate’. The whole thing is propagandised in this way to make ordinary people feel ashamed to say anything about this sort degeneracy.

Why do people buy newspapers.

The lack of support for mental health in schools played a part also .

@upendasana7857

5 ай бұрын

Totally

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

The lack of everything is schools has but one source - the government.

@Thelma7361

5 ай бұрын

Schools should have mental health resources but I’m more concerned as to why such a vulnerable child like Brianna was placed in similar spaces to an expelled kid from another school like Scarlett. Surely it’s paramount the we keep these two sets of kids separate. The most vulnerable kids in the entire school shouldn’t be placed with the most troublesome.

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

@@Thelma7361 I agree but unfortunately you will find with everything, those that don't fit in for whatever reason are all lumped together as if they were the same. for those that don't fit in for whatever reason are perceived as troublesome.

@denise5936

5 ай бұрын

@@Thelma7361 Exactly 💯

This removes any regrets I had about being stealth. It's getting too dangerous to be out & upfront as a trans woman lately.

Fantastic vid

Its pretty obvious they are a couple of nut job teens. This happens now and again. Unfortunately thats life.

well said media &goverment are to blame for policy

The relationship between right-wing media (both press and online) and its target audience seems to be a feedback loop growing in amplification as it goes on, each feeding off the vile and toxic Psychopathy. The lack of empathy from conservative mindsets on most issues has reached an all time high, I understand it to a degree from edgy teenagers pushing back against their elders in the generic rebelling against authority sort of way, but when grown adults are still behaving this way it's just pathetic.

@wonderwoman5528

5 ай бұрын

Well said

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

It’s funny that you call the media ‘right wing’ …. When they are clearly are all left wing. There is no conservatism anywhere….

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

@@ReformedWhiteKnight If you think the right wing are left wing, then you are declaring your position as hard right. Observe the media reform coalition's report of who owns the media and you will be informed as to the ratio of left vs right media in the UK.

@django3422

5 ай бұрын

​@@ReformedWhiteKnightHello again chap, do you know who Rupert Murdoch is?

@L333gok

5 ай бұрын

If you think the average conservative lacks empathy or is a psychopath, that just shows that you don’t understand your opponent at all. Dismissing your opposition as being low empathy or incompetent isn’t a counter to any conservative arguments or stances, it’s just a cop out. The rise in conservative numbers has to do with people becoming fed up with the left. A lot of conservatives are politically homeless moderates who view conservative parties as the lesser of the two evils.

I hadn’t seen Brianna’s face without trying to go and find it until today. I’ve seen their faces almost constantly. Media coverage of trans related topics, environmentalism, murders, mass murderers, have all contributed massively to the negative trends related to all, along with a generalised trend towards anti-intellectualism

@SamuelBlack84

5 ай бұрын

Everyone is anti something

@Jamsus-

5 ай бұрын

I'm anti virus

Well, journo hacks are journo hacks. That's how they do. But it was the JUDGE who revealed their identity and gave permission to use their images. What did he expect to happen? {:o:O:}

The mental gymnastics is off the charts.

It seems relevant here

First time i am learning she was trans so i think this lady has a point

The killers themselves said no phobia was involved ,btw straight males get stabbed everyday in London but thats not a woke talking point, not a single one their cases has received this level of coverage

@StrikingAlexa

5 ай бұрын

The boy constantly made transphobic comments, I don't think she was transphobic I think he was

Nothing new.

And this is the reason i don't watch or believe anything the media put out. I do my own homework and try and make the most Balanced decisions about what happens. As for the Trans hate, well what can i say, apart from you should treat people the way you would want to be treated, that's what i do. It was her life to do with what she wanted, and to have that life taken away is such a crime. My heart and love go out to her family, and i hope someday they will be able to live with their loss with some sort of small happiness. Not that they will ever get over their loss. I hope you understand what i mean.

Crying listening to this, especially the interview, you can hear the pain in the voice. As a trans woman I thank you for this. Rest in Power Brianna 😢😢

Look at their faces, how are they not related?

The level of co-ordination from media outlets in their Transphobia begs the question: what's the media's motivation for this?

@PaulJohnson-zv3hl

5 ай бұрын

Money. Tabloids follow traffic if certain stories get people reading them the tabloids publish more of the same stories to keep reader engagement. They don’t care of consequences.

@gavinbuck8130

5 ай бұрын

@jodders619 To appease their target audience of knuckle-draggers.

@ramel684

5 ай бұрын

It's the inevitable consequence of capitalist media. They know the best way to keep up engagement is to get people hating and fearing. It's the same thing that drove media homophobia in the 80s and 90s, islamaphobia during it's peak in the 2000's, anti EU and anti immigrant BS through the 2010s, and shifting into transphobia in the last 5 years

@apemoon1731

5 ай бұрын

​@@gavinbuck8130 Observing fundamental biology doesn't make someone a 'knuckle dragger'.

@gavinbuck8130

5 ай бұрын

@@apemoon1731 It'd be utterly pointless discussing this or arguing with you.

The first public statement by Brianna's father was that he didn't want the faces of his daughter's killers to be associated with hers for all time. Why, then, is that exactly what all LBC's KZread thumbnails have done since the verdict? Think!

@eyesodd

5 ай бұрын

Because all the media does is bait and incite opposing views. When the Columbine school shootings happened an expert told the media not to use the shooters image as it would martyr them and that's what they are after. What did the media do, show their face and have done the same with every school shooting since.

I keep saying the messages between them was disgusting but you just get a load of trolls

Anyone who enjoys broccoli and sausage? But it's so totally wrong!

The english media are vile and worst there geting,arrogant uppercut and posh accents 🙄🙄

@reefnreefer

5 ай бұрын

Yor first language better be Gaelic 😂🤡

@Silver-st2zq

5 ай бұрын

The gutter press news papers are at least useful for one thing if one runs out of toilet paper.......

@amcc5887

5 ай бұрын

@reefnreefer ,actually it is,very fluent in gailge

@steveblundell7766

5 ай бұрын

The English media includes LBC. The very fact they think they are above all other outlets is what makes them one of the most bigoted

@teviottilehurst

5 ай бұрын

Agree. Nasty people

Humans will always find something to hate

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

Hate is a product of fear

@SamuelBlack84

5 ай бұрын

@@Coelacanth1 And what don't we fear?

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

@@SamuelBlack84 The promulgation of fear is a political tool designed to elevate would be dishonest leaders to the positions of leadership

Does nobody care that Brianna lost her life? Does everyone have to mark her as a Trans Martyr?

@reaperj550

5 ай бұрын

You're so woke calling him things like her and she 👏

@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058

5 ай бұрын

@@reaperj550 it’s because I honestly didn’t know if he was a girl identifying as a guy or a guy identifying as a girl. But it shouldn’t matter either way idc about the gender I care about the person

@reaperj550

5 ай бұрын

@@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 that's a fair point but I would add this, its not helpful to anybody for people that go along with the fantasy of the gender fluid community.

@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058

5 ай бұрын

@@reaperj550 you’re ripping into me because I didn’t know their gender. I didn’t know whether she was a boy or girl. How else can I tell with a name like Brianna? I don’t care about gender pronouns I think it’s unnecessary. But if I don’t know, then I don’t know. You realise you’re ripping into me with the same logic as the trans people use with pronouns? Let people have the freedom to say what they want. I get you don’t like this trans pronoun thing nor do I, I’m not bothered about her pronouns. I am bothered that people have a problem with me misusing pronouns that they feel the need to correct me and presume my sociological stance based on a simple technicality. I understand where you’re coming from and I think we have the same opinion on this topic but it doesn’t change the fact that if I’m speaking whether wrong or right I’m still speaking. And I think we should all have the right to say things without being constantly corrected as if we’re subject to a new socialistic fascism regime.

Gheys parents themselves said no bullying was directed towards their child so stop making narratives

This was so bad.

If coverage etc annoys you and explaining why - aren’t you yourself doing coverage AGAIN 😂

But this is what happens with any story connected with 'trans' issues these days.

Media frenzy? OK! Shut up!

It's not irrelevant these motivations are part of it,need to be questioned by the experts lawyers and the press,This woman is a very poor journalist for missing this all aspects should be reported on, but yes the press did not push any transphobia or refer to it in context of these two scumbag people.And your quite an expert aren't you natasha,,

@steveblundell7766

5 ай бұрын

She's not making any sense, she moans about one of the killers being described as having ADHD but then moans that the victim is not adequately described as being trans. Is every journalist supposed to call Natasha first to confirm which characteristics should and should not be mentioned in their report, because I don't see what makes her such an expert

@user-nc4od4pm8q

5 ай бұрын

​@@steveblundell7766 You might feel differently if you were wrongly accused of theft than if you were wrongly believed to be the victim of theft. So I feel like it should be easy to understand that it is different to suggest: 1) members of a group are more likely to be killers; 2) members of a group are more likely to be killed. It isn't confusing to think one is wrong and the other is not (especially when this is backed up by facts).

@steveblundell7766

5 ай бұрын

@@user-nc4od4pm8q Just because of the fact that a killer has ADHD, that doesn't automatically mean that people with ADHD are more likely to be killers. This is what is known as a hasty generalisation fallacy. It might help if you do not think of people with ADHD as "members of a group" since this is probably what led you into making such a generalisation. And this is why it is important that individual journalists are allowed to make their own judgement about what facts to report, rather than stick to a set of arbitrary rules approved by people like Natasha that simply reinforce the sort of prejudices that you have demonstrated.

Tell me they are IMMIGRANTS plz 😂

They are are never happy are they. The killers already got longer than if it had been a woman and way more than if it had been a guy they had killed. If this had been a 15 year old boy no one would of cared. The guy that didn't do it still got a longer jail time than the girl that did

@heldinahtmlhell

5 ай бұрын

And the guy had Autism. Which is a profound condition that makes you easy to manipulate.

@django3422

5 ай бұрын

You're wrong there. The lad got 20 years, the lass got 22. Easy to check and get it right.

@moomin3744

5 ай бұрын

Your completely wrong

@heldinahtmlhell

5 ай бұрын

Which is a joke, given that she was clearly the leader who hatched the plan, who was friends with the victim. If you swapped the sexes, the sentences would be wildly different. I've seen cases where the man got a longer sentence in which the woman alone did the killing, and the man had an alibi. But he was deemed to be "manipulating" the woman. @@django3422

@django3422

5 ай бұрын

​@@heldinahtmlhellOnce again, in case you missed the sole point of the comment you were replying to, the lass got a longer sentence.

Aren't you doing the same things...

@tamarabrugara

5 ай бұрын

No

I am not disagreeing, but you glossed over a 12/13 year old watching horror. Children should not watch horror films, it desensitises people, much like the news. I don't think it was all about transgender. I don't like being referred to as cis either.

@django3422

5 ай бұрын

Do you think the victim's gender identity played no role in their being targeted?

@ypp0p

5 ай бұрын

Cis is just a latin prefix meaning "same", what is there to not like about it. Its just an adjective. Thats like saying "i dont like being reffered to as tall" if youre tall. It is not derogatory. Do you also have a problem with being called straight (if you are)?

@eyesodd

5 ай бұрын

​@@ypp0pSo cis means same, so muppets thst choose to use pronouns are effectively referring to themselves as "same male", bit dumb and pointless I'm sure you'll agree.

@django3422

5 ай бұрын

@@eyesodd Specifically, it means "on this side". Trans means "on the other side".

@initial_kd

5 ай бұрын

@@ypp0p Cisgender is an assumption, i don't 'identify' as any gender so actually in gender theory terms I am trans because i would be considered agender. While in reality i am gender abolitionist in view and don't identify as anything.

Yes everything against is a phobia sure 🤯

My heart goes out to Brianna and her family. Doesn’t change the fact that trans women aren’t real women.

@ypp0p

5 ай бұрын

Who made you in charge of deciding that? Have you been inside their heads?

@eyesodd

5 ай бұрын

​@@ypp0pThere in is the problem, YOU think what is in your head defines your physicality, nope.

@Jumpmaster337

5 ай бұрын

@@ypp0p people are allowed opinions on this topic wether you like it or not.

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This lady just compared horror movies to Dark Web Red Rooms 🤦‍♂

@franklingoodwin

5 ай бұрын

She didn't. She was quoting an article 🤦

@BenGuardian

5 ай бұрын

No she didn’t?

@davidlister6328

5 ай бұрын

She didn't, they also don't exist

@carlkamuti

5 ай бұрын

@@franklingoodwin At 0:34 she stops quoting the article, the statement in question is at 0:45.

@carlkamuti

5 ай бұрын

@@davidlister6328 You've never heard of Peter Scully then?

They were not sis gender they are normal people stop with this slur and tagging people who do not agree to signup to your indictment of Reality

@heartinflames

5 ай бұрын

Hahaha

@Oddball_E8

5 ай бұрын

Ok, mister cis white male... sheesh, some people are real snowflakes!

@Rachl1284

5 ай бұрын

Cis gender is a classification just like transgender, it’s not a slur, it literally just refers to human beings who haven’t changed the gender they were assigned at birth. It has never / isn’t used in a derogatory way nor was it created out of any derogatory history, so how is it a slur? why r u insecure abt the most straightforward inoffensive classification? 😭

@heckelchristopherify

5 ай бұрын

As for not used or never used in a derogatory way, that all depends on the person it aimed at like black people can call each other the n word but if a white person say it to a black man its perceived as a racial slur

@patrickfox-roberts7528

5 ай бұрын

I would laugh except your clear lack of understanding contributes to all this stuff

For the record: nobody is ‘afraid’ or ‘phobic’ of trans people, generally speaking people might feel disgust or feel repulsed by them! That’s a huge difference!

@makeitsonumberone1358

5 ай бұрын

No we just get fed up with the media rubbing it in our faces and our kids faces saying its normal, you can cut your bits off and call yourself sharon but dont expect the rest of us to do the same.

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

@@makeitsonumberone1358yes I agree, it’s between what you just wrote and disgust. Hate doesn’t play any real role. But they try to use the powerful victim status to their advantage

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

@@stephjsinclair the dictionary says it’s an irrational fear, but people don’t fear trans, they are irritated by the media constantly pushing it into their faces or maybe are disgusted or feel repulsed. Nothing to do with fear.

@jamieakahenry

5 ай бұрын

A person got murdered and the best you can do is debate phobic.

@ReformedWhiteKnight

5 ай бұрын

@@jamieakahenryyeah, you can’t bully me like that. I only commented because the media are obviously trying their darnest to turn this into a purely transphobic hate crime, because it can then be politicised in all kinds of ways. 👎🏻

Wake up the woke

the police came to a different conclusion, i.e. that transphobia played no part, but as with know with woke minorities, if their involved their being dicriminated against could it be all connected to a need for attention ?

@MrsMelrom

5 ай бұрын

please clarify, I'm not sure I understand.

@zoe_blackmore

5 ай бұрын

The higher authority, the Judge said it was a transphobic hate crime. But you blame the victim! what a stupendously dreadful thing to say! Brianna was terrified of going out, she was totally not seeking attention you ........

@xensonar9652

5 ай бұрын

@@MrsMelrom I can explain. He's ignoring the court ruling that concluded transphobia played a part, and is instead cherry-picking a statement by the police in the first few days that they did not yet have evidence of a hate crime. He's doing this because he wants to whine about "woke minorities" being attention seekers, and so must ignore the court findings to do so.

@bweb6

5 ай бұрын

I think i'll trust the conclusion of Justice Yipp, you know, The High Court Judge, with the law degree and years of legal experience who presided over the entire trial.

@Coelacanth1

5 ай бұрын

The police that have a history of denying institutional homophobia, misogyny and racism, that police?

Deuteronomy 22:5 Leviticus 18:22 2 peter 2:6 Deuteronomy 5:17

@goosetheloose8332

5 ай бұрын

Get out of my house. Exodus.