“This is your latitude nut. You can move it in or out and induce some drift clockwise or counter-clockwise, east or west” 🤔

@Briancamposarsenal08

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

You are a genius! How did I miss this one? Well done and explained.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

You're too kind. It was actually clunky, long, frustrating, and hard to follow LOL. I've been thinking about another approach - put a mems gyro module hanging in a jar on a string at 45 degrees pointing North with a battery and a wifi interface. Let it run for a couple days, averaging it's drift rate. Then send it the wireless command to "zero" and rotate the jar 180 degrees. Because it is hanging on a string, it's always at exactly the same angle. So there won't be any change in angle to affect it (since angle can affect their drift rate.) And it's the same principle of being aligned to and at right angles to the earth's rotation. And actually the jar could be temperature controlled and well insulated too. And possibly wrapped in iron to shield it from the earth's magnetic field just to make the flatties happy. (Although I suppose technically the magnetic field could cause slight change in drift of the MEMS gyro, so an iron shield is not a bad idea. And further, I actually have some mu-metal shields from vintage medical oscilloscope units. The neat thing about a mems gyro is it's a 3 axis unit. So while one axis is measuring the earth's rotation, the other axis won't be, if it's tilted up at the angle of my latitude. Then when the whole thing is rotated 180 degrees, the earth's rotational axis will then align with the other axis on the MEMS unit. (There was actually a project by someone I saw on YT who used a mems gyro on a servo arm that moved it back and forth and averaged the drift, and it too showed 15d/h, it was really cool. Lost the link to it though.)

@dertod1703

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse If you Google "MPU-6050 Earth Rotation" you'll find some Earth rate measurements with a cheap MEMS gyro. Some university even made a working Gyrocompass with this particular model.

I would like to see a gyroscope detecting earth rotating around the sun. And further, a gyroscope detecting solar system rotating around the center of milky way galaxy.

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

How would you propose that How would you detect a rotational speed of 226 MILLION years or indeed 360 degrees in one year subtracting the earths spin in one day ! That is done by astronomical observation

@daviddayag

Ай бұрын

and also a billion dollars...

Great idea to point it to the north star to get the maximum drift rate. With my gyro construction I couldn't do that. Thx a lot!

Once I flew a Cessna 152, the headphones with the trainer were broken, the dials on the dash board were constantly fogging up so I had to constantly wipe them with my finger and couldn't really pay much attention at keeping the airplane where it was supposed to be (I looked at the dashboard then outside the window and the horizon was like 45 degrees where it was previously level, and also I once infringed on a military airspace a bit so the trainer told me and I pushed the airplane out of it again) and when I looked at this dial I saw 3 but didn't know whether it means 30 degrees or 300 degrees. Which is quite a little bit significant difference when you are flying in an airplane and various stresses are pushing on you from various imperfect conditions. The people who make these things are really smartiepants. Like if they never actually flew an airplane. No wonder airplanes fall down. If I had an airplane the first thing I would do would be probably pop this little glass take a correction pen and fill in the correct number of missing zeroes on all of those numbers so that it would stop being dangerously confusing.

This is really cool, you effectively used those gyroscopes to make a sidereal clock

Love it man! I came here because some flat-earther in a debate said "mechanical gyroscopes don't show the rotation of the earth." and because of your painstaking work it took me literally 3 seconds to find that whole claim knocked out. Thanks so much!

@bArraxas

7 күн бұрын

Man some guys (as me for example) just need to saw it just one time. This vidéo is the first i saw who INFINE show me the earth rotation. It's just sad to see 99.9% of globist are not able to show than and close definitively this subject.

Nah, bob knodel said it was an aether vortex when he did it with a laser ring gyro. Clearly the same phenomena is affecting your purely mechanical air driven heading indicator gyro. /s

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Of course! I wondered how aethernet works! But Bob is getting funnier all the time: Now they've got *another* gyro - a mechanical gyro compass that seeks true north without using the magnetic field. And it works as expected too! kzread.info/dash/bejne/pICerchxgMm-hdo.html - So not only does the aetherweb (hahahaha) turn such as to turn the sun and stars and "apparent drift" in gyroscopes, it also allows a gyrocompass to seek true north!

@eduardoxenofonte4004

3 жыл бұрын

thanks bob

@an.d.m.a

3 жыл бұрын

"Energies from the heavens" are clearly at work 🤣 Thanks Bob

@boardwalkbw7130

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I had heard about

Get this man a shield! Wait, that"s not it. Get this man a newer, not worn out gyro!

@konstantineanufriev2588

Жыл бұрын

this man is a shill

@Briancamposarsenal08

Жыл бұрын

Cringe

A 24 hour clock that uses Earth's rotation would be a good product to shut the flat earthers up

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

Its called the sun

Bravo, sir! Great setup re the tilted board. Well explained

Great work. I'm surprised to not see "CGI" claimed.

Thanks Bob.

Well done!

To flatearthners no matter what you show, it should always be a trick.

@sceptic6132

2 жыл бұрын

It usually is...

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@sceptic6132 Could you do me a favor and provide one flat earth proof that's not a trick?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

I guess the answer to that is "No, Jesse, all flat earth proofs are tricks."

*A 15 degree per hour drift*

@konstantineanufriev2588

Жыл бұрын

EKAMASTERS EKAMASTERS 1 year ago (edited) A 15 degree per hour drift sun or moon yes

@CepheusMappy

Жыл бұрын

@@konstantineanufriev2588 what you mean is right ascension. Not drift Edit: Also, if you mean that, how can the Gyroscope detect the drift of Alpha Geminorum? Remember that if you mean by that, not only the sun an the moon, but also *trillions of stars*

This video is a perfect visual and physical example that can help provide undeniable evidence for the Earth. Thank you for your work, this deserves to get shared everywhere for its succinct point and professional editing. Well done.

@lethalfire6247

3 жыл бұрын

@S:O:L:I:D A natural phenomena must be observed in nature is one of the most stupid words to have ever come out of a human mouth

@eyestoseefe7618

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@eyestoseefe7618

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, go walk, you think the ground is spinning? Hahahahaha it's hilarious, people think they're on a spinning ball

@m.philo.g7580

2 жыл бұрын

@@eyestoseefe7618 Oh? And what do you pose against this video. You walked outside and didn't feel the spin? Wrap it up boys this ones too smart for us. There is no counter argument to employ here, the evidence is clear.

@eyestoseefe7618

2 жыл бұрын

@@m.philo.g7580 So you claim the Earth moves under your feet at 1038mph and this Video is proof? So you don't notice the motion at all, no human being ever has and yet a Gyroscope moving is proof? I'm surprised you can even notice that it moves because you walk at 3 mph and can't notice a ball spinning under you at 1038mph, Go watch some Space Cartoons buddy because you clearly can't use your head and you're gonna pretend to be a genius, stick to your Space cartoons Cadet

I’m curious, what your are communicating with using the terminal app? BTW, really nice. I stayed interested for the entire video.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just using the terminal app as a calculator to convert hours:minutes:seconds into pure decimal hours - and to subtract the H:M:S timestamps from eachother so it is easy to see what the elapsed time is, and the number of degrees per hour. Think of the terminal app as a fancy scientific calculator.

@aarinisles

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse OK. I used to use a terminal app to talk to other machines and devices as well as modems. Yours had a similar look to what I remember from the 90’s. Thanks for answering. I was thinking for a minute you may be talking to a calculator over RS232.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@aarinisles Ahh - that explains your usage of the word "Communicating," which had me a little confused. But no, it's just the free program "bc" which is an open source text interface calculator program which ships stock with Linux.

Hey Jesse, I'm curious how the gyro kept spinning for so long, is it because of the vacuum only or is it also electricly powered? Also, do you know how long it would spin without electric power (if it uses any)? Any idea where I could get my hand on one of those (or similar) by the way?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

These gyroscopes which I used for this test are all vacuum powered. I had them connected to a vacuum pump to keep them running for the duration of the test. This type of gyro is often available on ebay. They also come in electric so you don't need a vacuum pump. They are called a Directional Gyro or Heading Indicator, or HI (which stands for Heading Indicator.) You can pay thousand dollars for a good certified one, or you can get old ones that may or may not work for less, like this: www.ebay.com/itm/303748706874 (That's a vacuum unit. They are cheaper, but you need a vacuum pump or continuous duty high flow pressure pump to run them.) I couldn't find any affordable electric powered ones on ebay (Note that a number of the ones that are sold as electric actually are vacuum powered because many ebay junk recycler sellers don't know the difference...) But the vacuum operated ones can work. But if you watch my whole video, you will see that they do have inherent drift, which you must compensate for.

@boardwalkbw7130

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse If its vacuum powered, then how is it mechanical...I guess I always considered mechanical as similar to a gyro that need no "power" to it at all.

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@boardwalkbw7130 A mechanical mechanism is still mechanical even if it's powered by an electric or other type of power source. But air is a fluid and fluids have mechanical properties. Look up "Fluid mechanics." so regardless of whether the wheel is spun up by air or electricity or is just coasting after the air or electricity has been removed, the gyroscopic effect is still a mechanical effect, unlike a laser-ring-gyro which is optical. Regardless, since air is a fluid and fluids are mechanical, these air powered gyros really are entirely mechanical.

@boardwalkbw7130

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Thank you...just trying to learn all I can.

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

@@boardwalkbw7130 What ?

I've shown this to a flat earther. He said well I had one and it didn't do that

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

That is correct - if the bearings are sticky or rough, or the gymbal mechanism is out of balance, then the gyro movement can get stuck. AND, some models of gyros actually have a small wire spring that puts drag on the dial to keep it from drifting when the airplane is on the ground. Ironically Flat Earther Rob Durham shows this in his video, but says he doesn't know what it's for: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIl6r7ykqNLJmNY.html If he had also tried putting his gyro on a slowly rotating platform that turned at 15 degrees per hour, he would have seen that his gyro DOES NOT read slow movement due to that little spring drag brake. In order to measure for earth rotation, you need an instrument that actually responds to the rate of rotation you're measuring. Does that make sense? You can't measure the weight of a flea on a bathroom scale. The scale will read 0. Does that mean the flea doesn't have weight? Doh, of course not. To measure the weight of the flea, you have to first find a scale that is sensitive enough to measure the weight of a flea. And Rob's gyro has too much friction to pick up 15 degrees per hour drift BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED that way, so it wouldn't drift while sitting on the runway!

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

Also, sometimes the flat earthers actually have their gyros tethered by wires like John Savage: He did test his gyro on a slowly rotating clock motor, BUT he had it tethered with a wire, and pretended it was impossible for the wire to influence the gyro even though you can see the wire pulling the gyro here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHpslJuKfq7ahJs.html And here he inadvertently shows how much drag his gymbal bearings have: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHpslJuKfq7ahJs.html In other words, he tried a bunch of different experiments EXCEPT the one he should have tried! He tried the gyro on a slowly rotating platform, but he had it tethered by a wire. He tried it with an onboard battery and not tethered, but NOT on a slowly rotating platform. He refused to do the one thing that would be useful: RUN THE GYRO WITH NO WIRES ON A SLOWLY ROTATING PLATFORM. Even though he had the small battery pack and even though he had a rotating platform, he wouldn't use them together. Why? Because it would have shown that his gyro was too stiff in the bearings to actually measure the rotation of the earth.

@konstantineanufriev2588

Жыл бұрын

5 also did not do that

@boardwalkbw7130

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Yea, I like this experiment as I have been desparately seeking any proof of earths rotation. But, it does not seem to be "mechanical" if its vacuum powered...any "power" to it negates the term "mechanical"

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@boardwalkbw7130 Uhh, I think you may be mistaken about a power source negating the term "mechanical." The point is that the gyroscopic effect used to hold rigidity in space is strictly mechanical, as apposed to a ring laser gyro which is optical. Would you say that a car engine is not mechanical because it runs on gasoline exploding with air? But if you want to get really technical, please google "Fluid mechanics" because the topic of fluid mechanics is the study of fluid behavior, at rest and in motion. Then look up the definition of fluid - it is any substance which has no fixed shape and yields easily to external pressure -- this includes liquids AND gasses, like air! So even the action of the air rushing through the nozzle and striking the impeller causing it to spin is in fact a mechanical action! So even though an electric-powered mechanical gyro is still using the mechanical gyro effect, it is powered by electricity, which is not a strictly mechanical power delivery method. But air flow IS a purely mechanical power delivery method, so these gyroscopes are in fact purely mechanical, not only in their function as a gyroscope but also their power source!

Fabulous work. This will bring some tears to Flat Earthers.

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wolfie! I always loved your cockpit videos showing how the horizon dips! I'm so honored that you commented!

@billdevitt4324

4 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Well done, Gentlemen! 😉

@flo-plus

4 жыл бұрын

Wolfie6020 Hi Wolfie, nice to meet you here! I remember you had such a gyro, too. But it was an artificial horizon and not a heading indicator, when I remember it correctly. Wouldn’t it be possible to perform a similar experiment with this device when the pendulous vanes are removed?

@flo-plus

4 жыл бұрын

IgotQuestions quite daring of you writing about „shitty vids“ regarding your channel‘s content:D Have you watched this video? And have you watched Wolfie‘s videos? He has *not* the same device, he has an artificial horizon. With the same devices, he, you and everyone else would of course get similar results! The artificial horizon, on the other hand, contains mechanism for automatic erection. I totally understand that Wolfie is not willing to modify and possibly destroy such an expensive instrument in order to prove something that already everyone knows except some poor individuals failing to accept reality.

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

@@flo-plus I also have an old electric driven artificial horizon similar to Wolfie's except mine had been in a downed plane in the salt water - I been fixing it up but I removed the pendulous vanes and all the extra bits sow now it's just a plane gyro. It's in pretty rough shape but if I can get it working good it should be easier for demonstrating than the vacuum driven units because I can run it with the cover off.

you are amazing!

Probably a dumb question, but would it be possible to reverse the polarity of the electrical charge to cause an opposite rotation? Then you could compare the two to see if you got the same results. Or is that even possible? Thanks

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

These run on air pressure, they only run one way. But if you look over my videos, look for the one by Stephan P. His was custom made and he could reverse it and even though he reversed it, it still had an apparent drift in the same direction as before reversing it. As for this video of mine, I did rotate the gyros 180 degrees to compensate for gyro drift. And it still showed earth rotation.

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

UMMMM its vacuum powered

I'd love to see what results you get if you run this experiment comparing motion N and then motion S during the hours before and after sunrise, vs. before and after sunset, vs. during mid-day.

@numbynumb

3 жыл бұрын

What effect do you think that would have on the result?

@OrphanRed

3 жыл бұрын

@@numbynumb Russian research into pendulums and gyroscopes have found anomalous effects related to eclipses, but also to seasons and times of day. If there are vector changes in the fields that are different at dawn/dusk, it would be nice to document such differences.

@numbynumb

3 жыл бұрын

@@OrphanRed Interesting. It seems like his gyros are too worn out and imprecise to carry out a credible test though.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@numbynumb Not true at all. It is credible through the statistical significance. If you tossed a penny and got 10 heads in a row, it'd raise your eyebrow because there's only one chance in 1024 of getting that. Likewise, I did several tests, averaging the N-drift against the S-drift, and there was a very very significant number that emerged on all the tests: 15 degrees per hour. And all in the same direction. What are chances of multiple consecutive tests all giving the same result every time? So while it may not be the greatest equipment in the world, and while it may not be the end all absolute proof accurate to one billionth of a degree per hour, it is still very valid, very meaningful, and statistically significant. And it's far more valid and accurate than anything you have measuring non-rotation.

@numbynumb

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse I was referring only to the idea of testing anomalies during eclipses, etc. as Orphan Red had propsed in this thread.

awesome!!! Is there a way to test the velocity vector in he centrifugal force of the spinning earth? and increase in the outwards centrifugal force as longer up we go and the decrease as deeper we go?`

@metaspectivate

7 ай бұрын

You don't need to measure it, you can calculate it. f = ma (force equals mass times acceleration) and a = v-squared/r (acceleration in a circle equals the linear velocity at the circumference squared, divided by the radius). The force acts directly away from the centre of the circle (away from the centre of the earth in this case) until the body is no longer in contact with the surface (then the body reverts to free motion, as in Newton's laws). It's best to use SI units for all the variables (so, no miles, pounds, etc.) so that the answers make sense. Don't get too excited, though, as it is not a big number, since r is quite large.

very very nice

If this thing will just sit there and move 15% every hour, then what good is it for indicating headings? It looks like it must be broken because I wouldn't think it would just move like that if you were using it to indicate your heading. Wouldn't it give false headings?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

Right you are, that's why pilots are trained to reset them to magnetic compass heading every 15 minutes. The purpose of these is to provide instantaneous heading change readings for doing quick turns in cloud banks. The magnetic compass isn't good for quick turns because it takes time to settle. But also, a good instrument shop would adjust the latitude nut on these to compensate for the apparent drift for the latitude that the airplane normally flew at.

@laszlomarton4919

4 ай бұрын

I don't understand how this works. Why rely on this if it "drifts" or follows Earth's rotation? As a pilot, you'd want this to be rock steady and not change so you have a reference point during the entire flight. If it changes 15 degrees per hour then where is the airplane flying after 5 hours?

Come on guys, Earth is round and stationary. Gyro's non continuous motion is due to its vibration... Actually gyro has become supersensitive to vibrations due to evacuation...

@stuartgray5877

13 күн бұрын

We measure earth rotation and curvature tens of thousands of times a day worldwide using fiber-optic gyros. I have been doing this as part of my job for almost 30 years.

You should test this at different elevations it will disprove what you are clamming as long as your latitude point stays the same ......

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _You should test this at different elevations it will disprove what you are clamming as long as your latitude point stays the same ......_ I'm not sure what you're saying. Try sentences with punctuation. Remember, if you watched the video clear through, I have the axis of the gyroscope pointed at or at right angles to the north star. So even if I did it at a different altitude or latitude, I'd still point it at the north star then at right angles to the north star, so the rotation would be the same.

You know how to turn an airplane 10 degrees to the left when it's screwed up and would only turn right? You turn it 350 degrees to the right, LOL.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

_>You know how to turn an airplane 10 degrees to the left when it's screwed up and would only turn right? You turn it 350 degrees to the right, LOL._ I had to do that once on an 8ft model scratch built foamie. A strip of tape the full length on the top of one of the wings had come loose, and when in flight,it lifted up like a spinnaker sail, causing enough drag on one side that it would only turn that way: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6uky6WvgaatYs4.html Full control to the left gave only a slight sporadic left response. If I went straight on the controls, it turned hard to the right. I tried bringing it back around to the left to land it but couldn't, so I let it turn right (which it was happy to do) then broad it back and crash landed it LOL.

Jesse, would you be willing to do this demonstration with an observer there? I would like to witness this experiment in person. Would you up for talking about this on the phone or possibly on my podcast?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

> _Jesse, would you be willing to do this demonstration with an observer there?_ Absolutely! Standard house rules apply - my home and shop are drug-free and weed-free zones, so urine or you're out, as the old saying goes :D (Nothing personal - this applies to everybody, not just you. I don't know anything about you. I've had bad experience with coworkers and even friends of 20 years who got on weed.) As an alternative to in-person, (or in addition to) I'm open to the idea of live-streaming the whole process if technologically feasible. > _Would you up for talking about this on the phone or possibly on my podcast?_ Absolutely! I'm on Discord, are you on Discord? That would be best because I can screen share and point at stuff to help explain my apparatus if needed.

@FlatEarthAndCoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Hello Jesse. As you saw from my channel (and probably my avatar) I am a cosmological researcher. As a researcher with intellectual honesty, my beliefs are fluid. I'd love to talk about this on the phone if possible. Where can I find you on Discord? I rarely use it, but I'll jump on to reach out to you. Thanks.

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@FlatEarthAndCoffee I'm on Geo's, 24/7 FE Discord, Shane's discord, Jose's discord, Official Flat Earth Discord, and others. You on any of those?

@FlatEarthAndCoffee

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse No. But I just joined Official Flat Earth and I'm waiting the mandatory 10 minutes. .

@FlatEarthAndCoffee

Жыл бұрын

​@@fromjesse Apparently I don't have permission to speak on any channel. Do you have Skype?

I should be able to rig up a modern gyroscope from a rc flight Controller to do the same or is there something that would prevent the gyrosope on in to get precise enough readings?

@fromjesse

Ай бұрын

Yes, you could do the exact same thing with a MEMS gyro. I used mechanical because most people don't understand how a MEMS gyro works, but everybody knows what a spinning brass wheel looks like :D

@stuartgray5877

13 күн бұрын

The "Gyros" in any commercially available device are not likely to be able to sense earth rates. Because technology of this level of sensitivity is regulated under ITAR regulations. I test these devices as part of my job. I can talk about them but if I share any detailed design or performance specs I can face federal charges.

@fromjesse

13 күн бұрын

@@stuartgray5877 But don't you think it would be possible to use even a cheap MEMS gyro at 45 degrees north, mounted on a 45 degree slant on a level rotatable table, and get an average drift rate "pointing north" then rotate it 180 degrees while still keeping at the same level orientation and get another average drift rate and as long as you kept the temperature constant, you should see the15 degrees per hour drift difference like I did in this video, right?

@stuartgray5877

13 күн бұрын

@@fromjesse It might work. But I'll tell you: for some of our "cheaper small spacecraft" we use some of the less advanced commercially available IRUs with MEMs Gyros. For those cheaper buses we have chosen to rotate the entire spacecraft to test the IRU because they are not sensitive enough to sense earth rates without sitting for a long time VERY quietly. It can be done but is not practical. For the more advanced units, they can sense earth rates in as little as 5 minutes if in a favorable orientation with respect to earths spin axis.

Recommended?

I want to buy a gyroscope now and play with it! :)

@aarinisles

3 жыл бұрын

I started looking on ebay and Etsy. Saw several that looked decent around $100.

@konstantineanufriev2588

Жыл бұрын

@@aarinisles bought 5 electrical 28v directional and altitude gyros, same setup nothing moved 0 degrees in24 hrs

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@konstantineanufriev2588 I presume you mean Attitude Gyro -- those will not show any drift, because they have pendulous vanes which keep them leveled out at all times. The directional gyros sometimes have friction mechanisms in them to keep them from drifting on the runway, or perhaps the bearings were old and dried out, or the brushes were sticky in the gimbal. But one thing is for sure, if your gyro wasn't drifting at all, it's got friction. A freely moving gyro always has SOME drift just due to slight imbalance. Also, you have to uncage it. If you leave the cage knob activated, it will certainly never drift. Got a video of your experiment?

@konstantineanufriev2588

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse I use directional, different brands.

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@konstantineanufriev2588 I would love to see the video you have of your experiments! Can you please upload video of your experiments? Thank you!

Interesting I like

have you try during eclipes?

Hi fromjesse. Amazing work! If it is ok for you, i'm gong to put on my channel the first 3 minutes of your video with italian subtitles, with link and credits at your video.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

That would be wonderful!

Interesting :))

So you are able to manipulate the gyros ? And they are irregular?

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what you're asking. I kept them very carefully level so as to not manipulate them. Are what irregular?

360=24 hours 15= 1hour if course only in horizontal direction

I'd like to review this and feature it on my channel, do you mind?

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

I don't mind at all!

@nazalostizsrbije

4 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Perez I don't have time to watch.Simple question,are you glober or flat earther?

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Perez Cool! I left a comment on your video about pumps

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

@@nazalostizsrbije I'm whatever the truth leads me to be. Just watch the video and you'll see where I'm at in my journey.

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

@Hugo Perez I had seen FECORE's version that did not show a drift, had not seen this! Very cool!

I wonder if those pilots where MCAS was stubbornly pushing their nose down, what if they just pushed the nose down on purpose and wait until the picture behind the window would make one full turn around and the airplane would fly level again? Apart from gastric disturbances for the passengers, would it break the wings off by G force or something?

Fake. Put the compass on the table, make a timelapse of only the compass, to see how much it "changes".

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _Fake. Put the compass on the table, make a timelapse of only the compass, to see how much it "changes"._ LOL, it's so charming how people who've never done an experiment in their life and cry "Fake! Fake!" to those who have done experiments! But seriously, what's your point? Do you think the compass will slowly turn once every day? What is it that you're trying to say?

@MaGaO

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Don't worry too much. Your video was posted to a FE group on Facebook and they got a bit sensitive.

i calculated this by myself, and i search for a video to make sure it is crazy, same answer,, i felt crazy

If gyroscopes are anti-gravity and stay in the position they started... how would they work going around earth curve? Seems they would only work on a flat plane.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

After deep and persistent thought regarding the question you raise, it seems to me that gyroscopes would work just fine on a rotating earth, so everything is OK.

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

You have to be kidding, or are you saying the pizza is spinning? Because that opens up another whole barrel of worms!

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogwalker666 The pizza is in fact spinning.

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse wow a visit to the Circum-fence is a must now! Bungee jump off the edge whizzing through space at over 2000mph weeeeee. He he.

@mrwhite2039

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse You didnt answer his question you just said it would work without explaining

My flat earth buddy said if i can show him myself then he'll believe it. So I'm planning to duplicate this experiment. Great work btw.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You can definitely duplicate this experiment! You do have to have a gyro who's bearings are free enough to let the gyro drift even very slowly. And unless you spend a lot of money, the gyro probably won't drift at a constant 15 degrees per hour because the bearings have some friction and the gymbal isn't absolutely perfectly balanced - but as you saw this video, you can run the gyro with the axle pointing at the north star and see what it's drift is, then rotate it so the axle is at right angles to the north star (or southern cross if in Australia!) then you subtract the two drift rates to get the earth's rotation rate.

@boardwalkbw7130

Жыл бұрын

I would love to see this duplicated multiple times...and also show the process of the setup

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@boardwalkbw7130 > _I would love to see this duplicated multiple times...and also show the process of the setup_ Just watch the video! I know it's long, but it shows the setup, and it shows it duplicated 3 times! I use 3 different gyroscopes in the video to show that they all do the same thing!

That click when you pull or push the knob must be loud?

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

The click is sort of loud, but not as loud as the auto-matic gain control makes it seem. The phone was pretty close and it must be the perfect sound to really trigger the AGC!

@marvinmartinsYT

4 жыл бұрын

fromjesse I sorta thought that. Though thought it fairly loud to trigger the auto gain. Cheers

If it did not cost 20,000 $, it's no worth 😂

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I offered to trade out one of mine for Bob's faulty one. If you're reading this Bob, I can trade your broken shifty nifty drifty gyro for a good one with modeling clay to stabilize the bearings!

@Gwirmusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse 😂😂😂

Wait, he said it is a gyrocompass and then call it a gyroscope. So which is it?

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

Read the description, dufus.

@Amanlikeme

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Yean, I looked right past that one, huh? And I hadn't gotten past the first two minutes. So, why is there a compass in the video? I'll ask you the same questions? The gyroscope on a ship more than 70 miles should have a more than 1 degree change over earth's curvature, right? Not a gyrocompass, a gyroscope.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amanlikeme the compass is in the video to show roughly which way is north. Watch the video clear through, I do explain therein why north matters for my observation. I'm not what you're trying to ask about a ship and a gyro and 70 miles. Can you please explain, give some context and specify a type of compass instrument you have on mind (for example, do you mean a heading indicator like shown in the video, or an attitude indicator? ) Thanks!

@Amanlikeme

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Have you given it any more thought? A gyroscope, designed and made like for an airplane, to keep it spinning, but not from an airplane, and configured to measure the curvature of earth while it travels more than 69 miles over earth's surface on a ship. It should show more than a degree of change, 60 miles per degree. A compass isn't necessary, because it doesn't matter which way you go, as long as you're going straight.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amanlikeme I gave it lots of thought, but your question is still making zero sense. But you don't have to travel 69 miles, all you have to do is wait an hour and the gyro registers 15 degrees. Get it? Even Bob Knodel figured that out! Or you can wait 4 minutes and you've already rotated a degree. GYROSCOPES SHOW THIS. What is your question? Or is it a statement?

You wouldn't be able to pick up the movement of the earth with this device.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _You wouldn't be able to pick up the movement of the earth with this device._ Ahh my friend, you argue from personal incredulity! That is the weakest form of argument. It is in fact a logical fallacy, and is worse than no argument at all! It shows that not only do you have no argument, it also shows that you are incapable of even identifying a good argument. But never mind all that, I did pick up the movement of the earth. All 3 gyroscopes gave 15 degrees per hour. And all in the same direction. And all in the same direction the sun goes by. And guess what! The angle of the measured rotation matched my latitude ON A BALL EARTH.

@Briancamposarsenal08

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse if the earth rotated at 1038 mph, while tilted on its axis, and spinning around the sun at much greater speeds, then it would be impossible to have uniform constellations that never change for thousands of years…yet we do, they’re called star trails which never deviate, ever. How do you explain that?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@Briancamposarsenal08 The stars do change slightly over time. It's called Proper Motion. Look it up. Bernard's star is one that has a lot more motion than other stars.

@Briancamposarsenal08

Жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse you’re not understanding. If the earth is in motion in the universe the way they say it is, star trails would look like a Jackson Pollock painting. But yet they don’t deviate, it’s how the ancients used to get around, and we still use them to calculate to this day. The fact we use them for calculation in itself is proof they do not deviate, so no they don’t resemble what it SHOULD look like when moving at several different axis. They’re called star trails for a reason, because they follow their same trail. How do you explain this?

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

@@Briancamposarsenal08 > _you’re not understanding. If the earth is in motion in the universe the way they say it is, star trails would look like a Jackson Pollock painting._ You are incorrect. If you actually look at the claimed distances and velocities of stars, star trails would look exactly like they do.

How tf does the artificial horizon in planes work then

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

They use pendulous vanes to self-level, like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rGWFqbSJhqXApto.html

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

Pendulas vanes

What about at the equator where the stars diverge

@fromjesse

13 күн бұрын

The stars don't diverge. They only appear to because of the distortion of the lens. If you actually MEASURE the ANGLE between any two stars throughout the night, you will find that the angle between them actually remains CONSTANT.

@user-kn1yc6pu5h

13 күн бұрын

@@fromjesse so they don’t 100%?

Do u delete comments?

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Rarely. If somebody is threatening, severely insulting, or spamming ads or link-farming, I delete and report. But if a human makes a sincere comment to me, I don't think I've ever deleted any of those! The fact is I really enjoy the challenge of helping flat earthers see that they are wrong. So make your best argument - but be reasonably polite, honest, and be generally on topic, and you should be fine! (And, unfortunately, I only speak English, so I do ask that your comments be in English.)

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Also I just found out, sometimes comments don't show up because youtube is buggy, but sometimes you can see them by setting "Sort by" to "Newest first"

@efgtest

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Challenge accepted.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

​@@efgtest _>Years ago, you could find many great info about Gyroscopes. Nowadays the only thing you can find are some garbage Gyroscope or videos that fits the 15 degree range or some kinds of Torque teachings en calculation. Google removed most of the best videos. People just don't understand. They really want to believe in a spherical Globe with water around it and a nice gravity story. A quick search on Gyroscope gives you the same bullshit selected garbage Gyroscope videos or all kinds of Gyroscope Camera stabilizer. You will never see OR find anything of the real deal gyroscopes. Flat Earth made most Globe and FE aware of the Gyroscope. Before that no one knew about Gyroscope. Propaganda is one of the most powerful thing. that is for sure. People just don't understand. Greetings Stationary Flat Plane._ Ehhh? Garbage gyroscopes? _>You will never see OR find anything of the real deal gyroscopes._ Good news my friend, my gyroscopes shown above are not garbage they are real old fashioned mechanical gyroscopes. _>Flat Earth made most Globe and FE aware of the Gyroscope. Before that no one knew about Gyroscope._ Oh, you're high no something crystalline. Sorry to break it to you, but gyroscopes have been getting used in airplanes and submarines and ships for a hundred years! The world knew about them long before you knew about the flat earth nonsense.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@efgtest Maybe this is one of those GOOD gyroscope videos you're talking about, by John Savage: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHpslJuKfq7ahJs.html

Friend can you explain why pointing the gyro north rather than south causes the gyroscope to measure no rotation? This doesnt make sense to me. Further, later on at about 35 minutes i listen to you say something like "this gyroscope has more internal drift than the rotation of the Earth, and actually cancels out the rotation and overcomes it in the opposite direction" This video seems disingenuous, to say the least. Is this really something that can be relied on to prove rotation? As an unbiased observer, i would say clearly not. This seems like someone ignoring a failed experiment and using strips of data to prove a preconceived notion. Your instrument should not need extended calculations and comparisons to detect something as consistent and fundamental as the rotation of the entire mass you are standing on.

@fromjesse

4 ай бұрын

Perhaps you should watch it again, when you have time, with the sound turned on, straight through, without skipping around or fast forwarding. I explain everything very clearly in the video. Please let me know after you've watched it clear through at normal speed with the sound on a second time if you still have a question! You need to care about your education as much as I do! You said: > _This video seems disingenuous, to say the least._ Bud, that is unbelievable. Someone goes to a whole bunch of effort to test and document a very subtle phenomenon of reality for free, explains it clearly and makes a video, and you, who never even did a science experiment or touched a gyroscope once in your life, tell me it's disingenuous -- and you didn't even watch the video straight through with the sound on (or at least you don't even know enough about gyroscopes to understand what's going on....) Please please learn the topic before telling other people they are disingenuous. Cheers

Hey you seen to know a alot about gyros could I ask you about all the flat earthers gryo based arguments

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

Flat earthers who have expensive gyros do show earth rotation, and they blame it on "the energies of the heavens rotating." Bob Knodel used a fiber optic laser ring gyro and it gave earth rotation at 15 degrees per hour. He also used a spinning gyro which showed the same thing once it was set up correctly, but he only released video from before it was set up correctly and lied about the results. Now FECORE is trying to figure out how a commercial gyrocompass works - they got one - and it accurately seeks to true north without using the magnetic field of the earth, which it does based on the earth's rotation. However, there have been a number of demonstrations with gyros that did not show earth rotation, and those either had slightly sticky bearings or were tethered by their power wires. In fact it takes an extremely free moving gyro gimbal to track the earth's rotation. If you have a particular flat earth gyro video you find convincing I'd be glad to review it and let you know what I think is happening!

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome to ask questions! My reddit account is u/Jesse9857

@mrwhite2039

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse How convenient "all gyroscopes that dont show what we want have "sticky bearings" or "tethered wires".

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

They are like there space is fake, rockets cannot work in a vacuum, gravity doesn't exist, compass only show N, aircraft dip their nose etc etc

Your video has too many bloody ads! Ads come on every time I change sections of the video. You're sure in it for the money!

@fromjesse

2 ай бұрын

Yeah sorry, don't blame me - youtube forces ads and does not pay me. I do not even have enough subs to monetize if I wanted to, I have no control and do not get paid. Use A D B L O C K P L U S or Brave Browser to get rid of the ads.

Questo test e' stato fatto con un girodirezionale o girobussola.. non con un giroscopio!!! Pertanto il girodirezionale non e' atto a vedere la rotazione o l'inclinazione della terra.. ma e' uno strumento che fa' da bussola.. ed ha bisogno di essere periodicamente tarato da una bussola magnetica perche' perde di precisione...

@fromjesse

10 ай бұрын

Well, you are partly correct and partly incorrect. It doesn't act like a compass because it has no mechanism to detect which way is North. However it is used to supplement the compass during brief periods of rapid motions of the aircraft. Regardless, it is a free running compass and did allow me to measure earth rotation rate.

@dakotahlavender

5 ай бұрын

​@@fromjesseIf it doesn't detect a direction, it would not be a compass.

@dakotahlavender

5 ай бұрын

✌🏻

_"Earth is not a spinning ball! It doesn't rotate! It is stationary"_ lol

Your camera is pointed at the device with no point of reference to prove that it is immobile. Experiments conducted with optical gyroscopes debunk this nonsense!

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

You think you want a different camera view? Well I could have just use CGI to give you whatever camera view you want. No video is ever proof of anything, because anything can be faked. For what it's worth, that gray background material is my basement floor. You have my word that it's stuck 8 feet in the ground and it's not turning relative to the earth around it. The important point of this video is it TEACHES you how to DO IT YOURSELF. If you don't trust me, at least you know what I'm claiming to do and you can try it yourself. Ya know? You said: _>Experiments conducted with optical gyroscopes debunk this nonsense!_ You are incorrect. Remember Uncle Bob in Behind the Curve? He literally proved 15 degrees an hour with an optical gyroscope.

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

15 degrees per hour THANKS BOB

@antonioachilescastro4458

8 ай бұрын

@@fromjesse🤣🤣🤣 You insist on relying on these examples of using devices because you can’t rely ok your own senses! We see too far! That alone debunks the globe indoctrination. Here’s one question to you or any globehead out there: show the proof that the sun is allegedly 93 million miles away. Be prepared to review every facet of the claim based on a globe 24,901 miles around!🤣🤣🤣

@antonioachilescastro4458

8 ай бұрын

@@gowdsake7103so gyros allegedly precess 15 degrees an hour. Try that on optical gyros. All you are detecting is the ether.

I am geocentrist, not flat earther (which means i am not stupid). In one discussion on Flat Earth Society forum a guy by the name DataOverFlow2022 asked me (after sending me link to your video) _You have any proof the well documented Apparent wander of a mechanical gyroscope is anything other than from the earth’s rotation._ This is my answer to him : Awesome experiment, thank you very much for this video :) Well, it seems that i was wrong and these guys were right (only now (now that i see this effect with my own eyes) i'll pay [b]due[/b] attention to what these guys have to say) : *Aether tests* : Foucault pendulum 1851 - Rotation caused by Earth's aether vortex Global Positioning System 1993+ E-W delays caused by Earth's aether vortex Atmospheric circulation - pattern contradicts rotation model Stellar Aberration 1727 transverse aether flow Fresnel 1818-30 Fizeau 1851 aether drag by water Faraday Rotor (Homopolar) Generator 1831 Faraday found there is an induced current if a conductor and a magnet are joined together and rotated, having no relative motion to each other, but only to the aether. Geometrical Parallax 1838 each star has a specific aether vortex Airy 1871 Water in telescope causes no change in aberration ==> deflection occurs in transit â sideways aether flow Gyro Drop 1977 Observations of a falling gyroscope reveal a slight enhancement of inertia - the aether - by the gravitational field. A rotating mass will fall more rapidly - with greater acceleration than an equivalent non-rotating mass. Classical physics cannot explain this. Aspden Effect 1995 This experiment involved a gyroscope whose wheel was highly magnetic. The energy required to spin up to maximum speed was 1000 joules. For up to 60 seconds after the gyroscope stopped rotating, it would take ten times less energy to return it to the original velocity - only 100 joules. Aspdenâs gyroscopes would retain their hidden aether energy for a full 60 seconds. Marinov Plasma Tube 1996A cylindrical magnet is cut along an axial plane and one half is turned upside-down (the magnetic forces themselves do the rotation). Around this magnet is a trough filled with mercury in which a copper ring floats. A current from the battery causes the ring to rotate. Working either as a motor or a generator, there is no opposing torque to the direction of rotation. As long as power is drawn from it, it will power itself. Demonstrates the torsional energy of the ether. Casimir Effect 1997 Two mirrors facing each other in empty space are mutually attracted to each other by the vacuum electro-magnetic field. The Casimir effect is due to aether resonance in the intervening space between objects. *As for MMX* : to the scientists, the so called "null result" implied two possibilities: 1) Either there wasn’t anything called Ether 2) or the Earth must be dragging a layer or blob of Ether around it in which case there wouldn’t be any Ether wind to detect. Apparently evidence from other observations (aberration of star light, Fizeau exp, Sagnac effect etc) has disproved the possibility of Ether drag, so the scientific community is left with the first possibility. Thus scientists have interpreted the null result in MM experiment as disproof of existence of Ether medium. But relativists are extremely good at (or more correctly, extremely vulnerable to) misinterpreting experimental data and claiming every observation as highly supportive of their stupid religion of relativity even when the observation in fact proves the opposite. And Michelson’s experiment is not an exception to their distorted thinking. *As for the coriolis effect* : Geocentricity detractors often appeal to the coriolis effect. It is, like the rest of the appeals, vain. The observations would be the same geocentrically or heliocentrically. [b]Dr. Bouw[/b] covers it in detail in his books and explains how the coriolis *effect* becomes an actual coriolis *force* under a geocentric setup (and centrifugal force becomes centrifugal effect). Here are some more quotes on the matter from some esteemed scientists: The Coriolis effect arises, *equally*, whether the Earth rotates or the cosmos rotates. - *Rick DeLano* "One need not view the existence of such centrifugal forces as originating from the motion of K [e.g.-the Earth]; one could just as well account for them as resulting from the average rotational effect of distant, detectable masses as evidenced in the vicinity of K, whereby K is treated as being at rest. - *Albert Einstein*, quoted in Hans Thirring, "On the Effect of Distant Rotating Masses in Einstein's Theory of Gravitation", Physikalische Zeitschrift 22, 29, 1921 "If one rotates the shell relative to the fixed stars about an axis going through its center, a Coriolis force arises in the interior of the shell, *that is, the plane of a Foucault pendulum is dragged around*" - *Albert Einstein,* cited in "Gravitation", Misner Thorne and Wheeler pp. 544-545. "...Thus we may return to Ptolemy's point of view of a 'motionless earth'...One has to show that the transformed metric can be regarded as produced according to Einstein's field equations, by distant rotating masses. This has been done by Thirring. He calculated a field due to a rotating, hollow, thick-walled sphere and proved that inside the cavity it behaved as though there were centrifugal and other inertial forces usually attributed to absolute space. Thus from Einstein's point of view, Ptolemy and Corpenicus are equally right." - *Max Born,* "Einstein's Theory of Relativity", Dover Publications, 1962, pp 344 & 345. One other guy (sandokhan) said this : _The mechanical gyroscope detects the Coriolis effect: The Coriolis effect can have two possible causes: either the Earth is rotating around its own axis, or it is the ether field which is rotating above the surface of the Earth. The deciding factor is the Sagnac effect._ My reply to Sandokhan : And in the latter case directional gyro frame is at rest and the spinning rotor actually drifts. So, in this case there is no rigidity in space as far as the spinning rotor of a gyro is concerned which is pretty counterintuitive, not as much as the alleged rotation of the earth though...

@pratprat8477

Жыл бұрын

Im not a flat earther but saying flat earhters are stupid makes you sound like an idiot.. I wouild say anyone who askes questions and want to know the truth are no stupid. Once they get the proof they will not belive the earth is flat anymore. Its that simple.

@awatt

11 ай бұрын

TL; DR; Everything you said is wrong.

@masumoto007

11 ай бұрын

​@@awattmaybe tldr is your problem😅😂😅

@awatt

11 ай бұрын

@@masumoto007 I don't have to read that lot. Heliocentric confirmed 💯☀️

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

Only point I have to make there is no aether ! see how simple that is

The earths fields rotates, you are picking up the movement of the earth field that rotates around us daily at that rate.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _The earths fields rotates, you are picking up the movement of the earth field that rotates around us daily at that rate._ That may be your opinion, but can you demonstrate your claim? Answer = NO NO NO + NO NO NO = NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

@awatt

Жыл бұрын

I was in the countryside today and can assure you that the fields didn't rotate at all.

@mrwhite2039

Жыл бұрын

@@awatt as in magnetic, electo static, and aether itself. Centrifugal force differential throughout the whole system

@awatt

Жыл бұрын

@@mrwhite2039 They are definitely words. Why not put them into a coherent sentence?

@mrwhite2039

Жыл бұрын

@@awatt I said they weren't words?

Why do you think it does not show the 66000 mph we circle sun or the 500000 mph they clam we are expanding

@fromjesse

4 жыл бұрын

You don't know the difference between an angular rate and a linear rate, do you? I'm just curious, why did you drop out of school before the 7th grade? But since you asked, an angular rate is the rate that something is rotating - turning about a center. It's measured in the time it takes to turn one full turn. Linear rate is how long it takes something to move a given distance, like miles per hour (mph). Gyroscopes do NOT measure linear rate. They measure angular rate. That's all. 66000MPH and 500000MPH are linear rates, in miles per hour. Gyroscopes do not measure miles per hour. That's why they don't measure miles per hour. They do measure angular rate. The earth's rotation is an angular rate of about one turn in 24 hours. That's why gyroscopes measure the earth's rotation. Just think about it: when you're cruising on your motorbike on a sunny day and you're traveling at 50mph. How many RPM (revolutions per minute) is your motor doing? What's that? Oh, yes, it depends on what gear you're in. You can see that turns per time period is a different thing than linear speed.

@teej008

2 жыл бұрын

Tell me you don’t understand how a gyroscope works, without telling me you don’t understand how a gyroscope works

@gowdsake7103

8 ай бұрын

Why are you dim

Thats 10% off thats a lot......

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _Thats 10% off thats a lot......_ 10% off may be a lot for a $20,000 laser ring gyro, but it's not bad for what I've got to work with. The fact that all three gyros all averaged so close to 15 degrees an hour and all in the same direction -- and all in the direction of the stars moving overhead - that is an extreme statistical significance.

if a gyroscope is not balanced right it will drift by spinning it the other way you will see how balanced it is kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ6HxM-Idb3fYNY.html if the earth is turning you would see 1 degree ever 4 minutes you can tune your gyroscope to drift 1 degree every 4 minutes point the axis of the gyroscope to 90 degrees of the earth axes to see 1 degree every 4 min change revers the spin of the gyroscope and it should maintain the 1 degree every 4 min in the same direction if not then it is not balanced right. >navigating with a gyroscope would be impossible if the Earth is turning!

@fromjesse

6 ай бұрын

> _if a gyroscope is not balanced right it will drift by spinning it the other way you will see how balanced it is kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ6HxM-Idb3fYNbD.html Yes, I know, that's a video on my own channel :D > _you can tune your gyroscope to drift 1 degree every 4 minutes_ I know, but it's a lot trickier than you think. I tried. These things are very fidgety! But I did the next best thing, and ran them in otherwise identical conditions pointed at then pointed across from the north star. > _navigating with a gyroscope would be impossible if the Earth is turning!_ Exactly! That's why we don't navigate with a spinning gyroscope, except a gyrocompass which is mounted in such a way that it USES earth's rotation to determine true north!

The earth is a flat disc and it rotates at 33 1/2 RPM. Bite me.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe so, but I want to know where the speed knob is so I can turn it up to 45 RPM then 78 RPM and see some real action here!

@vincentwhite7693

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Cool it man, you're talking reversing time... dangerous.

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

I just want to reverse time enough so I can sell my 8 track tape collection at a profit!

@dakotahlavender

5 ай бұрын

No. Not even. It is not in space, it is not a disc..

you want to prove the Earth doesn't spin? Go outside, the Earth's spin is 1000mph right? How do you walk on it? You all are so gullible, The Earth doesn't move at all

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

Answer me this: When you're on a jet plate going 500mph - or even a computer bus going 50mph - and you stand up in the isle and walk around, how can you walk on it when it's going that fast? Can you really run 500mph to keep up with the jet plate?

@eyestoseefe7618

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse You're in the Plane not on it, why don't you try that ON the plane (plane, as in flat, duh) because you are ON the Earth not inside of it, why doesn't anyone who believes in the ball know the difference between in and on?

@eyestoseefe7618

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse A better question is this, if your plane goes 500mph and the Earth goes 1000, how do you get anywhere? It's faster than your plane... also how does the plane land if the ground is spinning at 1000mph?

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@eyestoseefe7618 > _You're in the Plane not on it, why don't you try that ON the plane (plane, as in flat, duh) because you are ON the Earth not inside of it, why doesn't anyone who believes in the ball know the difference between in and on?_ You ever been in a convertible driving with the top down, especially one with a rear windscreen? The air in the car can be moving WITH the car even with the top off: kzread.info/dash/bejne/imGe1dKDha7Rhaw.html Earth is no different. The air is moving WITH the surface of the earth. Remember, the thickness of the air compared to the diameter of the earth is such that the thickness of air is a very thin layer. Why can't the air be moving with the surface of the earth? What's to stop it? And obviously the mountains and trees drag the air along to get it turning in the first place. > _A better question is this, if your plane goes 500mph and the Earth goes 1000, how do you get anywhere? It's faster than your plane... also how does the plane land if the ground is spinning at 1000mph?_ Answer me this: You're on the commuter bus and it's going 50. You are in the back but you stand up and start jogging forward at 5mph. How can you walk to the front of the moving bus when it's going 50mph and you can only walk 5mph? You'll never get there!

@MaGaO

2 жыл бұрын

No, the Earth's spin isn't 1000mph. It is slightly less than (1/1396)rpm. Just so you get a comparable reference, the hour hand on a clock turns at (1/720)rpm. You have already been told that Earth's atmosphere turns, essentially, at the same rate Earth does (except for local perturbations): this happens because air isn't a perfect fluid so it has friction.

1:50 you debunked yourself

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

> _1:50__ you debunked yourself_ Watch the whole video and you will see that I did not debunk myself. Once you understand that I did the test multiple times using 3 different gyroscopes, and I ran each one with it's gyro wheel axle pointing at the north star then again at right angles to the north star, thus subtracting the inherent drift of the gyro. And all three gyros gave an average compensated drift of 15 degrees per hour, and all in the same direction, and all in the direction of the stars. What, you think that all just happened by chance? By the way, you make a fool of yourself if you discredit a measurement just because it has an error component. ALL REAL NUMBER MEAUREMENTS HAVE SOME ERROR! When you step on the bathroom scale and it reads 150.0, do you think you're exactly 150.000000000000000000000 ? Of course you're not. The scale probably has an accuracy of plus or minus one percent which is 1.5lbs. That means you could be anywhere from 148.5 to 151.1lbs. So are you gonna lie and say that you have no idea how much you weigh since you can't know with infinite accuracy? Of course not. You may not know it down to the exact microgram, but you still know you're pretty close to 150. So yeah, my instrument has some error. But in the video I show how I calibrate for that error by re-doing the exact same test rotated 180 degrees. And I do the test multiple times and with multiple instruments, and the fact that they all give the same reading in the same direction and the same direction as the stars is very significant. Now what evidence do YOU have?

@intothebreak571

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse thanks for spending the time to write all that. Hope you didn’t get too upset. The all caps makes you seem upset. That was my intention to upset you but I honestly didn’t expect to be so triggering. Cheers up

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@intothebreak571 You're welcome! And no, you didn't upset me AT ALL! (lol) I've been talking with flat earthers for over 3 years now and their idiocy is immense. It takes a lot more than your self-embarrassing claim to upset me! Sometimes I use all-caps to convey emphasis on things that should be already understood by anybody who is old enough to operate a computer device. Cheers!

@intothebreak571

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse that’s great don’t get your feelings hurt💪

@fromjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@intothebreak571 Thanks! By the way, if you have the brainzes fer it', I would really enjoy hearing why you say that I debunked myself! - What was it I said and how does it debunk my evidence?

Too bad you affirm your consequent 🤧

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

What country are you from?

@thetreatment

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse That has nothing to do with fallacious logic

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetreatment _>Too bad you affirm your consequent_ I'm trying to figure out what you mean to say. I've only been in America for 42 years and 9 months (haha) but I don't think your sentence is valid. I can't figure out what you're trying to say.

@thetreatment

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromjesse Oh that’s fair enough. Just google logical consistencies and logical fallacies and you’ll find affirming the consequent. The argument formulated is also begging the question, another logical inconsistency. IF p then q. q therefore p. First you assume your outcome, and an effect. You see an effect, and prove your assumption. Example of how it can be used, and be wrong: IF i eat a pizza, i will be full. I am full, therefore i ate a pizza. But i really didn’t eat a pizza i ate a steak and was still full. IF the Earth is rotating, i will see precession. I see precession, therefore the Earth is rotating.

@fromjesse

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetreatment Oh, thank you for explaining. I'd never seen "consequent" used at the end of a sentence. In fact, googling "affirm your consequent" gave 5 unique results (out of 130 trillion pages) - and at least one of them was on a flatearth site, so I guess I don't feel bad for not knowing what you meant. I did look up "affirm the consequent" and there was an explanation of that. So in what way do I commit the fallacy of affirming the consequent? I'm saying that this gyro shows a 15 degree of frame rotation under circumstances that have no known cause other than frame rotation, so this counts as evidence of frame rotation. Right? In your example of eating pizza, it is clearly a fallacy because there are other known ways to satisfy hunger besides eating pizza. In the case of my gyroscope in this video, there are no other known causes to the observed effect. So where's the my fallacy? You however, my friend, have just made the false analogy fallacy! By the way, what's the name of the fallacy where you make an argument that is infinitely unbeatable? For example, let's say I tell you that there is no known cause for the effect I observed in this video. You may counter that there _could_ be some other heretofore undiscovered and currently unknown cause for the observed effect, and therefore my proposed cause cannot be assumed to be the true cause. The problem is that as soon as a "heretofore undiscovered and currently unknown cause" becomes valid evidence against all known and observed causes, then we have lost all reason. We can no longer know, believe, or even suspect anything to be true, and in fact, truth as a category no longer can exist, because no matter how strong observed evidence may be for something, it's always possible that some other unknown undiscovered cause may be the cause instead. What's the name of THAT fallacy, my friend?

BS

@fromjesse

Жыл бұрын

You said...: > _BS_ Thank you for your deep and thought provoking speech. While long winded and highly technical, it did seem to lack punctuation. But I'm not your English teacher so I don't need to go on about that. If you think you can do better, then please show us _your_ videos. (If, that is, you actually performed the experiment as you have claimed in other comments.) Cheers!