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Love this so much! The emotional work i have done (and learning to be in my body and not stuck in my head) has been a massive part of my recovery. I also had to learn who I was and that "I was enough," which I think can be a spiritual process as my knowing that I am "enough" is not due to my intelligence, looks, status, money, relationships that Western society often uses to judge if people are "good enough" but due to a more humanistic, spiritual belief that we are all "enough." I feel so lucky that I came across Dr. Sarno's work fairly early in my recovery, which is based on the notion that these conditions (and other stress illnesses) are from repressed emotions and the brain not feeling safe. Rebecca Tolin', a recent CFS recovery story on this channel, recovered after coming across Dr. Sarno's work and implementing the ideas of somatic work,/somatic tracking, learning to feel emotions and be in the body, and giving the brain messages of safely with self talk, not worrying about symptoms, slowly doing more, etc.

@SongofaBeach2012

2 жыл бұрын

So true! I heard a quote the other day that really resonated with me. It is "Remember, you are a human Being not a human Doing". We all have value just by existing. I'm learning to let go of the goal oriented work work work mindset and just know I'm awesome whether I achieve or not. It's tough but it's part of the growth and healing work that CFS forces me to do.

@calista1280

6 ай бұрын

@evelinel9827, Thank you for eplaining it all so succinctly! I have one of Dr Sarno's books from when I first became ill. But at the time, I wasn't ready for that kind of information. I'm going to get it out and reread it, as it will make more sense to me now! Thank you so much!🤗

@calista1280

6 ай бұрын

Yes, Eckhart Tolle was truly inspirational in my recovery journey, especially when I was deeply depressed and feeling hopeless. Part of it is that he reminds us that we are enough just by being here and as we are. We are here for a reason & each one of us has special gifts to share with the World. 🎁 🌎 To always remember, that We are Human BEINGS not Human DOings. His books 'The Power of NOW!' was extremely helpful in giving me a new mindset, as well as the hopeful 'A New Earth'. Plus, his videos on YT are truly inspirational and CALMING, whenever I've felt stressed or couldn't sleep... 😴 💤

I get into a vicious circle when my symptoms make me feel ill, which makes me feel stressed, which makes me feel ill etc. etc. and it is difficult to break them. Reverse Therapy has helped a lot and I totally get the HPA axis, having experienced trauma myself.

Would love to hear from people who healed using this approach- It's hard to understand how this works in practice. Lots of testimonials of people with brain retraining. Dr. Sarno approach /theory was about stored emotions in body (curable app).

My key perhaps oversimplistic takeaway from this discussion is: Heal the Heart and the Body will follow.

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

Love this 💗

I once tried an experiment to not listen to my gut instinct, to not read the signs by not responding to my emotional intuition… and everything went wrong - life was so much harder. The idea that symptoms are messengers and emotional responses are informing us, seems to me to be so true. In my life, I feel I just need to allow myself to do what I know ‘deep down’ is the right thing and follow the path being signposted. Thanks Raelan for this thought provoking interview… after an event I had today, there is a reason why I saw this and decided to watch it!

@taghazoutmoon5031

Жыл бұрын

How do you know it's your intuition? My feelings have often misguided me. Probably because of chronic stress and disregulation, I'm constantly anxious or depressed. I've made decisions based on feelings that I regret...especially when I thought I was 'following my heart'. My rational decisions are better

Makes perfect sense. The limbic brain is faster than the prefrontal cortex (thinking brain). The limbic brain is like the child. The thinking brain has to be the calming adult.

@lalitaholmesstressfreefast1897

2 жыл бұрын

The limbic brain is triggered by our memories that's why it responds so quickly. We need the memories to to keep us safe.

@Justeet

Жыл бұрын

The thinking brain, prefrontal cortex shuts down when we are triggered and we didn't learn how to self regulate in early childhood, so we dive into trauma vortex without even able to see that we are diving most of the times.

Good interview. What I didn’t hear was how Kyle coaches people to get in touch with their emotions or release their emotions.

Thanks, Raelan and Kyle. I found this particularly interesting as, 15 years ago, I began receiving coaching on Reverse Therapy from a local coach. After a dozen sessions or so I wasn't getting anywhere. The coach was a lovely person and would regularly receive feedback on my case with Dr. Mickel. Eventually, I had to pull the plug as it was just costing me too much and I couldn't afford it. Amazingly, Dr. Mickel took me on for free in spite of an 8 hour time difference and the difficulties of working around that. He tried and tried but we couldn't get anywhere. I think I gave up on him before he did on me. I was deeply touched by Dr. Mickel's generosity and commitment. But, here I am, 15 years later, more disabled than ever and still looking. Kyle, what is different now with this kind of therapy? I believe in the theory but just can't seem to make it work for me.

@dommccaffry3802

2 жыл бұрын

i hope you get a reply barbara, that is a very important question........... guess that' s a no then.

@Star5dg

2 жыл бұрын

Same for my I did mickel therapy did not work at all in the slightest. Helped me set boundaries that wss it

@Justeet

Жыл бұрын

I can only share from my healing experience, many these types of methods didn't work for me at all. The key was that my body was stucked in freeze state all my life and in reality it didn't had a sense how safety feels, how it is to come to ventral vagal ( Steve Porges Polyvagal theory). The things started to change when I met somatic therapist and started learning coregulation and than self regulation. She was almost like mum in the session, gently guiding and being with me and my body sensations. Before that I didn't have enough safety to be with what is happening in my body. Every try would lead me to enormous panic attacks and when going away from my body even more. Now I am studying Polyvagal theory and Oh my, it makes so much sense, why it happened this way for me. My trauma was so early and my nervous system learned to sense danger everythere. With highly dysregulated parents who themselves was almost always in fight or flight, the only they for me to adapt was to go in to freeze and shutdown that I could survive in that environment. So learning how does it feel for the body corregulation and experiencing droo by drop a bit of ventral vagal with safe person, when we learn to self regulate and go into the emotions and feelings and process the past.

He was rambling a lot, but I think what he's hinting at is very real and something that has helped my own recovery. Throughout my life I kind of conditioned myself to ignore negative emotions and so in my recovery I've had to do the opposite sometimes where I sit down to journal about anything negative that might be nagging at me. I also do a deep breath in and an explosive exhale while thinking about those things to let go of them. Those two combined with meditation and getting back to doing things I love has helped me the most

Thank you for this enlightening interview. It wasn't till I addressed my many illnesses from a mind/body/brain/heart approach that I was able to fully recover. To go a little deeper one thing I have learnt and observed now is our emotions are driven by our memories. Our memories are held deep in the subconscious and that is the reason why they are triggered so quickly. If we address the memories using memory reconsolidation processes the unhelpful emotions have less need to trigger us. The nervous system is then more regulated, less need for the flight, fight, freeze, fawn response. I would love to discuss this with Kyle.

Has Kyle suffered with cfs? Great info! He didn't seem to answer your question 'what can people do right now watching this' it wasn't direct or concrete enough

Very helpful ... Thank you Mr. Davies.

Raelan i love that you think about us who is sick and cant take too much in and ask what are the three things we can take away❤

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Anna! 💓💓💓

AMAZING talk. Thankyou Raelan

I love these brain body videos!

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

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I enjoyed listening to this and pushed self to do so .Alot makes sense rings true for me. I might be unsure of some of the last video though cause I never cut out exercise and shut down. I think its important we see all as individuals in what led them to becoming bedridden or less able cause alot of us have other conditions with ME too. Other then that it's all good... Thank you both.

Thank you both. Getting I touch with your emotions is a common thread in lots of recovery approaches and success stories. I watched this today to give me a boost of energy to recommitting to make time to sit with my emotions, journaling and be more mindful about my interactions with others. Really inspiring ;)

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that so much, Stephanie! Thank you ❤️

Yes,thinking and feelings have a lot to do with Fibromyalgia pains. Cognitive behavior therapy might help in Fibromyalgia. ?

The sound is coming and going I think when you move your head away from the microphone, and its slightly to the side.

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback - I'm working on it!

Can Damaged kidneys cause our daily exhaustion fatigue???‽

Hi Raelan. Firstly I'm sorry to bring up this topic. But i just can't seem to break the shackles. I'm a young guy. Before long covid i had a bad habbit of watching po*n. After my Fatigue started i didn’t take it seriously. And that habit didn’t go away. I used to mast**bate. And this is what hindering my progress. I tried to quit it or reduce it so many times but failed as I'm quite addicted. Please raelan Help me! Explain to me why this habit is so destructive for fatigue. And what should i do? A lot of young guys might also have this problem.

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

this is a great question - one I unfortunately don't have an answer too. Perhaps some of our viewers here can share some insight?

@Linda_P

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaelanAgle Hi Raelan and Pranta My understanding of how these things might be connected is… Sometimes we can use addictive behaviours as a coping mechanism to distract us away from our emotional experience and deeper feelings. This means that when we are emotionally triggered, instead of feeling emotion, we feel compulsive instead. It can be helpful to realise that coping behaviour is an attempt to help us in the moment (even if it’s not actually helping overall). And so because it is actually serving a purpose, it might not work to just say to yourself ‘don’t do that behaviour’, without also having a support for what the behaviour is substituting. So instead of just trying to stop what feels compulsive, if we can feel support for what we really need, then the coping behaviours may not be necessary. The way this could connect with fatigue is that, Kyle says in the video above that blocked emotion can create symptoms - including fatigue. Putting this together: we suppress emotion -> do a compulsive behaviour -> feel fatigue

@Justeet

Жыл бұрын

I agree with Linda. It seems that your nervous system doesn't have enough safety to process emotions ans feelings and all addictions is serving the same thing, being it overworking, overeating and etc, - to run away - flight from the unfomfortabily. That doesn't solve the problem itself because those emotions it still stucked in the body ans that leads you into freeze ( fatigued, hopeless, sad, maybe lonely?). Seek support who could teach you how to safely be within your own body and give that beautiful feeling of nurturing, safety, connection. This way you will be able to learn to self regulate and to be present within yourself and what is really happeninf in you. 🙏

@prantasaha1337

Жыл бұрын

@@Justeet You’re right. It took a lot of time to accept my conditions. And that habit is long made. So suddenly i Can't change it. But i know i have to.

@prantasaha1337

Жыл бұрын

@@Linda_P You are right. Give me some tips or advice.

I did his original program he developed with dr mickel - mickel therapy

@dommccaffry3802

2 жыл бұрын

did it work ?

@Star5dg

2 жыл бұрын

@@dommccaffry3802 unfortunately no. Did around ten months of it a session eveey two weeks

@dommccaffry3802

2 жыл бұрын

@@Star5dg me too. i spent 1000 pounds on it. it was so upsetting.

@Star5dg

2 жыл бұрын

@@dommccaffry3802 sorry to hear that. I believe it works for fatigue, tms symptoms like headache, fatigue, exhausted, stomach issues etc mild tms symptoms perhaps

@RaelanAgle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this, Graham. It's so helpful to hear what's working (and what's not0 for people out there!