McIntosh MC30 vintage power amps: Life-changing high-fidelity!

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We are used to look at vintage as something nostalgic, perhaps cheap or simply trendy but in most cases NOT cutting edge. The McIntosh MC30 completely demolishes this preconception. Discover why!
Errata Corrige: I made a mistake. In the video I defined the resistors as bumblebee while instead they are Allen-bradley. Sorry about that!
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  • @anadialog
    @anadialog Жыл бұрын

    Errata Corrige: I made a mistake. In the video I defined the resistors as bumblebee while instead they are Allen-bradley. Sorry about that!

  • @NickP333
    @NickP333 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely stunning amp in design and function. I work at a shop repairing guitars and tube amps (mostly vintage). The owner of the shop won’t even accept SS gear for repair due to the difficulty in tracking down original parts, even though there’s often new tighter tolerance parts and equivalents available today. I just worked on an early 60’s McIntosh MC30 a little over a month ago. It was a joy to refurbish, but you’re always riding that line of trying to keep it as original as possible while upgrading its reliability for years to come. These particular amps had 6L6’s. Most of the tubes, even the power tubes, still tested remarkably well, and the preamp/ driver tubes were mostly able to be left in. I could keep going on, but will spare you. McIntosh amps used to be built to last a lifetime, where so many things today are considered disposable, even by design. Thanks, Guido. Fantastic video 👍🔊😊🎶

  • @pervertedalchemist9944
    @pervertedalchemist9944 Жыл бұрын

    It's a testament to the quality of McIntosh when their older amps can hold a candle to their newer models.

  • @audioupgrades

    @audioupgrades

    Жыл бұрын

    In general, component quality and manufacturing standards have been dropping for the last 20 years, so it's more or less standard that older hifi is better.

  • @Gez492

    @Gez492

    Жыл бұрын

    @audioupgrades I also think that Mackintosh have been a bit preoccupied by power and specs and forgot to listen before they build.

  • @Steve-rz7hm
    @Steve-rz7hm27 күн бұрын

    Just like the comment from another person who sees the joy in your face. I also see and feel the excitement and enthusiasm when you talk about the discovery of McIntosh Mono block tube amplifiers. Coincidently I went through the same journey as you. I was into SS gear at first and when I accidently heard McIntosh tube amplifier in a audio outlet driving a pair of bookshelf speakers which was playing music not in properly set-up room I knew for certain that is the sound I was looking for. I then got a vintage McIntosh MC240 driving a vintage LS3/5A bookshelf speakers. After a while I got my second MC240, bridged it and used as a pair of monoblock in my set-up. I also did a lot of tube rolling with vintage tubes in the process and have imo got a sound which I feel and sound fantastic to me. Meanwhile I also got another pair of LS3/5As that I stacked on top with the MC240 mono block driving them. I must say with every addition I made there was a significant improvements in every level. Ever since I got my first vintage tube amp I went almost everything to vintage and sold all my SS gear and have never looked back. Even the two pairs of LS3/5As was gradually replaced from a later ones (also vintage) to the very early ones. Same goes with the turntable where I sold off the modern ones to vintage turntable.....

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    27 күн бұрын

    Bravo!👏🏻 Thanks for sharing that!

  • @davidrivera2165
    @davidrivera2165 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for enlightening your viewers as to the reason McIntosh garnered a reputation in the 50' and 60's that still sustains them today.

  • @johne5543
    @johne5543 Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how, back in the day, engineers really did try to make the absolute BEST equipment, and marketing considerations had minimal influence. Equipment was built to basically last forever. Unlike today, where products are geared to only last so long, and then you have to buy a new one. And, of course, prices only go up, not down.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen!

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper Жыл бұрын

    In USA there were great HQ KIT amps called Allied Radio KNIGHT-kit type KB85 they have 4 EL37 tubes and be switched to mono! So you can double tze power from 35 W stereo to over 60 Watt Mono if you find a nice pair. They are at least as good as the smaller Macintoshs but cost 1/10. Pretty nice heavy acrosound transformers used there too.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @karolyfreyler5716
    @karolyfreyler5716 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy following you on the journey of building the perfect system. It would be really interesting to have a video about the various full systems you built around these equipments. Like you mentioned now, that the Shindo is better with the Macs, etc... I would like to learn more about pass vs lux vs accu vs mac vs primaluna

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point. I am taking notes!

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 Жыл бұрын

    My mentor as a radio producer had a pair of McIntoshes from the 60’s or 70’s (this was early 80’s) and a turntable on pins, on a concrete slab. I forget the speakers, but there was a major difference from everyone else’s stereo.

  • @larsman9169
    @larsman9169 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid! I use a tube preamp with a SS power amp, and that combination works great. Also, 'Bugle' is not pronounced 'buggel' - it is pronounced 'byoo-gul' - it's a trumpet kind of instrument often used by the military for wake-up calls, etc. A 'Bugle-Boy' would be the one who is designated to play it.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🙈 oh no! Thank you for pointing that out. These details give off my true Italian nature. Sorry about that!

  • @shanestephenson8423
    @shanestephenson8423 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! l can see the joy in your face. I'm so pleased for you to have found these amplifiers.🎧👌😁

  • @johnstone7697
    @johnstone7697 Жыл бұрын

    I bought a pair of used MC30's back in the early 1970s for $150. Like all used tube gear back in those days, they were considered old fashioned and obsolete. Everybody was looking for higher power and they didn't want the clutter of all those components...preferring instead... a nice shinyJapanese receiver with lots of watts. These amps were on the used shelf at the Musicraft store in Morton Grove, Illinois. Took them to the McIntosh clinic where Dave O'Brian put a few new tubes in them for free. They put out about 40 watts a channel. I kept them for a long time until I moved on to more potent solid state gear. They had a "pleasant, laid back sound, with bass that could be described as a bit "loose". But certainly they were very acceptable, given the sources and speakers of the day. My guess is they're still out there playing away, to the delight of their owner.

  • @robertyoung1777
    @robertyoung177711 ай бұрын

    A truly beautiful amp. Thank you for sharing!

  • @GiguereSylvain
    @GiguereSylvain Жыл бұрын

    After exploring years of SState equipment.. and tubes too, like Audio Research D70 Audionote kit one, some CJohnson (that I liked but sold, I came back to something vibrant and that I love: class A Quad II tube monoblocs + Counterpoint Sa1 tube preamp and efficient speakers. The music and the magic is back.. and I wont do the mistake of selling my vintage tube gear (Marantz 8B & 7C) again. Did I regret it.. The cost of my new-old gear is nothing, compared to the cost to these nice modern Moon, Pass, and the likes.. long life to well maintained vintage equipment. P.s. audio equipment from the 50's, 60's, 70's were engineered not 'only' using 'measurements, but intensive listening, comparison with real life performance.. it gave something different than shoe box sized speakers..lol but that's another subject. Thanks from Québec city. Sylvain Qc

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @elderinmoi1571
    @elderinmoi1571 Жыл бұрын

    Synergy is key once again 😀. Well made tube amps just have something going for them that no other type of amps do. No wonder you find them more often now on exhibitions / audio shows. If you want to expand further I recommend Audiovalve pre and monos. Sadfully service is now unobtainable (from the company themselves) but you might find them at a good price. Best amps I ever heard. I run the Audiovalve solaris as pre because you can and it sounds awesome (and you have a world class headphone amp at your disposal as well). The dac in this thing is also great if you get the Solaris with dac. But anyway- congrats for your latest addition to the kit. Tube amps rule 😅

  • @bobb.9917
    @bobb.9917 Жыл бұрын

    REALLY enjoyed this. I currently am listening to a modern McIntosh MC152 SS Power Amp driven by a Schiit Freya+ PreAmp (running on NOS RCA tubes), that I myself replaced all the cheap capacitors and resistors in the tube stage with audiophile grade replacements which alone cost me 50% of the cost of the preamp. In learning and growing I had two very recommended high-powered SS mono blocs that left me empty and wanting. Watching your video gives me more joy in my choice to go with an older-name power amp (with its beautiful meters) over all the hyped newer names and yes, even The Pass Labs. I just love the sound of my system and I wish that I could hear the magic of your vintage amps to sharpen my listening skills and learn even more about music playback. Great Video, Guido! 👍🏼😀

  • @analoguecity3454
    @analoguecity3454 Жыл бұрын

    Audio equipment last a really long time! Trust me , ive kept a couple! Its just comes down to proper storage! With proper storage, even belts can last!

  • @analoguecity3454

    @analoguecity3454

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm speaking audio equipment in general of course, hence belts!😅

  • @robertyoung1777

    @robertyoung1777

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes - It’s important to keep equipment in a climate controlled environment where temperature and humidity are correct and constant - just like a museum keeps works of art. No - not joking.

  • @AudioElectronicsChicago
    @AudioElectronicsChicago Жыл бұрын

    such a good looking and sounding amp 👍🏻

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 Жыл бұрын

    Good to hear you tell the truth !

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Frank. Yes, I always try to be as honest as possible. That is I would like when watching someone's channel.

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 Жыл бұрын

    As a very passionated designer once said : " ............IT'S ALL ABOUT BRINGING BACK THE BREATH OF LIFE BACK TO THE MUSIC....! "

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @mounirehab
    @mounirehab Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your advice about the original resistors ...

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 Жыл бұрын

    You are not alone sharing this kind of experience.............I remember being suffering from digitalitis ever since the CD replaced analog ...........I needed my old MC 240 to be able to loisten to CD's............with the right tubes this kind of amplifiers shines and buries the majority of tuybe amplifiers of today even the most expensice and impressive .......but to connect to the spirit of mauic one needs more than high end performance and impressive sounding HIFI..........a components must make MUSIC .....and it ends there when it works ! .........Even it is rare ......

  • @AdiMaco
    @AdiMaco Жыл бұрын

    You finally understand what musical sound means and what's up with the tubes.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    The Shindo and Mastersound had already blew my mind up and here is the confirmation!

  • @sidesup8286
    @sidesup8286 Жыл бұрын

    It might be possible that tubes are simply the best device for amplifying audio. We wouldn't want tube TV's or computers, but for amplifying audio it might be the best device to use. There are different variations of transistors; Bipolar, Mosfet, J fet, and V fet. Some of these types aren't even made with audio applications in mind. J Fets for instance are made for and primarily used for solar heating panels. That they work and work well in audio circuits is a fortunate coincidence. I have never heard anyone say anything bad about Accuphase, except that it's expensive. They used to use bipolar transistors, the least sweet of the ones listed. I do not follow what they use now. But if as you say, if the McIntosh beats it that bad, you must have some amp there! Of the vintage tube preamps, Citation was probably the most impressive. The McIntosh preamp, not sure of the model, but it might have been the C 22, is alleged to be a copy of the Marantz model 7 preamp; a vintage legend. The only difference some say on the forums is the bumble bee resistors in the Marantz. I heard the Marantz for about 3 evenings with its accompanying tube power amp, and it was impressive in many ways. Just when you thought you had it pegged as a little dark sounding, something like a triangle with full overtones intact would make you doubt your perception. You mentioned it kicked the PASS amps a**. Also impressive. I have heard only a rare person not pleased with their Pass equipment and a less rare amount of people disappointed with their Prima Luna equipment, which you also mentioned it beat. I guess one of the Battle Of The Titans as far as vintage tube power amps, would be the McIntosh MC30 monos versus the Marantz model 9 monos. You could sell tickets for that one. The Marantz 9 is a little darker than it's sibling, the Marantz 8B. More people by far, use tube preamps with solid state power amps than solid state preamps with tube power amps. I have heard demonstrations where using all tube for both resulted in a too soft polite sound. Avoiding darkness with tube amps is as important as avoiding brightness with solid state gear. Maybe the missing link is the V Fet, which is the only transistor I have ever heard, which does not sound like a transistor at all. It somehow eludes that electronic sound signature that transistors seem to have. Not many V Fet amps are being made anymore because of how rare and expensive they are. There is a PASS amp that uses 2 V Fets in it's circuit. Nothing like the heydey of V Fets when amps like the Sony TAN 8000 series, like the TAN8550, which used no less than 38 V Fets inside it. They have the sweetness of tubes with much lower distortion. Of course non irritating even order harmonic distortion is one of the things that make people like tube sound. It asserts that music reproduction is all an illusion, not a spec sheet excercise.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. Thanks for sharing!

  • @batmandestroys1978
    @batmandestroys19785 ай бұрын

    1954 this was made! 30 Watts! Which is very impressive specs! Separates in 1955, when most people bought consoles, which were big with maximum watts 8 to 12 watts.

  • @vincentseaman591
    @vincentseaman591 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you the Mc30 are great sounding. If you are interested in vintage low wattage amps look into the Harmon kardon citation 40. As always it’s about the sound to ones ears.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed the H&K are on my list!

  • @bubblehead5394
    @bubblehead5394 Жыл бұрын

    The rubber bands on the tubes increase fidelity and accuracy by 52%.

  • @richclips

    @richclips

    Жыл бұрын

    53.8% actually 🤪

  • @don7680

    @don7680

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, they decrease microphonics with the tubes.

  • @richclips

    @richclips

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@traviswilke6051 clearly I was being tongue-in-cheek with my 53.8%, sorry about that. I agree if a vacuum tube has become microphonic it needs replacing, however consider the effect of mechanical vibrations on the vacuum tube when elements have become loose and it's become microphonic, it's surely therefore ok to fit bands in an attempt to damp mechanical vibrations a little in the first place. Most of the small signal valves are by nature microphonic especially when a gain is pushed. But again, yes I totally agree, if a valve/tube has become microphonic, replace it.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    They were already there so might as well use them. Tried without but didn't hear much of a change.

  • @richclips

    @richclips

    Жыл бұрын

    @@traviswilke6051 very true :)

  • @Gez492
    @Gez492 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another enjoyable VLog. I am not surprised that you feel the way you do although I can't say I'm a Macintosh sound fan, at least their modern over the top approach, their sound has changed from the Amps you are enjoying. However, I am always amazed why so many so called reviewers seem to fawn over these hugely expensive solid state designs. To me they mostly sound artificial and sterile concentrating on efficiency, power or hyper low distortion etc, instead of how they reproduce recorded music. I had and still have a solid state pre and power, which when new cost the thick end of £10k. I thought this package was great until I was totally blown away by a stereo power amp from the now extinct British Vacuum Tub Amplifier company Grant Lumley. It completely 360'd my approach to ever more powerful and complex solid state electronics. I had to have one and I completely restored its stunning point to point internals with Caps from Audionote in the UK and Audyn Silver Reference form Germany as well as huge filer caps from Nichicon Japan. I didn't disturb the hi end resistors and hand wound English made Transformers could power a grid power station such was their size and weight unless you do something bad to the amp they will never need replacing. I used Golden lion Power tubes and a combination of RCA and Mullard NOS for the various other stages. . It is completely silent in operation my big floor standing Proacs are 90dB efficient between rated 8ohm and this amp is driven with a Tim De Pavaracini designed EAR Yoshino 912 all tube pre amp. The combination is totally transformative. Its detailed but sweet and expansive, it has coherent powerful textured bass and a truly ethereal mid range. I have heard and tried a number of solid state so called exotica and I can honestly say they just cannot compare to the performance of the Lumley Reference in combination with the EAR tube pre. The rebuild of the Lumley cost me around 650 GBP and the amp cost me a miserly 1100GBP but I saw an article written in the US, where a builder said to construct an amplifier of this quality from scratch, now would be in the region of 10-12k GBP. Yes it's a two man lift but oh my, it has wrecked me for most any solid state listening. I am a vacuum tube guy now and I have never enjoyed my music collection so much. I listen to a TT and CD and occasional streaming. I can truly understand how you feel about tubes and the total immersion they can help you feel . I wont close my mind completely;y to solid state electronics but I will never give up my Vacuum tube amps either. Thanks for sharing your Mackintosh experience. I hope I haven't rambled on too much.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience and for your reccomendations...you got me quite interested there! ;-)

  • @Gez492

    @Gez492

    Жыл бұрын

    @anadialog That's nice of you to say, though you have been doing the same for me and many here for a long time now.

  • @neps4th
    @neps4th Жыл бұрын

    My favorite tube amp is a GTA SE40. It uses 3 paralleled output 3 tubes per channel. It's single-ended circuit can be operated in triode or ultralinear mode. Easily out-performs my 300B amp.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice!!

  • @1999zrx1100
    @1999zrx1100 Жыл бұрын

    You never mentioned the Luxman 590axII you were so in love with. I guess vintage tube gear is cool but for every day listening, who wants the hassle and issues associated with old gear…. Not me. Thanks 🙏

  • @dimitrismanolakos8967
    @dimitrismanolakos8967 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the review. I recommend the great Radford st25. You will be amazed.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank YOU!

  • @PetraKann
    @PetraKann Жыл бұрын

    You can change the resistors without a perceptible change in the amplifier characteristics. You dont need Bumble Bee resistors.

  • @TheSoundrookie
    @TheSoundrookie Жыл бұрын

    Hi Guido. The word of the day is "soul", and you sure got it with those babies. The question of the day is "Do you feel that you ever will be needing other amplifiers"? Stay cool and awesome Mate.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    I am sure that for curiosity I will explore more but with these I really do feel satisfied

  • @Karmakatt6
    @Karmakatt6 Жыл бұрын

    Long live The Grateful Dead ❤

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper Жыл бұрын

    You might try french made FILSON 1960s (type JF100 monoblocks with 4 EL34 tubes per amp!) and JC Verdier (1970s and 1980s ) High End tube gear that is similar good! (French supertransformer factory STS Millerioux made the HQ transformers!) In France there was a professional High End studio- and discothece tube amp manufacturer called DECOMA Paris (Celino Sanchez was the engineer behind it and JBL France stood behind it they also used the fantastic french STS Millerioux transformers) I have a pair of 75W Monoblocks with dual KT88 tubes inside these things came from a late 1960s disco club in Marseilles and they have unbelievable power and deepness of sound!)

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Thanks for sharing that!

  • @albertorobinson7611
    @albertorobinson7611 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible way to set you back with 300 dolors buge boys

  • @sammencia7945
    @sammencia7945 Жыл бұрын

    The key, the "secret" to monoblock amps like this are those two massive, handwound transformers. Four per pair. They can never be replaced. They were made from 1954 to 1962 at the peak of American manufacturing, education, and engineering. That is where vintage gear gets the special sound. I have 10 vintage transistor amps from 68 to 71 that all sound great. These can never be bettered because we cannot make those transformers at that quality level.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    True but then again we have amazing OTL amps!

  • @guyboisvert66

    @guyboisvert66

    5 ай бұрын

    Totally disagree about engineering and manufacturing, we're passed that and today's engineering is on a higher level that's for sure... Engineering is science, and like any other science, it evolves with time. We have much better components available, better tools, etc. By the way, no need for transformers with transistors... The latest class D amps from Hypex / Purifi are really of on higher fidelity level we couldn't achieve before. So at this level of fidelity, if you don't like the sound, look somewhere else... Or maybe you like harmonic distortion / colored sound on top of low-fi recordings. The personal preference and not debatable.

  • @elavationchild
    @elavationchild7 ай бұрын

    BEST MAC ever made - MC 30!

  • @zacharydoering313
    @zacharydoering313 Жыл бұрын

    Don’t know if you have looked at the open chassis pic a lot, but some of the caps are audience auracaps, I have often wondered if a vintage amp could be made more solid and stiffer power delivery with amazing midrange with those, also if you are are looking for a good 6L6 variant try 7581A tubes they have 5 extra watts per tube, the reissue Tung Sol are amazing too.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @pixym
    @pixym Жыл бұрын

    Hello. Thank for this very informative video 🙂. I have watched a bunch of your videos and I have something to tell you to visually improve them in the future : Just disable autofocus of your camera ! Before press the start button, adjust manually the focus on the device you want us to see. Right now, the autofocus try to make the focal point on your hand or on your amplifier and this is not very pleasant to see. If you have to show some pieces as you did in this video @17:38, place this pieces in the same focus plan of the device at the right or the left side (the side depends on the used hand)… Just my two cents. Great introduction as always BTW. Best regards and keep up the good Ana [Dia] Log work !

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. If you notice I did that in the part of the inputs and outputs. I recently change camera so I had to start over all again.

  • Жыл бұрын

    These resistors are not of "Bumble-Bee" type. They are of "Allen-Bradley" type. Bumble-Bee resistors have a black body and rounded ends. Just google to see them. Thanks.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Ops! Sorry about that. Thanks for pointing that out. I will add an errata corrige at the top. Thanks again!

  • @latheofheaven
    @latheofheaven Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating subject Bro! But, I'm a bit puzzled why you right at the first said that 30+ watts of TUBE power is so little...? There are numerous tube amps today, not the least are the VERY low wattage Decware amps that can drive systems pretty well with only 8 - 12 wpc. Granted, THAT is indeed low, but 30+ watts of Class 'A' Tube power...? Pure Analog Engagement! 👍 When I got my first tube integrated amp ever after 40 years of pretending to be an Audiophile, the Ayon Orion II all tube Class 'A' 60wpc, yep, or course proportionately, that's what I felt... If this was your first serious vintage tube experience, I can imagine how blown away you were, even compared to your very expensive, fancy $10,000 - $15,000 stuff 😁

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    You're right, I meant in comparison with today's amps it's not that powerful but it absolutely is if we think it's not using any parallel configuration and those muscle tubus like the 300B and 845 that IMO give a poorer sound.

  • @jorgjanssen9973
    @jorgjanssen9973 Жыл бұрын

    I always see the Philips N 4520 in your videos. I also have this tape recorder. can you make a video about it? That would be very interesting, since this device is not so well known to many. many greetings from northern Germany.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed. I have been pushing that ahead. The baby needs servicing but after that I will certainly do. In any case if you haven't already seen it in action here I am using quite enough: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6KJyqmjk8Krops.html&feature=share9

  • @MarArraes
    @MarArraes Жыл бұрын

    Lindo aparelho! No Brasil os valores são bem conservadores podendo um par chegar a custar até $5800. Os apresente atuando! A linha de áudio dos Mclabs são espetaculares.

  • @jeffpine8832
    @jeffpine8832 Жыл бұрын

    Wbt spade end connector would probably fit they're available in different widths.

  • @kruzerken
    @kruzerken10 ай бұрын

    Interesting video, Thanks! How does the Mc30 compare to let’s say a more recent mc275?

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    10 ай бұрын

    I haven't tested that but it's another world. Consider that these are point-to-point soldering, no PCBs, incredible quality!

  • @offrande1148
    @offrande1148 Жыл бұрын

    Can you kindly itemize your current (most recent) playback chain?

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure: kuzma stabi R + 4point 9 tonearm turntable with kuzma isolation platform and kiseki purple heart or pure fidelity Stratos carts, Auditorium 23 hommage step-up transformer, Audia Flight FL phono preamp, Ayon CD 35 mark II with T+A DAC 200 for digital, Studer A810, Telefunken M15, Philips N4520 for r2r tape, Technics Rsb100, Dual c-844, Nakamichi Dragon and Zx-9, Revox B215, Pioneer c-95 etc for cassettes, Mastersound Spettro and Shindo Masseto preamplifiers, Accuphase a48 and Mastersound 845 monoblocks and the MC30s for amplification. Golden ear triton reference speakers and another vintage electrostatic speaker that I still have to present on the channel. Cables are all occ copper or occ silver with power conditioners by black noise and basic room treatment since the acoustics are already excellent.

  • @philb-ze8sz
    @philb-ze8sz Жыл бұрын

    You learning what we older folks have known for years, new gear is lifeless, play a CD on a good player and take a listen, you will be shocked, and how quality amp/preamps that were designed around bring music to your home to life. A pair of Dynaco stereo 70's music-wise would blow away the gear of today, not spec-wise but music enjoyment wise no matter the format. But then it depends on what you are used to hearing. Like many speakers today all highs and bass, but no musicality to them, sterile sounding. But lots of detail like turning up the treble on a receiver. Like we used to say you got crap for ears because you never trained them to know real from hi-fi.

  • @word2RG
    @word2RG Жыл бұрын

    these are special products. if you enjoy this presentation, not much will do better. later, when you want more resolution, try a harman kardon citation.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @schlichter11
    @schlichter11 Жыл бұрын

    Vintage rules

  • @DirtTapes
    @DirtTapes Жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @gerbenkolkman
    @gerbenkolkman Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Well, I have the Mastersound 845, so. I know where to be heading, one day.😊

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    I forgot to say that I the old version of the 845. So I can't speak for the new ones.

  • @gerbenkolkman

    @gerbenkolkman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anadialog, mine is from 2007. Do you consider this old or new? 😉

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gerbenkolkman the chassis changed. Are your long or wide? I think long like mine!

  • @gerbenkolkman

    @gerbenkolkman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anadialogYes, the chassis is long. I do not have two mono blocks. I have the integrated amplier Mastersound 845. Surely not as great as the two vintage MacIntosh mono blocks but I am super happy with the sound, nevertheless. I only got into vinyl or hifi - thanks to your video's for the greater part I guess - about barely two years ago. The guy I bought my 845 from did an upgrade on the tubes and was kind enough to leave it like that. It was already such a huge improvement. Especially the bass, I had some trouble with resonance on the bass before. And want to specifically thank you for your video on setting up a turntable. That helped me so much with a lot of questions and doubts that I had especially on setting up the cartridge.

  • @richclips
    @richclips Жыл бұрын

    So what was the total cost for these including all the tube rolling? I bought an Audio Research VS-60, boxed like new, and its stunning, cost a little over 1000€ about 4 years ago, it was 4000€ new about 12 years ago. Highly recommended.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Good question. €3400 plus around €1000 on tubes. The Telefunken are extremely expensive.

  • @LuxAudio389
    @LuxAudio3898 ай бұрын

    How did you solve the power conversion to 120v 60Hz?

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    8 ай бұрын

    Good question. I am currently preparing a video on the topic of step-up/down transformers for the near future

  • @robertyoung1777
    @robertyoung177711 ай бұрын

    I sure hope contemporary manufacturing can make great amplification or we’re out of luck in the long run.

  • @guyboisvert66

    @guyboisvert66

    5 ай бұрын

    We're passed that since a long time... Current amplifiers are by far higher fidelity than that. Sure, you can prefer a signal colored with harmonic distortion, we can't debate personal preferences. And sometimes yes, those amps are acting like a "smoothing filter" for badly matched sound systems / bad room / poor recordings.

  • @cybermau
    @cybermau6 ай бұрын

    after selling my unison s8 and my transrotor turntable i am looking for a replacement... one of my youthful desires (the others are my two red motorbikes) is to have Mcintosh electronics... driving my old Tannoy Cheviots. a wish list would be to have two mc75 monoblocks. driven (yes I know it's heresy) by a quality external DAC.... or a Mc275 with C22... let's see....

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    6 ай бұрын

    Go as low as your speakers allow you. Less power just results in a more refined output.

  • @cybermau

    @cybermau

    5 ай бұрын

    @@anadialog Hi! looks like maybe I managed to buy two MC275 MkVI (they are used not new..) that I would use as monoblocks, controlled by the Audioloab MDAC+ ..... we'll seeeeeee

  • @WS-gs6sf
    @WS-gs6sf Жыл бұрын

    Sure, maybe it sounds nice, but the tubes aren't glowing green.

  • @atpirc
    @atpirc Жыл бұрын

    by chance have you heard of or even better, heard them play, the amplifiers of the melody hifi?!? Australian company that produces only tube amplifiers in China. I bought one and for my taste it sounds really good as well as having a build quality of a much higher level than that of the classic Chinese ones. I would say at least on the same level as fezz audio or the Italian synthesis, just to name a couple. the price list is in fact for a top-level amp, the entry levels start at around €1600. however, I find it strange that no info can be found on the net, only a small review and a few videos. outside of australia and china they are total strangers. on the other hand, the manufacturer in an absolutely inexplicable way does not respond to emails ... I asked for info on bias adjustment but nothing, 4 emails 0 replies!

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't! Thanks for putting them on my radar

  • @stoicar
    @stoicar9 ай бұрын

    You can get an audiogd master 2 A/H ?

  • @spacemissing
    @spacemissing Жыл бұрын

    Why do you say "buggle boy"? It should be "beeoogle boy". I happen to own a couple of apparently as-yet-unused Amperex 12AX7s that I will Never part with. I'm glad you are having fun with some good old-fashioned equipment.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Because I am Italian! Sorry about that. I mispronounce several words.

  • @01sapphireGTS
    @01sapphireGTS Жыл бұрын

    ANA[DIA]LOG: Great post. You failed to mention that most people "rate" tube-watts equal to about 2X solid-state-watts. (30W tube amp = 60-65W solid state.)

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, that gets you in the endless argument of a watt is a watt. But indeed tube gain is different from ss.

  • @guyboisvert66

    @guyboisvert66

    5 ай бұрын

    ...because it distorts differently: add even harmonics whereas for transistors, it's odd harmonics. Tube amps already distort at low level so if you like that, crank it more and it only will distort more on the same way. But a well designed transistor amp will offer much higher fidelity to the signal when operating in its linear range.

  • @villageroma
    @villageroma7 ай бұрын

    Class A amp with a non negative feedback circuit sound way better.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    7 ай бұрын

    Been there (Pass labs, Luxman, Accuphase, Hegel etc.)...not even close! I would love to have a tubeless world but in the end, when you truly experiment and perfectly match you understand that they tube design is clearly superior...with all their faults and negative aspects, just like analog is more engaging than digital.

  • @villageroma

    @villageroma

    7 ай бұрын

    @@anadialog I was talking about tubes amps. 👍

  • @hoobsgroove
    @hoobsgroove Жыл бұрын

    A better power amplifier is a Leak TL 12 a lot of them I heard went to Italy, hard to find a good set. but you want to listen in mono not stereo even with two amplifiers. Get away from sound entering from the sides but projected from the middle is the proper way how you would listen to music. Iif done correctly you can have a good sound stage not just from the back but to the sides.

  • @sampahtetapsam21
    @sampahtetapsam2111 ай бұрын

    If u get c22 mk i Pair with it It will b superb

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    11 ай бұрын

    I do think about doing that often! But I also have a shindo masseto and I don't think it would be better...but maybe one day at the right price...I love to test this stuff!

  • @sampahtetapsam21

    @sampahtetapsam21

    11 ай бұрын

    @@anadialog shindo have to be pair with shindo Just like audio note But still d best combo mac c22 with mc240

  • @hamidrezahabibi8111
    @hamidrezahabibi8111 Жыл бұрын

    Tubes color the music 🎵 reproduction but it’s educational to listen 👂 to tube audio gears ⚙️ when they’re done ✅ right.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    After all these years I have understood that neutrality is not my road at least what they call neutral. I like color.

  • @hamidrezahabibi8111

    @hamidrezahabibi8111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anadialog I like it too to a certain degree but I totally 💯 understand what you mean. Congratulations 🍾🎊🎉🎈 on your channel’s 6th anniversary 🫵💎

  • @AdiMaco
    @AdiMaco4 ай бұрын

    What Shindo pre? Thanks!

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    4 ай бұрын

    Masseto, here is the video I made: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6iLsM6Fpqmrk84.htmlsi=rSj0DGNWTOxHKoDY

  • @alexkorff6479
    @alexkorff6479 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the emotional review... I'm not a fan of Mсintosh, moreover, I think their products are too overpriced, and it's obvious that they exploit the popularity of the past years by inflating the price, but you spoke about this amplifier so enthusiastically and emotionally that I even liked it, although... if the sound is so good, so incredible, then what's the point, why they continuing to release something new if they did the thing with perfect sound in 1958? my opinion, it means that not everything with sound is perfect there, if the Mсintosh themselves forgot about the MC30 and release something else, because, as we know, from one perfection do not looking for another perfection, you may have heard a really charming sound, but I don’t think this sound is the best of the best... in any case, I wish to all audio lovers the same lively emotions, great sound, and peace in the world...

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your words. The answer is, more power. That is why, but unfortunately we all forget how tube systems with just a few watts can sound. Most products today are overengineered and power-hungry.

  • @alexkorff6479

    @alexkorff6479

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@anadialog I haven't forgotten what tube amps sound like because one of my favorite amps I use is the iconic Unison Research S2.

  • @asadabbasmirza9519
    @asadabbasmirza95193 ай бұрын

    Forgetting the output transformers ,a v special design.

  • @ford1546
    @ford1546 Жыл бұрын

    What are we trying to achieve with a hi-fi. high end system? Have the sound quality your ears want or try to recreate the music as unchanged as possible? For example, try to get the same sounds as you heard at the concert. If it is the last mentioned that you are trying to achieve, both tube amplifiers and LP records are something that color the sound.

  • @TheSoundrookie

    @TheSoundrookie

    Жыл бұрын

    Since music gets colored all the way through the chain from the second it hits the mic, and perfection doesn't exist no matter how much money you sink into it, I'll say go for the soul. What is the theoretically most perfect sound worth, if you get tired listening to it? Go for what carries you away and makes the hairs on your arms rise.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, first of all we are trying to achieve fidelity to the recording. That is what hi-fi is. Then, I am personally looking for emotion and engagement, NOT perfection and neutrality. I like and i want color.

  • @TheSoundrookie

    @TheSoundrookie

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anadialog The perfect way to put it.

  • @ammej768
    @ammej768 Жыл бұрын

    Since they're so amazing, why can't you have a modern copy . Many people are building tube amps or buying them from China?

  • @stevenburdick424
    @stevenburdick4246 ай бұрын

    I thought you like the TA. Integrated

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    6 ай бұрын

    That is a DAC (if you are talking of the T+A), this is an amp.

  • @stackoverflow8260
    @stackoverflow8260 Жыл бұрын

    Rectifiers are important? No? If you don't have proper rectification then the 50/60hz hum might leak into the amp

  • @spacemissing

    @spacemissing

    Жыл бұрын

    In the case of a heater-cathode rectifier, of course you don't want any contact between those two elements. However, in the case of a filament rectifier like the 5U4, they are one and the same, so...

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt4 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, modern McIntosh amps sound nothing like their vintage amps like the MC30.

  • @jamesrobinson9176
    @jamesrobinson91764 ай бұрын

    With tubes, $4k would be fine. If the economy wasn't absolutely broken

  • @DrBroncanuus
    @DrBroncanuus Жыл бұрын

    you are one of the few hifi channels who gives McIntosh rave reviews....OCD Mikey channel and others have said the MAC amps use obsolete, old tech, with no innovation...giving a highly colored MAC sound...and McIntosh is not true high end.

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, we are talking about gear of over 65 years of age so I or others can't associate it to their modern equipment

  • @guyboisvert66
    @guyboisvert665 ай бұрын

    Probably fine for people who like harmonic distortion and colored sound, then sure yes but "high fidelity" it isn't. From an engineering point of view, looking inside is depressing!

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    5 ай бұрын

    I perfectly understand your point of view because many years ago I started from that, meaning solid state perfect designs. The sound though was always so so…finally I started to explore with my hears tubes and the quality of the reproduction is just skyrocketing high. One of the reasons is also the simplicity of the design. Unfortunately, as I always say, measurements and specs indicate only quantity NOT quality. You can infer quality with quantity but so much is left out that it is obvious when you hear these vintage machines.

  • @guyboisvert66

    @guyboisvert66

    5 ай бұрын

    @@anadialog Your use of the word "quality" in your view means "preference". Quality for an engineer who design components means as linear as possible, as low distortion as possible, etc. High Fidelity means just that, as close as possible to the incoming signal. And using a tube amp will certainly "smooth out" many of those bad recordings that flood the market! My point being, understand all of this and keep it in mind when you buy any audio component. Understand that all the components in the chain add its own transfer function on top of each others until it reaches your ears!

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    5 ай бұрын

    I went a little more far into this here and you will understand that it is not only preference: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIGa1Jp7d5aZZdo.htmlsi=F3uDFXSBPwBmvNVY

  • @joeyjustin6895
    @joeyjustin6895 Жыл бұрын

    22:00. Please. I'm promoting your videos to 2m PEOPLE. Please. Run some water through your NOSE. Before making. You literally sounds like you holding your fingers over your nose

  • @anadialog

    @anadialog

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry about that. I have a bad dust allergy which is constantly making me sniff, itch and a runny nose!

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