And the winner is..... Liam Lawson

@matthewmcgrath8886

3 ай бұрын

If Max goes then they need to put Dan in the car and Liam in Dan's car. Otherwise I think both drivers are gone. And good luck finding more as why would people go there if they are just gonna be lied to and held onto with false promises

@davidvasquez08

3 ай бұрын

@@matthewmcgrath8886Ric isn’t showing that rn, I’ll put Yuki if he can overcome his anger issues, is not get Sainz or Alonso. What the heck, take a shot with Lawson

@ammarisrar2005

3 ай бұрын

@@davidvasquez08it’s been only 2 races, if DR does continue to be lacking, sure, but as of now, we can say nothing about if DR is RB ready or not

@davidvasquez08

3 ай бұрын

@@ammarisrar2005 unless team orders come into play, Ric by himself is done

@d4nkdesu

3 ай бұрын

​@@davidvasquez08Sainz seems the most logical option with maybe Albon or Gasly being given a second chance. Sainz and Alonso Spanish duo in a red bull would be a dream.

Meanwhile the Media is obcessed with the Mexican telenovela, with the lover trio Horner, Marko and Jos. The real power grab is between Red Bull Thai versus Red Bull Austria.

@y_fam_goeglyd

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Read the BBC F1 news and that has been made clear, along with things like Max's statement (fair enough, they just reported his words).

@Mr.deBest

3 ай бұрын

@@y_fam_goeglyd Yeah you need to make something up writing about Max winning in the UK does not sell papers

@GTdriver81

3 ай бұрын

And 51% controlling share says RB Austria can suck some lemons 🍋 🍋🍋 lots of them.

@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter

3 ай бұрын

Horner mark and jos are public figurehead of either side

@jeffsteyn7174

3 ай бұрын

Oh no buddy. The controversy is the married horner having an affair with his subordinate. That's not on marko or jos. Horner is still there but the subordinate has been suspended. Also from what's coming out the power grab is also from horners side. So lets not turn horner into the victim

The funny thing about all of this It doesn't make The RB20 any slower.

@1255XL

3 ай бұрын

Well it's a solid base for the entire season. Even without any upgrades during the season they might be able to win the championship.

@GameOver-nm2us

3 ай бұрын

@@1255XL they might win the 2025 championship with this spec of car at this point, it's ridiculous

@ABlockBeats

3 ай бұрын

​@@1255XLlol what universe are you in? This is the downfall of RB.

@1255XL

3 ай бұрын

@@ABlockBeats the RB20 is the downfall of Red Bull? I would stop smoking whatever it is the stuff u use.

@Owinksi_

3 ай бұрын

@@ABlockBeats i want to see another winner as much as the next fan, but the RB20 is too good, even if this is the start of the downfall, they could still be very competitive with the RB20 until reg changes in 2026

Max said he wanted everyone in the team, with no one leaving. Last night the key people were working on that, on sorting out their differences. Max already said he isn't the leaving, especially now that Marko confirmed he's staying.

You know something is really wrong when the off track drama is more exciting to watch than whatever on track racing is going on

@bujfvjg7222

3 ай бұрын

You could go watch reruns of robot warz...

@petat13

3 ай бұрын

It’s early in the season. They need to create the drama until the racing gets interesting.

@tubularcandy812

3 ай бұрын

The Brits from The Race love to do this to make Red Bull look bad cause they hate Verstappen.

@darikdatta

3 ай бұрын

F1 is always better when this kind of thing is going on.

@BigPurp9

3 ай бұрын

@@petat13the racing hasn’t been interesting in nearly 2 years

I thought The Race has more class and won't milk this cow almost every day...this whole video is, "we believe" "it is believed" "apparently" etc. Marko made a comment, and now we make stories around it

@boon240

3 ай бұрын

You should've have heard them in the press conference

@SamWelker

3 ай бұрын

Or the “Horner scandal” not the rumors of Horner. Completely separate kind of deal.

@Cupcardriver

3 ай бұрын

They can’t help themselves. Zero proof to date about anything but they’ve (so called media) been reporting from “sources”. STFU until proof if ever shows up. It’s being done because of RBR’s dominance.

@jpfr624

3 ай бұрын

I mean they still win because you’re here but thanks for playing

@LiftandCoa

3 ай бұрын

Media was convinced of Horners guilt 5 weeks ago. Since they have been disappointed they desperately try to overblow anything. Seemingly RB sells like hotcake when you put it in your headline, Journalism be damned, who cares.

What's really exhausting about this is.... No one outside rb actually knows wats going on... And media and you tubers are just speculating on rumors for clicks... No media outlet has reason why max won't leave as a lead story cause it won't gt clicks...

@Gamurboi

3 ай бұрын

exactly, there are so many videos about max going to mercedes when there is an almost zero chance of him doing so

@kondjanegongo796

3 ай бұрын

@@Gamurboi Like why would he give up a dominant car to go to Mercedes or Aston that cannot guarantee a win or title... He has an example of Alonso who has gone 12 years with NO WIN and Lewis basically 3 seasons with NO WIN... He will Maximize this opportunity untill it becomes stale. And then possibly run to another team that is winning, Just like Lewis is doing

'Serenity now!'😅

@FenderUsa

3 ай бұрын

Insanity later

@Desmo748

3 ай бұрын

George!

@juandiegoprado

3 ай бұрын

Are you supposed to yell it???

@Scottie_S

3 ай бұрын

@@FenderUsa Just sit back, relax and have a good chew on some Chinese gum. It does taste a little Lo-Mein-y though...

@nationharris

3 ай бұрын

Haha watched that the other day

It's funny usually the drivers need managing. Now, it's the management that needs managing.

In a previous video the race said they didn't want to report on hearsay and rumor but now they are just drawing their own conclusions from hearsay and rumor. So which one is it?

@meikgeik

3 ай бұрын

this is the biggest development in the 2024 season right now. It's relevant news.

@lankon1991

3 ай бұрын

It's an f1 platform reporting on the information it has. Would be weird to just not mention it.

@argh_666

3 ай бұрын

It's the clicks! Always the clicks!

@paulvannoordwyk8968

3 ай бұрын

I think we have come to expect this - British Journalism at it's finest

It's a fucking disgrace. They have the best car, the best driver, they are right on on rails to win another championship, and they are playing some weird power games in the team, like it's Game of Thrones. Stop the squabbles and race, when things aren't going well, then fight each other.

@wapphigh5250

3 ай бұрын

100% agree.

@Batchat2352

3 ай бұрын

Power dude. Its all about power. The parent company seems they want to be the ones who get all the praises and put their people in place and redbull under horner is resisting that. Now they trying to ruin horner image and force him to resign. Its a common tactic

*DISCLAIMER* This video was sponsored by Jos Verstappen

The Race: DRAMA! EVERYONE! THERE! IS! DRAMA! HERE! Everyone: calm tf down

@jeffsteyn7174

3 ай бұрын

No. Just redbull fanboys... and it's more like look at marko there's no issue with marrier horner screwing his subordinate.

@Very_Grumpy_Cat

3 ай бұрын

Your point is The Race is dramatising Red Bull's conflicts?

@hudgensons

3 ай бұрын

attempted journalism

@atothemod1

3 ай бұрын

@@Very_Grumpy_Catyes they are.

The Brit Media as DTS casuals wishing hard Max leaves Red Bull. But he will be with RB dominating at least until 2026. And then he might go to Mercedes.

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

Why Merc? Such a lame attempt by UK media to pump up their favorite team. A WDC with Ferrari is the only thing worth more than what Max already has

@paunixon

3 ай бұрын

Oh, it's not just the Brit media. Max will never be recognized as a potental GOAT until he wins in more than one team. Frankly, Piastry, Norris, LeClerk, Alonso, Hamilton...Christ Bearman could have won today's GP in the RB20.

@xflynskywlkr27

3 ай бұрын

​@@paunixonyep. Lets see him beat a quality teammate or competition from other team week after week and still come out on top. Until then hes just a good driver in a perfect situation

@ricardovivas7686

3 ай бұрын

@@xflynskywlkr272021 is enough proof especially later in that season when mercedes started having the better car

@paunixon

3 ай бұрын

@@WOWWOW-hk1tb McLaren, Williams are the Brit's favourite teams. If either of those teams ever win a WC again, you will see far more enthusiasm than you ever have with Merc. Any WDC with any other team is worth more than what Max already has which is a gift from Masi, a gift from Merc in 22 and a gift from Newey in 23. He has not proven anything yet.

You do the best speculative fiction there is. 🤣 If Max listens to his Dad based on his Dad's dislike of Christian then he's gonna take a massive dive IMHO.

@EhEhEhEINSTEIN

3 ай бұрын

You're not wrong, but many athletes have thrown a successful career away for less.

@krumhorniger1863

3 ай бұрын

Now it seems far away again but yesterday it seemed almost real. Marko seid clearly after Qualifying in German TV that he does not know if he would work for Red Bull the next day and that he has no problem with leaving immediately if the hearing does not go his was. And Max clearly said No Helmut - No Max to this. If Marko stays ok - but yesterday everyone thought it would be over and I think even Marko himself.

@Willbrse

3 ай бұрын

Drivers get too much attention so they think they are "THE PEOPLE" of F1... they are so overrated. What will Max do at Mercedes or Ferrari? He'd win nothing. People like Horner and Newey are way more important than Hamiltons and Vertappens. This threat makes no sense.

@cantfindawayout

3 ай бұрын

@@Willbrse That's an insane take if I've ever heard one. You think Bottas would have won 8 WDCs and 8 WCCs for Mercedes during the 2014-2020 period like Rosberg and Hamilton did? Do you think Webber would have brought Red Bull those championships during the 2010-2013 period? How about Barichello in Ferrari during the 1999-2004 period? You think he'd get 5 WDCs and 6 WCCs in that car (which was 100% the best in 2002 and 2004 and either best or 2nd best in other years)? The answer to all 3 is 'no'. Neither Bottas for Merc, nor Webber for RB, nor Barichello for Ferrari would result in champioships (maybe 1, if they were lucky). Drivers are extremely important, you're not going to win anything even if you have the best car, but a mid-level driver. You need a car as dominant as the one Ferrari had in 2004, Merc had in 2014 or RB had in 2023 to win something despite the driver (as in, Perez probably would have won the championship in 2023 car). Cars as dominant as that don't happen often.

@Willbrse

3 ай бұрын

@@cantfindawayout The answer is yes. Heck Perez would be world champion last season. Anyone a bit more stable than him, like Bottas, would win as much as Vertappen did. Drivers need the team ready for them, but they can't build it. It's people like Horner, Toto, Newey that get things built, the drivers only drive the car. Cars dominant as that happens often. You don't watch F1 I guess... Drivers have their importance but this importance is way smaller than people think. Hamilton can't do 💩now at Mercedes. Verstappen couldn't win before and it took some drastic rule change for Red Bull to be competitive. 2005 saw another change which hit Ferrari, etc. Drivers are overrated. Ofc people like Stroll are just naturally bad. I don't think these would win even in Red Bull. But to say Max is a big loss for Red Bull and a big win for other team is senseless. He can't win without an ultra car, just like Hamilton can't do that now. The "GOATs" of F1 always had some amazing team of engineers and the TP who built it all behind them, those people are the real stars of F1. And the fact that these so called legends 99% of the time are fighting only 1 (ONE) other driver in the best scenario (because either the other teams can't build a decent car or the team of the said legend puts 100% of the effort behind the guy while the other driver is forced to eat the leftovers) proves that I'm right.

Guess more clickbait is needed after another snoozer of a race 😴

@sekou3758

3 ай бұрын

Cry more hamilton fanboy

@MoGumbo_

3 ай бұрын

@@sekou3758 World's lousiest bait

@hellomadet

3 ай бұрын

@@sekou3758 Hamilton fans have almost no reason to cry. I don't know if you realize, but Hamilton has won 7 world titles, becoming the second driver in F1 history to do so. The only crying I hear lately comes from Verstappen fanboys, who have already proclaimed him the best driver ever and throw a tantrum like toddlers when someone disagrees with them. 🤔

@jstoli996c4s

3 ай бұрын

@@sekou3758 nice try bud, but no

He won’t but get those views whilst you can. Earliest would be in 2 years

@aidanbazan7769

3 ай бұрын

Wrong

@voongnz

3 ай бұрын

unless he has some exit clause or buy out clause written in his contract.

@alexpickering735

3 ай бұрын

​@@voongnz he does

@Oni1975

3 ай бұрын

Contract lengths mean very little in professional sports. RBR need Max far more than Max needs RBR. I'm not saying he'll definitely go, but if all this becomes just too much of a headache, I can see Max taking his brand elsewhere. For obvious reasons, Max would have his pick of the paddock and clear #1 on whatever team he joined. We'll just have to wait and see.

@snowtrooper8817

3 ай бұрын

@@Oni1975other way round. RBR will win with 50-60% of the drivers on the grid. Verstappen’s camp has literally just failed an attempted coup.

I remember a time when The Race was always just about the engineering on the cars and which team was faster because they had made certain developments. Ever since they brought over these guys from Autosport they have gotten too heavily into off-the-track drama. Leave that stuff to Netflix and go back to showing us the aerodynamics and telemetry breakdowns.

@squelchedotter

3 ай бұрын

When was that time

@Gigabyte-df8yu

3 ай бұрын

Why would you see anything wrong with it? If they still do both, a all-in-one F1 news source is anything but a negative thing for the community when we are seeing other channels quit left and right

@Redlingstein

3 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

@chrismadz7338

3 ай бұрын

Edd, Scott and Mark left Autosport and set up The Race.

@soundscape26

3 ай бұрын

They still do those videos you so crave for... pre-season was full of them.

And the fact Horner wasnt suspended while this was on going is how it should be. So sick of this trail by media and being punished before the matter has been heard. Youd never see a court dish a punishment before the trail or hearing of the case. .. ...

@ry9043

3 ай бұрын

Uh You do realise people are arrested and held in jail to await trial all the time... right?

@warburtons8114

3 ай бұрын

Horndog

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

​​@@ry9043Not by a court, and only for criminal actions, of which Hornyman has done none

@happylittlesynth

3 ай бұрын

@@WOWWOW-hk1tb No, but 100% he's breached company HR policies.

@lankyboy90

3 ай бұрын

he's accused of breaching HR policy. Big difference. Also, that isn't always a means for levelling a suspension.@@happylittlesynth

Redbull is going to be fine. If Dietrich none of this would have ever happened. I'm sure after the meetings this week everyone will shut up.

@Adreno23421

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Just the Media will keep up saying "everything is going to chaos" and "going to explode". When in reality Red Bull wins again, and Max is smiling and happy driving.

@900108Chale

3 ай бұрын

King is gone, long live the new king after the princes fight it off (those whom benefited so much from Dietrich). the FOOLS are now flexing their muscles without understanding how difficult it is to create such an effective team... BTW IF Horner leaves he'll be taking a sh*t ton of talent with him to a promising team (Audi?). Also, Betcha the clown leading Ford is part of the issue. *_Classic game of thrones._*

@LiftandCoa

3 ай бұрын

the meeting ALREADY HAPPENED before the race yesterday thats why this video is so hilariously bad

@samg8012

3 ай бұрын

Helmut was just waiting for Dietrich to pass so that he could take over the team. Between him and Jos, they are the ones causing all the crap.

Max ain’t walking away from the fastest car….period!!!

@soundscape26

3 ай бұрын

So it's all about the car then?

@roberthak3695

3 ай бұрын

Its at least 90% the car, or at most 95% the car. Perez last year had a very very bad year, but yet he still managed to finish 2nd. Meaning. Max is definitely way better than Perez, but Perez finishing second despite his totally mediocre year of racing means that in that car almost every driver would have won the championship if they didnt have Max in the team. @@soundscape26 Obviously not a Lulu fan.

@happylittlesynth

3 ай бұрын

@@roberthak3695 The fact that Max can pull so far away from the pack suggests that even in a 'slower' car, say a mercedes, he would still be able to clench wins. I have no doubt about that.

@roberthak3695

3 ай бұрын

Simply delusional.@@happylittlesynth

@patepulkkinenvtec2403

3 ай бұрын

​@@roberthak3695Perez scored fewer points in 2023 than in 2022. He got that 2nd place in the championship because the fight for thd 2nd best team was so tight and Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and Aston were taking opints off from each other.

In 2 days: " WHY MAX VERSTAPPEN REALLY COULD LEAVE RED BULL BUT REALLY REALLY!" 4 days: "THIS TIME WHY MAX COULD REALLY TRULY LEAVE RB!" 6 days: "OUR VERDICT: WHY MAX COULD REALLY LEAVE RB (SERIOUSLY!!!!)!"

The only important question is "who makes Newey happy?" - and this person must stay.

@rars0n

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Red Bull will be fine without Max, but they will be hurting without Newey. Actually, they'll be hurting regardless in 2026 thanks to new regs and the need to build their own engine.

@seashackf1

3 ай бұрын

Horner protects Newey from the toxic people like Marko so he can focus on designing cars.

@ChuyR.

3 ай бұрын

People talk about Newey as if he built the RB20 all by himself in a cave with a box of scraps, sophisticated things as an F1 car design is a conjoint effort of dozens of people and technology, Newey having a notebook drawing air lines is just Red bull marketing, he is definitely a genius, but if he leaves Pierre Wache can easily take over and keep dominating. Don't drink the Kool aid guys.

@rars0n

3 ай бұрын

@@ChuyR. It's not "if he leaves," it's "if he joins another team." That is, there's no doubt that Red Bull can continue to make brilliant cars (aero-wise) with the personnel they have around Newey, but if Newey goes to another team, you can bet his imprint will be all over that team's car. Which bodes poorly for Red Bull, especially coming into 2026 when they will be struggling with their own power unit.

@RoyMatzem

3 ай бұрын

Aero will be less important in the next gen. Engines will be huge again. And Redbull will have shit ones.

Seems to me like this thing is dying down.

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

Media keeping it on life support

Gotta love how you assume Horner did it.

@Blech319

3 ай бұрын

Just look at the guy.

@konigstiger3252

3 ай бұрын

"Accused = guilty " modern media

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

This is why we broke off from the British in 1776

What has gone very poorly is all the KZread channels and news outlets make a huge case out of this.

@RoyMatzem

3 ай бұрын

Thats sad... They did the same with Susie-Toto last month. Absolutely nothing is happen!

@Redlingstein

3 ай бұрын

Hear hear

Helmut gets fired, Verstappen quits. Redbull doesn’t let him out of his contract so he goes to Endurance Racing. And the winner is…..Fernando Alonso. Redbull hires him since he’s out of contract at the end of the season and he puts in a season so dominant in 2025 that we all start counting down days until he retires

@Redlingstein

3 ай бұрын

Didn’t you read the news? Helmut stays, Max stays, Horner stays and they will fully focus on the racing again.

If they can't beat them on track, then they bad mouth you on social media

The race, so bored with the on track action and frustrated with the Redbull dominance will try to keep the drama going as long as possible.

@carruptmedia

3 ай бұрын

You clicked on the drama didn’t you?

@dannyboyy31

3 ай бұрын

Yet here you are. Plenty of other F1 channels to choose from if you don't like The Race 🤷‍♂

@Marc98338

3 ай бұрын

Brits at their finest.

@dannyboyy31

3 ай бұрын

@@Marc98338Yet here you both are....

@Marc98338

3 ай бұрын

@@dannyboyy31 KZread algoritm

11:24 Surely it's illegal for him to talk publicly about HR issues with a staff member that presumably reports to him in some fashion? Seems lazy by F1 media to pretend otherwise.

@braedonmorrissey7548

3 ай бұрын

Well if the employee in question has received severance pay (as a Reddit post I just scrolled by an hour ago suggested) she is no longer part of the company

@EdthePlumber

3 ай бұрын

There be NDA all over it, anyone who actually know won’t be allowed to say anything Even without NDA, the boss can’t talk to the media about a hr issue in any real details. That would be a massive lawsuit against red bull

Bit disappointed that the first video you've decided to drop after the race is about Horner situation. I like this channel cos you do great videos about the race weekend, really breakdown whats happned and give an insight that we dont see through the TV. Your coverage of the horner sitiation is just becoming more like tabloid news... Your channel is called The Race, not the The Gossip

Max linking his future to Helmut is Crazy and very unlikely

@B-kl8vj

3 ай бұрын

His dad does the thinking.

@MaxFromSydney1

3 ай бұрын

Helmut could die any second from natural causes and no one would think he got ripped off by Mother Nature. But why should Max really care that much?

@snowrabbit9558

3 ай бұрын

@@B-kl8vjthat’s why he is a 4 times champ soon 😉

@roberthak3695

3 ай бұрын

Not its not. Its because of Red Bull. Thinking Max is special makes you look silly just like Hamilton fans who think the winning is purely due to the driver. Delusional DTS fans... Yes he is beating Perez, but everybody knows Perez is an average driver... @@snowrabbit9558

@maumau6961

3 ай бұрын

​@@B-kl8vj or maybe he's loyal to the guy who gave him a chance in F1?

He'd be the sort of mad lad to leave mid season in a dominant car

@Novacification

3 ай бұрын

Yeah! I like Max but good luck winning in a Merc

@3800TURBO

3 ай бұрын

Anyone else will still win in the RB. Maybe not by 20sec but still by 10sec 😂

@Novacification

3 ай бұрын

@@3800TURBO I don't think just anyone would win, since Perez is often struggling to place 2nd in a much superior car, but I think Hamilton, Russel, Lando, Leclerc or maybe Sainz would almost certainly win the WDC in the RB. Especially because the closest of the competitors are Ferrari right now but Max and Hamilton would not go to the same team.

@thorodinson376

3 ай бұрын

​@Novacification Perez had an easy P2 both these races. Especially Jedha. Let's see what this season holds but I don't think bes going to "struggle" being P2 in the championship. Max is never going to leave RB mid domination though so this whole video and convo is useless.

@Novacification

3 ай бұрын

@@thorodinson376 maybe he'll have a better season this year but I doubt it. The car was no less dominant last year and he struggled a lot.

this is womens magazine level.

And the award to the worst manager of all time is to: Jos Verstappen.

The Austrian executives of the Red Bull organization risk killing their golden goose because they do not understand racing.

@waynedrummond6583

3 ай бұрын

They don't have to understand racing. They understand marketing. The first rule of marketing? ANY advertising is good advertising...

@sheldoniusRex

3 ай бұрын

@@waynedrummond6583 you may be right. Cynics often are.

@smith2781

3 ай бұрын

Same thing happened when Enzo died with Ferrari. I’ve seen a John Barnard interview, he was saying that Enzo’s son thought he was his old man. He had his own engineers designing and doing wind tunnel tests on their own car. Whilst John was designing the car in England. They were working against him trying to better him, instead of working with him. They threw away the 1990 championship because of it.

@smith2781

3 ай бұрын

Dr Marko has always wanted to run the team. He’s undermined Horner a few times. During the infamous ‘muti 21’ incident he allegedly got mad at SEB for it. But Dr Marko went mad at Horner for doing so. Also they had a two and throw about the driver that got sacked last year. Horner said he wasn’t ready but Marko got his own way and we all know how that ended. Whilst Dietrich was alive he made it clear that Horner runs the team and Marko is Dietrich’s adviser when it comes to the drivers and he was in charge of the young driver’s program. But since Dietrich’s passing you have Marko trying to take over the whole thing.

@gerhardolivier6285

3 ай бұрын

​@waynedrummond6583 No good advertising is good, bad advertising costs you market share and customers, just ask Gillette, Bud Light and co.

The showrunners of Drive to Survive are having a field day.

Jesus Christ man. Netflix gonna have a field day for next season

The fact that the lady who made the accusations has been named and suspeneded suggests to me that there wasnt much in the claims and the media has blow it all up.

The Brits are determined to bring down Redbull and Max 😂

@sgtgrash

3 ай бұрын

Red Bull is imploding all by itself. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Brits... 🤫

@sgtgrash

3 ай бұрын

So tell me... Exactly what dastardly weapon are us 'Brits' using to commit such a heinous act? Mr Horner, perhaps? He IS a 'Brit', after all, so he must be in the frame. Likewise, Adrian Newey, who is also a member of these damp & soggy islands. Perhaps Newey is the evil mastermind behind it all, hmmm? 🤣😂🤣

@sumitblogs15

3 ай бұрын

Yes you are right....😅😅😅😅 they want to see lulu win again

@blargl121

3 ай бұрын

Yes it's definitely not due to literal quotes from Horner and max, they're totally making everything up and not reporting on real news that Every publication is right now.

@Degenevesting

3 ай бұрын

@@blargl121it’s the whole incident he’s more referring to. Someone is trying to take down RB.

this whole drama feels like it all started with horner not doing whatever jos wanted. the fact that the accuser is apparently involved with jos is hard to not see as related. horner has lead red bull to some of the greatest success in f1. i wouldn’t think any driver was worth sacking him. now adrian newey migh be

I had respect for your channel. Now this has become just another media of the click bait shitty controversies pile.

Scott michel king of drama and the negativity towards red bull is hard to swallow… 19 wins in 20 races, a one two again….but the race is now a brit telanovela

Uploading this after a 1-2 Redbull finish is just bizarre!

@declaredjeans7555

3 ай бұрын

Why? The results doesn't change the tensions in the team. As long as the wife-beater is stirring up drama, people will talk about it..

All that and you still missed the fact that the female who was suspended had been romantically linked to Jos Verstappen in 21-22. Plus Jos seen speaking with Toto a number of times and it clearly states that if the hierarchy at RB changes, this can open up a leave clause in Max’s contract.

@soundscape26

3 ай бұрын

"the female who was suspended had been romantically linked to Jos Verstappen in 21-22" - Is this really confirmed? All I see is rumours about that.

@Mammel248

3 ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 I don't think it has been confirmed... we would've seen bruises on her in 21-22 :D

@impugnu7852

3 ай бұрын

I call that nonsence. There's one picture of Jos having a hand on her shoulder (even though they don't bend towards each other). They obviously know each other, but i don't see how that proves 'the fact' of a romantic involvement. If there were pictures taken at my company's last New Year's party you could argue by the same means that I was 'romantically linked' to half the company. Which is nonsence. However I would still be p.o. if a boss treated one of my coworkers poorly.

@nosebleedpuddle

3 ай бұрын

What absolute fucking nonsense.

@The_Elder_Weeb

3 ай бұрын

just say her name...her name is Fiona Hewitson and her identity needs to be known to everyone

Call his bluff

Everyone in current RB Racing team just leave and set up a new team, let the new RB management handle the current team and lose it all.. That would be awesome to watch. 🍿

Senseless video

Another scenario is Horner moving to Aston, Lawrence giving stocks and poaching Newey

May wild guess is marko, newey and max move to aston Martin. then they can build another rb with Honda engine on 2026

@kavishdaya9793

3 ай бұрын

That would be amazing. Max and Yuki geez

@halofreak1990

3 ай бұрын

Newey isn't going anywhere unless another team are willing to let him do hobby projects (like the AM Valkyrie or RB17 on the side)

Yuki is in RB because of Honda and Marko. Daniel was given another chance in the junior team because of Horner. Marko or Horner, whichever is pushed out, will seriously drag their favourite driver's future with them😅 Camp Marko: Verstappen, Albon, Yuki, Carlos. Camp Horner: Daniel, Checo, Lawson. all will be hugely affected by this🔥

Almost sounds like Game of Thrones RB edition

Nobody is bigger than the team. If he leaves he leaves. His reason for leaving is a different story, grown man letting his daddy pull the strings 🥴

Unless Newey also leaves, it's all feels like a nothing burger for the Red Bull team, they'll have a new Champ in Perez (or any other driver that is better than Perez).

Bet Ferrari are sorry now that they didn't wait another few months as Max would be a far better bet for a return to success than Hamilton. Also no one is mentioning Honda or the fact that they would try and push to get him into the Aston Martin

"Netflix GoPro cameras" - proceed to show the DJI action 4

Ford’s ‘power unit’ will definitely not be as good as the Honda-supported one. Red Bull May end up in a mediocre Renault-partnership situation again. Could be time to leave

@rars0n

3 ай бұрын

It's not even a Ford power unit, it's an RBPT power unit. Ford's contribution is reportedly mainly on the EV and software side of things. They are going to struggle in 2026 regardless.

@prozoomy3588

3 ай бұрын

Its a Honda engine with a RBPT and Ford sticker

@MoGumbo_

3 ай бұрын

@@prozoomy3588 No its not goofy, Ford are working the EV side of the engine

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

​@@prozoomy3588If it's based on the Honda then the actual Honda will almost undoubtedly beat it. Original vs. third party engineering

@rars0n

3 ай бұрын

@@prozoomy3588 2026's engine will have nothing to do with Honda.

The only one they should fear leaving is Adrian Newey. I know Max is the best right now, but the car is the major performance differentiator in F1 now. Leclerc, Alonso, Lando, Sainz is not far away, they can certainly be world champion in a Newey car.

@ndh06

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it'll be a bigger blow if Newey leaves for another team, although there are plenty of engineers with Red Bull that have learnt from him and could step out from his shadow, too.

@razi_haron

3 ай бұрын

@@ndh06 based on recent history, there are a few former high ranking RB engineers (they were labelled as Newey proteges) that left RB and joined other teams, but none managed to design a car that can match Newey's car.

@ndh06

3 ай бұрын

@razi_haron good point. The only counter I can place against it is that it depends on which team they move to. If the proteges move teams without the resources and freedoms that Adrian is accustomed to, their talents might come off hampered. Adrian Newey is certainly the talent that he's hyped to be. His ability to find loopholes and adapt other car designs into his own car is second to none, but it is important to acknowledge that he doesn't do it alone.

@hellomadet

3 ай бұрын

@@razi_haron Just being a protégé of someone as talented as Adrian Newey does not make anyone a brilliant engineer, but the fact that several former high-ranking RB engineers have not yet managed to design a car to match RedBull does not mean that they will not be able to do so in the future. Loïc Bigois, for example, had been an aerodynamics engineer in F1 since 1990, but his greatest success didn't come until 2009, when he was involved in designing the aero-dynamics for the Brawn BGP 001, a feat for which he received the Racecar Aerodynamicist of the Year Award.

I really like how you don't fall into speculations. I see it criticized in the comments, but not firmly stating speculation as fact is really great! It is nice to be updated on this situation without it feeling like a lust for drama. Keep doing what you are doing please, we really need a less speculative news channel for F1!

Yuki is a midfield driver, with the skills of a rookie and the temperament of a seasoned champion. Not getting a RB seat. That's not the profile.

It amazes me so many people (including the press) feel they have the right to know what happened with the investigation. It’s a corporate HR issue, not a criminal case

11:08 unclear or incorrect. Either she was suspended after the investigation finished and t also had been treated like Horner until then or you didn’t explain well she was suspended as soon as she filed, which I very much doubt happened

It's sad that these organizations have these kinds of issues at that level. If only they were allowed to race in cars without having to deal with their own teams crap.

Helmut's relevance to Verstappen's career ended when Max got an F1 seat, at most when he became WC on 2021....... After that.. what does Helmut bring to Max's career?

Calling Verstappen's bluff? If max says he will leave if Helmut gets forced out, then I would believe him. Max acts with impunity.

@halofreak1990

3 ай бұрын

And then what? Max isn't going to make that Mercedes a podium contender just because he's driving it. If he leaves Red Bull before 2026, he's not going to add many more wins, let alone a WDC to his tally. If he's smart, he'll stay right where he is for now, and wait at least until Mercedes has shown they know how to build a podium contender again

@mr.idonthaveaname8713

3 ай бұрын

​@@halofreak1990if he wanted he could choose any motorsport(im pretty sure he has doors open anywhere) he wanted in the meantime until new regs come 26.

Does anyone think the media is just playing all of this up way too much? this video feels like that Charlie Day meme from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia haha

Remind me again WHY a private company needs to make public their internal proceedings regarding HR related items and cases of what is a private matter?

I've never understood the exact role of Marko and found him extremely annoying. If he and Max want to leave then RB should show them the door. As long as Newey stays, they will be just fine.

@Snaakie83

3 ай бұрын

First of all, Marko has been with Red Bull since their beginning in '99. He's the head of the teams driver development programme...most (young) drivers at Red Bull have been and are spotted and tutored by Marko. There's absolutely no chance of Max leaving Red Bull, unless their teams organization completely collapses. Sadly the sewer journalism reigns supreme, creating and endless stream of clickbaity garbage nonsense. It's a parade of regurgitated opinions, assumptions and wishful thinking... completely devoid of factual substance. We'll know what happened when it's done, clearly the power balance within the team has shifted, which eventually results in a new situation. As Max always states, he's there to race...the circus around that has no function to him, so it makes sense for him to simply ignore it. The intent of his statements regarding Horner or Marko are very simple, a solution to shut down the endless barrage of useless questions from 'journalists'. He's not loyal to one or another, he was just stating that he'd rather not see the team change.

The race have really shown themselves during this saga.

@Marc98338

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Sadly, typical Brits.

Max isn't going anywhere until '26 at the earliest and even then I doubt it but you have to get them views up so I get it.

Good video with an excellent breakdown of the state of things. But i wish i wouldn't have to hear about this constantly. I just want to see and hear about racing!! :(

Like Verstappen is really going to give that car up !!...every other driver in F1 would be looking at their contracts to see if there is a break clause to get in that Red Bull...where would Max go ? Merc ?....he won't be winning many races in that !!!

Max heavily depends on Helmut Marko's existence, not sure why.

@LousySob

3 ай бұрын

Loyalty. Marko pushed for Max' seat in F1.

@Mandykiss4500

3 ай бұрын

It’s called Loyalty, something Christian does NOT have…

I think Max will be warned the team is much bigger than just him (and his dubious father). If he leaves there are others that can drive that car well enough to continue winning. Max may realise no one person is irreplaceable.

@lankyboy90

3 ай бұрын

just look at Perez...yes he may have not qualified second, but he finished second. And still pulled a gap on the third place finisher both times. Take Max away, you still have a Red Bull on the top step of the podium.

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

3 ай бұрын

Lol

what do you mean transparency? do they owe us this?

Transparency? What transparency? It's a HR matter at a private company. UK and EU privacy laws prohibit the release of this kind of information and all the people calling for it are ignorant.

Max winning a championship at Mercedes would be wild

@TheVault76Dweller

3 ай бұрын

Max being anywhere else but RedBull is wild

@seashackf1

3 ай бұрын

Nobody, including Max, is winning a title in the ‘25 Merc. He would be giving up a WDC. Who ever gets his seat at RB would.

@Arch3r666

3 ай бұрын

Don't see Toto wanting to tolerate Jos's BS.... let alone Marko's

@rars0n

3 ай бұрын

@@Arch3r666 Toto apparently has a good relationship with Jos. At least that's what he's stated publicly.

@notdylan561

3 ай бұрын

Or Sainz winning the title with Red Bull

Gossip girls at it again

I think it's so obvious what happened. Someone encouraged the employee to bring up false allegations about Christian Horner. That somebody is obviously whoever wants to take his spot later. This person also thought that with things like the me too movement that just unfound accusations would get Christian out. Luckily Red Bull actually looked into the process and realized that it's nothing of the sort.

Do we really think Max will give up the best team/car in the grid before his contract is up? Good luck with the inferior teams. Jos is an absolute tool.

Baffled as to what the axe is that The Race has toward Horner. He was proven innocent, the aggrieved party was apparently discovered to be making malicious accusations. Anyone would think this the first time a female staff member has been false witness in their own cause before. Not only that but it's like you haven't ever read a single corporate policy or even the most basic cursory knowledge of UK employment law. When it comes to suspension and dismissal, employment law comes down to essentially whether there has been a breakdown of TRUST in the person and it can be demonstrated. Obviously until such a time as the investigation proved otherwise Horners long service and unblemished record would have held him in good standing. The legally required corporate procedure took place and found him innocent. In conducting the investigation the accusatory party opened the door for evidence against them to be brought forward by Horner in his defence. This likely demonstrated the reasons for there to be such a breakdown of trust in the party raising the grievance especially if vexatious. There is always a clause in any grievance process too to protect against it being misused/misappropriated. Like Horner said all the leaks and speculation has been ONE WAY. A good JOURNALISTIC establishment would be doing more than speculating on official press releases (so much of new medias news grifts in such regard) and actually done some investigative work to ascertain verifiable facts in both directions. However these days journalists like most young people don't know how to generate close relationships and develop sources properly.

@roberthak3695

3 ай бұрын

Thnx.

I started listening to The Race for content better than this.

aaand ...still no explanation of Jos's repeated comments that Horner is going to blow up Red Bull... I think this really is a power struggle for control of Red Bull, and it could blow up the team if Max and Newey (etc) are driven out as a result. But why is Jos *pushing* to get rid of Horner. No one is talking about this, most of all Jos. Someone has to call him on this!

anyone who believes for one second that any racing driver let alone max would leave a team with the fastest car on the track to drive a slower one really doesnt understand a racing drivers mind and wants their own mind looking at

Anyone who sits in a redbull will be a champion at this point

@spud3746

3 ай бұрын

a bit like the Mercedes years 2014 to 2020 :-)

Always fun to hear what y’all have been dreaming up at the water cooler.

a classic example of corporate management ruining everything. Max and Horner are unrepeatable.

The real winner in this? Netflix😂

Jos needs to go away!

It’s the right thing to suspend the employee because if she was really being honest then she would have gone to the law enforcement, filling a complaint to an employer is not enough .😮

@jamesormondroyd1009

3 ай бұрын

she would only go to law enforcement if a law had been broken. Companies have rules that employees need to follow beyond “don’t break the law” that can get you fired

@squelchedotter

3 ай бұрын

From experience, police doesn't do anything about segxual harassment lol. They could not care less.

@roberthak3695

3 ай бұрын

Yet soyboys like Scott above still claim Horner broke internal company rules despite RED BULL clearing him ... @@jamesormondroyd1009

Interesting but I’ve never understood what Helmut Marko actually does within Red Bull……just being called an ‘advisor’ doesn’t explain anything……what’s the area of expertise he advises on?

how many times has the thumbnail changed 😂

Normally, The Race is not nearly as speculative and PC as with this Hornet brouhaha. The truth is we know virtually none of the facts, which must be very frustrating to journalists. It could be Horner is 100% being falsely accused, this has happened many times since the MeToo movement started. Please tone it down.

@jstogdill

3 ай бұрын

🙄

@jstogdill

3 ай бұрын

The me too movement exists because misogynists have a tendency to automatically dismiss any allegation against men and get annoyed that “focus isn’t in the racing” or whatever fill in the blank thing that person also does. Kinda like this comment section full of whinging incels broken up by the possibility that holding a powerful man accountable runs the risk of distracting their personal driving Jesus from going around in circles faster than the other guys’ personal driving Jesus’.

Verstappen isn't going to Merc. Nobody is leaving a team with that performance advantage. He's likely to win 40 races in the next 2 seasons. However whether he sets something up for 26 is another matter. Mercedes appear to be finished as a front running team, hence why the lead driver is leaving

Silly season has started early, but could lead to RB being stuck with Marko and Perez, and losing MV, AN, CH and Ford. There is only one sensible way forward: the chief belligerants (CH, Jos V and Marko - all too old) all have to leave.

Channel is changing the name to "Behind the Racing"?

Max CAN leave , ..... NOT WILL(!!!!!) leave if Marco leaves........ Maybe, RedBull is protecting(!!!!!) the woman by leaving it 'as is'..... media wants to have acces to every thing, Because we want to know, ... just shut up!!!!!!

verstappen team is dreaming if they think any other team is going to tolerate max and his father's toxic energy.

@sheldoniusRex

3 ай бұрын

Lol you're the one dreaming, m8. 😂😂😂

@Alp577

3 ай бұрын

Jokes on you, Ferrari and Mercedes will fire their main driver if Max is free. 😂

@Bina69

3 ай бұрын

I'd have clauses & shit to control egotistical shits like jos, but yea, fire lecrec/lando/russel for max

@mirasolovklose3888

3 ай бұрын

I think they are saying this because they know Adrian may also leave.

@WOWWOW-hk1tb

3 ай бұрын

"Toxicity". Sickening. You're just a weak, domesticated person - not a good person. Learn the difference.

Newey wont be leaving as hes tied to Red Bull for the RB17 hypercar.

It's always dangerous when people look at someone like Christian Horner and think that they could do his job better than him. Also it seems foolish for Verstappen to make a decision with no clarity on the 2026 car.... Every manufacturer sells drivers on the fantasy of "what we have in store for the future!" If he wants to win championships, he needs to stay put. He won't be winning races or championships at Mercedes. Please refer to Daniel Ricciardo. When the new regulations come online, he can see who has the quickest car and make a decision with data in hand.