Max Loan Challenge: Whole Life vs. Indexed Universal Life Insurance in a Fixed Account

Are Indexed Universal Life policies better than Whole Life policies? I’ve long considered the IUL to be the superior product for building wealth and distributing it tax free in retirement. However, others in the industry insist that Whole Life has more reliable and predictable cash value growth, making it the better product.
I’m not a product purist, and I do believe that both of these products have their place. However, I’m going to share why I think that the IUL is ultimately the more efficient product when it comes to accumulating tax free wealth.
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  • @WWIIPacificHistory
    @WWIIPacificHistory10 ай бұрын

    Your videos are great. My wife and I had WL policies that had really good dividend rates. However, their only loan provision had a guaranteed negative 1% arbitrage. So, I did a 1035 exchange into IUL’s in 2017 and haven’t looked back since. My IUL’s currently have a guaranteed fixed indexing/participating loan rate of 5% for the life of the policy and beginning in 2027 they’ll have a guaranteed wash loan provision. I find WL to be only better for those who are extremely risk adverse and who don’t want to learn how to actively manage the death benefit in the IUL to keep the costs of the annual renewable term insurance under control as you get older.

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    10 ай бұрын

    I think that was a smart move!

  • @markbyelichcfp
    @markbyelichcfp Жыл бұрын

    Great video! very good explanation and comparison. Thank you for helping to keep consumers informed.

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark!

  • @DrBrandonSchultz
    @DrBrandonSchultz Жыл бұрын

    Great comparison! Thank you for sharing.

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brandon!

  • @LouisClark4
    @LouisClark4 Жыл бұрын

    Love the comparison, David. It really answered many questions I had regarding why some of these whole life pundits trash IUL. They simply don't know what they don't know.

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comments Clark.

  • @RJ-gi2hf
    @RJ-gi2hf Жыл бұрын

    Guardian & Penn Mutual offer wash loans. Penn Mutual also offers an overloan protection rider at age 75. I own both IUL & WL.

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Are they guaranteed in the contract? If so, I'd love to see it.

  • @rd94610

    @rd94610

    10 күн бұрын

    @@DavidMcKnightDid you ever get an answer?

  • @ivanmagbago7565
    @ivanmagbago7565 Жыл бұрын

    Can you explain an entire IUL policy? There are a lot of important information that needs to be addressed.

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    I do a lot of explaining in my other video and in my book Look Before You LIRP. Check them out!

  • @Unicorn-Black
    @Unicorn-Black Жыл бұрын

    i did this comparison, and it worked the other way, i.e WL was better than the IUL fix account, maybe my parameters are different, maybe my wl policy is better than your example

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Send me an email at info@powerofzero.com and let me know which companies you used.

  • @DavidAHaugh
    @DavidAHaugh Жыл бұрын

    What if you do 50% fixed and 50% indexed in the IUL?

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Then you’ll get midway between the $48k and the $100k in loans.

  • @DevOpsSRE
    @DevOpsSRE Жыл бұрын

    All ur videos just say IUL beat anything else out there and no one can design something better than IUL.. very reason why started researching for genuine ones and came across ur videos, and now have to go back to finding better info

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    IULs work the best in some situations, but not all.

  • @cscorona1
    @cscorona1 Жыл бұрын

    The set up of this comparison seems to be a bit of a straw man argument to me. From what I've seen, most advocates of whole life do NOT advocate for it (or really any insurance product) being a cash flow tool in retirement. I know that's basically the basis of your entire philosophy, but I think you are coming from a very different place. Advocates of Whole Life view it as a volatility buffer in retirement, and would advocate for holding cash flowing assets for income.

  • @DavidMcKnight

    @DavidMcKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Right. The point of the video was to say that different policies function better in different scenarios. Whole Life shouldn’t be the go-to for distribution in retirement but it does work well in other contexts.

  • @cscorona1

    @cscorona1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DavidMcKnight Do you have any real world case studies of people actually successfully distributing from an IUL policy in retirement? How did that compare to the illustrated income? I know one of the big knocks against IUL is that retirement distributions illustrate well, but are largely unproven in the real world. Perhaps you've already done this in a video?

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cscorona1 Most funding periods are 10 to 15 years at least and not a lot of advisors have been offering these policies over that period of time. The overarching principle with these policies is to illustrate conservatively, manage distributions, and make sure it isn't your only stream of income.

  • @cscorona1

    @cscorona1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidmcknight8201 Isn't that the problem though? Without a history, who's to say what is/isn't actually a conservative illustration? I agree that illustrating with the fixed account is as good as a "conservative" illustration as any, but aren't you basically just illustrating a UL in that case? How have UL policies fared in the real world for retirement cash flow vs their illustrations? I believe they've been around a lot longer than IUL - surely there are some case studies for UL retirement income out there? That might be a good "conservative" case study to use given the limited history of IUL.

  • @davidmcknight8201

    @davidmcknight8201

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cscorona1 Well if you have a company that's averaged 7% gross returns over a 15-20 year period through a broad range of economic environments, and then you run the illustration at 6%, most people would say that's a conservative illustration. The question becomes, what gives you a greater return, putting your money in the fixed account, or allowing the company to take that money and allocate it to an options budget and try to do better. History shows that the options budget will push you further ahead.