You know it's a good time when Ian whips out the gloves.

@ragnarragnarsson3128

3 жыл бұрын

Must be pretty dang valuable...

@happyveliz

3 жыл бұрын

Please, turn your head and cough...... Oh wait, wrong gloves....

@deanparlapanides1152

3 жыл бұрын

happyveliz you had us in the first half. Not gonna lie

@WalkaCrookedLine

3 жыл бұрын

@@ragnarragnarsson3128 Ian mentioned in one of his Q & A that wearing gloves is more dependent on the venue than the gun. If the venue staff seems to prefer gloves he uses them to keep them happy. Note this venue is a museum. A lot of the videos you see Ian barehanded in are at auction houses where the staff isn't so picky.

@beargillium2369

3 жыл бұрын

@@WalkaCrookedLine yeah but also super valuable 🤑

Ian: this is the only known example of this cartridge. My brain: Fire it!

@stefanmolnapor910

3 жыл бұрын

My Brain: Ian treats us so well!

@PapaSchultz74

3 жыл бұрын

Mud test it ...

@metalbob3335

3 жыл бұрын

Guilty as charged, right here!

It's one thing to have a one off patent model of a firearm that was immediately changed and modified but to actually have a round, a single, the only one known, round for the one off pistol, that's damn cool.

@0ldFrittenfett

3 жыл бұрын

It's a Jack Sparrow kind of thing really.

@goognamgoognw6637

3 жыл бұрын

just shoot the damn round in the ground.

@Hawk1966

3 жыл бұрын

@@goognamgoognw6637 sad, just, sad.

@ludo9234

3 жыл бұрын

How could you even price something like that only bullet.

@goognamgoognw6637

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hawk1966 I was not being sarcastic, who cares it's just a bullet.

Making people create models to demonstrate usage of a patent would certainly stop patent trolling. I would if anywhere still uses the process to prevent patent system abuse.

@SuperAWaC

3 жыл бұрын

companies don't want that because they want to be able to patent things you can't make a model for, and to patent things before they are that far along in the process

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperAWaC Except of course that it wouldn't be a problem since anyone else trying to get that patent would have to do the same in order to get it. And anyone trying to "abuse" the patent, by using it without paying for it, would also have to actually make something in order for that to even be an issue.

@thomasa5619

3 жыл бұрын

Except patents aren’t just for physical mechanisms You can patent a process for making meth. How are you going to put a physical model for a chemical reaction in front of people? Or if you want something more ordinary, a solar panel. Or a computer chip, so small, you need expensive microscopes to distinguish it from any other chip

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasa5619 You show how to use that process for making meth. And just because you can barely see it in the computer chip, you can still test it to see if it's there. It prevents you from patenting things that you actually have no idea how to use, just so that you can charge someone else for then coming up with an idea of how to actually use it. Cause the latter is what patents are for....

That disassembly tool is cool too, you can see it is handmade, but with great care and skill. *(you can see how the grinding marks on the screwdriver blade are slighty rounded out, indicating it was held in hand, to a bench grinder for instance)

I seriously click new forgotten weapons videos faster than any other by a huge margin. These are so damn interesting, I can’t get enough!

Ian I appreciate your relaxing demeanor. Your videos are interesting and enjoyable on their own. No need for over the top shitty intros and annoying personalities. You’re the Bob Ross of the gun community. Please keep doing this.

@mitchellpatterson1829

3 жыл бұрын

If Ian is the Bob Ross of guns, does that make Kickok45 the Fred Rogers? (Still holding out for a co-op video between them)

Colt 45 and two Zigzags, baby that's all we need!

@edwalmsley1401

3 жыл бұрын

Afroman 👍 I got you man

@mitchellpatterson1829

3 жыл бұрын

I am also mildly disappointed with the lack of a second Mauser pistol, and a 1911 of some variety.

@michaelbarker3078

3 жыл бұрын

Mitchell Patterson yea it’s a shame ain’t it ? I think I’d want the 1903 model however

Reminds me of the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver... Still a neat gun :-)

Excelent!!. Some curious consecuence: At final stages of WWII Germany develop the Mauser MG213 cannon. From that gun France and UK developed DEFA and ADEN cannons, and USA the M39 cannon after the war. But if you see that guns (revolver aircraft cannons) they have a lot in common with Mauser zig-sag revolver. Best regards from Argentina Excelente!!. Una curiosa consecuencia: en las últimas etapas de la IIGM Alemania desarrolló el cañón MG213. De ese arma Francia e Inglaterra desarrollaron los cañones DEFA y ADEN respectivamente y EEUU el M39 después de la guerra. Pero si mira estas armas(cañones revólveres aéreos) tienen mucho en común con el revolver Mauser zig-zag. Saludos desde Argentina

The single shot pistol looks like something I would draw if I was 7 years old

@bl4cksp1d3r

3 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest, a single shot pistol is very simple

@michaelwhyte8529

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should have become a mechanical engineer, this video could be about you.

@OldDanTucker

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwhyte8529 well he would also have to be alive during 1878

@samholdsworth3957

3 жыл бұрын

Hey look a comment that everyone says on every video

@samholdsworth3957

3 жыл бұрын

💩

My absolute fav weapon! Keep it up Ian, you make my day!

It's so nice when a revolver comes with a tool for maintenance and to clean your pipe. How civilized!

Thank you for the pictures to compare to the commercial versions, you should extend this feature in your next videos so that we can always see what you're talking about ! ;)

I've never seen a break-action revolver that opens from the bottom like that.

@webtoedman

3 жыл бұрын

Ian has a video of a French revolver that operates in the same way. I believe it was called Le Fagnus or something similar.

@DoughboyJonesmk2

3 жыл бұрын

the original smith and wesson revolvers did the same thing

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Think of it like this. You grip the barrel with your off-hand and use the thumb on that hand to pull the latch. Then with your main hand (the one you normally hold it with to shoot) you flip the grip upwards. Now you got easy access to the cylinder and can easily reload it using your main hand. Then flip the grip back down and grab the pistol grip and you're good to go. It's just that Ian can't let go of the pistol grip and so flips up the barrel (and the cylinder) instead.

@Archangelm127

3 жыл бұрын

@@nehcrum Thanks, that makes a bit more sense now.

I can't remember seeing a pistol with a higher bore axis than this one.

@austinm.9832

3 жыл бұрын

What about the LeMat, or the 20 shot pinfire revolver.

Oberndorf is also the home of Heckler & Koch, they actually began production in an old Mauser Facility in 1949.

I was unaware of this gun's existence until now.

Ian, we need a video on Haenel assault rifles. H&K lost the bid in Germany for the G36 replacement, Haenel - relatively unknown and small - won the bid. Maybe you can take a look at their products and evaluate them vs. the G36? It would be very interesting -we're talking about at least 120,000 units of assault rifles for the German army.

@kevinwestermann1001

3 жыл бұрын

Probably enough to outfit every German soldier with not only one but two assault rifles. :P

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Thing is, it's not really a forgotten weapon, is it? Make that request on inrange TV instead.

Thank you , Ian .

Interesting and informative, thank you.

Always nice to see a museum from my country pop up on here

Me: "Chilling" KZread: "Wanna watch a random gun vid" Ngl pretty nice vid, worth the eight minutes

@theogeitondasamphilochos5630

3 жыл бұрын

In fact he is one of big figures in Internet gun community... He has recorded ton of weird and obscure firearms, so you could spend hours of hours to watch his videos...

@thijsvandervoort8261

3 жыл бұрын

And just like that another man joins the many followers of Gun Jesus

@gunnarhassing5875

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much all of his videos are worth the watch. No sponsorships, no begging for likes and subs, no annoying over the top intro or personality. Just a gorgeous set of facial hair, cool guns, and a pleasant speaking voice.

@abdullahhijazi3957

3 жыл бұрын

@@thijsvandervoort8261 So how are you baptized when becoming a new member of Gun Jesus

@mrlucky5025

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahhijazi3957 You will be anointed with Ballistol. To become a disciple, you must recite passages from The Book of Browning. A pilgrimage to the sacred sites of St. Etienne is optional.

It’s a zig zag cus the cylinder “rolls its own”... get it? I’ll leave now

@Ogrethephreak

3 жыл бұрын

I like you.

I dont think I recall this one. The Webley had a similar look on their Automatic revolver. Interesting find.... again! Thanks much.

Huh, the cylinder looks like the Pangor Jackhammer's one, what with the grooves.

@enricopaolocoronado2511

3 жыл бұрын

That, as well as the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver which also has grooves on the cylinder.

@sir0herrbatka

3 жыл бұрын

The same operating mechanism.

@gunnarhassing5875

3 жыл бұрын

The pancor jackhammer operated on a similar idea with a different method of rotating the cylinder. God damn I wish pancor had taken off.

@enricopaolocoronado2511

3 жыл бұрын

@@gunnarhassing5875 The Pancor looks unwieldy, impractical and too expensive when there are better alternatives on the market for autoloader shotguns and mag-fed shotguns.

@gunnarhassing5875

3 жыл бұрын

Enrico Paolo Coronado have you watched Ian’s video on it? He shows a tool room prototype and with a little refinement it would’ve been great. It’s operating system is fairly simple. The only real cost point would be the cylinders which could be reworked to be reloaded while in the gun. The design has tons of potential, but not real demand.

How complicated do you want your revolver? Yes. (Early edition)

@DerPolygonianer

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it is German.

That is a really cool pistol!

reminds me of the Webly-Fosbery with the grooves

You know it’s gonna be a good on when Ian has the gloves on

Loading that thing would make many range owners nervous and get yourself a lot of range violations with the barrel pointing in the wrong way.

I'd like to see someone make Ian's ultimate pistol or rifle based on all his favorite features from these weird and wonderful guns.

I've never seen a top-hinged break-action revolver before!

I like these. The groove-captured back-and-forth pin at the bottom of the cylinder has always struck me as a much sturdier solution than the teeny tiny push arm we're used to today.

@Informantcaster

3 жыл бұрын

It's a nice idea, the hand lever has proven to be quite sturdy though.

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Since that teeny tiny push arm is activated manually rather than by the force of recoil or gas pressure, it doesn't really have to be all that big and sturdy compared to parts in a pistol that do have to deal with such forces.

Ian, have you ever come across with the unicorn 38.spl webley fosbery? It came to mind after seeing the zigzag patern on the cilinder

Ian does not seem to age. I couldn't tell whether the video was from 2013 or just 10 hours ago ...

I'm into these antique guns

It looks very futuristic.

That cylinder reminds me of Webleys automatic revolver

@edwalmsley1401

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same method of cylinder rotation albeit mechanically operated in this case

Ive been waiting my whole adult life for this video

These look like van helsings pistols when he confronts mr. hyde

would love to see you fire it a few times xD

hey man. please do a video on the zm weapons lr300. the only ar pattern rifle that was completely reworked to have no buffer tube and a folding stock, as well as indirect gas impingement vs standard ar direct gas impingement, bypassing the native fouling of the design. really such a unique rifle and there are no in depth technical videos about it. you are the only one that could do it justice.

Who needs a six shot revolver, if there is only one round for it in existence?

Looks like a nice design. Break action revolvers are always interesting. You know, 10.5 mm works out to 42 caliber- wonder if the bullet diameter is at or near our .429". Don't have my COTW handy, but i imagine velocity was 700-750 fps or less, and a bullet weight under 200 grains. Interesting how the patent office required a model/prototype- you had to be serious about wanting a patent. Makes sense. Great video as always. Thank you

@troy9477

3 жыл бұрын

@Juan Sanchez - Yeah i thought it might be. Lighter bullet maybe.

I would enjoy a episode on just the single shot pistol

Can‘t wait to hear Ian‘s opinion on Germany‘s decision to adopt the Haenel mk 556 as the Bundeswehr’s standard assault rifle

I wish modern patents, including software and process patents, required a working model.

Revolvers with safety. I guess it really is true - if you live long enough, you will see everything under the sun ... on Forgotten Weapons.

Too early for the possibility that Einstein worked at the German patent office. How interesting would that have been for the patent to have an Einstein patent stamp? :))

AAAAH ECCO dove Webley ha preso "spunto" per il revolver 🤗

Would be curious to know the differences in ballistic performance, if any at all, between the bottle necked original and the straight walled case. I really do like the look of those Zigzags, strange grip angle and all.

I just got a notification for this.. thanks youtube

The Zig-Zag Man is packing one of these.

...And the break open revolver breaks (opens) right up into yourself...Hm...Concrete Mauser logic...We still love them :-)

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because you do it like Ian (and most americans) and can't fathom letting go of the pistol grip. Think of it like this. You grip the barrel with your off-hand and use the thumb on that hand to pull the latch. Then with your main hand (the one you normally hold it with to shoot) you flip the grip upwards. Now you got easy access to the cylinder and can easily reload it using your main hand. Then flip the grip back down and grab the pistol grip and you're good to go.

Reminds me of the Fagnus Revolver

How is this not in the fireplace collection?

Make a video on Webley mark iv

Could you do a short video on the japanese contracted vz 24?

I would like to learn about those single shot pistols

the 100rnd magazine on the calico should auto wind this way

This is the only revolver I’ve ever seen that’s chambered in a necked down cartridge..

That cylinder looks like a Webley Fosbery design.

The frame lock looks like the firearm equivalent of truck nuts

Are there any like specs for the cartridge? Differences between the necked down and straight wall?

Colt .45 and two Mauser C78's baby that's all we need

Socialblade projects 2 million subs in 4 months! Crazy!

Have I watched this video already or is there another gun Ian made a video on that uses a very similar zigzag design on the cylinder?

@reaverbad48

3 жыл бұрын

Ian did 2 videos on this pistol

For a minute, I thought the thumbnail was a Wesley Fosberry.

I love revolvers😁

I would like to watch a video on those single shot pistols.

@edwalmsley1401

3 жыл бұрын

Mauser 1877 single shots,I'm pretty sure Ian has done a video on one

@brittakriep2938

3 жыл бұрын

Those weapons had some popularity among german target/ competition shooters and poachers.

@edwalmsley1401

3 жыл бұрын

@@brittakriep2938 I think I would prefer one in combat over a Reich revolver

Similar to the Webley Foster (I think) automatic revolver. It used a similar zig zag pattern on it's cylinder.

@ForgottenWeapons

3 жыл бұрын

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@tomcline5631

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons Yeah thanks! After making that comment,I went to your channel and looked through Webley Fosbery. I was 35 seconds or so into it when you replied!!! Thanks for replying so quickly. Stay safe and healthy

What do you mean by "it would obturate better"? I had to look up obturate, now I know it means "to close, shutter or obstruct" but I still don't understand what you mean.

@ForgottenWeapons

3 жыл бұрын

Obturation is the action of the brass case expanding to seal when the cartridge fires.

@tidge879

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons thank you. 😘

*Mauser Bros* Success is in other designs.

Has anyone ever done a clutch and release bearing on a '95 Nissan D21 before?

@davidbrennan660

3 жыл бұрын

I believe the youngest Mauser brother, Barry Mauser had a patent for a while.

Where is the solid frame review ? You need an example to do one ? Who knows I can help .

Going to make a semiautomatic pistol ..... C78 does not secede. Roll forward a bit, C96 .... a home run.

Hmm, breakaction revolver that breaks upwards rather than down is certainly in interesting choice. Was there a specific reason for this or did it just take a couple production generations of ergonomics design to switch to the break downwards style? I haven't held, fired or reloaded a real revolver (or any real firearm for that matter) in my life, but I'd image that reloading that revolver is a real PITA. Sure enough, with it breaking open to the top the spent cartridges will more or less just fall out (perhaps a design choice since that revolver doesn't seem to have an ejector rod or otherwise a mechanism to punt out empty brass from the cylinder), but then you'd have to hold the whole gun up by the frame/barrel to reload and then swivel the rest back down whilst still holding the frame at least vertical to avoid rounds getting loose and/or falling out the cylinder. A breakaction that swivels down instead seems MUCH more ergonomic: you uphend the entire thing to drop spent cartridges (with or without help of an ejector mechanism), then you can just hold the entire revolver as usual by the handle as you reload the thing and just snap it back against the handle to close, much less fumbling about.

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because you do it like Ian (and most americans) and can't fathom letting go of the pistol grip. Think of it like this. You grip the barrel with your off-hand and use the thumb on that hand to pull the latch. Then with your main hand (the one you normally hold it with to shoot) you flip the grip upwards. Now you got easy access to the cylinder and can easily reload it using your main hand. Then flip the grip back down and grab the pistol grip and you're good to go.

The direction the break action swings kinda makes me feel nerveous.

Just because it fits doesn’t mean it should go in there.

@misterandersson5645

3 жыл бұрын

That's what she said

Didn't webley make a automatic revolver? I think it had some of the same features.

It should have been adopted .A way better sidearm than the Reichsrevolver .

@brendonbewersdorf986

3 жыл бұрын

That is the shame of it this is a super cool revolver and is much more effective than the cludge that is the reichsrevolver (I say this as someone who likes the reichsrevolver)

@oolooo

3 жыл бұрын

The Reichsrevolver should have been designed better .You can make it simple but good .They made it simpletonian and bad .

Looks just like the webley!?

Wonder if it was the patent office Albert Einstein worked at ? For the algorithm.

Hands look like my grandpa's when we found him behind the barn. Not a true story 😆

qwait. is this like the prequel version of the Gasser revolver?

@edwalmsley1401

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

Anyome remember the FAD? Its a Peruvian gun that is vary rare

Historically speaking, how many people did each of these units kill ?

Square cutting the zigzag couldn't have been easy,,round looks fine, so why?

The german Military adopted a gun that was so simple that it impaired its effectiveness while rejecting something which while fancy and expensive at the time would habe been more advanced than contemporary Designs . This is a behaviour the germans would throw out the Window and almost always go with the more advanced sollution . Ironic I must say

In reference to about 7:25 -- the German army passing on the zig zag revolver because it was too complex and they wanted (and got) something very simple: the Reichsrevolver. That must be the last time in German military history when they opted AGAINST the fiendishly complex, over-engineered mechanism in favor of something simple.

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

They used that reichsrevolver and their conclusion was clear and simple. NEVER AGAIN! Next time, we'll go for the more advanced option, even if it's a bit more pricey.

Oh, hey, I know about this one! It loads REALLY weird XD

I'm not a fan of that upward brake action.

@nehcrum

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because you do it like Ian (and most americans) and can't fathom letting go of the pistol grip. Think of it like this. You grip the barrel with your off-hand and use the thumb on that hand to pull the latch. Then with your main hand (the one you normally hold it with to shoot) you flip the grip upwards. Now you got easy access to the cylinder and can easily reload it using your main hand. Then flip the grip back down and grab the pistol grip and you're good to go.

Yay

Ian, have you ever done a video on the Bushmaster Arm Pistol? Or are you scared to review such a magnificent weapon?

I’m just saying in a hypothetical sense, I would marry Ian no homo

Mauser ZigZag is a unique German Pistol.

Video does not say what that zigzag is for.

Wow , the patent Mauser " Zigzag " Revolver !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for showing this very rare Mauser Revolver , Gun Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would case obturation even matter since gas leaks at the cylinder gap anyway?

@rdek99

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing :)

@hailexiao2770

3 жыл бұрын

Gas escaping at the cylinder gap is okay, gas escaping at the rear of the cylinder (or pushing the case back) is not.

@rickb1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@hailexiao2770 Oh yeah? Why not?

@hailexiao2770

3 жыл бұрын

@@rickb1973 You can keep your fingers away from the cylinder gap with proper shooting technique. There is no way to avoid having your hand in line with the rear of the cylinder. Plus a case that gets pushed to the rear can jam the cylinder.

@rickb1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@hailexiao2770 I see what you're thinking, there....But that never actually happens because the path of least resistance is the cylinder gap.