This is probably the coolest concept I've seen in televised poker, actual in hand thought processes of very successful players. It would be amusing to do this with recreational players so we can finally see what goes through their minds.

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

+1 to having recs on. would make for amazing content. "i'm gonna call because i don't think he has it lol"

@keithmason1485

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii Imagine Alan Keating talking through the shit he does? LOL

@kevingu6335

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii Lmao, so true. "I put him on AK."

@johngriller4997

4 жыл бұрын

You can argue Berkey already fits in the rec department 😆

@karlmccormack1078

4 жыл бұрын

U'd hear the wind going through!

Berkey is doing a good service to the winning players if he gets people trying to emulate him

@alectorellishiddenchips1725

3 жыл бұрын

Throughout the series I felt like Christian was cheating as well.. 13:30 - Berkey says villain (Jack) could of floated KQh which he is skeptical of and gives Berkey a look... Because he heard him because they all have noise cancelling headphones on expect him.. Just an observation..

@MrVibeCheck41

3 жыл бұрын

@@alectorellishiddenchips1725 why would Christian cheat at all? What incentive does he even have to do so in this training environment?

@keithkelso9872

Жыл бұрын

Him is a cheater

@keithkelso9872

Жыл бұрын

Chin

"Deep Stacked Punting Through a GTO Lens"

@johngriller4997

4 жыл бұрын

💯 accreate 😂

@GurdeepSingh-tt4tm

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha ya agreed

"I think i have a lot of fold equity" 0.00%

@Josemartinez-es6vj

3 жыл бұрын

an ace should be raising flop

This is how all Poker vids should be: hearing the players thoughts then seeing Equilibrium break down the Optimal plays.

@su2sa1li4

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. More of this

Berkey shoves 2x pot with fd 400bb deep after cold 4bet with T7s preflop. And than says: "just kind of an unfortunate spot". I love the guy!🙂

@HasNoName69

4 жыл бұрын

He is shit player

@209twitch

4 жыл бұрын

People really pay him like 2 grand for S4Y too it's actually quite bewildering

@HasNoName69

4 жыл бұрын

@@209twitch that's good, he provides more fish in da pool

@209twitch

4 жыл бұрын

@@HasNoName69 im so glad for it

@Gos1234567

4 жыл бұрын

Károly Kovacs lol thinking the other is in a flush draw aswell???🤪🤪

This channel might be the best free poker content anywhere. Keep up the good work

@LevelofClarity

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree.

Something hilariously magical about Berkie’s face and dead silence when his villain flipped over AKo.

Completely avoidable spot, utterly and completely avoidable..

Standard cooler

@connman8d617

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you're dealt T7s and just run into AK. What are you going to do? The cards just play themselves in that situation you know?

Moral of the story: don't sign up for "Solve for Why"

Berkey punts off a stack because some guy opens too wide in the HJ. The HJ is probably only losing a few hundred msb while Berkey lost tens of thousands in the hand cause of some noob in the highjack. Keep your exploits mild.

This is by far the best explanation of poker and gto on KZread. Keep it up 👍

nice play i think we should 2x pot shove here 100% of the time

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

y 2x pot shove turn when u can 4x pot flop?

@camaleonsacor1618

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii hahaha. I mean the turn shove is preety bad and his argue is also bad. even on the end he is just talking about 5-6 combos folding to his shove, but he ever argue about the FE needed for his shove (about 66%) and that he will never have that FE is villan calls with AK AQ preflop. I mean just bad play. but nice format xD.

@michaelzhang9805

4 жыл бұрын

he has a polarised range at least half of the merged times hes mixing jam and check

@camaleonsacor1618

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelzhang9805 mmmm. what? xD what is your point?

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

@@camaleonsacor1618 lol, seems like mike has learned some cool new poker terms and just couldn't wait to deploy them to the comment section

Bro I love these break downs!! Y’all are doing a great job keep them coming

Best poker style of video I have seen yet!!

I think one of the biggest problems with the 2x pot shove on the turn is that Jack will never fold an ace here (Ax making a significant proportion of his range) because when he does hold an ace he blocks so many of Berkey's value combos. Thus a larger bet will not generate much extra fold equity with bluffs, but when Berkey does hold an ace going for this size generates a lot more fold equity and doesn't extract as much value, so using this size is nonsensical. Also it's really easy to bluff way too much here with flush draws, especially considering the super out of line cold 4-Bet pre.

@kristofarvay8425

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of words to say what can be summed up in one sentence: Berkey is a whale

@fritzzz1372

2 жыл бұрын

It's just some pretty basic math. For a 2x pot shove. your opponent has to fold 2pot/(pot+2pot)=66.6% of the time at least. Sure, Jack has some flush draws, but not that many.

Just found your channel and binge watching your videos now. Thanks for the great content:)

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

"I put him on AJ and A10." Turn A. "Now I think he has a flush draw." 😂

@reedpetroski7965

4 жыл бұрын

Which I block lolol

@Gos1234567

4 жыл бұрын

Reed Petroski yes that was bizarre to me,he only mentions KQs so he shoves to get rid of one unlikely combo.Could be plenty AK,Aq hands tgere

@thomassauve6385

4 жыл бұрын

When another ace comes, that means there’s that many less aces he could have in his had. Duhhh

@thomassauve6385

4 жыл бұрын

How many aces do you think there are in that deck?

@TheCB94

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously pretty dumb but not as dumb as it might seem. There are a lot fewer combinations of AJ and AT that jack can have once the ace of hearts rolls off, so it becomes much more likely that he has a flush draw.

after watching some more clips of this format from solveforwhy, i can quite honestly say that not only is it subpar content from a learning perspective, but borderline irresponsible by modern training site standards. berkey's hand is only the tip of the spew iceberg. literally in the first hand in the clip linked below, one of the coaches(?) advocates opening K7s under the gun because he specifically wants to induce a 3bet from the button so he can 4bet him back (i'm not making this up). the small blind (nick howard) then proceeds to 3bet T6s from the small blind due to it's "equity driven qualities." brilliant. and the comment section is chalk full of praise from inexperienced players who actually think they're consuming valuable information. in the end, it's up to the viewer to discern whether content is valuable or not, but the amount of egregious plays in that video alone made me want to post this. the "highlight" video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWeFlch9ddfUhcY.html

@Gos1234567

4 жыл бұрын

I agree,on first viewing i found it hilarious,but when you realise people are paying money for this shit I now find it closer to the realm of snakeoil salesmen.Obviously these guys cant beleive all this nonsense unless theyre super stupid which i dont think they are so it has to be just a huge con job.

@Gos1234567

4 жыл бұрын

Its mostly ~Berkey,Christian and Jack doing ridiculous shit,the other three seem ok

@Liquorice38

4 жыл бұрын

Shhhhh, don't let em know that.

@CCCoNeTiMe

4 жыл бұрын

Scary thing is, is that most of the spew iceberg is hidden from view. WTF goes on down there?!?

Amazing show and explanation

This was really interesting, thanks

@5:45, you'd need to node lock the pre ranges to truly know if T7s is not 4bet bluff against an observed dynamic (anyone seen the source clip to know?). Could ask RC to do node locked PF ranges.

Lmao the thumbnail of Matt Claus. Well done

3:52 is lip reading GTO?

This format is great

“Poker Out Loud” is awesome from the hearing the thought process out loud perspective however I’d imagine, just like a timing tell, the more one speaks the more likely their holdings are suspect also changing the dynamic of the game. Actually would be fun as shit to play this way

After hearing Berkey’s thought process and watching a lot of hands that he plays, i can safely he’s nowhere near elite. To me he seems like a spewy bad reg and borderline aggro fish.

@AustinHammy32

4 жыл бұрын

Nah man. He's just not GTO as most players aren't. That's pretty standard given he's made millions playing live. He's great at exploiting live play. But you may be right that he's not elite. Either way, he's certainly an overall winning player.

@switters8679

4 жыл бұрын

@@AustinHammy32 You might want to do a little more research. Just a heads up.

@MrVibeCheck41

3 жыл бұрын

Berkey is by far elite and you must not know anything if you didn’t learn anything from him but that your a jelly fat old reg yourself

final analisis from berkey: jack could have j10 off diamond here :D

More of this solve for the why videos please

First, absolutely fantastic video. My new favorite poker channel. Second, why does the solver at 12:28 have us raising ~90% with AcKh and ~3% with AsKh? There aren't any spades or clubs on the board, so why such a huge disparity?

@L4zEGaming

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good question, did you end up figuring out the answer?

@qwertz12345654321

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like solver noise... this might take a while to converge

Nice video! Why do you think CO is flatting some hands (instead of playing 3b/fold) in the 2:46 solution? Is it because of the decreased stack size? Or rake effects? I assume the rake in this solution is lower than in the first 500z solution?

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

Likely rake. If there is a rake I'm guessing there will be a lot less flatting.

@johngriller4997

4 жыл бұрын

Great question Yang! To Finding Equilibrium: Even with rake, which strategy do you think it’s superior, mixed or 3b/fold only? And which one would you recommend or play yourself?

“I’m gonna give the fake look back to see if my ace possesses a heart and then I’m gonna be all in.” LOL. The ace of hearts is on the board.

@MaydayAggro

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed this too. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he meant the off card.

anyone know where I can find footage of this game?

outstanding thought process from matt berkey. Everyone should listen to this guy and reap the rewards.

@johngriller4997

4 жыл бұрын

Lol? Is this sarcasm?

@peteradam2600

4 жыл бұрын

I hope so :D

@CipherSerpico

4 жыл бұрын

God I hope it’s sarcasm. The way it’s worded is just too funny.

Love how he tries to justify his play at the end haha

You run these streets finding equilibrium!!!!!

Love this video

Why does the solver fold 88-1010 to a 4 bet but call all the other pairs? Or did I read it wrong

Why did he switch to PioSolver post flop?

This video is so good, I came

Can’t the black dude hear everybody with Apple earphones?

@jordanlandsaw7263

4 жыл бұрын

Yoshi IKR?

@amalguptan6716

4 жыл бұрын

Music plays while waiting

@Seadevil910

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he's a POS

When they mentioned Jack I thought for a moment they were talking about the jack card :-).

I love this channel

Nice to see Jackson’s face on here. I met him in 2017 when he was playing 1/2 live and easily took all my money and everyone else’s too🤣. Wasn’t hard to spot he was the best 1/2 player I had come across... and then he suggested I listen to his podcast🤣🤣

The thing that triggers me is that if a diamond comes in the river he would be like "See? everything I did was perfect and my logic is next level" PS: Your Chanel is amazing man !

Does jack have a training site?

In the 3bet spot. is it correct to raise or Fold Ako and Fold Aq? or would some flatting be allowed? Reason for asking is I see that tendency of flatting AK in my local area, together with other holdings. so if first player shoves, they have a flat 3bet range which can call the 4b, and even 5bet if the 3bettor calls the 4bet..... I feel this is weird, I don't flat 3bets against two uncapped ranges, not in or out of position. I would really like to know how to do that in a balanced way, if it makes sense to do so.!

@209twitch

4 жыл бұрын

flatting can be allowed if you think they open too tight and especially if the players behind you are very unlikely to squeeze

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of this will depend on the positions. If you get 3bet by early position the solver will fold some AKo and flat some AKs and most AQo are folding. However, with rake you should be much less inclined to flat.

I hope Charlie Carrel watched this video. GTO 1-0 Exploitative.

@keithmason1485

4 жыл бұрын

Considering the success both Berkey and Charlie have had I'd say they've had plenty of wins being exploitative.

@Demondoink1

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithmason1485 no question, but they were not playing vs players who were playing a somewhat GTO strategy. the game has evolved in recent years. why do you think both guys have brought out training sites and focused on expanding them, instead of grinding poker?

@joelmcc88

4 жыл бұрын

2 different sides of the same coin you dufus

@Demondoink1

4 жыл бұрын

@@joelmcc88 dk why the dufus is necessary lol. no they are not, slight deviations from optimal are necessary to do well at poker. MASSIVE DEVIATIONS are definitely not. you can see perfectly here how one mistake pre-flop (the cold 4bet with T7s) compounded in to a multitude of errors and ended in him punting off over 300 big with 20% equity. it's honestly so easy to play vs guys like this once you have a grasp of GTO, they just completely punt off in tons of spots and they are effectively fish. the guy Berkey was playing against was making slight tweaks to his strategy (for example calling more often with AK pre to play IP vs wider/weaker range) and this is definitely how to approach GTO/exploitative poker. Berkey just cold 4bet cos he had a random hand that he wanted to call an open with, then pretty much decided on the flop he was gonna go with this hand, regardless of the run out. there's not really much thought process here, just button clicking. the other guy should own the training site instead lol.

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

@@Demondoink1 while i'm sure his training site offers some value, in the days of the solver, i for one am glad there's at least some counterweight to the amazing content put out on rio :) (i've seen you post there)

Berkley: How could he call with AK AAxx board, i could have boat!!!

I really really dislike the shove on the turn. We already picked a low frequency candidate to 4bet pre, now we’re shoving with only a semi decent draw after the top card pairs? I don’t understand the reasoning for this.

Berkey was just total off here trying to justify his punt even more in hindsight 😂

Berkey is wildin

As a side note, it would be cool if you actually include the date and year of the hand analyzed. This hand was from 2 years ago ( not 100% sure)

fear equity xD love it

I think even Berkey and SolveForWhy would tell you that T7s is a fold lol. I think a lot of people are forgetting he is trying to create content for his site. He has even made comments that if you're looking for fundamentals or ranges this is not the content for you. But if you'd like to hear some varying, real-time thoughts this is. So because of that Berkey and others were finding excuses to play hands to create content.

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure they were playing looser for the cameras. Even in this video Berkey said he should fold.

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

i don't get it. what's the point of purposely misplaying hands for content for a training site?

@SteveRay911

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii click bait

@Killian_757

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii Because the emphasis isn't on the hand itself but the thought processes that go through ones head in-game. And as a second layer to review those thoughts and decide what's good and what's bad.

I like this a lot (:

I’m assuming that if berkey had a normal 4betting range he would cbet 1/4-1/3 with range on that flop?

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

I am thinking it will be either a small bet or check. In 3bet + pots even strong underpocket pairs will frequently fold to one sizable bet.

great analysis. Berkey is great at giving his thoughts on this series but this hand gives a notion that he got sticky with his "fancy play" ideas and then tried to base it on some wild assumptions after Jack called. An "unfortunate spot" was more like a "bad analysis" based on Jack's profile. Even the great ones slip up.

is berkey wearing Marleys shirt?

Really interesting to see some so-called "pros" to think and play poker so poorly. "My shove served me well." How the hell he could persuade himself like this?

@d1ssolv3r

Жыл бұрын

different story if that diamond came out

👍👍 You did an incredible job on this video man this channel is pure poker theory porn 🤓

There is another hand in this video series between Nick Howard and Matt Berkey, where Berkey induces a shove by Nick and it works. The whole idea behind it and how two very smart players interact with each other is fascinating. Maybe you can take a look at that hand as well?

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

I may not be able to post a vid next week but I'll take a look. Thanks!

Deep stacked spew through a camera lens. People play strangely when being filmed.

Jamming with the Td too 😭

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

would you prefer to have less outs when called?

@YayaTourney

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonsenseiii These people aren't playing to win

I ran into the top his range

These solvers are welcome in my games anytime if at 7:58 they are folding 9s and 10s 50% of the time to a small raise pre flop lol.

i feel like this jam is just gonna make villain's life really easy by allowing him to play pretty much perfectly against the shove. it's not like population will make big mistakes in this node: draws will have an easy snapfold, and the only hands that will be put in a "tough spot" will be AJs/ATs which should eventually find a call anyway. maybe there's some epic metagame between the two, but regardless there's just not much room for jack to make a huge blunder given this line. just seems far from the most optimal line to take, and it's not surprising to see the large discrepancy in ev between checking (+92) and shoving (-150) in the solution.

@Harbz

4 жыл бұрын

AugustasB AJ and AT definitely don’t have to find a call here

@euanswan7187

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, exactly this. Didn't realise berkey was such a fish. Literally makes the guys life as easy as possible.

@nonsenseiii

4 жыл бұрын

@@Harbz imgur.com/a/IQumgpe (same ranges and sizings used in the sim) as you can see, solver is calling all Ax combos. you can start to consider folding vs the nittiest players, but against berkey, who obviously has an expanded range here and with the board being as drawy as it is, folding any ace would be criminal.

@willlowry8313

4 жыл бұрын

Allowing the villain to play perfectly means they are folding out all worse hands and only continuing with better. This is not the case. Berkeys shove attains fold equity from many better combos. The ‘metagame’ you’re referring to is indeed playing out in front of you.

@euanswan7187

4 жыл бұрын

@@willlowry8313 No, that is not what 'playing perfectly; means in this instance.

wait jack just 'just hands podcast'???!!!

Wtf is that nitty comment before he calls about though?

Man, Jack loves to lick his chops eh! hahah

Berkey top tier punter

I get so tilted just seeing soto with basic ear buds on during these

how can he have JT when you have T?

Good example of how GTO can get you in trouble.

@erodixius3438

Жыл бұрын

you think cold 4 betting 10 7 suited is GTO?

I feel that his thought process was that his opponent can have QK, QJ diamonds & as well as JK & 10J that is trying to catch. Based on his bet sizing 2/3 on the flop and a flat, We can rule out with JQ, JK, 10J even with the backdoor hearts draw. His opponent range is capped after his opponent calls on the flop, which has QK, QJ Diamonds, 2 Combi of A2 and 2 Combi of A5, Pocket 9s, Js, Qs,Ks., AQclubs, AQ spades, 8 Combi of AK. There are too many hands that he is losing out. And any combis of A will not shoved a 2x pot on the turn. There is also a high tendency that the opponent calls with 99s+ to bluff catch with an exploitative read. The best way to take down this put if he is persistent on his read that his opponent has a higher fd (Qkds, QJds), is to either bet a 2/3 pot on the turn and give up the river. Or bet 1/4 on the turn and river go for a overpot jam. This probably has a higher Ev. The way he played is better off with a short start effective stack of 150 to 200bbs. His 4Bs 710suited from the big blinds is the no.1 mistake from the start. I hate how he thinks that it was unfortunate that he had Ak which is one of the top of his range, instead of acknowledging that is definitely a bad play. However, i really enjoy this types of videos which we can hear the thought process of these players!

Ah, the chat pros straightening out Berkey again.

Final analysis: "So, I think that it's interesting that Berkey had the 107 of diamond here (...)"

Man I knew I should be 4 betting 10 7 suited. Wow I’m such an idiot. Now I can win at poker 😂

I wanted to see if you could answer a questions I have: Why does online seem almost bingo like with massive aggression with all in's everywhere but live is far less so? I play only live cash and the online tournament videos I watch completely baffle me. EX: KJ off at under the gun plus 1, all in. It just seems the style makes variance awful. If anyone can explain I would greatly appreciate it. Again,, I don't play online or tournaments online so I am a bit naive.

Everyone calling Berkey an idiot while playng .10-.25 online. Not a fan of his reasoning but you cant call the man an idiot, hes obviously more successful than 99% of the poker community

Its almost comical how Matt had wrong predictions on every single spot

Sometimes 10 7 suited runs into AKo, that’s poker

Geeze... Berkey just took a clear fold preflop and basically jammed into the nuts. I think his bread and butter was the fake-look at this cards. I’ve seen bad plays by pros but this is just not even necessary. If he eliminated ego-plays like this, he would win more in the long run.

you guys all seem to be forgetting this is live poker. You don't have to be as balanced as online poker since the sheer volume of hands played live is way smaller. People don't have the data on you that forces you to play a more gto style. Plus the fact that no one in real life is playing anything close to what PIU does anyway. Everyone is playing a exploitative style. An playing through exploits makes your win rate way higher than playing online. Live players don't counter your exploits the way online players do. This changes as you move up in live stakes though. Interesting to read these comments as all the viewers seem to still be watching trhough the lens that GTO and PIU is the only way to play.

My game is entirely crafted to prevent things like this from happening to me. Hahaha. But what do I know? I play $2-5

Probably need at least 300 buy ins tp play this maniac style.

I love your videos but I saw one video of MMASherdog (tough HS reg) critizing your ranges for the anallysis. So...

@YayaTourney

4 жыл бұрын

Who cares. Only thing that matters is he prefaces with the ranges used.

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

Which video? He asked me to collaborate with him so they can't be that bad. Also pretty much everything I say is based on what the solver is doing so it's tough to criticize a calculator. Maybe he is saying in reality people don't play those ranges and he would know better than I.

@adrianoalves20

4 жыл бұрын

Finding Equilibrium I mean that he said the ranges you inserted messes up the development of the hands. Can’t remember which one from the top of my head but he doesn’t have many in his channel bluff the spot I guess.

@kvnd7331

4 жыл бұрын

@@FindingEquilibrium it was a video from a tournament and featured Linus Love. I think it was a sb limp vs bb hand. MMA said you gave him a raising range when he should be/probably is limping everything iirc He commented on the hand by muting your video and giving his own commentary about the hand he didn't really say anything about you just to ignore the ranges they're wrong

@FindingEquilibrium

4 жыл бұрын

Well he's right in the sense that if the input ranges are wrong it will affect the entire post-flop strategy. I never claim to be an expert at preflop (or anything for that matter). I am just analyzing the solver strategies for the spots, which I think is still useful to understand counter-strategies. However he is a top pro so he would have a much better idea of what people play in reality.

2:50 why is 98s always folding ?

@Azar1571

4 жыл бұрын

And 54s often calling or 3betting

@johnyl6926

4 жыл бұрын

Because 89s always gets stacked on TJQ boards versus AK which is always in his range

@Azar1571

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnyl6926 unlikely run out

@johnyl6926

4 жыл бұрын

Jean Guy but these small differences influence range decisions

@gastonangelini8352

4 жыл бұрын

Card removal effect. Medium suited connectors will suffer vs ranges broadway heavy when the other player will block most of your outs to make premium hands. Better is defend low SCs (32 43 54 65) when your outs will not be blocked by villain's range

🏈

Berkey is 4-betting small to look "suspicious" so he doesn't get 5-bet off his gapper.

Rofl! Oh my god

Berkey is way off here on his betting. Just between AK-AT there are 32 combos. His FDs amount at most to 10-12 combos. So put in some pairs.... 42 combos. Now put in Axs 2 pairs = 5. Now sets = 9... Axs no FD = ~15 combos Calling range here is 61 Folding combos = ~54. His overshove is way too much AND this is a 4b bet which REALLY narrows down the caller's range. Very likely he has less FDs than I listed. Also Berkey's bet is very polarizing. Berkey has most of the FDs in this case which are amount 20. Would he shove the turn with KK or AA? No. So what's he got left? Not a boat. So we are looking at 6 sets 20 FDs, and what? Axs hands? A better play is a smaller bet. He can rep a 4, 3, the FD of course. But his large flop bet got him in this spot. For those mocking Berkey don't. There is something to learn from his style. Like anything including older poker books some of the plays do apply in certain spots. I do not know if he makes his money on poker or on teaching poker. I'd be curious.

Now it's working

Berkey plays worse than his students.

Shit man if you're going to play it that bad just go all-in pre over his 3bet - it's probably torching less EV.

The guy with the earbuds is cheating.

Let’s call a spade a spade here. Matt Berkley is a fish. I don’t mean he sucks at poker. I mean he sucks massively considering the players he wants to go up against. This hand just shows how poor Matts optimal poker game is. Can you imagine what someone like LinusLove would do to Matt without even getting out of first gear? It’s actually a great lesson to any poker player out there. If your game is built around gto fundamentals you will find it very very hard to lose money playing poker.

more like matt bulky

it'a a horrible shove on the turn...no amount of reasoning and justification can prove it is even close to right