MATCO HYPER-STEP DRILL BITS 1YR REVIEW AND I FOUND A ISSUE!!
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@asmautollc3 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting point about the tapered tip having to go farther. I waited for the 29 piece cobalt set to come out, and have been impressed with it. Have drilled through some hard steel and they have not dulled. I’d still bet on the industrial USA bits like Viking / Norseman being the best overall bits, but that self centering / non-walking of the hyper step is sweet. Plus the warranty.
@upnorth54653 жыл бұрын
Got both my sets for 250 each from my dealer. He always has a full set set aside for out shop for warranty. We are a fabrication shop and drill 50-200 holes a day. Love these bits. They do get dull just like any other bit but oil goes a long way. We ended up getting all the way to 3/4 in these as well. They are expensive but we have warrantied out enough to already pay for themselves for sure. The thing we like most about them is the true perfect circular hole you get with them and they dont snag on steel.
@TurningsbyTurner3 жыл бұрын
So true about the right bit for the right job. Most of my craft projects involving wood and/or acrylic drilling needs Brad Points or Forstners bits. My metal work etc. drill bits are a whole different animal! Also cheap bits heat up faster the quality ones from what I have noticed! Take care CP!
@johnbadal73193 жыл бұрын
Good point, no pun intended, the steps take up a good bit of depth, no pun intended. i'll reserve the hypersteps for when i have to go all the way through and not to a critical depth. I love my corded mid handle DeWalt DWD215 for drilling. It doesnt have a brake on it like the cordless though so if you get hung up you break your wrist. id let my colleagues use my bits if they were more like Brian actually making chip curls and not going full speed
@ratherbeflying1013 жыл бұрын
Start off with the hyperstep, finish with the split point. Also, if possible, know your bit depth ahead of time, then mask off the safe depth point around the bit so you dont over drill to deep.
@chrisrichardson245111 ай бұрын
Cp I have a issue with my hyper steps blueing I’m running a Milwaukee fuel on low gear and or a 1/2 Matco air drill running about 500 rpm I’m using stick lube as well I can get about 25 holes drilled and the tip is burnt/ blue HELP lol
@CPthetooladdict
11 ай бұрын
Drill magic oil
@jonathanhouwers4390 Жыл бұрын
That's and excellent observation. Thanks for that. I do drill alot of manifold studs always wait for the drill bit to push through. That's not going to happen with a stepped drill bit tip.
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Ya its a bad day if you don't pay attention lol
@charlesabbott55633 жыл бұрын
First off Mr. CP why do mechanics refuse to use a cutting fluid or a 50/50 water to soap to keep your bits from over heating as an ex-machinist I laugh when mechanics complain about their bits dulling. As for the over drilling that is on your so called professional technician.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Hypersteps don't do any better with oil I've never seen anyone use oil on a step drill bit normally I use marvel mystery oil...
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
Watch Abomb79 he rarely uses oil or coolant while machining is that any different on mill or lathe vs drill? I always thought you use coolant even with carbide??? If you don’t know who he is watch his channel he gives a lot of great set up and technique info. Very easy to blow 25/35 min before you even know it on his vids. Old school. No CNC.
@charlesabbott5563
3 жыл бұрын
@@ducatiparts966 I worked for precision steel and welding, in my shop I operated a horizontal lathe, 2 end mills and 2 drill presses all built in the late 30's by Cincinnati. I built heavy equipment parts for Cat, John Deere, Jcb, Case with less than a millimeter to a half millimeter tolerances. I did it then and do it now the way I was taught by a gentleman who did it for over 55 years but I will check out his channel.
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesabbott5563 I was only recommending his channel because you may find it interesting not about the coolant/lubrication issue.
@jasonwaldon7438
3 жыл бұрын
@@ducatiparts966 I've been a machinist for almost 20 years , manual and cnc machinist. Its ALWAYS better to use a cutting oil when machining or drilling. Coolant is mainly used in CNC where the coolant spray can be contained. But when drilling, manual milling, turning, ext it's always recommended to use cutting fluid
@The_Farm_Tech_3 жыл бұрын
I like the old school drill bits.. if they get dull or broken.. I just sharp the tip and make a new tip.. my drill bit always sharp.. this matco drill bits are nice but if they get dull or broken you need to warranty
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Very true that's why I will always have 3 sets of drill bits lol
@agtech45803 жыл бұрын
Great point I never really thought about that aspect of the bits I have a couple other drill bit sets though I like my hyperstep bits but I don’t think they would work for broken bolts
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Unless it's a complete drill through they suck for that!! Lol
@85jmccoy3 жыл бұрын
What up cp??? Love the videos man and your energy brother keep it up!
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@brianemery89452 жыл бұрын
I.just bought these and I'm in love
@Bigknobrat3 жыл бұрын
What temp CP? Getting down to 3/4 degree's c here during the day and it's cold. Hate working with cold hands, any bang feels 10x worse.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Today it was warm 60° f when I filmed this it was low 20s lol
@dozer80652 жыл бұрын
i use a old blue/yellow ryobi from probly almost 15-20 yrs ago with the new lithium batts, my co workers ask me all the time why i dont buy a new drill, shit this one works great and i have 2 for backup, anyhow it atleast gets borrowed once a week and used over a dewalt!
@CPthetooladdict
2 жыл бұрын
Thats not a surprise to me the old stuff still has its place!!
@tonytooltime53733 жыл бұрын
How about Sharpening the HyperSteps?
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I've addressed that other times and because they have warranty I don't sharpen most my bits hell half the time the smaller ones break before they go dull lol
@luketrochinski39543 жыл бұрын
Hello, CP is there a way we can email you or online chat possibly? Have some tool topics to discuss...
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Chadxr650@gmail.com
@BrentVdz9073 жыл бұрын
That dewalt drill wasnt available 20 years ago with a lithium. Haha but i love your enthusiasm about tools and enjoy watching.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Who said anything about it being lithium? 🤔🤔
@BrentVdz907
3 жыл бұрын
I was just saying that drill takes there new batteries which diddnt exist 20yrs ago from dewalt. I am biased though, ive seen a done of dewalt stuff break. The shop i work of bought a bunch of dewalt cordless tools and so far the work lights and the grease gun are the only things not to break.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha makes sense I thought maybe I said that lol I fumbled words before lol
@shinkle10003 жыл бұрын
Excellent info brother
@paulmendenhall52263 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you don't use any cutting oil how long will they last like that
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Read the comments already been addressed
@joelopez40oz233 жыл бұрын
Your co worker has good drilling technique. What model number is your. Milwaukee drill?
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's the 2504-80 but I'm not 100% sure the exact model number it does a good job! www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-with-2-0-Ah-Battery-and-Bag-2504-21/311914120
@joelopez40oz23
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict thanks
@Jeff-rk8hq Жыл бұрын
Hey cp have you ever heard of knkut step point drills? They’re a US based company been around since the 80s I’ve always an when Matco first released the hyper step I wondered if they were made by knkut didn’t know if you’d had any clue about the manufacturer
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Kin kut drill hog norsemam ya I know them all
@Jeff-rk8hq
Жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict are they the same does anything set matcos version apart?
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Yes the cobalt are true cobalt not hss with a coating
@sbkarmen3 жыл бұрын
Love drillin’! 🤪
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Are you back on the drill team now? Lol
@pakliv32433 жыл бұрын
Wow ... Keep on tools
@johnb472013 жыл бұрын
No cutting oil or lube
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think these really do well with cutting oil.
@ducatiparts9663 жыл бұрын
You switch to a flat bottom bit. It’s not the bits fault guy should have marked his depth. If he kept drilling with a regular bit he would have gone thru too. So go 80% and finish with a flat bit and use a bottoming tap
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't blaming the bit was bringing awareness lol How can you measure a unknown depth?? interested in that reply!!
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict I guess if you know how long the stud is then you subtract the broken part from the length of the new stud. Remove another one and measured the depth of the hole? If you don’t know the depth then you would drill thru with whatever bit you were using.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Broken bolts I'd be leery of using these bits in unknown depth situations that's probably the better way I should have worked it they drill great but fail to hit all check Mark's unfortunately as the ultimate bit!!
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict not trying to cause an argument but your title is found an issue with the hyper step. I see it as an operator issue. Bits fid their job and yes it’s good to remind people that’s the full width hole is not full width the complete depth but I think the guy drilling that hole would have drilled to China no matter what but he was using. So for him to give you shit about recommending them is BS. They did their job just as you told him they would, he needs to think more about what he is doing. They are good bits I like them and use them often.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't take it that way man I'm sorry lol I was just passing along some good info these bits have there downsides and work on limited situations is all! ❤❤❤❤ I got nothing but love for you man!!
@niteninja01333 жыл бұрын
Bought the hyperstep bits and was disappointed. My buddies irwins and my Mac bits drill alot faster
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I've never really had a issue but I've never done a side by side comparison
@niteninja0133
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict be a great video idea
@Ram2253spd3 жыл бұрын
I think this is where common sense has to come into play with right tool for the job. Not really a product flaw IMO. Expensive mistake which hopefully this video brings light to the obvious issue and why most people don’t have only one set of drill bits.
@mritron7649
2 жыл бұрын
If it was a blind hole and now a threaded open hole into a water port I suppose the bolt threads could just be sealed like and other open holes into coolent passage.
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That’s an interesting point about the tapered tip having to go farther. I waited for the 29 piece cobalt set to come out, and have been impressed with it. Have drilled through some hard steel and they have not dulled. I’d still bet on the industrial USA bits like Viking / Norseman being the best overall bits, but that self centering / non-walking of the hyper step is sweet. Plus the warranty.
Got both my sets for 250 each from my dealer. He always has a full set set aside for out shop for warranty. We are a fabrication shop and drill 50-200 holes a day. Love these bits. They do get dull just like any other bit but oil goes a long way. We ended up getting all the way to 3/4 in these as well. They are expensive but we have warrantied out enough to already pay for themselves for sure. The thing we like most about them is the true perfect circular hole you get with them and they dont snag on steel.
So true about the right bit for the right job. Most of my craft projects involving wood and/or acrylic drilling needs Brad Points or Forstners bits. My metal work etc. drill bits are a whole different animal! Also cheap bits heat up faster the quality ones from what I have noticed! Take care CP!
Good point, no pun intended, the steps take up a good bit of depth, no pun intended. i'll reserve the hypersteps for when i have to go all the way through and not to a critical depth. I love my corded mid handle DeWalt DWD215 for drilling. It doesnt have a brake on it like the cordless though so if you get hung up you break your wrist. id let my colleagues use my bits if they were more like Brian actually making chip curls and not going full speed
Start off with the hyperstep, finish with the split point. Also, if possible, know your bit depth ahead of time, then mask off the safe depth point around the bit so you dont over drill to deep.
Cp I have a issue with my hyper steps blueing I’m running a Milwaukee fuel on low gear and or a 1/2 Matco air drill running about 500 rpm I’m using stick lube as well I can get about 25 holes drilled and the tip is burnt/ blue HELP lol
@CPthetooladdict
11 ай бұрын
Drill magic oil
That's and excellent observation. Thanks for that. I do drill alot of manifold studs always wait for the drill bit to push through. That's not going to happen with a stepped drill bit tip.
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Ya its a bad day if you don't pay attention lol
First off Mr. CP why do mechanics refuse to use a cutting fluid or a 50/50 water to soap to keep your bits from over heating as an ex-machinist I laugh when mechanics complain about their bits dulling. As for the over drilling that is on your so called professional technician.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Hypersteps don't do any better with oil I've never seen anyone use oil on a step drill bit normally I use marvel mystery oil...
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
Watch Abomb79 he rarely uses oil or coolant while machining is that any different on mill or lathe vs drill? I always thought you use coolant even with carbide??? If you don’t know who he is watch his channel he gives a lot of great set up and technique info. Very easy to blow 25/35 min before you even know it on his vids. Old school. No CNC.
@charlesabbott5563
3 жыл бұрын
@@ducatiparts966 I worked for precision steel and welding, in my shop I operated a horizontal lathe, 2 end mills and 2 drill presses all built in the late 30's by Cincinnati. I built heavy equipment parts for Cat, John Deere, Jcb, Case with less than a millimeter to a half millimeter tolerances. I did it then and do it now the way I was taught by a gentleman who did it for over 55 years but I will check out his channel.
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesabbott5563 I was only recommending his channel because you may find it interesting not about the coolant/lubrication issue.
@jasonwaldon7438
3 жыл бұрын
@@ducatiparts966 I've been a machinist for almost 20 years , manual and cnc machinist. Its ALWAYS better to use a cutting oil when machining or drilling. Coolant is mainly used in CNC where the coolant spray can be contained. But when drilling, manual milling, turning, ext it's always recommended to use cutting fluid
I like the old school drill bits.. if they get dull or broken.. I just sharp the tip and make a new tip.. my drill bit always sharp.. this matco drill bits are nice but if they get dull or broken you need to warranty
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Very true that's why I will always have 3 sets of drill bits lol
Great point I never really thought about that aspect of the bits I have a couple other drill bit sets though I like my hyperstep bits but I don’t think they would work for broken bolts
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Unless it's a complete drill through they suck for that!! Lol
What up cp??? Love the videos man and your energy brother keep it up!
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
I.just bought these and I'm in love
What temp CP? Getting down to 3/4 degree's c here during the day and it's cold. Hate working with cold hands, any bang feels 10x worse.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Today it was warm 60° f when I filmed this it was low 20s lol
i use a old blue/yellow ryobi from probly almost 15-20 yrs ago with the new lithium batts, my co workers ask me all the time why i dont buy a new drill, shit this one works great and i have 2 for backup, anyhow it atleast gets borrowed once a week and used over a dewalt!
@CPthetooladdict
2 жыл бұрын
Thats not a surprise to me the old stuff still has its place!!
How about Sharpening the HyperSteps?
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I've addressed that other times and because they have warranty I don't sharpen most my bits hell half the time the smaller ones break before they go dull lol
Hello, CP is there a way we can email you or online chat possibly? Have some tool topics to discuss...
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Chadxr650@gmail.com
That dewalt drill wasnt available 20 years ago with a lithium. Haha but i love your enthusiasm about tools and enjoy watching.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Who said anything about it being lithium? 🤔🤔
@BrentVdz907
3 жыл бұрын
I was just saying that drill takes there new batteries which diddnt exist 20yrs ago from dewalt. I am biased though, ive seen a done of dewalt stuff break. The shop i work of bought a bunch of dewalt cordless tools and so far the work lights and the grease gun are the only things not to break.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha makes sense I thought maybe I said that lol I fumbled words before lol
Excellent info brother
I noticed that you don't use any cutting oil how long will they last like that
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Read the comments already been addressed
Your co worker has good drilling technique. What model number is your. Milwaukee drill?
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's the 2504-80 but I'm not 100% sure the exact model number it does a good job! www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-with-2-0-Ah-Battery-and-Bag-2504-21/311914120
@joelopez40oz23
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict thanks
Hey cp have you ever heard of knkut step point drills? They’re a US based company been around since the 80s I’ve always an when Matco first released the hyper step I wondered if they were made by knkut didn’t know if you’d had any clue about the manufacturer
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Kin kut drill hog norsemam ya I know them all
@Jeff-rk8hq
Жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict are they the same does anything set matcos version apart?
@CPthetooladdict
Жыл бұрын
Yes the cobalt are true cobalt not hss with a coating
Love drillin’! 🤪
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Are you back on the drill team now? Lol
Wow ... Keep on tools
No cutting oil or lube
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think these really do well with cutting oil.
You switch to a flat bottom bit. It’s not the bits fault guy should have marked his depth. If he kept drilling with a regular bit he would have gone thru too. So go 80% and finish with a flat bit and use a bottoming tap
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't blaming the bit was bringing awareness lol How can you measure a unknown depth?? interested in that reply!!
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict I guess if you know how long the stud is then you subtract the broken part from the length of the new stud. Remove another one and measured the depth of the hole? If you don’t know the depth then you would drill thru with whatever bit you were using.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Broken bolts I'd be leery of using these bits in unknown depth situations that's probably the better way I should have worked it they drill great but fail to hit all check Mark's unfortunately as the ultimate bit!!
@ducatiparts966
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict not trying to cause an argument but your title is found an issue with the hyper step. I see it as an operator issue. Bits fid their job and yes it’s good to remind people that’s the full width hole is not full width the complete depth but I think the guy drilling that hole would have drilled to China no matter what but he was using. So for him to give you shit about recommending them is BS. They did their job just as you told him they would, he needs to think more about what he is doing. They are good bits I like them and use them often.
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't take it that way man I'm sorry lol I was just passing along some good info these bits have there downsides and work on limited situations is all! ❤❤❤❤ I got nothing but love for you man!!
Bought the hyperstep bits and was disappointed. My buddies irwins and my Mac bits drill alot faster
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
I've never really had a issue but I've never done a side by side comparison
@niteninja0133
3 жыл бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict be a great video idea
I think this is where common sense has to come into play with right tool for the job. Not really a product flaw IMO. Expensive mistake which hopefully this video brings light to the obvious issue and why most people don’t have only one set of drill bits.
@mritron7649
2 жыл бұрын
If it was a blind hole and now a threaded open hole into a water port I suppose the bolt threads could just be sealed like and other open holes into coolent passage.
That had to suck drilling into a water jacket 😞😞😞
@CPthetooladdict
3 жыл бұрын
Expensive mistake lol