Masters of the Air Part Four First Time Watching! TV Reaction!!

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Masters of the Air
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  • @518outdoors6
    @518outdoors65 ай бұрын

    “Like a vegan”…I spit my drink out. 😂

  • @HikingPNW
    @HikingPNW5 ай бұрын

    There were a lot of subtle clues that the person was not an American. 1) When they zoomed in him writing the date he put down day/month/year which is normal to everybody except Americans who put down month/day/year. Hard to describe this one, but most Americans write their 6's and 9's with a circle and straight line where many Germans will have the circle but will curve the straight line. 2) It was common to get them to sing the national anthem since most Americans can't sing the whole thing without messing up or start humming the rest whereas a lot of German spies learned the whole thing and this guy was singing it loudly almost trying to prove he knew it. When he sang the whole thing it would look weird since most Americans can't. Also, the Star Spangled Banner has word usages that are not how normal people speak but more of a poetic form. When the German spy was singing, he says "Just how proudly we hail" when the actual lyrics are "What so proudly we hailed". The words make sense to use there but it would be weird for an American to switch to those words since it just sounds off. 3) Another common question was to ask a baseball question like who won the pennant last year or who played for who. 4) Asking questions about locations was common as well. The Germans knew they flew in from England but not exactly where in England so they would study major key locations to prepare to spy in case they were questioned they could answer. Like one of the guys pointed out, he never had a chance to see London because you would have to have weekend pass to get there and back but he never had a chance which was common. The spy likely answered the London questioned and described what London was like from what he had researched. It was never a situation where you messed up once and they thought you were a spy, it was a combination of mistakes that would convince them.

  • @DerOberfeldwebel

    @DerOberfeldwebel

    5 ай бұрын

    The dangers of being overprepared.

  • @bigmikem1578

    @bigmikem1578

    5 ай бұрын

    also the way he puffed up his chest to proudly sing it. How Germans would. Most Americans just kinda go through the motions when singing like when we were kids.

  • @ryanhampson673

    @ryanhampson673

    4 ай бұрын

    The lighter was the final clue, it was an Austrian lighter. American crews would have had a zippo.

  • @JakeM794
    @JakeM7945 ай бұрын

    Just like soldiers of Band of Brothers and the marines of The Pacific, the airmen portrayed in the series were real people. Thank you for the reaction!

  • @Robalogot
    @Robalogot5 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy the people of the resistance finally get the recognition they deserve in a show/movie like this. They're often overlooked

  • @jakesanchez7235

    @jakesanchez7235

    5 ай бұрын

    You should look up what French General Leclerc did when some SS Charlemagne were captured by allied forces. That shit was based as hell.

  • @matthewgreenfield360

    @matthewgreenfield360

    5 ай бұрын

    I totally agree. This isn't really a resistance organisation though, it is an escape line, these are two very different things. Most escape lines dealt exclusively in helping airmen to escape and didn't deal with activity you'd normally associate with resistance (e.g. blowing up trains). There's a classic 1970s BBC series called "Secret Army" (which is available on KZread) which portrays a fictitious escape line, and is heavily based on the Comet Line which helped almost 800 Allied airmen to escape. I highly recommend it.

  • @lyndoncmp5751

    @lyndoncmp5751

    5 ай бұрын

    Shame the RAF doesnt get any respect.

  • @RJKookie

    @RJKookie

    5 ай бұрын

    “Unsurrendered 2: The Hunters ROTC Guerrillas” is one resistance movement of WW2 that should be more widely known. Also the memoir of Florence Finch is an incredibly inspiring and gripping story of a war widow turned resistance fighter during the Japanese occupation in the Philippines.

  • @GrimonprezB

    @GrimonprezB

    5 ай бұрын

    Sooo true! My granpa was in belgian resistance then at the end of the war he was on front. He told me some "missions" but not the...hardest to tell.

  • @andreraymond6860
    @andreraymond68605 ай бұрын

    Donald Miller starts his book with the story of Egan getting the news of Cleven being shot down. He then gets into a description of how the air war was different than the ground war. There was no 'front line' no defined 'battlefield'. When someone disappears you didn't know their fate. Were they dead or alive? Aircrews juat knew the others didn't come back from a mission There were no bodies to bury. It made it very difficult for the survivors to mourn their losses. It was all so very abstract for these flyers and so very hard on their nerves. Getting back into their Flying Fortresses day after day was a pure effort of will power.

  • @donaldshotts4429

    @donaldshotts4429

    5 ай бұрын

    Good point. I'm wondering why they never show them being escorted by fighters? Granted the fighters didn't have the range in 1943 to cross into Germany, but France should've had our fighters all over.

  • @ChrisAdamscomedy
    @ChrisAdamscomedy5 ай бұрын

    Rosenthal, the pilot who wanted to do something, his grandson played an airman in the previous episode on Austin Butler's plane.

  • @technofilejr3401

    @technofilejr3401

    4 ай бұрын

    The wiki page on hood granddad describes one heck of a military career

  • @mattw65
    @mattw655 ай бұрын

    Earlier this week one of our national radio stations (in Ireland) was talking to the author of the book which this show is based on. He spoke about on US airman who was a tail gunner and on his first flight the tail was detached from the plane while 3 miles up. He survived but they sent him up again the next week. The poor guy lost it due to the airframe of the B17 flexing while flying, thinking that the tail was going to come off again. When he returned he actually became comatose due to fear and was shipped home, where he was in a coma for nearly a year.

  • @SpitFir3Tornado
    @SpitFir3Tornado5 ай бұрын

    By far my favourite episode so far. I wish they were doing more of this exploration of the men and who they are throughout, and hope they keep this up going forward.

  • @chrisguadalupe264
    @chrisguadalupe2645 ай бұрын

    if u wanna see a great movie about that 1st crew to fly 25 missions, ya'll should watch and react to 'Memphis Belle'... it's fantastic

  • @jonathancathey2334
    @jonathancathey23345 ай бұрын

    One horror story of many in WW2. There was a French resistance group, that had been infiltrated by a German agent. This German agent got himself into a position. Where evading allied airmen. Would get turned over to him. For the next part of the journey. The German agent would convince these allied airmen. To get rid of any identifying things (dog tags, pay book, letters from home) that you mark them as evading military personnel. Then this agent would make sure that everyone of these evading airmen would wear civilian clothing. Of course the German agent would turn these evading airmen over to the German authorities, but because these evading airmen got rid of any military identification. Plus they were captured in civilian clothing. The Germans marked them as enemy spies. Where these evading airmen ended up in a Nazi death camp. Now this group of airmen got lucky, because one of their group. Spoke German, and a bunch of German Air Force officers were looking for laborers. The one airmen that spoke German introduced himself as a captured allied airman. That he and his fellow airmen were put in this camp by some sort of mistake. The German Air Force officers ended up getting all of those allied airmen out of that Death Camp. When the U.S. airmen were returned to U.S. custody at the end of the war. All of those airmen were sworn to secrecy by the U.S. government. It wasn't till the early 2000's that anyone of the airmen broke their oath of secrecy.

  • @juvandy

    @juvandy

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm not surprised by this. The Luftwaffe started the war as one of the most pro-Nazi branches of the german military, but they lost a lot of that as they fell out of favor later in the war. There was a degree of mutual respect between fliers for the hell they all went through, and some of those Luftwaffe men despised the sheer brutality of the gestapo and ss to other airmen. They knew that if allied men were getting tortured, then they could be too if they got shot down.

  • @jimandaud
    @jimandaud5 ай бұрын

    Yes, beating the odds. My dad and his crew were shot down on their 10th mission. On board ,their pilot was on his 25th and last mission, so was a "special guest." The crew thought this was a good sign, so good that another crewman who did not have to fly that day volunteered to go on the mission. Conversely, their regular navigator had been lost on a mission a couple of days prior where he filled in on another crew. His replacement, Lt. Caust, was on his first ever mission. So a 25 mission guy and a 1st mission guy. The entire crew bailed, but Caust was shot and killed on the ground by a farmer. Death was so random.

  • @jashimer
    @jashimer5 ай бұрын

    We had a German exchange student and as soon as I saw the way he wrote his "1" and his "9" I knew he was German! I think that's why they made them write things down.

  • @bearkat78

    @bearkat78

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I zoomed in on the guy writing and his 9 had the long exaggerated curve at the bottom, definitely a German 9.

  • @reecedignan8365

    @reecedignan8365

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bearkat78also the thing that gave him up was how he wrote the date. Americans write Month/Day/Year, he wrote Day/Month/Year as is common across all Europe.

  • @jamesbednar8625

    @jamesbednar8625

    5 ай бұрын

    Spent 5-years in Germany myself during the 1980s. Learned how to write ;etters/numbers like they do. To this day still write letters/numbers like them and do alternate between the dating system, which "confuses" a lot of Americans I inter-act with.

  • @421ladybug

    @421ladybug

    5 ай бұрын

    He also wrote the month "August" in German handwriting (Sütterlin Script), the typical handwriting in Germany at that time.

  • @m.e.3862

    @m.e.3862

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah when you write things down it taps into your subconscious and you mechanically resort to what you’ve learned. Like when I forget how a word is spelled, I’ll look away from the page and write out the word and most of the time it’s right.

  • @Frightspear
    @Frightspear5 ай бұрын

    70,000 US airmen of the 8th Air Force were casualties over Europe. The courage and bravery of these men, also known as the "greatest generation" is why I feel a sense of pride to pay respect to their legacy by learning their stories. This show has been fantastic so far! Thanks for the content, and I look forward to your next one!

  • @panamafloyd1469
    @panamafloyd14695 ай бұрын

    I really had a different perception of Bucky on leave. He looks out the window at the German bombing raid, mentions '..I'm doing that to people.' Eastern European (Polish?) girl says, 'They deserve it.' Then he sees that dead child. IMO, his whole demeanor is, 'They started it, we'll finish it.' And of course, you mentioned that when you were talking about the scene where Bucky buys the paper and calls the airbase to say he'll be back. My own experience with the veterans is anecdotal, mostly from talking to them at airshows where WW2 vintage aircraft were displayed back in the 1970s-'80s..but most of them seemed to hold that sentiment.

  • @susanbarco2579
    @susanbarco25795 ай бұрын

    This is why there are only a few characters they are able to really delve into, because so many of them were not around that long.

  • @susanbarco2579

    @susanbarco2579

    5 ай бұрын

    … Very good review by the way!

  • @magenof1440
    @magenof14405 ай бұрын

    They were in Flanders, Belgium

  • @sandbagger57
    @sandbagger575 ай бұрын

    This episode you met Major Robert Rosie Rosenthal. He is one of the bomb group's most famous pilots who is featured in multiple Museums among other things. I will leave details for you to enjoy finding out as you watch the series.

  • @cleekmaker00

    @cleekmaker00

    5 ай бұрын

    I've known about Major Rosenthal and the 100th BG for almost a half century. Whenever I hear 'B-17', they're the first ones I think about.

  • @andreraymond6860

    @andreraymond6860

    5 ай бұрын

    Rosie is one of the highlights of Donald F Miller's book. What a hero!

  • @cleekmaker00

    @cleekmaker00

    5 ай бұрын

    @@andreraymond6860 He and the 100th are also featured in the book "Flying Fortress" by Edward Jablonski, the definitive work on the B-17.

  • @Banzaimastr
    @Banzaimastr5 ай бұрын

    Its such an honor to watch this show, my great grandpa was stationed in England during World War 2 and that's how he met my great grandma she was an air warden for her town there. He was part of the Army Air Force 92nd Bombardment Group (H) and the stories he passed down are absolutely incredible. There is is a statue in Wellingborough UK for their service.

  • @gravitypronepart2201
    @gravitypronepart22015 ай бұрын

    I have to say, I love this series. This one showed the perspective of the ground crews and personnel as well as friends waiting for them to return. That's important to the overall story, I think. I have a hard time believing a mechanic would fix an engine on a moving plane from inside a wheel well. If that actually happened, it was impressive. I had an Uncle named Bill Bettridge who was a B-17 tail gunner in the 15th Airforce in Italy, who flew 51 missions, shot down 2 confirmed and one unconfirmed enemy fighters and was awarded the Air Medal 4 times. I loved hearing his stories.

  • @codie2035

    @codie2035

    5 ай бұрын

    It did happen just on another mission with a different crew. He wrote a book and mentions it in there. The Forgotten Man - The Mechanic by Kenneth Lemmons.

  • @douglascampbell9809
    @douglascampbell98095 ай бұрын

    I've been commenting on videos of people reacting to Band Of Brothers and The Pacific that when Masters Of The Air would be an absolute blood bath.

  • @charlize1253
    @charlize12535 ай бұрын

    The Norden bombsight was the best for the time, but you should read the wikipedia entry about how bad it was. In combat only half of the bombs landed within 1,200 feet of the target (meaning half were more than 1,200 feet off). That's why every attack sent 15-20 bombers, because you needed to drop 200 bombs for even one to hit the target.

  • @waynec3563

    @waynec3563

    5 ай бұрын

    It wasn't all down to the bomb sight. The way they bombed as a formation also had an effect. The statistic I have read most often is that less than 20% of bombs fell within a 1,000ft radius of the aiming point.

  • @facubeitches1144
    @facubeitches11445 ай бұрын

    One of the ways to identify Americans was by how they held cigarettes (most commonly between the index and middle finger), which differed from the European way. It wasn't guaranteed, but it was pretty reliable.

  • @cleekmaker00

    @cleekmaker00

    5 ай бұрын

    There's also differences in inflection and diction that are uniquely American, which the Maquis also had to be keenly aware of. Generally speaking, any Allied soldiers who escaped and evaded capture with the help of the Resistance were automatically taken out of combat and sent home; if they were captured again they could reveal members of the Resistance that helped them escape initially. However, there were exceptions to this rule.

  • @bernardsalvatore1929
    @bernardsalvatore19295 ай бұрын

    TBR, if you guys haven't seen the film "Memphis Belle" from I believe 1995-ish, starring Matthew Modine among others you would probably recognize, you should!! It's the story of the crew of the Memphis Belle which was a B-17 and I believe it was the very FIRST crew to reach 25 missions!!! There's a small documentary film about the event and THEN there's the film that I'M speaking of which is VERY good!!!

  • @mypl510

    @mypl510

    5 ай бұрын

    First plane in the ETO to reach 25 mission was a B-24 Liberator named Hot Stuff. It was lost heading back to the U.S. for a war bond drive. Next up was Hell's Angels, but due to the name not being very desirable, the Memphis Belle was up next and became the centerpiece of the Documentary by William Wyler

  • @gravitypronepart2201
    @gravitypronepart22015 ай бұрын

    Good catch on the differences in American and European writing dates guys.

  • @frenchfan3368

    @frenchfan3368

    5 ай бұрын

    Yup, a nine should be written with a curve. Even if you look on the keyboard, it is written with a curve. I still swear that unless a seven has a line through it, it can be interpreted as a one. Sevens should always have the line written through them no matter where you live in the world.

  • @tracyfrazier7440
    @tracyfrazier74405 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy you get these episodes out to us so quickly. And so appreciative of what these real men did for us. The only appreciation they get is when we talk about our air supremacy during D Day.

  • @jsmutny
    @jsmutny5 ай бұрын

    The B-17 was designed and built by Boeing, but also built under license by Douglas and Vega (Lockheed). At the height of production, Boeing was rolling one B-17 out the door *every hour*.

  • @locamonrosamonikarozanek7634
    @locamonrosamonikarozanek76343 ай бұрын

    Bucky's lover in this episode is played by great Polish actress who's been lately appearing in more and more English-language productions (eg. new Al Pacino and Michael Keaton film). One of her films which I think you would adore is "Cold War", directed by Paweł Pawlikowski, Oscar nominated masterpiece, a true epic romance.

  • @matthewgreenfield360
    @matthewgreenfield3605 ай бұрын

    Interestingly, on the Bremen mission shown here, one of the aircraft from this unit (100th Bomb Group) that didn't return was the "Piccadilly Lily". A B-17 named "Picadilly Lily" was later featured in the classic 1949 movie and later TV series "12 O'Clock High", as the movie's screenwriter Beirne Lay Jr had flown five missions in the original "Picadilly Lily". I had hoped Episode 4 would feature this aircraft - it would have been a nice touch - but she was from one of the other Squadrons of the 100th that we don't really see here.

  • @aaronin93309
    @aaronin933095 ай бұрын

    Bob got the lyrics to star spangled banner wrong as well.

  • @gizmoswr679
    @gizmoswr6795 ай бұрын

    Boeing pumped out the B17 in numbers exceeding 12,500 throughout the war. My Grandma worked here in Long Beach they did about 2500 at the Douglas plant. I got to ride in a "G" model called Sentimental Journey in 2015 at an expo in Chino Airport. Being only 5'2" I would have been voluntold to be a ball gunner.

  • @donparnell309

    @donparnell309

    5 ай бұрын

    Amazingly, the ball turret gunner was a pretty safe place to be. It was armored and not directly attacked like the front of the aircraft. The waist gunners, bombardiers, and navigators had much higher casualty rates.

  • @asmrhead1560
    @asmrhead15605 ай бұрын

    It's so hard for a show like this to convey the context of the daylight bombing campaign of the 8th Air Force and how it differed from the early to late war raids when Allied fighters could escort the bombers almost or all the way to targets as well as improved bomber group tactics and a general wearing down of the German defences. Of the aircrew who flew the original twenty-five mission bomber tour in 1942-1943 only about 35% survived. Whereas the twenty-five to thirty mission requirements of 1944 had about a 66% survival rate, and by 1945, 81% of the aircrew managed to fly the full thirty-five engagements. Across the entire flying aircrew cadre of the 8th Air Force the casualty rate was around 21%. Compare that to the U.S. Marines casualty rate of 3.3%, the U.S. Army rate of 2.3%, and U.S. Navy rate of 0.4%. The daylight bomber crews got shredded.

  • @redcardinalist
    @redcardinalist5 ай бұрын

    Love this series and how they develop the characters. I beleive you're first up on KZread with your episode 4 reaction. Well done!

  • @ryanhampson673
    @ryanhampson6734 ай бұрын

    You picked up the lighter clue. It was an Austrian make of lighter. American crews were fond of the zippo and would have carried that. The lighter pick up was the confirming nod that he was an infiltrator. Remember in band of brothers some Americans of German descent went back to Germany for the war so it’s not impossible some became infiltrators, especially useful if they could speak English with an American accent as well.

  • @Crimsonphotog

    @Crimsonphotog

    4 ай бұрын

    The Date Day Month Year was what I caught the first time too.

  • @pbf7719
    @pbf77195 ай бұрын

    Buck is seen in the opening credits and it looks like he’s a prisoner of war so I’m sure they’ll show what happened to his plane in a future episode

  • @robertflansburg4035
    @robertflansburg40355 ай бұрын

    In WW2 it took an average of 200 bombs dropped to hit a target.

  • @charlize1253

    @charlize1253

    5 ай бұрын

    The Norden bombsight was the best for the time, but you should read the wikipedia entry about how bad it was. In combat only half of the bombs landed within 1,200 feet of the target (meaning half were more than 1,200 feet off). That's why every attack sent 15-20 bombers, because you needed to drop that many to ensure that one hit the target.

  • @donaldshotts4429

    @donaldshotts4429

    5 ай бұрын

    As opposed to the Desert Storm era when the Navy said they could fire a cruise missile from the ocean and put it through the goal posts at Washington stadium at a higher accuracy rate then the Washington kicker. Over 30 years later and the Russians have no idea where their ordinance is going

  • @alexhidalgo7110
    @alexhidalgo71105 ай бұрын

    Awesome reaction

  • @technofilejr3401
    @technofilejr34014 ай бұрын

    11:03 Totally impressed that this 19 year old mechanic was so brave and resourceful. Fixing a plane engine while it’s taxiing for takeoff. What we expect of our young men and women these days is so low.

  • @ReeseMacalma
    @ReeseMacalma5 ай бұрын

    Holy crap the tension in the last few minutes was NUTS!!!

  • @Yora21
    @Yora215 ай бұрын

    I think at this point, pretty much every factory and workshop that can make military gear and supplies does. All the car factories are building tanks, planes, and trucks. In 1943, the Americans produced 150 combat planes every day. In 1944 it was 200. I saw one quote that during the two and a half years that America was at war, the country produced 140 civilian cars in total. Once the Americans committed to joining the war and winning, German and Japanese defeat was inevitable.

  • @cleekmaker00
    @cleekmaker005 ай бұрын

    Remember that this is still early in the Bombing campaign, where the 8th AF took a good amount of heavy Bomber losses due to enemy fire and the lack of Fighter escort all the to the target and back. From the lessons of these early days came the B-17G with more guns up front and more P-51 Fighters to escort the Heavies. That, sheer numbers and the decline of the Luftwaffe paved the way towards eventual victory.

  • @aglloyd5951
    @aglloyd59515 ай бұрын

    On the resistance fighter/ ground airmen infiltrator scene- during the Battle of the Bulge, which you see in Band of Brothers episode 6 & 7, the Germans used Spies with very effective American accents to infiltrate behind the lines and caused so much havoc with the US troops, that the American Military Police had to grill your Generals & high ranking personal on things like what you see the resistance fighters doing in this episode. The Germans were very good at it.

  • @Twisted_Throttle77
    @Twisted_Throttle775 ай бұрын

    8th AF bombs only had a 5% hit rate. Rarely did they ever destroy a target it was the civilians around the targets that took the brunt of every raid. British ran into the same problem above 25k ft

  • @tazedspider1869
    @tazedspider18695 ай бұрын

    bucks gotta be alive right, like no way they kill him off camera

  • @SpitFir3Tornado

    @SpitFir3Tornado

    5 ай бұрын

    I mean they show what happens to him in the intro, I have been telling people not to watch the intro for that reason.

  • @MarcoMM1

    @MarcoMM1

    5 ай бұрын

    he survives dont worry he will show up later in the series, Gale "Buck" Cleven only die in 2006

  • @redentortiongco5686
    @redentortiongco56865 ай бұрын

    Another great reaction..looking forward for the next one..i got some movie suggestions that might interest you..."A Bridge too Far"(gene hackman/michael caine/sean connery/robert redford)..."Patton"(george c scott/carl moulden)..."Battle of the Bulge"(1965)(henry fonda/charles bronson/telly savalas)..."The Dirty Dozen"(lee marvin/charles bronson/telly savalas)...have a wonderful day.

  • @lyndoncmp5751

    @lyndoncmp5751

    5 ай бұрын

    How can you leave out the great Robert Shaw in your list of the Battle of the Bulge cast? 🤯 He's literally the best thing in it. They already reacted to, and loved, Jaws so they would know who he is.

  • @wildbillkelso1946
    @wildbillkelso19465 ай бұрын

    Glenn Dye's co-pilot, John "Lucky" Luckadoo, who is fortunately still with us at age 101 has a few less than flattering things to say about Dye and the some of the other members of his crew. Prior to leaving for England the 100th's co-pilots had accrued more flying time than many first pilots so they were transferred to other groups and a new batch of co-pilots was brought in including Lucky who was assigned to Dye's crew. Because of the attachment they had with their old co-pilot, the navigator and bombardier made Lucky's life hell and Dye didn't do anything to stop them. During a training flight Dye landed their B-17 in a muddy grass field in Ohio to visit his wife and baby. The B-17 got stuck in the mud and they tried to tow it out with tractors, trucks and wreckers in order to pull it onto wooden planks. On full power the B-17 was finally able to get off the boards and they barely cleared the trees at the end of the field when they took off. In Newfoundland on their way to England Dye hooked up with a British woman in the WAAF "Women's Auxiliary Air Force" and got the clap as a result. While the rest of the 100th went on to England Lucky and the rest of Dye's crew had to wait two weeks while Dye received sulfa treatment. When he was finally released from the hospital he was so weak he had to be carried into the cockpit leaving Lucky to fly the plane and the crew to England alone. Before they left Lucky had it out with his navigator and warned if he warned if he didn't navigate them to landfall on the nose he'd kick his ass out of the plane without a parachute. They got to England no problem. Lucky felt Dye should've been court-martialed for the landing stunt in Ohio and his relationship with the navigator and bombardier was strained to say the least.

  • @donparnell309

    @donparnell309

    5 ай бұрын

    He has a bunch of interviews on KZread and is as lucid today as he was at 30.

  • @FrogwomanOrgReloaded
    @FrogwomanOrgReloaded5 ай бұрын

    99% sure that Buck is still alive and a POW now ;-) . Wasn't the intro already spoiling that? Watched it only once as they show so much in it.... Thanks for the reaction! And the bomb crew who got shot down and had to bail out... they had a good chance of survival in a POW camp. They may be "lost" in terms that they don't return to their base, but many of those will make it to the end of the war.

  • @alanmacification
    @alanmacification5 ай бұрын

    The average casualty rate was 8% per mission. You had to fly 25 mission. The crew did some quick math and 25 times 8% is 200% chance of getting shot down. The odds were not good.

  • @lsaria5998

    @lsaria5998

    5 ай бұрын

    That's not how statistics work, the chance of completing a 25 mission tour with 8% casualty rate is 0.92 multiplied by itself twenty-five times which is a little under one in eight. But also the 8% stat is averaged over the whole span of the USAAF's time in the European Theater. At this stage of 1943 it was actually considerably higher than that; double digits at a minimum; making the chance of surviving a complete tour around 4%, which is why it was such a big PR deal to show off the crews that made it.

  • @alanmacification

    @alanmacification

    5 ай бұрын

    @@lsaria5998 " quick math " was the operative word. I'm well aware that's not how stats work.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite27815 ай бұрын

    Your expression on the thumbnail is like, "Well, that was unexpected."

  • @juvandy
    @juvandy5 ай бұрын

    You should read about the Bremen mission we didn't get to see. The accounts of it are as bad, if not worse, than the Regensburg mission. I am a bit disappointed that they didn't show it here. I wonder if we might get some flashback scenes next week.

  • @nickmitsialis

    @nickmitsialis

    5 ай бұрын

    The raid on Munster (the mission before 'Black Thursday-Schweinfurt II) resulted with only ONE 100th ship making it home from that raid.

  • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese
    @sometimesidreamaboutcheese5 ай бұрын

    I've said it multiple times already before (since i meet your amazing channel after your "Das Boot" watching, my beloved one), please find and watch the movie "Dark Blue World" (2001). It is war movie about czech pilots who fought in British Royal Air Force during WWII. It is magnificent movie with ACTUAL planes and based on autobiographical books of WWII czech pilot F. Fajtl who was an inspiration to the film. Quote from wiki: "Animator Hayao Miyazaki said that this is his favourite film, as it shows the speed and fragility of aircraft and the historic tragedy of the Czech pilots after the war." What else should I say? Heh. At least that.. "Das Boot" and "Dark Blue World" are my favourite war\anti-war drama movies (alongside with "Come and See" and "The Thin Red Line"). I did not seen DBW around 15 years but still remember it like yesterday.

  • @jsmutny

    @jsmutny

    5 ай бұрын

    Love "Dark Blue World", also shows the brutal reality those brave men faced when they returned home.

  • @matthewgreenfield360

    @matthewgreenfield360

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, I love "Dark Blue World", one of my favourites!

  • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese

    @sometimesidreamaboutcheese

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jsmutny Oh my god, thank you for your responses, I never met any soul who seen this movie ever in my life, never met mentions of this film (or reactions) in the internet neither, unlike some other movies.

  • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese

    @sometimesidreamaboutcheese

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@matthewgreenfield360 Oh my god, thank you for your responses, I never met any soul who seen this movie ever in my life, never met mentions of this film (or reactions) in the internet neither, unlike some other movies.

  • @J_Sergio
    @J_Sergio5 ай бұрын

    It wasnt France, is Belgium, they speak french too.

  • @nickmitsialis

    @nickmitsialis

    5 ай бұрын

    Did the 'lines' try to get them to France and out to Spain or were the evaders 'stuck' until the Allied Armies arrived?

  • @MyraJean1951
    @MyraJean19515 ай бұрын

    If you're looking for another great series, I recommend Catch-22. Darkly comedic but still great drama.

  • @cliveklg7739
    @cliveklg77395 ай бұрын

    12 crews our of 35. 10 per crew. 230 men lost. 13 our of 24, 210 lost. 440 gone 2 missions.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora215 ай бұрын

    In the 30s, Germany had a big campaign to invite German emigrants to move back to Germany, which was based on the same ideology as annexing German-majority regions in neighboring countries into the German state. One Germany for all Germans. Those who were born and raised in other countries would be indistinguishable from actual soldiers of those countries. Especially with Americans, where German-Americans make up the largest population group. Makes sense for resistance groups to screen supposed Allied soldiers extremely carefully before showing them anything about their organizations.

  • @luigisanchez1732
    @luigisanchez17325 ай бұрын

    I think the way they know who is a german Spy, is the way the write the date and how they sing the anthem, i could be wrong but the date thing is americans write Month/Day/Year and Europe writes Day/Month/Year and that is the first clue, and the anthem he was singing so loudly probably becasuse the nazis sing loduly there anthem and the real americans softly and even incomplete. The lighter thing is to catch him by surprise

  • @redcardinalist

    @redcardinalist

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm also guessing the date is the thing

  • @Robalogot

    @Robalogot

    5 ай бұрын

    The date, the anthem and the lighter (Americans used zippos, he used an Austrian brand)

  • @gravitypronepart2201

    @gravitypronepart2201

    5 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing.

  • @amydhm

    @amydhm

    5 ай бұрын

    It was the date... I said it while watching immediately. Writing by hand is almost instinctual... kind of like ordering 3 of something in America vs. Germany 😊

  • @ModernCowboy78
    @ModernCowboy785 ай бұрын

    This one hit me hard. I was all in on Buck.

  • @technofilejr3401
    @technofilejr34014 ай бұрын

    7:19 Buck got shot down on his 22nd mission. Wow 3 more and he could have went home.

  • @PaulArk
    @PaulArk5 ай бұрын

    “It’s like a vegan!” 😂😂😂

  • @saiien2
    @saiien25 ай бұрын

    The infiltrator did several mistakes. First he wrote his date of birth in "European style" like DD-MM-YY, second was his lighter. American would use Zippo. He had a German one.

  • @fredropro
    @fredropro5 ай бұрын

    I Wanna Pitch!!!

  • @MRIRONLAK
    @MRIRONLAK3 ай бұрын

    Day month year, GERMAN!!😂😂 oh man idk why i laughed but that was kinda funny

  • @RamzVenturez
    @RamzVenturez5 ай бұрын

    Tell Sam that Barry is the boy in Chernobyl that was tasked with killing the animal!!

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas5 ай бұрын

    Gestapo and SD (Sicherheitsdienst - Security Service) tried to infiltrate the resistance groups in different ways through the war as shown in this episode, sometimes they succeeded unfortunately.. The characters we follow in this series are people who served in the 100th, to avoid spoilers dont read or watch any history books or documentaries about the 100th while watching this series.

  • @TheLuftwaffe1940
    @TheLuftwaffe19405 ай бұрын

    The next mission is gonna be the most bloodiest yet.

  • @squint04
    @squint045 ай бұрын

    The spy wrote the date wrong! He also blew the national anthem

  • @SeanATX
    @SeanATX4 ай бұрын

    Weren’t the guys on the ground in Belgium

  • @MySandstrom
    @MySandstrom5 ай бұрын

    I lived in Germany for quite a few years and the dates still screw with my head. Day month year....

  • @russellpetrie119
    @russellpetrie1195 ай бұрын

    820 are they hay bales in that field?

  • @signalnine2601
    @signalnine26015 ай бұрын

    Those American spies trying to infiltrate the belgian resistence.

  • @goaway152
    @goaway1525 ай бұрын

    the German wrote the date wrong on the paper as well.

  • @tracyfrazier7440
    @tracyfrazier74405 ай бұрын

    What it takes is coke and steel from SW Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh. They are geared up now. SW Penn coal miners represented.

  • @ladyhotep5189
    @ladyhotep51895 ай бұрын

    I think Buck is alive. No way they get Austin Butler to play a character that dies off screen. Then again who knows

  • @donaldshotts4429

    @donaldshotts4429

    5 ай бұрын

    Pow

  • @ChienaAvtzon

    @ChienaAvtzon

    5 ай бұрын

    Please note that Austin Butler was a complete unknown when the series was cast, and he was mot even the first choice for Cleven.

  • @marisbernardo7199
    @marisbernardo71995 ай бұрын

    his hand writing that for sure and his singing and he have lighter.

  • @svampedyret
    @svampedyret5 ай бұрын

    Check out, Come and See 1985 that is ( the/real ) war movie to see...

  • @scottythedawg
    @scottythedawg5 ай бұрын

    Nice to have a 25 mission cap, other countries had to just keep flying until it was over. No disrespect to the US pilots and crew, everyone played their part.

  • @donaldshotts4429

    @donaldshotts4429

    5 ай бұрын

    German ace Erich Hartmann had 352 kills, but who's going to train the new guys better then an Ace pilot. Thats why the German & Japanese replacement pilots generally didn't last long.

  • @travisgray8376
    @travisgray83765 ай бұрын

    This season is only 9 episodes long so your half way through this season only 5 episodes left

  • @VigoDoria
    @VigoDoria5 ай бұрын

    Day-Month-Year is English. German is Year-Month-Day.

  • @maxfrankow1238
    @maxfrankow12382 ай бұрын

    Don’t compare us pilots to vegans 😂

  • @AussieTVMusic
    @AussieTVMusic5 ай бұрын

    Clunky dialogue in this show. Ain't no BOB

  • @joe34012
    @joe340125 ай бұрын

    This show is just so boring back on the ground, no character development.

  • @donparnell309

    @donparnell309

    5 ай бұрын

    I think it is hard to develop characters when they get killed so quick. On BoB, all of the soldiers that were awarded medals for the assault on Brecourt Manor, lived to see the war end. With the casualty rate so high and fast in MotA, we will probably only get to see a few.

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