I didn't know this show existed. My father flew with the Bloody 100th and was shot down on the Munster raid. I've got to see this.

@AnthraciteHorrorStories

Ай бұрын

Hardcore man.

@kilroy3961

Ай бұрын

Did you know that if you go on the 100th foundation website you could look him up in the personnel files. I’ve browsing it and looking up all the real people.

@ralfklonowski3740

Ай бұрын

My mother, around 11yo at the time, experienced the raid in a cellar. So we both had a parent on each end of the raid. I do hope your father made it home in good health.

@user-bk6gc7sl9z

Ай бұрын

wow

@markbraswell6768

Ай бұрын

@@ralfklonowski3740 That's really cool.

My dad was a co-pilot of a B-17 in WWII. At 22, he lived through the action we’re seeing on screen. The losses were heavy. He flew 30+ missions, where you only had to do 25 to go home. He didn’t talk about the war much, except to say that he could eat breakfast with a fellow soldier, and then the guy wasn’t there the next day because he died in action.😢 I am proud to have his Distinguished Flying Cross. I’ll treasure it always ❤️🇺🇸

@user-bk6gc7sl9z

2 ай бұрын

wow

@przemysawzegarek7198

2 ай бұрын

thanks to people like him, now me and my family can live in a free country 🇵🇱 I really appreciate all those heroes sacrifice.

@GachaBj

2 ай бұрын

Is that a highest medal of all the medals? Wow, awesome, sorry for the lost of your grandfather. Rest in Peace

@johnwhalen9499

2 ай бұрын

My dad was Flt engineer (top turret gunner) on B-17 and B-24's he did 33 missions. Hardly ever would talk about it.

@user-bk6gc7sl9z

2 ай бұрын

@@johnwhalen9499 who cares

This was Robert 'Rosie' Rosenthal and crew's third mission. After 4 aircraft from the 100th had turned back due to mechanical failures, 13 aircraft from the 100th proceeded to the target. Only one aircraft made it to the target and successfully returned to base: Rosenthal's aircraft. This was the beginning of Rosenthal's legend. There was enough story there that the whole mini-series could have been just about Rosenthal and his crews.

@CorePathway

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, but we gotta shoehorn the Red Tails in here somehow.

My uncle was a bombardier in Triangle A, same as portrayed here. He got shot down by German fighters on a bombing raid over Kassel, Germany. His 24th mission. He was 19. Joined up when he was 16. They were bombing the BMW fighter engine plant. The first run they didn't bomb because the target was hidden by a smoke screen. So they went around for a second run. The second run was always deadly for the airmen. But that was how they won the war - by just fighting it out.

@Warszawski_Modernizm

2 ай бұрын

A brave man.

@sickc-1375

2 ай бұрын

No a coward

@Warszawski_Modernizm

2 ай бұрын

A coward your mother was, thats for sure, not being brave enough to abort such a sh*t like yourself @@sickc-1375

@AnthraciteHorrorStories

Ай бұрын

Did he survive?

@AnthraciteHorrorStories

Ай бұрын

@@sickc-1375 spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

The 109 pilot is going "Vot ist this pilot think he's flying, ein Spitfire?!!

@johnrion3232

2 ай бұрын

Nein vulfgang… vee have named ze flug afta ein frau garten

@veteran20002001

2 ай бұрын

@@johnrion3232 Frau garten?

@Dreagostini

Ай бұрын

@@johnrion3232 You don't have to "germanise" Wolfgang. It's already a german name.

@scottyb68

Ай бұрын

Actually the B-17 could be quite maneuverable. They only flew straight and level for defense formation and the bomb run. But the planes were new, well maintained and the pilots in the late teens and twenties. So with the bombs gone and no group a good pilot could do everything but loops.

@aidenwrenn5342

10 күн бұрын

The B17 carried about the same bomb load as a Mosquito, hence very maneuverable in the hands of a skilled pilot once unloaded.

This was the peak of the series

@leons.kennedy6710

Ай бұрын

It was like a horror movie. Those poor guys.

They had fighter escorts but they only had enough fuel to protect them on part of the missions.Not till later like early 1944 did they get additional fuel tanks for Spitfires.I always remembered in Memphis Belle the guys saying goodbye "little friends" when they had to turn back.Unbielivable courage these men displayed!!

@andrewwaller5913

2 ай бұрын

P-51 Mustangs were the game changer in 1944, to Berlin and back. Spitfires could go as far as northern France.

@fredlandry6170

2 ай бұрын

The P-51 came along later in the war and had the range to protect the Bombers.

@jameswells9403

2 ай бұрын

Catch 22

@ericheuvel6369

2 ай бұрын

Great Movie: Memphis Belle… No CGI! I’ve nothing against it…. Just saying.

@skillsphere9245

2 ай бұрын

It was first the p-47 that escorted the b-17's aka the "jugg" it was very well armoured, reliable, good sustain heavy damage still return home and had good fuel range escorting bombers i think even back and forth but..... the p-47 was far less agile and slower then the bf 109 and the focke wulfs around 43 44 so american airforce indeed incorporated the p-51 mustang but this was far later on heavy losses where already sustained due to the fact that even if the bombers had p-47 escorts they where to slow climbed slow and didnt stand a chance against an good bf 109 pilot german airforce was leading for years in technology . Then the p-51 came and later on also fuel tanks that fully covered the journey. The spitfire had the same rolls royce motor with 2000 horse power of rolls but the p51 was still faster, better build aurodynamically. The p-51 was for a while the fastest plane on the earth with a speed of 750km an hour + heavy armament and a fast climber high altitude escort bomber fighter toghether with the p-38 twing engine boom 2x roll royce motor. Wich also escorted a lot of b17 missions countering the bf 110 high altitude fighter. Only after the p51 and especially the p51 red tails black division. bomber missions suffered much less casualties the black division performed the best in defending bomber missions. So after the commisioning of the p51 i think in 44 or 43 correct me if im wrong bombers missions where mainly a mixture of p51-s p47-s and p-38's. But ofcourse spitfires hurricanes, tempests, sea fires, and lot of other british models probably have seen action.

Donald pleaseance the british actor flew 62 bombing missions for the raf ..before becoming an actor ...he played the forger in the film The great escape ...

@Mike91337

Ай бұрын

Splendid

@marianovaliente2103

14 күн бұрын

Un gran actor sin duda.un gran piloto le debemos mucho todos.hizo muy buenas películas 🎥 como muchos actores famosos por lo visto también lucho en la segunda guerra mundial..

@aidenwrenn5342

10 күн бұрын

@@marianovaliente2103 Including Jimmy Stewart.

@PlymouthVT

9 күн бұрын

Many of the actors in the Great Escape were in the service including Steve McQueen. Excellent movie.

@bobthebuilder2967

9 күн бұрын

James garner was also in a bomber during ww2

The only reason my then teenage grandmother survived that raid was because she went into the wrong shelter.

@sarahbolton9140

Ай бұрын

Lmao

To my knowledge it was very rare for a bomber crew to shoot down fighters. In this series every bomber gunner becomes an ace it seems, and on every mission too.

@tacticalclochard

Ай бұрын

Yea, you're onto something here, e.g. during one of the Schweinfurth raids the Luftwaffe would lose around 20 to 40 fighters to all causes. So kills by bomber defensive machine guns were not exactly rare, but occurred much less than the show would have viewers believe. Over all, despite the suspiciously many, suspiciously enthusiastic reviews, I think the show is, very much like 'The Pacific' was, very badly written.

@alanjm1234

Ай бұрын

Yep, the reality is, the "Flying Fortress" concept failed. Not that it wasn't a successful bomber, but the idea of them being able to defend themselves against fighters just didn't pan out. After horrendous losses on the Schweinfurt raids, the Air Force suspended daylight bombing until long range fighter escorts became available.

@Bigrago1

Ай бұрын

I only counted 8 German planes hit in this episode with what looked like half going down in flames, compared to the 25 confirmed to have been lost in the actual raid. In the episodes prior only 1 was hit in the opening of episode 1 and one smoking I the latter half, while in episode 2 only one was shot down and in episode 3 I counted 6 hit compared to 25-27 lost in the August 17 raid.

@thosdot6497

Ай бұрын

Rare on a per-sortie basis maybe, but they routinely flew 500+ bombers per mission, several times per month - shooting down 20-40 per mission when you have 500 plus aircraft shooting at them is quite believable. The real problem is that each enemy fighter would have gunners from several bombers shooting at it, all claiming it when the first puffs of smoke appeared.

@peterruiz6117

Ай бұрын

It was not rare, but very difficult. Command thought it would be easy, and could not addmit that simply putting a gun at every corner would not make a bomber invinceable. How wrong they were. I read that some (?) crews shared each kill. Gen. Adolf Galland said that attacking a heavy bomber was very risky, and his method was to dive into the firmation from above. Only the top turret had a shot, but difficult one ,and it was the widest view of the bomber . He did say rookie German fighter pilots did not do well with his method, and collided alot. Mission accomplished.

I aways wonder how much damage was done by "friendly fire" in those huge formations of bombers

@andrewwaller5913

2 ай бұрын

Not as much as was done by Flak and fighters.

@asphaltmilkshake4596

2 ай бұрын

Can't remember exactly who said it but there's an interview with a German pilot where he talks about the tactics they used against bombers and how during a pass going through the middle of the formation was the safest place to be because the gunners wouldn't shoot for fear of hitting each other.

@vash42165

2 ай бұрын

you would be surprised ammo casing dropping on another aircraft occured more often than friendly fires

@HuGenitals

2 ай бұрын

The combat box was designed to minimize that, but with all hell breaking loose it did happen. When you add up all the other things, 50cal friendly fire was almost irrelevant when compared to 88mm flak, 20mm cannon from 109 and 190 or simply other forts blowing up and taking others in the formation with them.

@mauricemichiels6889

2 ай бұрын

I read less than .5%

Other people: YOU CANT DOGFIGHT WITH A B-17 This crew: Watch me

It's insane to think that a lot of those guys where in their twenties when this happened

@rodbutler4054

2 ай бұрын

Some Pilots were only 19!

@adameckard4591

2 ай бұрын

If they were that old, many were underage.

@dan3535351

Ай бұрын

Teens

@danieleyre8913

Ай бұрын

@@dan3535351 A few were teenagers. But most were in their mid-to-late 20s.

@femtoeclipse860

29 күн бұрын

Many of the captains were only 21

Does anyone remember Memphis Bell?

@veteran20002001

2 ай бұрын

Never forget!

@bdockett

2 ай бұрын

It's on display at the National Museum of the US Air Force. Dayton. Its fully restored although probably not flyable. Anyone who likes aircraft should get to that museum at least once.

@pads-zr9ln

2 ай бұрын

wore the tape out of that film

@KnightPilot

2 ай бұрын

One of my favourite movies. Anyone know where it can be found today?

@miasma19

Ай бұрын

Grew up watching it with my dad, love that film and all the history surrounding these brave soldiers.

I like how they added the bits and pieces of the down places falling. I don’t remember seeing that in other movies alike

I had an uncle who flew in a Lancaster bomber for the RAF, and he was anything but a coward (like they were trying to portray them as in this show). His unit took incredible losses during the war, but they still got in those planes. I also had an American uncle who flew in a B17. I don't know what his MOS was in the plane, but the only thing he would ever say about the war was that one can not imagine the horror that you feel hearing your friends screaming as their planes fell out of the sky. He also commented to me once about how fanatical the German fighter pilots were. They were defending their homes, so who wouldn't be? All in all, these kids on both sides were brave, and they died like flies. War is a terrible thing. It pits one kid against another. They personally don't have a grudge against the other, but they have to fight to stay alive. I always treated our Iraqi prisoners with respect for this reason. They were doing what I would have done in their situation. These men came out to fight one of the best fighting forces in the world, and they did so with old and sometimes used up rifles. So they earned that respect.

What got me here is how they see one plane ignite, explode, slam into the other one and all you can do is watch. Also, how badly they want the relief of seeing parachutes.

@HeartFeltGesture

2 ай бұрын

Its more that they need to mark the position if any parachutes are seen, for rescue missions, but yes relief also.

Comparing this to show Band of Brothers or The Pacific is chalk and cheese. Perhaps viewing the Battle of Britain from the British perspective would carry more weight.

@avrracer4175

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂nö denn die Engländer wollten den Krieg oder warum ist Churchill auf Hitlers Gesuch nicht eingegangen, das Churchill zwischen Polen und dem Dritten Reich nicht vermitteln wollte ?? England, Polen, Frankreich und die USA sind am Krieg genauso schuldig eigentlich die Schuldigen !

This episode hit me hard couldn't believe what those guys went through let alone such actually happen especially how many came back from the mission

@ironnads7975

2 ай бұрын

It didn't go down like this....this is very hollywooded up

@Novice127__

2 ай бұрын

What was it like @@ironnads7975

@Folgeantrag

2 ай бұрын

​@@ironnads7975 it is an accurate depiction. This shows the Air Raid on Muenster on the 10 Oktober 1943. The 100th Bombardment Group was a part of. They started with 13 B17 in England. 12 were shot down. Only one came back. The bloody Hundred lost 177 Airplanes during the war, so the whole unit was destroyed several times. The 8th USAAF lost over 5100 Airplanes during the war more than 26000 of their airmen were killed in action.

@yorgonosch7225

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@Folgeantrag The numbers might be matching but this is everything but a “accurate depiction” 110% Hollywood 😂

@dac5782

2 ай бұрын

​@@yorgonosch7225 You can read about "Royal Flush" if you're unconvinced, but it did actually happen. You can also read about "Old 666", I believe it went through similar circumstances against around 17 Zeros.

These flying scenes just look shockingly bad. We waited so long for this series and we got this.

@PPCmenace

2 ай бұрын

CGI overkill. Ruined.

@timbridger4681

2 ай бұрын

Y'all are yapping. CGI? Really? What did you expect? 100 real pilots piloting 100 real ww2 airplanes? The way the scenes are portrayed is from the crew's perspective. It makes perfect sense.

@popu_85

2 ай бұрын

They didnt even respect the laws of physics in some scenes..

@PXCBIKES

2 ай бұрын

Yeh I don't think I will be watching this series at all ....I prefer Menphis belle or battle of Britain

@erikw1636

2 ай бұрын

@@popu_85 I know! somehow, while flying at 200+mph you are surrounded by debris floating as if it was in water, not in air and bound by gravity, and somehow keeping up with the B-17 and not disappearing in the rear as the plane propelled forward at speed. Idiotic.

Rosenthal is a legend. He dogfights and beats multiple BF-109s in a B-17.

Holy shit the pieces of the 2 bombers that collided just floating down around them that was f'ing spooky as hell.

I know an elderly German woman from Munster. She was visiting her daughter in Kentucky about 30 years ago. One of the neighbors came over and said. "You're from Munster? I was a gunner during the war. We bombed Munster" She was not pleased

I loved this series!! CG or not! Most closest thing to being on those missions I will ever get to!! ❤

POV: Me and the boise practicing beginner maneuvers for our PPL and there is a single traffic nowhere near us

Brutal battle. Insane evasive flying.

@ironnads7975

2 ай бұрын

Not even close to realistic

@dac5782

2 ай бұрын

​@@ironnads7975 Likely dramatized, but it was something that actually happened with that individual bomber (though I've heard the scene was actually toned down, so who knows, I guess).

@idlzruf

2 ай бұрын

Look up Ole 666 it happened in the pacific

@jordan6049

2 ай бұрын

@@ironnads7975You are so wrong lol.

@wolfsigma

2 ай бұрын

@@idlzrufTrue... but that was a heavily modified bomber that didn't have a full bomb load (it was on a photo recon mission) and was at much lower altitude. To fly a B-17 around like that at high altitude and with a full bomb load goes way past what the air-frame could do.

Feels a Bit Like the wolfenstein intro

Remember, a young Charles Bronson was like one of those guys, after bombing Germany during WWII he got their unexpressive eyes.

@CraigWilliams-gg7sm

11 күн бұрын

Charles Bronson was a gunner on a B29. Being on a B17 was cold. Your oxygen mask would freeze up do to the cold, if one of your buddies was seriously wounded somebody had to make sure is mask didn't freeze up. You shot your guns in short burst to prevent over heating of the barrel. You had only one minute to take your glove off if you changed out your barrel. After that your hand was too cold to do any work. The top gunner had to be careful no to shoot the tail off the plane. If he did the pilot had to use the engine thrust of each wing to guide back to England. It was important to keep communication open and not hog the radio. When you got back to base bring out the two inch hose.

1:13 even not in slo mo this must have been surreal seeing chunks of B-17 falling all around them.

@guts-141

2 ай бұрын

Due to their weights being lighter. It falls a lot slower

@ironnads7975

2 ай бұрын

Not even realistic

@miltiade2510

2 ай бұрын

Great show ​@@ironnads7975

@alexwilliamson1486

2 ай бұрын

@@ironnads7975so what was it like flying in the daylight campaign 1942-45? …..hello?…anyone?…..🤡

Seeing those metal pieces fall calmly through the sky is similar to when you're in Afghanistan, and all of a sudden, all of the locals disappear, everything gets quiet, you're not getting shot at and there are no explosions. It's the real-life version of "boss music" from a video game. Everything is calm right now. It won't be for very long.

Adults: amazing show to understand what those men did for our freedom Kids: CGI is bad

@TheAmericanKid94

2 ай бұрын

I mean, it is though.

@michaelgarcia4035

2 ай бұрын

​@TheAmericanKid94 it could be so much worse. This project started as "The Mighty Eighth" movie. That trailer had some rough effects. We got off lucky with this one

@TheBoundlessNexus

2 ай бұрын

I'll be real, your joke is funny af, but I'd like to boomer out here for a second and offer context some might not be thinking of... So, I remember watching these types of movies/shows back in highschool (2011-2015) and understanding it took guts, but the full gravity of what I was watching didn't hit me till I was about 22 and was told by family elders "that guy could and just might have been you, if you were around back then" and that's a wild realization to have, which most don't. They see actors, CGI, and imperfections, and can you blame them? They simply lack the world skills and context that come with being a more mature adult. It's almost better these kids don't have to understand that harsh truth too early, it's basically what these incredibly brave men fought for! Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED Talk, hope you have a blessed one :)

@TheAmericanKid94

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelgarcia4035 True. To be totally fair CGI for this kind of project is necessary considering there are only 4 flyable B17's in existence. That being said, it could have been better. Also did they have to CGI the desert scenes? Like they couldn't just go to the desert and film? Seemed lazy tbh.

@guts-141

2 ай бұрын

@@TheAmericanKid94 they relied on the CGI screen a lot for background acting rather than going to locations these days. Probably cheaper for them Still doesn't stop me from enjoying the stories

É filme ou série? Tem na Netflix?

This scene and the entire story is very emotional, just think all those brave guys were not older than 25 years old. It is the best series I have seen for a long time, and based on true facts.

He no longer must stay in formation. Fights back.

Not detracting from the bravery of the bomber crews AT ALL... but we had a B-17 crewman who completed 25 missions speak at our school back in the '80s. He told us he never fought Geman fighter planes. He saw them in the distance a couple times, but they never engaged. He did mention how terrible the flak was, and they lost some planes that way. Yes, I've seen the gun camera footage of German fighters shooting down B-17s, so I know it did happen, I just wonder if it was a common event.

@samd8669

2 ай бұрын

It was pretty common in 42 and 43 when Germany actually had pilots. A lot of the guys who flew missions for the first two years would have faced hoardes of enemy fighters, but by the time the war was ending German planes in the sky were basically nonexistent. A relative of mine took part in the 8th Air Force's very first bombing mission on July 4 1942. On that mission, the cockpit of his B-17 took a direct hit from a Fw 190's 20mm cannon, killed co pilot and severely injured the pilot. They were shot down a few weeks later by another 190.

@TheMinipily

2 ай бұрын

Where you are in the formation and where your bomber group may be in the whole bombing raid can pay a huge part. He may have found himself getting quite lucky with his plane not being in the most dangerous positions.

@bmused55

2 ай бұрын

That vet had it easy, must have been late 1944 or sometime in 45 he flew his missions. In 1942 and 1943 the bombers had a rough time as they had no escort. It is also historically accurate that the entire squadron bar one plane was shot down on this mission. 13 entered German airspace only 1 came back. It was that brutal.

@avrracer4175

Ай бұрын

​@@bmused55warum brutal ?? Wenn deine Heimat angegriffen wird dann wird Kampf und Verteidigung zur Pflicht... Ich möchte nur an Dresden 45 erinnern oder Hamburg oder Lübeck oder Bremen oder oder wo die Kranken GIs bewusst Brandbomben geworfen haben und so 90% der Städte komplett unbrauchbar wurden.... Umso mehr zeigt es wenn Deutsche in Frieden gelassen werden was daraus erwachsen kann. Kultur, Bildung, Wissen!!!

@thosdot6497

Ай бұрын

There are a number of verified accounts of the Luftwaffer putting up 200 and 300 fighters in massed attacks - if you were at the front of the formation you would definitely have seen them!

"When airplane engines fall to the ground, it's like a piece of paper."

@stevetheduck1425

2 ай бұрын

Photographic evidence shows that engines separated from the bomber, in a fireball, were still running. Here on YT, look up Nike missile B-17 test.

@bmused55

2 ай бұрын

It's called artistic license. The director is trying to convey the moment of horror, seeing bits of bombers falling all around you.

@wakka4211

Ай бұрын

​@@bmused55Whatever you call it, it looked ridiculous

@rikk319

27 күн бұрын

@@wakka4211 I'm guessing you don't know the meaning of the word drama, or expect every film to be a staid documentary.

@wakka4211

27 күн бұрын

@@rikk319 you aren't supposed to change the laws of physics to make something dramatic. It looks absolutely ridiculous. Tons of the CGI in this show was completely ridiculous in the way planes moved. It was awful

One of the best clip ever 🔥🔥🔥

No matter the side, war is absolute hell

Ball turrets are an awesome feat of engineering of the time.

@Sharky2901

2 ай бұрын

Yes they are but DEADLY too !

@jameslachance8159

2 ай бұрын

@@Sharky2901 yes they must have been. For the airman inside. Tail gunner as well.

@veteran20002001

2 ай бұрын

They had balls as big as the turrent themselves!

@fotograf736

2 ай бұрын

Not if you were in one.

@XenoPoopz

Ай бұрын

@@fotograf736 Statistically ball turret was one of the safest positions in a b-17. It was more deadly to be a waist gunner

Increible escena. Pude sentir toda la acción en mi estómago. He visto muchas películas de este tipo desde niño y los b17 son mi bombardero favorito. Tal vez estuve en alguno en una vida anterior o en algún caza protegiéndolos.

Love this scene because Rosie shows how good of a pilot and leader he is

Beautiful clip ❤❤

THEY SAY HELL IS 5 MILE UP

What title is this ?

The musical sting as the B-17 flies away from the camera revealing it was all alone, it's like a reveal in a horror movie. Normally this was a death sentence. For anyone commenting that a B-17 would never be able to make those manoeuvres, and that the scene is unrealistic: check yourselves. This happened. By all accounts the manoeuvres we see in the show are toned down a little. Both Rosenthal and his co-pilot had to wrestle the controls to make their B-17 fly like it did. The tactic worked, they got home. The only positive thing about not being in a formation is you can manoeuvre to make yourself a hard target. Had Rosenthal still had another bomber in formation with him at this point, I doubt either would have made it as they would have been forced to fly straight and in tight formation.

realism level : star wars

@stephencarter4304

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Would have thought they’d attempt a more realistic portrayal out of respect to the crews. A real misjudgment. Will be avoiding.

@ghostviggen

2 ай бұрын

@@stephencarter4304The series is excellent despite the less realistic air battles.

@mattmaloney404

2 ай бұрын

Actually there are records of wounded b-17s "dogfighting" 109s like this. Probably not to this level, obviously. But as far as turning in to cut firing time, chasing and manuvering so non-wounded gunners had a shot. Wounded B-17s were known to do anything to avoid bailing out.

@Wildcat221

4 күн бұрын

It’s a tv show…. Chill

@commando6261

4 күн бұрын

Wherabo level, detected.

It must have been like hell in the air....

0:30 “There’s a hole in your left wing!”

the way the debris falls without the slgihtest tumble really stands out, the rest looks ok

Greatest generation for a reason

@ianmiles7916

Ай бұрын

huh, not those that fought in WW1 and then WW2?

This is Will Poulter on the screensaver?

It must have been terrifying

I wonder if they have interlocks on the top turret to prevent shooting your own tail off.

@RicdelCampo1

Ай бұрын

Yes.

Где можно смотрет фильм полностью?

Is this war thunder game play video lol

Insane how many men sacrificed their lives in the air battles of WW2.

The airplane physics in this series is so painful..

Holy moly...that was amazing. 😮

They seriously didn't do their research on some of these aircraft. I am finding a crap load of mistakes. I feel they rushed to get this show out. I watched the last episode the other night and a scene was shown from the tail end of a B-17 and the right elevator was down while the left one was in its neutral position. Ya, that doesn't happen, nor can it.

@thosdot6497

Ай бұрын

The show was in preparation and production since 2013. And - "a crap load of mistakes" - it's not perfect, but they have gone to quite some lengths to get the details mostly right. There are other YT channels that do a much better job than "a crapload of mistakes" in telling us what's not correct. I recommend you look them up.

Good to have these clips - I can see I want to watch nothing further of what is basically a comic book with real actors in it.

No way you do any maneuver with such a hole in the wing.

... "shot down in flames!!!"

Wow!!!!!!

are these bomber manoeuvre realistic?

Honestly dude, F U C K being a bomber crew ill take my chances as a fighter or on the ground. MASSIVE respect to those who served as one though. Balls. Of. Steel.

@karenosborn116

2 ай бұрын

My dad was the co-pilot of one of those bombers. He flew 30+ missions. I’m proud to have his Distinguished Flying Cross…🇺🇸❤️

@volkerwestphal3746

2 ай бұрын

After the war, they noticed that most people they had killed were women and children. Wonder whether this is shown by Spielberg and Hanks. I guess not.

Found one! Belt at 2:22. XD

@luuko656

2 ай бұрын

well spotted!

the definition of "Flying Fortress"

Damn didnt know the bomber was such a nimble fighter with those moves -.-

@peterbassey9668

Ай бұрын

When push comes to shove, even I would've given that a try. What is more, they were no longer in formation with other bombers. The B-17s were constructed sturdy and tough, if it couldn't take that bit of rough flying then it didn't deserve the name Fortress.

この映画はどこで視れるの⁉️

Memphis Belle remains the far superior filmed account of this. This isn't a patch on Das Boot or Band of Brothers either.

I can’t imagine how durable those planes were if you could get shot up and fly that aggressively which according to legend is what happened.

What a horrible scene, all those plan parts falling from the sky..... what a fear they must have felt.

Good grief. Flying the B-17 bomber like it is a fighter is a bit much to believe.

0:32 those planes exploded a little bit too quickly. In my opinion, when they bumped into each other, I mean planes that blow up just as soon as they make a small bump, who who built these planes, general motors??

@MiguelOrellana-nx6ri

Ай бұрын

En el segundo 0:41 se puede ver que el avión tocó para mí parecer el compartimiento de combustible haci que si el avión pudo explotar por que como el combustible es inflamable con una pequeña chispa se incendia todo

@eopodermental

Ай бұрын

eram avioes da boing

Did the 109s really shoot rockets? That doesn't sound right. Someone please fill me in. Thanks!

@williammarshall8265

2 ай бұрын

Yes they had rockets that they would lob into bomber formations on a timed explosive. They would explode kind of like flak. They weren't all that effective.

@Melior_Traiano

2 ай бұрын

Germans innovated many of the weapon systems that we still use today. They basically invented the assault rifle, air-to-air missiles, the jet fighter, swept wing, revolver cannon, cruise missiles, intercontinental missiles, wire guided weapons, etc.. They had to be innovative, because they knew that was their only chance at beating the allies, who could easily outproduce them. They also pioneered many air combat tactics, such as flying in a two ship formation with a single wingman.

@thosdot6497

Ай бұрын

@@Melior_Traiano - what I've usually found is that a lone Frenchman or Brit discovered something first, but were ignored; and the Germans paid attention and were the first to actually use it.

@Melior_Traiano

Ай бұрын

@@thosdot6497 I don't know about that, but the French and British obviously made major contributions as well. I don't think you can say that one (European) country per se has contributed more than the others. For example, I once heard a saying that "the Germans invented the automobile, but the French perfected it", since French carmakers were quite innovative early on.

Yo. That’s awesome

@Mrtwopiece

2 ай бұрын

Not really

I've never seen a 109 with the 20mm cannon in the cowl it shot through the propeller nor have I seen a B17 that can out maneuver a 109

@laurencefausold5555

2 ай бұрын

Starting with the Bf-109F, the fighter carried a 20 mm cannon firing through the propeller shaft. Some versions fired a 15 mm cannon as well. The Bf-109 G-6 carried a 30 mm cannon that fired through the propeller shaft.

@pietkoster1935

2 ай бұрын

You were there? Rosenthal made his B-17 a difficult target by manouvering to the limit of breaking apart. He was lucky and the Germans not. BF 109 had many versions. 1943 could probably be the F1-F2 version with Motorkanone.

@pietkoster1935

2 ай бұрын

f-4 or g-series.

@HoboTango

2 ай бұрын

Ill correct your sentence Mark : "Iv never seen a 109 nor have I seen a B17."

@markbrandon7359

2 ай бұрын

@@pietkoster1935 Yeah and just like in the new midway move the Dauntless was able to out maneuver the Zero when the US didn't even possess a fighter that could

we know they were fighting for the wrong side, but those german pilots were brave as f..k

The RAF bombers had a manoeuvre called the corkscrew. There is at least one account of a German fighter trying unsuccessfully for a long time to get a shot at a bomber performing this tactic.

I find it annoying that hand-operated gun mounts (waist, radio room and bow) sound like they mount M2HB variant (not just in that scene, everywhere in the show). It should be the same light-barrelled AN/M2 as in the turrets, with higher rate of fire. Slow "dut-dut-dut" sounds out of place.

@thosdot6497

Ай бұрын

had to smile at this - everyone else is moaning about this and that, and you drill right down and complain about the cyclic rate of the hand-held guns. Well done!

AI B-29 is deployed again in the drone era.

Some of that footage there is a little over the top.

Were they the ones flying to bomb Dresden? 🤨

I'll hit the speed brakes, and they fly right by me. 🙂

How did they not shoot each other when they flew in the box formation.

WW2 heavy bombers dog fighting single engine fighters ?!?!?!?!

the scene with falling fragments just...looks...bad...

Airman in a bomber was the worst place a soldier could be in WW2.

@peterbassey9668

Ай бұрын

Submarine, if you ask me.

I like how the marketing pitched Cleven as the uber-pilot, when all along it was Rosey. Cleven would have tried to be macho and flew straight on into the Messerschmitts, Rosey said F that, now my fort is an oversized P-38, deal with it krauts!

German air force was fighting last defence against allied civilian killers.

I guess Hollywood will never stop going back to the well of WW2

Eso es un pamplinas de Steven spielberg y de George Lucas las mejores películas de este género están en 12 o'clock high y en otras películas que hizo glenn Ford y el actor de cine

A lone B-17 against multiple 109s? It would have been over in under a minute for the Fortress as the 109s could fire their 20mm cannons out of range of the 50 bmgs. And the pilot flying the bomber like it was a fighter?

@owensteam

2 ай бұрын

This “clip” is pretty dumb isn’t it

@bmused55

2 ай бұрын

This actually happened and the pilot did get it home.

@bmused55

2 ай бұрын

@@owensteamdo some research. It actually happened. And they got home.

@owensteam

2 ай бұрын

@@bmused55 the single bomber coming home is a well documented fact but it didn’t happen like that. Use your brain it’s Hollywood

The CGI is not quite right.

@sarahbolton9140

Ай бұрын

What u mean its perfect

How high were they flying without oxygen?

@stevetheduck1425

2 ай бұрын

They wore oxygen masks in every scene? Usually, going above 10,000 feet means the average person needs oxygen ( airliners are pressurised for this reason ), but some WWII crews flew higher than that before using oxygen. B-17s could go up to 30,000 feet, reputedly, but not with a useful bombload.

@megoblks

2 ай бұрын

​@@stevetheduck1425 you don't at all need 02 at 10k

This episode felt weird. I grew up in Münster, went to University there...

0:31 you got a hole in your right wing!!

Did this incident actually occur as shown in the clip? Downing LW fighters with ease and essentially dogfighting 109s with a B-17? Or is this yet another case of Hollywood taking a huge dose of creative license. I'm aware of only one case where a B-17F cockpit crew did what they could when they faced over half a dozen Japanese Zeros in the SW Pacific in '42 or '43 but this Munster raid depiction is new to me.

ROFL at the B-17 engaging in a dogfight against a Bf-109.

"Let's make this as gritty, realistic and successful as BoB!" "100%. But also we'll have a scene of a B-17 maneuvering around and taking out a bunch of fighters." "Sounds legit."

@lsebk1

2 ай бұрын

It may not be accurate but they probably wanted to dramatise it to show just how good a pilot Robert Rosenthal was.

@dac5782

2 ай бұрын

Probably somewhat dramatized for effect, but the events did actually happen: it took the combined strength of Rosenthal and Lewis to get the B-17 to make manuvers so severe that the waist gunners were just barely holding on. Intetsting of note is DeBlasio (tail gunner) apparently scoring six kills during the defense, though they were never confirmed on account of no witnesses being present to confirm any kills, and that this was stated in a letter DeBlasio wrote to Rosenthal post-war; the 8th claimed 105 kills while the Germans only listed 25 losses, so it's theoretically possibly those six might've been his, though he and the other gunners certainly did their bit. "Royal Flush" (along with "Old 666", a bomber in a similar bind) was an interesting bomber to read up on, and I would recommend further reading since that'll do more justice to the story than a KZread comment section.

@user-rs3jn1sg9z

2 ай бұрын

BoB was live action

@mickeyhynes

2 ай бұрын

Spiers running through the German lines at Foy was pretty unbelievable too. Sometimes mad things happen.

@MyNamesJohnny14

2 ай бұрын

Somebody doesn’t play war thunderrrrrrr…