Thats the best explanation of a eye splice I've ever seen thanks. I do have trouble with getting the end back through the cover im going to look into some of your tools thanks.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by. The right tools and rope can make a massive difference when you are learning. We would really appreciate it if you use the product links in the description of the video if you are going to pick up some of the tools of the trade 👍

@MrCubflyer

Ай бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats is there a preferred brand of line you prefer?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@MrCubflyer no preference, really depends on the use case. When you are first starting it is best to get double braid where their is a good gap between the cover and the core. It can be worth a trip to the boat store to select one with a gap to practise. Once you have done a few you should be able to pull if off with most double braids

I will never during the rest of my life do this. However, I gave a like just because it's so good to see an expert do what he does best and explain it so beautifully.

@BottomUPBoats

5 күн бұрын

Wow, I hope the reason for not giving it a go is down to the fact that you will never have the need to put a neap loop into the end of of a length of Double Braid Rope.... If you ever need one then my advice is give it a go..... Thanks for leaving what now ranks as the nicest comment we have ever received at Bottom Up Boats !!!!!!!!

I ahd no idea how this was done, thank you! Of course I've not seen these tools before and realize they are almost essential. Great explanation, good camera work and details.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for stopping by and for the feedback. Glad you like the video and hope you find time to get the tools and give it a go yourself.

Great explanation. Also explains why it was easier to develop rocket science than to sail to the moon. 👍

@BottomUPBoats

6 күн бұрын

With clear instructions even the impossible is possible :)

This is an excellent video with attention to details. I found it really helpful. Thanks!

@BottomUPBoats

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to share your feedback. Comments like this inspire us to do more... Glad you found it useful !!!

Thanks for the lesson very apreciated❤

@BottomUPBoats

3 ай бұрын

My pleasure, always nice to get a shout out that viewers got some value from our content !

Awesome and Thank You!

@BottomUPBoats

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by and for leaving some feedback. Glad you liked it :)

Thank you . I have actually made my own long reins for training my horse. So much better learning a new skill. Thanks again

@BottomUPBoats

24 күн бұрын

Love it !!!! 100% agreed that learning new skills is what life is all about. Thanks to KZread for creating a platform that makes anything possible !!

I just completed my 1st one, Yaaaaa! That was very difficult, but I’ve got about 15 more to do. Thanks for your video instruction.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Congratulations 🥳 🥳🥳 Trust Me when I say they get easier with each one you do and you can always come back and watch along as you continue to master this sailing skill !!!

Excellent idea to use the contrasting green coloured marker

@BottomUPBoats

24 күн бұрын

:) setup all the lighting to record and started to find out that my red one had dried out. Sadly the kids only had green in the pencil cases :(

I will need to create a new eye on the end of my winch rope when it breaks. You made it look so easy which I’m sure won’t be when I need to try this? After I rewatch your video 20-30 times hopefully I will remember enough to get me thru? Thank You for the info so far,great instruction!

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

@allanarndt3047 more than happy for you to watch this 30 times 😁. I see you watched my earlier video in single braid. Based off the use case you described and the rope type you have purchased I would go for that option. I left some more detail there for you.

@jakeowens1770

Ай бұрын

Video could have been more clear. Slow videos are more confusing

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@jakeowens1770 it is always a balance between speed and delivery of the message. We try to make our video so you can follow along in real time to complete the process. First timers could take 30 minutes to do their first one, rewatching the key steps several time. More experiences splicers my be able to go faster and skip bits. The magic of KZread lets the viewers choose, skip bits if we are too slow or rewind and re-watch if you need a second take. Thanks for stopping by and for leaving your feedback.

@jeremygourde9880

Ай бұрын

I hope you have double braided nylon and You will have to use the old Rope splicing method on your winch rope.

- for an imprpmptu D-splicer I like to bend some medium steel wire - twist a handle onto the sharp ends - giving one of custom length any time I need one in the bush....

@BottomUPBoats

6 күн бұрын

This is exactly how I made my first one. With that said we think it is hard to beat one of the current retail models that work a treat. D-Splicer amzn.to/3U1vK81

So the secret is magic!

@BottomUPBoats

26 күн бұрын

Watch the video a dozen times and you too will be able to pull a Rabbit out of your hat and make your first splice

Tank's verry interesting

@BottomUPBoats

16 күн бұрын

Anytime. Thanks for stopping by and leaving some feedback.

Nice choice of color marker. Let’s use the same color as the rope.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

I went for the red one only to find out it had dried out when I went to use it. Sadly green was all I had handy which was working :(

It seems like it would be less complicated, but clearly, that's not the case. I don't think I'd ever remember that method, which means I'd have to refer back to it every time I need to do an eye splice.

@BottomUPBoats

6 күн бұрын

Nothing wrong with that, and one of the reasons I made the video in the first place :)

I do slings for the mechanics I work with. HD Mechanics. A lot of 3/4 ans 1 inch. At the last step I come out of the main line about 3 inches from the base of the loop/eye. I never take any of the ropes innards as you do and as I finish there are 3 layers of rope at that union. Far superior splice. Harder to do but these guys are animals with there slings. Setting a thimble is a good one to show as well.

@BottomUPBoats

22 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing I will check both of these out an schedule them for future release !!!!

@TomokosEnterprize

22 күн бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats Awesome. 1 inch dual braid is no slack dtuff and puting in a eye splice can often need a come along to get that last bit done but It really is worth it. 2 on a eye splice can hold a D8G thack frame. I have seen the line reduce itself down to a 7/16 th and not fail. Love that stuff eh.

I've seen a couple videos on this, but your description is fantastic. Thank you. Can you recommend a splice tool for 5/8" line? I'll probably grab a set of the Selma/RONSTAN, but it says it only goes up to 9/16". I kinda think that 5/8 must be close enough for this work, but curious what you would suggest?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

I have a set of these and thing they will cover the rope size you are going for. There is always variation I the spacing between the core and the cover. Depending on this you often need to go up or down a size. If you purchase from my links and get stuck you can always make a home made D-Splicer from an old bit of wire. Don’t think it will come to that, if it does drop us a line and we can talk you through how to do it 👍

I think I’ll just buy one 😮😮

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Always and option, however, trust me when I say it is highly satisfying when you learn how to do it yourself.

@SM-dv6wi

Ай бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats kudos to you! It does take talent to splice lines….one day I’ll pick up the tool you use , watch this video again , sit on the deck and try to do it! Thanks for posting!

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@SM-dv6wi patients and persistence will get you there and the feeling of accomplishment when you do it will be worth the effort. 👍

When I do 3 or 4 eye splices in a day in hands feel like I sanded them and my grip is flimsy for a day or so. Good video, thanks.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

My office hands often feel the same way, using a set of gloves like the ones below will help. Especially when it comes to milking the lines inside each other. amzn.to/3U6KkvR

Looks easy but it bloody complicated I will just tie a knot😁😁😁

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

It is not that complicated after you have done a few. Knots are great by reduce the breaking strength of the rope, plus you have got to admit that these look cool when you are done. Be brave and give it a go !!!!

Will this have the full strength of the original rope? I would like to make an eye splice in the keel raising rope on my Ross 780, instead of using a Bowline. Some concerns I have though is will it hold and will it run over the pulleys ok?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Yes it will have the same breaking strain of the rope, with a bowline you will loose around 30% One of the top reasons to learn to splice.

@zooknut

Ай бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats thanks, I have successfully made one splice before but it wasn’t pretty. Your video was much better at explaining it. I also just watched the eye splice in Dyneema cored rope. I am very confident working with Dyneema, I think I will use that method. Or fit an ATV electric winch with Dyneema rope and make it effortless.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@zooknut all great options which will do the job. Thanks for the feedback, you can always come back and watch along as you do more. The will get prettier and you will be able to call yourseelf a master of the skill before you know it. !!!!!

Looks so easy, but is tough to make

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

The first few times can be tricky but as with anything it gets easier the more times you do it. If you make sure there is a good distance between the inner and outer core of the rope you choose you should be fine 👍

SOOOOOOO much work for a simple eye splice.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Yes but it is soooooooo with it.

Very interesting, but I'll just buy what spliced lines I need. Cool vid, though!

@BottomUPBoats

20 күн бұрын

Where is the fun in that 😝 I am sure you would feel differently after competing your first home made one 👍

@Nitrox4me

20 күн бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats Yeah, true. If I needed many I'd take the time for sure. I can, however, easily splice ski rope 😎

@BottomUPBoats

19 күн бұрын

@@Nitrox4me planning to do demo's in 3 and 5 strand rope which sailors use of docking lines. From memory I think they will be similar.

Gosh looking at all the do this do that mark here mark there, I'm sure he knows how but looks like a lot of extra work, I guess my final outcome wouldnt look like that good luck to all

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Yes it is extra work but we think it is worth it. Be brave and give it a go !!!

(Asking for a friend) if you need a loop, why not tie a figure-8 or overhand on a bite?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Knots reduce the breaking strain of the line and can create bumps which sheet and halyards can get caught on when the are in use on your boat. The splice maintains the breaking strain of the rope and is neater.... Plus it looks cook :)

@imaphxaznative

Ай бұрын

@BottomUPBoats makes sense. Thanks for sharing this & I also enjoyed your soft shackle video 📹.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@imaphxaznative that for the feedback !!! Always nice to hear from viewers who are enjoying our content ..... 👍👍👍👍

Nope....ships store; I need a docking line please

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Ah sorry about that is on my list to do. Are you looking for a three strand or a 5 strand demo so I know which one to do first?

What is the strength compared to the rope itself?

@BottomUPBoats

28 күн бұрын

It will be almost the same as the rope on it's own. This is one of the primary reasons for splicing as you only loose a few % points, unlike a knot like a bowline where the same loop will cost you 30 to 40% percent depending on how it is tied.

I bought a wire wrap tool and just make a loop and wire clinch it, and then heatshrink a sleeve on over the wire. Why? I megabraid rope! It’s insane to splice!

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Thanks sharing your process, budget is definitely the way to go for people who don't do it that often and a good way to get starting. Personally we like to have the pro tools of the trade :)

wo.......

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Don’t Wo…. Why not give it a go ?

Saw someone in Shri Lanka do this in 2 minutes with a nail and used motor oil

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Love it, this comment proves the many doubters on the validity of the title wrong. Who new all I needed was a little bit of motor oil to grease the rope to make everything run smoothly :)

_Rope and knots_ ... *the stuff of magic!"* p.s. folks? see *_"The Ditty Bag Book"_* :-)

@BottomUPBoats

7 күн бұрын

Yes indeed, mystical forces at play with this one.

@BenTrem42

7 күн бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats What really blows me away ... and maybe someone can document this ... _someone got it almost right after _*_a whole string of people tried it with lousy results!_* ;-) ^5

@BottomUPBoats

7 күн бұрын

@@BenTrem42 always happy to hear our videos are helping people learn a new skill. The more you do it the easier it gets.

Yes everybody's right great video easy you explained everything well the only problem I have is it can't be done it's physically impossible how are you going to pull the cover and the core through the cover it can't be done

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

The knot that you make are the 6:30 mark is in the cover which are this point of the splice is inside the core. When you undo this knot and taper it at the 10:00 mark and then complete the splice these two thickness slide back into the cover at the top end of the eye this is why we made this statement. The very end of the cover which is inside the core slide back into the core further up the standing end of the rope. Once complete, their will be three addition thicknesses of rope just above the eye (on top of the 2 in the original double braid). This is why we we taper the ends to allow up to fit the three addition thickness inside the original two of the rope. I agree it is hard to explain and visualise when we make the statement, no need to focus on this, if you follow the steps you will be able to learn this great skill.

Your video makes it look so simple! Thanks for sharing.! Just a couple of questions 1. Is the end eye size smaller than what you initially measured off? It's hard to tell from the video, but it looks smaller. Do I need to account for some shrinkage with the burys? 2. If the eye splice is used for a dock line, does it need to be stitched or whipped to keep from coming undone with repeated loosening and tightening? 3. I have an old double braid mainsheet I want to turn in to a dock line, so it's pretty stretched out. I've washed it several times to get the salt out. Any tricks for splicing an eye splice into "mature" line? Or am I wasting my time?

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

@GeoffWalsh, after are few attempts with the right type of rope and the correct tools of the trade you too will be able to make it look this easy. 1. The eye will normalise to the size you marked it at in the early stages of the video after the initial load. It may be slightly smaller in the video as I shot the picture straight after doing the last step by hand,. The first time you use it under load it will normalise to the markings you made in the first steps of the video. 2. You don't need to stitch it to lock it in place, it should hold. You can do it to be extra secure but this splice is designed to operate without it. If you do want to do it check out our video on this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWaDsZemZ7bPj9o.html 3. The choice of rope is really important for learning this splice, if there is not a lot of space between the core and the cover if can be really hard to do the bury steps. If the mains sheet is old and stretched my guess is it will be really hard, if not impossible to do this splice, you could give it a go but will learn how hard it will be as you soon as you try to get the core out of the cover. The other suggestion you could try is this splice. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWyn1Jelhteyj6w.html This one has less thickness in the final step to finish it off. You loose the strength of the cover around the full length of the loop but is should be strong enough as a docking line. 4. Final option if you can't complete the final bury of the cover as it is stretch to pull the cover through is do pull the core out of the cover about a foot from where the top of your eye will be. Do the eye splice one end fixed on the core then bury the cover in the core and whip it to hold it in place. Good luck with either option 3 or 4.

Try like 180 min?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

180 mins is still minutes...... With a couple of test runs these can be completed in less than 20 minutes with the right tools and rope.

There is another way using a large sailmakers needle. Probably too hard for landlubbers to master!

@BottomUPBoats

18 күн бұрын

I would love to learn more no this method

The last step is the hardest. It takes brute strength. A rubber mallet and a lot of cursing are helpful. It’s not accomplished in minutes, at least not by me!

@BottomUPBoats

20 күн бұрын

If this was your first one well done. Cursing and a rubber mallet are great additions. I avoid the cursing to remain add friendly on KZread 😜 The title was worded to hook you and make viewers believe they could give it a go. Even if it took you 3 hours that is still 180 minutes 🤔 Thanks for stopping by and sharing your experience !!!!

In an hour.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

which = 60 minutrs :)

Whats the tools called?

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

In the video we used two types fids and a D-Splicer. Product links to pick up as set are in the video description if you want to give it a go yourself. Also attaching them below D-Splicer amzn.to/3U1vK81 Splicing Fids amzn.to/394q5sO

@davexvs

2 ай бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats IRSCorp Cable Pulling Grip Sock Kit Galvanizing Steel Antislip Pipe Cable Wire Pulling Grips Lassos Set Flexible Eye Mesh Rope Blue various sizes also a good tool to have {:-) PAV UK

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

@@davexvs thanks for this, I will have to check these out.

@jaysonlima7196

Ай бұрын

What you called a d-splicer I always learned as a Chinese fid, maybe a difference of location (I’m on the mid coast of Maine) or perhaps a change in the times…

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@jaysonlima7196 have not heard it called this before, with that said I have only been in the splicing game for a handful of years. My first one was made out of a old off cut of wire so it could go by many names. In the links to the products I shared it is called a d-splicer. I can feel some research coming to learm more about the evolution of this one, maybe even a video to explain what I learn. 👍

To much for me , mind boggling.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Come on, don't be like that get the gear and give it a go !!!! It is easier than it looks :)

The cover taper was never correctly measured or started, its 8 pairs up from the mark to “T” then every 5th strand opposite pairs are cut, also the core was never properly tapered either for whether it was a 8, 12 or 16 strand core. This makes a huge difference in the cover into the core and core into cover transition and seating into x as well as the slack being able to be milked out if the cover to fully seat the eye and having the core not bind at “z”.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing, I was never taught the correct way to do this. I usually just picked a few then moved up towards the top. I am going to do some research, on the does and don't on this, could become my next video :)

Very good explanation and demo but, you can’t do it in “minutes” without a load of practice can you. I’d say you’re looking at about half an hour once you’ve got the steps memorised and don’t need to keep going back to the video, then after practice probably about 25 minutes per splice, which still doesn’t come under “in minutes” as a fair description.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Agree that it does take time to master the this skill with the first few attempts taking a lot longer. As you said after some practice you will be able to do it 25 minutes or less. If we work in seconds, minutes then hours and you can do in in less than 60 minutes I am going to hold firm on the title even if I was stretching the truth a little :)

jesus this looks complicated

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

The first attempt can talks some time but it gets easier the more you do it. If you have right tools and make sure the rope you start with has some space between the cover and the core you will be fine if you follow alone. We say give it a go and you will surprise yourself as you master this great sailing skill.

@snort455

Ай бұрын

splices are functional, look good, show craftsmanship. I always splice my ropes.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@snort455 totally agree, trust the process and results are all that you pointed out + more. 👍

Indem eine Menge Material entfernt wird, hält diese Schlaufe wesentlich weniger aus, als wenn ich die Schlaufe einfach verknoten. Sehr langwierig, viel Üben, nicht so zugfest! Wieso soll das also jemand machen? Nette Spielerei, aber für nichts gut.😮

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Es funktioniert tatsächlich genau das Gegenteil von dem, was Sie beschrieben haben. Wenn Sie eine Bugleine binden, um das Aussehen zu verbessern, verlieren Sie 40 % der Bruchfestigkeit der Leine. Durch die Verbindung verlieren Sie nichts. Es ist auch sauberer für Dinge wie Fockleinen, bei denen weniger Teile des Knotens vorhanden sind, die sich beim Wenden verfangen könnten. Ja, es dauert einige Zeit, aber es lohnt sich auf jeden Fall!!!

Why say "Master in minutes?" This takes hours of practice to get right and some more.

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

@marcgg9769 the team at Bottom up Boats use several tools to try and up our game and get or content seen by more people. I much of the feedback points towards good storytelling, emotive titles and great thumbnails as the keys to success. For this this video I used the AI within one of the tools to help with the title and it looks like it has helped up our game as this video has been viewed more in the first 2 months than any other we have published. While it only takes minutes to watch your first one will take you a while (maybe measured in hours). If you come back to the channel and keep practicing you will get it to minutes……

@user-nx1qf7hs5o

2 ай бұрын

The title is correct.Anyone that’s not simple can do this.Not rocket science.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@user-nx1qf7hs5o even if you first one takes as while you should be able to do it in less than 1 hours so we still count that as minutes :)

@wallacegrommet9343

Ай бұрын

I’m suing! Who’s with me?

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@wallacegrommet9343 I am ready for me day in court, may we can the judge to see if he can pull one of before he decides.... Even if it takes him 100 minutes the title could still be true 🙄

So...there is NO core in the "eye" ?!

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

There is both core and the outer braid all the way through the eye.

Hmmm 😢😢complicated

@BottomUPBoats

15 күн бұрын

After a couple of practice runs it is easier than it looks.

Don’t bother to try on used rope. You must create the eye splice using brand new rope. I used to enjoy doing it until some kind soul stole all my fids.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

100% that new rope is the way to do... Why not buy some new fids via the product links in the description and get back to it ?

I have the splice mastered...I pay the pro where I buy my ropes. Do anything else and you are flirting with disaster.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

I have never had one fail, so if you have it mastered I see no reason to pay the pro's....

@intheshell35ify

Ай бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats you misunderstand bottom up boats, which is a great name btw, I have "mastered it" by paying someone else a couple of dollars to do it. I got a lot to think about 80 foot up in a cottonwood, my ability to splice shouldn't be one of those things.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

@@intheshell35ify out-scouring is always and option 😃

Boring

@BottomUPBoats

19 күн бұрын

But effective is you want to learn this new skill 🤔

You must be kidding! Who would want to go through all that? It's far too complicated for a video as no one could remember al the incremental steps. Far better to demonstrate with visual text instructions. Even better, buy a new rope with the eyes you need.

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

Will have to agree to disagree with this one, sailors who are in the know will always take the time to learn this skill. They are stronger than knots and look great. It does take a few goes to get it right, that is the perfect reason to make a video so people can work through it at there own pace speeding up or rewinding until you have done it enough to commit it to memory.

this is disgusting

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

In what way ?

I am from USA, I need a translator…. thanks

@BottomUPBoats

Ай бұрын

That’s somewhat understandable when you are listening to an Ozzie in Belfast 🤔