Master batching lye - how and why?

Have you ever wondered how to master batch and why it's even useful to do so?
I will take you through the process of master batching lye, explain why you should try master batching lye and then take you through how to use your master batched lye once it's been made.
I'll also briefly touch on water discounts and water replacements specifically when you use a master batched lye solution
00:00 - Master batching lye - how and why?
00:07 - What is master batching?
03:29 - How to master batch lye solution
07:49 - How to use master batch lye solution
08:10 - A simple example of using master batch lye
10:00 - A real world example of using master batch lye
11:12 - Water Discount and Water replacements
11:15- Water Discount
13:11 - Water replacement
14:20 - And finally - a few thought on master batching lye.
Palm free Vegan Recipe
Cocoa Butter 26%;
Olive Oil 26%;
Coconut Oil, 76 deg 19%;
Avocado Oil 12%;
Babassu Oil 10%;
Castor Oil 7%;
Please run this through a soap calculator before using this recipe soap calculators can be found here:
SoapCalc: soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcWP.asp
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  • @paintingswithkay6151
    @paintingswithkay61514 ай бұрын

    Best explanation and easy math thus far in all the videos. Thank you. New to CP soap and doing my first master batching today.

  • @debralangfeld7603
    @debralangfeld7603 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I can't tell you how easy and informative this was to understand.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. I’d there’s anything else you think would be helpful explained please let me know.

  • @diagrier9963

    @diagrier9963

    Жыл бұрын

    @Queer Bull Soap Hello, I agree with Debra. It is very much appreciated ☺️. I do have a question: How would one go about adding Citric acid, Tussah silk fibers, Cane sugar & Sodium lactate to the 50/50 solution? I came to find that Tussah silk needs heat to dissolve. How would I go about incorporating those things?

  • @diagrier9963

    @diagrier9963

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QueerBullSoap Good afternoon AWESOMENESS. I'm confused on how to use the 50/50 lye solution. I plan to use my own formula/oil blend, with 50/50 solution that I currently have. Yet, I do not understand how to find out implementing the amount of extra water that I'll need. I use a Winston & Walter 7.5 pound soap mold (20.13" L x 2.56" W x 4" H), With a 1.5:1 water/lye ratio. Also, use a 7% superfat, 3% citric acid, and 1% silk fibers . Please help 🙏🏽

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    @DIA GRIER Hello. So if your lye solution is 1 part NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide) to 1 part liquid (i'll refer to this as "masterbatch" from here) the math is easy. For your masterbatch weight - double the NaOH weight from the recipe - this will give you the correct weight of lye plus the same weight of water. Next simply subtract the weight of the NaOH away from the full liquid weight in the recipe - that then gives you the weight of the additional water. eg: Liquid -120g NaOH - 50g Masterbatch = 50g x 2 = 100g New liquid weight = 120g - 50g (the water weight your lye is mixed into) = 70g Masterbatch weight = 100g New liquid weight = 70g and as a safety check - add up the liquid and NaOH weight then add up the Masterbatch and new liquid weight - and if they match your calculations are correct. The lye solution you have sounds like the one i made - so this should work for you

  • @MrsSniknah
    @MrsSniknah3 ай бұрын

    I've been using soap making friend, it has really taken a lot of the "fear" it if being adventurous with ingredients and I've learned so much from it.

  • @nickybias
    @nickybias6 ай бұрын

    I'm from norman oklahoma USA I wanted to say thank you brother I've learned almost everything from you my daughter has a skin issue and I make her soap and she does fine now!!!

  • @theirondungeon
    @theirondungeon8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this awesome video! At 9.25 is where i knew i got it down with the math and how i double-checked it!

  • @rosieeder5512
    @rosieeder55124 ай бұрын

    I would like to say thank you for this. I masterbatched for my first time and totally thought I wrote down the correct way to figure out my extra liquid. I did not in fact. So when I made soap yesterday I was getting a weird number so I just added 90 extra grams which I thought would be ok. But I decided to actually research what I was doing wrong. I was subtracting the doubled amount of mb lye with water amounts in recipes instead of the regular amount. Thank you for finally getting through my thick head. Instant follow.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    4 ай бұрын

    There are many ways to master batch and sometimes one persons way of explaining just sits in your head better. I’m glad this helped.

  • @DuchessArtisanCreations
    @DuchessArtisanCreations6 ай бұрын

    I'm getting into the soap-making CP business. I'm starting with a mold that won't put a dent in my pocket and that is quart-size milk cartons. Doing 1 color soap and testing the recipes so far I have 5 recipes and testing all soaps before I decide to go with that recipe and stick to that recipe. There is a secret additive I would like to try. Once I perfect my soap recipe then I am off to the 2024 Pride Festival to sell, I'm so excited.

  • @TheVelvetTallow
    @TheVelvetTallow6 ай бұрын

    You’re a natural educator ❤

  • @AuntBubblesSoapCo
    @AuntBubblesSoapCo8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to help educate new and old soap makers. Knowledge is power, time is money and this was awesome. Thank you and have a blessed day!

  • @Hippidippimahm
    @Hippidippimahm Жыл бұрын

    You are an absolute treasure! I am so grateful for your explanation. My brain would not understand this concept before!

  • @danidushan9150
    @danidushan9150 Жыл бұрын

    Just what I needed. Thanks ☺️

  • @daniamartelly8759
    @daniamartelly87595 ай бұрын

    You’re a life saver!

  • @firdowskruger9896
    @firdowskruger9896 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great tutorial.. You've answered all my questions. I have just now subscribed to your channel. Greetings from Pretoria, South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @CoventinaSoapery
    @CoventinaSoapery8 ай бұрын

    Good video, thanks for sharing with folks. I've been masterbatching my oils for a couple of years now, but I chose not to MB my lye, as I don't really want bottles of lye sol hanging around. I did try it, but it wasn't for me. It's no bother making it up as I go. I make my lye solution on the cooler side by using a mix of cooled water & ice. Sometimes I use the heat transfer method, so a hot mix is essential. Masterbatching oils on the other hand has been an absolute game changer for me.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    8 ай бұрын

    I think you have hit the nail on the head - master batching your pinch point is useful - whether that is oils or lye - the point is to make your life easier and your soaping quicker for your workflow. Thank you for the comment.

  • @CoventinaSoapery

    @CoventinaSoapery

    8 ай бұрын

    @@QueerBullSoap absolutely agree. No bother at all, love your vids x

  • @GR-hy3tf
    @GR-hy3tf Жыл бұрын

    Love your channel! VERY informative, You have a great voice for narration. Hugs from Greenwich

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @Pickles6115
    @Pickles6115 Жыл бұрын

    Master batching lye solution and oils is a timesaver and lifesaver for soapers. Keep up your great tips and tutorials.

  • @Pickles6115

    @Pickles6115

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey fellow soaper have you ever done a master batch lye solution with citric acid in it? I'm just wondering if that is even possible since you would have to adjust the NaOH due to the citric acid consuming some of the NaOH. I have made a soap recipe with citric acid, sugar and salt, but I've never made it in a master batch solution. Thanks for any input on the subject.

  • @Jessicaakathesoaplady
    @Jessicaakathesoaplady Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this was the most informative video I have seen for master batching. #newsub ❤

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @lastminutegirl
    @lastminutegirl9 ай бұрын

    This video is gold!!!

  • @eringosselin1240
    @eringosselin124010 ай бұрын

    This is one of the best explanations of Master batching lye that I have seen yet. You really explained the WHY's as well as the HOW's all the way to safely handling lye to be easily understood. So just so I understand this, If SOAPCALC said I need 50g of lye and 75g of liquid than the amount of extra liquid I need is 25g because I already have 50g already mixed with my lye. Is this correct? My mind can't get around multiplying and subtracting and when I try I loose all understanding.Thank you for sharing.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that - I’m glad it’s made master batching lye easier to understand.

  • @PatriciaSolismua
    @PatriciaSolismua2 ай бұрын

    very helpful video. I love making soap but hate the lye oil process LOL this will help speed it up. At what temp do you like soaping?

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    2 ай бұрын

    I like to soap close to 35 Celsius or below and aim to have my oils and lye within 5-10 degrees of each other

  • @jankates1274
    @jankates12749 ай бұрын

    Great informative video- thank you. I have been using this method for a few months now and have found that adding the extra liquid to the oils has accelerated trace. I put this down to the 1:1 interacting with that extra water and heating things up. As it would have if I had added the 1:1 to the extra liquid prior to adding to the oils. I have checked temps on this and where as the traditional method will result in a lye solution at 84C adding 1:1 to extra water will have it reach 44C give or take. If it does that in the oils that explains the accelerated trace. Your thoughts on this and particularly slowing trace when using this method would be greatly appreciated.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    6 ай бұрын

    I always add the additional liquids that are sugar free (distilled water) to the lye solution - if the liquids have sugar (milks, beer, wine, aloe juice) - i'll add to the oils and stick blend thoroughly to disperse it in the oils then add the lye solution as soon as possible so the additional liquids and oils dont fall out of suspension. If you do find there is acceleration - put your jug of oils into an ice batch as you adddf the lye solution to keep it cool as you bring to emulsion.

  • @jankates1274

    @jankates1274

    6 ай бұрын

    @@QueerBullSoap thank you so much. I really value your advice and look forward to trialling that.

  • @si29uk
    @si29uk Жыл бұрын

    Really useful. Thank you. One quick question... how vital is the use of distilled water? Would tap or bottled water ruin the process?

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    So tap water contains things like fluoride and metals that could cause DOS (dreaded orange spots) - bottled water can have similar minerals that can potentially cause the same issue, which is why distilled water is recommended. I have quite regularly used bags of ice from the supermarket (I’m in the Uk) as these are often made with filtered water and I haven’t found any problems with that. However lye made with tap water will still make soap.

  • @si29uk

    @si29uk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QueerBullSoap thanks. Do appreciate you taking the time.

  • @patriciagrullons
    @patriciagrullons10 ай бұрын

    You put the sodium lactate and the citric acid into the lye or into the oils? When you máster batch?

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    10 ай бұрын

    I add the sodium lactate in after I measure the master batch amount. I will dissolve the citric acid in the additional water I use - both are included in the water/lye solution

  • @BeechHillSoap
    @BeechHillSoap9 ай бұрын

    So when master batching lye when do you add the lid to your container? When it’s cooled?

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    9 ай бұрын

    Because I use a screw lid I add it once I’ve got a clear solution but I make sure to give it a half turn back open so it’s not fully sealed and the gasses can escape but if I knock it over I avoid spilling it everywhere

  • @denisekeys7540
    @denisekeys75409 ай бұрын

    Vinegar also neutralizes lye on the skin.

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    9 ай бұрын

    Be careful, the issue isn’t neutralising it’s time on the skin. You can burn the skin further with an acid - getting it off as quickly as you can will result in less redness. Opening a bottle of vinegar to neutralise an unpleasant already irritated burn, causing more skin irritation rather then rinsing under cool water immediately lessening the contact time seems counterintuitive to me.

  • @elizabethschramm5155
    @elizabethschramm5155 Жыл бұрын

    How long will the master batch lye solution last?

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    Жыл бұрын

    I have quite happily kept my master batch solution for a couple of months - as long as it’s kept sealed tight it should last months.

  • @waterlove689
    @waterlove6897 ай бұрын

    I don’t understand why times 2 ????

  • @QueerBullSoap

    @QueerBullSoap

    7 ай бұрын

    Sorry - times 2 what?