Massive White Oak on the Sawmill

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

My sister helped me saw up this giant white oak. The idea was to cut an 18" x 18" white oak post for my friend Nate from @BissellMapleFarm. It was more of a challenge than I expected.

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  • @heyyoubuddy6749
    @heyyoubuddy67493 ай бұрын

    Oh I love how you as his wifey loves his big wood more than he does. It’s fun to hear you both. That’s is a big oak log, I get huge cedar and pine logs but no hard woods. My mill will handle 36 inch logs, but unfortunately I don’t have a tractor or skid steer yet. Take care and God bless you folks. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, now, I do appreciate big wood (and that log was close to the limit), but I'm just his sister. George tends to use the double-meaning terms for woodcraft, so it would be difficult NOT to tease him. For (lignin-type) wood: It's actually kind of good not to get all the best tools at once. Gives you the chance to hone your skills. Best wishes for future upgrades, though!

  • @MsdMakingSawDust
    @MsdMakingSawDust5 ай бұрын

    That’s a big ole boy of a white oak. Good job milling it up. Thanks for sharing Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I've seen you cut some bigguns too! You have a great holiday.

  • @paulanicholson-reilly193

    @paulanicholson-reilly193

    4 ай бұрын

    1r​@@mcsawmill

  • @paulanicholson-reilly193

    @paulanicholson-reilly193

    4 ай бұрын

    Aaaaaasttt5tttttt

  • @BissellMapleFarm
    @BissellMapleFarm5 ай бұрын

    Thank you, George! That is awesome! Perfect!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I'll bring it out soon!

  • @karencary3312
    @karencary33125 ай бұрын

    That was a beautiful log Good cutting. Merry Christmas!!!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas Karen!

  • @andysmith8544
    @andysmith85445 ай бұрын

    That was a lot of turning for such a big log, but it sure made a difference in the end product. You have the little skid steer that could. Fun process to watch.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Yea a lot of turning considering I usually just make one turn when I'm slabbing. That was a huge log and I've got another white oak that is a little bigger.

  • @danielw.hanninen1176
    @danielw.hanninen11765 ай бұрын

    I have the same Sawmill as you have. However I have extra extensions for my Mill and can cut over 24' in length. These extra length logs are extremely heavy and they take extra care to put on the Mill. I use my bulldozer with a logclam to load the big ones and a Kubota GX135 tractor to load the smaller ones equipped with a logclam. Enjoy your videos. Good luck in 2024.!!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    You have a nice setup! Thanks for watching.

  • @deniscarter6613
    @deniscarter66135 ай бұрын

    Happy Christmas to you and all the Family George

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Same to you and yours!

  • @southernadirondackoutdoors
    @southernadirondackoutdoors5 ай бұрын

    Sounds like your sis was working hard at the end 🤣 I'll have to keep an eye on Nate's channel to see wtf he is going to do with an 18x18...I recall him talking about a building addition.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    lol she may have just been standing up after picking up a tiny piece of wood... Yea I want to see what Nate needed with these too!

  • @geoffreykail9129
    @geoffreykail91295 ай бұрын

    i also have a WM and I noticed one problem. It is the source of the wavy cut starting. You need to clean the bark with a brush, the dirt and sand (rocks) dull your blade. It also knocks out the set and that is where those lines come from parallel to the blade. Your blade life will be much longer if you're cutting into clean bark. It is a nice 18" cant. Also I keep the framing square at the mill and use it to verify the squareness before the cut by putting it against the underside of the blade and down the cut side of the log. Good luck and enjoy the milling.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh I'm aware. This log the second day was frozen, we tried to brush the dirt off but It wasn't moving so I said heck with it, I got more blades...

  • @geoffreykail9129

    @geoffreykail9129

    5 ай бұрын

    😁

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    I got him a nice, wide wire (grill) brush for Christmas...and painted "blade saver" on the handle. He used it in a later video.

  • @davekraft5051
    @davekraft50515 ай бұрын

    Beth seems to like white oak wood! That’s a beautiful 18” post! Nice job !

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    She just likes the whole sawing thing, we have a lot of fun.

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    5 ай бұрын

    I like interesting wood grain; not biased about white oak either way. Hi Dave, hope you're having a pleasant holiday!

  • @wayne251975

    @wayne251975

    5 ай бұрын

    It is likely the best of the hardwoods we have to cut here in N America. Rot resistance, strength, Beauty as well usefulness. It is hard to beat overall other than hard to cut...

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wayne251975 If only I could find a 36" dia black locust... that's probably my favorite wood. Honey Locust too, makes the most amazing slabs.

  • @TurkeyHollow
    @TurkeyHollow3 ай бұрын

    Love those videos!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Comments like that are why I do the videos.

  • @joeharwell54
    @joeharwell545 ай бұрын

    Great job.

  • @art1muz13
    @art1muz135 ай бұрын

    That was a lot of turning for such a big log, Fun process to watch.

  • @hpw59
    @hpw595 ай бұрын

    alright now, don't be looking down/hating on us😁 Woodland Mills sawmill owners..that turned out nice. good job

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh I don't look down on Woodland Mills, I love Nate's saw. But by mentioning the name now he has added pressure on him from all the Woodland Mills viewers lol...

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    5 ай бұрын

    He was muttering all the time about challenging Nate...he cut almost all of that out...

  • @bobwiese6128

    @bobwiese6128

    4 ай бұрын

    Excellent work.

  • @glenshauf9990

    @glenshauf9990

    4 ай бұрын

    Good work

  • @dagwood1327
    @dagwood13275 ай бұрын

    I just found your channel. Looks like you have some good content. New sub. I have an LT15 with bolt on wheels. I am finishing up a 30” red oak log that was about 6 ft long. It is all my tractor would pick up. I wish I had a skid steer.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Welcome. If you saw much oak, order the stainless bunk covers for your LT15. They are worth it so you don't get metal stains and to protect paint on the bunks.

  • @dagwood1327

    @dagwood1327

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mcsawmill I got some 3/16 stainless and covered mine a couple of years ago. Really makes a difference.

  • @jonnyem.8859
    @jonnyem.88595 ай бұрын

    Quite an impressive door-stop!

  • @andysmith8544
    @andysmith85445 ай бұрын

    I forgot to ask, did you have to get longer bolts to hang your sawdust bucket? I'm guessing just flipping them won't leave enough length to hold the bucket?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes longer bolts and added a second nut. If I can remember will show it in next video.

  • @rudygtrz
    @rudygtrz5 ай бұрын

    the 5-gallon bucket to collect sawdust is a great idea.

  • @dagwood1327

    @dagwood1327

    5 ай бұрын

    I use a bucket on my mill too. My son uses the oak sawdust to grow mushrooms. No bark. Clean dust.

  • @erikleorga
    @erikleorga5 ай бұрын

    In 2021 my dad helped me heave the butt end of a 10'6" long bur oak long onto my mill. It was January, just barely above freezing, and my mill was in my garage. We did it all with ramps, chains, and prybars. This was after I had my mill on a trailer frame. We did the same thing, heaved a log (ash) that maxed out my mill, prior to setting it on a trailer. GUT BUSTERS.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I really like sawing the big logs. I have a video called curly maple, way past max size for my mill

  • @robertszyszynski7959
    @robertszyszynski79594 ай бұрын

    GOOD JOB .

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder4 ай бұрын

    The official language of Indonesia is "Bahasa Indonesia", which literally means "Indonesian Language". It's very closely related to Malay. Lots of non-Indonesians incorrectly believe that the language is just called "Bahasa". I spoke it when i was a kid. My father was the American Consul in Surabaya for two years.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 ай бұрын

    Very cool thanks. I don't speak it but Google translate mostly works.

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for filling in my ignorance! George (MCSawmill) got a whole lot of subscribers from Indonesia all at once, and at the same time, got a lot more female subscribers. So we tease him a bit about the many Indonesian women watching his videos (yes, we know, the two aren't necessarily the same). I think I may pick a common Indonesian name or nickname (Siti? Nina?) and tease him about his relationship with her, like, "Oh, Siti will like that!"

  • @fricknjeep
    @fricknjeep5 ай бұрын

    hi there that was some good sawing , john

  • @terrywilkinson381
    @terrywilkinson3814 ай бұрын

    What Does The Water Do?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 ай бұрын

    Keeps the blade lubricated and cool.

  • @jenniferwhite6089
    @jenniferwhite60895 ай бұрын

    when i was growing up we had a live edge nut bowl filled up for Christmas like going to a family reunion lol nut was all over the place, and the top cut you made the heavy end would turn that into a nut bowl to

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Excellent idea!

  • @markthompson2079
    @markthompson20793 ай бұрын

    I love your wife's humor.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    That's my sister, I guess I should introduce people lol... I'm bad that way.

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I was hassling him a lot, but we have (sibling-type) fun!

  • @RattiDave
    @RattiDave5 ай бұрын

    Any chance you would consider selling the knot from that first, "_*scrap*_" offcut?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    It's yours if you come pick it up, my email address is in the channel info tab

  • @terrywilkinson381
    @terrywilkinson3814 ай бұрын

    Dad Gum It Bobby You Let It Run Out Of Gas 😂😂😂😂

  • @bobwiese6128
    @bobwiese61284 ай бұрын

    I was wondering if you ever use a metal dectector prior to cutting. 😊

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 ай бұрын

    I do sometimes use a cheap detector but I usually forget about it unless I suspect there is metal.

  • @projectsadventuresfarmlife
    @projectsadventuresfarmlife3 ай бұрын

    Curious of what blades are you using on the big white oak

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    woodmizer 737 blades 7deg .045 thick. I'll be trying their carbide blades in an upcoming video, I believe they will work much better for the really big logs because they have no set. We'll see...

  • @msanford75
    @msanford755 ай бұрын

    Sounds like someone has a crush on Nate

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Syrup and sawmills, what's not to like? Lol.

  • @pezofdoom7090
    @pezofdoom70905 ай бұрын

    what were you checking in the sawdust bucket at 8:35 ?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    coarseness of sawdust to determine if I was cutting too slow.

  • @gottabighit1
    @gottabighit15 ай бұрын

    "This is George admiring his big wood' ... We all do ma'am, we all do ...

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    LOL!!!

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    5 ай бұрын

    RotFL! Well, yeah, but watching my BROTHER do that...

  • @tomfrench8191
    @tomfrench81914 ай бұрын

    Thing is like iron. Imagine the weight bearing that could take

  • @kenamsdell6741
    @kenamsdell67412 ай бұрын

    Wow, that bugger was heavy!

  • @yenerm114
    @yenerm1145 ай бұрын

    Could try making a lil ramp up to the mill, would prly help a lil with the tippy tip of the skid steer, if ya plan on doing big logs like that in the future 👌🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I actually have steel ramps for the mill, just haven't tried them yet.

  • @yenerm114

    @yenerm114

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mcsawmill rite on👍🏻 deff help being able to just drive up a lil dirt/stone ramp to get the height to get the log on wout having to raise the boom

  • @projectsadventuresfarmlife
    @projectsadventuresfarmlife3 ай бұрын

    Pretty Oak log, I love getting to cut those big boys too! Have you thought about an I-beem with electric hoist over your mill to load and turn those monster logs. I have loaded and turned 8,000lb+ logs on my mill with my modifidy log trailer from an old propane tank trailer with a 12k winch on it. Thanks for your videos and your time!🤩

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I have thought about it but the skidster works and is portable like the mill.

  • @lambeausouth1
    @lambeausouth12 ай бұрын

    Man that is one hell of a log 😀

  • @TheFoxpig
    @TheFoxpig4 ай бұрын

    I can't afford my own sawmill but I can afford a dust broom. So many videos with so few brooms. That is one sweet log though....

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    we actually did use a broom on it the first day but the second day everything had frozen in place. So I just sawed it.

  • @integr8er66
    @integr8er664 ай бұрын

    Its gonna shrink a lot more than 1/8"

  • @TheMakersMarkTSF
    @TheMakersMarkTSF5 ай бұрын

    It's not the brand of the sawmill, it is the quality of the sawyer! I have seen plenty of non square cants come off of a Woodmizer. Even seen a few on your videos.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree 100%, But it's an 18x18 and his sawmill maxes at a 30" log. That makes it more difficult for him.

  • @BissellMapleFarm

    @BissellMapleFarm

    5 ай бұрын

    I cheat. I have an Austin. I run the camera and edit videos!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BissellMapleFarm I want to come out and help you guys when you find a good log!

  • @sergeystrizheus3368
    @sergeystrizheus33685 ай бұрын

    I have woodmill and I never got any straight and square like you did. I consider woodmill is for very lite use and small logs. Better than no saw but not close to lt 15

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    There are a lot of things that can get out of adjustment on a mill. I recently did a full alignment. That helped.

  • @johnmoyer5515
    @johnmoyer55155 ай бұрын

    I've done some 30" x 10' with manual labor winches etc

  • @bogus_not_me
    @bogus_not_me4 ай бұрын

    Nice job cutting so accurately. Huge heavy log to handle but you made it come out great. Now tell me WHY does anyone need 18" x 18" x 97" ??? Way to heavy for such a short length, IMHO

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 ай бұрын

    It's for a post to hold up some sort of steel structure. I'll video it when they build it.

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott30653 ай бұрын

    What kind blades are you using

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    woodmizer 737, they are 7deg blades .045 thick

  • @doeljatengchannel
    @doeljatengchannel4 ай бұрын

    Wow

  • @petepeterson4540
    @petepeterson45404 ай бұрын

    georges big wood! for Indonesians.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 ай бұрын

    My kids got a real kick out of that. Nobody can figure it out.

  • @robertgreen8695
    @robertgreen86953 күн бұрын

    Them would make some nice massive tables or bar tops.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 күн бұрын

    That they would. About 10 months ago I cut a. Huge 33" dia cherry, those would make a heck of a table! There's a video here of that log.

  • @eduardfrazao3506
    @eduardfrazao35065 ай бұрын

    Wen you turn you have to put the belt on right place

  • @MW-vj1cw
    @MW-vj1cw3 ай бұрын

    Oh my Gosh..Look at the size of that one!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I always go for the big logs.

  • @brucewelty7684
    @brucewelty76845 ай бұрын

    toymaking plans for the 1/4 and 1/2 stuff!

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I wish I had that skill...

  • @brucewelty7684

    @brucewelty7684

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mcsawmill that is actually the website that sells plans. If you have a scroll saw, the plans looks easy..well SOME of them do. hahahha

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott30653 ай бұрын

    She is funny 😂

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    Why, thank you!

  • @alexciocca4451
    @alexciocca44513 ай бұрын

    Boy I hope the trees never wake up and turn against humans then it could be me or you on the saw mill conveyor

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I almost never cut trees down on my property unless they fall. What I do is take trees that others have cut down and were going to sent to a landfill or turn into firewood and turn them into something useful. I hate wasting trees, there is such beauty in the wood. Watch my bridge out video, at the end there is a little bit about my trees and how I feel about them.

  • @EricAdamsYT
    @EricAdamsYT2 ай бұрын

    BIG WOOD

  • @rdronet5254
    @rdronet52543 ай бұрын

    Where are you located? Do you sell lumber? Do you plane lumber? Do you dry lumber? How do I contact you?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    Northeast Ohio, yes I sell mostly slabs, I air dry hope to build a kiln this year. Email me georger@nthelp.com and thanks for watching my video.

  • @jamesgates3293
    @jamesgates32933 ай бұрын

    That bark doesn't look like White Oak. Maybe Chestnut Oak.

  • @CRS73s
    @CRS73s2 ай бұрын

    Someone can use a T70. The much extra expense, is worth the extra work. Not no mention your safety.

  • @Bigone818
    @Bigone8183 ай бұрын

    Nice video. but really you need a debarker to take the bark off i use to run one back in the day

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't think there is a debarker option for the LT15. I could get one that goes on the chainsaw but I want the live edge to remain untouched.

  • @Bigone818

    @Bigone818

    3 ай бұрын

    @mcsawmill okay I just thought about it thats all.have a great day.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Bigone818 you are absolutely right though so thanks for the comment.

  • @tandemcompound2
    @tandemcompound23 ай бұрын

    thought the saw and motor would complain more with that hard wood.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I listen to the motor and adjust cutting speed accordingly.

  • @d.thorpe2046
    @d.thorpe20463 ай бұрын

    if its 18x18 and 8 feet long it weighs 900lbs. edit: consider getting a small air compressor for blowing things off

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    Cordless leaf blower

  • @ostengrotell2405
    @ostengrotell24054 ай бұрын

    👍🇫🇮🇸🇪🇺🇦🙂❤

  • @lambeausouth1
    @lambeausouth12 ай бұрын

    LOL I think you need a bigger tractor! 😀

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    2 ай бұрын

    oh so true! I wish I had something that could lift 9000 lbs!

  • @88cruzer1
    @88cruzer12 ай бұрын

    Need to wear your PPE if you want to keep your sight, hearing and lungs.

  • @terrymarshall5480
    @terrymarshall54805 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @user-dk2wv4eh8u
    @user-dk2wv4eh8u3 ай бұрын

    WHY NOT SET YOUR FORKS CLOSER TO LOG TO SLIDE BOARDS OFF EASIER?

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    Clearance for saw head. They could have been a little closer but not close enough.

  • @woodwoman9130
    @woodwoman91305 ай бұрын

    Nice, I could make some nice bowls out of that but it needs to be cut thicker🤣

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    I have a chunk of white oak you would love...

  • @woodwoman9130

    @woodwoman9130

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mcsawmill really ? Is it a burl or spalted.? Where are y’all located I’m in Georgia close to hot lanta.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    @@woodwoman9130 it's a 10" thick 34" dia cookie. Northern Ohio.

  • @ddolde
    @ddolde4 күн бұрын

    You sure could use hydraulics

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    4 күн бұрын

    I do have hydraulics, on the skidster lol. But I agree with you.

  • @merdanguldal341
    @merdanguldal3414 ай бұрын

    🇹🇷.iyi hello kolay gelsin.🙂🇹🇷

  • @user-ww8hd5du9t
    @user-ww8hd5du9t3 ай бұрын

    Pretty expensive wood to be sawing without a Laser.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    lol... I don't do expensive wood.

  • @johntillotson4254
    @johntillotson42543 ай бұрын

    Your wife is funny

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    that's my sister, I would never marry a woman from this family...

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! It was a fun day.

  • @Owsley1966
    @Owsley19664 ай бұрын

    No hearing, eye, or dust protection.

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    I had earplugs in a lot of the time. I have a sheet face mask that I usually use when I have to get close to use the camera (otherwise I get dust in my eyes, very unpleasant and risky). But, yeah, it's a tradeoff. Kids, don't do this at home!

  • @diydiscover
    @diydiscover3 ай бұрын

    the word is Grabity. Not gravity.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I like it!

  • @diydiscover

    @diydiscover

    3 ай бұрын

    my wife uses it. Makes me laugh every time. Love the video by the way.@@mcsawmill

  • @petepeterson4540
    @petepeterson45404 ай бұрын

    🦫🦫🦫

  • @joshuadickmann7734
    @joshuadickmann77343 ай бұрын

    Please stop crawling out from under the skid steer arms. You have no idea how dangerous it is.

  • @customhost-7276
    @customhost-72762 ай бұрын

    That is not a white oak

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    2 ай бұрын

    ok what is it then?

  • @customhost-7276

    @customhost-7276

    2 ай бұрын

    Chestnut oak

  • @craigbruske6866
    @craigbruske68665 ай бұрын

    I got tired watching you. I’m sure glad I bought a mill with hydraulics years ago when they were reasonably priced.

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    5 ай бұрын

    Well I got a mill to keep me active not to produce lumber. Think of it as my version of going to the gym lol...

  • @ImprovCrafting

    @ImprovCrafting

    3 ай бұрын

    Plus, you don't have to wear gym CLOTHES! Nothing that shows your barely-there back end. Although, there are those other sawmill videos you watch, with the women in snug clothes...maybe you should try it anyway. (They get a LOT of views.)🤭

  • @sticklebacksummer
    @sticklebacksummer3 ай бұрын

    Another beautiful tree destroyed for greed

  • @mcsawmill

    @mcsawmill

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't cut trees down, I get my logs from tree services and homeowners. I also don't do this for money so you could not be more wrong

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