Massive Industrial Bearing Spun With 60,000 PSI Waterjet
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How fast can you sping a giant bearing with a 60,000 PSI Waterjet? That's what we find out on this episode of questions you never asked.
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You should update the software on your Chronos camera! The version you're running is about 3 years old and we have made a ton of improvements since then. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Some more light will make a world of difference as well. Love what you guys are doing. Please spin more things!
@Oglokoog
Жыл бұрын
OH SHIT ITS THE REAL Chronos Cameras
@Thegoofyairgunner
Жыл бұрын
Chronos cameras Y’all are on my Christmas wish list 🤣 what do you suggest for a “new tuber “?
@thebillyd00
Жыл бұрын
The shots really are dim. Not enough time to get a decent exposure inside with such a high frame rate, I guess.
@emtiv5308
Жыл бұрын
I hope they see this!!
@ChronosCameras
Жыл бұрын
@@Thegoofyairgunner Depends what you are shooting! What do you plan to film?
Turn into an adult and these are my saturday morning cartoons.
@twosquids
Жыл бұрын
Today is Saturday?!?!? Oh God oh no
@formulized94
Жыл бұрын
@@twosquids I was just guessing. At my age, you never can keep up.
@DRONEast
Жыл бұрын
I'm in NZ. These vids drop at 2am Sunday. Get home from the pub and this is what I'm doing haha
@G40bv
Жыл бұрын
Thank god we are adults...
@dj9choco
Жыл бұрын
Sunday for me... Hahahaha
Those rods are definitely above average. Arguably could even be considered large.
@TheDJOblivion
Жыл бұрын
Crazy, that's exactly what they said.
@JL-wf2wp
Жыл бұрын
My harley has larger needle bearings on the crankshaft than those in the video
@EARFQ
Жыл бұрын
The bearing looked like it had a great personality too
@yourbifriendaspen3629
Жыл бұрын
I bet they're really nice, too.
@altonb93
Жыл бұрын
That bearing has been told “Yours is fine the big ones hurt” 😫😭
The big bearing was supposed to be packed with grease and it was missing a seal. It's meant for low speeds as well
@SCWW
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much any bearing that has the bearings exposed should be packed with grease. The fact that the bearing that didn’t spin freely, didn’t spin, is a good indicator that it can be used at high speed because as the grease heats up it will spin more freely.
@jesp7657
Жыл бұрын
@@SCWW or it was a bearing from a gearbox that uses oil instead of grease
@merendell
Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily on the speed thing. 1800 rpm is not an uncommon industrial motor speed. I've seen a few motors in the shop that took bearings that large that run at that speed although they tend to start runing slower around that size. You could potentially have a 5.5inch output shaft on a motor using one that size. Your right about the seal though. It does not take much contamination to jam a bearing. They also dont like runing loaded or at high speed with no lube. @Jesper Jensen, commonly in motors the bearings are either fully sealed with a measured amount of grease inside from the factory or they are open and theres a cap behind to bearing to hold grease in. This allows more grease to be added over time as the old wears out. Open bearings in a greaseable motor generally last longer before needing to be replaced if the millwrights actually follow the manufacturers recommended greasing schedule. Sealed bearings are effectively a wear item. Clocks ticking once they are put into service and you can make a reasonable guess as to how many hours they will last depending on the service speed and HP of the motor.
@fang4853
Жыл бұрын
If he showed the part number we could see the speed it is rated for. The shaft sizes where also incorrect it should have been so tight where you cant pull it off with your hand, only a gear puller or a deadblow hammer. Rookie mistake.
@BlackroseTanki
Жыл бұрын
@@fang4853 These bearings do not really have a speed limit. It sure has a limit but these limits are as good as unreachable. Bearings can do tens of thousands of rpms
Bring back Dan and Mitchell !!!
@MVBT05
11 ай бұрын
no
@michaelguckian5373
10 ай бұрын
What happened the lads. Miss them also
You guys are just getting started, size wise. Dad worked at a steel mill and once when they had to replace the bearings in a mill he brought home the box one came in. It was big enough to make a nice treehouse for us kids.
@Z-Ack
Жыл бұрын
Yea when you get above automotive wheel bearing sizes the price per bearing goes waaay up there.. saw a bearing that was about 18” od with a price tag of $13k.. das a spensive spinny bit..
@TheExplosiveGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@Z-Ack I've got a 20" roller bearing lying around I got from work, it's a little worn out, it was pulled out and replaced after a gigantic gearbox rebuild, but the thing weighs like 90 pounds, I can't imagine how much that thing cost new. It's a whole different game price-wise when you get into the big stuff. I wanted it as a display item in my man cave, (for whenever I get a man cave lol), my boss told me to get rid of it so I did😂. It's also got like 25 pounds of brass in it, it's going to look nice once I clean and polish it all up.
Starting the bearing spinning with your hand was friggin terrifying
@grimfpv292
Жыл бұрын
Right???!!!
@21parks
Жыл бұрын
I run a waterjet and can vouch for that, that’s risky as hell
@TheAbsol7448
Жыл бұрын
Especially after seeing what it did to the gel hand. Jesus.
@oisiaa
Жыл бұрын
Yeah...easily could have lost his fingers right there. WTF was he thinking? Is he a professional operator or just a KZread dude with access to this machine?
@XREXP0
Жыл бұрын
@@oisiaa yes
I would also like to add that I think those needle bearings are PLENTY large
Maybe you should have packed the big bearing with some waterproof grease, might have kept the abrasive out for longer.
Do a tank cleaning video! has this not been cleaned since you got it!?
@mckbalisong
Жыл бұрын
They have a system now that does it automatically, basically pumps it out into a devise that collects the garnet, and recycles the water back into the tank
Rods = needle bearing. Typically used in a location were a shaft isn't supposed to have much movement side to side and the bearing serves to center the shaft in a tube. Like axle shaft bearings.
@Bubu567
Жыл бұрын
Needle bearing? I think you meant average bearing. Thick bearing even...
@shaunofthedead3000
Жыл бұрын
@@Bubu567 Needle bearings are a type of bearing. Not size. Look up R59047
@Bubu567
Жыл бұрын
@@shaunofthedead3000 I would gift you a sense of humor if you could buy it on amazon.
@shaunofthedead3000
Жыл бұрын
@@Bubu567 Too expensive. 😋
Would it be possible to pre-grind some ridges or texture on the the berrings to give the water something to push against so it doesn't get stuck on the abrasives?
@TheGoodChap
Жыл бұрын
It would be like a tiny water wheel, that would definitely help torque hugely
Who the hell are these guys??? Where are the OGs i remember??
Always look forward to Saturday mornings to see these vids
How do these guys not have 10 mil subs yet? They make consistent content and have been at it for ever! I would think this would draw a very broad audience
@Scarlet_Soul
Жыл бұрын
Because they aren't the original people who ran the channel, they've suffered a huge viewer loss because of this
@Thegoofyairgunner
Жыл бұрын
@@Scarlet_Soul it didn’t even register on me. I haven’t seen it for a while. Now it makes sense. Thank you
@thejwilliams333
Жыл бұрын
@@Scarlet_Soul what happen too the original people?
@itxi
Жыл бұрын
@@thejwilliams333 They have a new channel where they work on cars
@thejwilliams333
Жыл бұрын
@@itxi what's the name of that channel?
you should get the slo mo guys in with a 4k phantom camera
I don't know why things spinning super fast is so intriguing
Where did Dan and Mitchell go?
"Stop using abrasive!!" Bro, if they were using abrasive there wouldn't even BE a wheel.
Sticking your hand under that nozzle with someone ready to turn it on was the stupidest thing you can do.
Would have helped the needle bearings if you used the correct shaft size.
Niiice, glad to see the revisit with bearings! Good stuff guys!
Ok maybe I have missed something from not watching in a while. What happened to the original 2 guys on this channel?
@ginnpiss
Жыл бұрын
They quit and made a new channel about cars
@randomisus8711
Жыл бұрын
@@ginnpiss what’s the name of their new channel?
@ginnpiss
Жыл бұрын
@@randomisus8711 Cars & Stuff
Man I was here to this channel when you were 10k subs, road to a million here we goooo
I use to be the go-to repair guy for a piece of equipment rated to 18,000 rpm (We never went over 10,000). It had four of those large cage bearings like you have. There was active oil misting of the bearings. If the mister was running too much oil (more than a single drop per minute turned to mist and split 4 ways) the machine would start bogging down. The areas of the machine where the bearings were would get hot. Very hot. During normal operation those areas would become warm to the touch but not hot. When the oil ran heavy the machine would get hot enough to smell, and smoke would rise as it burned off any oil on the clamshell housing. I replaced the older oiler with a new one, and mounted it in a location that was not influenced by the machines vibration. Never had that problem again. Over 15 years. Set it and forget it beyond refilling the reservoir every month. And the point is? Cage bearings are made to run clean except for a microscopic film of light oil. At least when they're being run fast. Under perfect conditions those large bearings you had would easily run 10k or more.
What happened to the original host these new guys are trying to hard and messing things up
still no lick test 😡😡😡😡 bring the OG guys back
@KevinK88
Жыл бұрын
What happend to them two?
@congoballs9725
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinK88 idk that what I was wondering they were funnier
It's time to clean out the water jet
3inch is a sealed bearing so it’s packed with grease that’s why it goes slower
you guys should make shorts, this type of content is perfect to recut into shorts alongside the main vids :)
the sound of the wheel being spun by the air compressor at 1:44 really reminded me of a 2JZ or an RB28 lol
The big bearing spins easy due to no grease. The sealed ones are packed. As the grease works out as the seals break down is why they free spin over time.
That indeed did answer that.
While working in a Salmon Cannery in SE Alaska, I took one of the larger used machinery bearings (apprx 2in Wide x 8in Dia), cleaned it up and added a few drops of 30W oil and then hit the side of the ball bearings w/ some Shop Air while holding the internal Race w/ my hand. I'm guessing it hit around 10K RPM before I dropped it to the Warehouse Concrete floor. It sat there and just made sparks for a second or two and then accelerated the entire 80 yrds length of the Warehouse and went thru the metal siding on the other end of the building. There was a Semi Trailer parked in the loading pit next to wall that took a hit. Bearings are of such tight tolerances that any grit or dirt is gonna add a lot of rotational resistance if it doesn't stop rotation entirely. Ur little water jet experience w/ all the cutting slurry splashing up into the bearings was bound to be a bust. I think the plastic and lower tolerance bearings worked because of their "sloppy" build tolerances.
I bet those rods have a good personality
Finally, a worthy competitor for ball size
You two have good chemistry!
Idk if anyone has commented this yet but any bearing that seems slow but is still smooth is because it has been greased as a bearing should be. Those sealed ones definitely have a grease inside which slows down the bearing with no load but is essential for loaded applications
Giant bearing size of human face We have to set up the safety shield or someone is gonna get hurt * *safety shield is unsecured half of a garbage pail* *
Loved the get smart clip
I bet those rods have a wonderful personality to boot
Are you using garnet or just water? Watched to the end, got my answer.
I don't know who these people are, but having seen this channel years ago, I can safely assume the entire original gang fell into the waterjet and were neatly bisected.
the biggest bearings you've shown are actually quite small compared to the size they could be. The stone crusher at my work already has bearings the size of a basketball
Top tip, with ball races point your water/air jet at about 20 degrees to the ball cage not the external diameter, that size bearing your using should reach around 40k to 50k RPM (air is better and may even achieve higher revs before disintergrating) you will have to make improvements to your containment system!
Lol so funny! I would love to see you clean the tank and see what is in the water, must be so much random stuff from your videos
That water probably smells terrible.
yay you got your waterje back!
If you want I work at a plant and some of our bearings are 8-10in inner diameter. If we replace one I could send it out to test? But yea they need lots of grease for those large ones with some kind of shield to keep the grease in. Normally they're pressed into a housing that has a cap you put on after for greasing purposes.
Do a spinny wheel with the really efficient water cup things to catch more water
Do you think greasing the open bearings would make them hold up better by keeping the garnet out?
@suzz1776
Жыл бұрын
Maybe cuz they r supost to be greased, not run dry but the garnet might just gunk it up even more if greased and cause problems.
I know this question is not on topic with the video, but can used garnet be dried and used with a hose siphon sand blaster gun? (The kind that is used in some cabinet sand blasters.)
Idk how long before the jet should be repositioned to only act on the farthest edge as it expands with speed; but I think all of your wheels could spin faster if the jet was moving away from the axle as the plastic expands, so it doesn't cut through the core material while the speed is still increasing.
I wonder if soaking/coating the bearings in a combination of lube and neverwet on the giant industrial bearing would prevent the stoppage?
What if y’all cut some thin grooves in the metal barring (horizontally for traction)?
What is NPS (or MPS?) and where can I go visit one?
It’s been a while since we’ve gotten a tank clean out video, actually maybe on the OG water jet. It would be cool to get another since your tank is getting pretty full of garnet. And maybe get a fresh big bearing to spin with fresh water in the tank
Fun always starts with "We've got the shield set up."
Ive spun up many bearings with compressed air. The most dangerous ones are tapered roller bearings (any roller bearing i guess lol) Also spun up a squirrel cage blower fan with an industrial steamer/pressure washer.. it did blow up.
@randyschneider6086
Жыл бұрын
When I worked as a mechanic I repacked many tapered roller bearings for front auto wheels,would get that bearing screaming good with compressed air till boss said he did that once and the cage failed and the rollers turned into shrapnel.
at the company our union is contracted to work for, we use waterjets to cut gating off of aluminum alloy jet engine parts for military and commercial planes :) the only reason i made the connection to this video was because there are garnet tanks stored in an area that was once a work station for manually belting parts
We used to spin those big bearings up with air on a wooden hammer handle, once they got up to speed we would let them go, straight at a concrete block wall. Some would end up exploding against the wall. Got in a lot of trouble when one actually went through the wall, that was the last time we did it.
I've seen a lot of bearings, but none that terrified me at all
would you guys consider spinning a cable pully that has dual bearings if i make a shaft for it to ride on....? its about 12-16 inches in diameter.....
Back in my younger days, being a mechanic at an exxon gas station, I was repacking the front wheel bearings on a vehicle, in the process i soaked them in some chemtool to clean them, and before packing them with grease, me and my genius mentality figured I would use compressed air to spin them dry and clean of the cleaner....as i started, it made what I thought was a neat sound, a high pitch whine, trying to maximize it I kept the air on for a min.....before i could do much of anything, that damn thing blew up....neay removed my middle finger from my hand and virtually split my thumb in half, and i ended up missing 3 fingernails that moments before had been on my fingers....that had to have been probably THE stupidest thing I have done.....I thank God one of those bearing didnt go in and out of my skull, but waz quite similar to a small frag gernade going off in my hand....all grew back together and only ended up with one odd shaped fingers....but still, it was a neat sound, up untill the moment of decetegration....DO NOT TRY THIS TRICK AS THE REWARD IS NOT WORTH IT
In an engineering class, we had a massive 1 1/2’ breaking that we used as a weight. Must have been for something very industrial
One tip for high speed cameras. Use LOTS of light. Like, alot more light than you think you would actually need.
i was thinking, you could make small notches in the outer profile of the bearing for the water to grab onto and possibly get a higher rpm
you need more light for the slow mo
Maybe you should clean out the old abrasive
You could put abrasive paper on the outside of the metal ones to give more drag to the water
It’s obvious from the start that these guys know bupkis about bearings but even then should know bearings work better with grease in them. Their “huge” bearing is actually small. So much to learn. Somewhat entertaining though.
Have you guys tried just using the water pressure or are you using garnett as well?
"Usually you don't want things weighing 1000's of pounds spinning at 1000's of RPM" lol
What if you try the bearing thing again but machine some knurling on it or something?
I wish I could send some of the bearings we use, they're 1850mm outside to outside, and sometimes larger if the press were taking apart is considerably more large.
Can you do it pls next time with an FLIR cam?
Great fun, when I was a kid I did this with compressed air. BTW in the 1 bearing it's not rods, it's called needle rollers. lol
That conical bearing is the exact same bearing used in ch-47’s. How did you guys find yhat
Y'all should hook up with the slo mo guys!!
What about welding some little plate on the Big bearing to make a sort of waterwheel ?
This demonstration is awesome it reminds when I once fired a 357 magnum at an empty shotgun shell on an iced over pond. I must have glance it just right. It spun for at least a minute and a half then it shot up in the air 30 or 40 feet and came down and spun for another minute or so.
Glad to see you guys getting back to the old, tried and true video style! Definitely a change in the content not having Danielle and Michelle, those guys were really enjoyable. This video with you new ladies is better than the older ones where you went off into the weeds trying to do content similar to every other KZread channel. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy this channel.
@songogu9
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched in a while, what happened to the old guys?
@josephina6969
Жыл бұрын
@@songogu9 they made their own channel
@caodesignworks2407
Жыл бұрын
@@josephina6969 This is their original channel, they just decided they wanted restart their second channel that had been laying dormant for years.
@josephina6969
Жыл бұрын
@@caodesignworks2407 yah Ik
@LickinMahBallss
Жыл бұрын
@@songogu9 No-one knows... they make random appearances in videos but it's mostly these dudes.
You should take out the garnet and do this
Former Boeing Everett... we use ultra high pressure water jets to spin our giant turbofan jet engines to start them.... nah.. just pulling your leg.
1:20 Yea, scrolling on a Chronos is like that sometimes.
I would say that not only is the bearing not rated for 40k rpm with grit in it, it is also not rated for use on a shaft with a diamater smaller than the inside diameter of the bearing.
I am quite happy channels like this exist so I can not have the need to do this level of absurdity myself. I can just watch your video instead.
Y’all need to do another tank cleaning video
In the 50s they sold lead gyroscopes at toy stores. You'd crack open the cage so you could drop the wheel and axle out onto the floor after getting it up to speed with 125psi air. A wonder I'm not dead. Once popped out onto the floor there was no traction so to speak and it would just sit there hopping up and down and moving slowly forward. After awhile some traction would develop and it would eventually shoot out of the garage going like hell...
I wonder if the wheel would last longer if the water jet was moving away from the wheel as it expanded
... Is this OSHA certified? That thin film of steel held down with wood screws isn't going to do a thing to the bearing if it comes apart at 2700rpm.
need to cut some little grooves in the bearing so the water has something to grab onto
What happened to the original guys? These the replacement guys now? Or just temporary?
Perhaps a laugh would be to get the large bearings spinning with air and release them in a big clear area. That big bearing would easily carry enough momentum to go over 100 meters with a cool spray of sparks behind it. Due to the gyroscopic effect the go in a nice straight line as well but when they get the wobbles it looks cool as they explode.
The bearing with the rubber seal is packed with grease, if you removed the seal and cleaned it out it would spin as freely as any other bearing.
To solve your unwanted "abrasive" problem, just put a container under the nozzle and fill with clean water. Then, if you don't add any abrasive, none should splash back into the system. If the water gets contaminated, changing out the container isnmuch easier then cleaning the whole table I presume
So, it's been a while since I've watched any of your videos, probably 2 years or so. I have no idea who you guys are anymore.
First video in a while. Who are these guys. We’re did the old duo go
You definitely need The SlowMo Guys.
A free-spinning bearing is a broken bearing. You do NOT want that.