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@carlasejas5280

3 жыл бұрын

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@volrogue

3 жыл бұрын

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@genradiata1723

3 жыл бұрын

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@xero-cage6853

3 жыл бұрын

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@noelozano5592

3 жыл бұрын

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“Hey we heard you’re still somehow having fun playing our game so we fixed that. You’re welcome.”

@VioletDeathRei

3 жыл бұрын

Thank God, I was worried I might enjoy it for a second there.

@briesoldnose4161

3 жыл бұрын

Could you add more pay walls for the true ending of the game, and game ending content that would be great, also loot boxes for everyone

@detroid_ntr4all675

3 жыл бұрын

Overexaggerating clowns.

@BullsMahunny

3 жыл бұрын

Found the fanboy.

@ry1023.3

3 жыл бұрын

I almost wanted to get this game so thank you for turning me away with this great update

Devs are doing great in this “How to lose the little fans you have left” speedrun

@Superbattheman1

3 жыл бұрын

They might even beat anthem for the world record 😂

@bloatedbehemoth1979

3 жыл бұрын

There definitely going head to head on this

@Kenny-Blankenship

3 жыл бұрын

I gave them a pity upvote on reddit, hopefully YongYea will report on it later :^^)

@Mach-2-Fishbed

3 жыл бұрын

At this point, I'm sure the game has to hit a specific low before they can axe the game and the devs just want to push out the last few so they can just let it die.

@codygreene8783

3 жыл бұрын

@@Superbattheman1 but this game doesn’t have anything to like, unlike Anthem did. Best dollar I ever spent.

When Strange said that he looked at 14mil possibilities, this is one of them that won't work out. Lol

@ReigoVassal

3 жыл бұрын

This is actually one of them that's too horrifying even he doesn't want to talk about it.

@NeutralGuyDoubleZero

3 жыл бұрын

@@ReigoVassal (you can tell because he isnt in it lol)

@Rekhan4242

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero Dang, you went there! That's cold, well played.

Next update: "We hear you. We're removing the hulk. We're also resetting everyone to level one."

@manuxx3543

3 жыл бұрын

Would be fun to see a liveservice act totally eratic like that, because it's totally legal to it and fuck with players

@theodavis4832

3 жыл бұрын

Hulk suck

@brakhai5605

3 жыл бұрын

Backlash happens and devs are like: Hulk was too popular in our opinion, so we removed him so our players can enjoy other heroes more. The level one reset was just so everyone can process the removal of Hulk and get used to the game without him.

Lol, when there’s actually more Avengers than actual players.

@ologhai8559

3 жыл бұрын

👆😂😂😂

@oliverharvey637

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@deeal5336

3 жыл бұрын

Ayye yo lmfaooo, take my upvote you filthy goblin.

@Murtaugh395

3 жыл бұрын

Take the 've' out of Avengers and you get the end result. "Angers"

@Mehrunes86

3 жыл бұрын

@@Murtaugh395 👍😂

This will piss off all 6 people that play Marvel's Avengers.

@maxilin3729

3 жыл бұрын

5! I'm done with this shit now

@5552515

3 жыл бұрын

The only reason why they are still playing it is because they don't want to waste their Virgin Media, Five Gum, and Verizon, skins.

@chaserseven2886

3 жыл бұрын

Last video was 3 now its 6? Please decide on a number!

@captaintoyota3171

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaserseven2886 wtf?

@JustDavenThings

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxilin3729 4. I deleted it after the announcement.

"The stockholders were confused and overwhelmed at how easy it was to level and the effect of that on their ability to turn the game into freemium pay to win in the future."

@blakedarryl

3 жыл бұрын

Stockholders and CEO, "Why people no like the superpeople game?! You told us that Sergeant USA and Alumina Boy were popular?! Well when we want more momeny in market we drive up demand by making things harder to get...do that with this game. Make something harder to get and make the Black Countess have little to no clothes. Game people love that". ;)

@majiira

3 жыл бұрын

I think you're right on the nose with this. pretty sure it's the first step for microtransactions later on

Just you wait, they'll start selling xp boosters to "fix" the issue they created.

@mikoto7693

3 жыл бұрын

That would be really shady. Here I was guessing they were trying to pad out their threadbare game with more grind because players were maxing out and dropping the game too fast.

@Chromwel-A

3 жыл бұрын

🆙 this is a legit prediction.

@BRUXXUS

3 жыл бұрын

Well....yeah.

@APunishedManNamed2

3 жыл бұрын

"Develop a problem, sell the solution" Tried & true tactic for AAA releases.

@victorzvyagin360

3 жыл бұрын

Erm. False advertisement is actually a legal offence, iirc? They did say, if you remember-that there's gonna be no p2w mechanics? Well I definitely Do remember that. ^_^

"How do we make the game better, have more grinding." Facepalm

@damonlam9145

3 жыл бұрын

yeah really like how many failures does it take to make these companies listen.

@jasonf7072

3 жыл бұрын

I just don’t understand why they think doing the opposite of what the community says is wise... followed by doubling down on it after backlash 🤦‍♂️ Then they wonder why their player base has plummeted

@ilewdlolis939

3 жыл бұрын

Not that grinding bad but this ain't a bloody RPG

@Herobrine20001

3 жыл бұрын

Totally unreleated but Thats a great profile pic

@omaririzarry2901

3 жыл бұрын

They can save this by just adding time savers

"I can't hold all of these skill points, I'm overwhelmed!" - Nobody

@Fickji

3 жыл бұрын

I tend to horde skill points in all games where skill points are available. So it makes it easier to decide later what to dump them in.

@rigobertorosenbaum9838

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this problem exists for a minority of players. But with so few people feeling this way I can see why this isn’t much of a problem to others. Lol

@Dracounguis

3 жыл бұрын

You need to replace "Nobody", with "game journalists". 😉

@rigobertorosenbaum9838

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dracounguis just trying to be more perceptive with there decision. I never said what I stated was correct. 🙃

@chomosuke0720

3 жыл бұрын

@Gold Star Gaming To be fair if you're still playing this trash I'd be questioning your intelligence

"This may be confusing and overwhelming to new players." What new players?

@rufusconnolly8489

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I found that comment hilarious XD

Players: "This game has no endgame content" Developers: "Let's slow down progression since there is no endgame content"

@savannahmorgan-george-mcco6760

3 жыл бұрын

Literally

@kin4386

3 жыл бұрын

In most games that have bad endgame content, that would normally be a good thing, since the trip to get there would be more fun depending on how good the gameplay is. The problem with Avengers is that the trip itself is already fucking boring.

Avengers: "Damn, nothing. Maybe if I shoot the other foot I'll get money!"

@AxxLAfriku

3 жыл бұрын

I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest KZreadr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear ja

@TraustiGeir

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku The infamous AxxL strikes again.

@The.Nasty.

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku 7 years, 30k subs, repetitive boorish content... I enjoy laughing at your mediocrity more than your videos.

@stevemac6707

3 жыл бұрын

@AxxL the funniest KZreadr ever eh? That's why you're advertising your pile of crap channel in a comments section. Oh ok, rightio... 🤦‍♂️

@VioletDeathRei

3 жыл бұрын

There's your mistake you still have legs, maybe shoot those?

"lets make it grindier to make it more fun" few months later: " oh look we are selling xp boosts to increase leveling speed!"

@sartnowelye3236

3 жыл бұрын

of course they are creating the problem to sell you the solution down the road XD

@azraelswrd

3 жыл бұрын

"time savers"

@meleemastermaa1449

3 жыл бұрын

""""Optional"""" xp boosts

@Kacza42

3 жыл бұрын

few months? do you really expect game to not be Anthem'd for that long?

@Graavigala85

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kacza42 well just like the devs, I too think the players are stupid enough to play it that long

As Xzibit would say: “Yo dawg, let’s put some grind in your grind, so you can grind while you grind!”

@IAmDaDumb1

3 жыл бұрын

This is an absolutely prehistoric meme

@yunioraguilar7289

3 жыл бұрын

@@IAmDaDumb1 and its amazing

@-ninjanOodlez

3 жыл бұрын

It's supposed to go like, "yo dawg. We heard you like grinding, so we added some grind in your grind so you can grind while you grind".

They’re kinda calling the average gamer stupid lowkey

@dorn0531

3 жыл бұрын

Nah this is “Game Journalist Difficulty” thinking. They forget that gamers are often much better at games than Kotaku writers

@huntedx

3 жыл бұрын

@@dorn0531 tru shit

@AdrianBigyes

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Stupid Loki

@kanon951

3 жыл бұрын

Whoever bought this game is pretty stupid though

@huntedx

3 жыл бұрын

@@R3TR0J4N defending something when they know it’s shit and they know they could get something better is a mental illness

“Confusing and overwhelming to new players” What new players? Seems like they should be doing everything they can to keep the 14 players they still have.

@labenvenci1584

3 жыл бұрын

You really have to have less then 100 braincells to find this "game" overwhelming or confusing.

@chincemagnet

3 жыл бұрын

Thas right Boi

@shinkamui

3 жыл бұрын

hard agree. Solving the game pacing its something you have to do before it launches. The time for doing things to new players is not now.

@TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle

3 жыл бұрын

@@shinkamui The time for doing things for new players can be a little after launch, like Dice making Battlefront 2 an actual decent game with acceptable progression after the huge backlash. But a game that’s already been forgotten about by everyone outside of the handful of people who still play it, many months after launch? Yea, there ARE no new players at this point, literally all they have is the shrinking existing playerbase. The only hope for getting new players at this point in the game’s life would be to improve the game so much that the current players hype the improved game up and pull more new players in by word of mouth. Which is the total opposite of what they’ve done here, they’ve just accelerated its demise by alienating the only players they have left.

@shinkamui

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle yeah there’s no shortcut. They have to get to work on actual content and stop meddling with things that pushes players away. Final fantasy xiv also released a huge patch with qol for new players, and that makes a lot of sense now that theres a lot of hype and people flooding in. But avengers here want to build the roof while the walls are just crumbling down

I'm calling it, they're doing this to sell booster packs down the line.

@duden7983

3 жыл бұрын

Well, you need players to sell booster packs.

@baranugraha2562

3 жыл бұрын

"Punishing loyal playerbase because $$$, Surely they wont leave us when we choke them slowly" -Higher up, probaly

@omegaxtrigun

3 жыл бұрын

If that is the reason, it’s an asinine one. It’s not like boosters would sell well. With their current player counts that wouldn’t even get over a thousand sales. And the xp change drives away new players with “oh sorry you didnt play before we nerfed xp. here buy some boosters to fix the problem we intentionally created”. So very little if any sales there.

@mollyanderson657

3 жыл бұрын

All these problems on a live game

@35shadowthehedgehog

3 жыл бұрын

If they make it that far...

"We want each decision to invest in a skill or Heroic to be more meaningful." Why does it reads more like something I already heard from the past but from EA? "To provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes"

Anthem, Avengers and Artifact: AAA games as a service in a nutshell.

@jonahcolombo4131

3 жыл бұрын

What’s anthem?.....

@user-pn4py6vr4n

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonahcolombo4131 It was that game that everyone unanimously groaned at when the announcement revealed it was actually a card game. Or was that the other one?

@jonahcolombo4131

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-pn4py6vr4n 🤷🏻‍♂️

@zaynvarenshutain5279

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonahcolombo4131 anthem was biowares last nail in the coffin lmao

@yes8362

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-pn4py6vr4n Artifact is the card one

“People with too much money can be confused by the choices they have. Our changes is to address that issue by siphoning away money from your bank accounts and paychecks. We’re sorry we weren’t originally clear with our cash grab.”

@seanc9520

3 жыл бұрын

They want to sell xp boosters, get it.

@Poopookachew1

3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how much of this situation carries over into real life. "You don't know what to do with all of that wealth. Here, let us take it off your hands via a dozen tax regulations, and we'll hold onto it for you. In fact, let's flatten the average man's real wage increases over several decades while inflation increases. That should help you get that sense of pride and accomplishment much later on in life when thinking about buying a home, compared to earlier players who were simply overwhelmed with progressing too quickly with too much. Where's the fun in not being challenged with debt?"

@ReigoVassal

3 жыл бұрын

@SNEEDman [Formerly Chuck’s] not only you buddy. We all. Everyone. Now we understand and can relate to Squidward more than anything. Especially with annoying neighbor that always trespassing into your house.

“Your ability to crush enemies certainly does speed up at higher levels” Oh the horror can’t have players making a power fantasy out of playing the freakin hulk

@GeorgeMonet

3 жыл бұрын

The HUlk is easily one of the weakest and most vulnerable characters in the game. He gets staggered, damaged and interupted by EVERYTHING while most enemies have non interruptible attacks, invincibility, etc. They took everything that should have gone to the Hulk and gave it to the mobs. Ms. Marvel has more durability than the freaking Hulk.

@wanicki3575

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeMonet that sounds pretty awful the games terrible reception was enough to prevent me from getting it for sure not that I ever planned to

@battlion507

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeMonet Hey, remember HULK: Ultimate Destruction? That version of the Hulk in game is superior than this lukewarm title.

@One_of_Many750

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds A Lot Like Destiny.

@bigirononmyhip3812

3 жыл бұрын

@@battlion507 what u think of mcu hulk? Were u as disapointed as me?

So they are basically saying that they aren’t responsible for releasing not enough content but players are because they are playing their game too fast.

"So what's the problem?" Quote sounds like "Do you guys not have phones?"

Judge: Did you have to shoot the victim? Defendant: Well I didn't want to overwhelm him with stabbing.

@Bakanineinstein

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough... Have a nice day!

@matohibiki

3 жыл бұрын

That's thoughtful AND horrible.

@Bakanineinstein

3 жыл бұрын

@@matohibiki As Robin Williams Genie once said to himself... Genie1: I'm Thor! Genie2: You're Thor? Genie1: Well it hurts...

Isn't it obvious? They want to sell you XP Boosters, and they can't do that if you level up at a decent pace.

@Xonarag

3 жыл бұрын

Well decent leveling speed wasn't a problem before either was it?

@zombehnashun

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xonarag Exactly. It wasn't broken, so they broke it for you and expect you to pay them to fix it.

@XxLeatonSxX

3 жыл бұрын

@@zombehnashun this guy gets it

@thelegendaryklobb2879

3 жыл бұрын

It's funny and slightly endearing at this point how the devs really try to justify this change. Do they really believe people don't see through the PR bullshit? We're in 2021, well past beyond the "lootbox crisis". Gamers are more aware than ever of the AAA industry scam tactics. Speeding up the early stages of playthrough and slowing down the latter ones leads to the classical pacing strategy of mobile "free-to-pay" games. First the hookup that gets you hyped, the "honeymoon"stage. And when you're finally "engaged" the reality kicks in and you find yourself inmersed in the grind, willing to pay for shit that speeds it up like XP boosts, top-tier characters, gacha fuel or straight pay-to-win microtransactions. At least the game should go truly "free-to-pay" if they are implementing this shitty update.

@wallywest4727

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't XP boosters, the only paid content is shitty overpriced cosmetics. I wouldn't be shocked if they added them but right now there's no boosters.

Hall & Oates's song really fits this situation. "You're out of touch I'm out of time"

"yo I'm getting moves too fast" -no one E V E R

"confusing to newer players" yeah, newer players that you dont have lmao

@chickencurry420

3 жыл бұрын

This type of move seems nore like they're specifically trying to avoid new players

@zeraora2607

3 жыл бұрын

They are gonna go free to play any time...

@TheStargov

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeraora2607 before or after the game dies?

@KodmaniacX

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheStargov Too late for the before part.

@kentonbaird1723

3 жыл бұрын

I came here to say exactly that. WHAT new players? Nobody wants to play this!

"too many skillpoints to review!" Grim Dawn: *too many what now*

the problem is that people aren't BUYING leveling up from the perspective of the devs

Game dev: "you're just too stupid to understand the genius of our dying game"

@tommyllama4558

3 жыл бұрын

thats what im thinking, like forcing us to sit down, and talking to us like children telling us whats good for us.

@baranugraha2562

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy you genius game that's bleeding playerbase

'Overwhelming for new players' - What new players? You keep giving more reasons for people not to pick up the game there won't be any new players!

Yes getting skill points and leveling up at a normal pace is just SO confusing. It leaves me wondering, "Hey how did I get these skill points? Am I playing a game right now? What is life? Did I leave the stove on? I am so confused right now."

They are just *willingly and fully knowingly purposely shooting themselves in the foot* - it's absolutely amazing

I wouldn't be surprised if the devs just really wanted to kill this pathetic cash-grab and move on to their own projects .

@tedjomuljono3052

3 жыл бұрын

This is most likely their goal, to find an excuse to shut this down

@belyayevsfox4753

3 жыл бұрын

I could imagine Bioware devs doing the same for Anthem by doing the bare minimum work to not get fired

“Welcome to the end of Marvel’s Avengers” is what Maestro should have said.

@tubetubecommentor4795

3 жыл бұрын

Or should he say "Avengers: Endgame"

"If you run a marathon with these glass shards dipped socks on you feel even better when you finish!"

"How to kill a game, even more, speedrun any% flawless."

Pride and Accomplishment 2: Electric Boogaloo.

@thebenc1537

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody gets a sense of accomplishment because of the amount of time something takes you to do. Overcoming struggle is what gives you a sense of accomplishmen. Just getting through a game simply because it takes too long? That should not be the struggle.

@TG-ge1oh

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Dark Souls doing this. You walk for 7 days in real time before encountering the first hostile entity.

"If we don't manufacture a problem, how can we sell you a solution?!? Don't you guys have wallets?"

@HBKshowstopper

3 жыл бұрын

"It just works!"

@FreedomPLMarcin

3 жыл бұрын

lmfao

@allzofeel

3 жыл бұрын

Lol was that a certain mobile phone reference?

@enolquindosgonzalez1900

3 жыл бұрын

Ubisofts motto

@detroid_ntr4all675

3 жыл бұрын

Deal with it. From a business perspective, this is the best choice. Sorry but remember, companies aren't your friends.

mark my words, they will release leveling boosters in the cash shop

You’re better off just going and playing any of the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games.

@IllusionistCard

3 жыл бұрын

Still got 2 on the PS3

@RokushoTheRavager

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly though

@galanakagalactus903

3 жыл бұрын

@SmashStomp Inc But the first game has mods to make it look and run better.

@kin4386

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard that the new one is actually fairly average and even THAT looks way more fun than Avengers.

It truly is strange that these companies WANT to lose millions of dollars.

@captaintoyota3171

3 жыл бұрын

They do not understand their product just profits. Thats execs 4 you

@Nero7441

3 жыл бұрын

@@captaintoyota3171 I don't understand how this move is going to make the game more profitable. I foresee more players just leaving the game.

@current9300

3 жыл бұрын

The corporate suits are chasing those hundreds of millions they see successful service games like Fortnite and Apex Legends churning out. They think it's worth it to waste tens of millions in attempt to make it.

@Yanuu

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoyBlunder66 that’s a really good point

@doclouis4236

3 жыл бұрын

@Raven Brown You forget that Disney is the epitome of "these companies".

Crystal Dynamics is trying to kill this game so they can get out of this “Games as a Service” bullshit. Just look at every decision they have made with this game. Their first post character release was 1 day before Cyberpunk released.

@basharalassad1073

3 жыл бұрын

maybe they really are trying to kill it

@kelnhide

3 жыл бұрын

That's a nice theory

@jaku9730

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they saw that Bioware is allowed to make a single player game after the Anthem disaster and thought "I want a little bit of that!"

@Not_Claptrap

3 жыл бұрын

I dont play this game. What's games as a service?

@Not_Claptrap

3 жыл бұрын

@John Eric so games as a service are games that are basically just microtransactions with nothing worth playing?

I feel bad for the last 5 angry players left. I cant Imagine their pain...

Next update: we’ve add a xp boost that cost money.

"We think levelling up is confusing for newer players, so we're going to increase XP needed to level up AFTER level 25" This is about as stupid as EA's "rewarding the grind" bullshit.

I'm really digging this bold assumption that they have "new players" to even cater to. That's the sort of confidence in yourself that turns people's heads.

@baranugraha2562

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr, what are doing rn is punishing their loyal playerbase (the community)

@inakimendiberri2226

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention this wouldn't even sound attractive to new players. "Hey, start playing our game. We just made it so you have less toys to play with right away and put more mind numming repetition in there because we think you're a bumbling moron who cannot read what 2 new skills do every so often. Ain't this really attractive?"

@AngryGerbils

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely turning the game's head... all the way around, complete with a sickening crack.

@brokengood3621

3 жыл бұрын

Bwaha - i like your style OP

@ghostman76015

3 жыл бұрын

after all this I wouldn't play it if it was free. Grinding for nothing isnt a hobby of mine.

They manage to kill The Avengers faster than any villain can

I just love how this licensed cash grab is going down.

'' I'm so overwhelmed by the number of skills my character has and i want this to stop'' Said no gamer ever

"Lets give less awards so you feel more rewarded"

@Kyugorn

3 жыл бұрын

"Am I a joke to you?" - Some person somewhere at some time that has always LOVED unlocking all the skills they want faster than slower. "Oh no! Not at all! Just a walking piggy bank. Don't waste time breaking now~!" - corporate

@Saieras

3 жыл бұрын

OSRS players: "Well they're not wrong..."

@WR-nx9hb

3 жыл бұрын

They going to slow down the progression then they going to add micro transactions to level up faster

@TommasoFirmini

3 жыл бұрын

@@WR-nx9hb no, they're putting the final nail in their own coffin lol😂

“tHiS GaMe iS GoNnA DoMinAtE mY LiFE” - Greg Miller

"It's your fault for still playin this bare minimum game!"

The real breaking news: Marvel Avengers has players.

@Troupe_Master

3 жыл бұрын

I mean there are fans of Marvel and the heroes that exist outside the MCU so no reason to think no one plays it

@alexknight81

3 жыл бұрын

@@Troupe_Master what?

@Troupe_Master

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexknight81 im sorry your illiterate I cant do anything to help you

@muiyamcha6296

3 жыл бұрын

@@Troupe_Master i mean all 10bplayers that are left will move over to dc at this rate

@alexknight81

3 жыл бұрын

@@Troupe_Master wow thanks for being an asshole mate, cheers

They have to be doing this shit on purpose at this point.

@stoffelthedestroyer3741

3 жыл бұрын

true, but what is the motive? I studied business and I am breaking my head trying to figure out the profit from all of this..

@ghost245353

3 жыл бұрын

@@stoffelthedestroyer3741 The developers probably want to quit but can't

@skyuru

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like Capcom: they give but dont give what the fanbase want lol

@superdewott3209

3 жыл бұрын

Could be they legit are trying, it's just not working

@nova8747

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghost245353 Sounds like the most plausable explanation. Dev's want to kill this shitheap off quickly so they can start working on a more fun project. They most likely can't simply quit due to contractual obligations, so they're forced to kill it off.

Seeing his shirt... The first thought that came in my head was, 'Is that his Mom on the shirt?'

They forgot this wasn't a free mobile game.

"Why are we losing players?, ah it must be because players are levelling too fast and it's confusing their small brains"

@labenvenci1584

3 жыл бұрын

Worst part is that their insulting their players as unintelligent or down right moronic without saying it directly.

Single skillpoints feeling meaningful is actually a valid approach... when you have a well structured single player game that isn't supposed to be grindy.

Personally I felt the leveling was already too slow.

Upcoming video: "Marvel Avengers Next Cancelled"

28% upvote, are you telling me that there are people who actually agree with the notion of more grind? Some people are beyond stupid i swear...

@JPogi690

3 жыл бұрын

I think those 28% upvotes are just fanboys of Marvel franchise in general. They're so thirsty for a new update/content that they're willing to take anything even if it makes the game more grindy asf. That is just sad.

@kosmosfan01

3 жыл бұрын

@@JPogi690 I figured that's what it was when I saw that upvote rate. People keep comparing stuff like that to an abusive relationship. If they enjoy the game, it's one thing but they have to admit when something isn't good.

@AniGaAG

3 жыл бұрын

Fanboyism for Marvel mixed with a healthy dose of sunken cost fallacy.

@ericm5315

3 жыл бұрын

It's Reddit, anything gaming related there turns into a cesspool of toxicity because gamers come in 2 types; those who play and those who whinge.

@chincemagnet

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, some people will like every single thing they see whether they actually like it or not. Especially kids, they’re brainwashed to press like.

slowing down levelling says 3 words to me, free. to. play.

@evanmaguire2688

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no.

@lucariopokemon13

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god!

@guansuo448

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@dpray96

3 жыл бұрын

It says different words to me, Selling Experience Boosters.

@janoliver7436

3 жыл бұрын

This shit will likely be free to play by 2022

Imagine if your job said "we realized we were paying you to much money and that could overwhelm you so we'll cut your pay so it will be more rewarding"

Avengers: makes grind slower EA: what if we take their idea but make players pay to speed up grinding🤔🤔

Leveling becomes slow, 2 months later: Level up microtransaction boosts appear.

@ingamingpc1634

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@airinghouse

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, wouldn't be surprised if this becomes F2P to boost its playerbase and they're just preparing for the freemium model.

they say "we keep hearing", and that is the truth they just omit the "from our focus group of 8 year olds" part

I have to ask, has there ever been a case where the players ask/"demand" for longer grind (leveling progression, resources, etc)? I know people have complained about games being too easy but I dunno if that equates to some sort of longer grind. (then again, a shortcut to "difficulty" is basically grind with number buffing.) holy hell, that response... The only time leveling up quickly is an issue is when you are forced to spend the points on the spot, which even then depends on the game still. Wait, they made early leveling faster? Whoa, thats too big brain for me. But you know what, these devs really showed those other devs who decided to allow their players the full moveset early on (or at least by the end of the storyline). Clearly limiting the players full moveset to 30hrs post-story endgame for each character is the best move.

Even before the game was released, people should have known that it was meant to be a cash grab. Making a live service game by licensing the most overused superhero characters was an easy way to lure Marvel dickriders into giving up their money. Just like what Nintendo does with their Ips.

When I see these types of "controversies" I feel that it's the Publishers testing the waters, so they can gauge how far they can press their luck for future projects, by using failed games as the test subjects.

@thebenc1537

3 жыл бұрын

Good point! Devs could never experiment like this on a successful game. They must run their tests on failing games. Would be too risky to try these tricks on a popular game making lots of money.

@Carnax6969

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebenc1537 Indeed, but I'm accusing the Publishers, because I hope that the Devs are in-touch with the consumer base and know that shit like this doesn't fly well to the majority. It still baffles me how people can defend anti-consumer and/or egregious monetization practices.

@thebenc1537

3 жыл бұрын

@@Carnax6969 I blame everyone invovled in a bad war from the generals to the footsoldiers.

Reminds me of the time the ANTHEM dev team accidentally buffed the loot drop chance Then everyone still playing thanked them... only for them to call it a mistake and nerf it even harder 🤣

@yanirfezodiakgold4479

3 жыл бұрын

Game of the year.

@Treerootz1

3 жыл бұрын

Anthem 2.0 will be worth the wai..... oh nevermind

@cristopher8186

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely hilarious, how stupid can a company be 😂😂

@cacomeat7385

3 жыл бұрын

Devs need to stop seeing every accidental thing as an issue. Hell, some of the most fun game mechanics in history have been accidental glitches that their respective communities learned to love. Fuck, the entire GTA franchise came from a bug found in their original concept of the first game.

@bertholdtohoover446

3 жыл бұрын

@@cacomeat7385 nuke ghandi

Remember final fantasy 14 1.0 that introduced the exp fatigue System? The thing where you could get only a certain amount of exp per week and after that you would just not lvl anymore at all for the rest of the week... That was one of many things that stoped people from playing and lead to FF 14 2.0 in the end.

My favourite part was this bit from the Polygon article. 'To conclude the post, the developer recommends that anyone who has a character that isn’t already level 50 level them quickly before the change takes effect.'

There’s being tone deaf, and then there’s just straight up refusing to see logic.

Fans: "Fix the game now, final warning." Developers: "I can do this all day." *adds more grind*

@uuu12343

3 жыл бұрын

Instantly dies

@SickOfTheWorldXD

3 жыл бұрын

Why did I hear the "I can do this all day" in the voice of NCT?

@cobbil

3 жыл бұрын

Also Devs: "Hyeuk, I'll fuckin do it again!"

The reason they make early game progression faster and later game progression slower lies in psychology that is often applied similarly to f2p mobile games. You get an early influx of rewards and gameplay dynamism that serves to both get you emotionally invested in the game and to make you feel zero pressure with resources. Things like daily and weekly “missions” that drip-feed you resources are there to turn this feeling into a habit, to establish a sense of normalcy tied to not having to ration what the game gives you. Then after you have made a routine of logging into the game and progressing at a certain speed, progression slows, difficulty rises, and the rate at which both of these occurs begins to overshadow the rate at which you can feasibly gain the means to work around these problems. This wouldn’t be too big a deal in and of itself, but the game is designed to have spent weeks if not months to psychologically condition you to play in a certain easy and stress-free environment, an environment that they are now strategically taking away from you. So most people, consciously or subconsciously, form a desire to return to normalcy(the desire depends on the person. Some are mildly annoyed while others can legitimately get serious anxiety) and it is at this point that the game introduces monetized ways to return to that habitual game state. Maybe it’s a character that power creeps the current cast, maybe it’s an XP Booster, maybe it’s more stamina to access time gated resources, and hell some games are brazen enough to let you buy levels and top-rate equipment outright(the infamous VIP “red button simulators,” oftentimes). Of course, this isn’t complete without 1. simplified, gear-reliant gameplay that suppress skill and mechanical depth. Cue The Hulk not being able to handle foot soldiers of his gear score isn’t high enough. And 2. It wouldn’t be endlessly monetizable if it had a real end goal. Cue barebones story mode and unsatisfying gameplay loop. In short, this progression change is just them preparing to offer one do the aforementioned “solutions” to the problem they created. It’s step 1 in a multi-step process to squeeze more money on a tiny player base in a half-dead game before it finally kicks the bucket.

*CHANCE LOG* - Quality improvements and general stability *in reality* - created a problem - introduced solution - decresed xp drops - added new xp boosters - introduced new shop

“Boss, we have almost NO gamers playing this game! What can we do to bring people back and gain new players?” “I know. Make the game even worse. That’ll bring people back!”

skillpoints confusing players lol Path of Exile: "That's a problem ?!"

@ingamingpc1634

3 жыл бұрын

Well it confuses me wondering about where I'm going to put the skill points into my skills but that's about it I usually choose the skills I think I actually need and then I go about my day in the game like nothing happened it usually takes about a minute

@bballjosh11

3 жыл бұрын

As someone with thousands of hours in PoE, I cant imagine how rough that game is for new players.

@MrMestapholese

3 жыл бұрын

It might be rough, but there are a million different guides out there for new players. The community has really been one of the shining beacons of PoE.

@propheticrain-maker1486

3 жыл бұрын

I remember first getting PoE and only focusing on DPS in the skill tree. Didn't end well lol

@higgsbosontesticle

3 жыл бұрын

@@propheticrain-maker1486 I sure hope you weren't playing on hardcore!

We are planning on selling an item that increases your exp gain but you are already getting so much exp, so we decided to lower the exp gain so you would buy said item when it releases. >=)

Marvel's Avengers Dev's: *Make braindead choices* Yong: "Here i go making video's again!"

“The game is confusing and overwhelming, we want choices to have meaning” has to take its place among “sense of pride and accomplishment.”

Marvel's Avengers Dev: "Let me just pour some napalm on the fire......"

All Square needs to do is open a comic book and start programming. It should be a story driven game. Just like Spider-Man on PS3. They can even do a combo or open world and story

I like to look at positives. You made the man who just got admonished for the original message feel much better. You did do that.

The best prt is this guy literally copypasted the same thing they said before. “ You see, it’s not x, it’s x. Why you don’t understand me?” Can’t wait for the insults to the playerbase to arrive. Remember kids, this is what you paid for. You keep buying, they keep treating you like this.

Players: "That's fucked up!" Marvel: "You just don't understand how brilliant we truly are." Players: *Abandon ship* Marvel: *Surprised deadpool face*

@paulrasmussen8953

3 жыл бұрын

Deadpool goes back in time and kills the idiot that thought this was. A good idea

@mbob4337

3 жыл бұрын

This nonsense needs a 500 mile sized shocked deadpool.

This kind of reminds me of what The Secret World did with it's re-release. Said that the ability wheel was too intimidating for new players(kind of is to be fair.) So they did away with it and way dumbed down skills, killing all ability/weapon synergies. Killed what I thought was a fun aspect, there was so much to play around with. Now it's pretty limited and basic.

How is this game still alive? Just take it out the back and put it out of its misery, even Anthem had the decency to do so

@steve833333

3 жыл бұрын

The game is dead. Live service garbage can't survive with a few hundred players. But killing it now would only make Square Enix look bad and/or potentially lose the license. They have no choice but to venture on and support it. You don't want Disney on your ass.

@majorBearsky

3 жыл бұрын

Took em forever to do so tho, so i think if this is killed off soon it'll be classified (to me atleast) as worse then anthem

@QullVideo

3 жыл бұрын

EA wasn't so kind. They let Anthem's rotten corpse stink out the room for months before finally abandoning it in a ditch.

@MazeMaker4Life

3 жыл бұрын

How long did it take for anthem to get put down? Couple years right? Expect marvel to die near the same length of time.

@TrigoNomentry

3 жыл бұрын

But Anthem was "alive" for almost 2 years before they finally canned it. Avengers game will go on longer but these recent decisions will probably axe it sooner.

I also want to point out that, as someone who has a lvl 50, the reason we the players view skills much later when theres a bunch of them is cos the skills are kinda un interesting and repetitive across the board for most heroes we already start with all the powers, after that its all just power buffs

Sometimes certain games can be confusing at first, especially games that have a lot of menus. The one thing in each and every game that I've played that has never confused me on any level is leveling up. It is literally the most straightforward thing in gaming. These idiots want to monetize leveling up, watch.

I’m calling it now This game is not even gonna get half its character dlc out before its development shuts down

@deicidium1887

3 жыл бұрын

It's baffling at this day and age, they can just get other rpg-looter-beat em up ideas/concept and improve on them. Everything in that game is kinda the opposite of what's supposed to be a good live service looter game. It's like they've been living under the rock (similar to what Massive did with Division 2 after the fixes/improvement they made in Division 1)

@3Guys1Video

3 жыл бұрын

@@deicidium1887 just give me a damn role playing party game of the avengers except this

@drax1s729

3 жыл бұрын

@@3Guys1Video Marvels Ultimate Alliance franchise is the best one I know.

@3Guys1Video

3 жыл бұрын

@@drax1s729 welp I’ll play that instead Or I’ll just play Spiderman PS4 again

Can’t wait to see this join Anthem and Artifact in the discontinued bin.

I kinda like how everyone and I mean everyone is telling the developers what the problem is with the game. CONTENT. CONTENT. But to the developers believe XP

Looking at what I'm hearing about Avengers, and comparing it to Persona 5 Strikers, it's night and day. In P5 Strikers, once you're done with the first 30-40 minutes of tutorials and story setup, and you actually enter the first dungeon for real, they straight up go "Ok, here's like 8 characters to play, all at once, all their core combos are unlocked. Go". I felt like the developers actually *trusted* me to take the time to learn how the stuff worked after the initial tutorial, and respected my intelligence. And they STILL had some meaningful upgrades to pick up along the way, despite having all the core fun stuff unlocked from very early on. .....Wait, hang on...WAIT, the devs for Avengers said they boosted the level curve EARLY ON??? But I thought they wanted players to take their time getting used to new moves??? Early on is when you're overwhelmed, by the time you're at the end of the game, you already know how the game works and aren't going to be overwhelmed, and thus you can gain tons of new moves quickly and all that'll do is engage you! This entire thing makes ZERO sense! :o

This feels like some kind of insurance scam. Like they're tanking the game on purpose to cash in on a bet or something.

I remember when we had Marvel Heroes Omega, that was a great Marvel game with almost all the heroes possible in it, free to play tons of fun and then they removed it from us.

@Iced333

3 жыл бұрын

It was made by former Diablo 2 devs. Unfortunately the license agreement was with Marvel before Disney and Disney chose to cut Gazillion off killing the game.

@MarkLangdahl

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't exactly great at launch. I ended up playing it from around 2015 and just in the time I ended up playing it (from 2015 over 2016 and to Omega) there was a lot of stuff added and especially the monetization system was massively overhauled to make it more fair. Because it certainly wasn't from the beginning. I think I ended up spending something like $20 on it altogether and I got around half of the heroes in the game, by far most of them I got for free through gameplay. What I'm trying to say is that of the live services that have ended up good only really few were actually good from the start. From what I've heard WOW, Apex Legends and the two Guild Wars games are the main examples. The rest basically grew into it. I'm not saying that it's going to happen for Marvel's Avengers. It's probably not basically because they don't seem to have any grasp of what is actually wrong with the game. David Brevik certainly had an idea of the initial flaws of Marvel Heroes. It certainly is an uphill battle and I find it a lot more likely that it will go the way of Anthem than it doing a No Man's Sky...

@TG-ge1oh

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarkLangdahl You forgot Warframe. But yeah, you're right.

@MarkLangdahl

3 жыл бұрын

@@TG-ge1oh I didn't. Warframe very much started out with all the trappings of a live service including full on pay to win in the form of orokin reactors and catalysts only being purchasable by platinum. I am aware that a lot of people are mourning the current state of it. But it has been a lot worse. I'd say DE have always tried to do F2P right. But it took them quite some time to actually do it right.

@TG-ge1oh

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarkLangdahl You've got a point there. They did face a lot of pitfalls and hurdles before eventually getting the model right, and now I hear the model's gone messed up again.