The dude's not saying never eat donuts. He's just saying junk food is not a sound basis for a diet.

@themadtitan7603

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha ha no

@jjbb84x

4 жыл бұрын

@@themadtitan7603 Oh, go be "inevitable" someplace else! 😂 (joking with ya!)

@themadtitan7603

4 жыл бұрын

@@jjbb84x lol

@rockhero2274

4 жыл бұрын

Neither is 8 glasses of water like everyone else says

@richmackey565

4 жыл бұрын

Well put!

After actually hearing him speak, I finally realized how much the press has blown his comments out of proportion...

@snoookie456

4 жыл бұрын

of course they would, I mean that's what the press does

@mikerotonda6264

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! It wasn't that bad... He didn't attack marvel he gave an answer, that in it he used marvel movies as an example for what he was trying to say.... I understand what he Means, but I do think marvel movies are cineama

@JonathanEBoyd

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking they made it seem like he slandered the movies all together he just said they're different and now everyone is in outrage about it but he was very fair and thoughtful in his assessment

@Thomas-VA

4 жыл бұрын

So he didn't use the words in question. What about Coppola or Jennifer Aniston pile on?

@r2b2ct1

4 жыл бұрын

He's still wrong though. He's claiming that they aren't cinema because they aren't substantive narrative films, instead they are "theme parks." This is wrong. Marvel movies absolutely are narrative films. The fact that there are expensive and thrilling cgi scenes doesn't change that.

If you think about it. Hollywood is saturated with Superhero films, movie franchises, Sequels, prequels, Remakes. Production companies don't want to back young filmmakers who want to make their own "Taxi Driver" or real cinema type film. Even Scorcese had a very difficult time trying to get funding for the Irishman

@Kxycxx

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Besides he was just taking about different viewing experiences and whether or not they will affect the traditional cinema experience

@Valuemeal_papi

4 жыл бұрын

how is that marvels fault? 3 movies a year n about 4% of all movies in a year are "invading cinemas" when i get denied for W/E reason i dont go around pointing fingers....with a movie thats 3 hrs 45mins thats good enough reason for theaters to back off... plus WE the people decide on what we want to spend our money. Good movies make money...not superhero movies. If that was the case how come the justice league did so poorly? IMO quality is objective to the viewer. viewers decide whats good quality by investing in it. if their product is not wanted maybe they should redefine their understanding of quality and adapt. because at the end of day its about making money n pleasing movie fans. SO dont blame marvel...BLAME the peolple

@shawklan27

4 жыл бұрын

@@Valuemeal_papi well said but I do feel like releasing one mcu film a year can reduced the comic book fatigue some people are feeling

@spudbuttowski

4 жыл бұрын

@@Valuemeal_papi The statement "good movies make money" doesn't really hold up today when you see garbage like the live action Beauty and the beast and the lion king make a billion dollars. Also factor in the live action Alvin and the chipmunks 4 films, the 3 smurf movies with Neil Patrick Harris, and marvel films like Captain Marvel. Let's get this straight I dont have a problem with marvel (I think the formula is a little repetitive) but i have no real problem with them the bottom line is sometimes the bad product over shadows the good because they certain buzz words are used like "strong female" or "first black hero" and that makes the people of those demographics buy tickets regardless of the quality of the film because they want to "support their people", also nostalgia plays a huge role these days people will buy a ticket to a movie they know they're not going to like just to make an hour long KZread rant on why it was terrible, so sometimes the good movie doesn't win. Just like how teen titans go has better ratings than the original teen titans. Does that mean it's the better show?

@Talal_111

4 жыл бұрын

@@Valuemeal_papi "good movies make money" lol good one

Al Pacino looks like a friggin' rockstar.

@LadyVader33

4 жыл бұрын

leonardo h he is 😎

@settagashista142

4 жыл бұрын

He is god of acting, with the boy de niro near him

@jacktorrance9378

4 жыл бұрын

He is

@hannibal19

4 жыл бұрын

@@settagashista142 I agree with everything except one thing that he's boy

@TonyKalashnikov

3 жыл бұрын

He is bigger than rockstar

people are now realising that martin was spot on.

I don’t know why people treat Scorsese so harshly... he’s so sincere and passionate about his art form. He’s so supportive to other filmmakers. He gave praise to Wes Anderson at the beginning of his career and Ari aster at the beginning of his.... He’s so lovely.

@Bjork4s

2 жыл бұрын

He's besties with Spike Lee, his favorite movies aren't just in the late 20st century, he named Hereditary as his favorite horror movie of the year, like damn the horror movie that divided audiences but get tons of loves from critics. Hereditary is one of my favorite horror and the fact that it got praised from Scorsese, man i respect him more

@itsallgoodman4108

Жыл бұрын

@@Bjork4s also gave GDT’s Nightmare Alley a genuine seal of approval. Problem is getting butts in seats, though the preservation of the craft must come first. This streaming deal is a lifeline for directors but severely limits their artistic reach. I fear for when the OG’s of cinema are gone in 10 years

@m.syauqiabdurahman2798

Жыл бұрын

​@@itsallgoodman4108 yeah and he also praised Ti West's Pearl and that movie disturbed him (and me and other people).

@itsallgoodman4108

Жыл бұрын

@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798X and Pearl were great saw them both on the big screen

@neilwiththereeldeel

10 ай бұрын

yes he gave praise to something as amateur and shitty as an Ari Aster movie, and that is the pseudo intellectual equivalent of the anti intellectualism of saying MCU movies are art...but the latter is always criticized instead of the former because it requires to use your brain just a little bit more to understand how an Ari Aster movie is a melodramatic, amateur POS...and the fact that even Marty can't see that demonstrates fully the 100 year decline of western culture to think tangibly about any art...

He is absolutely correct. When you go to see a Marvel film, you do it for the sake of thrill and fun. After you leave the theater, you feel like you had a blast. It's like a visit to an amusement park.

@flom6416

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I’ll do a screenshot of your comment it’s so perfect

@27aritrasinhaxb63

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But they are fun and we can learn teamwork from marvel movies and lifelessons from DC's Watchmen.

@jacksonarcher5881

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean it's not film it cinema though.

@erosion271

3 жыл бұрын

isnt that the whole point of films? to entertain?

@haosmagnaingram6992

2 жыл бұрын

@@erosion271 but as was stated there are different ways of entertaining and those are to be defined. Just as a serialized show is entertaining for example the first season of West World or perhaps Naoki Urasawa’s monster, they are still not what would be classified as a different way of telling a story, as was addressed by Scorsese in this very clip. And large expansive franchise films are the same way in the vastly different approach to how character arcs and progression is approached and with how narrative beats are utilized. It’s like the short story vs the novella vs the novel vs book series, or the format of comic vs graphic novel vs light novel vs manga. It’s not an attack on marvel but the identification for the need for distinction and Scorsese just happened to choose the word marking the distinction as being called cinema for a current lack of a better word for describing this form of story telling medium.

This aged extremely well

Every sensible word is falling on deaf ears.

@user-vn9te3lw7r

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@alnasraltair8948

4 жыл бұрын

that is when you learn the art of not giving a f*** about anything anymore

@psinha6502

3 жыл бұрын

@@alnasraltair8948 about most of the things

It is insane that a man that is making movies for 50 years needs to explain why he doesn't like cartoons with live actors that are otherwise called MCU.

@justice_productions_

Жыл бұрын

Watch captain America winter soldier. That is no cartoon. Some movies feel that way I get it, but there is something for everyone in the MCU. Check out daredevil seasons 1-3, they got a 4th one coming soon

@rankoorovic7904

Жыл бұрын

@@justice_productions_ What is so "deep" about Winter soldier?The supposed discussion about the surveillance state?

@justice_productions_

Жыл бұрын

@@rankoorovic7904 The Price of Freedom is high, but it’s a price we should all be willing to pay. There’s a lesson of trust too, I used to not like the movie for how it made sheild fall so early on in the MCU but as I’ve gotten older and wiser in my 20s I see it’s all a metaphor for our own government in the USA. Especially after epstein….there’s no doubt there’s a lot more we don’t know and it gets really messed up the deeper you look. Winter soldier is a masterpiece and that’s not even discussing cap putting aside his feelings for Bucky his best friend/ brother who he fought side by side with in world war 2 to save the word from that same evil. Being Hydra. They themselves a blend between the Nazi’s and todays Russia as we see a tyrant attempting to take land that is not his. Cap is a man of the people not the government and we see that shift in the movie when he realizes how things have changed in the modern world

@rankoorovic7904

Жыл бұрын

@@justice_productions_ Surveillance doesn't work like that neither does resistance to it.Still a naive and childish movie a fun one but still a childish one.

@justice_productions_

Жыл бұрын

@@rankoorovic7904 Who are you to say fighting back doesn’t work? And I’ve seen Italian mob movies, fat privileged guys in suits acting tough….Good movies some of them… but only for people of that demographic.That gets old faster than multiple ongoing stories from decades of comics, shows and what not. The “western” comparison applies more towards the mafia movies. MCU is still going strong. Atleast 1 if not more of the MCU movies makes a billion and it triggers people like you and boomers like Martin who remember geeks being the losers when now it’s flipped LOL

Let's get this straight. Scorsese has been making 'great films' for well over 50 years, many of them 'masterpieces'. He is in his mid-70's and and still making great films at a pace of that of a man half his age. He may have made some films that you don't like but seriously, the man has NEVER made a bad film. Scorsese, literally....IS cinema. He breathes it, and teaches it. He knows more about cinema than YOU!!. I've seen A LOT of posts on how Scorsese is "out of touch". Some of the keyboard warriors I've read posts on will even have the audacity to think they know more about cinema than Scorsese!!!!! Well, you dont and not even close my friend. Thats something akin to Justin Bieber or Sid Vicious explaining music to Mozart!!! Scorsese's films are going to be remembered and studied a hundred years from now. I highly doubt the MCU universe films will be.

@randombro89

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Navis MCU it’s just pop culture trash nothing deep or relevant. It’s disposable sure it may be fun but it’s not art and there’s nothing deep there

@hemanownsyou

4 жыл бұрын

People saying he is out of touch are right. He is out of touch. People like him, and you, can't seem to grasp the fact that Hollywood changed. It will ALWAYS change. He clearly can't accept that. He doesn't know much about cinema if he thinks he gets to define what cinema is. Also, quit overrating his movies. Some of them aren't actually that great.

@chef2234

4 жыл бұрын

LOL people are sheep, since he has opinion I must agree, and follow all he says.

@aabhassinghthakur4548

4 жыл бұрын

Well said man actually they are immature as a viewer they just love the crap some guys saving the universe everytime.Martin scorsese is and will be the most influential director of all time Taxi driver,goodfellas,raging bull,gangs of newyork and every movie he made reflects a piece of an art.

@bruceleeds7988

4 жыл бұрын

All I'm saying is... If he had the same energy for the Star Wars movies in the late seventies then that is fine

I agree with Martin Scorsese the majority of Marvel films won't stand the test of time.

@w-james9277

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think any of them will. Not even the really good ones.

@markrestua1276

4 жыл бұрын

Same with the original Star Wars trilogy. The effects dont hold up, but the story telling and characters do. 20-30 years from people will love the first 22 MCU movies because of the story and characters they developed.

@drsoe08

4 жыл бұрын

Star Wars is original, even though the effects don't hold up, the story and characters do.

@MrJole777

4 жыл бұрын

facts

@MrJole777

4 жыл бұрын

Endgame will be remembered for being the highest grossing movie, just like Avatar thats it. Movies like TDK,Logan, Star Wars even the Raimi Triology, (Iron Man 1,Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War) will be remembered decades later.

This aged so well

People are now getting the point of understanding of what is happening with Hollywood now. What these Disneyfied movies are doing to real cinematic experience. Thank you Mr. Scorsese.

@greysoul8109

4 жыл бұрын

@avto walley who hurt you?

@hh582

3 жыл бұрын

@@greysoul8109 Reddit

@Bjork4s

2 жыл бұрын

This is true and Scorsese experienced this. Because people are so obsessed wih franchise films, no studio would ever want to fund The Irishman. Took him and De Niro 2 decades to get The Irishman to the big screen. It's sad what movie studios had become, they care much more on money than making a good quality movie

I'm not going to lie, it's basically Fine Dining v Fast food

@northman4514

2 жыл бұрын

That was pretty accurate ngl

@johannesgrell4356

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the best comparison, you could also say it's Biber vs Bach.

He is right you know. Marvel is fun, like a theme park. And we love Marvel and theme parks. But MUC is not deep, it's not gut wrenching relatable human experiences. Some people go to the museum to see Rembrandt, some people go to see a flashy lights installation.

@RB-dl8gr

4 жыл бұрын

well unless you're god who can summon lightning, a tech and weaponry billionaire with an iron tech armor suit, a nerd scientist who can turn into a mean, green , fighting machine or anything around that ballpark....I highly doubt any real person would have much to relate to since these are highly unlikely to occur in any current human experience js.

@Northshoreboy135

4 жыл бұрын

Gotta disagree here, a man in a flying metal suit or a god who can summon lighting are merely the surface of these characters. They are very human and very relatable. They go through very human problems. Spider-Man just wants to be a kid and have a girlfriend and have fun. Iron man loses his control when he finds out his parents were murdered and wants to kill the person who did it to them, he also has PTSD after a traumatic experience in his life. Thor and Loki may not even be human but they have one of the most human struggles of all... one dude is a rebel who has to learn that the world isn’t about him and to care about other people, the other is an adopted son who just wants his father to love him. I think to say that just because these characters have these steely impossible exteriors and ability’s, that means we can’t relate to them isn’t fair at all. And you can see this fact by all the people who have been touched emotionally by these movies. People who have laughed in these movies, people who have held their breath in these movies, people who have cried in these movies. If what you say is true, that we can’t relate and therefore connect to these characters then you have to explain why people cried when Spider-Man died, or why people cried when iron man died, or why you could hear a pin drop in every theatre in the world when thanos succeeded in infinity war at killing half of everyone. It’s cause ppl have connected, ppl can relate, people do care about these characters. And isn’t that one of the biggest parts of cinema? And emotional connection with the characters your watching.

@Northshoreboy135

4 жыл бұрын

Nic Rock thanks for the post dude. I don’t know man. I think the writing and connection thing is a matter of opinion. A lot of ppl feel the way you do and a lot feel the way i do. But one thing u brought up was a comparison to Sam Raimis Spider-Man movies (which I also love, even more than the Tom Holland movies). Remember the question is “Is Martin S. Correct in calling them theme park movies. I mentioned the connection to the characters as a point to say that no he is wrong they are real cinema. You brought up a previous Spider-Man movie. I’d bet everything I have that Martin S. Would say Sam Raimis Spider-Man movies were “theme park movies” also. Cause he isn’t say they aren’t real cinema cause (like we debated) you can’t connect to the characters. He clearly has his own description of what he feel real cinema is and neither the marvel movies or Sam Raimis movies (I’d bet) would fall in that category. So now tell me would you agree with Martin S. That spider man 1 and 2 (Toby M.) are “Theme park movies”? If not then you understand why I say he is wrong about the marvel movies. Because every reason you might come up with in your mind to disagree with him about the spidey movies and say they are real cinema. Those are the reasons I say marvel movies are Cinema.

@quinnmitchell516

3 жыл бұрын

Their characters are really overshadowed by their alter egos. They truly go through great and deep character arcs from the beginning to end. Some people just need to open their eyes to these kinds of things

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

@@Northshoreboy135 Finally, an actual reasonable person. Thank you!

Marvel man-children keyboard warriors thinking they know more about cinema than the greatest filmmaker of all time lol

@andrewcruzsmith2343

4 жыл бұрын

One of , have you not heard of Kubrick or whats his face that made 7 samurai

@thbledar4774

4 жыл бұрын

Scorsese is 100% the greatest filmmaker alive. There are some other filmmakers that have made iconic films and have influenced cinema: those mostly being kubrick, kobayashi, tarkovsky and the guy that made seven samurai named akira kurosawa

@khaidaigo3653

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcruzsmith2343 Akira Kurosawa

@andrewcruzsmith2343

3 жыл бұрын

@@thbledar4774 dude you straight bugging Kubrick is the better film maker

@thbledar4774

3 жыл бұрын

andrew cruz smith Yes. Of course he is. When did i ever say that he wasn’t? We were talking about the greatest filmmaker alive and Kubrick died in 1999 while Scorsese is still alive and well.

How did I ever get so worked up about this? He never said Marvel movies were bad. He never even said anything negative about them. Just don't watch only Marvel movies, which I've always agreed with

@LeftytheGansterGremlin

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you can recognize that you worked yourself up over it, and come to a mature understznding. Not many people can do that.

MCU Movies are like the song Despacito, it's the most watched music video of all time but it does not mean that is a masterpiece song, do you know what I mean?

@user-nb3qg7ps6u

4 жыл бұрын

some nice example right here

@ariastrwn7933

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i get it

@elpablitorodriguezharrera

4 жыл бұрын

avto walley world would be silent if beethoven’s music are masterpiece. But world would go to war if they should agree on despacito is an masterpiece.

@elpablitorodriguezharrera

4 жыл бұрын

avto walley world would be silent if beethoven’s music are masterpiece. But world would go to war if they should agree on despacito is an masterpiece.

@Fabian-ro5en

4 жыл бұрын

@avto walley Yeah but despacito is not Bohemian Rapsody, is not 9th symphony, is the masterpiece of regeaton but it doesnt have the hard work or quality or genius . You can say Despacito is Avengers: Endgame, Bohemian Rapsody is The Godfather. they are not bad but is a different process and one has more quality than the other

I am a Marvel fan, but the man has a point.

@karlmarx828

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He didn't say marvel is bad, he said that disney is monopolizing the industry.

His comments really weren't that serious. Like Samuel L Jackson said everyone has their own opinion.

@Bjork4s

3 жыл бұрын

Even Jon Favreau agreed with his opinions. Scorsese is his biggest influence in filmmaking and he respects his master and people should respect Scorsese too. RDJ has no problem at all as he said "He's Martin Scorsese" man can people just take this as a normal valid criticism

@fulippuannaghiti1965

2 жыл бұрын

With that statement you're automatically placing Scorsese's opinion at the same level as any other dumb virgin out there on the internet. People just need to shut up instead of spitting endless opinions about something they are not educated at, Socrates warned us about the danger of abusing our democratic power.

@dr-johnnysins

2 жыл бұрын

@@fulippuannaghiti1965 well it IS an opinion is it not? hes not some sort of omnipotent being (debatable) that says something and were required to take it into consideration and ponder on it lol. you can heed his words or ignore em just like you can with anyone else

@fulippuannaghiti1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr-johnnysins what you fail to understand is that the person who's expressing the opinion is an expert in the field. The problem is not whether he's expressing an opinion or not. It's undeniable Scorsese's expertise level in the cinematographic industry, you probably weren't even in this planet when Scorsese started his career, and still you consider Scorsese's opinion the same as anyone else.

It's crazy how mad people get bc one person has an opinion now. Whether or not you agree with Mr. Scorsese: Take Martin Scorsese out of cinema and you'll notice a massive hole in art history... Take the MCU out of cinema (yes 'cinema') and only one thing is mi$$ing...

@mehulkoshti08

4 жыл бұрын

Epic burn 🔥

@mathiyanz

4 жыл бұрын

You're wrong but okay. That's like saying take Star Wars out and only thing missing is money.

@kurtharford162

4 жыл бұрын

@@mathiyanz Ohhkkay? You're wrong in reading my response. I was specifically talking about MCU. Not Star Wars. Take the MCU out and what happens...

@kurtharford162

4 жыл бұрын

@@mathiyanz And to double back on that, I'd say the same for Star Wars. The last 5 weren't exactly the greatest...

@mathiyanz

4 жыл бұрын

@@kurtharford162 I know you were talking specifically about the MCU but you are still wrong. The MCU has been an integral part of the pop culture for the last 10 years. Of course removing it will have an impact! An entire generation of people have grown up with them.

I think he deals with more realistic movies. Marvel movies were never gonna be his thing.

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He’s just not on the same wavelength, and that’s okay.

@fulippuannaghiti1965

2 жыл бұрын

Avatar is not realistic, yet it's a masterpiece under many aspects. The difference between Marvel movies and Scorsese's is that the first focus on entertainment and the second on contemplation. Today people are too shallow and lazy to go for the second I guess .

I like Marvel a lot, and I like comic hero characters but I also agree with Martins points on the MCU. Dont get me wrong, I really enjoy the MCU. (Guardians of the Galaxy being one of my favorites) but I totally see what Scorsese talking about. MCU films are very formulaic. If you see one you pretty have an idea of what the all the others are going to be like. After a while they do start to become an overused gimic and more of a fashion fad at the moment. Just like how shoot'em up Westerns, B-sci-fi movies and the classic Universal Monsters were the film fads of their times. Also, the MCU is owned by Disney which in many ways puts some real limits on what kind of stories they can tell on the big screen. They need to keep a "kid" or "family" friendly reputations and avoid "offending" anyone. As a result, you'll never see an MCU film like "Joker" that is made "exclusively" for adults that want to be challenged. Even Deadpool wasn't green lighted by Disney and that was made more for rebellious teenagers.

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

Gaurdians of the Galaxy, in my opinion, is one of the best movies of all time. I’ve seen many of the greats. It just happens to be that I enjoy my movies being a bit more fantastical and weird while also being a bit more straightforward as well. All the people who are calling these movies garbage...? I doubt they’ve watched more than two marvel movies. And Dark Knight, Inception, and Prestige are the best movies though.

@fhinpus

3 жыл бұрын

@@calvinjohnson6242 I've watched every mcu movie and series and all of them are cash grabs not cinema

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

@@fhinpus Even if the corporation itself makes these movies for money, which is essentially why all movies are made, the directors and the producer, Kevin Feige, are putting their heart and soul into these movies. Even if you don’t like them, they are unarguably art that was made by artists, and art that many people love. If you disagree with that, you are blind to the way society works. Comics as a genre was never meant to be super meaningful and perfect. It was supposed to be fun. People have FUN making them and watching them. Anyone who hates these movies on a basis that they are “all the same” is flat out wrong, as many have had completely different tones and genres. Ant Man is a Heist movie. Guardians is a space opera. Winter Soldier is a spy thriller. There is no universe where the way you treat these movies is not pretentious and arrogant. So please, shut up. Cinema means MOVIE. All movies are cinema.

@alexandercave5714

2 жыл бұрын

@Richard Parker I do agree with you except on your point about Joker. I don't think that film was particularly challenging at all, it was sort of like a Kidz Bop version of Taxi Driver, a lot of the points it tried to make were watered down and not explored very well, and since it was still a comic book movie, it just felt like the average corporate product attempting to pass itself off as 'artistic' by being pretentious in an attempt to cover it's shallowness. It's an OK movie, a decent remake/remix of Taxi Driver/The King of Comedy, but I would actually argue it's one of the biggest examples of the comic book genre dominating cinema without having much to say, and as a result, wasn't as challenging as it clearly thought it was being. That's just my take on it though, and I know it's a generally well-regarded film, so it's possible that I'm just missing something.

@4thpeverell142

2 жыл бұрын

Marvel being owned by Disney really limits what storytelling potential Marvel has which makes em the cookie cutter films they are being ever since Black Widow.

Superhero fans try to cancel Martin Scorsese for thinking that Marvel movies are theme park rides but most of those fans are wrong because Martin Scorsese predicted the future where superhero movies are failing in the movie theaters which did happen this year with Ant Man & Wasp Quant mania, Shazam Fury of the Gods, Blue Beetle, and The Flash due to those films having terrible cgi that wasn’t completed in post production where VFX workers are over worked

Eagerly waiting for 'Killers of the flower moon '. Leo and DeNiro together. Hope this film will rock at the oscars

@czetuh

2 жыл бұрын

F*ck the Oscars!

Pacino always look like a gangster. He's Tony Montana for his whole life now

The GOAT is right.

@DC-zi6se

4 жыл бұрын

Martin Scorsese is the greatest asset of America. All Meryl Streeps and Nicholsons and Brandos and Pacinos can't touch his influence or knowledge regarding cinema. He is the greatest ambassador of American cinema ever.

@Warhaawk

4 жыл бұрын

He's completely right and also very wrong. Aside from that fact that it's irksome that he comments on the MCU while also saying he's never seen any of the pictures. The financial considerations for movie goers now a days are huge. Take a family of four to the theatre for one movie or pay for all of your streaming services for that month for nearly unlimited entertainment programming where each member of that family can watch their own choices? Heck, for films that are NOT huge visual extravaganzas streaming is an exceptional way to watch with no people around you in the theatre being rude, with their smartphones as an example, plus unlimited rewatching. Excellent way to watch deep character pieces and dramas. While the experience of the theatre movie going experience is still the best way to see "amusement park ride" movies, those big bold massively visual experiences like the MCU, Star Wars, etc. It comes down to the best use of a person's entertainment dollars. Scorsese couldn't get The Irishman greenlit by the major studios with the budget he wanted, but Netflix did it. Streaming is the perfect home the character driven work. Heck, if it wasn't a good home for it would someone of Scorsese's character and reputation have even consented to make it with Netflix? Of course not.

@charisma7312

4 жыл бұрын

Tarantino is the goat buddy

@drsoe08

4 жыл бұрын

@@charisma7312 hahahahahahahhaahaha No. Far from it.

@ricardocantoral7672

4 жыл бұрын

@@charisma7312 Yes if you're ignorant about everything he lifts from.

Lot of people are being nice here actually want to bash him but could not because he is a legendary figure... Someone who has contributed to cinema so much and maintained the aesthetic and purity of story telling... So he wins I guess... 😂😂😂

@Young_Dab

4 жыл бұрын

Marvel wins too 😊

@worldinfo1014

4 жыл бұрын

@@Young_Dab yeah sure... Scorsese wins his game and marvel win theirs

@Stephen-lt1tp

4 жыл бұрын

No CGI ruined all modern film in general especially comic movies. Comics are made to be read on paper back. Not a digital computer format which is what the three hour movie is. And why a comic movie that’s a three hour soap opera, everything‘s a remake. Do you wonder why no comic movies modern times have won an Oscar. They are trash.

@Stephen-lt1tp

4 жыл бұрын

CYVstudio May I ask what your top three or five favourite movies of all time are?

@Stephen-lt1tp

4 жыл бұрын

CYVstudio ya you're not really a movie buff if those kid flicks are your top... I guess you play video games too?

And Steven Spielberg said Netflix are TV movies 😂

@drunkendesperado2128

4 жыл бұрын

Steven Spielberg is the highest grossing director of all time North America & Europe

@gabrielidusogie9189

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't Speilberg get his start in cinema by making tv movies.

@jakfan09

4 жыл бұрын

Some TV movies are pretty good though.

@comadrejasarpias7632

4 жыл бұрын

he is right. telefilms.

@cometcourse381

4 жыл бұрын

who really gives a shit what Spielberg has to say? he's one of the worst filmmakers currently working.

Taxi Driver > Entire MCU

Out of all the comments I read about Scorsese saying Marvel movies are not cinema not one took his entire statement in context.

One can’t blame Scorsese or Coppola for espousing this view. Both filmmakers came to prominence at a time when young people were questioning the tragic consequences of their parents’ generational childishness. These two directors responded to that challenge with greater realism in their work. To their mind, the popularity of Marvel probably feels regressive, like a return to 50s superhero tv shows. And if I’m right in assuming that, then the backlash they’ve received probably also feels regressive. It’s like a return to 50s witch-hunts. 60 years ago there were certain sacred cows in this country that a person simply didn’t question. Scorsese and Coppola did question them. But young people today on a whole aren’t like that. They might think they are “woke”, but that’s really a contemporary, trendy dogma. How ironic it then is that in this sense, Millennials and Gen Y folk who feel affronted by the questioning of their own sacred cows are behaving more like their grandparents then like their parents.

@nermervillarreal2691

4 жыл бұрын

Dang man, you spilled it out exactly how I think

@Kinobambino

2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏

@oscarpineda5598

Жыл бұрын

Hi A question What do you think of the mcu?

I am one of the first few hundred people that watched the video. Now I'm part of history.

@mostafaahmedibrahim2541

4 жыл бұрын

Your comment has 69 likes you are the chosen one

Sit down Marvel fanboys, understand what Scorsese meant when he said Marvel movies are not Cinema!!! Listen and understand what he means cuz he has a point and he's right!!

@AkiraLionPilot

3 жыл бұрын

He didn’t even say they were bad. Just that they’re an entirely different thing from what he thinks is cinema

@Bjork4s

3 жыл бұрын

@@AkiraLionPilot exactly, people are overreacting to this but they don't understand the actual point of what Scorsese means and he is right, more of a theme park film than a Cinema film

@arkyudetoo9555

2 жыл бұрын

We have to sit down because one "American" director says it's not cinema?

@Bjork4s

2 жыл бұрын

@@arkyudetoo9555 lmao, he's more than just an American director sweetheart

@arkyudetoo9555

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bjork4s Still, it's argument from authority. Because he says so therefore it is so.

He has a point. Well said that man

Marvel is the McDonald’s of films. Cheap , easy not the most refined . But tasty . That’s it . Scorsese is the Ribeye steak .

@Wesleyminaker

2 жыл бұрын

👌🏻

@stfuperson9450

Жыл бұрын

Accurate

Been bingeing clips of Scorsese, there’s something so endearing and incredible about him and his passion for film

No matter how clear and respectful one person is with his opinion, there will always be toxic people on the internet who like to troll people to death for no other reason. These people are what is wrong with the media now.

@LeftytheGansterGremlin

3 жыл бұрын

They have the power in this situation. It's infuriating.

@Bjork4s

3 жыл бұрын

They just like to jump into conclusion without knowing what he really mean. It doesn't sound like he's trashing the MCU, his honest opinion wasn't that harsh. He's concerned that franchise films like MCU are the main thing that will be shown in theaters with ton of people cheering and screaming while the movie plays like they're at a theme park ride. Yep Marvel movies are theme park movies alright and he's right. His opinion wasn't that harsh tho. People just like to take his comment out of context. It's not like he tells Marvel to not making movies, he still acknowledge the talent of filmmakers in making movies

I love the Food comparisons because they illustrate the problem really well but there is a crucial difference: Fast food is cheap whereas good and healthy food can be expensive. With movies it is just choice and there is no reason why anyone couldn't choose to feed their brain with the highest quality entertainment. Same goes for music.

Lmao in the beginning deniro looks bored out of his mind, Scorsese looks so tired he could fall asleep right there, and pacinos just there like ‘fuck I’m awesome’

Absolutely agree with him on Marvel movies. Hit the nail on the head with the amusement park analogy.

@likelybased

4 жыл бұрын

Marvel movies are better than martins movies

@othmanehaldaoui

4 жыл бұрын

And why he just mentionned marvel movies and not dc?

@siu542

3 жыл бұрын

Then why do you watch marvel movies

@soloistdeve

3 жыл бұрын

@@likelybased Inferior.

@likelybased

3 жыл бұрын

Soloist Deve lol it’s not even a debate

The media made him sound like he called the MCU garbage

I'm a Scorcese fan as well as a Marvel fan. I love superhero movies since my childhood. But I think what made me love cinema and filmmaking so much are the movies which were made by directors like Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Francis Ford Coppola etc. But my doubt is why the superhero movies and the Marvel movies are turning into huge blockbusters while Scorsese's movies aren't reaching upto that mark commercially.

This is relatable to MCU phase 4

He is 100% right. MARVEL films are.....just fun films. Nolan, Tarantino, Scorsesse, etc. Make MOVIES. EXPERIENCES. ART.

@a.t.3192

2 жыл бұрын

Tarantino movies are just fun too. They're just fun made on a higher calibre of writing and filmmaking.

@plasticweapon

2 жыл бұрын

ehhhhh, one out of three ain't bad..

@JBrown_Trivium

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.t.3192 I agree, but they have meanings, true messages and aren't cookie cutter copies of each other. The nest way I can explain it is, when I go to see a Movie, I want to sit there for 1.5 to 3 hours and be totally engrossed in that film. I don't want, every 20 minutes, to be reminded I'm watching a film due to 'Easter eggs' and obvious references to other films in the CU. It takes me out of the moment and I realise "oh I'm in a cinema/watching a film".

@a.t.3192

2 жыл бұрын

@@JBrown_Trivium What Tarantino has a deeper meaning/message? I mean, I guess you could argue Django is about racism and the dehumanization of slavery but that's more incidental because of the plot than a concieted thematic exploration.

man i haven't seen those old guys in so long. glad to see them back

Who else saw ad for Martin Scorsese Masterclass right before this video? So cool. Coincidence or algorithm?

@ericrenquist6494

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. I've been getting a ton of those Ads.

Can't really see the outrage over his remarks. From what I can tell he was making a distinction between viewing experiences of various types of movies and why theatres should allow all those different movies to be shown regardless of say, length etc. He didn't curse marvel or disregard their movies he just said they were a different viewing experience from *"traditional cinema"* (whatever the hell that means)

@RB-dl8gr

4 жыл бұрын

The way I see it his movies are like Jazz/more classical music, Marvel is more pop. Some like one or the other, some like both but both are music, they are just in different genre's...Marvel is cinema.

@mrakasuryakusuma551

4 жыл бұрын

I think what he means is "cinema as product". Older films were made to be their own ideas and art, while what marvel, dc, and maybe others are doing is making movies that are basically products to be used and forgotten for money

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

Mm, he called them “theme park movies.” It’s honestly just a sort of accidentally condescending way of saying that he watched the first couple and they weren’t realistic or gripping enough for him, so he assumed they were all cash grabs and didn’t actually watch the good ones. It’s super understandable, but I disagree with his opinion.

Nothing he says here is wrong. He may be a little bit snobbish in his views, but ffs he's Martin Scorsese. If anyone can speak on cinema, it's this guy.

@parsleyisthicc

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see it as snobbish, I see it as someone who's very passionate about filmmaking.

@stfuperson9450

Жыл бұрын

Snobbish? What the fuck are you talking about?😂😂

Usually conferences are so boring, but one with Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Martin Scorsese, it is the ideal conference

I'll let you know what Scorsese Means Sure Marvel movies are the rage at the moment. And I too enjoy and cherish them. But Years from now None of these will matter the same way Like Taxi Driver ,Goodfellas , The Godfather, Terminator Judgement Day,There will be Blood, Pulp Fiction , Apocalypse Now , 2001 A space Odyssey , The Shawshank redemption. Now this what Scorsese MEANS

@addisonb.1356

4 жыл бұрын

Yes those films are considered "classics" They became classics because of usually a good story and how much they were loved and viewed by the public around the time. To me it kinda baffles me that people believe these movies will be forgetten because trust me they won't. The company itself has been making comics since 1939. Marvel has been for so long. And it's not just the movies that will keep the franchise alive. People hold conventions and fill there house with merchandise of these characters. People cosplay and dedicate there lives to making fanart of these characters. People even make video games and short films on KZread of these stories. So how could people actually believe these stories and movies will be forgettable. Are they the best movies in the world? No of course not. But that's not what matters. It's the impact that it makes on the audience that's what counts

@addisonb.1356

4 жыл бұрын

Yah marvel movies are the rage right now. But marvel in general has been the rage for a very long time. That's why it has lasted for so long

@juansamudio1171

4 жыл бұрын

I'm Batman Daredevil Netflix will live on forever because that was a real master piece

@radutgm9394

4 жыл бұрын

Belive me it will,in specialy endgame,i m a big fan of Martin but its just his opinion,but avengers will live forever

@felixblue4525

4 жыл бұрын

say whatever you want. Endgame wont be forgotten at all Endgame is Cinema at its finest

Marvel nerds are in denial

@WL1264

Жыл бұрын

But he said was dumb. He literally hasn't watched any of the marvel movies. So how does he even know.

@stfuperson9450

Жыл бұрын

@@WL1264 ok nerd

@codycigar6542

9 ай бұрын

​@lirainweerasekera643 He has tried to watch several and did not like them so this is false. It is the absolute lowest tier slop like waving keys in front of a baby, if you like Marvel films you are dumber than rocks.

@Xyztothe3ofbeat

Ай бұрын

@@WL1264 ok kid

As a MCU consumer and cinema lover, I get Martin's point, Marvel movies are fun and entertaining but that's all, there are other kind of movies that wants to show you more and explore different worlds, and stories, have a real connection with this characters and their problems, he's not even saying they're bad, he is just saying that is not cinema, and he's right it's a different experience, that only wants you to have a nice experience, but that's it. It's beautiful to experience other kind of films, and not just get stuck in MCU.

@ericfelds6291

Жыл бұрын

Wow I’m shocked, a lucid and insightful mcu fan

I'm just happy someone said it, I wish it wasn't blown out of proportion though. This man makes amazing movies

He’s not wrong, superhero films are derivative as fuck. You pretty much know exactly what’s gonna happen

@Ccfatfat8427

5 ай бұрын

I’d compare it to porn, we all know how it’s going to end.

Big W Scorsese

i think its a great idea to have option of streaming and theater in the same time and let the audience chose thats very good

5:03 Marvel comment

Everything will find its own place as time comes no need to worry.

@AA-sn9lz

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, all we can do is trust time, and go out there with your camera, and make your picture. Really love what Netflix is doing tho

@convadodeltaro1997

4 жыл бұрын

Pure unadulterated truth.

Well he's our greatest living American director, so I'm with Marty on this one.

@matmurk8536

3 жыл бұрын

Lol okay buddy

@AyushBhadouria

3 жыл бұрын

He's an old man with just an opinion... Life must be hard for you if you need a old man to decide what's good for you

@jothishprabu8

3 жыл бұрын

I think marty is kinda overrated. Most of his films are mediocre tbh. Directors like Tarantino, PTA, Kubrik, Spielberg are genuinenly Talented filmmakers.

@jamessmithe5490

3 жыл бұрын

@@jothishprabu8 If you think Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, and Goodfellas are overrated you don't know much about movies.

@abdur194

3 жыл бұрын

@@AyushBhadouria the same "old man" is considered the best film maker of all time

he is 100% right

RIP Chadwick Boseman...

Yeah... his comments were taken out of proportion. And he’s right about most of what he said.

Not only do i agree with what he said but i applaud him for taking this stand and saying it out loud. These superhero craps where the world is coming to an end, only to be saved by these superheroes, are so boring to watch that i would rather watch Melancholia hundred times and rather watch the world come to an end.

@jaykambli9307

4 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to imply that melancholia is boring?

@randomguy56789

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah superheroes are boring

@othmanehaldaoui

4 жыл бұрын

@@randomguy56789 how old are you ?

@ufg1510

3 жыл бұрын

okay chill god, just because you don't like it dose't mean you have to hate it.

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

It’s people like you who game Scorsese the bad name he got among Marvel fans. You misunderstood him as much as they did.

Scorsese was right!!

for someone this old and influential, he has a much more optimistic attitude towards streaming and the future evolution of viewing films than expected.

Scorsese will go down in history as the man that broke MCU fans

Comment sections like these ones make me lose faith in humanity.

@Burgalo2001

4 жыл бұрын

Man...It's just silly children who worship marvel crap. They have no idea who Scorsese is

@mkocel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Burgalo2001 YOURE AN IDIOT WHO DOESNT KNOW WHAT MARVEL IS.

@kkkkkk-sj3wu

4 жыл бұрын

Scorsese = trash movie

@marvelansh1569

4 жыл бұрын

@@Burgalo2001 Now you don't act like an expert buddy.Calling MCU fans as kids makes you a fan boy of Scorcese.Every movie is not supposed to be a movie made by Martin,they have there own specialities.People aren't stupid to watch these movies if they are crap.

@scoobert8217

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this comment section is almost entirely made up of Marvel fans saying Scorsese doesn't know about cinema, and pretentious cinephiles who feel validated by a big director critiquing a franchise that they dislike.

4:50 Marvel Movies

Omg reporter SPIT IT OUT and direct your question lol

That "question" is the longest non-question ever

The best audience I shared a movie with was Avengers Infinity War. I also loved First Man (2018) and the theater was empty, enjoyed every minute of it as well.

I think the new marvel phase might fail, the infinity war saga cannot be topped

@marcosmc3709

4 жыл бұрын

Man Bro no it won’t it’s just taking a year break right now

@akanshajaiswal534

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcosmc3709 death' of the MCU fanboy attacking on this Post

@donpepe8440

4 жыл бұрын

With Captain Marvel being the first bad mcu movie and endgame being kind of a let down Phase 4 doesn't seem good

@marcosmc3709

4 жыл бұрын

Don Pepe Endgame wasn’t a let down its the highest grossing movie all time most at the box office

@donpepe8440

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcosmc3709 It was worse than Infinity War so it was a letdown money is another thing

Martin has a point. I think he just describe it in a way where Marvel fans will get triggered. I like watching Marvel movies but when I compare it to the films of Martin Scorsese, I can mostly relate to Scorsese's art. That's all, everyone has opinion and we as an audience and fans should be open up to criticism.

"Marvel films are just like theme park you just enjoy not to experience as cinema" as marvel fan I couldn't agree more Guys says nothing wrong, it's true fact we cannot destroy the cinema, originality and creativity of the direction we have put a limit to entertainment industry and look up to experiencing cinema

@akhlash4974

2 жыл бұрын

Time flies, things change. So style of movie changes along with it. If you want to watch then watch, if you don't then fu** off. As simple as that

@magicavocadoproductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@akhlash4974 oh man I can't wait for the future! Everyone is a comedian type character and has very funny quips in sad or serious moments! Let's not forget a big battle with all the well known characters that apparently people want in all movies now! (Yeah I'm being harsh dickhead, my apologies)

Finally somebody said it!!!! Marvel superhero movies ruined Film!!!!

@user-dv6nh3mu3y

4 жыл бұрын

They even ruin rotten tomatoes

@thepumpkinking1841

3 жыл бұрын

I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!

If anyone is interested, you should check out Anthony Mackie (MCU's The Falcon) talking about this kind of thing. It's quite interesting.

I got an ad for Martin Scorsese’s Masterclass.

Was Batman cinema? Micheal keaton was my favorote actor and I watched all of the new movies at the cinema

@illuminate_day

3 жыл бұрын

20 movies with the same plot isn't cinema.

@mysticalmaniac2

3 жыл бұрын

@@illuminate_day they definitely didnt have the same plot lmao , stop acting like you know shit!

@illuminate_day

3 жыл бұрын

@@mysticalmaniac2 Slow down there boy, they're all basically the same apart from Winter soldier and Infinity war. I can sense you haven't really watched a lot of good movies.

@heartfulbreeze6801

3 жыл бұрын

@@illuminate_day what about star wars?

@illuminate_day

3 жыл бұрын

@@heartfulbreeze6801 Star wars new hope was the movie that made most scifi movies possible. It was one of kind of it's time. Now it's just one among many.

He's right too. Marvel has lost its soul. So boring.

@WL1264

Жыл бұрын

But he's saying that marvel never had soul

@randomacc7721

10 ай бұрын

​@@WL1264 did until Disney bought it

@WL1264

10 ай бұрын

@@randomacc7721 so guardians of the galaxy has no soul?

@randomacc7721

10 ай бұрын

@@WL1264 yeah that shit was ass

Big HD TV´s will never replace theaters. Just a week ago I went to see Stanley Kubrick's The Shining. I love that movie and of course I've seen it many times in TV. But inside a theater is a a whole new level, acoustically, the level of details, the sound, the atmosphere, the sensorial experience. And of course there's the warmth of sharing your experience with a social group which amplifies and enhances the whole feel. I like Netflix but it won't happen. Motion pictures came to stay.

I respect all genres of cinema i think Scorcese’s professional opinion will definitely boost both the theater and “Marvel”game and hopefully we’ll see a Mobster / Marvel

Anyone who says that Scorcese is not going with the time and not evolving is absolutely wrong. This man tries out different types of animation technologies before anyone else and is going with the time using platforma such as Netflix to have access to ressources that enable the production of movies that would not been produced otherwise and also made available to a huge audience but also to cinema goers. I love the marvel movies but I also understand Scorceses point and also see the negative aspects of big money movies. What is crazy is that the media made this topic so huge even though he didnt really diss marvel...

When I was a kid, I used to see young actors get old with makeups. When I got old, I now see old actors get young with CGI.

imagine Martin Scorsese directing a Deadpool lolol. Even those who agree w Scorsese have to agree that could be something

@mikedags3516

4 жыл бұрын

Michael B he does more serious stuff tho.

@Lone432345

4 жыл бұрын

It would probaby be two hours of Deadpool beating his wife.

@rohitchakraborty8162

4 жыл бұрын

Remember Wolf of Wall street... Martin might have a mindblowing deadpool version of his own

Marty is right. Marvel are more tv than real movies: serialized, with the same directing/shooting and narrative style. If Marvel would give complete control over the look, story and characters to directors- then it will be « real » movies. Untill that day that will never come- Marty is right.

@hemanownsyou

4 жыл бұрын

No, he's not. MCU movies are just that, movies. Deal with it.

@frenchcoupon3391

4 жыл бұрын

hemanownsyou more like expensive and serialized tv movies. Maybe only Infinity War, The Guardians and Dr. Strange are real movies here.

@hemanownsyou

4 жыл бұрын

@@frenchcoupon3391 They are all real movies. You have to be a special kind of stupid to argue they aren't real movies.

@frenchcoupon3391

4 жыл бұрын

hemanownsyou don’t talk s... please. I have Martin Scorsese in my camp. Make some short movies and then comment on something.

@gabrielidusogie9189

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Comicbooks are inherently serialized. Makes sense that films that adapt them adopt their nature.

“What he said” LOOOL

Scorsese is absolutely right! And the thing that creeps me out the most is how propaganda like the marvel movies are and alot of the marvel fans have this wierd cult like obsession with it that if you say anything bad or negative about the avengers or iron man the fans immediately attack you like you insulted christ or some weirdo shit the whole thing is crazy

*Maybe The Real Cinema Was the Friends We Made Along the Way*

Who ever use that theme park term first is a genius

Okey, so if Scorsese is _Fine Dining_ while MCU is _Fast Food_ , and that really makes sense to me... Than what The Holy Mountain by Jodorowsky would be?

@codymulholland9524

2 жыл бұрын

Shrooms

Now what he just said they're sounds a lot nicer compared to what everyone said he's been saying so is the media spinning this or was he really doubling down on his claims it Marvel is at cinema?

I think movies are movies. You choose what you want to see standing in the line and all aren’t Marvel or Disney. Do You take your kids to see this or a a Tarantino film. Hell No! The genres are outstanding. There is always a reason for someone speaking. Marvel has two movies coming out next year the rest are other forms. I think it’s an insult to the actors being that there is dialogue and commentary and storylines.

Looking what's happening currently with Marvel, he was correct. 👍

Marvel films are like cotton candy. They’re bright, tasty and fun but eventually dissolve away. Disney and Hollywood have become a consortium, a machination if you will, to take nincompoop’s money with abysmal movies that are about as unvaried as a job at a call center. We should take solace in the perfection of Martin Scorsese’s films. He’s the rare breed who’s gotten more and more relevant with each passing year. The subjugators of Hollywood will never kill art and I would rather mop the floors at a peep show than give them my money for the repetitious superhero ordure they fill the theaters up with.

Poor Scorcese, he never actually said anything bad, yet he got all that backlash. He only said the MCU is something new. I think that's a compliment.

4:57

Hmmm good point about theaters showing older films. They totally should do that more. I know some do it, in some countries, nowhere near where I am tho.

@louiswright8282

Жыл бұрын

Imagine seeing Blade Runners final cut in cinema! That would be an experience beyond words!

The movies that will stand the pass of time are those portraying interesting characters and good story. CGI has to exist to contribute with the story or the characters, otherwise they will not be remembered.

@jorenpeters3375

4 жыл бұрын

@Lightsaber328 TheMan Wtf is wrong with you?

@henryfox6293

3 жыл бұрын

Godfather has zero CGI and will be remembered forever

@Bjork4s

3 жыл бұрын

@@henryfox6293 Same goes to Goodfellas, no CGI but it's a legit classic movie