To me the jubilee has always been the pinnacle of marshall tone. It’s gain channel is like a mildly boosted jcm800 (which is what most people would do back in the day anyway). And then the clean channel has that original JTM45 flavour. AND THEN, puling the “rhythm clip” knob on the clean channel gets you to that cranked plexi super lead roar! It was made to celebrate 25 years of marshall, gathering all of the famously awarded brown tones, but done right (simple loud analog tube amp). If that’s not versatility for a marshall, i don’t know what is...

@nomorebs

5 жыл бұрын

The jubelee is my dream amp!

@katherineseiss102

5 жыл бұрын

What is not captured in this video is how versatile the Silver Jubilee mini's EQ is! Very responsive...you could probably dial in the exact JCM 800 tone if that is what you want.

@AnAmericanGuitarist

5 жыл бұрын

I used to have 2 of the full size Jubilees when they first came out. I had them for a few years before switching to the JMP1 preamp & 9200 power amp which offered so much in sonic options and midi, but I loved the Jubilees. Tone for days. Because of the loop being right before the power stage, I was able to boost the power stage and tweak the sound with a rack mount graphic EQ. I really lover power tube gain. When I got that into a large room or studio, it just roared and I could just move my finger along the 6th string and play big, fat feedback melodies, but it was noisy when I stopped playing with the rig set up that way so I had to add a noise gate to cut the signal when I stopped playing. I think I had the gate after the EQ. I used to get a lot of compliments about my sound with that rig. Even the engineer in one studio got up from the board and walked over to the isolation booth to see what I was playing through. Marshall delivered big time with that amp.

@annanthony5754

5 жыл бұрын

But the JTM45 and cranked plexi SL amps have no diodes in the pre-amp stages. They are 100 present all tube signal path. So no way Ray do I agree. But the jubilee does sound good in its own little way.

@pedrovandrade

5 жыл бұрын

Ann anthony I’m sorry but i think that’s kind of irrelevant. Having diode clipping in a tube amp just means that it has a built in “boost pedal” specially tuned for that amp. As i said, most people already used jcm800s with some sort of boost. As for the jubilee, the diode clipping in the rythm clipp knob is just how marshall managed to add versatility with marshall tones in mind. It still has a pure all tube clipping if you don’t want that, but why not? ;)

the silver jubilee is simply a perfect sounding amp... It's my dream amp

Having owned both amps (50 and 100 watt versions) I always prefer the 800 for most applications, but the Jubilee shines with a strat. This video should have shown what a Jube or even JCM800 sounds like with a strat.

To me the jubilee sounded better.Both were good. Both have nostalgia for me. The 800 sounded like the old 800s. It was close for me.

A lot of awesome things I didn't know. Thanks Phil!

When I started playing in the 80s I always felt the Marshalls of the day were brash and too hard on the ears until...I saw a friend’s band play and he had a Jubilee!! I was in love from that moment on and I still feel that way.

Well done! Great job explaining the nuances. Keep up doing great videos like these.

I've been gigging with mini Jubes for the last two years, head through a nice 212 and solidly with the combo as well. I recently swapped the 25W Greenback in the combo for a 65W Creamback and O-M-G. Anyway, very impressed with the mini 800 but the Jubilee will always be tops in my book. Great review btw. :)

@benallmark9671

Жыл бұрын

Are they both so similar that it would be silly to have both or ?

@danyb8078

Жыл бұрын

@@benallmark9671 I no longer have that head but yes, some gigs would call for the head through a 212 or even a 412 but the combo is king! Still my work horse for 5+ years!

@benallmark9671

Жыл бұрын

@@danyb8078 glad to hear. Thanks for the response.

Man I love your reviews. Just plain honest and informative.

I had an 87 jubilee the 25/50 model. I’ll spend the rest of my life trying to replicate It’s original tone! Best amp I ever owned,,,hands down!

For those considering the two, the Silver Jubilee mini actually has a very responsive EQ. The slightest move of the knobs change the sound very noticeably. This gives you the ability to tweak the tone any way you want to. It also technically has 3 channels: Clean (very Fender like....no distorted tones like in this video - probably depends on your pickups IDK), Rythym Clip, and Lead. Agree that 20 watt mode sounds fuller...however, you can tweak the 5 watt mode with that responsive EQ though and it sounds fine. Great sounding amp!

@cmath8577

5 жыл бұрын

Had SJ MINI and this versatility is to a fault for playing live if you wanted to switch channels with it's shared EQ...Constant tweeking. Not a problem if you just use one setting .

@katherineseiss102

5 жыл бұрын

@@cmath8577 Good point.

@MP422ownz

4 жыл бұрын

Its incredible how responsive it is....

Hey man. It’s about time for another “Who makes what,” video. That was the first video of yours I saw and I’ve been following ever since.

Phil: WOW, these amps bring out even more greatness in you! Love it!!!

Excellant review. Direct mic to amp, no effects. Just the amp. Thanks

I own the Mini Jubilee... it’s a killer sounding amp...the EQ is very responsive and the tone that comes out of it depends on your settings. It is a different kind of Marshall in a very good way. One major difference between it and other classic Marshalls is that it uses diode clipping distortion . The diodes can be engaged by pulling the Input Gain knob . I do not engage the diodes. Some on other forums say that the diodes are always on until you get the lead master up past 5 . I don’t know if that is true or not. All I know is that if you take the time to experiment with the EQ this amp is a formidable weapon and worthy of the Marshall name. If you have a good cab with good speakers and a good guitar with decent pickups this amp sounds great. This amp is right up there with my ‘81 2204 and Friedman. Marshall got it right with this amp.

@guitarexpert2245

4 жыл бұрын

I just picked up the Silver Jubilee mini. I had an 82, 2204 sold it 2 years ago, (wish I never did) It was such a bright amp, that's why I loved it, had that ear piercing high mids. That's what cuts through a band mix. . Been playing the Jubilee, it doesn't sound as bright as my 2204, but it's hard to remember it was a while ago. I've played the Studio Classic at G.C, , doesn't have much gain but takes pedals amazingly and seems like it's as bright as my 2204 was. I'm seeing a lot of Studio Classic's on the used market after only being released less than a year ago. That tells me people don't dig them if they are selling them after a few months. There's like 5 of them on Reverb, a few on Ebay and about 4 on G.C used online. Anyway, the gain on the mini is great. The sustain is amzaing and cleans are incredible How do you think it cuts through a band mix? I also own a JCM 2000 that's just as bright as the 800 with a shitload more gain. This Jubilee is so different, than the 2000, much more like the 800 but a little different. and yes the EQ's are very sensitive. I'm glad you think it's right up there with your 2204, that makes me feel alot better.

@monstercadaver

4 жыл бұрын

@Fusion72 low input on 800 is almost squeaky clean.

Excellent vid! Still glad I went with the mini Silver Jubilee combo!! 🤘🏼

OMG how did I miss this! These are great! In your vids, you've been telling Marshall to make these for years! haha.

@monstercadaver

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Nielsen! I follow your channel, and I also think you should try these out 😊 Also help me spread the word that Marshall should make pedalboard friendly pre and poweramps.

Jubilee clean channel was flatter sounding, a platform which could give pedals more dynamic range. The 800 clean was maybe too full and low, fun modulation or dynamic fuzz and glitch pedals could likely make it “flub” out too much. Philip made it sound like the 800 eq section wasn’t that responsive. As a pedal platform I would suggest the Jubilee (probably more user friendly), but if all you’re going to do is the tube-screamer thing, then the 800 would be more than fine. Edit: I think the channel switching would be much more consistent on the jubilee. The volume differences on the 800 could be a deal breaker. Jubilee will cut through mixes more. That’s probably a downside for 800’s low end fullness, sure sounds great by itself, but the limited eq would lose frequencies in a live band situation (pedal eq’s could probably compensate though). If the 800 had more eq control and better volumes levels between clean and dirty, it would almost be the perfect 20watt amp for a rock traditionalist. I think the Jubilee has more bang for the buck for young beginners wanting a quality versatile amp and I have seen them used for around $800-$900, that’s $400 to $300 less!

Nice presentation. It contributed towards my decision to purchase the silver jubilee as I already own a 1983 JCM800 50 watt. They are both great amps but I prefer the silver jub for gigging.

Great review of both amps Phill, for me its the Jcm 800, i think it just as an all round better sound, for me any way, Thank You for Your Time in doing this for us, Cheers

Thanks Phil, for this great show down.

Very cool that you’re rocking the SG! Awesome guitar, and sounds great through either amp!

That logo was the first thing I noticed...it reminds me of the much cheaper dsl 20watt....I would have proffered the larger logo as well but that can always be changed. 2 years ago at Gearfest I asked Steve from Marshall about doing a mini 800 and he said they never would because the 800 doesn't have enough gain...I told him they were missing out on a goldmine. Glad to know they listened to me. 😃

Those amps sound great with the SG

@Reportageandart

5 жыл бұрын

indeed

I have always wanted the big powerful JCM 800 but you may have brought me over to practical. 20 watt tube power is more than enough and you can bring out to full sound in a cranked Marshall. Thanks Phil for all you do!

I was waiting for this one!

Great video! Thanks for taking time to make it! What Marshall doesn’t sound awesome! I liked both for different purposes. For what I would use it for, I would probably get more use out of the 800. I have 100 watt JVM - versatility is my cup of tea.

Without the tubescreamer, the Jubilee's distortion sounds better to me, but throw that boost in that whoa, that JCM800 sounds killer. I'm still torn between the two because the ability to use a footswitch to change to the Jubilee's cleanish channel is very tempting.

I liked the bite of the SJ better. The 800 just didn’t excite me. I’d be curious to hear the Plexi though.

@wesleyalan9179

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't it crazy how different people hear things differently, some people like on over the other, vise versa... Crazy,i like the 800 better, strange huh?

@DarkSim77

4 жыл бұрын

Liked the the 800 better..

Thanks PM, as always the comments are priceless and full of good info. Rock on brothers

I have to go JCM 800, ever since they made the announcement of this my mind has been coming up with a plan to get the cash for it.

@reneotten7376

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have it now?

Thanks for this Phil. I already have the Jubilee but was thinking of buying the jcm 800. In this demo though, the jubilee sounds better to my taste

Great video Phillip. I actually just got the JCM 800 Studio Classic. I always loved Marshall especially the JCM 800 but I never needed 100 watts worth. Then I got the mini Jubilee and it just didn't do it for me. I don't know why but it didn't. So I have been running the DSL which I love. Then this 800 came out so I grabbed the last one from where I buy my gear. Gonna spend the rest of the weekend messing with it. Again...great video....so far the best one on the Tube about this 20 watt beast.

Both great heads. I own the Jubilee so no reason to swap it because it sounds close enough to the 800 and just adds some gain and a superb clean channel. Btw: If you roll down your guitar volume the clean channel is very clean and just amazing. Now i know i need the 20 Watt plexi in addition to the Jubilee. Should complement each other well :-) Thanx

@Reportageandart

5 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it lol :)

@benallmark9671

Жыл бұрын

Do you still feel the same in that you don’t need both the SJ and the 800 because they’re so similar or ?

@antonego8356

5 ай бұрын

Sv is so loud... Have one, but that's why I'm here

I own the SJ combo, and I can get it much cleaner than that. Did not think this was a fair review of the SJ. You told about the eq on the 800, but did not mention the eq on the SJ, which works very well! I’m not a big fan of the rhythm clip mode, but it’s there. For me the silver jubilee wins, because I think it’s very versatile.

@guitarexpert2245

3 жыл бұрын

Yea it's a really lam reviews. Read my comments at the top of the review. He has all the gains setup incorrectly.

I’m curious how the JCM800 20 watt compares to the cheaper $499 list DSL20H? I just bought a used one for $370 total, should be here in a few days. The DSL20H gets great reviews.

Silver Jubilee has great clean, crunch . Just hit it with a tube screamer for high gain.

Thank you. Its really great to hear an amp without makeup.

Thanks for the video man!

I hope you do a demo / review of the new Studio Vintage too - that looks incredible, although I’m not sure it could be used as a home amp without an Attenuator.

Thanks for the comparison! Both sound good and both sound different. I prefer the JCM 800's sound here for it's presence and found that the Silver Jubilee had a boxy sound at 20 watts on the distortion channel.

Hey Phil, as both amps have an effects loop and you like the sound in 20wq mode how about putting a volume box in the loop to see if that helps make volume more manageable? Great vid! :)

When you played them both at gain with no boost, I loved the Jubilee. That's the marshall sound I love. But, I have to admit that the tube screamer 800 was just awesome. I think I would go jubilee, but I wouldn't be sad with either of them.

Thanks for the comparison. Maybe it was different in the room, but from the recording I actually preferred the Silver Jubilee sound. You made a good point about how the JCM can get cleaner, and that is something to consider for the Jubilee if it still retains some crunch. If I played either one on their own with no comparison both sound great and like I'd expect from a Marshall. I'd really like to hear the plexi. After this comparison now I am curious about the older 1 watt again for home use, since I could turn one of those up and really get them cranking.

I really like the Jubilee- has that raw Marshall sound to my ears.

great review. thx phil!

This is a pretty decent review I own the Silver Jubilee 20 watt I’ve had it for about 10 months and I absolutely love it. The gain is killer it’s like a JCM800 on steroids or a modded JCM800 people call it. And on the clean channel if you Dime out both volumes and turn the gain up it actually has a plexi or maybe JTM45 vibe to it, not a ton of gain But really full sounding with a decent amount of gain. I have to disagree with you that it doesn’t sound good at lower volume I think it actually sounds really good In my opinion. And then I agree with you when you turn it on 20 W and crank it up it does sound super good.

Can not wait to hear the new plewi

JCM 800 gets my vote. Would like to see a review of the superlead vs JCM 800.

That crazy chrain cover was amazing Phil!

@peterschaefer1665

2 жыл бұрын

Yes except tempo my friend tempo!

A compelling comparison.. thank you, great playing and well dialed in amps.. some other reviewers could take notes!.. for me, i liked the low mids of the SJ

Great amps made pocket size! I have the 50/100watt silver jubilee paired with a 1960AV 4x12 and it’s awesome. However it is overkill really so this video is really informative for which mini Marshall I should invest in :) great video mate, cheers Ross.

Both sound great. Imagine hard pan left and right & layering a few recordings. Perfect 80s tone.

@phillipmcknight hey just curious how come you didn’t go with the SLP instead? Awesome vid as always man!!!

Pretty close; but, the 800 sounded just a little thinner, to me. I'd pick the SJ, if I was given a choice.

I prefer the Silver jub. have one and has ordered a "mini" Plexi

Phillip, tough question. I have always had Fender amps, and want to get my first Marshall higher gain amp in the 20 watt range. Would you go for a Marshall, Friedman JJ JR, or Mesa Boogie Mark V head if this was going to be your only Amp of it's type? Price isn't really an issue either way.

I preffer the 800. As a pedal platform it works great for me! Plus I love it's clean!

Nice video, Phill... Is it my impression or theJCM800 have a much more bight tone in 20W while in 5W Jubilee is a little brighter than JCM800?

Sj sounded better (fuller?) in these examples.

You bought both? Those are sweet, im still debating on which one to get

Jubilee FTW. Thank you for presenting this!

jubilee sounds more fuller all the way around. like a more complete jcm tone that the 800 lacks

I have a 1982 jcm 800 2204 that I have set up for kt88 and it's so loud it melt ur face off, I got rid of the PCb and handwired the hole thing, it screams, I voiced the low input to be more fenderish, but kept the hi channel original, the new one sound pretty close to it, mine has more grunge and grit, cuase 30 more watts, but 20 watts is loud enuff, I built a 5e3 clone with 14 watts it's loud enuff.

Great demo. I like the Marshall JCM 800 more because I prefer the “fuller” sound.

I'm on the JCM 800 train. I will always choose an amp that has a very clean tone and good distortion tones over an amp that can never be perfectly clean. The 800 just sounded better to my ears all the way around. But the fact that it does cleans quite well, definitely wins the day for me.

Have the Jubi and its great. Perfect for a modern guitarist that doesnt need 50 or 100 Watt.

Did you use a overdrive with the jcm? It’s very gainy, and I love it! But is it the amp or the pedal?

Hey Phill. Def the JCM 800. I wish you had the Plexi on hand. Would you choose the Friedman Pink Taco Head over any/all of these?

I think the smaller logo help the whole head look like what we're used to seeing a marshall head look like. Scale-wise. Like if you look at the size of a 50 pr 100 watt head and scale it down to the size this head, the logo would probably be about the same size, where as on the Silver head the logo is the same size as a standard logo, but because of the size of the head, the logo appears out-of-scale when compared to a scaled down 100 watt head. At least this is what makes sense to me.

I love my SJ Moni in 5 watt mode. I set the Mids to full, the bass to 3 o'clock, the Master output to 3 o'clock and everything else to noon.

Hey, Phill... Did you noticed that pop issue when turning on/off pedals in the loop? Did you try it yet?

*Awesome video Phillip*

Hey Phill how does this compare to the Friedman PT-20? Would you take a used PT over a new JCM?

Great observations Phil... I still like my MB JP-2C over the Marshall sound anyday...

Great review of both heads, It’s too close to call, I’ll just take both of them 😎

One of the reasons these are the size they are, and larger than the Friedman/Mesa/Peavey/etc. mini heads, is because they're running EL34s, not EL84s. Gotta put those bigger tubes somewhere! EDIT: On the subject of the 20 watt vs. 5 watt mode on the 800, what I found with mine (I ordered one as soon as they were announced pretty much, it's basically exactly what I've wanted Marshall to make for a looooong time) is that the 5 watt is a bit smoother; the 20 watt is a bit more aggressive and in-your-face. It's not miles apart, but it's definitely a bit different.

I’ve been hoping for a great 20W amp from Marshall for a while now. I preferred the JCM on this video. Thx Phil!

I liked the extra squawk that the jubilee had

Thanks for the detailed review, the silver jubilee sounds better to my ears, thanks again

I agree with that single channel thing you said at the end. I learned on a Peavey Vypyr that had a ton of different sounds on it. Different cleans and dirty channels, and a bunch of effects. But now, I just use single channel amps, with a simple volume control, and a tone, and that is more than enough for me. I don't even need pedals most of the time. Also, I am partial to the Silver Jubilee, but that is just because I've wanted one for such a long time. However, I think the 800 is closer to what I need.

WoW you nailed it with the scorpions tone!

I like the sound of the Silver Jubilee better, and I definitely like the larger nameplate on the Jubilee (its more proportionate)

@animatedarliss

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose the name plate would be easy enough to switch. I think you can buy the Marshall nameplates

I think I like the JCM800 a little more. Both sound great on distortion (with a small halo of fizz on the Jubilee). I think the 800 with the better clean would be more versatile with pedals added into the mix. I'd be happy to have either. Maybe Marshall has finally realized they are sitting on an important design history that could be products they can still sell today.

SJ all the way. Review does not do justice to it. You can have millions of tones by tuning the EQ of SJ.

I like the simplicity and tone of the jcm 800 also, gonna ck it out.,i love the sound of a pedalboard into a simple tube amp so much i made a sterio head out of 2 bassbreaker 007’s and run them thru jcm 900 4x12’s ,, killer tone, at reasonable volume.

Nice but I like the jvm. Is that 1watt worth the 800 bucks?

You set too high gain on the SJ on this test. The 800 will cut through a band as it should do and stay tight with volume.

Marshall and Gibson came back strong this year. Both doing what they do best.

Phil the ts9 is the best tube screamer to get for pushing the distortion?

I’ve got the 20 watt JCM800 and I love it. It made me buy yet another pedal board! I’ve got an A/B box and Ive been using it to go back and forth between this and a 2061 and that is very interesting.. I’ve got the studio 800 on an original 800 lead series cab and and the 2061 on a 900 cab so my guitarist guests can play also. They both sound different but great, recently we had a Preista-palooza in my basement....

Hey i saw your Friedman review also...If you could choose the Studio Jcm 800 or the Friedman Pink Taco which would you choose?They have neither locally so i cant test them. If it helps i play mostly 70s Hard Rock and 80s Metal, occasionally i play some 90's Black metal and Grunge. Im assuming id have to throw a pedal in front of the JCM 800 to get any gain sounds past 1984'ish. But id rather get the one that has better overall singing harmonics.

This might be an unpopular opinion, but they each sound great enough that I would go with whichever one was the better bargain. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I never had an amp head before just the hughes and kettner black spirit 200 but when i heard the jubilee i felt in love with how agressive it sound then henning pauly said that this was the amp that slash used for appetite for destruction, my favorite rock album ever! so everything make sense jaja thanks for the video

Nice video! Have you recently played a 100W JCM800 (2203)? I am wondering how close the tone of the SC20H is since i want to get the tones of the original but can't play a 100W amp in my house. I'm doing mostly hardcore punk, not metal. Thanks!

How is the build quality on these amp heads? Chassis mounted tubes vs direct to PCB? Do either of these sound anything like a 1974X?

Hi, love your video. Do you try the Origin 20 ? Thanks

Crue and Scorpions licks in a review of a JCM800? Totally appropriate. Love it!

Great stuff Phil! Definitely prefer the bigger logo like you. Just looks a bit nicer. I can see how the 800 would be slightly more flexible because it doesn’t have all the added gain and grit/fizz. I did feel like the Silver Jubilee reacted better to the TS9. Can’t explain it, just thought the amp and pedal worked well together. Maybe a fuller drive pedal would be better with the 800? Either way, great stuff.

@MrScrofulous

5 жыл бұрын

I have a MIni Jub COMbo, and I have brightness issues. I find the Nobels ODR-1 is a great overdrive to work with the Jubilee for home playing, as it has a fuller bass response. My old ears like that. The mini ODR-1 is such a cute little green bug of a pedal, no reaps not to own one.

@jimmorrison3042

5 жыл бұрын

That kinda money why should it even need a pedal to bump the front end?? OUCH!!

Thanks for the video Phil. I preferred the 800. Love to hear it against the plexi though.