Personally I didn't mind the fact that mk7s Wii retro tracks weren't much of an improvement because it was more the novelty of being able to play Wii tracks on a 3ds which made them feel more special for me

@lonkbonk5859

2 жыл бұрын

“If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”

@T_Bagz193

Жыл бұрын

@@lonkbonk5859 exactly.

@JLU61307

Жыл бұрын

@@lonkbonk5859 yep

@Deadchannel312

Жыл бұрын

indeed, the wii tracks didnt need many improvements, they were already fine. and they all look still great on 7

Yeah MKWii just nailed it with the Retro Tracks. Still my favourite selection in the series so far. Don't get me wrong, I love the reimaginings in MK8, but it was obvious that some games (MK64) were running out of tracks to use.

@Gooomsire

2 жыл бұрын

I like 7 the most. It has tracks like Mushroom Gorge, Waluigi Pinball and Daisy Cruiser.

@CoolJosh2002

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gooomsire 7 has a great selection too. Probably number 2 for me. Then 8, which feel more like Nitro tracks then Retros, and finally DS, which has the worst selection imo, but they were just starting the whole Retro thing.

@alpinecross4370

2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion 7's selection is on par (Shell Cup is noticeably better, imo Leaf Cup as well, but most of the debate boils down to preference, like for example, liking Airship Fortress or DK Mountain more). If they remade a harder Bowser's Castle instead of GBA BC1 it'd probably be undisputed.

@Gooomsire

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpinecross4370 Also GBA Bowser's Castle 1 was IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHELL CUP. Like seriously, just put it before Rainbow Road!

@alpinecross4370

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gooomsire nah it makes sense to be there, way too easy to be in any other cup Mushroom Gorge and Luigi's Mansion make that cup great though

Some of the "It's Worse, I don't like it" is very funny lol

I think 7 has the best selection of retro tracks, but 8's are better due to the reimaginings.

@Deadchannel312

Жыл бұрын

7 is better with the selection, but 8 did absolutely better with improving and upgrading the tracks

5:18 "The Snowmen are no long made of Nitro Glycerin, I don't like it" best take

Personally, I feel MK7 was where the retro tracks started to get good. Mario Kart DS and Wii changed almost nothing when adding the tracks (N64 Mario Raceway, GCN Luigi Circuit) so when 7 and 8 actually changed things like adding more elevation to the GBA tracks, and making them feel more modern, it can make people feel like they’re new tracks, which is what they should go for more often.

@thatsmallcessna8300

9 ай бұрын

I feel like they got better with each entry. DS had bad picks with some tracks being downgrades to their originals. Wii had every track be almost the same as its original, and it had some good pics. 7s tracks started to add new mechanics to the tracks plus having some phenomenal picks. 8s retros were incredible reimagined takes on the original tracks that make them feel like all new tracks. Retro tracks just continued to evolve with Nintendo getting better at them with each game.

*"It's better, I like it."*

@teebzbstd

2 жыл бұрын

“It’s worse, I don’t like it.”

@zarielcolon3126

2 жыл бұрын

"It's better, I don't like it."

@isaaksaucedoorendain8897

Жыл бұрын

SNES Donut Plains 3 MKSC “It’s worse, I like it.”

“It’s worse simply because it’s not better” made me laugh 😂 But great job on this. I can’t believe you payed attention to the little details. You put so much effort into this video and I really appreciate it.

Retro tracks have always been a curiosity to me and this video was an excellent breakdown of them! Great work!

Im surprised the n64 Yoshi Vally’s inability to keep track of placement not being carried over to MK8 wasn’t considered a blow to democracy

@CowFoodYum

3 жыл бұрын

Oh TRUE. No you're right it definitely is a blow to democracy, I just completely forgot that's how it worked on the 64.

also for banshee boardwalk, remember. they made those tracks brighter because the game was meant to be played on the original DS screen, which was much darker than the lite and 3DS

I feel like you should've went with the "it's worse" option for DS Airship Fortress in MK7, as beyond a glider ramp you mentioned no further improvements, and that justification was also used to give the 3DS's Wii tracks a "it's worse" rating. Edit: Same goes for 3DS Music Park in MK8.

@CowFoodYum

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but both DS Airship Fortress and 3DS Music Park look so much better than their original Nitro Track, which is enough to make them better.

@knowbody6327

Жыл бұрын

@@CowFoodYum Also the bullet bills in the beginning were replaced with Banzai bills

@godofthecripples1237

Жыл бұрын

Those ones have graphical improvements. The Wii tracks on 3DS do not.

3:07 the bumps from Ghost Valley are present in Boo Lake and Broken Pier, and the blocks in Vanilla Lake are functionally identical to the walls of Boo Lake, Broken Pier, and Ghost Valley.

I really enjoy the visual and aesthetic upgrade to most of the retro tracks but I really wish they would have left in more of the alternate paths/ability to explore like 14:30 & 19:22

"as can be seen by the inclusion of retro tracks first seen in Mario kart ds" Mario kart Super circuit: "Am I a joke to you?"

This guys gonna hate his life when he has to review 69 more tracks

@PipesTheVlob

2 жыл бұрын

96

You seem to be a fan of the retro tracks being nearly identical to the nitro ones besides looking better and maybe a glider/water/anti gravity section added here and there. So why do you specifically dislike it so much when 7 does this to Wii courses, but like it in literally all other cases? Am I missing something?

Awesome video! Thanks!!

“It’s worse because it’s simply not better - CowFoodYum 2021

3:05 SNES Rainbow Road thwomps are actually invincible thwomps. The difference with regular thwomps is that wheb you collide with them instead of simply bumping or being stuck you act like if a racer with a star hit you.

Actually Mario Kart 7 removed that one strange shortcut bounce mushroom to the left at the very start, so it is a downgrade And completely neutrally, there’s 3 mushrooms on the right path into the cave instead of 2

the best retro tracks for me in 7 and 8 are when they use the mechanics of those games, 7 being the flying and underwater and 8 being 0 gravity

0:06 I'm so glad to hear that Mario Kart 8 sold more than Mario Kart Wii. Mario Kart 8 wasn't as underrated as I thought it was!

@Deadchannel312

Жыл бұрын

im surprised MK7 is the best selling 3DS Game i legit thought Super Mario 3D Land would have been number 1

@Martin-yo4ms

Жыл бұрын

That's not really the case, Mario Kart Wii actually sold 37.32 million copies, the number shown in the video is wrong (it was probably an editing error because it has the same number of copies as Super Circuit)

can’t wait for pt 2 of this series with the new (and upcoming) dlc tracks in mk8 deluxe!

This channel is going to be big... like big big. Im proud to be the first 1K to be subbed to you. See you in 1mil in a year or two!

@ajmullaaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

Still getting there, but, I believe you. See ya there guys! I can call myself an OG I guess.

You forgot about Mario Kart Tour's versions of the retro tracks.

@gameplayboy5686

Жыл бұрын

Bro did watch to the end?

Hell yea nice video keep at it

Amazing video!!!!

Well, I guess we'll be waiting for at least 2023 for maybe a follow-up once all the Booster Course Pack Tracks are released in MK8 to lump it together in MKT.

This guy when home console graphics look better than handheld: 🤯🤯🤯

Great idea for a video

I feel like I just subbed to a channel thats on the verge of getting a big break Keep at it man, there's good stuff here, I hope you can achieve your dreams while not feeling confined

the difference between thwomps and star thwomps as shown in the super circuit section is that star thwomps spin you out if you bump into them, while still retaining the ability to crush you i think

0:43 I think you can Scratch that on the Mario party series when they made Mario Party superstar saga! We all know about that!

GCN tracks in DS and Wii tracks in 3DS are like demake

Good vid! I personally thought that the MK8 retro tracks butchered the nostalgia of some of the soundtracks. SNES Rainbow Road’s music is still good, but doesn’t hit like it did in MK7. Same with Toad’s Turnpike. And I think that N64 Rainbow Road just was kinda butchered in some ways.

I dunno why, but I was hoping to see at least one "It's worse, I like it".

I'm really glad MK8 is still getting love

Does anyone else miss the thing in N64 yoshi valley where everyone on the map was a question mark and you couldnt tell who was in first?

mk8 snes raibow road is also larger than it was in order to host 12 players making it far easier

as a super circuit superfan, i have to disagree on cheese land and ribbon road. the appeal to me was always that the tracks were difficult, with constant steering inputs needed to stay on the road in cheese land, and the manner of needing to hit nearly every boost panel on the lap in ribbon road to stay with the pack. idk. i dont really play with items on and more do it only for the racing quality of tracks so i probably have a different view than the wide majority of people. I will say that i LOVED the recreations of Snow Land and Boo Lake in the booster course pass, as those really felt like loving tributes, while Sky Garden looks like shit with the new layout.

You just need to insert Mario Kart Tour’s nitro tracks to compare with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe retro tracks.

GCN in DS look like a demake Wii in 3DS also look like a demake

When can we expect Mario Party 8?

They forgot the monster tree sound when you get out of the mansion from the track: Luigi's Mansion in Mario Kart Tour.

Are you at one point going to do the Tour retro tracks and the Booster Course Pass?

I Love Playing Mari Kart! 👍🏻

also for mushroom gorge you forgot that they removed a shortcut due to a bug that you could perform on mario kart wii

"Top 100 doesn't count."

Omg how do you unlock those tracks in the DS!!! I never knew those existed lmaooooo Also, *koopa zappers*

0:32 I think you mean super Circuit

@njyawndra8609

2 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't.

@superpig2067

2 жыл бұрын

@@njyawndra8609 have you play super circuit because that’s where the retro tracks first started because enough can play all of the first Mario kart there for super circuit did it first

just to correct the statistics at 0:08, mariokart wii actually sold 37.38 million copies and was the 2nd best selling game on the wii (topped by wii sports)

If I had a dollar for each time he said it's better I like it I would be rich

That super circuit remix of rainbox road tho 💀

Mario Circuit 3 also has the dash panel and oils in the SNES version, I dont know why they arent there for you, maybe its in time trial or so? And Mario Circuit 2, the oil is in the SNES version as well.

for the missing wiggler bus, let ma say that you can race a wiggler on this track (mission mode only)

Man I never played MK Wii 😭 I gotta play it. Getting myself a Wii ASAP

Actually, Cheese Land Has 3 Glider Ramps.

the selection of retro tracks in MK7 is probably my favourite in the series but I kinda wish they held back on some of the retro tracks for base MK8 instead of choosing the four best tracks from Wii. The 3DS' limitations led to them all feeling like watered down versions and I don't understand why they keep replacing the bridge with a glider ramp in Maple Treeway, the bridge was so much more interesting.

Yo how about doing a comparison with SM64 levels regarding its DS remake?

19:48 ds mario stadium

@CowFoodYum

2 жыл бұрын

You're so true

@presidentevil9951

2 жыл бұрын

@@CowFoodYum hey can you do one for crash team racing nitro fueled?

6:25-6:40 that aged well

So you like yoshi falls and desert hills but not the wii tracks on mk7?

@eduardoxenofonte4004

Жыл бұрын

this is the retros compared to the nitros, not the retros compared to each other

Well, the Mario Party thing just happened.

0:45 Superstars: Hi

Man I really forgot how much Mario Kart DS murdered its GCN tracks.

Its a mystery how they fumbled the gcn retros so much in ds. Ive seen custom retro gc tracks as mods for mk ds that actually do stay true and run native on ds

6:36 Well... there's still the Wiggler _Boss_ on DS.

I just wish they would find a really good way to remake SNES and GBA tracks really well. Also, Wario Stadium,Wario Colosseum, Rainbow Road DS & Wii, and so many more courses need to be remade too.

did you change the title of this video with "Booster Course Pass" since that wasnt announced in 2021 yet

I feel like 7's Kalimari Desert is worse because unlike the N64 version, the train is smaller and doesn't make you stop very often so the train is pretty much just decoration in a normal race now which is a shame because it was hilarious seeing all the other racers stop or crash into the train.

i like the misspell on wario stadium in mario kart 8 from wario stadium to ds mario stadium

I can’t wait to hear what you think about coconut mall on the switch cuz 😬 it’s worse I don’t like it.

GBA Mario circuit is also flipped horizontally in MK8

I think the wiis trick system made all the retro tracks (especially waluigi stadium) better

But @CowFoodYum dino dino jungle looks worse Because It Removed the crystals in the cave And removed a pink dinosaur

did you know the the laugh of the twomp is a slowed and lower pitch of wario's laugh in mario kart 64

They bring the Wiggler Bus back to Mario Kart Tour

how do they leave toads turnpike on Mario kart 8?

it’s better. i like it.

Technically, Mario kart 8 deluxe's nitro tracks are retro tracks because they were first featured on Mario kart 8 regular and not on the switch edition. The only not retro tracks are the two fzeros, animal crossing, Hyrule circuit, super bell subway, wild woods, dragon driftway, sky high sundae, excitebike arena, and ice ice outpost. Don't tell me they're dlc. They're brand new tracks for eight deluxe.

@Larry98

Жыл бұрын

Lol 8 Deluxe is just a port of the 8. So how can they be a retro track? Also Sky High Sundae is a tour track.

the name of the green twomp is Marty

I agree completely 13:11

Get ready for the timestamps FIXED VERSION 0:00 Intro 👍 1:19 Mario Kart Super Circuit (If you don't know, the game is for the GBA) 3:49 Mario Kart DS (Of course it's for the DS, why do you type this? moron) 7:50 Mario Kart Wii (Wii, again why do you type this) 11:49 Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 16:32 Mario Kart 8 & 8DX (WiiU & Switch) 24:47 Outro 👍 Tracks: 3:53 SNES Mario Circuit 1 4:17 N64 Moo Moo Farm 4:30 GBA Peach Circuit 4:38 GCN Luigi Circuit 4:48 SNES Donut Plains 1 5:10 N64 Frappe Snowland 5:25 GBA Bowser Castle 2 5:38 GCN Baby Park (DS) 5:49 SNES Koopa Beach 2 5:56 N64 Choco Mountain (DS) 6:02 GBA Luigi Circuit (2 Luigi Circuits in one game is crazy weird) 6:22 GCN Mushroom Bridge 6:40 SNES Choco Island 2 6:46 N64 Banshee Boardwalk 7:11 GBA Sky Garden (DS) 7:20 GCN Yoshi Circuit (DS) 7:55 GCN Peach Beach 8:06 DS Yoshi Falls 8:12 SNES Ghost Valley 2 8:22 N64 Mario Raceway 8:40 N64 Sherbet Land 8:50 GBA Shy Guy Beach 8:58 DS Delfino Square 9:08 GCN Waluigi Stadium (Wii) 9:32 DS Desert Hills 9:43 GBA Bowser Castle 3 10:01 N64 DK's Jungle Parkway 10:18 GCN Mario Circuit 10:28 SNES Mario Circuit 3 (Wii) 10:35 DS Peach Gardens (Wii) 10:48 GCN DK Mountain 11:03 N64 Bowser's Castle 12:09 N64 Luigi Raceway 12:17 GBA Bowser Castle 1 (Nintendo the only one missing is Bowser Castle 4) 12:39 Wii Mushroom Gorge (3DS) 13:13 DS Luigi's Mansion 13:26 N64 Koopa Troopa Beach (Not Koopa Beach Mario Kart 7) 13:45 SNES Mario Circuit 2 13:54 Wii Coconut Mall (YOU JUST GOT 🥥 MALL'D) (3DS) 14:09 DS Waluigi Pinball (3DS) 14:21 N64 Kalimari Desert (3DS) 14:39 DS DK Pass 14:53 GCN Daisy Cruiser (3DS) 15:15 Wii Maple Treeway (3DS) 15:31 Wii Koopa Cape (3DS) 15:45 GCN Dino Dino Junge 15:53 DS Airship Fortress 15:59 SNES Rainbow Road (7) 16:41 Wii Moo Moo Meadows 16:51 GBA Mario Circuit 17:09 DS Cheep Cheep Beach 17:30 N64 Toad's Turnpike 18:22 GCN Dry Dry Desert (The track that made me lose a "tournament") 18:59 SNES Donut Plains 3 19:12 N64 Royal Raceway 19:35 3DS DK Jungle 19:42 DS Wario Stadium 19:55 GCN Sherbet Land 20:07 3DS Music Park 20:15 N64 Yoshi Valley 20:30 DS Tick-Tock Clock 20:49 3DS Piranha Plant Slide 21:00 Wii Grumble Volcano 21:08 N64 Rainbow Road 22:07 GCN Yoshi Circuit (8 & 8DX) 22:32 GCN Baby Park (8 & 8DX) 23:04 GBA Cheese Land 23:38 Wii Wario's Gold Mine 23:52 SNES Rainbow Road (8 & 8DX) 24:10 3DS Neo Bowser City 24:30 GBA Ribbon Road DONE

The next mario kart game should add mushroom ridge

Wait how did you know there was gonna be a booster course pass in 2021?

@PenguinGuy-iq4ze

Жыл бұрын

He maybe change the title

@CowFoodYum

Жыл бұрын

My dad works at Nintendo

@PenguinGuy-iq4ze

Жыл бұрын

@@CowFoodYum Cap 🧢

@IcedCube0310

Жыл бұрын

@@CowFoodYum ohhhhhhh sowy

Just because something doesn’t add anything doesn’t mean that it’s worse than the original

Dude is disliking every single mk8d track like one lil flaw and he dosent like

What about mario kart tour?

20:57 why does everyone call it zero-gravity, like theres still gravity just a different direction

@eduardoxenofonte4004

Жыл бұрын

technically there's no gravity

@hey_hey4394

Жыл бұрын

@@eduardoxenofonte4004 yes there is or else you would be floating around

@eduardoxenofonte4004

Жыл бұрын

@@hey_hey4394 well, your kart theoretically sticks to the road, and isn't pulled by gravity

Wario Stadium and Tick Tock clock have no charm in MK8 compared to MKDS, but I really love N64 Rainbow Road, GBA Ribbon Road, 3DS Neo Bowser City and GCN Yoshi Circuit. Only speaking about mk8

@biivamunner3122

7 ай бұрын

Hard to disagree about Tick Tock Clock. The original (which is still great btw) feels like a bootleg compared to the remake now

Wait a minute, are you a time traveler?

Do you know why Nintendo shortened N64 Rainbow Road?

mario kart 8 battle sets adds coconut mall remove the glidramp is removed and cars dont move

I’m sorry but I love ❤️ dry dry dessert and I find that the retro is better but the original had mor charm with Petey piranha and such

About mario party...

Honestly, I think all of the Wii tracks in MK7 are actively worse because of the forced-feeling addition of glider ramps and underwater sections. It takes some very creative parts of the originals, like the pipe in Koopa Cape and the net on Maple Treeway, and makes them feel a lot more generic imo.

Mario Kart 7 tracks in Wii tracks but worse but he dosen't like it *Add more Decoration or even better graphics lol* Also Tour retro tracks are better 14:39 should add Kalimari Desert 2 lol

On mk8 Rainbow road n64 it looks great but your not on the course for long, vvish it had 2 laps.

but still you were better off playing the original tracks in Super Circuit, like Shy Guy Beach, infact, don't include retro tracks until Mario Kart DS, but the architecture for the DS should have been half a Gamecube or quarter of a Gamecube, just like how the Wii was 2 Gamecubes in one