Technically NEMO is just the left barrel of AMOS. It gives more than half the fire power of AMOS but being lighter turret, it can be fittet in lighter vehicles. AMOS was a co-operation between Patria and Hägglunds, NEMO is just Patria.

@pukinsarvi.studio

Жыл бұрын

Juuri kirjoittelin saman seltyksen :D

@-NEH-

Жыл бұрын

The 6x6 was in this video to demonstrate just that. Amos can be fitted on the 8x8 only, or some other similar heavier platform.

@wanhapatu

Жыл бұрын

@@-NEH- AMOS has been installed on PASI. It is possible they decided it was not a good combination though.

@helzagore9658

Жыл бұрын

​@@wanhapatu Its more propable they go with the Nemo than Amos for the new "Pasi 6x6". It feels like Nemos can be stuck onto just about everything.. they have been (i guess succesfully) tested on Jurmo class landing craft and on cargo containers as base perimeter defence, effectively turning any train or truck which can carry a standard cargo container into an artillery platform.

@SonsOfLorgar

Жыл бұрын

I hope the Swedish army orders a bunch of NEMO systems for the combat boat 90H to support the marine infantry.

The NEMO turret is remote controlled not the entire vehicle. The older AMOS system had a four man crew: A commander and a gunner in the turret and a driver and one loader inside the carrier vehicle. It also has a number of ready to fire rounds in an autoloader in the turret bustle. The NEMO system has a three man crew: A commander/gunner, a driver and a loader, all in the carrier vehicle. Besides this, the AMOS turret weight was 3600 Kg with steel armor for ground applications or 2500 Kg with aluminum armor for installation in boats. The unmanned NEMO turret weights 1700-1900 Kg. The mortar barrel length, in both the AMOS and NEMO, is 3 meters long or 25 calibers. The maximum range is 10 Km with standard rounds or 13 Km with RAP. The range with the STRIX guided mortar round is 4.5 Km to 7.5 Km (ER) and both systems have a direct fire capability of 1500 meters. The AMOS has a maximum rate of fire of 16 RPM (two barrels) while NEMO has a maximum rate of fire of 10 RPM (single barrel). Both systems have MRSI capability with 10 rounds for AMOS and 5 rounds for NEMO. The deployment plan is for one AMOS or two NEMO vehicles per company. Both AMOS and NEMO can be installed on different carrier vehicles, but the NEMO being much lighter, can be installed on lighter vehicles and is proposed to the US for use on the STRYKER.

@unreal4127

Жыл бұрын

How many rounds can it carry?

@FLORATOSOTHON

Жыл бұрын

@@unreal4127 This depends on the carrier vehicle, but Patria mentions 50 to 60 mortar rounds as a typical load.

@Armann_

Жыл бұрын

@@FLORATOSOTHON This is enlightening information and thanks to a commenter that referred me to your post. That’s incredibly sophisticated technology. Thanks for the insight how this monster works.

@VhenRaTheRaptor

Жыл бұрын

They've also come up with a NEMO module for the Boxer if I recall.

@FLORATOSOTHON

Жыл бұрын

@@VhenRaTheRaptor Both the AMOS and the NEMO are basically turret systems that can be installed in a variety of carrier vehicles, along with their ammunition storage accessories. The prototype AMOS system was shown on stretched M113s. The NEMO has a containerized version in addition to the ability of being installed on various carrier vehicles. IMAO the NEMO represents the future of mortars and it should really become the "NOKIA" of mortar systems.

The best thing about Nemo is that it's available in a standard 20 foot container. Lift that on a truck and you have converted the truck into a weapon!

@Sumpula

Жыл бұрын

Texans already seeking to order these to their lifted trucks.

@unreal4127

Жыл бұрын

80mm version for pickup trucks could be sweet.

Just the turret is RC, not the vehicle

@Armann_

Жыл бұрын

Rc? Remote controlled? The way the cannon pinpoints and swivels is like instantaneous. That’s lethal AF.

@jpenna1976

Жыл бұрын

@@Armann_ I suppose level of automation makes it "remote controlled". It can receive fire mission via communication network and automatically calculate firing solutions instantly even on move. If someone has more exact better knowledge, I'm happy to learn more.

@3M46DN1M

Жыл бұрын

Yes, remote controlled. See FLORATOSOTHON comment.

The reason Nemo is arguably better than Amos is price and weight. Sure the Amos is fancy and powerful, but the Nemo isn't that much less powerful and crucially it's only 1700 kilos and significantly cheaper. So you can install it on a way more modest vehicle, and get more units for the same amount of funds. Actually the scenario is exactly the same with the really fancy and capable AMV 8x8 and more modest and much cheaper Patria 6x6. The range of the mortar varies indeed by round/ charge, but it's 10+ km and precision rounds are available. The Nemo container version is pretty sweet (you can have it in your base, truck, ship), as is the fast boat mount. I wish and believe Finland and quite possibly others will procure Nemos, due to recent events.

@FaceFish9

Жыл бұрын

well Nemo has half the firepower but like you said, you can install it in much smaller/cheaper vehicles

@jipasd

Жыл бұрын

Dunno why, but this reminds me of something I heard on Satunnaista sotahistoriaa-channel "The Soviet army used to mount these on anything larger than a row boat. " that was about depth charge throwers, and you probably won't me mounting mortars on everything moving on-land, but it's never bad when you have the possibility to do so.

@VhenRaTheRaptor

Жыл бұрын

Brits are looking at a Nemo module on their Boxer vehicles if I recall.

@tintin_999

Ай бұрын

Could you make these turrets out of carbon fiber to reduce the weight? Could you make the barrel steel lined and carbon fiber re-enforced like some fancy hunting rifles?

6x6 is actually the newer vehicle of the two, like a modern PASI. Vehicles are manned and the drone is not a part of the system. US is looking for a new mortar system, NEMO being one of the systems considered. ;)

Nice to see that "Panssarivaunukomppania" sign on a wall. I was serving there.

@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy

Жыл бұрын

Shortest Finnish word

My dad, was a Marine Mortar battery member....seeing this, fire on the move, with accuracy, would have amazed the sh*t out of him.

Nemo is not replacing Amos. It is ligter version that can be added to lighter vehicles like attack boats or there is even container version of Nemo where it can be carried by almost any truck. So container can turn any truck to mobile mortar platform or it can drop it as defensive stationary base defence. So it is more versatile than Amos

Patria Nemo Container, 120mm mortar system watch next

Yes it is for all 5 rounds to hit at the same time. By shooting the rounds in different arks so they have different travel time you can accomplish this.

You can put NEMO in a remote controlled container, or a boat etc.

@mhh7544

Жыл бұрын

@@EdKemperISTHEBACK Indeed😅

@juhakallunen7737

4 ай бұрын

How about Toyota Hilux?

@mhh7544

4 ай бұрын

@@juhakallunen7737 Kai Hiluxiin voi sovittaa mitä vaan :D

Well, MRSI means 1 tube hitting multiple rounds (virtually) simultaniously. TOT on the other hand means multiple tubes hitting same target area at same timeframe. Meaning, on that Nemo video you see 2 Nemos pumping ten 120mm mortar shells on target within seconds. That is going to create quite severe code brown situation on target. 😅

Thank you for these videos. Hope we'll see you here in Finland again. All the best. 💪❤

"Imagine getting direct hit by that." I guess there is not much left imagining, being splattered all over.😁

Great video! I've been there 20 years ago at summer. Beautiful place and a cool once-in-a-lifetime experience.

Far as I know, the turret is unmanned but the vehicle has a crew of driver + 3 guys...the automation at kzread.info/dash/bejne/i55omLhxoJbVeps.html refers to operation of the mortar itself, it gets target data digitally and starts loading and firing. I'd guess the crew can take over the control of the mortar for manual firing if needed, and certainly for the direct fire.

Luckily we are on the same side.

Very interesting and informative bro…Thanks for sharing! I’d not previously heard of this before. 👍🏼😎💪🏼

Was waiting for this react video. 😊 👍

And these are great against heavy armor too, thick armor won't stop a massive shockwave from a direct 120mm mortar hit to the roof the hull. Like you could legit disable an MBT by just shooting above the hull roof, so the front of the turret with this. It will tear the roof open and disable the tank.

@erikreuterskiold5996

9 ай бұрын

Also: using strix terminal guidance mortar rounds this can be done effortlessly: fire the mortar towards a tank formation and the mortar shell will guide itself towards a tank using IR-camera (which discards any tanks on fire). This means you cannot jam a strix shell with gps jamming as the final guidance is done optically. Neato...

Only the turrets here are RC, but Patria has built a working prototype of RC 8x8 so we'll most propably see that at some point too.

@tsuhna1167

11 ай бұрын

@@geopolitiikkajasota4404 Of course not, that was one of the main objectives of the whole program. Quote from Patria's webpage: "Patria NEMO is a turreted, remote-controlled 120 mm mortar system". AMOS is practically just NEMO on steroids.

I like the application NEMO has that it can be installed in/on a shipping container. Load some of those on trucks or in a battery on like a ship or train, and you have a lot of firepower available in a remote controlled gun.

@croci81

Жыл бұрын

Would be a nice defense for merchant ships against pirates :D.. no need to recruit a 10-20 soldier elite unit to get your ship covered.

@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556

Жыл бұрын

@@croci81 Somalian Pirates would get destroyed :DDD

Nice video. Nemo container video would have been a great addition.

fak yeah, i've been waiting some finnish content :D Thanks! Finland knows their indirect firepower needs.

@Tipi83

Жыл бұрын

Itekin oottelin jo tätä videoo. Heitin idean ja tän klipin joku about kk sitten et jos kiinnostas tehdä react video tästä aiheesta. 😊

US Army Heavy Mortar Platoons =6 gun tracks (two 3 gun sections) plus two FDC tracks, and wheels (used to be Humvees) for PL and PSG.

At first glance these vehicles seem really appropriate for the USMCs Force Design 2030 doctrinal shift. Fast, versatile, light on fuel requirements and can be mounted on land and sea vehicles, and therfore presumably on amphibious vehicles as well. I hope these turrets can be mounted on the next generation of US 6x6 and 8x8 vehicles.

If this is the new Mortar standard... holy smokes...

Nice shirt mate!

Only the turret is rc, not the vehicle.

4:27 the NEMO turrets are remote-controlled.

ok i'm sold! As long as they are mechanically reliable...... I want 2000 of them.

5:07 Shoot and scoot is exactly what they say it is in the video.

Mortars and artillery are traditionally formed in two gun platoons, 6 or 8 to a battery (company).

Hi Marine! Nice to see your interest on Finland still going strong:)... And also that you keep on tracking these resent NATO expansion events in this somewhat dire European situation!

The shirt IS cool. From Kurtzgesagt? Edit: Amazing video. Those are insane. All the best from 🇳🇴

Yes it can do simultaneous hits alone timeontarget method

It looks very futuristic and that fire on the move is amazing .it wouldn't take much to make one of these fully remote then it would be the ultimate weapon

@-NEH-

Жыл бұрын

You can have it in 20 foot standard container. Fully remote. Lift that on any platform you want.

I'm proud our defence force! And company Patria is famous about their produkts this new vehicle is wow! Two of this kind in infantry units or Scout unit gives enough fire power!

The tank is the drone

It was gonna be used with the CV90 as well. Somehow it did not happen. But I think it can be fitted with Amos. Now it is fitted with Thor

Whatever you do, don't be a target. These will indeed cripple if not totally destroy enemy platoon. Well, considering who's the reason we stay prepared and their latest performances, they might lose a company or two...

It is totally their own product, AMOS was collaboration with the Swedish Hagglund

@akuankka321876

Жыл бұрын

No. Sweden abadoned the AMOS project. AMOS is completely a Finnish design, not Swedish. In one point tho, swedes were interested in participating to this project, but because of cost reasons, they withdraw from it. TBH it is still possible that the swedish participation in the project still lives on the NEMO naval version...

@pukinsarvi.studio

Жыл бұрын

@@akuankka321876 OK, nice to know. I think AMOS is far superior cause its autoloader NEMO got a manual loader. There is also this fire rate thing with AMOS, it can launch 4 rounds of a rapid burst. Yes, there is a good thing in the manual loader that can put variant mortar grenades but in battle tank style AMOS are superior in the attack.

I think there is a grew in the vehicles, but the fire control is remote. Remote OPS is actually firing their guns.

The Arthur system are working in the same way, all granets landning in same time ,

Good to have Finland in NATO.

One NEMO equals roughly one gun battery. The turret I guess is RC

I highly doubt this will replace the AMOS, it's far more likely to serve in lighter PATRIA mounted infantry brigades while AMOS serves the tracked IFV brigades in the same roles.

I don't know about Patria but a couple of months ago I saw it fly high up inte the sky. Its was almost amusing. Kornet?

Scary stuff..

This would be nice for the Stryker for replacing both the MGS and MC varients, being able to preform both roles with little disadvantages.

AMOS is a proper artillery unit which can achieve much higher rate of fire. NEMO is designed as a lighter remote control unit you can possibly put on the transport vehicles of troops to give close fire support. Remote controlled in case of turrets is that the operator is in the case the co-driver and the turret itself is automated.

Eeeh, I would not like to face any 120mm mortar fire let alone an APC with capability of whacking my platoon with 6x 120mm HE impacting same time.

Damn this was like 10km away from my home :D

Now they just need to find Doris

@MS-Fin1917

Жыл бұрын

Well, on this episode they are dedicated on finding Ivans.

That’s so cool

For some reason I was under impression that NEMO was canned.

3 man system max 10 rounds per minute norm 7 rounds per minute ImpactRange: 6 - 10km / 3.7 - 6.2miles Ready to Fire in 30 sec 10 sec to change position

Pretty good info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_NEMO

It's a counter-counter-artillery

I think they're closer to a mortar than a rocket / missile platform. So not as effective, but at least provide good mobility and versatility as well

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

it is a mortar yes

Those things are op

This is basically the StuG of the 21st century. An assault gun and fire support platform. Mount it on a light armored platform like CV90, MPF or AMV, and you've got a very flexible platform that can do indirect fire missions, support infantry with direct fire, and even defend against IFVs or other such light armor. A BMP-2 taking a 120mm direct fire grenade to the face is going to have a bad day.

@alvar7344

Жыл бұрын

You can destroy modern tanks with that system too on direct hit. Not just bmps

The tec. Is old amscor tec that was developed for the G6 howitzer system for SAW ould South Africa defense force! The platform is a SA copy indirectly!

@duhni4551

9 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with it though 😂

Hi, long time follower, great channel! Keep up the good work! Regardless my accolades speaking on "mortars". Check out the Swedish: 'Mjölner', (Tors hammer) Rapid Fire 120mm Mortar Vehicle.

@Leopardipzg

Жыл бұрын

Mjölner is the poor mans, more primitive version of AMOS.

Patria nemo is nice system , check Polish RAK system , SMK 120 Rak bad ass :)

The Finnish video are excellent have you seen the special forces with horses in full camo eye protection gas mask with their riders class.

Can the lame CV90 Mjölner system shoot on the move or do the multiple drops at the same time and so on? If that's done automatically by choosing the right ammunition and angles then I guess the first may be somewhat of an issue with the Mjölner if the handling there is manual? I don't know how much more AMOS cost but it seem way cooler if it's handled automatically and just deliver the same results + if Mjölner can't really keep up with firing on the move and such. Maybe that capability is still "pretty effective" or whatever but less cool indeed. Also say what's the cost of having two barrels vs just one? Like if one vehicle could drop away more mortars at once alone. Mjölner looks so low tech even though it have decent firing rate. Ah sorry supposedly this was NEMO not AMOS. Is this just a one barrel AMOS or something new better?

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

AMOS is the old one with the 2 barrels. I'm not quite sure why they went for just one barrel but I believe it was because it's cheaper and doesn't really lose capability. Cost was probably the biggest reason as to why

There range up to 6miles scary stuff.

On the move artillery support. Being infantry is becoming a worse and worse idea.

"What can I kill next?" 😆

Armor, especially lightly armored vehicles are NOTHING without supporting infantry...

Loaded with self guided grenades like strix it's pretty much a perfect tank killer. The speed, the range, the mobility and ability to shoot to pretty far while being on the move without a line sight that thing is some serious shit. Ukraine should have had these when the russians tried their stupid long motor march in the beginning of the war.

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this was ready back then, it's still in testing

Go look for FPS Russia video about weapons on drones and realize some KZreadr did this themselves ten years ago, and then realize what the military might have!

Suomalainen korpisotilas!

shoot n scoot lol. I love my country :D

@edheldude

Жыл бұрын

Nut and bolt. Ejaculate and evacuate.

I want a reaction video on 'URI the surgical strike' movie😸 it has english subtitles btw i hope to see it soon an also u can react on 'MAJOR' another action movie from🇮🇳❤️

Theo. You need to check this out 18,000,000. Views. 6 June 1944 The light of dawn. This is 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

Greetings from Helsinki, Finland. I really hope Finland send some Patria Nemo to Ukraine. Not Leopards...

@TheNismo777

Жыл бұрын

Can't send that kinda tech without risking own safety, Leos are totally fine.

@ACorpseWithoutSoul

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNismo777 We have only 200 Leopards so we can't send Leopards. We have 800 miles border with Russia...

@TheNismo777

Жыл бұрын

@@ACorpseWithoutSoul we sure can send 10

@pacifist9805

Жыл бұрын

Russian army is out of order at least a decade. Plenty of time to make more modern stuff. US could deliver Abrams here and in any Nato country that stutters excuses.

@pacifist9805

Жыл бұрын

@@junka22 I feel that Ukrainians don't care how mature system it is. Kind of embarrasing to hear excuses from fellow Finns.

Its accurate, very accurate. Only thing I miss in this unit is more firepower, 120mm doesnt seem enough for my taste :D

@unreal4127

Жыл бұрын

5 rounds at the same time precisely in a small area is enough firepower. Lots of shrapnel in the air as you can see in the video.

@TheNismo777

Жыл бұрын

@@unreal4127 I know, but I would prefer even more power

@unreal4127

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNismo777 Then you should use 2 Nemos simultaneously wiping out the field of russian mobiks. It's enough for the purpose it was designed. Machine gun using 20mm ammo would be better for infantry but not practical.

@solarissv777

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNismo777 160mm? When you actually need to remove a building in one go.

@UltraCasualPenguin

Жыл бұрын

There is AMOS with two 120mm cannons but it's not very good combination with lighter vehicles. AMOS: 8x8 only NEMO: 6x6, 8x8 and container

Bro... give that shit to UKR, they will battle-test the fk out of it.

Idk how useful is that. 10km is the max range but if I had to choose what kind of weaponry I get for my imaginary military these would not be on the top of that list

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

mortars are important for frontline infantry but the problem is their slow mobility. This was made to fix the problem

It would be cool if the USA bought a license to this system and started manufacturing them for themselves. I don't know if that American project has moved anywhere. Maybe it already concluded, and they went with something else.

The need to align the turret with the entire vehicle to load sort of gives it all away.

@RR-us2kp

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't need to do that. There are videos of it loading from the inside

@andhikanazrilshidiq8062

Жыл бұрын

@@RR-us2kp It does. This is due to the fact that the feeding mechanism rotates with the turret, whereas the loader stays put.

@RR-us2kp

Жыл бұрын

@@andhikanazrilshidiq8062 ok. Still better than all other manual mortar systems

Their container system needs to be deployed to Ukraine so bad. Seriously. Strap a few of those on a train and distribute them across the country for defense.

The vehicles are controlled by advanced AI with a human watching remotely and able to take over if need be. Yes a AI is doing this.

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

there is a crew driving it inside my man.

Send to Ukraine 🇺🇲💪🇺🇦

Finnish should give those to ukraine…

@Balnazzardi

Жыл бұрын

Eventually perhaps. I mean we must first and foremost take care about our own defense and thats why Finland has been very hesitant to give any Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine either. After all we are at the front line of NATO countries bordering Russia, so it really should be the countries "behind our backs" so to speak who should do more. Ofc as years go by, I hope Finland can aid Ukraine building such an army that Ruskies wont ever even try invading again.

5:44 actually as infantry you are fucked by job description. war has changed so much in the last 20 years. i personally would hate today's battlefields as an infantrist. i mean, it was always fucked up. but nowadays you just don't know when and where some friggin drone just drops a load on you. the artillery got way more frightening. not talking air forces... i am happy not to fight nowadays! i wish all the best to the ukrainian soldiers and people! stay strong. keep fighting. if only i was a few years younger...

I was playing csgo yesterday and there was two Russian asking what we think about ukraine and that after ukraine they will come to finland next and that finland was a part of russia. Is that what the Z putin propanga is in Russia? All hope lost for Russian people. I asked them did they go to the army and they shut up. I said we know what to do and what our job is. You are welcome.

@KasperiVonSchrowe

Жыл бұрын

Yes we have a warm welcome for them. Maybe even hot. I did my conscription in 1992 but I have recently attended reservist courses practicing my shooting skills again. computer gaming Russian teenagers are most welcome to play in real.

@SonsOfLorgar

Жыл бұрын

@@KasperiVonSchrowe and you won't get to have all the fun for yourselves this time either 😉🇸🇪🤝🇫🇮🤘

@KasperiVonSchrowe

Жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar thank you sir! Sweden, our dear brother in arms!

@3M46DN1M

Жыл бұрын

This was funny. Russians are funny people. After Ukraine Russia is next North-Korea... isolated from other world. Or splitted to tens of countries/states.

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if they come we won't shake their hand but we will give them led for free.

The real question is how many of these are being delivered to Ukraine?

@japekki666

Жыл бұрын

None. Because those are for our own security. Newest stuff never leaves to anywhere. Those are only for us only we have to have things that others don't 😎

Lohtaja in September looking like a pleasant beach? Obviously the video is fake AF!

@efz629

Жыл бұрын

Believe or not, it was filmed in September 2022.

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

If you are going to claim that something is fake then you need to also provide evidence

CGI Tank .... nice ...

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

I've seen them with my eyes. They are as real as it can get.

Looks CGI at times, particularly the shoot on the move, which takes away from the video. You can do better Patria. If I wanted Call of Duty, I'd load it.

@Mscmann

Жыл бұрын

how is it their problem if they simply film a video and some viewers "think" it's CGI

@projecttitanium-slowishdriver

Жыл бұрын

Lol, those are real. Finland is very good at designing armoured vehicles and mortar/artillery systems You will find more videos from Nemo

@JohnTavastian

Жыл бұрын

The Finns don't fake videos.

🙋🇫🇮⚔️💖