I was just over 4 years into my dispatching career when I took that call. It was around 11:30am, and I was just getting ready to take my lunch break when the phone rang. I was primary call taker that day, so my break would have to wait. What I had recorded into our CAD(computer aided dispatch) system was surreal. I couldnt tell if this was a legitimate call or not. I had never spoke to her before, so I did not know at all who she was. But, as we are trained, we take calls serious enough about the subject matter to get help dispatched, then follow up with scripted questions. I was being coached as my supervisor, the patrol supervisor and other staff members surrounded me listening, directing cars and making calls to other personnel. It was hectic, and I still wasnt sure of what kind of call I was taking. I read the transcript and, now, as a retired dispatcher, I can see where the general population would say "they had no clue what to say" or "Ok is not a word to use in this situation". You have to keep in mind that in the back ground, I had several people talking to me, telling me to ask this question, or that question. It was not just me alone in the com center during that call. My daughter was just 3 years old at that time, so once I realized that this was in fact real, she came to mind, and my heart broke. I attended the wakes, and stood outside at the funeral, respecting the wishes of the family only service. I paid my silent respect to the children. I dont care who was to blame, all I cared about were those 3 little angels and that they were no longer a presence in the family. The next 2 and a half years was hell for me. Getting briefed to testify, then only to have it cancelled. My emotional state was wearing down. I just wanted to be done with this. I was reminded every day of what happened. Finally, the day came where I was up on the stand. I was asked a few questions confirming who I was, what we were listening to and if I took that call. She sat across from me with her head down. She couldnt look at me. I wanted to make eye contact with her just so I could "get it off my chest" but say it thru my stare. In the end, justice prevailed. It doesnt matter what I would've wanted the outcome to be. It doesnt matter anymore. It will always be in my heart, and I will wear this to my grave. Thank you for reviewing this

@FacesoftheForgotten

Жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing all of this Dave. You were there. You saw them. I imagine that image, that experience, couldn't ever totally go away. God bless you and hope time can heal some.

@MonicaLitman

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing. Having been a paramedic, we and the dispatchers see and hear the worst of the worst. ❤️

@katherinebordenhowell4400

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing. I am sure this was the most memorable event of your career. Tradjec, she meant to hurt her husband but hurt so many people, everyone in EMS, the school, neighbors, parishioners, family and friends. You kept her talking on the phone which was good. If there had been any chance they were alive it bought time. Keeping her talking allowed police to question her without her killing herself so its clear what happened. It haunts me. I hope you fully heal from this. God bless the children.

My daughter suffered from postpartum depression after the birth of her first child. It was very real and very frightening. We had her and her husband and my granddaughter move in with us for about a year so we could be there for her and help take care of her and the baby. She made it, and is a tremendous mother to 3 children now.

I love how Ron took the time to look up little Adam (and others throughout his videos)! 💐

@alankiekover4265

2 жыл бұрын

I agree I enjoy Him He is interesting.

I love little Adam's stone, it's so unique with Adam's stick figure drawing. RIP to the Lemak children, I'm sure when God saw your beautiful little faces, he hugged you and had a loving place for you to be happy and know that you are loved.

When innocent children have to pay the consequences to adult problems. Stories like Marilyn’s, makes me so mad! 😤

@NUKESFORLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

Take make me bored

@MsFunnybags

2 жыл бұрын

Some folks have mental issues that impair their thought processes.

@hopestoner2718

2 жыл бұрын

I lived it went to school with the boy saw the mom days before ! Will never forget this

@vickierinehart4434

2 жыл бұрын

It's too bad him being a doctor and it seem to be well known about her depression he couldn't have had the kids taken away from her

@alankiekover4265

2 жыл бұрын

I agree so sad!!

Craig Michael Garber who's grave was shaped like a drum was in a band called "Monster Trux". He was their drummer. He was also a member of the Carpenters union Local# 1889.

That little guy Adam would be 18 this year. 18! Didn't get a chance at life. RIP Adam

@buttercupj6208

3 жыл бұрын

This is so heartbreaking RIP 🙏 Adam

@garycorbin2789

3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to make Adam's killer exhibit remorse .....

@jax2670

3 жыл бұрын

Can u do shanann watts please

@armageddon1981

2 жыл бұрын

It is, my niece and nephew was born 8 days after him on the same year. Both were born the same day...just my nephew in North Carolina and my niece here in Chicago. The fact that nothing was done to the person responsible pisses me off...i hope nothing but bad karma for Joseph!!!

That man who took that little boy's life out of carelessness should have gone to jail for many, many, years!

Three beautiful children. What a horrible thing to happen. At least they are together in eternity.😪😔

I blame the father also. He was thinking of one thing and one thing only, what he wanted!! He knew she was sick but did nothing to protect the children.

@stevewilliams8590

Жыл бұрын

The father is only to blame for being a horrible husband. I don’t know how you honestly can imply he knew she would kill the kids and still let her do it. What about the neighbor who offered to take the kids and didn’t , is she at fault as well? To put the blame anywhere besides the mother makes you an awful person.

@leeannbailey91

Жыл бұрын

I agree....if he knew his wife was depressed he should have paid better attention and take his children away from her until she was better....so sad😢

@jamesperretta

2 ай бұрын

He was too busy taking a deep dive into that dumpster he called a girlfriend. How disgusting.

That dog monument was amazing!

@pegs1659

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder why his back feet weren't on the ground or was that an optical illusion?

@lanaj1107

3 жыл бұрын

@@pegs1659 it sort of like he's running and his back legs haven't come down yet?

@babygirlzmommy

3 жыл бұрын

@@pegs1659 I noticed that too. I think its supposed to look like he's Running and Playing.

@Indy__isnt_it

2 жыл бұрын

@@pegs1659 illusion of jumping? That was my impression. It would be a very cool head stone. I'm looking into the cemetery forest that's selling starting next year. Cool idea to buy your own tree and be buried under it. Once buried you won't see a typical headstone, this way I'll know what my resting place will be! Something new, several in the US.

@hanthouse

2 жыл бұрын

need to know about dog and squirrel

It is tragic that those poor children were killed by their mother, but the father should be implicated as well for neglect. What a horrible man!

@bxb590

7 ай бұрын

I bet the family court had issued a no contact order for the father. Sally, pull your head out of your azz.

I hope when her time comes she is not buried next to the children. Let them Rest In Peace

OH....I LOVE THE GRAVESTONE WITH THE DOG...

@carolineswitzenberg3307

2 жыл бұрын

What was the gravestone with the dog about?

One person's description of a deep depression: I had a feeling I was falling down a pit into hell, my stomach always in knots, always nauseous, couldn't think rationally, and didn't know how to ask for help.

I remember this vividly. My husband has a niece who was born the day before this happened (March 3, 1999). Every year in march I think about those 3 children. So sad. I wish someone would write a book about this case.

This looks like the kind of cemetery I’d love to spend hours in. What a horribly sad story. Those poor wee bairns. She must have been suffering dreadfully with post natal depression after the birth of her kids. Post natal depression is a dreadful illness. If it turns into post natal psychosis it can have very tragic consequences. It’s possible that she suffered PND from the birth of the first child and it went untreated to only worsen with each subsequent birth. If anyone is unfamiliar with PND please take some time to read about it.

@jeffwarren6906

3 жыл бұрын

I have witnessed PND first hand Bobbi , and it may be , this woman indeed suffered from its effects . Although , the bit of research I viewed mentioned ; that many women strickened do not go on to have another child , and rarely a third . Whether or not , this is absolutely correct ? , i can't say '' ,, what is curious however , is her PND comes to a climax the exact same time that her husband leaves her for another woman .. Strange , there is no record { that we've been told of } of any intervention after the 1st , 2nd , or 3rd child by the husband { who is a Dr afterall } or family ,,, other than the friend who offered to babysit , in order to give Marilyn a bit of a break , and that was shortly before the murders happened .. Whatever the actually reasoning of the cause was , it resulted in 3 murdered children ,, a sad , and awful fact .. Have a wonderful day Bobbi and stay safe ....

@kellymcfadden7514

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@bobbibuttons8730

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffwarren6906 thank you Jeff. Sometimes I like to play Devil’s advocate. I should have added that I know nothing about the story or the tragic circumstances. The loss of 3 Wee bairns is a complete tragedy no matter what the reason. Innocent wee lives that never had the chance to live is a complete travesty. What I was actually trying to do was bring to the fore of what a dreadful thing PND is and sadly it’s one of these hidden illnesses that needs to be brought into public consciousness. My best friend was a solicitor, a very clever astute woman who’s knowledge of the law was encyclopaedic. All she ever wanted was to be a mum. Sadly she developed PND after her first bairn and needed hospitalised. She went on to have a second wee one and knew the statistics however she started developing it pre delivery and sadly within a few days of her son being born she developed full blown puerperal psychosis. That was 12 years ago, her wee boy has no real idea of who his mum is as she has been in hospital most of the time. She was asked one day that she was having a reasonably lucid day, was it worth it to loose your sanity

@jeffwarren6906

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbibuttons8730 -- I think it is good that you did play Devils Advocate ,, in that both or rather all sides of an issue should be brought out and looked at & discussed ,,, how else will we really learn all that we can , I was sorry to hear of your friends own tragic ordeal , God bless all affected by PND and may they receive the help needed . Hope to chat again Bobbi , as I enjoy friendly debate and effective reasoning on all matters ,,, God bless you as well ..

@cynthiahusband106

3 жыл бұрын

It was “the perfect storm” with her husbands on going affair, postpartum depression , she wanted to torture her husband, like she was being tortured , so the best revenge “ take away his children” may she die in prison for taking these precious little lives who were all so innocent and had their young lives cut so short , RIP thank you for the video, can tell your very sensitive , and aware of the pain this horrific tragedy brought to this family ; uncles , aunts , cousins, grandparents reminds me of the Chris Watts case in Colorado where he killed his wife and 2baby girls to be with his girlfriend , what a troubled world we live in , and like you said the one son of the Lemak family who wanted to be a policeman , the lives he was going to save, marry, have children of his own one day-all 3 Lemak children are now living in paradise forever lasting with the Lord God bless you for sharing , reminds the rest of the world how truly precious life is now during the pandemic , more than ever.

Two opposite ends of the scale .One mother who obviously adored her son and lost him through someone's selfish behaviour. Then a mum who took her children's life to spite her husband. R.I.P to Adam and the three children.

I loved the tomb with the happy dog statue. I’d like to think that the model was a beloved family pet and that they wished to immortalize him/her and keep close to them forever.

@denisehubbard6891

2 жыл бұрын

Me too.

@susanross1651

Жыл бұрын

Yes I’d love to know the story behind it.

@nastybigJim

Жыл бұрын

@@susanross1651 I looked him up Craig B Allen, owned a business The DogPatch in Naperville, Illinois. Over the next 38 years, Craig pioneered many practices and philosophies in petcare. Through his endless dedication and love of animals, Craig set the gold standard nationally for the entire pet industry. i'm guessing that's the reason for the dog.

I am a mum myself. I have ABSOLUTELY NO PITY for mothers who kill their children. There is NO excuse at all

@TheKim369

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think anything excuses it, but there are explanations, and we need to look for and try to understand explanations, if we want to reduce these kinds of horrible situations. Do you want to make things better for children, or punish mentally ill mothers? What would give you the most pleasure?

@cuntdork

3 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. NO excuse, no sympathy.

@marynamurray9385

3 жыл бұрын

I have no pity for anyone who kill, including father's.

@pinklady7184

3 жыл бұрын

KimPansey she was a *COLD-HEARTED, SELFISH* mother who did not love her kids enough to let them live.

@pinklady7184

3 жыл бұрын

JS I agree. No excuse, no pity. Mother is an *ADULT* with a degree in nursing. She is not a mentally ill child.

What a heartbreaking story! Children should never pay for their parents' mistakes. RIP little angels!

@louisegladwin-troy1254

2 жыл бұрын

Poor woman was very unwell and not in any fit mental state...its a shocker she seems to have fell through net😓😓😓

@bxb590

7 ай бұрын

What a heartbreaking story! Children should never pay for their -parents'- mother's and family court's mistakes. RIP little angels!

Many women have suffered with post partum depression and have not killed their children. What she did was horrific and incomprehensible. To even begin to give any of the blame to her husband or to post partum is wrong. It is heart breaking to think of these precious babies used in such a way to bring about revenge. That being said, I am fascinated by the stories on your channel. Thanks for the research, the time and the content.

@spiralrose

6 ай бұрын

Do not bring up, postpartum depression minimizes it though. None of us know her or what her mental state was before she got pregnant, and whether or not she experienced, postpartum psychosis

@aprilforrett7081

Ай бұрын

I never would hurt my babies I only wanted to hurt myself my mom helped me with the babies so I could have me time

I’m from Naperville & recently just moved back to the downtown area. I remember hearing about this. So sad. May the Lemak children R.I.P

I go to school at NCC and was employed in the school’s catering services my Freshman year. I was able to cater an event in this house (we call it the Smith house) and it was incredibly eerie. Its a beautiful home, but for sure has an ominous presence about it.

@caitlyn8931

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, while you were in the house did you notice a triple oval mirror? It looked like it was in the dining room, it was ornate and very large. I’m just curious if it is still there or has been sold since the murder. Thanks

@SouthernCoastal

2 жыл бұрын

NCC….ex is a 1999 masters grad. He grew up in Naperville.

After all that happened the Dr. Still married the mistress? All three adults are sick, poor innocent babies rest in peace

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

agree.

@theresaterry164

2 жыл бұрын

He married the mistress because who else would want him, poor babies!

@allisonlew4508

2 жыл бұрын

The Dad definitely played a part in what happened.

@allisonlew4508

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelaclements1244 The wife was unstable. He left the kids with her. He also has some responsibility for what happened AND he was a physician who could have gotten help for her.

@Goldarr1900

2 ай бұрын

There is no excuse for murder.

A woman who needed help what a horrible act of revenge

@finchfrance

2 жыл бұрын

@@lyricberlin No justification for depriving someone else of life. Let's hope she rots in prison.

Sorry Littles Angels, Rest In Peace 💔❤️💔❤️🙌💐😢😭

The tragedy of life is how unpredictable and short it can be. One remembers one's parents maybe not as perfect, but luckily as the umbrella sheltering us from the cruelty of the world before we're strong enough to withstand the rain on our own. As it is meant to be. Not like this. _May God bring them all comfort in the afterworld._

Ron, Thank you for taking us through this beautiful place. And thank you for sharing this sad story. Yes, depression is real. Part of me is angry that the father was not paying attention to his family, and part of me wishes that the mother had reached out for and accepted help. All of me aches for the children. Such a sad story. Stay safe. Nonie

@annabelleb.8096

Жыл бұрын

I remember when this happened. The first thing my father said was where was the father and why did he leave the children with her. He said there had to be signs of mental illness along the way. And finding out now that he was also a doctor I think my dad was right.

I love watching all of your videos and I love the fact that you give respect to the Forgotten ones you are truly are a blessing Thank you🌼.

@suebarker9360

3 жыл бұрын

Marilyn Limac

@ashleyyago3798

2 жыл бұрын

Tamara Odom-- Right?? I Agree. This guy, that is Narrating this Video, gives a "Voice", a Name, and a Face, to the Forgotten.. I Love that. So Many Headstones, that have NOT Had any Visitors, OR Flowers, for a Very Long time!😢😢😢🙏🙏

Those poor children didn't deserve that that's so sad!!

This reminds me of the Andrea Yates murders. She drowned all her kids had bad postpartum depression. She was very smart, a nurse also had everything to live for and just lost it. It was sad case in Clear Lake Texas when I lived in Texas. I think she was convicted but later retried and committed to a facility for the insane or mentally incompetent. So sad all the loss of these innocent young children.

@Kenna198

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that, she had a bad case of post partum depression & the husband was warned by the doctors it was very dangerous but he didn’t listen, never got her any help, I think religious fanaticism played a role as well if I remember correctly, very tragic case

@Fran-tl6bx

2 жыл бұрын

I just listened to the podcast about her.

@kerryz966

2 жыл бұрын

Poor Andrea Yates had a far worse husband than Marilyn Lemak and Andrea was clearly insane. I don’t condone her actions but I sympathize for her

@amandapanda7878

2 жыл бұрын

@@kerryz966 poor andrea? no poor kids who never got to live life

@lylebobroske5172

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I remember. I sympathize with women who are sick. And especially for the children in both cases. Karen from Canada

I am from Chicago and I remember this unfortunate tragedy.. I was 18 at the time and it broke my heart. . RIP little ones❤️

I have been INVOLVED in some of the biggest cases of parents killing their kids. Filicide. As the mother of a murdered child with the other parent involved in the murder. For the living parent is the worst. You know what its like for someone actions takes your child.

@joansmith1195

3 жыл бұрын

Rosemarie, I amtruly sorry for your loss.

@agbobier2657

2 жыл бұрын

Omg how horrible for you! I'm so sorry.

This story broke my heart. Can't even stop the tears. Thank you for remembering this little angels. I will pray for their family and friends.

hmm docs wife has post partum depression and he does what about it? I give her no slack on what she did, but I don't give him any either. Sad thing is the neighbor was the only one paying attention and was helpless in helping. Poor babies

@jmariew9966

2 жыл бұрын

Mental illness robs a person of normal thoughts. She needed someone to step in and take control and not even her husband the doctor did, he is just as guilty as her.

My ex-husband did the same thing but never never thought of harming my child. My child made me stronger and now we are winning. RIP Angels❤

@maric820

3 жыл бұрын

Your ex is a damn fool, you arr beautiful + a great mom! His loss!

@lisasmith742

3 жыл бұрын

@@maric820 😘😘😘😘😘Aww thank you sweetheart. I truly appreciate it🥰

@takeittodehart1507

3 жыл бұрын

Lisa your absolutely right ,when I was depressed my children kept me going .they were my life . God Bless you and your family.

@yvonnejohnson772

3 жыл бұрын

same here my son's are grown up I brought them up on my own I don't regret for one minute get rid off my ext best thing I ever did it never crossed my mind to harm my kids your a strong mum stay save

@lisasmith742

3 жыл бұрын

@@takeittodehart1507You are awesome. Keep strong and may GOD continue to bless you too Hun.

I’ve only been to one mason funeral. My grandfather was a mason for a long time. He had a mason funeral and it was not your average funeral. Nothing against masons at all it just wasn’t at all what I expected. My heart goes out to the Miller family. Even though the man that caused the accident got no kind of consequential judgement he will have to live with that child’s death for the rest of his life. My conscience would eat me alive. I could not live with it. So many sad sad stories today. 😞

@conservativehippie9736

3 жыл бұрын

Satanist has you reach higher levels...why my Dad never returned after a few yrs...he learned more and more. Since his death I've researched...FINALLY the truth is coming out about free masons....NOT good!

@glendaroberts5965

3 жыл бұрын

@@conservativehippie9736 frankly I don’t care. None of the rest of my family is in it. If people want to be a mason it’s their choice because they will stand in front of their maker one day and atone for their sins. It’s not for me to judge anybody.

@rapman5363

3 жыл бұрын

@@glendaroberts5965 well said. Too many judgemental people who have just as many sins in their own lives just to judge others.

@allisonlew4508

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't remorseful.

@aridyaacob3172

2 жыл бұрын

@@glendaroberts5965 it’s not about being judgmental, it’s about helping them by guiding them so that they’re on the right path in life. You might be doing a huge favour.

I'll never understand, I wanted children so badly but I didn't get married and now it's too late for me. How could someone so blessed murder their own babies 😠☹️

@melissafaye915

3 жыл бұрын

I can't have kids due to health issues, so I completely understand where you're coming from. I used to pray for my own, hearing stories of "parents" taking their children's lives always confused and angered me. How could you throw away the unconditional love a child could give to their mother or father? Mothers are God in the eye's of a child.

@thesweetestteas.4534

3 жыл бұрын

@@melissafaye915 Ikr it's just heartbreaking when parents don't appreciate the ability to give birth to a blessing 💔

@pinklady7184

3 жыл бұрын

She obviously didn't love them enough to let them live. Poor kids. The mother must have been a very selfish, difficult and dysfunctional person. It is no wonder why husband wanted a divorce, as she must have been overbearing and intolerable.

@philthyweiner4688

3 жыл бұрын

Evil wears every possible face.

@Fran-tl6bx

2 жыл бұрын

We had 3. Hildren boys 4 years apart, then woops a daughter 11 months later. Daughter left a great family for a cult right after high school we have no clue where she is, who she’s with, it’s been 18 years. We hope she is well and happy.

I remember this morning like it was yesterday. I was a student at North Central college and we had to leave that morning for a track meet. My dorm was eye shot of the home. As I leave I notice police everywhere and a helicopter, which was all unusual for that area. I get to the team bus and one of our student trainers was crying and she told us what happened and that these were kids she babysat . I worked at the walgreens in downtown Naperville and remembered seeing them often with their mom. I especially remembered the older boy.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

wow, you were close to this sad case!

She blamed the husband for their deaths. Reminds me of an abuser who hits you then says, "Look what you made me do!"

@Indy__isnt_it

2 жыл бұрын

I think they husband should have been somewhat aware her mental state had likely changed from the time they said I DO. Walking away, only thinking of his alternate life, he SHOULD have been aware of her mental state as well as she was, THEY WERE BOTH RESPONSIBLE!

@Indy__isnt_it

2 жыл бұрын

@@susanbissell6319 💙💚💛

@aridyaacob3172

2 жыл бұрын

@@susanbissell6319 and sometimes some men don’t even care about the children. Free of childcare and alimony payments.

I am a mother of two grown daughters. After the birth of my second daughter I had a mental breakdown. I believe it was post partum depression. I spent six months in a hospital under treatment. I found out I was manic depressive, now it's called bipolar disorder. My two daughters are also bipolar, they got it from me. I did the right thing by letting be adopted. My youngest daughter was never adopted and was in foster care for eighteen years. That broke my heart. But three ago they both found. I always knew they would. I. Happy to say they are both back in my life and I also have two grandsons. I'm very happy

@kerstinkoch6175

3 жыл бұрын

You did the best for your daughter's. God bless you. Very happy to read you in contact with them. Greetings from Germany. ☺️

@agbobier2657

2 жыл бұрын

You did the right thing to help your daughters. Very unselfish .

@64jobeth

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing that

@rayah2782

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomstulc9143 I believe women should have prospective men do the same!

@alyngrace123

Жыл бұрын

So happy for you and your daughters, God bless you all.

I, will never understand how a mother could do this to her children ! She is where she belongs, never to walk the streets again ! My heart goes out to the family !

Horrible, it is unimaginable that someone could kill their own children.

It's a terrible tragedy. Not only was the woman dealing with postpartum depression but her husband's infidelity. That was too much and she snapped. The husband wasn't concerned about his family at all, just his wants. Not seeking help for his wife and not caring for his children. So sad.

@alyngrace123

Жыл бұрын

Yes, he could be a Narcissist.

These stories are just heart wrenching.. Rest in Peace sweet babies. : (

I adore my children with all my heart. I just don't and will never understand how a mother can kill her children. My heart goes out to the children's father.

@Cardenas50zz58

2 жыл бұрын

PPD can definitely do that to your mind. It's real and shouldn't ever be taken lightly. It's like a demon that takes over your mind.

I lived for 40 years in Naperville and this was the most horrifying day. It was so sad and my church, Sts. Peter and Paul Catholic Church was where the service took place and my friend in the choir had to sing at the service. It was so very hard and so sad my heart was breaking.

So sad, poor little Adam, no remorse from his killer, and yep I do say killer. Marilyn needed help, the husband David didn't help the situation. He just rubbed her face in it with the affair. I'm not condoning what she did. Such a tragic ending of young lives.

what a sad story.they are with the angels now.may they rest in peace.

Love your channel. So wonderful to see someone that cares so much about people who have passed away . Bless you.

Really. I've been so depressed but I highly doubt I would kill my own little children because of it. No I think she did it on purpose to get back at her husband plus she killed the 2 dogs too!!!! Evil Woman!!!

@debbiebutler3815

3 жыл бұрын

😢😢😢😢😢

@madambutterfly7513

3 жыл бұрын

It's horrible enough she killed her own kids, but the dogs too??? Evil had no boundaries!!!! RIp little ones

@gwenwalker147

2 жыл бұрын

We hear these stories and immediately say the perpetrators are evil, but in fact, were ALL evil! Who knows what one would do in someone else's shoes? We're not even aware of the evil we're truly capable of. I've heard others say they wouldn't have done that, however, circumstances can push you beyond your very sanity! But for the grace of God, it could have been any of us!

@jerseystotler3615

2 жыл бұрын

@@gwenwalker147 I guess it depends on what kind of person you are in your soul!! To me that was pure evil!! So NO there are some things a person just KNOWS they would never do. Plus I am a Christian!!!! And have good moral values including the abiding belief in Thou Shalt Not Kill!!!!!

@gwenwalker147

2 жыл бұрын

Jersey Stotler I'm a Christian as well but our nature is wicked and we fight against it daily. We never know what we'll do in any given situation unless God is truly in control of our lives. Your representation of your moral values mean nothing because you haven't been in a position to see if you would react in a different way. It's best if we depend on God to keep us from succumbing to our wicked nature than to trust our moral compass.

I love your channel! I see in the comments you sometimes get criticized for going off topic.😝That’s what makes you great! I feel like I’m at the cemetery with you.I love the stories and the beautiful headstones!! RIP

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, thank you. Those people need to go watch a crime channel. There’s plenty of them here on KZread. We’re on an adventure in a cemetery, telling a story on the way! It was always my intent that I was walking along with a friend casually, I’m so glad to hear it’s coming out that way!! Ty.

I had postpartum depression & it was awful..but..I didnt want to kill my son, I couldnt bear to leave him everyday when I had to work..I would leave work early & show up late..Very grateful for GOD carrying me thru it all..my son is now 24 & Im 44 & still obsessed with my baby❤

@FacesoftheForgotten

2 жыл бұрын

Some people have said that was an excuse for murder, I’m glad you have contributed your thoughts. No excuse for murdering your kids. No matter how horrible your husband is. No matter what depression you have, seek help.

@Goldarr1900

2 ай бұрын

My mother suffered from depression all of her life.She would throw herself in fire to save us. I agree. There is no excuse for murder, especially of your kids.

What a horrific, tragic story of Marilyn. I never heard of this case before, those poor children.

I remember this case. Growing up in Plainfield it felt so close to home. It was so sad. Those poor babies. The depression could had been due to post-partum depression. It's real. Had it with my 2nd daughter.

Craig Garber great musician have a friend in Chicago that teaches music at Columbia University that use to jam with him and his band.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

interesting, thank you Tom!!

@haltestelle793

3 жыл бұрын

May he RIP.

@tcwhite0104

3 жыл бұрын

@@FacesoftheForgotten you’re very welcome

@deirdrerosesharples7453

3 жыл бұрын

Very sad story, beautiful children, all because of hatred

Lee Pavlicek was an anesthesiologist at Edward Hospital. I worked in same day surgery and remember him. Smart, kind. He died from brain cancer.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

thanks Kathy. I was curious, now I know. R.I.P. Lee.

@spiralrose

6 ай бұрын

Poetic.

How heartbreaking! What beautiful children.

Hi Ron, this story breaks my heart, those beautiful innocent little children cut down in the time of their life when they should be their happiest, going about things that children do. Why is it that people like her get to have children and then they totally destroy the beauty that was created ?? it really saddens me that their are so many amazing, caring, loving men and women out there that through no fault of their own for one reason or another cannot bear children and then there is Marilyn Lemak.😭😭. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 🙏💖

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

yep, this was a bad one. glad you tuned in, great thoughts Sue.

@SueGirling68

3 жыл бұрын

@@FacesoftheForgotten Thanks Ron, take care. x

Im sorry but no matter how sick or depressed I would be I could not take my babies lives.

@pegs1659

3 жыл бұрын

When someone is in a depressed state as intense as she was that person does not think rationally.

@cuntdork

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I've struggled through horrible depression and it was hard to pull through, and I thought of taking my own life but I never considered harming my children. Sure, my situation isn't indicative of everyone's but it is still just not something that should be forgiven. It saddens me to see so many people trying to excuse it in many cases, including this one. This woman was a SPITEFUL, EVIL COWARD plain and simple and deserves no sympathy or excuses.

@rosemaryangela1825

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@ms.c6821

2 жыл бұрын

Either she was just mad or had a psychotic break.

To these 3 beautiful children...flight of Angel's sing thee to thy rest. They are in the lord almighties arms

Both parents...absolutely terrible people. Poor kids😢💔RIP beautiful angels👼🦋👼🦋👼

I'm crying right now. When you said the only thing on Nicholas' mind that day was playing with his toys I lost it.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

agree, it was hard to do this one...but they need to be remembered.

So sad! I suffer from depression which is treated. My daughter also suffers from depression. She had post partum we know about it then and we were able to help her with treatment . But they only have one child. She is unwilling to go through that again. Depression is no joke. Please learn about it. Help someone who is suffering from depression or even yourself!!🙏🙏🙏❤❤

@jacquelinecrabb6088

3 жыл бұрын

I developed “post partum depression after my first child was born. I became anorexic had recurring nightmares developed anxiety and fearful. I was diagnosed 13 months AFTER my son was born. That was over 50 years ago. I have been in counseling off and on ever since along with antidepressants and anti anxiety meds. Not all depressed people kill their loved ones 🥲🥲. She needed help of some kind and nobody saw the signs or they were in denial. So sad 😞

May God rest the souls of this precious little angels in peace.

I remember Adam’s tragic death. I think of him every time I pass the spot where it happened. His dad did have his car stopped/stalled in the roadway. It was a four lane road, two lanes in both directions. In hindsight I always wished his dad would have taken him out of the car and had them wait in the grass. You just don’t think someone wouldn’t see a car right in the road. So very sad.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

broke my heart.

So sad the children had to die if the mother wanted to die she should let the kids live there lifes

That was so sad! What a tragedy! I wonder if that evil woman ever feels the least bit of remorse for killing those precious children? I know they’re R.I.P. because the Lord says, “Suffer the children to come unto me”. ❤️

This was so well done Ron! How a mother could do that is beyond me. She had a wicked plan and that's what it was a plan. Live with that lady!!! It was the perfect family....so sad 😢 Ron aren't those sketched photos amazing! I remember seeing my first one and I couldn't believe it! Back in the 90s.. Peace Ron stay safe😀🍀✌

Anyone who kills a child, should automatically receive the death penalty.

@alexiswaller3065

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlanketyBlank9050 me blankenship I agree . These people will stand before our creator . They will be judged .

@user-cf6te2ug2g

3 жыл бұрын

Women who have aborted their unborn babies will stand before their maker also and will be judged for murder..

@finchfrance

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cf6te2ug2g Nah, god is so not pro-life.

@naelyneurkopfen9741

2 жыл бұрын

@@finchfrance I pity you.

@finchfrance

2 жыл бұрын

@@naelyneurkopfen9741 That's normal. Religious people do look down on other people. Somehow they think they're better than others. I hope you get over that someday, because your "superiority" really makes you a disgusting person.

It is impossible to understand mental illness. When a family member has been diagnosed precautions are expected by family members. Infidelity on top of it can be devastating. Father was out of the home . We will never know what went through her mind at that particular time. .

What a beautiful cemetery.. i love when they’re care of so well.. that’s such a lovely place to go visit your loved ones.. I love going to visit beautiful old cemeteries too and walk around, pay respects.. and the stuff they can do with the stones and the granite is just astonishing! Its so awesome to see all of the beautiful & creative touches ppl add to their loved ones memorials.. God bless 💜🙏👍

Marilyn Lemak also killed the family's two pet dogs that night.

@FacesoftheForgotten

3 жыл бұрын

wow, didn't know that...wow, sad....sadder...

@debbiebutler3815

3 жыл бұрын

What! She killed the dogs along with those innocent babies? Very sad RIP to the babies & the dogs 😢✝️🌷🌹❤️

@1blondied

3 жыл бұрын

Omg what I'd take great joy in doing to that ****

@alrad5149

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my, I didn't read that.

@lisagerald4827

3 жыл бұрын

That was actually a different case, many years later - Elzbieta Plackowska, who killed one of her own kids and another who she was babysitting. I know the Lemak’s pet survived, but I don’t know if that part of the story was ever publicized or mentioned in proceedings.

Marilyn Lemak filed for divorce in April 1997. There apparently was a reconciliation, and she asked that the divorce case be dismissed, which it was on Aug. 7, 1997. But the peace between David and Marilyn Lemak proved to be short-lived, and she filed again for divorce on June 1, 1998. In the divorce papers, Marilyn Lemak said there were "irreconcilable differences" that were tearing the marriage apart, and she asked for child support for her children. The papers said she and her husband had been living under the same roof, but separately. On July 29, she filed papers with the court asking that she be given exclusive possession of the home, because, she said, living in the same house with her husband was "causing serious episodes of stress, which have resulted in physical symptoms." David Lemak fought the request that he be forced to move out, noting that he had been making the $3,500-a-month mortgage payments. Marilyn Lemak's request was denied in September, and David Lemak stayed at home. Meanwhile, the couple completed a court-ordered divorce education counseling program given by the DuPage County Psychological Services Department, and they then were ordered to undergo mediation. Through that mediation process, they came to agreements on child custody and visitation rights, court records show. A court document on those subjects that was signed Jan. 19 does not spell out the specifics of the agreement. Marilyn saw her husband and his new girlfriend together the day before she killed them. David was supposed to have a court-ordered visit with them the day after she had killed them. No doubt she killed them out of spite for having seen him with his girlfriend.

Thank you for honoring and giving respect to those who have passed.

My brothers ex had th baby blues bad. He moved in with her mom and dad so hr would know the girls were safe while he was at work. I couldny finish this one. Cause of my baby boy. But know i love your videos. REST IN PEACE LIL ADAM.

So crazy I was a student at North Central College during that time! I was in class and there was all these helicopters flying around and police cars complete chaos! Our professor let us leave class early since something serious had happened! It was really sad when we found out what happened! There was tons of flowers and stuffed animals outside their home! I live 25 min from there!

Such beautiful little children. So sad that their mother was so evil, but only someone in such an evil embrace could hurt children, especially their own.

I would say that this type of depression . Was the strain on the body and mind after giving birth . That should have required lab work to determine deficiencies in vitamins , minerals , amino acids , etc. To be dealt with naturally not with the typical " anti-depression " drugs .

This was certainly heinous, but sometimes circumstances can be so devastating that a person's mind breaks with reality. I'm certainly not condoning this, but emotional pain, coupled with acute, severe depression can push a person to do the unthinkable.

@peggygreeby5065

2 жыл бұрын

@@eileenmcdonald1599 have you ever endured anything so horrendous it nearly pushed you into a mental breakdown? I have, and until you have experienced something so devastating it nearly breaks you, stop judging what someone else has done. Until you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes, you don't have the experience to know what they've gone through, and what it's done to them.

I cannot have children I would have gladly opened my heart and home to them Why should those innocent babes have had to suffer

Looks like I found a new favorite channel.

@FacesoftheForgotten

2 жыл бұрын

oh wow, ty!! glad to have you here with us!!

I remember this so well. I know it hurts so bad when someone you love doesn't love you back, but you must go on and treasure your children. There is so much to live for.

something to remember....over time we ALL become the forgotten.....

You are so good at telling events ...I was absolutely riverted...Thank you x

Beautiful way to remember and honor these precious children❣️ May they rest in peace and be together in heaven❣️

So so sad😔those poor Innocent chlidren.i don't no,some people are just evil. RIP little Angels🙏🕯️😔

This woman was selfish for killing her babies for revenge. He still stayed with the other homewrecker smh.

@ma7608

2 жыл бұрын

@@eileenmcdonald1599 it doesn't justify killing the children!

To the beloved children, may you run free n play, with Angels and with God,

At the end that killer mom didn't gain nothing in taking revenge against her husband and the only one suffering the consequences is her , with the memories of knowing that she's the one who killed her 3 beautiful children , because I don't think that her conscience is at peace , and those dead kids are going to be in her mind until she dies ! Sad history , but thank you for sharing it with us the viewers (Gang ) God bless you Mr Ron !

May each and everyone of them rest in peace. 🙏🏻

What a heartbreaking tragedy. RIP Little Ones. 💞

1. thank you for making these videos. 2. I'm overwhelmed to realize I'm not alone with my LOVE&COMPASSION for the deceased and their lives lived. the cemetery...I could live there. 3. you are so genuine while telling us our story. your awsome. 4. checking in from Seattle Washington. I have many fabulous stories from good ole' " Kitsap Couny" in a town named Bremerton Washington. Bunny Brown. killed tortured by a serial killer. left some survivors. it was horrible.

I’m sure having three children so close was tough. However I did it. I had depression but dealt with it. I would have NEVER , EVER HURT my children. Thank you again Ron! As usual great job. Love and prayers from a still cold and still snowy , NYC

Love these videos and the history sharing thier stores.I also too spend time in cemeteries walking around .So beautiful and peaceful!

Words cannot even say how sad.

So sad. Thank you for sharing this story and video.

Thanks for the editing to include that information about the little boy, Adam Miller. And hope his mom found some comfort after advocating for the changes made to driving infraction laws.

I do the same thing wandering thru cemetaries - looking at ages and wondering how they died....