Historical accuracy: she was 14, he was 15. Neither was ready.

@mikeoyler2983

Жыл бұрын

I love the movie, and truly it is a guilty pleasure of mine. However, this whole darn thing is scene for scene nothing but artistic license. For instance, there would be nothing strange about this custom of the wedding to either one of them. Marie Antoinette grew up at Hofburg in Vienna which was a copy of Versailles. In fact I am not sure which language was her mother tongue: French or German. She was accustomed to all of the pleasures and advantages of the nobility in the Early Modern Era, since she was the daughter of one of the wealthiest and most powerful royal families in Europe: the Hapsburg Dynasty. None of the customs at Versailles would have been a surprise to her. Though she was probably surprised that he could not get her pregnant until they were in their early 20s. That would have been out of place because they were the monarchs of France and needed a male heir as soon as possible and women normally had children much earlier age back then.

@hannahhester8376

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikeoyler2983 You're not understanding something. Most girls in that time had absolutely no idea what was supposed to happen on a wedding night. Was never talked about. I bet Louis didn't know either, not to mention, they didn't even know each other.

@floraflowers

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeoyler2983 Her mother tongue was German but she also spoke French and Italian, though historians suggest that she spoke French with an accent. Marie and Louis actually consummated their marriage only 7 years after they had been married. Apparently the cause was that Louis suffered from phimosis, but that wasn't reason enough to stop any rumors about Marie's "inability" to become pregnant and Louis's to get her pregnant. Not to mention the fact that it was a marriage of convenience, not of love.

@purpurina5663

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeoyler2983 she was not really raised at court, as she was one of the youngest children of her mother and did not live in the capital. She would've been educated and instructed in the customs, but it is this size of court and level of involvement of the nobles in the monarch's life was not shared by other houses.

@usagi18

Жыл бұрын

Well... I have a relative who got pregnant at 14... then at 16. So yes, in some (messed up and illegal) cases, 14-year-olds do get it on

You know the royalty has gone too far when you have multiple people tucking you in 😂

@user-tt5xj5ib1e

Жыл бұрын

It was part of palace protocol. All the protocols at Versailles were invented to control the court and aristocrats, the whole hierarchy acted as a means of distraction. If you distract the nobility they can't cause any political problems .... 🤔😆

@sarahpirkle9476

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah 😂 that would be very embarrassing to me, 😂

Wow, I love the detail in this movie. I haven't seen it yet but I intend to. You really see how suffocating it is to be a royal. How awkward would it be to have all those people in your bedroom on your wedding night? And the extravagance of Versaille and their outfits is astounding. It's also beautifully filmed.

@RebeccaEWebber

Жыл бұрын

It's my favorite movie of all time. I think you'll enjoy it!

@alyssawoodman

Жыл бұрын

They had people stay in the room at that time to confirm the relationship had been consummated.

@GizmoMaltese

Жыл бұрын

@@RebeccaEWebber I finally saw it a couple of days ago. I really enjoyed it. The dresses and outfits were incredible. The cinematography is beautiful. It really focuses on how extravagant and disconnected their palatial life was from that of ordinary French people.

@BundtNothingElseMatters

Жыл бұрын

They'd all be gone in a flash.

At least they omitted the fact that Louis’ grandpa was there to ‘supervise’ the young couple. And I do mean young because they were 14 and 15 respectively.

@mysticalmargaret6105

Жыл бұрын

Ugh, I think that the 'bedding in', which was witnessed by the Court was really a gross practice of the era! Louis and Antoinette were just children too, it's no wonder that they refused to consummate their marriage until they were older (and much more age appropriate 7 years later!).

Even though the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles was in restoration - until spring 2007 - Sofia Coppola was allowed to film there a ball scene for the wedding of Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI.

Is it any wonder Marie Antoinette and Louis had trouble conceiving if they had a room full of people watching - awkward……. Performance Anxiety, anyone?

All I can say is thank god for modern conveniences...like hot showers.

@artemis2520

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that...

@lightingthedarkremoteviewi8086

Жыл бұрын

They had hot baths

@weirdshibainu

Жыл бұрын

@@lightingthedarkremoteviewi8086 Who cares? Sitting in dirty water? Pass

@cayea4076

Жыл бұрын

I feel that way about washing machines! Imagine having to wash your clothes one by one by scrubbing them.

@weirdshibainu

Жыл бұрын

@@cayea4076 Right? Cracks me up when people say how hard it is to do laundry today---they make it seem like they''re down at the river beating it against rocks.

Kirsten Durst is absolutely beautiful.

@Jakegothicsnake

9 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, I can see her playing a young Galadriel, or perhaps a Vanyarin or Telerin elf maid from Tolkien's The Silmarillion.

Those dresses with the giant side hips were the worst. 😂

@huffepuf3066

Жыл бұрын

So true, but that was the fashion back in that time era.

@janetmecham1059

Жыл бұрын

@@huffepuf3066 right, I scoff at them now, but I bet if I lived back then I would be scrambling to get me some! 😅

@shinylilfish

Жыл бұрын

They show off fancy fabric really well though

@bethanbaker7066

10 ай бұрын

The panniers then were truly impractical. It's not so bad in the late 18th century. What I find the most restricting though is the weight and length of the skirts. The stays and small panniers are absolutely fine in of themselves, some even have massive pockets which are really handy. Though other times it's a separate garment.

@wolfclaw254

3 ай бұрын

From what I understand of the time panniers were out of fashion nearly everywhere else in the world. Yet France was considered (as it is now) the height of fashion. Austria, Marie Antoinette's country of origin, did not use the panniers during her youth so it was quite a change when she married into the French royal family. I've heard that sometimes the panniers were 6 feet in width. So bigger than most people were in height. Kinda ridiculous to think about today. But history is made much more interesting just because of the absurdity of some things that occurred.

I seriously thought they were gonna watch them like it was a show…😂😂😂 did they really need the whole party to say goodnight?!?! 🤔🤨🫤

@pisces2569

Жыл бұрын

It was to keep the nobles too busy to backstab each other and the king

They were both 15 Marie looks like 18/19 but Louis looks freaking 31

The one tiny thing is that Louis-Auguste was a tall man, over 6 feet 2. The actor here is too short, but otherwise a great film!

@RebeccaEWebber

Жыл бұрын

It felt like the right mood for the character I think.

@mysticalmargaret6105

Жыл бұрын

@@RebeccaEWebber Oh indeed it was! 😎

@GaiusOctavius4

7 ай бұрын

Do you have sources for that? Actually the average height of men til the 19th century before drinking cow milk was commercialized was 1.68M or 5'6''. A man being 6'2'' in the 1780s would be freaky.

@Scarlet-st5qs

7 ай бұрын

@@GaiusOctavius4nah the king of France was tall as hell. I mean so was George Washington he was 6’2

@molarmaven3264

Ай бұрын

@@Scarlet-st5qs Henry VIII was 6'2" as well.

Fantastic my friend 👋🏻💖👋🏻

Everyone looks so unhappy, Marie Antoinette is just dancing and acting like she is having the time of her life, making the best of a bad situation.

It's baby making time!

This came out the year I was born

pity, the film does not mention the first report, even if incomplete, in 1773, not after 8 years

And the next day, Louis wrote in his diary "Rien" ,or "nothing"!

@joeveneroso3101

3 күн бұрын

Actually he wrote that on July 14-- Bastille Day!

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And Rip Torn!

The guy looks fun!

I almost feel sorry for them.

@vulcan2882

Жыл бұрын

no need to be, they're dead now.

@vulcan2882

Жыл бұрын

@AfianyArkoasnow298 .. well it's true.

@SC-gw8np

Жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for them all the way. They were both good and innocent people, mercilessly slandered and killed by ruthless and power hungry despots.

@Boxghost102

Жыл бұрын

@@SC-gw8np Marie probably was, but Louis was not. As oppressive and out of touch as all the others. And a completely incompetent fool too. The problem is the people who came after weren't any better.

@SC-gw8np

Жыл бұрын

@@Boxghost102 You say all those things, and they supposedly tried Louis for all those things in a kangaroo court, but there was absolutely no conclusive evidence found that condemned Louis. He was killed anyway. France at that time was not producing enough wheat because of poor weather. Louis told the peasants to do crop rotation and plant potatoes but they didn’t listen. There were internal problems in his government with nobles refusing to pay tax and being debauched and immoral. It’s easy to sit and judge Louis but it isn’t easy to control the wicked, even for a King. The fact that the people who came after mysteriously grew wealthy throughout the revolution should tell you who was really pulling the strings off stage.

Originally they stayed long enough to make sure the bride lost her virginity

@tuffsmurfen96

Жыл бұрын

No, that’s really just a myth.

@RoxanneSharbono-mb8ol

Жыл бұрын

@@tuffsmurfen96 your not going back far enough in time. Think bc.

@carolinpurayidom4570

Жыл бұрын

@@tuffsmurfen96 No not really

@ria-zul-zannah7100

Жыл бұрын

What?? Really?? Yuck! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

@RoxanneSharbono-mb8ol

Жыл бұрын

I know then it progressed to the gro I m showing a bloody blanket. But I know in some cultures it stayed until modern times only it was the parents making sure they were really married

Did they legit just start talking about Marie and Louis'... Private bed affairs? Like... Everybody was calling them both "cold in bed" and all sorts of disgusting things

They're crazy people to attend the consumption night

@pinkpastelhearts

7 ай бұрын

that was completely normal back then in france, with royal families

@Chirel999

7 ай бұрын

@@pinkpastelhearts I know but that feels a little weird

@yoleeisbored

6 ай бұрын

Make sure that the kid was biologically his.

@thomasdoyle9748

13 күн бұрын

Consumation night?

Congratulations.

Do y'all remember Kim's wedding to Kanye was like this, with all those fireworks? These people SINCERELY thought the world was celebrating with them and that they GENUINELY percieved themselves as royalty.

@KiwiBirb63

5 ай бұрын

Lmao i had no idea they married. Aren't they divorced now 😂? And Kanye married some new chick

In a country ruled by an absolute monarchy, at a time when still-limited medical knowledge meant that life expectancy was very low and infant/child mortality, in particular, was very high, they did the best they knew how in order to ensure that there would be an heir that would survive long enough to sit on the throne in their own right, and produce their own heir.

@GaiusOctavius4

7 ай бұрын

Life expectancy wasn't low individually but in average, yes, because of wars, but usually, it was common that even ordinary people reach 70-80 years of age. Even Augustus reached 77 years, died in 14 AD etc. Check out some heritage sites and church registrations of old europe and you will be astounded how old people actually got if not killed by accidents or wars.

Cosy

I like faces Jason makes while he's dancing. 14 and 15 years old being judged by a bunch of 40 - 80 year olds. Ugh. I't giving pedo vibes. No wonder the laws have changed. It was anything for them not sit there and actually watch the children COPULATE. They'd all be gone if it was me.

I had no idea so many people on the Internet could be so ignorant of history. Read the books about this couple! So many stupid remarks.

And Laura Spies, I wanna meet you and your Kirsten Dunst and the Queen of Austria and Dauphine of France.

What Language Is This? 3:10

@shramanamondal4624

8 ай бұрын

French l guess?

@dls9437

7 ай бұрын

Latin

I really don't like some of the tradition in these era specially arrange marriege for politics and power.

@suemikeemery

Жыл бұрын

You think? 😂

@jesteralfonso8409

Жыл бұрын

For me Yeah.

@maiagoldsberry2748

Жыл бұрын

For royals, it was rarely marriage for love. They either learned to love each other or they just learned to tolerate each other until they died

@jesteralfonso8409

Жыл бұрын

Well that's true i guess?.

@Auroraeevee-m1q

Жыл бұрын

There are still arranged marriages in certain cultures and parts of the world. I know several people who have had one. Some were happy, some were not.....but, in non-arranged marriages, you also get happy and unhappy people. As long as no one's getting an arranged marriage without their consent or approval, I have no issues with them. My marriage was to my spouse wasn't arranged, but we didn't just happen to meet and fall in love by chance, either. Still together after almost 18 years but not without our fair share of issues.

Moive

@pinkpastelhearts

7 ай бұрын

marie antionette (2006)

What’s this

@vulcan2882

Жыл бұрын

a video clip

@brandonharrischannel7516

Жыл бұрын

@@vulcan2882 I know that

@brandonharrischannel7516

Жыл бұрын

@@vulcan2882 that’s not what I’m asking

@vulcan2882

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonharrischannel7516 .. it's supposed to be the story of Marie Attoinette of France.

@brandonharrischannel7516

Жыл бұрын

@@vulcan2882 oh never heard of it

So children getting married 😮😢😢😢😂

Onlyfans back in the day.

What's the deal with all those wigs???

@maiagoldsberry2748

Жыл бұрын

That was the fashion

@turbobus4983

Жыл бұрын

It was the style at the time.

@steellegacy1984

Жыл бұрын

The old Balenciaga's

@sureillbethere

Жыл бұрын

Lice. Truly. They had to shave their heads because of lice. Then gradually it became fashionable to have the most outlandish ones. They show them here with natural hair but... 🤷

@ssansu

Жыл бұрын

They never bathed

This was right before Marie Antoinette went too far, starting the French Revolution. And after both Marie and her hubby King Louis XVI were arrested, then they had to ‘quit while they were a-head’ of themselves. Get it? Cause they faced execution at the guillotine.

@fremejoker

Жыл бұрын

Dude, never explain a joke!

@O-DogKubrick

Жыл бұрын

@@fremejoker The Crypt Keeper said that once in the end of “Bordello of Blood”.