"You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than you can with just a kind word."

@JnEricsonx

2 жыл бұрын

Or in this case, a collapsing steel? staff.

@kevinskoien6165

3 ай бұрын

That is my new mantra...

"Oh, bugger. Now I have to wait for someone to wake up." Love Marcus. Top Man! Babylon 5 Rules!

@HouseOfDebo

Ай бұрын

Agreed! Babylon 5 was packed to the gills with amazing one liners and speeches, and Marcus had great lines to spare

"I'm not repressed anymore...." Great line from a show with thousands of them!!

@Lachdanun

Жыл бұрын

And so it begins..

@johngregory4801

10 ай бұрын

It's the shrug that sells it.

"Bugger! Now I have to wait for somebody to wake up."

@logandarklighter

6 жыл бұрын

I laughed SO hard at that line. :D

@s-094cam5

6 жыл бұрын

"They said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger." "And?" "I'm not repressed anymore." Don't care how many times I see it, I laugh endlessly at that.

@KristineMaitland

5 жыл бұрын

@@logandarklighter I laughed so hard because it is just so of thing he, the actor, would say in real life. I met him at a convention panel many years ago. We had a colleague in common. But I knew something he didn't. Hilarity ensued.

@logandarklighter

5 жыл бұрын

@@KristineMaitland That is marvelously cryptic of you. Don't feel pressured to tell what it was though. I have a vivid imagination. :D

@Crazael

4 жыл бұрын

That, and the bit about the unfairness of the universe are my favorite lines from Marcus.

Oh the layers here i never noticed the first time i watched it so many years ago. I always thought Lennier turning on Sheridan in S5 was out of character and disappointing but the groundwork is laid here. Lennier does not like humans. The way he looks and talks to Marcus here (despite probably respecting or liking Marcus) seems to confirm it. His idea also that his love for Delenn is "pure and noble", borders on obsessiveness and even delusion and Marcus sees it and tries to warn him. lennier is always so loyal and friendly and kind on the surface but like all characters on B5 he has another side and this scene shows it.

@josephsoltero7326

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed there's a whole Reddit thread called "Lennier the Bigot" that uses this very scene as one of its main examples to explain how Lennier's betrayal is not as unexpected as may seem. Further, Lennier himself observed in "Points of Departure," one full season earlier, that "Minbari souls are being reborn, in part or in full, in human bodies." So for him now to sneer that "we are NOT you" comes across as flat-out defiant, in my opinion.

@BladeOfLight16

3 жыл бұрын

Like G'Kar said, no one on Babylon 5 was what they seemed.

@this.is.a.username

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephsoltero7326 season 5 doesn't count

@tanjastrau5925

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephsoltero7326 The Reddit was worth checking out. Thanks for the hint!

@tilasole3252

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what he expected though by letting Sheridan die. Obviously cameras are every where. If not that exact spot and it would be odd if not, than the adjoining rooms. Although I do not think humans in B5 are as hightech as those in Star Trek, surely they would have found out what had happened. Not like Delenn would be so quick to go to anyone to begin with, much less with someone who let her husband die. But in that moment perhaps he was not thinking. But yes, this is a good look at another side of of Lennier. Although he uses these words to Marcus, I am pretty sure he would have reacted the same way had any other race, including his own, had touched him in such a fashion under the circumstances. He is torn inside for what has happened to her too.

3:24 - "Come on, give me a break." "Certainly, what would you like? A arm? A leg? We're fresh out of broken hearts. We just had a run on those. How about we start with your fingers and work our way up?"

"Bugger, now I have to wait for someone to wake up." I love that bit.

@Shadowstrom

Жыл бұрын

Its between Marcus and Garibaldi as to who has some of the best lines

"I'm not repressed anymore." I swear to god this is one of my favorite lines in the entire series. I really loved Marcus. Sucks he wasn't in Season 5 but at least in the end he finally more or less got what he wanted.

Love how Marcus says “excuse me” before he goes to make sure the thug regrets that he’s the first guy who woke up

@johngregory4801

10 ай бұрын

Well, there'd just been a run on broken hearts, so he needed to focus on the business at hand.

Oh, I had forgotten just how ABSOLUTELY PERFECT the dialogue was on this show. 'fresh out of broken hearts, just had a run on those.'

I REALLY liked Marcus. I was so sorry they killed him off. But - as always with Marcus - his last act was an incredibly noble one.

@Revkor

5 жыл бұрын

If they knew Invanavai's actor was not returning they would have let him live.

@kerberos623

5 жыл бұрын

JMS have written a short story where Marcus and Ivanova get a happy ending. Can't remember the name of it though.

@RandallHallKaizenReiki

4 жыл бұрын

When they did it, they thought it was the end of the series.

@McRocket

4 жыл бұрын

@@RandallHallKaizenReiki Good point. Still...sorry they killed him off.

@RandallHallKaizenReiki

4 жыл бұрын

@@McRocket Me, too. He was a great character and added a great dynamic to the show.

They said I had a lot of issues with Repressed anger. ......well? I'm not repressed anymore.

@TheMelbournelad

3 жыл бұрын

Makes me chuckle EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

A vastly underrated show. Much of the writing was superior to others that lasted longer.

@sasquatchycowboy5585

2 жыл бұрын

It had a set timeline from the start.

@patrickmcpherson97

2 жыл бұрын

@@sasquatchycowboy5585 Oh, that I already knew, but still wished it would have lasted longer.

@sasquatchycowboy5585

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmcpherson97 I just wish that the faith season would have been approved, and the order could have been the original pland order

"You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than you can with just a kind word." Words to live by.

@rowanaforrest9792

2 ай бұрын

This whole scene is one of my favorite with Marcus. His sense of humor is the sort that I thoroughly love. I can't explain why, but it sort of reminds me of the character of Murdock on the A-Team (the original TV series, not the movie) -- quick, eccentric, off beat, out of left field, erudite, unpredictable, unforgettable! (I adore both characters, which is odd since I'm usually not fond of the "crazy" types, but Murdock isn't really crazy. He's just good at pretending.)

@PsychoGemini

2 ай бұрын

Even though they're worlds apart in terms of character (Marcus's repressed anger and hopeless romanticism), I never thought of that but it somehow makes sense.

LMAO "It's like I've always said, you can accomplish more with a kind word and a 2x4 than with just a kind word." :)

@laramyelliott2903

9 жыл бұрын

It sound sounds like Marcus has a lot in common with a Certain U.S President who said something similar.

@crazyman8472

8 жыл бұрын

"Speak softly, and carry a big stick!" - Theodore Roosevelt [Fun Fact: T.R. usually shouted, and almost always carried a gun.] :)

@duffey3

6 жыл бұрын

Ah, the Capone corollary.

@erikjaroy8214

4 жыл бұрын

Live by these words, gents!😆

@hydewhyte4364

4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else wonder where a space faring Ranger hundreds of years in the future ever encountered building lumber in imperial measurements?

I've been watching so many of these clips, I should just watch the show....

@Shadowstrom

4 жыл бұрын

It is a good show, it really picks up in season 2

@Anlushac11

3 жыл бұрын

Iike all shows it has its ups and downs. There are hundreds of good clips.

I was seriously bummed out when his character died. He was my Favorite behind Vir Cotto.

@tanjastrau5925

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! Also, his death was unnecessary as he could have had the medical staff assist him instead of knocking them unconscious. Why he thought they would not help save Ivanova by connecting themselves to the alien device in turns is beyond me. So, death for drama's sake.

Lenier knew Sheridan and Delenn meant to be and she couldn't feel for him.. Once Sheridan and Delenn looked at each other there was no turning back.. I love that in end Sheridan was the one who beat the crap of the guy that hurt Delenn he almost paralyzed him ..

We can never find Delenn again... and I'd beat up the whole room twice if it brought her back... Sleep well Mira

Poor Lennier. Not realising that such a feeling would damn him later.

People overlook Mumy as an actor. "That's a dangerous promise..." was so prophetic re the character arc yet to follow.

Marcus had some of the best lines in the show!

I've just recently discovered this show, only watched clips so far. And yep! Marcus is already on his way to being one of my favorite characters! "Now I have to wait for somebody to wake up!" Gold! Also, Bill Mumy is awesome too. But then even back in "Lost in Space" he had great acting moments so it's no big surprise that he's gotten more improved into adulthood.

@TauridBorn

5 жыл бұрын

You don't really get the full impact from clips

Its ABSOLUTELY AMAZING to see how well Jason Carter, a fellow work colleague (at a new supermarket where we worked P/T general assistants), has done for himself since 1978. My partner actually knew him, telling her he was playing a part in an adaption in George Eliots's novel Mill On The Floss and to watch for him on T.V when it came on. I knew of him as we both share the same surname. Its funny, we were only talking about Jason just a few weeks ago. Good old Gainsborough boy (Lincolnshire, U.K)

@Rapscallion2009

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't really sound like it in this, though. Mind you, regional accents are generally discouraged on TV shows with every Englishman coming from Oxford, and every American from upstate New York UNLESS the plot demands it.

As much as this scene showed how much of a badass Marcus was by wiping the floor with everything there, it showed how much more of a badass Lennier was by the way he almost man-handled Marcus.

Another Minbari weakness, they so hard strife for perfection that have very, eery, very big problem with accepting existance of their darker side. They refuse to see it, to admit they may be wrong, until things blow up and the hell broke loose. At the end of the H-M War they were tired and sick of bloodshied, they wanted to stop, even warrior cast, but still they hide behind honour and duty. They needed reason to stop, as if the posiibility of genoside wasn't reason enough. It was not noble and pure perfect love, Lenier never truly accepted Delenn and Sherigan union, part of him was still wishing for her to leave her human 2nd part of the soul and when opportunity arrose, he /spoilers/ you know. We humans are made of contraditions, good and evil, order and chaos, love and hate, peace and passion, we know them, we recognize them, we accept them in general, it is from this diversity our strengh comes. We fall and we rise. Thats why I think that Minbari, with their all "honour and we do not lie" stuff, are not very honest.

@clairestark9024

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryszard Nanke the mimbari are our opposite number our older 'brother' if you will, they generally get along 'better and enjoy more harmonious lives than us but they still have our darksides. Their's articulates itself less often but far more dramatically. It's unfair to write them off as flawed because everyone in the show is flawed they have strengths we don't and they have failings we don't.

@ryszardnanke3860

8 жыл бұрын

+Claire Morris Having darker side is one thing, we all do, probably every sencient being go it too. It is part of our evolutionary legacyl. Being honest to admit it is another, and this is where Mimbari got a very very very big problem. Lenier is of course not the one to blame, He is a product of Minbari society: nice, kind, living by code and reputation, curious about the universe (not exactly mimbari feature, since they tend to be isolationists), but also very represed. And this bounds can't hold them any longer, they tend to do something astronomicly stupid. They are like old tree, ancient, tall, proud, unbowed, but when it falls it is over.

@shyone968

5 жыл бұрын

I think they need their caste system. those who are more peaceful are drawn to the religious caste. Those more aggressive are drawn to the warrior caste. Those who are balanced go to the worker caste. In the end they gave five places on the grey council to the workers. Those who build the society are now leading it. I think lenier was in the wrong caste. He too had repressed aggressions. When he studied to be a ranger he took step in the right direction but he needed to have some therapy about his problems. He would have done better to never have left the temples and stayed on Mimbari. But going to B-5 awoke his repressed feelings. This show did well with the growth of the minor characters a well as the major ones. A true ensemble show.

@donaldpaluga

5 жыл бұрын

Rule #1 The Minbari lie

Those are wise words by Marcus Cole. You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 piece of wood than with just a kind word. I am glad the kind stranger volunteered some useful information.

I want a Lennier or a Marcus of my own! I adore them both!

@_Meriwether

9 ай бұрын

Men aren't property to be owned, you know.

Looking at this now, I think Lennier's man-handling of Marcus was way out of line. JMS claimed that Minbari are big on personal space and Marcus momentarily forgot himself, but I don't buy it. I think Lennier was stressed over Delenn, and he momentarily took that out on Marcus.

@JnEricsonx

6 жыл бұрын

Considering their mutual stress levels went to 11, maybe. Everyone has a Berserk Button.

@Methos2560

5 жыл бұрын

also goes to show you, the Difference in Strength Levels between a Human and Minbari, they may be quiet and serene people now, but they are way stronger then humans marcus is probably around 5'9 to 6'0 tall and Lennier manhandled him one handed off the ground in less then 2 seconds.

@Dafmeister1978

5 жыл бұрын

@@Methos2560 Puts the damage Marcus did to Neroon into perspective, doesn't it? Marcus may have lost that fight, but I don't think Neroon had taken that much of a beating in a very long time.

@Methos2560

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dafmeister1978 This is part of the Revelations Naroon had, this human willing to die for a Minbari, to fight so passionately for, and who literally stood his ground with one of the best (and he was pretty much the defecto second in command of The Warrior class) and got a degree of a assbeating by a human, and at this time in Babylon5 lore not many of The Anla'shok had a Denn'bak, so Naroon had to have automatically know Marcus was diffrent by the cheer fact he posed one.

@Daniel-rd6st

5 жыл бұрын

@@Methos2560 In all honesty, i think Naroon held back, especially at the beginning of the fight. I think he wanted to test Marcus determination, if he was ready to follow action with words and not kill him. I doubt that a serious battle would have lasted more than 3 seconds. The strenght difference is so great, that Marcus couldnt block a blow of Naroon without breaking something, probably his wrists. The one strike of Marcus that actually did damage was a surprise attack that Naroon didnt see coming.

The sad tragedy of these two. Noble, honest, loyal individuals whose love was not returned :(

Two characters who gave their all for people they admired but who hardly noticed their existence.

1 highly trained human = badass. 1 minbari civilian = more badass. Beware the nice ones

@hydewhyte4364

4 жыл бұрын

Who ever suggested Lennier was a civilian? Attache to an ambassador, he almost has to have had extra bodyguard training

Marcus is Batman. A polite, oh so *British* Batman. But just as bad-ass. 😎

@donaldpaluga

4 жыл бұрын

Does that make Garibaldi Deadpool or Wolverine?

@samsignorelli

4 жыл бұрын

No no no...not Batman. He's the only person who could really take Bats down...Alfred.

@suchiuomizu

3 жыл бұрын

He's also the Vorlon god, Booji.

AWESOME, thank you. certainly exceeds what i thought id remembered.

1:12 Yeah, that's happened once or twice in our Pathfinder campaign....

Awesome clip, thank you

"I know that she's fated for another." I KNEW IT! LENNIER SHIPS IT TOO

"In five minutes I will be the only one at this table still standing. Five minutes after that I will be the only one in this room still standing." When someone makes such a statement with the assurance and conviction that Marcus displayed, maybe, just MAYBE, you should pause and consider your position.

@loka7783

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, these men were all career criminals, definitely no strangers to roughing the odd negligent client up on occasion. Marcus wasn't very imposing physically, no bulging muscles, not over seven feet tall and there were at least five of them. Even trained fighters don't usually throw themselves into situations like those. They probably just thought he was punch drunk.

its like I always said. you can get more with a kind word and a 2 by 4 than with just a kind word.

Marcus and Ivanova are my two favorite characters on Babylon 5. It's a shame they couldn't get together. You know, physically. 😉

Some of the best SF takes place in bars. That's where the characters develop and you get most of the laughs. My two favs are Callahan's Crosstime Saloon and Tales of The Screaming Eagle. Great books.

I love Marcus.

@Shadowstrom

5 жыл бұрын

He was always my favourite character

Love talking to Jason on FB. Very approachable!

I Loved Marcus I have named my son after him cuz he really is very deep and honourable

Oh, considering how things turned out, think it was far more than just some Platonic love.

Even in the far flung future, in Minbari space, there are the simps.

I like how they didn't even show the fight, they just implied that much violence ensued. I bet Babylon 5 Security arrived, saw the pissed off Ranger laying waste to everyone and promptly went "Nope!"

@donaldpaluga

4 жыл бұрын

Zach wanted NO part of that!

@robertbusek30

3 жыл бұрын

@@donaldpaluga - Yeah, Zach probably looked at who Marcus was pounding and thought, “Let’s just pass by quietly...”

He's B5's version of Chuck Norris, he will kick your ass and make you say thank you for the beating! lol Love Marcus!

"Do not touch me in that fashion. We may sometimes look like you, but we are not you. Never forget that." Is it just me or does that sound a bit prejudiced?

@TymersRealm

4 жыл бұрын

No. Just stating a distinct fact.

@stuartmcclurey9926

4 жыл бұрын

@@TymersRealm I just realised Lennir lifted Marcus off the ground.

@allisonforfornsed

4 жыл бұрын

of course! I love it! This scene demonstates that Lennier is not perfect, that he's a normal, flawed being like everyone else and that he has some prejudice toward certain non-minbari people. MEN ESPECIALLY. and all of that comes flying out to the surface when the love of his life is threatened. It's so damn cute.

@hydewhyte4364

4 жыл бұрын

@@stuartmcclurey9926 with one arm, fully extended

@SantomPh

4 жыл бұрын

Lennier is of the Religious Caste. The source of many prejudices of his people. Also, despite looking fairy-ish the Minbari are super-strong. The quiet and calm Lennier is even more underestimated by others

Definitely in top five.

Marcus was talking from experience. He loved Ivanova, but knew she was not interested. Although she were not "fated" as it were, to another. There was no boffing in the forseeable future.

If Marcus is such a badass and he subside towards Lennier one has to wonder what kind of person Lennier is?

Marcus is the best

gaaaaaaaaawd I love Bill Mumy, Lennier was such a great character.

“You can get more with a kind work and a 2x4 than you can with a kind word.”

Sigh . . I was going to marry Marcus, of course I was 13 years old, but love knows no age differences. :)

@tenhirankei

7 жыл бұрын

Reference Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis for this.

@CaptEoNinja83

4 жыл бұрын

I've been there, Hon. Though in my case, by the time I discovered the actor in question and fell in love...he died about 8 years before I was born. Sonofa...

@Valeska687

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptEoNinja83 the actor died?!? I had no idea!

@Valeska687

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptEoNinja83 no he didn't. I just looked him up. Unless you were referring to the character and not the actor. In which case I feel incredibly silly.

@BladeOfLight16

3 жыл бұрын

I hate to break it to you, but that wasn't love.

1:13 :D thats why we love Marcus

"....a kind word and a two-by-four..." I'll have to remember that.. 😁

"Two Simps" coming this fall to Babcom!

I wanted to see that fight.

@Kainlarsen Yes. Poor, dear Lennier. Don't you just want to hug him?

That long hair really dates the show.

In my heart I ship Delenn and Lennier, always have

That look at :53 You know this is going badly for a roomful of people, many of whom were probably just having a drink and knew nothing anyhow.

Season 5 Episode 5 Learning Curve

You see, Lennier's love is very different from that of a square.

have to agree although i am surprised at some of the lines he got a away with

"you can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 then just with a kind word". lmao

Lennier loves (in his way) Delenn. I'm sure his admission caught everyone off-guard. Right?

@reginal.898

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe his admission a bit, but it was plain to see even in earlier episodes that Lennier feels deeply for Delenn. So the fact that he loves her came as no surprise for me at all.

I would love to meet the one person who said that this concept of good and evil was wrong... "The concepts of right and wrong"

@tenhirankei

7 жыл бұрын

Protect what is good through an evil action?

Billy Mumy HATED that makeup, but he endured for his family.

@juliadagnall5816

10 ай бұрын

No wonder why in every interview I’ve seen he mentions that the agent he had at the time wasn’t very good 🤣

Despite all this love and repressed frustration over Delenn Lennier did not save her from the starfire wheel. Instead, Neroon had to jump in and sacrifice himself. I never understood that. He almost had no visible emotional reaction then while literally watching her die slowly but here he freaks out over not knowing if she is ok or not.

We may sometimes look like you, but we are NOT you!

Yeah right Lennier, you "love" her.

@samsignorelli

4 жыл бұрын

Look up "Courtly love"...that's what he's referring to.

@Bek359

3 жыл бұрын

@@samsignorelli That's what he *believes* it to be, anyway. Certain scenes in Season 5 lend themselves to a rather... different interpretation.

@rowanaforrest9792

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bek359 That's Lennier's problem. He tells himself that his love for Delenn is pure and noble and he only wants to serve her, but he's not being honest with himself. After he betrayed Sheridan in Season 5 and fled into exile, they found journal entries showing that he resented Sheridan and was offended that Delenn married a human.

@LordZontar

2 жыл бұрын

@@rowanaforrest9792 I always like to imagine that afterward, when they break into his quarters at the Anlya-Shok training centre they discover Lennier had turned the rooms into some kind of sick shrine to Delenn: the walls covered floor to ceiling with photos of her, an altar with candles set up with a special framed portrait of her at its centre, candles lining the floors and crowded on every table and shelf, pictures of Sheridan with devil horns, black eyes and drooling fang-filled teeth drawn on them... "That boy ain't right in the head," says one investigating Ranger to the other.

God do I ever wanna pull this off in my bar...

When you make my sister mad is pretty much Marcus

I'm curious-since you never see it proper-did Marcus never even use his staff for this?

0:55 should have inserted a Spongebob "10 minutes later ..."

Lennier: "My feelings are special!" Like every friendzone virgin ever

"the greatist teacher faiiler is" Master Yoda if only Marcus knew that

@davincent98

3 жыл бұрын

The Last Jedi

Kid grew up.

Marcus and Stephen were a great chaotic duo. Am I wrong?

It's a nice scene, but it kind of doesn't make sense. Marcus was trained on Minbar, he lived and trained with the Minbari. If anything, he's more used to fighting Minbari than humans, he knows just how strong Minbari are and how to fight them, he shouldn't be surprised by Lennier. If anything, Lennier should be concerned because this guy was trained to fight hand to hand combat with Minbari and knows their weak points and how to win

@FaxModem1 well the membare don't strike me as being as touchy feely as humans are in this show. not to metion being at war with another race can do that. it can take generations at times for that kind of prejudice to go away if it even does

Any 30 year old virgin would have repressed anger

I'm not repressed any more. Loved Marcus' character, hated that they killed him off.

Where's Delenn? She's beyond the rim.

a word and 2x4 quot Jim Duggan lol and one of biker that live to save kids Khmer Massacre! battle of worf 359

I thought it was just honest.

Space simp!

A love that can only be truly expressed by addressing her as m'lady while tipping a fedora

You need to be much heavier than the person you lift at that angle or you topple forward, however impressive your strength is.

@OpenMawProductions

3 жыл бұрын

No. Because I said so.

His trainers said he had issues with suppressed anger. Well, it wasn't suppressed any more.

But it was romantic love.....

I didn't really care for this character. It felt forced to me.