Babylon 5 - S3E10 Severed Dreams We Fight or We Surrender

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Taken from Babylon 5 season 3 episode 10: Severed Dreams. Sheridan and the crew realize what's at stake in the current conflict with Earth.
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Created by J. Michael Straczynski

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  • @hankmessaros1835
    @hankmessaros18355 жыл бұрын

    I really miss this show, who else??

  • @macguyver5936

    @macguyver5936

    Жыл бұрын

    It's streaming on HBO Max right now. All 5 seasons.

  • @jefftappan3091

    @jefftappan3091

    Жыл бұрын

    Much better than TNG could have been.

  • @jefftappan3091

    @jefftappan3091

    Жыл бұрын

    Can't see D-Day in uniform.

  • @IRMentat

    @IRMentat

    Жыл бұрын

    Still own it on DVD. Classics never die. But they can have their reputations sullied by shitty retcon follow ups by unrelated companies.

  • @Dwohman

    @Dwohman

    Жыл бұрын

    The best scifi series ever!

  • @roguishpaladin
    @roguishpaladin4 жыл бұрын

    I think that Kim Mayako (the actress who played Captain Hiroshi) doesn't get enough credit for her performance here. She only gets two times to speak, and yet when the Churchill rams the Roanoke it's a powerful, powerful moment. For a brief moment, we knew her, and we can hear how different her voice sounds in that scene compared to here. It's also wonderfully directed and scored, of course, but it all came together. Arguably, also, hers was the first large-scale sacrifice which allows B5 to ultimately win the Shadow War and the Earth Civil War. I hope in-universe she got a statue or something.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    4 жыл бұрын

    with naval tradition it is likely ahe had a ship named after her.

  • @TheDa6781

    @TheDa6781

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kim, is that you ?

  • @kurtjk01

    @kurtjk01

    3 жыл бұрын

    She knew what was coming, and made the right choice. The acceptance the other officers had for her when she informed them indicates that they knew who Hiroshi was; after all, just about every person of commander level and above had fought in and survived the Earth-Minbari War, and at least knew *of* that person, if not that person, well, personally. That, more than anything else, is why Ryan was so distressed when he cried out, "Hiroshi! Hiroshi!!;" He knew what they lost when they lost her. It was all so very well crafted, with so few lines.

  • @CPT_Nelson

    @CPT_Nelson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her name is Kim Miyori, not Mayako!

  • @carlousmagus5387

    @carlousmagus5387

    2 жыл бұрын

    Got to name a Ship after her.

  • @Ginea25
    @Ginea2511 жыл бұрын

    I genuinely cried when ISN, the REAL ISN came back on. It's amazing what this show could do, the emotional effect it had.

  • @andrewlocke3389

    @andrewlocke3389

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think many viewers were right there with you.

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich

    @thegreenmanofnorwich

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did the chap, Rick, come back? I remember the woman, Jane, did. Her speech on returning with the very well-done voice cracking brought a lump to my throat.

  • @ishoottheyscore8970

    @ishoottheyscore8970

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thegreenmanofnorwich No he didn't. That's part of what made her return so powerful as she obliquely refers to people lost

  • @ZeitdiebX

    @ZeitdiebX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Greatest show of all time. Very close to a religion, even for an atheist like me. There will never be anything like it again.

  • @kurtjk01

    @kurtjk01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thegreenmanofnorwich No, he didn't. It's the subtleties of B5 which are part of its greatness: Rick, who broke the silence and tried to spew as many facts as he could before they went off-air was a particular target; Jane, by saying "Rick, don't do this" inadvertently saved herself by making seem she would go along to get along, be a good propagandist, and tried to stop her friend, Rick. Rick was taken out and shot, simple as that, and she was put into a "re-education camp" because the regime wanted familiar faces to tell the "right" story. Jane's short speech about what happened before reporting the real news of the liberation of Earth spoke *volumes* about what the folks at ISN went through.

  • @vguyver2
    @vguyver25 жыл бұрын

    The fact that even B5's life loving doctor wants to fight is telling of how dangerous the situation has become.

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    2 жыл бұрын

    We Fight or We Surrender!

  • @kjpierson1152

    @kjpierson1152

    Жыл бұрын

    To steal a quote: "Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps."

  • @Synthonym

    @Synthonym

    Жыл бұрын

    Killing nazis is like treating a cancer. It can be destructive but the only other option is to lay down and die

  • @kimnice

    @kimnice

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kjpierson1152 I don't know where that quote is from, but it's bullshit. There's NEVER a need to execute a person. Never. Execution is always about revenge and the need to punish and hurt. It's always about peoples need to hurt others! ..but yeah..in this scene we have a rare occasion where fight-option is safer.

  • @kjpierson1152

    @kjpierson1152

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kimnice The quote is from Mass Effect. However, it holds. If someone is standing there with a bomb, waiting to kill a dozen people, it is exactly that scenario where execution is a benefit. How do you help people? Killing the bomber helps them.

  • @mikecimerian6913
    @mikecimerian69138 жыл бұрын

    This episode received a Nebula Award. Rare in television sci-fi.

  • @JohnLRice

    @JohnLRice

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mike Cimerian It's a great episode, one of my most favorite!

  • @captin3149

    @captin3149

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Phelan nebulas.sfwa.org/award/ray-bradbury-award/ The 1998 entry. It's apparently a different category than the regular Nebulas.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    2 жыл бұрын

    It deserved it. It predicted the future. The 2014 Ukrainian coup and the civil war that followed.

  • @shamsham1229

    @shamsham1229

    Жыл бұрын

    This episode specifically received a Hugo Award, it was the show overall that won a Nebula Award in 1998 when it concluded.

  • @mikecimerian6913

    @mikecimerian6913

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shamsham1229 thanks buddy I always confuse Hugo and Nebula. :)

  • @logandarklighter
    @logandarklighter6 жыл бұрын

    You know that when even the pacifist Doctor Franklin says "Fight" that the excrement has impacted with the rotating blades...

  • @donaldpaluga

    @donaldpaluga

    4 жыл бұрын

    You mean the poop has hit the fan-Eugene Meltsner

  • @crucisnh

    @crucisnh

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@donaldpalugaI was thinking that the feces has hit the rotating oscillator.

  • @darthXreven

    @darthXreven

    4 жыл бұрын

    the fit hit the shan for sure...... oh and duck fisney!

  • @grevolon

    @grevolon

    4 жыл бұрын

    I realize this is a two year old comment. But gold. I had to call it out.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    3 жыл бұрын

    His father was a Earthforce Marine General, after all

  • @Wyrmshadow
    @Wyrmshadow11 жыл бұрын

    "Where's General Hauge?" "He couldn't make it. His agent double booked him on Star Trek DS:9" Yes that's in the blooper reel.

  • @saberstrike000

    @saberstrike000

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but at the same time, by killing him off it places command/the decision fully on the main characters' shoulders. Plus, Bruce McGill was a solid stand in.

  • @danielyeshe

    @danielyeshe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saberstrike000 And he was a mistake in casting. JMS wanted someone else.

  • @thomasmatthewharris1980

    @thomasmatthewharris1980

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was killed

  • @eDDyL666

    @eDDyL666

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saberiandream316 and a lot of the characters had the same names THE STATIONS • Both shows were set on massive space stations with single-digit names (Deep Space 9 vs. Babylon 5) located near transit points of immense power that were not of Terran design (the Bajoran wormhole vs. the Centauri-made jumpgate). • Both stations were used to foster peace between former enemies following a terrible war (the Bajoran-Cardassian conflict vs. the Earth-Minbari War), and were intended as a stopping-off point for diplomats, merchants, smugglers, and other travelers. • Both stations were administered by an Earth-based government (the Federation vs. the Earth Alliance), but were located outside Earth’s solar system (Bajor vs. Epsilon III). • Both stations contained a marketplace for commercial activity that included bars, restaurants, and casinos (the Promenade vs. the Zócalo), as well as holographic sex joints (holosuites vs. a holobrothel). • Both stations received massive weapons upgrades approximately mid-series, and later formed alliances with several formerly competing species in order to win a galactic conflict (the Dominion War vs. the Shadow War). • Both stations had a security force composed of fighters from two formerly non-aligned governments (Starfleet and Bajor vs. Earth and Narn). • Both stations included sections deemed dangerous that were no longer used by their owners (the damaged levels of DS9 vs. Down Below).

  • @Cailus3542

    @Cailus3542

    4 жыл бұрын

    eDDy L And both shows were fundamentally different. You can try to find similarities all day, but the differences between the shows were substantial. They focused on different themes, had very different characters, were set in very different universes, had different overarching villains, had completely different aesthetics, told very different stories, etc. Besides the basic premise (and even then, DS9 and Babylon 5 aren’t the same at all), Babylon 5 and Deep Space Nine had little in common besides fantastic storytelling.

  • @duncanbuchanan3269
    @duncanbuchanan32696 жыл бұрын

    This episode also features the finest quote and moment by Delenn. “If you value your lives. Be somewhere else!'

  • @toatahu2003

    @toatahu2003

    5 жыл бұрын

    "This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw, or be destroyed." "Negative. We have authority here. Do not force us to engage your ship." "Why not? Only ONE human captain has survived a battle with a Minbari fleet. HE is behind me, YOU are in front of me. If you value your lives, *be somewhere else.* "

  • @flapjackboy

    @flapjackboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@toatahu2003 Brown Alert on the EA ships.

  • @Zaluskowsky

    @Zaluskowsky

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@flapjackboy Wet Brown Alert

  • @josephamendolea3431

    @josephamendolea3431

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Zaluskowsky Shart Alert maybe? LOL! Although to be fair those Omega-class destroyers could lock onto Minbari ships (according to the Babylon 5 fandom wiki) and also had some pretty devastating beam weaponry...probably lower-powered version of the particle cannons on the Earth orbital defense satellites...so a second battle with Minbari forces might not have been as one-sided as it was during the Earth-Minbari War...though would probably have been a war of attrition as I imagine Minbari Sharlin-class ships could still turn EA ships into Swiss cheese or worse with just a couple of direct hits and probably also had the advantage of longer firing range...and with a rebellion on their hands I imagine Clark could ill afford fighting on 2 fronts (rebels on one side and Minbari support for said rebels on the other) so I imagine that's probably why they really got out of there

  • @Zaluskowsky

    @Zaluskowsky

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shart Alert made my day lol

  • @justanotherlikeyou
    @justanotherlikeyou5 жыл бұрын

    It's truly impossible to overstate how amazing this show was

  • @drewstar412
    @drewstar4125 жыл бұрын

    Very cool to have Bruce McGill on this ep. Wish he had a longer role. Wonder if his character had interaction with Vir(Stephen Furst)..both of Animal House Fame...Brilliant Actors!

  • @CaptEoNinja83
    @CaptEoNinja837 жыл бұрын

    Newscaster Rick is my hero in this clip. He tried to get the truth out for as long as he could.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    Like Julian Assange and Gonzalo Lira.

  • @ghosty918

    @ghosty918

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@tatianalyulkin410 dont compare Gonzalo Lira to those two. Hes a moron, a liar, and a sex tourist turned russian collaborator.

  • @Blakblooded
    @Blakblooded4 жыл бұрын

    Severed Dreams was absolutely the best episode of this show, with a lot of contenders.

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot4202 жыл бұрын

    The hesitation in Ivanova's voice says everything you need to know about how serious this was.

  • @magiccola7722
    @magiccola77228 жыл бұрын

    God this makes me remember how much I enjoyed/enjoy B5. Even the little details, like ISN being in Geneva, Switzerland, the traditionally neutral state, yet even they are attacked. The camera shot covering Sheridan, giving a feeling of his emotional state as he takes in bad news after bad news, showing how alone he is figuratively and literally. Even Franklin's choice to fight being stated quieter than the other officers.

  • @g.waldmeister1851

    @g.waldmeister1851

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not a coincidence that Geneva is the location of EarthGov. The League of Nations was located in Geneva and today it is home to the biggest United Nations office outside New York City. Geneva has a history of global efforts so I think it was picked for a good reason both in-universe and in the real world.

  • @TheEmpressReborn

    @TheEmpressReborn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, Franklin's a doctor. He's going against his principles as a doctor for something greater.

  • @shaggycan

    @shaggycan

    Жыл бұрын

    They got that camera move from JAWs

  • @KesselRunner606
    @KesselRunner6065 жыл бұрын

    Personally my #1 favourite B5 episode. Great action and drama. Real risks and stakes for characters you'd followed loyally and cared for. A battle scene that that utilised strategy and tactics, rather than someone shouting "FIRE!" and a control panel blowing a fuse. But more significantly, this was the episode where Babylon 5 grew up and stepped from under the Star Trek shadow and became a truly great sci-fi drama in its own right. Forever and always, our last best hope.

  • @DanBarry851

    @DanBarry851

    10 ай бұрын

    I have always considered this to be the final episode in a 3 parter. The story arc of all this begins in "Messages from Earth".

  • @fuzzblightyear145

    @fuzzblightyear145

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DanBarry851 i remember seeing tghis back in the air. had goosebumps from the sudden tone shift.

  • @Canaris3
    @Canaris37 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact : the reporter reaction to falling debris at 1:02 is real, it wasn't suppose to fall so close to her :D

  • @tenhirankei

    @tenhirankei

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or she wasn't warned about it?

  • @rowanaforrest9792

    @rowanaforrest9792

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of a hilarious moment in Peter Jackson's "Fellowship of the Ring" movie when the mischievous Merry and Pippin set off Gandalf's prize firework dragon. Somehow the Pippin actor didn't realize that the prop was really going to go off, so when it did he let out an entirely genuine shriek. It was so perfect, they used it in the movie! In the second movie of the trilogy, Viggo (Aragorn) kicked a prop across a field and dropped to his knees with a despairing cry, only part of his cry was quite real because Viggo's toe had just broken.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    4 жыл бұрын

    in a later scene the B5 guns take out a Starfury bomber almost too late, sending Sheridan to the floor and causing part of the set to catch fire. Thing is the fire didn't stop burning and the extra that put out the fire was actually using an extinguisher to put out an actual fire

  • @Canaris3

    @Canaris3

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rowanaforrest9792 dont forget how Aragon actually broke his foot when he kicked the Uruk helmet in the second part ( the one on the battlefield left by Eomer, where they looked for Hobbits ) so that scream of anguish and despair he lets out is actual scream of someone who just broke his foot.

  • @jimhuffman9434

    @jimhuffman9434

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Canaris3 You can't replicate true pain, be it physical or emotional

  • @greyofpta5305
    @greyofpta53057 жыл бұрын

    Greatest sci-fi show in the history of television.

  • @khalidmkhan

    @khalidmkhan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I gave you a thumbs up, but Blake's Seven takes that spot.

  • @Kalenz1234

    @Kalenz1234

    6 жыл бұрын

    Definitely one of the better ones. I'd still put DS9 above it though.

  • @odieonekaraoke

    @odieonekaraoke

    6 жыл бұрын

    DS9 had a great story arc and it is my favorite Star Trek series but..........I thought B5 was a cheesy Star Trek knockoff when it came on.....I caught it at the end of the 2nd season. Hopelessly drowned in the storyline. The writing for B5 was and is off the chain beautiful. The quotes alone send shivers up my spine. The thought of Delenn saying "If you value your life, be somewhere else" and Ivanova saying "I am death incarnate and last living thing you are ever going to see. God sent me." makes me want to go search for a clean pair of underwear. DS9 never left that impression with me.

  • @CCB5er34

    @CCB5er34

    6 жыл бұрын

    TOTALLY AGREE.

  • @rudolftrost3534

    @rudolftrost3534

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ah, a connaiseur.

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan41645 жыл бұрын

    This is one of my favourite Babylon5 episodes. It reminds me of people today opposing all kinds of corruption.

  • @thunberbolttwo3953
    @thunberbolttwo39537 жыл бұрын

    This is why i like Sheridan.He trusted his people to make the right choice.Something President Clark could never do.

  • @TaliaIGhul

    @TaliaIGhul

    5 жыл бұрын

    They were not kiss-asses and would challenge Sheridan openly if they feel he was wrong. That's why he trusted them to do the right thing.

  • @observer2484

    @observer2484

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TaliaIGhul And they did stand against him once in season 2. AND because that time Sheridan acted illegally. Edit: or at least acted very selfish.

  • @SirCraigius
    @SirCraigius7 жыл бұрын

    That's one brave journalist, considering Clark's troops were marching in to arrest them and replace them with his own propaganda broadcasters. He kept reporting the facts till the roof literally came crashing down on them.

  • @timriggins70

    @timriggins70

    6 жыл бұрын

    SirCraigius From what I remember he died after this.

  • @Pantherblack

    @Pantherblack

    5 жыл бұрын

    Real Gs do real things.

  • @RachaelTheFirboldDruid

    @RachaelTheFirboldDruid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @strugglingchildofgod7791

    @strugglingchildofgod7791

    5 жыл бұрын

    remember it wasnt him it was the writers of the show that really said that

  • @vguyver2

    @vguyver2

    5 жыл бұрын

    The fact my main news source is outside the US is telling of the problems reporting factual issues to the general population. Yet even when we do report factual information, there is an air of doubt and distrust. It's a disaster in the making.

  • @balin1920
    @balin19204 жыл бұрын

    The ISN scene is inspired by the TV station in Prague during the 1968 intervention.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    12 күн бұрын

    I thought so.

  • @Pantherblack
    @Pantherblack5 жыл бұрын

    Only a handful of scenes in any tv series ever gave me chills like this.

  • @rng8891
    @rng88915 жыл бұрын

    What I remember, is that when this aired, the fight sequence was the longest CGI scene ever to air on TV. And where I was at it didn't come on until Saturdays at midnight.

  • @kanyefuck7018
    @kanyefuck7018 Жыл бұрын

    That focus pull in Sheridan and determination emerging from a moment of paralysis on Bruce's face has stayed with me for 25 years.

  • @otiscarter1356
    @otiscarter13568 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching this episode for the first time, glued to the T.V. Watching the fire fights, the Earth Marine board parties, etc. Well done JS.

  • @derickennedy6278

    @derickennedy6278

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know! The only times that I left was to either get a snack or use the bathroom!

  • @kurtjk01

    @kurtjk01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@derickennedy6278 Our little viewing party would record, then watch later that night. I still have the VHSes; and if someone needed to get or do something, we'd pause at the commercial break, or fast forward through commercials otherwise. I got kind of expert at popping the play button so that we rejoined just after the last commercial.

  • @andrewthorne3570
    @andrewthorne35706 жыл бұрын

    This episode had one of my favorite lines in B5 "Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari Fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" for someone of the religious cast Delenn can be pretty badass when she needs to be. Probably doesn't help if your threatening her future husband

  • @MandalorV7

    @MandalorV7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Thorne well remember it was her rage that sparked a war that nearly wiped out the human race.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MandalorV7 the tensions were already there, Dukat was the last level headed leader the Minbari had. The religious caste were also the ones who ended the war after realizing Sinclair was Valen's soul in a human body. The warrior caste wanted to fight anyway and despised the surrender.

  • @Elthenar

    @Elthenar

    4 жыл бұрын

    A similar line was in BSG. When Roslin thought that the mutineers had executed Adama, she channeled her inner Delenn for a minute. The line wasn't the same but it had a similar impact. For a schoolteacher Laura Roslin could go hillbilly apeshit with the best of them.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Elthenar she had been President for years at that point and survived similar crises. The flashbacks to Caprica also show her to be a typical politician going up the ladder (though not as sneaky as Zarek). It's likely the first time she herself leads a military action though.

  • @derickennedy6278

    @derickennedy6278

    3 жыл бұрын

    RIP Mira Furlan

  • @eledhwenmare2403
    @eledhwenmare24034 жыл бұрын

    This series doesn’t get the credit it deserves. 2020. Edit-2021. Wait for it.

  • @TwistTimHansel
    @TwistTimHansel5 жыл бұрын

    That metal guitar riff at the unanimous discussion to fight just begs a Sabaton Ballad be made about Sheridan and the battle for Earth.

  • @djolds1
    @djolds110 ай бұрын

    Ironic. Twenty seven years ago this was accepted as thematically realistic. Today, 2023-07-04, everyone would accept that ISN was enthusiastically in Clark's pocket from the word go.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, I'm afraid the situation is deadly serious. But we're still fighting.

  • @olternaut
    @olternaut2 жыл бұрын

    This show had so many vibes and warnings about the future. About a world where to do the right thing meant doing it alone.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes. Still- no regrets. JE SUIS DONBASS!

  • @admiraltee
    @admiraltee6 жыл бұрын

    The best episode of B5 ever. Also, topical then and topical now. B5 for ever.

  • @KneelB4Bacon
    @KneelB4Bacon8 жыл бұрын

    2:01 That camera trick is called a smash zoom (or dolly zoom). Basically, you move the entire camera towards (or away from) the person while at the same time zooming the camera lens in (or out) at the same rate.

  • @jalarasstudios414

    @jalarasstudios414

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Catzilla Yeah, I believe JMS mentions it directly in the commentary. It's mostly used (in my experience) for dramatic reveals to indicate a huge weight or revalation coming smashing down on a character, in this case, Sheridan. Meant to highlight how, despite all their planning and attempts, they've been pushed to take up arms against their own government.

  • @slitor

    @slitor

    7 жыл бұрын

    I had that feel to often while reading the news these past 6 years... I instantly recognize the feeling... Though its not that realistic....it usually includes a truck load of loud profanities.

  • @KrK007

    @KrK007

    7 жыл бұрын

    The use of background music in Babylon5 has also been stellar.

  • @jtsavidge

    @jtsavidge

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KrK007 One might even say the music was interstellar. ;-)

  • @gawainethefirst

    @gawainethefirst

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alfred Hitchcock.

  • @mikeyvester
    @mikeyvester8 жыл бұрын

    There is one absolute and unconditional truth in the universe, Babylon 5 is the greatest television show ever. By the way, I hate Sheldon Cooper's guts because he said Babylon 5 was derivative..

  • @otiscarter1356

    @otiscarter1356

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sheldon Cooper is a candy ass trekie. He is probably the one who gave this clip 5 thumbs down.

  • @slitor

    @slitor

    7 жыл бұрын

    The idiot was probably thinking of DS9, what he does not know was that he approached CBS with the Babytlon 5 pitch and was turned down. Yet they still used the pitch itself. JMS had good grounds for a plagiarism case, but as he said "live and let live"

  • @Minastir1

    @Minastir1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention CBS made a series that was almost as good as the original. It's a good thing JMS let it slide as now we have 2 great series.

  • @davidweihe6052

    @davidweihe6052

    6 жыл бұрын

    Of course, the writer of Casablanca could have had both Star Trek:DS9 and Babylon V up on plagiarism, too, by that theory.

  • @danielperez7476

    @danielperez7476

    5 жыл бұрын

    Babalon 5 the best!!!!!!

  • @modisp
    @modisp4 жыл бұрын

    2:00 I am sure this is portraying Sheridan's fear. For few seconds he was in actual fear. Zoned out by it. But soon he collects himself.

  • @Amann0407

    @Amann0407

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I can tell how horrified he is now that he has to directly fight an overwhelming force in his own government. That he is out of time and even a glimpse of terror realizing how fucked he might be here.

  • @TheBlackSpider82
    @TheBlackSpider822 жыл бұрын

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  • @speedracer1945
    @speedracer19457 жыл бұрын

    Season 3 is one the best seasons , this episode sets up the characters and show in motion as everything hits the fan .

  • @zorkmid1083
    @zorkmid10834 жыл бұрын

    2:47 It's sad that 2 of the 4 people in that room have already passed away.

  • @robertsilva1016
    @robertsilva10162 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the USS Enterprise 1701-D Arriving at Babylon 5

  • @epiendless1128

    @epiendless1128

    7 ай бұрын

    I saw Star Wreck - I don't have to. 🙂

  • @Egobyte83
    @Egobyte837 жыл бұрын

    This is the episode where B5 REALLY started getting good. I mean, yes it was interesting and all before, but this episode just took it all to a whole new level and ushered in a truly epic era.

  • @PackerBronco

    @PackerBronco

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would mark that point with "Coming of Shadows" or maybe Chrysalis.

  • @BrightOranje

    @BrightOranje

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ummm nope. Show was pretty much fantastic starting with the beginning of season 2 through the end of season 4. With few exceptions, there weren't any bad episodes over 3 full seasons.

  • @colin8696908
    @colin86969084 жыл бұрын

    Still relevant in 2019.

  • @bthsr7113

    @bthsr7113

    4 жыл бұрын

    Worryingly so.

  • @seldonwright4345

    @seldonwright4345

    4 жыл бұрын

    2020 here. Still that way only worse

  • @thomasbaagaard

    @thomasbaagaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    And 2020... We can only hope the US military start saying remembering Their oaths and say NO to the dictator wannabe in the whitehouse...

  • @ianmarchaj6173

    @ianmarchaj6173

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thomasbaagaard You mean the ones stationed in Washington DC protecting the "Most Popular President and Legislature"

  • @stevedellinger4927

    @stevedellinger4927

    2 жыл бұрын

    And in 2022.

  • @mountainstartemple6041
    @mountainstartemple60416 жыл бұрын

    poor moustache reporter guy .... probably got detained and tortured after his unofficial news-flash

  • @TheBishopconrad

    @TheBishopconrad

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sleipnir Blue likely executed

  • @hagamapama

    @hagamapama

    5 жыл бұрын

    When you do real journalism rather than state-approved soundbites, that's a risk you take.

  • @CharlesUrban

    @CharlesUrban

    5 жыл бұрын

    "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it any more!"

  • @mattcannon6148

    @mattcannon6148

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hagamapama yup #alexjones

  • @oldfrend

    @oldfrend

    5 жыл бұрын

    as far as i know he never showed up again. too bad - the lady came back on the air after the war, but i wish they could've at least said something about his fate. he had the courage to stand up when no one else did, not even her.

  • @ghfun1
    @ghfun18 жыл бұрын

    IMHO this is the best Babylon 5 episode I remember watching this and couldn't get up from the couch

  • @derickennedy6278

    @derickennedy6278

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too. I was glued to my seat the entire time!

  • @modisp

    @modisp

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is by many one of best. This is turning point of whole plot line. No Babylon 5 meant no victory against ancient races. And it was executed beautifully.

  • @therealavenger5850

    @therealavenger5850

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then Delenn's entrance to save the station was truly an epic moment.

  • @Oliver-nz6cr
    @Oliver-nz6cr4 жыл бұрын

    Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica and SG-1 6 or 7 seasons were so good because they took themselves seriously. Most scifi and fantasy series are lighthearted flicks. Need more such shows!

  • @NovaHessia
    @NovaHessia11 жыл бұрын

    He had no authority to keep somebody on their post or not. He could petition higher authorities to get some people redeployed, but that's it. No, what the scene shows is that Sheridan is indeed willing to let everybody choose for themselves. Had somebody voted to surrender, he would simply have let them go, most likely. Had all three voted to surrender, he most likely would have. He knew the chance of that was rather low, though. I mean, can you imagine Ivanova surrendering? Yeah, right... :)

  • @flybeep1661
    @flybeep16614 жыл бұрын

    2:02 nice dolly zoom shot. You don't see that often on television, it's more a movie thing. Zooming out while moving in on a dolly, synchronized well it makes it look like the background retracts while the center focus remains unmoved.

  • @danielbradshaw2987
    @danielbradshaw2987 Жыл бұрын

    I love how the news anchor takes a second to realise what the guy just said.

  • @MichaelJohnson-
    @MichaelJohnson- Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing show....

  • @KentheDeer
    @KentheDeer3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Captain Braxton not only travels trough time but can jump realities as well!

  • @brettmciver432
    @brettmciver4324 жыл бұрын

    Who here wants an updated reimaged b5? Just the cgi I'm talking about keep the rest as you can't perfect perfection.

  • @enderend1551
    @enderend1551 Жыл бұрын

    Sheridan never expected any other answer from his crew other than fight and you can see it from his smirk.

  • @robertroonok1701
    @robertroonok17015 жыл бұрын

    I watched Star Trek on NBC when it first started. I watched Doctor Who on PBS since 1975. I watched the first Battlestar Galactica. Star Wars in 1977. Babylon 5 was the best Science Fiction even with it's limited budget and network support... I stand by that opinion even today. Loved it...

  • @ConorLawler
    @ConorLawler2 жыл бұрын

    The greatest sci-fi show of all time 💜💚

  • @fredlandry6170
    @fredlandry61703 жыл бұрын

    One of the best episodes of the series. I always liked the Earth Alliance uniforms they were the best uniforms in Sci Fi I think.

  • @Jarvis-MkII
    @Jarvis-MkII2 жыл бұрын

    That camera work when Sheridan raises he has to act.... I loved this series back then but I appreciate it even more these crazy days!

  • @mrmrsgamer6938
    @mrmrsgamer69384 жыл бұрын

    i always loved this arc, brilliant writing and acting

  • @Wenchework
    @Wenchework3 жыл бұрын

    Thats Jack Dalton right there lol,this seen just shows they casted right and just showes how virsetile he is

  • @user-bl4mu1nv5l
    @user-bl4mu1nv5l22 күн бұрын

    When you're back is against the wall what other choice do you have but to Fight!

  • @jamieolberding7731
    @jamieolberding77316 жыл бұрын

    "Four hundred years ago, a victorious general spoke the following words at the end of another costly war: 'Today the guns are silent. A great tragedy has ended… we have known the bitterness of defeat and the exultation of triumph, and from both we have learned there can be no going back. We must move forward to preserve in peace what we've won in war'." - Federation Admiral William Ross, quoting Douglas MacArthur ("Star Trek: DS9" season 7 episode What You Leave Behind")"

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like a sick joke in 2024.

  • @tilasole3252
    @tilasole32526 ай бұрын

    Good thing that mic boom was there... every time he turned his head while still speaking and did not bring the mic he was holding with him, but he was still perfectly heard had my OCD acting up 😅

  • @PackerBronco
    @PackerBronco4 жыл бұрын

    This moment is the culmination of 2 and half seasons of meticulous story-telling with the stakes slowly and inexorably ratcheting up until there is no longer hope of escape. Severed Dreams more than paid off.

  • @Fr3k3
    @Fr3k34 жыл бұрын

    the sets in this show are just absolutely brilliant.

  • @penningtonknickernacker921
    @penningtonknickernacker9216 ай бұрын

    Girabaldi with the best scene in the entire series. "Alright we'll hold 'em here... ah crap!" as the Narn all run past him.

  • @rowanaforrest9792
    @rowanaforrest979221 күн бұрын

    Love this show! This scene is so powerful, it just crackles like a thunder and lightning storm!

  • @manemperorofmankind8119
    @manemperorofmankind81194 жыл бұрын

    This was such a great show, I miss it

  • @Theomite
    @Theomite5 жыл бұрын

    Season 4 is so fucking prescient to this day and age it's almost pants-pissingly scary.

  • @carlousmagus5387
    @carlousmagus53872 жыл бұрын

    He's a damn good Captain, the equal to any Captain on Star Trek.

  • @rorymcclernon4674
    @rorymcclernon46744 жыл бұрын

    This show was fantastic

  • @ThePathStrider
    @ThePathStrider7 жыл бұрын

    And at 2:00, Sheridan realises he just ran out of time.

  • @rconway1357
    @rconway13575 ай бұрын

    EPIC….i remember watching this with my mouth open glued to the TV. Amazing.

  • @PeoplesGeneral
    @PeoplesGeneral11 жыл бұрын

    I wish/hope that if something like this happens in real life, there will be journalists, local/state government officials, and military personnel who'll stand up against tyranny.

  • @2QRh6g1I

    @2QRh6g1I

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps yes. Sadly there are also those who would support tyranny in the name of the "greater good". Regimes like the First Order, Nightwatch, etc don't just come from thin air. Real life examples include Nazi Germany. It has happened before, it is happening now. It will surely happen again.

  • @rng8891

    @rng8891

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@2QRh6g1I Yes, like Alicia Ocasio Cortex threatening those of her own party if they don't agree with her values. Truly disturbingly sad............

  • @tomisabum
    @tomisabum5 жыл бұрын

    Been cool to see people get into this show again in recent years.

  • @jackiemoorman7483
    @jackiemoorman74835 жыл бұрын

    These were some of the best episodes😁🤣😃😆😎

  • @johnflores1723
    @johnflores17235 ай бұрын

    One of the things I liked about B5 is that it resembles reality. True in the 90’s, true today.

  • @jaykirk73
    @jaykirk739 жыл бұрын

    History has shown that when people give there government too much power stuff like this usually happens.

  • @petrameyer1121

    @petrameyer1121

    9 жыл бұрын

    Spoken like a paranoid american.

  • @hagamapama

    @hagamapama

    9 жыл бұрын

    Petra Meyer Because it's not like Europe had its share of problems with runaway dictators or anything. Forget the horrors of imperialist monarchs from centures ago -- hundreds of millions of people died in the 20th century alone because Europeans couldn't help but empower men and governments that didn't deserve it. And this is somehow an American problem? Get your priorities straight, seriously. At least some Americans realize WHY this was a problem and WHY empowering dictators like Hitler, Moussolini, Stalin, etc, and even the people who feel the same way but are savvy enough or weak enough to try to enforce their policies by salesmanship and shysterism rather than force of will, wound up resulting in the consequences that it did, and that it wasn't all the fault of those men and their cronies. If you give your government power uncritically, it will use that power uncritically. That's basic human nature. The American philosophy on such matters is that the correct solution to imbalanced government is vigilance against imbalanced government before the imbalance becomes critical enough that people start dying. Stop a pebble, stop a landslide. It's worked for us, more or less, for 200 years. A few hiccups, one major sociopolitical disaster, no European nation has a track record that good over the same time period. Then again Europeans seem to prefer to be a bit more uncritical and wait until they have landslides to stop, or even landslides to clean up after.

  • @hagamapama

    @hagamapama

    9 жыл бұрын

    I'd say there's a sufficient difference between acts of individuals in direct contradiction to their orders, such as My Lai, and some of the absolute brutality experienced by the colonial subjects of the European powers and explicitly sanctioned by them, most notably in the Kongo and India.

  • @saquist

    @saquist

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** Or The Tuskegee Syphilis Study...I just found out about this.

  • @biocapsule7311

    @biocapsule7311

    8 жыл бұрын

    Jason Kyer Actually... no, history has shown us that corruption of power is cyclical and to simplify it to a matter of people vs government is juvenile at best. Since it's never just the government and the people... it's almost always the balance of power between many. Even medieval Europe... the struggle of power are between monarchy, the church, the aristocracy, the independently wealthy great families not considered nobles and lastly the people with the least power but greatest in number and even the people are many minds. One can say Hitler was 'given' power... but at the time, a large amount of the 'people' are of similar mind. Which is why American conservative tended to bitch about "small" government until it comes to whatever draconian policies they want the government to implement... Chinese history is a long line of emperors but it still went thru cyclical wax & wane... because much depends on who the leaders of men are. To think it so simplistic as your statement is to forget that government (and all other powers that tend to be forgotten) are people too. And to forget that... when you truly are a democracy, the government IS the means in which the people exercise their power. It is often said that the American remove the rule of their monarch... but forgot about the aristocracy. And til these day... they still talk as if it's the government vs people while forgetting the corporation, the special interest and the individual organizations within & beyond the government all have their own agenda. Remember in the show, aside from Earth government... there's the Psi-corp, the mega-corporations. All with their own agendas.

  • @pascalrottier4783
    @pascalrottier478315 күн бұрын

    What's really cool is that this is exactly the middle episode of the series. It's also the key tipping point in the entire story arc.

  • @cepson
    @cepson9 жыл бұрын

    Ramming speeeed! Sorry, I always think of that when I see that guy.

  • @RPS34V

    @RPS34V

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** sheridan

  • @geoffwilliams4478

    @geoffwilliams4478

    6 жыл бұрын

    D-Daaaaaaay!

  • @MrAlumni72

    @MrAlumni72

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sheriff Dean Farley.

  • @Sean12248
    @Sean1224810 жыл бұрын

    + William Signs. Lol I looooove the Babylon 5 storyline it's .....was so far ahead of it's time. It's more realevent to our own time now. God I wish WB would reair the episodes!

  • @whitemanstand72

    @whitemanstand72

    9 жыл бұрын

    They won't for excatly that reason

  • @modisp

    @modisp

    6 жыл бұрын

    Amazon prime picked it to air :)

  • @Palmerrip

    @Palmerrip

    5 жыл бұрын

    They won't it's too conservative for our time. Unless the show preached gay rights and the liberal agenda the major networks will let B5 fade into obsecurity.

  • @quinnsinclair7028

    @quinnsinclair7028

    5 жыл бұрын

    Palmerrip Well Ivanava and Talia definably had romantic relationship and some of themes the show revolves around can’t exactly get more liberal so no worries.

  • @TheJSpiegel
    @TheJSpiegel3 ай бұрын

    Love this ISN scene with the one reporter trying to get the truth out to the last minute…

  • @rowanaforrest9792

    @rowanaforrest9792

    21 күн бұрын

    Superb writing and acting for both reporters! This episode won the prestigious Hugo Award, and the entire series won I think a Saturn Award. (The lady's reaction to the debris falling wasn't entirely acting, because it wasn't supposed to fall so close to them.)

  • @johnorrells3797
    @johnorrells37972 ай бұрын

    Best SiFi series ever made in my way of thinking. The special effects were superb.

  • @KrK007
    @KrK0077 жыл бұрын

    One of the most important and action packed episodes of Babylon 5. The gloves come off in this episode.

  • @derickennedy6278

    @derickennedy6278

    6 жыл бұрын

    More like a turning point in the series itself!

  • @juanblanch8705
    @juanblanch8705 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing acting. WOW

  • @jimstevens5692
    @jimstevens56926 ай бұрын

    Such a good show!

  • @autoduck
    @autoduck10 жыл бұрын

    Hugo award winning episode.

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    Gee, I wonder why. I know JMS identifies as a Russian anti Putin " Loyalist " but is my mentor even 30% sure that there is not some Ukrainian blood on his Polish side? Because he did predict the future.

  • @nbartlett6538
    @nbartlett65386 жыл бұрын

    Great use of the Vertigo effect at 2:01

  • @mountainstartemple6041
    @mountainstartemple60415 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what happened to Rick ... quite a heroic stance to proclaim the real news

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    He probably shared the fate of Gonzalo Lira.

  • @goshido100
    @goshido1005 жыл бұрын

    love that series

  • @danielmead146
    @danielmead1464 жыл бұрын

    nice outdoor chairs

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover35799 ай бұрын

    At this point in the world, it feels very prophetic.

  • @jamieolberding7731
    @jamieolberding77316 жыл бұрын

    Sheridan and his followers who are doing everything to keep the peace remind me of the "United Federation of Planets" while President Clark and his followers remind me of the ruthless, Evil, merciless, non negotiable "Terran Empire!"

  • @tatianalyulkin410

    @tatianalyulkin410

    Ай бұрын

    Darling, for God's sake grow up. There is no such thing as " evil ".

  • @Roycesraphim1
    @Roycesraphim16 жыл бұрын

    The aliens when the biggest players start collapsing into civil war....

  • @mauriziopuddu4734
    @mauriziopuddu47344 жыл бұрын

    I love the microphone of the man.

  • @loubloom8749
    @loubloom87492 жыл бұрын

    Love the last part of that scene.

  • @juliankirby9880
    @juliankirby98803 жыл бұрын

    Having started watching this show as an adult, I regret not getting into it as a kid because “I was into to many fictions, I can’t handle another one”

  • @abraxas365
    @abraxas3654 жыл бұрын

    Susan: "The other governments won't stand for it." Major Ryan: "They won't intervene." At the time, the Narn were decimated, the Centauri were at war with everyone in the League of Non-Aligned Worlds, the Minbari Grey Council was feuding and the Vorlons didn't give a fuck. It was bleak.

  • @doom7ish

    @doom7ish

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @peterstewart7332

    @peterstewart7332

    3 жыл бұрын

    "They won't intervene. All the major powers are divided, distracted, busy with their own wars. We're on our own." Think Delenn might have something to say about that one Major Ryan.

  • @1femalegeek

    @1femalegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterstewart7332 To be fair, Major Ryan didn't know what Delenn was doing at the time

  • @Coolman13355

    @Coolman13355

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterstewart7332 At the time he was right about the Minbari. Delenn had to cut through the crud.

  • @josephmaryland9138
    @josephmaryland91386 ай бұрын

    I miss it as well!

  • @ivucica
    @ivucica5 жыл бұрын

    Captain Braxton!

  • @manwiththeredface7821
    @manwiththeredface7821 Жыл бұрын

    Rick could easily be the new "Imma let you finish" meme.

  • @simonwillis1529
    @simonwillis15295 жыл бұрын

    Your in Sheridan’s position that choice you have right there man that’s deep

  • @SpockBorg5
    @SpockBorg5 Жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite episodes, just wish the great machine of epsilon 3 had been utilized.

  • @ConorLawler
    @ConorLawler2 жыл бұрын

    The greatest tv show of all time 💚💜

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