Is it America?

@jurgnobs1308

2 жыл бұрын

but "merica" could get confused with the kingdom of mercia, at least in writing. very complicated "issue"! what really annoys me is when people call the EU "europe" or EU citizens "europeans" though. but maybe that's just me being swiss (and not in the EU)

@ethanol1586

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurgnobs1308 I believe it's actually called "murica"

@flyingeagle3898

2 жыл бұрын

Canadians and other English speakers don't usually care much, but if you tell a person from Latin America you are from "America" they are likely to be very offended partly due to the way their education works, and partly due to the fact they are likely a native Spanish or Portuguese speaker and don't understand that English doesn't have a great alternative name. Also, the Chinese thing is complete bull. I think lots of other people really did make it to America but the specific theory of 1421 doesn't make a lick of sense and no Chinese scholars advocated it because the Chinese voyages of Zheng He are documented and all headed in the opposite direction (towards Indonesia the Indian ocean, Arabia, and the east coast of Africa).

@GuildsmanPirate

2 жыл бұрын

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@RodolfoGaming

2 жыл бұрын

petition to call americans vespuccians.

To answer your questions: 1. Everyone who is not based in the USA call them Cray-ons ( two syllables!). 2. American mustard is so-called because it is very different from both French and English mustards. French mustards are usually not yellow and contain seeds whereas English mustards are much stronger and pungent. American mustard is so mild that it is little more than a yellow ketchup.

@ashepherd6256

10 ай бұрын

Yup! In Canada, we also call them Cray-Ons (two syllables) and of course we also embrace the many different kinds of mustards (french, english and of course the yellow ketchup mild version.) Depending upon what I am garnishing with the yellow condiment, I will select the appropriate version.

@ikke12345

10 ай бұрын

Moutarde de Dijon, tends to disagree

@thomasmacdiarmid8251

10 ай бұрын

1. I have almost always heard crayons as two syllables, often with more of a schwa instead of the o. I have lived mostly in the SE USA.

@thedivinemrm5832

10 ай бұрын

Americans: "English food is so bland. Where's the flavour?" The English: "Meet my Colman's"

@Aoderic

2 ай бұрын

@@ikke12345 Yes Dijon mustards can be quite sharp

If you are going for historical spin, the longitude problem, how triangles shrinked France, the map that saved most lives and British county names are the most historical of them. Also, who owns Antarctica. I’d recommend the longitude first, but that’s up to patrons.

@kaledmasterme

2 жыл бұрын

The one about Bir Tawil is good, the one about gaps in maps, enclaves and borders too

YESSSS, more map men please, they are toooo good!

@AlBarzUK

2 ай бұрын

He does miss most of the jokes. MapMen are sooooo clever at filling their vids with nuance and fun memes.

The problem isn't people saying they are Americans, the problem is people saying they are from America, and then they get prissy when you ask "which part".

@america1832

Жыл бұрын

AMERICA is a CONTINENT made up of 35 countries and more than 1000 million inhabitants poor stupid ignorant people are pitiful

@WhereMyCountryLies

9 ай бұрын

yeah, because USA think's it's the center of the earth.

@CaptainAmerica001

6 ай бұрын

The problem is when individuals claim America is a country, therefore 'American' is a citizenship so to them, that means they're the only Americans!

I'm in California and never heard "crayon" pronounced as "cran." We've always said "cray-on."

@Merennulli

2 жыл бұрын

Here in Missouri, I've heard "cray-un" (could also be interpreted as "cray'n", it's just the "o" being squeezed out) and rarely "crown", but it's "cray-on" for most. I also have friends and relatives further south and a lot of exposure to southern dialects where I'm used to expecting that kind of reductive linguistic drift, I've never heard "cran" before this video. Maybe it's a northeastern coast thing?

@mrsumo1

2 жыл бұрын

Here in New York it is also a "cray-on" ... never heard of a "cran"

@kamds0140

2 жыл бұрын

Canadian here it's always been said cray-on here

@ephraimboateng5239

2 жыл бұрын

same in Quebec, both in french and english

@enowilson

2 жыл бұрын

The word "crayon" comes from French, and they pronounce it "crey-ong", so the letter "a" is pronounced as an "e" as in "let".

For the sake of Terry and anyone else, here are a couple of the British references here at 16:52: "Woking" is a large town to the South West of London. Technically in the county of Surrey it's about 20 mins away by train to central London so it's very much Commuter town. H.G Wells's "War of the Worlds" is set in that general area. "Bradley Walsh" a celebrity with a long career and many appearances on TV including the UK version of Law and Order!

@LorisTheUntethered

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget "Our Graham" referencing the legendary Cilla Black on Blind Date. Easily the most esoteric reference.

@Isleofskye

2 жыл бұрын

FUN FACT...My old Boss: David Andrews lived in Woking.

@mysteryshrimp

Жыл бұрын

Late, but Jay flirts with being a "train guy", so the United States of Sub-par Railroads joke (USSR) is so good.

6:44 to Answer your question yes. From South Dakota here and most people I know do say Crayon like Cray on

I'm from Québec and in French, although we often say "Américain", we do sometimes use "États-Uniens" (United Staters) to speak of the citizens of the United States in certain context.

@andrelee7081

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, as an American my French teacher used to always tell us were "États-Unien" and not "Américain", but I was always confused since my friends from France were very angry whenever I called myself anything other than "Américain" XD I do not think any other terms for us have gone over very well there lol

@ephraimboateng5239

2 жыл бұрын

yup thats true

@Karen-pk3uv

2 жыл бұрын

What's the "certain context" you are referring to?

@darrellmarcks6304

2 жыл бұрын

That's because the French culture of Canuckistan have different slang than mainland Franks. I grew up calling my grandparents certain french names that old people in France would be very mad to be called... but in that isolated French culture, language and meanings change, much like American English vrs Queens English or Espania Spanish vrs Latin American Spanish

@xTirppa

2 жыл бұрын

In Finland we have two very similar ways to call USA Citizens, that I'm aware of. "Amerikkalainen", American and "Yhdysvaltalainen", United Stater.

"They know that Asia doesn't go thousands more miles east" The not-obscure map based on Marco Polo's travels does show Asia as being that large, because Marco Polo's travels are written by the time it took to do things, not the distance travelled (and he was a slow traveller), causing the *calculation* of Asia's size to be way off from reality. Where he landed lines up roughly with the expected location of the mythical land of gold Zipangu, which is now referred to as El Dorado and is actually Japan. When explorers found the mainland and saw that it wasn't China, they thought *that* must be Zipangu (El Dorado) and that's how the famous gold hunt began

@kronop8884

2 жыл бұрын

While they may not have known the actual size of Asia, they had a pretty accurate idea of the size of the Earth, Africa and the distance by the eastern route to Asia so thay should have been able to figure out that it was unlikely that the new lands where part of the asian continent. In the third century BCE, Eratosthenes, a Greek librarian in Alexandria, Egypt, determined the earth's circumference to be 40,250 to 45,900 kilometers (25,000 to 28,500 miles) by comparing the Sun's relative position at two different locations on the earth's surface. And others had come to similar numbers well before that.

@gianb3952

2 жыл бұрын

Umm excuse me but isn't El Dorado supposed to be in America?

@kronop8884

2 жыл бұрын

@@gianb3952 Yes, Zipangu is a diffrent mythical story about a land of immense riches. El Dorado in South America explicitly is about a gilded man ritual. Eventually Eldorado came to mean an entire fabulous country of gold, with legendary cities named Manoa and Omagua.

@windhelmguard5295

10 ай бұрын

@@kronop8884 ah yes the land of immense riches... so rich that timber was a valuable commodity.

As an English person, I can honestly say I've never said "crayn", I've always pronounced crayon as "cray - on".

Does anyone say crayons with 2 syllables? Yes... The whole of the UK for starters...

"Apalachia? No, that's a specific region!" he says to defend using a nonspecific name for a specific region...

not only spanish, portuguese and i think italian as well. I head the name of Mexico is "united states of Mexico" or "estados unidos mexicanos". but the name "mexico" came from the "mexicas" that was how the aztecs call themselfs, i believe. Here in Brazil i learned that all this land is america and is subdivided in 3 parts: South, Central and North. But the map men also has a very good video that explains why is dificult to define exacly whats is a continent. Like what we use to divide them. I recomend that one.

@dawnpalacios8312

2 жыл бұрын

I do not recommend it. I like the two continent divide. North and South America.

@Boseibert

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawnpalacios8312 and the central? 🤔 And you don't recomend It because .. you don't like it? And if i say that i recomend It because i like It? I think the true os that It don't really manter. I'm gonna call the continent Vesputia lol

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawnpalacios8312 no central american would ever recognize itself as north american, it makes no sense. THe only division that make sense is america as the continent (because any other way the word "america" has no right to be used for stuff like "latin america" , "anglo america" and others). And the subdivisions of north, south and central american, to correspond with the rougly, the continental plates. Just like india or arabia are not contiennts, but at best subcontinents.

@luke_cohen1

2 жыл бұрын

Continents are based on geological history not geographical history. There's two continents that make up the America's and it's all due to the breakup of Pangea which broke into a northern half and a southern half. North America was part of the north and was connected to Europe while South America was part of the south and was connected to Africa. After the two continents split away from their respective supercontinents and began drifting towards East Asia, They would join together after formation of the Isthmus of Panama. They are two distinct continents but they're connected by a land bridge (much like the Bering Strait was a land bridge during the Ice Age) or how the Sinai connects Africa and Asia.

@Boseibert

2 жыл бұрын

@@luke_cohen1 There are a lot of different definitions of what a continent is and none are accepted by 100% of the... official continent definers, whoever they are. New Zealand is technically part of a continent of its own, if by certain geographical definitions. Would Europe and Asia be Eurasia? Some put Africa together forming Afroeurasia. Choose your preferred setting.

The reason why the United States got its name was because the people of the time from its Inception were used to calling it The United colonies in North America and renamed it the United States of America, they changed it to that in a quick haste when they were doing negotiations with both France and Britain. When it comes to name changes there were two proposed names that could have been use instead but one after Gran Colombia gained Independence Columbia was not an option anymore and the second one called Fredonia was stalled to death and was also used as a point of mockery for the overly patriotic.

@Skyte100

2 жыл бұрын

And the reason its called America now is because the other names to long for anyone to bother with lol.

@steelbear2063

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skyte100 I mean the USA is the only country in Americas to literally have the word America in its name, so I mean

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

@@steelbear2063 thats a dumb argument, are only south africans africans?, you are not america!

@retrowave69

2 жыл бұрын

@@cseijifja i don't get why people are so upset by it though. We should be allowed to claim that name. We are the sole superpower of the world after all.

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrowave69 that's not how it works mate, if having a big military is all it takes then china is "asia" , france is "europe", and south africa is "africa", not even in theri wildest dreams swould they be able to claim the name. Not evne fucking rome called itself europe, and rome was comrpatively mightier, larger, more impactfull adn lasted far longer than the us has or will.

“Crayon” has two syllables. Remember, most English-speakers in the world are not from the United States. Indeed, many Americans also pronounce it “cray-on”. Depends from what part of your country you hail, I imagine. You are right though that for Spanish-speakers, “Americano/ Americana” refers to anyone from the Bering Strait down to Tierra Del Fuego. I live in Mexico now, and they refer to someone from the USA as “Estadunidense”. “Map Men” are brilliant. Their videos are very funny, and their accents and humour are quintessentially English. And yes, we learned about Amerigo Vespucci in school… in Ireland!

Theres another video by map men that touches on the why the whole continent concept thing is arbitrary, taught differently in every region and leads to annoying stuff.

There are people who pronounce crayon differently than how it's written? That's news to me. I've watched hundreds of American TV shows, from cartoons to soap operas, and I have never heard anyone say it as 'crans'. You sure that's not just you? Map Men is a fascinating show. Both satirical and educational, they do a good job at teaching you stuff in a fun way. If I had History teachers like them back when I was in school, I might have had a much greater passion for history than I currently have.

@darkwitnesslxx

2 жыл бұрын

American regional dialects are very rarely shown on American TV. Actors a taught to speak General American. Weirdly folks in the UK have Recieved Pronunciation but they proudly display their dialects on TV.

I'm Mexican and I don't really mind people from the US calling themselves AMERICANS, what I do mind though is AMERICANS and CANADIANS not acknowleding that we MEXICANS are also NORTH AMERICANS. It's easy to look at any modern map and accepting that fact. There are very clear cultural differences, granted, but GEOGRAPHICALLY we are not South Americans, we are not Central Americans, we are also NORTH AMERICANS.

@vaudou74

2 жыл бұрын

we, in europe, knows u are north american. (and France has a tiny foot in north america as well)

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

yes , mexico is north america, unfortunately, for them "north america" means "anglo america".

@america1832

Жыл бұрын

AMERICA is a CONTINENT made up of 35 countries and more than 1 billion inhabitants ALL of us born in AMERICA from Canada to Argentina are AMERICANS North America Central America Insular America (Caribbean Islands) and South America are GEOGRAPHICAL REGIONS of CONTINENT AMERICA NORTH AMERICA, as its name indicates, is a GEOGRAPHICAL REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT that is located in the NORTH of the AMERICA CONTINENT and is made up of 3 countries, Canada, the USA, and Mexico, which is not in north Asia. CENTRAL AMERICA as its name indicates is a GEOGRAPHICAL REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT that is located in the CENTER of the AMERICA CONTINENT is not in the center of Africa INSULAR AMERICA, as its name indicates, is a GEOGRAPHICAL REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT ISLAND lands set of ISLANDS of the AMERICA CONTINENT (Caribbean Islands) SOUTH AMERICA as its name indicates is a GEOGRAPHICAL REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT that is located in the SOUTH of the AMERICA CONTINENT is not in the south of Europe LATIN AMERICA, as its name indicates, is a REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT where languages ​​derived from the European language, Latin, are spoken, as well as the European languages ​​SPANISH and PORTUGUESE. HISPANIC AMERICA, as its name indicates, is a REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT where the European language is spoken, SPANISH, the most widely spoken language in AMERICA and by AMERICANS of the 35 countries of AMERICA in 18, SPANISH is spoken with more than 500 million speakers. throughout AMERICA being by far SPANISH the most spoken language in AMERICA and by AMERICANS ANGLO-SAXON AMERICA, as its name indicates, is a REGION of the AMERICA CONTINENT where the European Anglo-Saxon language, ENGLISH, is spoken. Educate yourself and stop consuming counterfeit adulterated garbage made in the USA that DOES NOT EXIST

@someguy729

11 ай бұрын

​@@america1832That's just like your opinion. Continents are only defined by convention. With that said, the most common continent model in the West counts North America and South America as continents, not regions.

@joecrazy9896

10 ай бұрын

Technically, Mexico is in Central America.

Also, fun fact... "Waldseemuller" literally translates to "Forest lake miller" I guess the map maker's family used to be millers for a town on a lake in Germany at some point.

What you do if you don't know something in maps is you draw sea monsters there and write "Here be dragons".

@SuryaBudimansyah

23 күн бұрын

Past people privilage

I'm in a Spanish history group and plenty of people got very angry because we refer to the u.s as America.

@zeplyn-r6

2 жыл бұрын

I've experience a lot of this and it's truly hilarious. They get angry as if AMERICANS care whatsoever.

@alicemilne1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeplyn-r6 Your reaction is also why people from the USA frequently have a reputation for extreme cultural insensitivity.

@zeplyn-r6

2 жыл бұрын

@@alicemilne1444 I don’t care. I simply don’t like hearing entitled Spanish speakers telling us how to use the English language, just as I don’t like how some Americans try to force change within the Spanish language.

@alicemilne1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeplyn-r6 You are not the only people in this world who use the English language. You are perfectly welcome to call yourselves Americans inside the USA, but as soon as you move into international contexts you need to pipe down a bit.

@elvangulley3210

2 жыл бұрын

@@alicemilne1444 no you can kick rocks and get over it in your third world country there's only one America and we are the only ones that can call ourselves Americans

Well I'm from Germany, we use to call citizens of the US of A US-Amerikaner meaning US-Americans. I think this term is quite handy.

I honestly agree with the south Americans because if there's a country and 2 continents called America you're gonna run into a lot of confusion I've noticed like talking about south America as in the states like Texas New Mexico Florida etc. or south America with Columbia Brazil Argentina etc. is bound to cause confusion refering to it that way so I honestly prefer to call the country the US and the continents North and South America respectively and if you wanna say you come from the United States just say "I'm from the US" instead of saying "I'm American" saying a sentence is too long is not valid reasoning to completely dismiss a genuine complaint South American people have brought up and want to discuss a solution for and I honestly find it pretty ridiculous that that's your argument for not being willing to change a bit of language just so other people don't get frustrated every time you say the wrong thing

@elvangulley3210

2 жыл бұрын

They can get over it this is America the only America

@itsaUSBline

2 жыл бұрын

@@elvangulley3210 so South America just doesn't exist? You do understand how silly you sound saying something like that, don't you? Do you also believe that the United States are the only states?

@elvangulley3210

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsaUSBline south America is just that but they aren't Americans and never will be we will continue to call ourselves Americans in all parts of earth and you and all the other people that don't like it can continue to kick rocks

@ivy_angels

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsaUSBline they're from the US don't try to argue with them it's easier to make a compelling argument against a brick wall than that person

@elyisusking3603

2 жыл бұрын

@@elvangulley3210 so South America is not america ? Do you even know that "America" word existed far before the British ever set foot in the NW?

These guys are so good! You should absolutely react to more from them.

Cray-ons in Australia and nearly every other country in the world besides the US. In every country around the world it will be called American mustard. Mustard is actually different in other countries and is too thick to splurt out a squeezy bottle...it is usually spread with a knife.

God I remember some members of a forum using the word "Usonian" for some reason and it puzzled me to hell until I realised that he was referring to the USA, and that *he* was from Peru.

Well. it is a silly argument. For one thing, it was the English who established the custom of calling us “Americans” Short for members of the 13 colonies of North America. For another, no other countries in the Western hemisphere have made a point of calling themselves “Americans” except for the occasions use of the terms for all the inhabitants of the “The Americas: as a general term for the Western Hemisphere. Canadians are quite content to call themselves that, and who among the Truckers now in Ottawa are not proud to do so. Ditto, the Mexicans. The country is the United States of Mexico, with historical allusion to the empire overthrown by the Spaniards. etc.

There was a Bristol born, Welsh merchant called Richard Amerike, who was owner of Cabot's ship the Matthew

Speaking of which, I loved watching these videos and just recently you started coming back in my feed. Great to see yea again =D

In FInland USA is called just United States although the formal form includes the "of America". So Amerikan yhdysvallat or just Yhdysvallat. Talking about just America or someone being American, people will assume you are talking about the whole continent.

I'm Colombian and obviously we use the word America as a continent. Not a country. It happens to be that Spanish and Italians were the "first" Europeans to discover the new world and name it. The name America has stuck since then and when we fought for our independence from the Spaniards, America became a patriotic identity, quite like the great homeland. That's why when the XXI came with the Internet, we found out that Americans actually think their country is the only America, the concept so ludicrous to us that the discussion about this began

I'm a Scot. I met an American guy in Glasgow once who apologised for using the term the United States to describe his homeland. As if he has to specify the United States of Wherever.. I has to tell him to call it whatever he is comfortable with and that anyone objecting was just being picky. United States, USA, America, The States... Whichever one you use we all know where you mean.

@CaptainAmerica001

8 ай бұрын

America is a continent, not a country. Therefore, 'American' is not a nationality or a citizenship, officially. Furthermore,an American is from the Continent of America!

Map Men and Johnny Harris are two of my absolute favourite geography channels on YT. So good.

I love Jay's videos but I don't know if two people from the United Kingdom of England Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland really have the right to complain about the length of our name.

@Dakkapow

2 жыл бұрын

Its the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but your point still stands. The Kingdom of Wales was annexed by the Kingdom of England in the 1500s, the Kingdoms of England and Scotland were combined into the Kingdom of Great Britain in 1707 having been in a personal union before that.

@alicemilne1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dakkapow Wales was never a single kingdom. It had 8 or 9 different kingdoms with a variety of different rulers before it was conquered by Edward I of England in 1282. All that happened in the 1500s was that Wales was finally legally incorporated into England. It has no independent status as a kingdom before then.

@bjiornbjiorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@alicemilne1444 Actually Wales has been ruled by a single king a few times in its history. It's the problem with later labels being pushed backwards onto history. We insist that the kingdom of Gwynedd having overlordship over all of Wales doesn't count as a kingdom of Wales for arbitrary reasons. There have been several rulers known as the king of Wales and, when Owain Gwynedd decided to call himself Prince of Wales rather than King he was actually saying that he was more important than King Edward I of England. Back in those days Prince was still seen in its classical form as a derivation of Princeps, a title held by the Roman Emperors, which was better than being a mere king.

@alicemilne1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@bjiornbjiorn According to John Davies, who is a Welsh historian, the whole of Wales was only ever briefly united as one single kingdom under Gruffydd ap Llywelyn from 1055 to 1063. Saying that there was an overlord called a prince is not the same, especially as - except for Gruffydd - those princes of Wales never ruled over the entire territory that is now Wales. There were overlords in England and Scotland before they became unified as well.

@paulstudley7170

10 ай бұрын

That’s because you are “American”.

It’s been a little bit since I’ve click one of Mr Terry’s videos, but I saw Map Men in the notification and had to

YES! MORE MAP MEN PLEASE! They have GREAT videos.

As a Canadian, I have talked about this with my friends from the USA... It's a good laugh, because even they say "Yeah!!! It's weird!! What should we call ourselves?". I have offered "YouEssAyers" or "United Statesians" or "Miscreants"... They don't really like those three much. A few of them just say "Merkins" until I remind them that 'murkin' is a pubic wig. Sooooooo, yeah, nope. Still working on it!

13:45 In German, for example, it is usually specified as "U.S.-American".

I think this is a good place to point out the concept of a colloquialism. America. Is just that. My degree is in Linguistics, and I can say for sure that there are at least 4 known pronunciations in the United States alone for Crayon. Considering that 2 of those pronunciations have roots in Scots-Irish, I'd say its safe to assume that you also have multiple pronunciations in the UK.

@america1832

Жыл бұрын

AMERICA is a CONTINENT made up of 35 countries and more than 1000 million inhabitants poor stupid ignorant people are pitiful

@CaptainAmerica001

8 ай бұрын

America is a continent, not a country. Therefore, 'American' is not a nationality or a citizenship, officially. Furthermore, an American is from the Continent of America!

I just woke up, and I see a Mr. Terry video was posted 14 mins ago. Reminded me of rolling out of bed and shipping off to school lol

Just a fun fact..... yellow mustard in other countries is called American Mustard and most people will only use it on hamburgers and the occasional hot dog. And most don't even consider it an acceptable mustard. Kind of like american cheese is only used on hamburgers and absolutely nothing else

I expect Map Men to become a regular on this channel, enjoy.

In Spanish, "americano" refers to anything in the Americas, whereas "estadounidense" is someone or something from the US, specifically (as you referred to).

@america1832

Жыл бұрын

AMERICA is a CONTINENT made up of 35 countries and more than 1000 million inhabitants poor stupid ignorant people are pitiful

Never heard of this before. Thank you.

in british columbia we say "cray-ons" - not sure about the rest of the country though. But we also say "pencil crayons" (still fully enunciated) instead of "coloured pencils" which is pure lunacy

@vaudou74

2 жыл бұрын

french word for pencil , 2 syllabs. pencil crayon = pencil pencil :)

You hate to tell you this but I and everyone I know have said “cray-ons” my entire life. I’ve never heard until now anyone pronounce it the way way you did in this video. 😁

Their longitude video is really good and full of interesting history.

I knew some of this, but Vespuchi's PR campaign is news to me. I had been taught it as him having written about the new world as a minor footnote as to why we're not living in the United State of Columbia and had only looked at Vespuchi's voyages and not much else in my own reading about him. But given how badly that part of history was taught to me in school, it's not too surprising. I'd love to know how it's taught in US public school these days (though I'd imagine it varies by state). I grew up while Washington Irving's history fanfics were being taught in school as if they were true. I'm hopeful that has since ended.

@aldocuneo1140

2 жыл бұрын

Bytheway who is Giovanni da Verrazzano ?

@Merennulli

2 жыл бұрын

@@aldocuneo1140 First known European to explore the eastern coast of what would later become the US. If you're suggesting that would be a better Italian figure for Washington Irving to have latched onto, you're not alone.

You should review some videos from the "The Great War" channel. Thorough, exhaustive, entertaining.

The fact that everybody told Columbus his calculations were incorrect and he would die trying to sail to Asia, but he went and did it anyway AND got incredibly lucky truly makes him the first American :D

If you have a chance I’d watch Alexander’s Speech at Opis, it’s amazingly moving

I've always been fond of either Southern Eriksonia or Northern Vespuccia. Both have a nice ring, I think.

I really believe that America wasn't actually named for Vespucci, mainly because it was absolutely unheard of to name a new land after someone's first name, instead of their surname, unless they were royalty. The best candidate in my mind was the Welsh merchant Richard Ap Meryck, (who commonly used the anglicised version "Richard Amerike") who sponsored John Cabot's exploration in 1497. It just makes much more sense because of the use of the man's surname.

@CaptainAmerica001

6 ай бұрын

How about the Amerrisque Mountain range in Nicaragua?

@dansegelov305

6 ай бұрын

@@CaptainAmerica001 . Also perfectly reasonable. Plus, the earliest record of the mountain range in European documentation is on a Map drawn by John Cabot in 1497. Five years before Columbus went to Nicaragua. I imagine it was a combination of both things. But the point is, it was almost definitely not named for Vespucci.

Australians definitely call it caray-ons with two syllables. Maybe the British as well.

@ffotograffydd

6 ай бұрын

Basically everyone who speaks English except for some in the USA.

As a Brazilian, my two cents on the topic is: most people I know don't have a problem to call someone from the USA "American", we do have other word (Estadosunidense), but "americano" is far more common. What we do have a problem is to call the country "America" instead of "United States". One thing that I realize not long ago is that in the USA people are taught there's 2 continents: North and South America, so the whole landmass would be called "The Americas" and therefore no confusion, however in Latin America we are taught that there's only one continent: "America", being North, Central, South and Caribbean subdivisions (like in Europe when you have Northern Europe, Eastern Europe, etc or in Asia with Middle East, Southeast Asia, etc), so for us calling one country with the name of the entire continent is just not cool. I don't think it's something that Americans do to annoy anyone btw, I understand how it came to be as it is, but I think most of the issue comes from this different understanding on how many continents there are between the Pacific and the Atlantic and I don't think it has an easy solution. Also.. despite from how you calling yourselves, not having a word for someone from the entire continent ("America" or "The Americas") is just crazy.

@elvangulley3210

2 жыл бұрын

You guys are obviously wrong it's that simple

@briangonigal3974

2 жыл бұрын

Well, we at least DO have a word for the native peoples of the entire continent: Indians! Oh, but I suppose now you're going to find some obscure technical reason to claim that doesn't actually make sense, either. (Warning: the previous paragraph may contain elements of sarcasm.) (Seriously though, you guys really ARE just full-on wrong about North & South America all being one continent)

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

@@briangonigal3974 why?, continents are made out by cultural, political and historical reasons, the only such line that exists is between the USA and mexico, and evne then , this line is weakers than any national border in europe, if spaina nd england aint two separate continents, why should america be two?, when the usa is so influenced by latin culture? it's foundational, half yoru country is latin since inception,a nd even cultural marks, like cowboys, are hispanic in nature ,there are cowboys from patagonia to alaska. Geography barely matters for anything in the matter of continents, as proof , europe is a continent, why do we sudenyl make up rules for america?, the answer is easy, the USa needs the name for tis own nation building purposes, before the 20th century, the "american" identity was almost non existant, so that another civil war dosent happen, a new name was needed. Coopting "american" from those filthy "unwhite" latin americans was the easy way out.

@okccuster

2 жыл бұрын

As a USA'en. We were taught a number of things: Western Hemisphere, then "The Americas": North, Central, South America. North and South American Continents. I believe Central America is then grouped into the North American Continent, although some maps only include Mexico. Most of the "I'm from America" talk is just informal slang. We are both from The Americans, if you freely choose to call yourself that.

@idk-ye7ur

Жыл бұрын

@@briangonigal3974 Well, you got rekt by the response of "Seii".

"Empanadas are sooo gooood, I could go for some empanadas, ", that was so original, 🤣😇, I mean who would have thought that a random comment would make this vlog even richer in content, love your commentary!!!!

There are many other ways to refer to people from the US, but not all are suitable for polite company. Seppo is one word and fills the need splendidly. And the county could well be called Seppoland.

As a Brit, I call people from the USA USians to distinguish them from other Americans. As a country like the Spanish, I call it the United States.

I am Swedish and I just call it the US. America always been the continent for me.

@0816M3RC

2 жыл бұрын

The continent is North America though..

@ThomasVanhala

2 жыл бұрын

@@0816M3RC yes and no. It depends on how you count continents. Just like like Europe and Asia sometimes is the continent of Eurasia. It is between 7 and 4 continents depending on how it is counted. I perfer to see it as one continent with three areas of North, Central and South. But in my country you normaly learn in school to split America into two continents. But in Spain and France and a few other places it is common to go with America as one continent.

@freewill8218

2 жыл бұрын

Jag kallar det för skithuset :)

@ThomasVanhala

2 жыл бұрын

@@freewill8218 väldigt många länder att dra över samman kant.

@CaptainAmerica001

6 ай бұрын

America is a continent & an American is from the Continent of America.

These guys are hysterical!

In regards to Columbus, he had a decent idea of the circumference of the Earth. It is widely thought Columbus was using the Martellus map. He did take the size as around 18,500 miles but that was likely due to some issues between Roman and Arabic miles. However the main issue was that people at the time thought Asia was much bigger than it was. This was based on the works of Marco Polo, which were fairly poor at describing distance. There was also the longitudinal problem as well. But he was working off of what was considered the best map of the time that showed a much larger Asia. It has also been conjectured that he intentionally underestimated the circumference because the shorter distance would more easily get funding.

In UK English “cray-on” is definitely two syllables lol

What's the problem with "US American" for people from the USA and "American" for people from America in general?

@kennetic9196

2 жыл бұрын

What's the problem with "American" for the US and "North American" or "South American" for everyone else? Want your people to be American? Shoulda named your country first.

I don't object to calling yourself "American". Personally, as an European whoes country is not in the 'European Union' I find it strange when USA citizens refer to Mexican citizens as NOT being American. I don't mind USA citizens calling themselves American, just as French person might call themselves a European, it is the insistence that other countries in the same America are not allowed to use the same term that comes across as arrogance (even if not intended that way). Also I grew up in South Wales but not only did my neighbours call themselves Welsh, they also called people from North Wales as Welsh. The existence of a North and South does not precludes a whole, whether explicit or implied. Region names, often having been coined before an understanding of tectonics, may or may not coincide with continents. Plus if you start getting pedantic with continents, rather than human allocated map names, then San Francisco is arguably on a different continent to most of the rest of the USA. P.S. As I speak native English I say "cray"-"on", though my Welsh neighbours would use the Wenglish "cray"-"un". "Wenglish" is English as spoken by the Welsh with phrases such as "See you tomorrow next week", "now in a minute" and "better than tidy[good], it's half-tidy" I.e. "half-tidy"="very good".

@elvangulley3210

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's good it's not up to you then stay in your European lane

@JRobbySh

2 жыл бұрын

Mexican citizens do not call themselves “ Americans”. To them we are Americanos. The Mexican-Americans refer to us as Anglos. But we are not English.

@JRobbySh

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. But of course Columbus is in disgrace among our Power Elites.

@San_Vito

11 ай бұрын

@@JRobbySh Spaniards referred to native Mexicans, as well as Mexicans from European descent as "americanos" (lower case "a", in Spanish you don't capitalize demonyms) for hundreds of years before the USA was a thing. Maybe it vanished in Mexico due to US-American influence, but in most of Latin America people do consider themselves "americanos". For example, when Ernesto "Che" Guevara left Argentina in the trip that would end with him joining the Cuban commies in Mexico, when he boarded the train to leave his town, his last words to his family were "here goes an soldier from America" (aquí va un soldado de América).

@CaptainAmerica001

6 ай бұрын

America is a continent & an American is from the Continent of America. Concise & factual!

I mean, I too, as a German, understand that there is no word like Unitedstatesian but I still dislike US Americans just calling their country America (disregarding 2/3 of the population of the Americas) bc it feels very self important as in "yeah, all that is some kind of America but we actually matter". That's what it sounds like to me. Not saying it's technically wrong, just saying I dislike and avoid it ^^ Also, I as a geoscientist refer to the continents together as America bc, imo, they are one continuous continent, same as Eurasafrica. But continents are a stupid concept anyways.

@qwertyTRiG

2 жыл бұрын

I've usually heard Afro-Eurasia, not Eurasafrica.

@MellonVegan

2 жыл бұрын

@@qwertyTRiG that does sound better in English 🤔

@kennetic9196

2 жыл бұрын

Blame the British for referring to the colonials as American then.

@San_Vito

11 ай бұрын

@@kennetic9196 That's not true, the most common name to refer to the peoples from the 13 colonies was "colonists". "Americans" started to slowly get widely used only after the independence. You can check the use of the word in the "Declaration of Rights and Grievances" from 1765 or Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" from 1776.

MORE Jay Foreman immediately. Unfinished London is certainly interesting history

Yes, Most of the people I know say crayon, both syllables. From where the English language originated.😊

if you want to learn more about much of latin america, mainly Mexico, react to Kraut's 3 part series on Mexico

Cartographers of the time initially had what is called "the Assumption of Sea". i.e. if nobody has been there yet, they showed it as sea on the map.

America is the entire region, the OAS would agree with the original vlog from MapMen, as they said, Columbus went on to, "discover" America in 1492. For a short time now, I have been reminding people in Social Media who get offended when someone outside of the United States say that they are an American, that these individuals are right, the English speaking world has decided to nickname The United States of it's region, after the name of the region, "America". One can always expect folks in The United States to be offended, and go on the defense, when people tell them that America is not the name of The United States, but it's true, all one would have to do is to go back and check the website of an organization that is more than 100 years old, The OAS (Organization of American States), Which Covers Columbus' so called, West Indies and Caribbean also. As a bit of research you will see who started the OAS and the various reasons why it was formed, the full History, not the version that The United States would have you believe, because even after 100+ years, would still be an embarrassment to The U.S, because their approach and policies towards the other American States, "Countries", are still very self conceited and biased !

The “controversy” around Americans calling themselves Americans is so stupid. There are plenty of words with contextually different meanings.

@zeplyn-r6

2 жыл бұрын

No one should be forcing their will on how other people use their own language, simple as that

@karinland8533

2 жыл бұрын

But it is factually fals and can be mistaken in the context about wich place some one is from or where some one is going. Just call your self US American or from the US. Everything else is ignorant.

@zeplyn-r6

2 жыл бұрын

@@karinland8533 In English we say “the Americas” to describe the continents. I call myself an American, English speakers across the world call us Americans, and many other languages specifically refer to US citizens as their form of “American”. I’ve spent years studying Spanish to accommodate my fellow, albeit new, Americans, not to accommodate whiny Spanish speakers living south of the border. You will never be able to exert your will over Americans, get over it.

@davidbrooks7297

2 жыл бұрын

There is a name for people from the US "Yank", as an aside US doesn't stand for United States, the biggest use is unserviceable!

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeplyn-r6 every romance langauge has a word for the US that is not american, ususally some variation of "united stater". You folk dont even have denonym for half your states, (massachusets are called bay staters, for fucks sake) but "untied stater" or something is too hard?, there is a reason why almost all maps use "united states" for the name of the country, and not america, it's not yorus, never was.

19:57 MapMen specifically said "The English Speaking World" calls USonians (Frank Lloyd Wright's term) "Americans". The Spanish Speaking Americans (not sure about Brazilians) call USonians "norteamericanos" (North Americans).

@america1832

Жыл бұрын

AMERICA is a CONTINENT made up of 35 countries and more than 1000 million inhabitants poor stupid ignorant people are pitiful

I don't know anyone that doesn't say two syllables of crayon. Hard to make fun of Marines if you call them "crans", they don't know that word.

Not sure if this is true, but didn’t most people before the civil war consider themselves a member of the state first? So you would say I am a Texan instead of an American?

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

I still refer to myself as a Texan if asked.

@cseijifja

2 жыл бұрын

yes, the "american" thing was born out of ww1 and two in an effor to make a common idnetity, around teh fifties they made up north and south america so they could techinically keep america for themselves.

Jay forman he actually sings good, I like his "tube station song", he knows a lot. He actually seems to be quiet knowledgeable in some different feilds.

It is worth going back and reading all those PR sheets, that is a lot of work in them

When it comes to pre-Columbian discovery of America, I personally like the story of St. Brendan the Navigator. While it's never been confirmed, the lands he described in his voyage to find Eden in the (I think) 4th century A.D. resemble Iceland and the coast of North America. It's also been tested and confirmed that the Cross-Atlantic trek would've been possible with the level of sea-faring technology at the time. I'd definitely recommend anyone to check out the story.

@davidhyams2769

9 ай бұрын

It's well-established now that the Vikings had colonies in Nova Scotia and possibly a little further south on the US mainland. The Vikings themselves wrote about the "Westermen" (thought to mean the Irish) who, they said, had got there first, wherever the Vikings went.

@frankhorrigan2047

9 ай бұрын

@@davidhyams2769 I completely forgot about my comment and need to point out that I was a couple of centuries off. Saint Brendan lived from c. AD 484 - c. 577. Still impressive if the legend is true. It should most definitely be said that there's a lot of mystery to pre-Columbian America. Such as theories that the ancient Chinese and/or Polynesians could very possibly have landed on the west coast. And if memory serves right, I believe I've also some legends about ancient Africans possibly even sailing to South America. People knew about these continents long before Amerigo Vespucci, and I dare to say long before Leif Erickson. Going off of that, as well as how advanced many ancient peoples were compared to what was previously thought, the likelihood of stories like Saint Brendan's being in the realm of truth rises from "possible" to "damn near certain".

Hello, Terry! Actually, in standard German, we call you "Americans." But some years ago, for whatever reason, the German Wikipedia community started to use sentences like "George Bush war ein US-amerikanischer Präsident." Now, it even seems to be the standard for articles in the German language Wikipedia edition to use "US-American" to make clear that this person comes from the USA, not from Canada or Brazil. Then, the "Tagesschau," a nation-wide news broadcast by one of the publicly-financed channels ("ARD") which still is the leading news broadcast in Germany each day on 8 p.m. with a major market share, started to use this hyphenated "US-amerikanisch" variant as well. It therefore becomes more and more popular, also for newspapers and press agencies. Also, In the English-speaking world, you see North America and South America as two continents. Europeans don't do this, for us, it's one continent (with regions like Central America, Latin America.) That's why the Olympic flag has five and not six rings, red for "America" if I remember it correctly. So, the answer to the question, how many continents are there on earth, differs from the culture you come from. Best regards from Hamburg, Germany!

Btw im from what you may call Central America and i do find the whole American thing annoying but it’s clearly a cultural conflict both regions will have to learn to live with for a long while.

We've always said "cray-on" here in the Uk. There is a good video on Is the world map wrong?

Can't see if anyone mentioned it, but Freedonia is a name that was ACTUALLY FLOATED as a renaming for the US in the early 1800s

I know, I am from the Netherlands, my people are not Netherlanders, but Dutch. My language is not Netherlandish, but Dutch. All because the English were too lazy to find a new word for us after Germany became a thing. So, we are stuck with having the medeaval name for all the germanic speaking people on the continent.

@alexojeda9048

2 жыл бұрын

In Spanish, Dutch is actually called Holandés after Holland.

@JRobbySh

2 жыл бұрын

Your fault for Screwing things up with the Flemings and French speakers in the Spanish Netherlands, aka Belgium. The Congress of Vienna gave the House of Orange that territory but you were not fair to them. Could have had Luxembourg, too, and some more of Germany.

@ronaldderooij1774

2 жыл бұрын

@@JRobbySh Ah well, shit happens.

The popular German rock group Rammstein says we are all living in America. They even wrote a song about it, Amerika.

It's interesting to see that the map of Asia drawn by Amerigo shows Asia extending down into a peninsular which us roughly the shape and location of the northern coast of present day Western Australia.. Could this be evidence that the western side of the continent was familiar to European sailors long before the Dutch are credited with mapping it in the 1600s, at which stage even the Dutch did not realise that the area they called New Holland was part of a much larger continent.

Eh, countries can call themselves whatever they want. We just rename things randomly all the time. Türkiye just changed its name from Turkey, when Britain and France redrew the borders in the Middle-East they got rid of old names and created new countries like Israel. It’s no longer Rome, it’s Italy. It’s no longer Mycenae it’s Greece. Modern Macedonia isn’t even where historical Macedonia is. Or you have countries like Japan that have one name on maps, Japan, but their country has a different official name, Nippon-Koku. The point is, none of the naming stuff matters. Just call things whatever you want to call them.

@pomamoba

2 жыл бұрын

*whatever they want you to call them. Because sometimes it may get offensive and it's preferable to listen to the actual country. You don't call Native Americans "Indians", because they might not like it, and they come from a bunch of different tribes that a generalized under that umbrella term. It's like pronouns. For example, Belarus and Ukraine both hate how Russia addresses them. Belarus gets called Belorussia, which is denying their national identity and claiming them to be just other kind of Russians. And instead of IN Ukraine Russians say ON Ukraine, because it's addressed like a territory(as if we it's an island), not like a country. Which used to be true, but changed decades ago.

@razier5299

2 жыл бұрын

@@pomamoba So you expect all countries who call it Germany, Allegmagne, or other derivatives to all just change their ways and do it the German way? Languages are going to simplify things to their own ways for it to be easier.

@scottnunnemaker5209

2 жыл бұрын

@@pomamoba exactly none of it matters. It’s like some jerk yelling an insult at you on the street, don’t be so sensitive.

@enderoctanus

2 жыл бұрын

@@pomamoba No. I'm tired of this dumb argument. Taking offense is a choice and is used to control people over petty bullshut like this. Take your pettiness and leave the rest of us alone.

@alicemilne1444

2 жыл бұрын

@@enderoctanus Okay, how about if I as a UK citizen just decide to call your country "the Colonies" and you "a colonial" because that's what you are to me? I can just see you bristling and spluttering "but, but Independence, we won the war, etc., etc." If you claim the right to call yourself what you want, you have to accord that right to other people as well. It's called respect.

I'm from the US but now live in the UK. I've always said "cray-on". I would also vote to call it "Destiny Manifested"

American Mustard is, IIRC, not spicy, when English and French mustard is. It confused lots of people when the latest (Japanese-developed) Pokémon games asked for something spicy and Mustard was a required ingredient.

So if you have a Definition for north america...how many countries are in the north America continent and what the majority of American think that the rest all countries belong to southamerica?

'It is not an exclusionary term' (just described precisely how it actually was)

@raspberrytaegi

Жыл бұрын

lol ikr

Please can you do more map men.

I would highly recommend checking out a new history channel called BlueJay. He's kind of like Sam O'Nella or Drawn of History and pretty funny as well.

I once had a conversation with a woman from Columbia. She told me she hated the *name* America - that is not the name of her continents. What do you call it, I asked, innocently. “Meh-heek-oh”, she replied. I have since found out that that is what the Aztecs called that part of the world. See! You’re never quite sure where you are lol

You have Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Latin Americans...

The Abbreviation to Windies for the Islands is probably accidentally correct given Hurricane etc season

In china 5 continents : asia america africa europe oceania(australia) or 6 with artartida also coutries as : veitman indonesia turkey south korea spain italy france rumania greece portugal and others coutries

4:36 - As far as I know, he tough he had reached Asia not due to a underestimation of the circumference of the earth, but to a overestimation of the size of Asia

It's more interesting thinking how the Canadians reference being on the North American continent, like the French are European.

"We didn't land on Plymouth Rock... Plymouth Rock landed on us."- Malcolm X

I think there's more important things to worry about, but the map men videos are always good for a laugh a bit like the United States, there's an idea how about we just call it the United States, similar to the United Kingdom, and the European Union, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and the United Arab Emirates, just thinking out LOUD, you could always just call yourselves USians, or statians, or statiens, or stations, or Unisiens, or unitiates, you get the idea...........

@kennetic9196

2 жыл бұрын

All of the example names that you gave are absolutely ridiculous.

@blindarchershaunhenderson3769

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennetic9196 that's rather the point