🚩 Get plus 4 extra months on a 2y plan here: nordvpn.com/historymarchevpn. It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee! 🚩 The battle of Manzikert is one of those that altered the course of history. The armies of Alp Arslan swept into Anatolia like a storm, inflicting a defeat on the Byzantine Empire from which it would never recover. Many consider Manzikert to be the beginning of the irreversible decline of the Byzantine Empire. The Seljuk victory and the resurgent forces of Islam, were both likely causes for the calling of the First Crusade, over two decades later.

@danielsantiagourtado3430

6 ай бұрын

Love your content man! You're the GOAT!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

@eball2k9

6 ай бұрын

Italian wars?

@IDFCClan

6 ай бұрын

sound is messed up in this vid

@Spartan_Disiplin

6 ай бұрын

You falsely portrayed the Seljuk army as more than it actually was. The number of Seljuk army in the Battle of Manziker was not more than 15:000. ''It appeared many of the Sultan’s troops had deserted and he was now commanding a much-reduced army of between ten and fifteen thousand men.'' Markham, Paul. "Battle of Manzikert: Military Disaster or Political Failure?".

@mysticnovelbro

6 ай бұрын

ease up on the clickbait thumbnails

The part with Alparslan demanding the Byzantine king to kneel down and kiss the ground is not true. Bizantine Emperor was an honoroble emperor that fought till the end. He didn't try to flee. So he was respected and treated as an honoroble person . He was first captured and blinded by the new Bizantine emperor's soldiers when he was on his way back to Constantinopole. Then he was jailed and killed

@grey3019

13 күн бұрын

scary what happened to emperor of roman empire\Byzantine emire

@alehsanus

9 күн бұрын

Turkish rulers see their enemy's ruler as his equal. So disrespecting to a king is also disrespecting himself. Its almost never happened in Turkish history.

Alp Arslan welcomed Diogenes like a king, did not humiliate him and allowed him to return to his country. It was Byzantium that killed and humiliated Diognes.

@ilijas3041

6 ай бұрын

the ritual they described was a sort of PR show to let the thousands of people around know about the new order of things. The respect you mention began the next day probably

@GeoBBB123

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Greek political machinations and ambitions have always undermined us.

@berserk9085

6 ай бұрын

How many Brothers the Ottoman Sultans killed?

@onurkagangocebe

6 ай бұрын

It is not true, alparslan putting his feet on emperor's neck this is buşşshit and never written anywhere. He was threated as a brave warrior and and emperor. Plus Turks never humiliate anyone if the opponent is not a traitor.

@srahaman546

6 ай бұрын

​​@@berserk9085What has that got to do with Alparslan or Seljuks? Lmao

The Battle of Manzikert paved way for Crusades and the Turkification of Anatolia which laid the seeds of the Ottoman empire which conquered Constantinople ending Rome and triggering the Age of Discovery which shaped much of the modern world,... A battle can only be this impactful

@so.marley

6 ай бұрын

The Battle of manzikert just speeded the crusades; which was in motion after the schism in Christianity 40 yrs prior.

@iosefamr8289

6 ай бұрын

dark day in history

@Shlevel

6 ай бұрын

Idk…the Battle of Adrianople in 378 was somewhat important…lol

@schoolofgrowthhacking

6 ай бұрын

@@ISLAMMEHMEDOVHow can you honestly say one religion is better or followers of one are wrong? Jesus spread his religion through peace and his own sacrifice, Muhammad by killing members of his own kin (Quraysh). So why do you call others infidels?

@tartatrax5897

6 ай бұрын

​@@ISLAMMEHMEDOV Christians and Jews and Muslims for the irony pray to one, same god, just in different form and witaj different philosophy. We all came from Abraham. Jews and Christians from his second son Izaak, Arabs from Ismail what in term should give them more legitimacy, but Izaak was from wife, Ismail from Slave.

Amazing how effective the feigned retreat strategy has been across history. So many pivotal battles have been decided by the use of the tactic.

@backpackpepelon3867

6 ай бұрын

I forget the term is, rubber band defense, or flexible wall, but Russia used it a lot to absorb Ukraine counter offensive, and annihilate any advance into their minefield.

@EmersonLee192

6 ай бұрын

Rather few armies could manage a disciplined feigned retreat. A retreat without fear of turning into a rout can only be done by experienced veterans. For fresh troops even a move back order can lead to chaos.

@sedoskovelha123

6 ай бұрын

They figured out that the AI pathfinding simply isnt advanced enough to deal with retreating missiles

@satanwithinternet2753

6 ай бұрын

It is a win win tactic. If they follow u then bam u got em If they don't then welp u just disengaged from a battle on ur own terms and can now do hit and run tactics

@patrickwatrin5093

6 ай бұрын

Agreed 💯 I have always marvelled at the efficacy this tactic has had time and again. It takes a savvy commander to both recognize said tactic while at the same time holding back one's own forces that are whipped up and smell blood. When spirits are up and everyone and everything is running at a fever pitch,tis difficult to exercise control and emotion.

No Alparslan didn't put his foot on emperor neck, infact he greeted him with honor and freed him

@ghostapostle7225

3 ай бұрын

Nah, it's a historical fact that he did it. lol Love how muslims tries so hard to rewrite history.

@user-nq2oz8tf2l

2 ай бұрын

This channel is pretty propaganda heavy and biased.

@berserk9085

2 ай бұрын

Stop lying racist. Yes he did that and only spare him for a huge amount for Ransom. So dont lie.

@berserk9085

2 ай бұрын

@@user-nq2oz8tf2l Stop lying Racist. Yoz are biased and full of Propaganda. Yes he put his foot on the Emperors Neck and only spared him for a huge amount for Ransom. So dont lie.

@FurinaDeFontaines

2 ай бұрын

@@berserk9085go learn history bozo

In Romanus Diogenes' tent before the battle of Manzikert, the Pecheneg leader and Seljuk envoy were communicating with each other in their own languages during a meeting. The Greek historian who was watching them was shocked and said Wait a minute, they speak the same language?

@clmk28

6 ай бұрын

scary

@aetius7139

6 ай бұрын

​@@clmk28Didnt they knew they both turks?. Someone didnt get a memo?.😂😂

@ladyselin35

6 ай бұрын

@@aetius7139 One side is sword for hire other side fights for religion mostly.

@ggoddkkiller1342

6 ай бұрын

1000 years later we can still understand most of Turkic nations especially western Turkic people like Tatars, Uzbeks, Uyghurs and ofc other Turkmens.. Seljuks had nothing to do with religion, they wanted to find a new homeland and actually it was Egypt for a while until Byzantine was defeated at battle of Manzikert. Then Anatolia all the way in, it was Arabs who declared Turks as the sword of Islam but most of Seljuk Beys didn't care much about it expect the ones who ruled Arabic majority territories like Zengids.

@ladyselin35

6 ай бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 Nothing to do with religion? Every battle seljuks have made was encouraged by caliph by giving their leaders new honor names like sultan of east and west or Fury of the religion ,etc. Even before that Alp arslan went to protect caliphate from Shia. Battles were for gaining more spoils and blessings from caliphate to show Seljuks are protector of the religion.

The name "Byzantine Empire" is invented in the 16th century by a German Historian there are no records mentioning Byzantine Empire before. This particular battle was the end of the Eastern Roman empire.

There's a striking similarity between Attila & Alparslan both inherited the throne from their uncles, inflicted heavy defeats on the Romans in Manzikert & Ravenna respectively and died just the years after at the height of their power

@ianfitzpatrick2230

6 ай бұрын

Julius Caesar was the nephew of Gaius Marius, and Caesar’s nephew Octavian becomes his heir.

@BulanGoldstein

6 ай бұрын

​@@ianfitzpatrick2230old Turks practiced lateral succession. It is not about being childless or anything else.

@ianfitzpatrick2230

6 ай бұрын

@@BulanGoldstein I figured! I understand that succession is much more fluid for cultures going back, it’s just interesting the overall angle of nephews and uncles in the greater world. I personally wasn’t close with any of mine so I couldn’t imagine a society based on that.

@tyrannusrex31

6 ай бұрын

These were Byzantine Greeks in Manzikert. People like to toss around the word Roman like they’re talking about the greatest empire that ever existed. That’s not Byzantium. They were culturally Roman for a time, but they were barely even Roman when Rome existed. And for the record, Attila defeated Eastern Rome (see: Byzantium). Western Rome mopped the floor with Attila in the Battle of Chalons. Attila lost so bad that he completely abandoned his campaign, went home, and waited to die. Western Rome was the true powerhouse, but it couldn’t hold itself together forever. There was too much instability for its client states not to gain their freedom.

@nenenindonu

6 ай бұрын

@@tyrannusrex31 Chalons was a strategic stalemate and tactical victory for Attila since the year after the Romans were left with no man power and had to watch the Huns razing their way into Rome until Romans paid them off Because the Huns managed to eliminate the king of their rivals and, most importantly, they had possession of the battlefield after the end of the battle, the outcome was likely a Hun victory., Hyun Jin Kim (2013). The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. pp. 76-77

It is very interesting that Greek reservists didn't fight for their emperor but Turkish cavalry died fighting for him.

@qus.9617

6 ай бұрын

And Varangian guard fought to the last man.

@kingtryfon5702

5 ай бұрын

yes because these people were living there they were called themata and these were the ones defending their homes near the border

@BayPizzaTR

5 ай бұрын

On 2nd October 1922, Greeks did the same again... They escaped and abandoned the battlefield. Even the time goes by, character of a nation never changes.

@sertao8041

5 ай бұрын

​@@BayPizzaTRwe had no chance you jerk. Our army had to retreat to ba able to hold constaninople and the rest of greece. By standing and fighting the turks who had the support of russia and the Anglo-French who were against the government + being hundreds of miles away from Greece was surely a death sentence. Now go cry for 1821.

@ilyaskus5613

5 ай бұрын

And yet imao coz today some ignorant greek thinks that Bysantium was greek not roman :D:D:D i mean bro even emperior name is ROMANOS :D:D:D:D:D:

This war is undoubtedly the most important war in the 6-7 thousand years of known human history in terms of its results and shaping history and civilizations.

@deadbeat5165

4 ай бұрын

not really arab byzantine war is the one that cut the roman empire in half

@hussnainjutt2184

Ай бұрын

​@@deadbeat5165when did that battle took place? In which year

@andredeketeleastutecomplex

11 күн бұрын

Nope

@stoneruler

9 күн бұрын

@@hussnainjutt2184 yarmuk

Manzikert was a game changer. Leadership is so important. A brain that would gather men and do something extraordinary. Not just military but every field.

@dinos9607

6 ай бұрын

No it wasn't. It was just a random battle that was only raised as "important" several centuries later so as that nobody speaks of the No1 reason Turks managed their break in into Minor Asia : the civil war within the Empire and the shift of Imperial financial interests to Venice.

@rouge210

6 ай бұрын

@@dinos9607True, at this point Byzantium was pretty much eaten away by corruption and betrayals caused by no one but themselves. Nothing brilliant to be praised such.

@oldgamer9992

6 ай бұрын

​@@rouge210😂

@saad.4550

5 ай бұрын

@@dinos9607 funny comment، There are many periods of corruption and administrative setback in countries, and all of them are resolved by new leaders if the country does not undergo a great ordeal or war. This loss officially announced that the Byzantine state did not have any leadership that would guarantee its interests, so those with influence and war began to flee.

@Basileios1974

2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't say so. The main problem Byzantium had was that quite literally every successful military leader could claim the throne for himself!

Alp Arslan masterfully applied the wolf trap tactic, which is the traditional war tactic of the Turks, and trapped her opponent and fed her to the wolves.

Alp Arslan’s maliciously calculated organised retreat with the hidden troops at the hill just showed his military genius almost a foreshadow of Khalid ibn waleed tactic against the Romans in the battle of yarmouk what’s to note is the disarray of of the second part of the army disappearing in the midst must be quite daunting for Roman history

@xddx2639

5 ай бұрын

This tactic is a Turkish tactic known as the thousands of years old (turan, wolf trap, crescent) tactic.

@lonelywolf1480

5 ай бұрын

That false withdrawal tactic is a well known (at least by the Turks) ancient military tactic known as 'wolf trap', which has been applied successfully numerous times throughout the history. At Mankizert, this time it was Romans turn to fall into it.

@floydmonney79

14 күн бұрын

​@@xddx2639 معروف لدى العرب الساميين قبل الاف السنين

The byzantine army was composed of diverse formations and competing generals who priviledged their political ambitions over the state interests. Consequently the internal betrayals and a poor campaign managment ended up in a disaster.

@arnijulian6241

6 ай бұрын

A story as old as time & is ever present even today among politicians & so called generals! Personal gain before station & reputation to leave no legacy of note.

@Justin12345678876

6 ай бұрын

When the Roman empire fell and split in two, they went from being an aggresive faction that conquered lands to being incredibly defensive. They often gave up the initiative for peace and paid people off. Also, an army almost entirely composed of mercenaries, how can you expect loyalty. The whole nature of their people left them doomed. The emperors and generals were just a part of that.

@SolidAvenger1290

6 ай бұрын

​@Justin12345678876 that's 100 true. The remaining generals like Nikephoros during this battle and their successor Nikephoros the Younger were one of the bastions of Byzantine honor during the same corruption that followed them from Rome. It was said that many wanted to put Nikephoros the Younger's son Alexios Bryennios Komnenos on the throne seeing he married Alexios's daughter Anna, and that he be much better then Alexios's true heir John Komonenos. However, they refused to betray Emperor Alexios's wishes seeing how close their family ties were. Former enemies were now tied together leading the affairs of the Byzantine Empire during the brief restoration after Manzikert.

@Leptospirosi

6 ай бұрын

True, but Romanus was appaling at getting intelligence, throwing his army into the unknown, again again. Ignorance of the enemy, of the terrain, of eventual retreat routes and of the position of its own forces spelt the disaster,ceven without Dukas betrail. Sun Tsu could have taken Romanus command as a blatant example if what NOT to do in war, while Arslan acted competently. Not a genius, but more the enought for its counterpart.

@Justin12345678876

6 ай бұрын

The difference is Arslan was a man in control, he made all his own decisions and didn't have to constantly deal with potential back stabbing and politics. His army was loyal and feared him. On the other hand, which is the case for most Byzantine leaders and generals, they were dealing with a disjointed nationa and force that lacked any trust or unity. How can he even trust is scouts for example? Would he even ha/ve lost if e was't betrayed by his reserves and h/is second force didn't flee? @@Leptospirosi

While Rome's hostility to Turks dated back to late antiquity particularly against Tengrist Oghuric entities like the Bulgars, Avars, Huns, the arrival of Seljuks marked the begin of a new front against a distinct Muslim powerhouse conquering their way into Anatolia

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

6 ай бұрын

Romans in the Middle Ages: Are you talking about the Persians (Seljuks)? Yes, they have been my enemies for thousands of years.

@resentfuldragon

6 ай бұрын

@@ISLAMMEHMEDOV That's not true at all, you don't know anything about iranian or indian history. The "aryans" are iranian people and they are their own distinct ethnic groups that are not indian. While its true there is genetic overlap in the north of the subcontinent due to iranian migration, the indian subcontinent is fulled with multiple ethnic groups that have no over-lap with iranians. Groups like the tamils are not related to iranians whatsoever. The idea of "indo-aryans" is a concept used to explain a certain part of history, the two groups are not actually related. By your own logic its possible to call turks mongols or kipchaks or han chinese because they lived near these groups and occasionally inter-married. Its not right to boil down entire region's histories because you want to be right about the gypsy thing, the gypsies are not iranian nor are indians iranian.

@mazakantc5532

6 ай бұрын

its even proven not only linguistically iranians and northern indians afgans pakistanis are ethnically related.. not only linguistically.@@resentfuldragon

@resentfuldragon

5 ай бұрын

@@mazakantc5532 If you read my comment I did say there was overlap, but I showed that despite some relation they weren't the same people. I pointed out fellow desis in south india have no relation to irannian. The desis and other groups in the subcontinent are their own group. As for afghans that was never a part of the argument, of course they are related since the sassanids ruled all the way into it and even some small parts of modern day pakistan. The whole argument was that the iranians are their own distinct people so your comment is literally a straw man fallacy, you made up a point I never argued in the first place. Loose relation doesn't mean the same people. We were arguing over whether they were the same people, not over loose dna relation.

@mazakantc5532

5 ай бұрын

@@resentfuldragon whatever you pointed out is invalid because indians and iranians have immense shit in common. ethnically and linguistically.

I have no idea how many people are part of staff. But I say hats off to you and whoever else is involved. Just a brilliant way to make history interesting and enjoyable to learn.

@SolidAvenger1290

6 ай бұрын

I tend to agree, however I feel HM could have given more context on how the Turks treated the imprisoned Emperor, how his return to Constantinople started a civil war, how certain players like General Nikephoros & others tried to reestablish strength after the catastrophe at Mazikert, and how it led to the rise to Alexios. Not to mention, consider how some other sources state/debate that the Byzantine army was much bigger yet highlighting how Romanos neglected the army's discipline, organization, etc, dating back to 1069. HM could have used more source material besides a novel from 2012 that has some okay yet flawed secondary sources. Reviews are 4.4 out of 5 by users.

Lessons learned: 1) Always scout the area first before sending in your forces. 2) Communication between armies is key.

@_semih_

6 ай бұрын

Bro, in which battle you are going to use this lessons? lol

@billisultan6224

6 ай бұрын

@@_semih_ They are still relevant even today.

@satanwithinternet2753

6 ай бұрын

​@@_semih_in literally every battle ?

@DT11199

6 ай бұрын

@@satanwithinternet2753 Truth, yet they still neglect it in most battles.

@satanwithinternet2753

6 ай бұрын

@@DT11199 so is the nature of man. like an animal with dementia

Yesterday (24 November) was the anniversary of his death. As a Turk, I say that he may rest in peace.

Fantastic video! 19:20 It's surprising how Loyal the Varangian Guards to the Basileus, considering how Disloyal the Praetorian Guard was and how quickly they were to sell out the emperor for just a few coins lol

@subutaykhan9387

6 ай бұрын

The loyality disappeared when Latins sacked Constantinople

@sirspamalot3

6 ай бұрын

Money talks. As long as the varangians were paid they did their duty.

@subutaykhan9387

6 ай бұрын

@@sirspamalot3 indeed

@ondras5241

6 ай бұрын

Well, it wasn't usually just a few coins. The Praetorians often has friends and families engaged in the politics, so replacing an emperor wasn't just about money, but also about ideology and loyalty to others. The Varangians didn't have that. They were foreigners, they didn't have any extensive families and affiliation outside the emperor. The emperor and their service to him was the only thing that legitimised them in the eyes of both the Greek common folk and the aristocracy.

@Rynewulf

6 ай бұрын

@@subutaykhan9387tbf when the country you work for disintigrates and none of the successors nor the later restoration bothers to even try rehire you, youre kind of out of a job. There was no one left to serve

All Arslan actually didn’t kill Romanos Diyojen IV he was forgiven by sultan alp arlslan and hastily returned to Constantinople were the council had blinded him and exiled Romanos out of Constantinople eventually dying from his wounds Excellent video by the way @historymarche

Ironically, General Nikephoros Bryennios the Elder, who fought at Manzikert (on Romanos IV's left flank and held out as long as he could to save the encircle Emperor), would become known by scholars as one of the greatest Byzantine tacticians (later historian in the 11th century) and would play a role in the growing rise & reigns of Michael VII, Nicephorus III Botaniates and Alexios Komnenos I. During Michael's reign, he was the "Doux" or supreme general of Byzantine forces & governor in Bulgaria until he was disgusted with Michael's treaty with the Sejlks in 1077 after this massive defeat at Manzikert that led to the annexation of Anatolia alongside multiple civil wars in various parts of the empire. Bryennios attempted to take the title of emperor with the backing of most of his available troops, but Constantinople's defenses still proved impossible to breach, even to domestic rebellions. He was offered the title of "Ceasar" by Bontanites, who later obtained the title of emperor over the empire after Bryennios failed to oust Michael while besieging Constantinople. Still, he refused to submit to Nicephorus's authority, considering a former minister named Nikephoritzes under Michael VII tried to assassinate him (which was the cause of making his move on Michael's throne in late 1077), and the new emperor Nicephorus still considered him a potential threat. Later, Bryennious, now known as a usurper, faced the early stardom of General Alexios I (the future emperor during the First Crusade). He was subsequently defeated & taken prisoner by Alexios despite having a superior army at the battle of Kalavrye in 1078. He was blinded in both eyes by the orders of Nicephorus. However, the emperor later pitied the already-beaten Bryennios and decided to restore his rank & family's fortune. Despite being badly handicapped & retired from the army, he later successfully helped lead & defend the city of Adrianople during Alexios's Pecheneg campaign against a Cuman rebel attack in 1094/5, led by a pretender who claimed to be Constantine Diogenes, the son of Romanos IV Diogenes, who had died in 1073. The Cuman attack would have been successful had not Bryennios, also a relative of the late Romanos, not recognized the voice of the pretender and who also had very substantial support in Constinanlople among the populace to try ousting Alexios. The old Byzantine general ensured the longevity of Alexios's reign, the brief restoration of Byzantine land & prestige, and the empire's stability. Bryennios would finally accept the title of Caesar under Alexios (his once former foe) despite his retirement, be given many honors, and be one of Alexios's leading generals until his death around 1096. Emperor Alexios's daughter Anna would later marry Nikephoros the Younger because Nikephoros the Elder's successor greatly impressed the emperor, and Bryennios's heir would become one of the first men to gain the brand new Byzantine imperial title of Panhypersebastos - "Venerable Above All."

@The_ZeroLine

6 ай бұрын

What a life. Destiny is truly blind.

@ilijas3041

6 ай бұрын

In some happier times people like him and later Vranas and Maniakes were celebrated as victors for their successful campaigns. From Agrippa to Belisarius and beyond, it tells a lot about the resillience of political structure and even societal fabric in general. In 11 and 12 century exceptional military leaders would only get recognition if they were perceived as a threat for the regime or if they actually became one. No triumph awarded for that achievement

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

6 ай бұрын

@@ilijas3041 He was led by stupid military leaders and his failure. Even Belisarius lost more than three wars against the Persians

I really liked the Alparslan image as it stressed his Asiatic, Nomadic features which is usually neglected

Mete Han(Modu Chanyu) was the first to discover the tactic of first attacking and then retreating, hiding soldiers on the wings and surrounding the enemy. He is a war genius who is the inventor of the Turkish army, the first regular army, the rank system and the sergeant's arrow.This trick continues to work even after 1000s of years.

@scorpiong0

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the wolfes used the same tactic too so its not a rocket science i guess. Avrupa ordularının zamanında bu tuzağa sürekli düşmelerinin sebebi onların ordu düzeninde hafif süvarinin fazla yer kaplamamasıydı. Bu taktik hafif süvari ağırlıklı ordularla mümkün oluyordu bu yüzden Moğollar ve Türkler bunu bolca kullandılar fakat Avrupalılar buna alışkın değildi. Onlar piyade ve ağır süvari karışımı ordu kullanıyorlardı genellikle.

@deathdefyingowl

2 ай бұрын

Certainly not. It is old as humanity. Used by Ancient greeks, Ancient Mesopotamians and egyptians...

@semih5564

2 ай бұрын

@@deathdefyingowl You are wrong, this tactic was first used in the Battle of Baideng in 200 BC, no nation you mentioned can ride horses as well as the Hun Turks and it can't be fast

@deathdefyingowl

2 ай бұрын

@@semih5564 centuries before huns scythians ravaged the persians with same tactic. both scythians and persians were iranic in origin.

@brllck48

2 ай бұрын

​@@deathdefyingowl Persian gipsy massagets were turkic

Everyone gangster until turkic horsmens lead by alparslan apears

@mutlualbayrak6905

3 ай бұрын

😂😂👍

It's amazing that one battle can change the course of history so much

@zachbonvallat6586

6 ай бұрын

It's more like the climax of a big story of events that has happened. You can see how all the different generals of the different languages basically betrayed him a different portions of the battle or did not agree with his decisions and it was difficult for them to translate back and forth especially at that time.

@fabikovongot3978

5 ай бұрын

ruin the history so much

@saad.4550

5 ай бұрын

@@fabikovongot3978 The vile history of the hideous Christian kingdoms

A HistoryMarche notification on your phone makes drop everything and watch the video

What a wonderful documentary. Definitive in scope and detail as always. Thank you!

Legendary battle! One of the most influential in history

A masterpiece as always. Thank you very much.

Interesting narration as many other sources depict the battle in somewhat different manner. I think this one was the most detailed and comprehensive narration so far. Great job! Though its better to call them "(Eastern) Roman Empire" as they would call themselves, not the word "Byzantines" which was invented some 500 years later..

Thx for all the Hard work and great content

I can already tell I am going to like this, the cadence of speech and pronunciation make it a great listen.

Cant wait😍 Love your videos😊

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

these animations are so good brother thanks!

Brilliant history lesson as always

Been waiting for this one thanks HM!

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Sorry for the wait man. I hope you enjoyed the video. It was great seeing you in the Live chat

@KHK001

6 ай бұрын

I always enjoy your vids thanks again!

Sources are different in Seljuk side indicating 4 times larger army from the Roman Empire as well as better treatment of the Emperor. These incidents show two things: The great fear of Seljuks and the ambition to retain the territory promised by the Emperor. I sense a westernised approach from this channel, it is obviously not realistic of them to expect telling both sides’ accounts.

@SolidAvenger1290

6 ай бұрын

I will agree with this assessment, and as a Westerner, I believe HM used an okay yet still very flawed source via Brian Todd Carey's novel. That book covering the lead-up and the aftermath of Manzikert has some secondary sources that aren't entirely reliable (or try to embellish some recounts) that some people have pointed out since 2012. There are other scholars and authorities out there who could have provided different interpretations that included the Turkish account of events. It was a missed opportunity by HM for this particular important battle in history. Not to mention, I don't like how they didn't dive deeper into 1069/70 campaigns that helped set the narrative (the mindset of the Emperor about the Turks & the current decline of the Byzantine military/the lack of updating it by the Emperor) leading up to Manzikert, the subtle lack of focus on General Nikephoros Bryennios's role during & after the battle going into the start of Byzantine civil wars, and how the Turks later treated & release Romanos.

@branis96

6 ай бұрын

Just by looking at the title, you can see the Eurocentrism in it without even diving deep into the video The sentence "Sparked the First Crusade" says it all.

@cgtymirket

5 ай бұрын

In addition, despite even being in a very superior condition, they do not hesitate to attribute their defeats entirely to misfortunes and so called betrayals among them. Solely to diminish and overshadow the great victories of others...

@hussnainjutt2184

Ай бұрын

That was the comment I was looking for

@yusufklc2962

10 күн бұрын

They always lose wars because of their spitefulness. Even though 1000 years have passed, their hatred has not passed. They lack the intelligence to reduce the army of at least 200,000 to 40,000. They don't even look at the historical records of the Byzantines who were in the army themselves.

I can't watch this video, almost one millennium later, I'm still traumatized by the defeat at Manzikert 😬😅

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Well frankly the battle did have a huge impact. It paved the way for the Turkification of Anatolia

@sametcagrcoskun8624

6 ай бұрын

On the contrary, I enjoy it very much 😂

@xuefalan

6 ай бұрын

@@sametcagrcoskun8624 haha, I bet you are!

@tastashin1553

6 ай бұрын

@@sametcagrcoskun8624 Enjoying it from Bangaldesh 😁

@jondo7680

6 ай бұрын

Give this poor soul some Turkish delight.

Good stuff! As always!

This is one of those situations where the incompetency was so blatant that you have to wonder just how much was conspiracy.

The Byzantine army was about 200,000 and the Seljuks were around 40,000 but the Seljuks defeated the Byzantines and even arrested the Byzantine Caesar Roman Diyojen.

@banderasbandita

4 ай бұрын

Fairytale

@MSaad-le9oz

4 ай бұрын

@@banderasbandita yeah just like your fucking Crusaders.

@JesusIsTheEternalGod

4 ай бұрын

That's literally a lie tho. And byzantines were weak for Years from wars with many ppl. Turks outnumbered the byzantine defense city. Turks later lost horribley to the Catholics at the battle of Aleppo where the Catholics were completely outnumbered. British Christians then destroyed the ottomons and gave back Israel to the Jews. This is still very Humiliating and Angering to the muslims.

@JesusIsTheEternalGod

4 ай бұрын

​@@SIGMA12389That's literally a lie tho. And byzantines were weak for Years from wars with many ppl. Turks outnumbered the byzantine defense city. Turks later lost horribley to the Catholics at the battle of Aleppo where the Catholics were completely outnumbered. British Christians then destroyed the ottomons and gave back Israel to the Jews. This is still very Humiliating and Angering to the muslims.

@JesusIsTheEternalGod

4 ай бұрын

That's literally a lie tho. Turks later lost horribley to the Catholics at the battle of Aleppo where the Catholics were completely outnumbered. British Christians then destroyed the ottomons and gave back Israel to the Jews. This is still very Humiliating and Angering to the muslims.

Learned something new. Thank you!

Thank you very much for this perfect masterpiece that deeply affected the Middle East. I enjoy watching all your videos.

God knows how long I've been waiting for this one. Bravo HistoryMarche. Bravo.

It doesnt make sense, if seljuk had more troops why they used fake retreat? And why was the roman so eager and confidently chasing larger army than their own? Even if the emperor was not a good military commander, even the stupid one would not gonna chase larger army The only logical situation was seljuk had fewer army not larger

@hussnainjutt2184

Ай бұрын

Exactly, you are spot on

Super wonderful historical coverage video about historical turned point against Byzantine dominant on Asia minor territory and favorite result to Saljuc empire and Planted Ottoman empire roots later... also encouraged the first Crusaders launched ... Thank you for an amazing (history Marche )channel for sharing this Formedible video... obviously, the Saljuc army was more disciplined, faithfulness and successfully mobilized .

This is often overlooked but Alp Arslan didnt try to conquer Anatolia directly. After this battle, he retreated then marched on the east. He had just broken the resistance against the nomadic tribes in Anatolia by the central authority in the Empire. Nomadic tribes did the rest of the work.

It's interesting how the prelude of Manzikert occurred this spontaneously with the sudden Roman offense Alparslan went from annexing Syria & Egypt from the Fatimids to conquering Anatolia which in fact resembles a mini Central Asia with coastal perks hence even a better geography for his nomadic Turkish armies

@ghostd69

6 ай бұрын

Egypt and south levante was never conquered by alp alp arslan it was remained under fatimid

@rahimJajneri

5 ай бұрын

@@ghostd69 Righly said for Egypt was conquered by Asad al Din Sherkoh, a commander of Nur al Din Zangi and Uncle of Salah al Din.

Andronikos is near the top of my "time machine and a sniper rifle" list.

Thanks so much. You are making this world a better place by making SUCH materials available to everyone. Not only to those who can afford to pay subscriptions to little-known websites for, in effect, narrow circles of people, but, like Prometheus, you bring fire to people. Thanks so much , long live and may God bless you all.

Awesome video as usual

Since I learned about this battle in the Age of Empires 2 campaign, I had always wanted to know exactly what the disaster was like, since reading is not enough to fully imagine it, but thanks to this video and your effort, I understand what a catastrophe it was for the Byzantines, added to the tactical genius of the Seljuks (no matter how many times it was repeated in history, European armies never looked to their past to understand the correct way to confront nomadic tactics). XD

@dinos9607

6 ай бұрын

Where do you see any "tactical genious" by Seljuks? LOL! These were nomadic horse archers showering enemies with arrows and then running back. Ultra ancient, ultra basic tactic, nothing fancy. What happened in Matzikert was a classic case of treason, that is all. Turks did not even win the main battle, they lost Matzikert and were cleared out of the region - Alp Arslan never returned and died soon after that in the East. Turks contiinued raiding in but, guess what, they were raiding in even before Martzikert with varying degrees of success including having lost repeatedly armies of more than 20,000 - so much for their "strategic geniuses". So good were the Seljuks that in the battle of Myriokephalon, where again suspicion of treason exists (e.g. those "gold-armored officers" insisting on moving into Myriokephalon contrary to the initial judgement), and where Seljuks had ambushed the main part of the Roman army, instead of butchering the Greeks up, they ended up losing double or possibly even triple the numbers of Greeks (possibly triple because it was really embarassing for them).... so many Seljuk dead that Seljuk sultan Kilij Arslan II had reportedly to send people and conceal the identity of the Seljuk dead to hide rising rumours of a Seljuk defeat! LOL! There is no secret about how one combats turkomongolic nomads and that was shown by how the Empire dealt with an even more ferocious and dangerous Turkomongolic tribe, this time in Europe, the notorious Pechenegs. Alexios Komnenos got to chase them and got to their tents and slaughtered everyone, their women, their children, their horses, their sheep, their dogs, everyone. This was not done for the Turks in Minor Asia firstly because Alexios entrusted the Crusaders to do so but these were proven inadequate at best (having been butchered by the Turks repeatedly) and then because inner Miinor Asia is a huge plateau which makes it extremely diffiicult to chase around moving nomads. Turks were notoriously cowards when it came to fight the Greeks, the very reason that in the 450 years it took them to get to Constantinople one counts extremely few battles. The reason is the fact that Turks generally avoided battles and preferred to take their time raiding civilian places and gradually over the decades and centuries decrease the populations and their resistances. The conquest of Minor Asia was no "Alexander the Great" or "Genghis Khan:" style, it was not even "Roman style". It was just a random act of nomadic tribes doing their thing, i.e. raiding civilian places and progressing only when a certain land was a ripe fruit, i.e. left defenceless.

@aknakcam4677

6 ай бұрын

@@dinos9607 hahaha I see a crying Greek. Someone who claims that the Turks conquered the entire Roman/Byzantine empire with random tactics. If the Turks were able to destroy the entire Roman Empire with stupid and cowardly tactics, how weak was the Roman Empire that you keep praising! And not everything in the world is about Roman Empire. Turks started from Asia, conquered and settled a lot of areas including whole Persian region. Then they made their way to Anatolia and finally Europe. If you call this bunch of random tactics, you are just biased against nomads/Turks lol.

@noir1923

6 ай бұрын

cope and seethe gayreek@@dinos9607

@marschallhistory2124

6 ай бұрын

Ich muss da widersprechen die Byzantinisch - Römischen Befehlshaber. Wussten durchaus wie Mann Nomadische Reiterarmeen wirksam bekämpft. Taktiken dafür wurden Schon gegen die Parther und Sassaniden entworfen die ähnliche Taktiken anwendeten. Außerdem wurden bis zur Schlacht von Manzikert dutzende Militärhandbücher verfasst in dem Ausführlich die Kampfweise Nomadischer Völker und die nötigen Gegenmaßnahmen beschrieben sind.

@billisultan6224

6 ай бұрын

​@@dinos9607 I understand that you are seething with rage but you should not brush over the genius of the Seljuks. They didn't over-estimate themselves even though they had numerical advantage. Treason just shows that the byzantine empire was weak.

Seljuks were outnumbered by 1 to 3 at least. Good story telling, but some mistakes in details. Its story not of Alp Arslan, but of 30 thousand men who won the battle of 'Malazgirt' against 100+ thousand of romans.

@padisah-cihanfatih-ibagdat5147

6 ай бұрын

If Alp Arslan would not command good and do tactics?

@Lost7one

5 ай бұрын

you have to be turkish.

@steadfastway1897

5 ай бұрын

Infact 200k Roman army lost to 15-20k Seljuks, many of who literaly prepared their shrowds, tired from other battels, as the only defence for the muslim population at that time with no support from anyone else but God

@maddmaddox1648

3 ай бұрын

Are you an idiot? Rome was not capable if fielding an army if 50000 in 1071. Much less the 100000 you claim.

Sultan Alp Arslan treated Diogen as a king, you should have mentioned that to...

I'm always in awe why Generals underestimated their foes when thousands of lives are on the line.

@glenchapman3899

6 ай бұрын

Well he obviously suffered from a lack of intelligence about the situation. But once he committed to battle. Pretty much made every mistake in the book

@richardchaparro2830

6 ай бұрын

@glenchapman3899 my 1st order would be scouts out. Idc where we were told they are. Proper plans and messages to be brought back and forth for updates. And never spilt up your army for two objectives

@grimgoreironhide9985

6 ай бұрын

You have to understand the social class these military leaders come from. They basically inherit or are given these positions through nepotism and patronage. This kind of system encourages dumbasses to command armies of thousands of men. And lower social classes are not viewed as people with rights but simply tools.

@glenchapman3899

6 ай бұрын

@@richardchaparro2830 yeah the scouting thing is interesting. No locals noticed this huge army wandering about. Or if they did, bother to report it to anyone

@tiberiuandrusca4729

6 ай бұрын

The final drop was the treachery of his reserves lead by Doukas. If they would have act at the right moment, they could have saved the day. And even with the Manzikert defeat, things could be restored if there would not have been internal turmoil and a decent leadership. But this is history, empires rise and fall.

Huge fan of your content man! I always look forward to your content: Suggestion, the battle of Milvian Bridge, constantine the Great's biggest triumph and when christianity in rome was assured survival.

@shadow-qp2ns

6 ай бұрын

And battle of cieabelis mardia and adrianopoliz

Just a few words for encouragement....Your content is gold!!!! Don't stop feeding us with it

Thank you for the video.

Thanks for the video.

Manzikert battle led to crusades (Seljuk Turks) Conquest of Constantinopole led to exploration of America in order to find new routes to sail India. (Ottoman Turks)

excellent work

Another masterpiece, love it!

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you! Thanks for supporting my work. Very kind of you.

In the west the Seljuq invasion of Asia Minor began the process which was to make it the modern land of the Turks and the base from which the greatest Islamic empire of the past 600 years would expand into southeast Europe .

Your videos and perseverance makes History even more interesting and amazing... Cannot fucking wait until you tackle WWII! Thank you Mago!!! :-)

You have depicted Alp Arslan's face so historically correct! Thank you

Romanus mistakes and betrayed by his generals brought the defeat. This was one of the most biggest armies Byzantines made and had back then after this defeat the Byzantines never had a bigger army or an army like that even that the army were most of it of mercenaries! What i know reading books is that the Turkish King was friently with Romanus and gave him shelter and stuff and let him leave but when the Emperor went back to Constantinople they blinded him and that was the end of the Emperor Romanus. Great vid btw keep it up!👍👍

The second army probability did send scouts and messages to the emperor in an attempt to locate him but we’re probably stopped by Seljuk scouts

it was very good and informative thank you for this

@yusufklc2962

9 күн бұрын

Most of what he tells is a lie.

Great Video!

It seems in this video that the number of Byzantines are fewer than Seljuks, which is absolutely a lie. There were twice the number of the Byzantine armies in comparison to the Seljuks.

@JesusIsTheEternalGod

4 ай бұрын

LOL prove it turk. U liar. Turks later lost horribley to the Catholics at the battle of Aleppo where the Catholics were completely outnumbered. British Christians then destroyed the ottomons and gave back Israel to the Jews. This is still very Humiliating and Angering to the muslims.

@maddmaddox1648

3 ай бұрын

Theyre were 10000 more romans at the start. Before half of them deserted. Turkish propaganda does not change the facts

@ghostapostle7225

3 ай бұрын

It seems you're too stupid to understand how the battle developed.

@isuckatleague745

26 күн бұрын

​@@maddmaddox1648 Yes roman emperor charged with fewer men and against a fully mounted army after he learned he wasnt facing just a raid party but the whole seljuk army. You have to be willfully blind no way you are this stupid . Now ask yourself , would you chase 30.000 mounted soldiers with your 20.000 men on foot ? Which one makes more sense ?

Even in modern combat, mobility is extremely important. Horseman archers are like a super weapon here. Alparslan’s tactics here were second-to-none. This war is the beginning of the end of the byzantine empire. Unbelievable chains of events and Anatolia is now home of Turkish people for almost a thousand years.

Commenting for the algorithm. Also, great video!

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Great video!

17:20 The Byzantine Empire - where a day without a betrayal (or just plain incompetence) was a day lost. It baffles me how the Empire managed to survive for as long as it did, being The Game of Thrones in real life.

@mustafahakansandk7747

2 ай бұрын

Plot Twist: Game of Thrones is just a narration of the Byzantine Empire with the names changed and some magic added.

Hmm. I cannot say i like the ending as while Manzikert are the reason for Seljuk expansion, it left out the detail on the aftermath such as Romanos and Doukas civil war and the Norman mercenary rebellion which make it very easy for people to assume that the Seljuk simply conquer Anatolia after Manzikert by themself. The second one is more open to intepration but from this video Arp Arslan seen more ruthless here, using diplomatic talk to defeat the second army and forcing the Emperor for rite of subjugation instead of a more popular intepration of Arp Arslan simply spare Romanos. It feels diffrent

The number of the Byzantine army exceeded 200 thousand. The emperor spent all his resources on this army. After Byzantium lost the war, it also lost a large part of Anatolia. If it had been fighting with 40k soldiers, there would have been too many soldiers left to protect Anatolia

Excellent video. As always ❤

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

“Neither blindness nor ignorance corrupts people and governments. They soon realize where the path they have taken is leading them. But there is an impulse within them, favored by their natures and reinforced by their habits, which they do not resist; it continues to propel them forward as long as they have a remnant of strength. He who overcomes himself is divine. Most see their ruin before their eyes; but they go on into it." - Leopold von Ranke

Hello HistoryMarche, I was wondering how do you ensure veracity and impartiality of your sources? Do you study Turkish side's accounts for example?

@SolidAvenger1290

6 ай бұрын

I tend to agree. I felt HM didn't do enough in terms of source material because Brian Todd Carey's book they followed for this video isn't exactly a reliable source that has 2 secondary sources. Many have pointed out this out reviewing that novel. I was disappointed HM rushed the ending of this presentation to miss key facts like, as you mentioned, regarding how the Sejlks treated the captured Emperor and how their return started a massive chain of events in Byzantinum

@theodormalte5729

6 ай бұрын

@@SolidAvenger1290 thanks for pointing out the source material. I have my doubts as to course of events and certain facts presented but the ending sounded particularly a product of imagination or historical bias. Too convenient. Thanks again.

@SolidAvenger1290

6 ай бұрын

@@theodormalte5729 it's no problem. I tend to take historical videos like these with a massive grain of salt. HM previously did a few similar things covering some of the Polish Commonwealth videos last year against Russia that some people pointed out regarding their source material and having a few inaccuracies. Kings and Generals only had a few issues with this, too, once they focused on modern topics in the last 5 years.

@ghostapostle7225

3 ай бұрын

@@SolidAvenger1290 You do deny that the emperor was humiliated?

nice work

had never considered the impact of Romanos' lack of missile units in the battle as a result of alp arslan's succesful turning back the other army

1- Sultan Alparslan was unaware that the Byzantine army of 100-150,000 people had arrived 2- If he had known, he would have also called his army in the east. 3- The Eastern army of the Seljuk army was not in the Middle East 3- If the Seljuks had not fought a siege war in another region at that time, If he had been informed in advance that the Byzantine army of 100-150,000 people would arrive He would bring the entire western army + the eastern army This way two numerically identical armies will fight

@maddmaddox1648

3 ай бұрын

That’s because it was 40k. Not 200k. Funny how only turks and muslims claim its 5x the size it was

@Emirkan-ek8bz

2 ай бұрын

@@maddmaddox1648 cope chr*stian

Thank you.

Thank you 🙏

Interesting that the 2000 turkic cavalries on the byzantine side never retreated, and fought to death, while most others fled. As a turkic myself, I am provoked to thinking as to why this might have happenned. Were they not mercenaries, were their families held ransom, or did they know selcuks would not forgive them anyways? Is it an engrained honor code? Any info, thoughts, ideas on this?

@zmba6924

5 ай бұрын

Ben de anlamadım açıkçası. Ankara Savaşı'nda Kara Tatarlar taraf değiştirip Timur'un tarafına geçmişlerdi. Demek ki honor code diyemeyiz. Bilen biri yazar inşallah.

@mericusta1988

5 ай бұрын

@@zmba6924 turkic ama hangi turkic, bu da önemli. Gagavuz mu mesela

@zmba6924

5 ай бұрын

gagavuz degil de turcopole olabilirler hristiyanlarsa@@mericusta1988

I love the way these westerners tell history. In fact, they were about to win every war they fought with the Turks, but lightning struck from the sky, their horses got stuck on stones, their arrows collided in the air and unfortunately they were defeated.

@mutlualbayrak6905

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 evet maalesef taşaklarını aldıran kişiler, başka ne yapsınlar

@kbkb1896

2 ай бұрын

So tell us what happened

@mutlualbayrak6905

2 ай бұрын

@@kbkb1896 Tarihi kayıtlara bak dostum, gerçeği göreceksin

@relaxmode8909

2 ай бұрын

t's the same stories since Homer. They add a godly touch to the story so as to belittle the opponent's tactical genius and not glorify the opponent. They misinterpret the tactical retreats made by the Türk armies to implement the Turan tactic (Pincer movement). BTW storytellers always prefer Western sources instead of Turkish and Arab sources. This causes biased expression.@@kbkb1896

@kbkb1896

2 ай бұрын

@@mutlualbayrak6905 I speak English. Sorry. Don't understand

animation looking great!

Great Video!! Please cover Battle of Nahavand 642, Battle of al-Qadisiyyah 636

17:17 greek noble men betray the byzantine emperor 18:00 turkic mercenaries on horses go for a last attack to die for the emperor in a already lost battle :D

@user-qz4go8pf8l

2 ай бұрын

Roman Emperor and Roman noblemen.

Your version of the numbers is not correct to historical records. Roman Empire had more then 80K men on the battlefield while the Selcuk's Turks had 15K. Alp Arslan did not step on the defeated Roman Emperor nor did he make him kiss the ground. This is out right incorrect , if fact he ordered that the chains on his arms and legs to be removed and that he was to be respected as he was a prisoner and a Emperor. Please check your facts. The Romans themselves first tortured and then killed their own Emperor for losing against the Turks.

@mutlualbayrak6905

3 ай бұрын

Evet kesinlikle katılıyorum

Thanks!

@HistoryMarche

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for supporting my work. Very kind of you.

Wonderful video as always.But I have one concern, the sounds in the background are overshadowed by the voice of the narrator.

Byzantine were crippled by internal conflicts to the point they defeated themselves. From the birth of the glorius roman empire, its end was innevitable because of this. It did influenced the world in ways no other empire could, but its end was predictable, just like todays west

Are you going to do a series about the komnenians?

@HistoryMarche could you tell us what happened to the traitor commander from reserve line after the battle? Also great video and I am waiting for more :)

@juliansmulian

6 ай бұрын

Doukas, his son-in law? His uncle became Emperor and because of his power and wealth he managed to avoid the merciless and very slow death he deserved. For all this and that talk about maneuvers, the loss was really caused by Doukas. There's just no way the Seijuk could defeat the Eastern Romans head to head. The Eastern Romans were FAR better equipped, organized and used to up close pitched battles. Doukas is one the worst betrayers of all time.

Brilliant 👏

In general, how the war takes place seems correct, but there are also mistakes. There are errors, especially regarding numbers. It is estimated that the number of the Byzantine army was around 60-80 thousand. Turks have a maximum of 20-25 thousand. It is true that Diogenes divided his army into two. Because he is very confident in his numerical superiority. On the battlefield, the number of the Byzantine army is 2-3 times that of the Turks. At the end of the war, Alp Arslan certainly does not treat Diogenes badly. It is said that they both respect each other very much. Alparslan even allows Diogenes to return to Byzantium. But the Byzantines blinded Diogenes and left him to die.

It would have been better to release this video tomorrow because tomorrow is the 100th anniversary of the Republic of Turkey.

@syedasharimam

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you

@SirThinksalot2023

6 ай бұрын

Gross

@user-eg2po8kh2b

6 ай бұрын

Neither republic, nor Turkey 🦃

@Iamnotracistlmao

6 ай бұрын

@@user-eg2po8kh2b good one lmao

Surviving for 1100 years while being surrounded by enemies is pretty impressive!